From Poverty to Passive Millions ft. Doran Andry | Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "From Poverty to Passive Millions ft. Doran Andry"

Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby
Host: Joseph Shalaby | Guest: Doran Andry
Date: September 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this inspiring episode, Joseph Shalaby sits down with entrepreneur and philanthropist Doran Andry to discuss his journey from growing up in poverty to building passive multimillion-dollar income streams. Doran opens up about the essential roles of mentorship, mindset, visualization, and resilience—not just in achieving wealth, but in designing a fulfilling and impactful life. The conversation is rich in practical advice, memorable stories, and actionable steps for entrepreneurs, dreamers, and anyone seeking personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power of Morning Routine & Mindset

• Doran’s Morning Ritual (00:41–02:41)
  • Wakes between 5:30–6am; starts by hydrating (“40 oz of water with vitamins and BCAAs”).
  • Gratitude practice: Shares three things he’s grateful for out loud (his learning style is auditory).
  • Affirms his values using a lengthy self-recorded YouTube audio of affirmations, focusing on being more than having.
  • Meditation and gym or “biohacking therapies” round out the routine.
• Quote:

  “Master the morning, master the world.” — Doran Andry (00:44)

• Affirmation Focus:

  “Work harder on yourself than you do on your business and your success will just be a byproduct of it.” — Jim Rohn, as relayed by Doran (03:07)

2. From Humble Beginnings to First Big Success

• Early Life & Influences (04:03–06:53)
  • Grew up “six kids in a one-bedroom apartment… very poor in Los Angeles” (04:03).
  • Father exposed them to experiences beyond their economic class; instilled belief and imagination.
  • Had early exposure to entrepreneurship within the family.
  • Always “dressed for success,” wearing suits as a young entrepreneur.
• Pivotal Shift:
  • Meeting a mentor changed his psychological paradigm:

    “The value of mentors… he said, ‘I'll teach you in 3–4 years how to walk away and build a passive income that'll pay you millions for the rest of your life.’” (07:13)

  • Executed on his mentor’s advice, leading to making $1 million in passive income by age 30 (08:58).

3. The Importance of Mentorship & Execution

• Mentorship Mindset (07:01–10:27)
  • Cited Robert Kiyosaki and Jim Rohn on risk, learning, and personal growth.
  • Emphasized:

    “Most people want to have success, but they don’t want to do more, and the most important is they don't want to be more.” (09:08)

  • Needed to seek even “bigger mentors” as his earnings outpaced his personal growth.
• Actionable Note:
  • Success often comes before full understanding:

    “I didn’t even understand how I was doing it… but I had a mentor and I executed the plan.” (20:33)

4. Peak Performance, Biohacking & the Power of State

• Preparation & “Triggering Peak State” (12:20–14:48)
  • Always preps physically and mentally before meetings or speeches, using “power moves” and affirmations.
  • Anchors psychology with visualization (e.g., “roots from my legs going into the earth”).

  • “The fastest way to change your state of mind is to change your physiology.” (13:32)

  • Biohacking isn’t just for fitness (“not just for abs”), but for cognitive and emotional energy (11:58).

5. Resilience, Reframing Failure, and Designing Your Life

• On Failure & Resilience (16:59–18:55)
  • First business failed at 22, reframed as “investment into my future.”

  • “Most people spend more time planning their vacation than their life—what a tragedy.” (17:45)

• Manifestation and Fulfillment
  • Writing down goals is only partial; emotional attachment to the outcome is essential (26:57–30:20).

    “If you can dream it, visualize it, and get emotionally attached, you can be and do and have everything that's possible. But you must be fulfilled inside.” (27:14)

  • “Emotion is the root of motion.” (30:20)
• Managing State of Mind:
  • Three keys: Change your physiology, change your words, and change what you visualize (32:48–36:06).

    “When you’re in a good state of mind, you do good things.” (31:09)

  • Practical steps: Sit/stand tall, use empowering self-talk, visualize positive outcomes.

6. Philanthropy & Global Impact

• Personal Impact: Building Schools, Orphanages (36:13–39:22)
  • Inspired by a benevolent family ethos; built a modern school in Thailand bearing his name.
  • Enjoys supporting orphanages worldwide—focuses on helping kids discover opportunity, not victimhood.

    “Education is the way up and out of poverty.” (36:13)

7. Goals, Legacy, and Authentic Living

• Personal Goals (39:31–41:32)
  • Seeks to attract a life partner to share his life.
  • Business goal: Join the billionaires club.
  • Health goal: Live a “fulfilled, healthy life” to 110–120 years.
• Authenticity in a Social Media Age
  • Emphasizes importance of being “your true and authentic self.”
  • Warns against losing ourselves to curated social media narratives:

    "Best person we can be... is to be our true and authentic self." (41:51)

8. Harnessing the Power of Imagination

• Childhood Resilience vs. Adult Realism
  • Children manifest through relentless imagination; adults lose this to reality and setbacks.

  • “Use your imagination because it is the most powerful tool we possess.” (42:39)

• Relentless Vision
  • Draws parallel to Elon Musk’s persistence with SpaceX.
  • Encourages listeners:

    “Get a vision, get emotionally attached, get hyper-focused, and just be relentless.” (46:34)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Health vs. Wealth:

  “An unhealthy man has one desire. A healthy man has many, many dreams.” — Doran Andry (11:17)

• On Self-Improvement:

  “Work harder on yourself than you do on your business and your success will just be a byproduct of it.” — Jim Rohn, relayed by Doran (03:07)

• On Framing Failure:

  “We have a chance to reframe... different types of life events. I saw that as an investment into my future.” (17:31)

• On Manifestation:

  “If you can dream it, and you get emotionally attached to it, you can be, do, and have all that's possible.” (27:14) “Emotion is the root of motion.” (30:20)

• On Leadership and Teamwork:

  “Iron sharpens iron. That's how we make the world a better place.” (15:48)

• On Fulfillment:

  “If you're having what people see as success, but inside you're not fulfilled, I consider you a failure.” (27:30)

• On Authenticity:

  “Best person we can be... is to be our true and authentic self.” (41:51)

• On Mentorship & Success:

  “People who are successful, we are more similar than we are different.” (20:33)

• On Legacy:

  "Education is the way up and out of poverty." (36:13)

• Closing Reflection:

  “Well done, my good and faithful servant. You were a good man.” — Doran on his vision for the afterlife (47:11)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Morning routine & mind mastery: 00:41–03:30
• Early life & family influences: 04:03–06:53
• Mentorship & psychological shifts: 07:01–10:27
• Peak performance & mental prep: 12:10–14:48
• Failures, reframing, and resilience: 16:59–18:55
• Manifestation & life design: 26:54–32:44
• Managing state of mind, practical steps: 32:48–36:06
• Philanthropy & building schools: 36:13–39:22
• Personal, family, business goals: 39:31–41:32
• Authenticity, leadership in social media: 41:51–42:39
• Imagination, lessons from children and Elon Musk: 42:39–46:34
• Legacy & spiritual reflection: 47:07–47:39

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a masterclass in entrepreneurial mindset, highlighting how grit, gratitude, imagination, mentors, and managing your state can propel anyone from humble beginnings to extraordinary achievement. Doran’s story and strategies are not just motivational—they’re actionable, emphasizing fulfillment and authenticity over merely material success. For deeper wisdom, refer to the timestamps above, or follow Doran on Instagram at @DoranAndry for continued insights.

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Transcript

[A]

I was making a million dollars in a business that I had started just two years prior. And what do you know in two years? How long you been in your business, Joe? Okay, what do you know in two years? Not much. Not much. But I was already making a million dollars of passive income. And the reason is because I had a mentor and I executed the plan.

[B]

Welcome to another episode of Coffee.

[A]

Yes, Joe, thank you. I'm excited to be here.

[B]

Yeah. So you know, Doran, as soon as I met you, I knew like, you know, we were, we were gonna hit it off. You're like already like an older brother to me, so I appreciate you coming on the show. I like to ask everybody this, and this is going to be something totally applicable to you because you really embrace this is. What is your morning routine?

[A]

Ah, that's a great question. Yes. You know, my brother said this to me. Master the morning, master the world. So I get up early, somewhere between 5:36 o', clock, so not too early. As soon as I get out of bed, I have a 40 ounce bottle of water with all kind of stuff in it from vitamin C, BCAAs, glutamine. I down that because we lose about a liter of water between the time we go to the bathroom in the night and we're sweating. So I hydrate right away. Then I go to three things that I'm grateful for. I go through my affirmations and then I meditate and then from there I start. I want to call it my biohacking therapies or I'm in the gym. So that's basically how I start every single morning, like clockwork.

[B]

Do you do the gratitude journal you write down?

[A]

No, I do it audibly. Yeah, because I'm my learning modality. So we have three learning modalities, right? Visual, auditory, kinesthetic. Mine is audio. So I sit down with myself and I verbalize it. And I do with my kids as well too. What are they grateful for?

[B]

Nice.

[A]

It's a great way to start, man. It changes your whole biochemistry. Truly. It does.

[B]

It does. I did mine. I don't get to do it every day, but I write it down as a gratitude journal. It's like, what are the three things you're grateful for? What are three things that would make today great? And your affirmation. What was your three for the day?

[A]

My daughter, my seven year old daughter, my kids and my lifestyle.

[B]

Nice. And then what was your affirmation?

[A]

My affirmations. I go through like an hour, believe it or not, I have a YouTube audio about who I am, what I am, forgiving myself, being the best person I can, Good energy, being authentic, all these different things. And I go through that and it's an hour. And I'll either do somewhere between 15 minutes of it, all the way to an hour, depending on my time schedule.

[B]

Just like some rerecord.

[A]

It's a. Yeah, it's. It's. I'm auditory, so I don't actually watch it, but I'm listening to it and then I'm verbalizing it. Yes, I'm listening to it.

[B]

I gotta get that affirmation.

[A]

Yeah, I'll get it to you. Can I tell you what, it's super powerful and it really does change your biochemistry. Yeah.

[B]

Put in the show notes for people to, you know.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Share it. Just like affirmations are important.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And this one, can I tell you what? And a lot of people do affirmations about wealth. And this has a small component of that, but it's more about who I'm being versus what I'm achieving. Because interesting note is I had the good fortune to work with Jim Rohn. I don't know if you or your audience know about Jim Rohn. And I had a very, very close relationship with him and he was an extraordinary mentor. And he always said to me, work harder on yourself than you do on your business and your success will just be a byproduct of it. So I've really lived that for the past 30 years. Yeah.

[B]

And it shows. You know, it shows. You said a quote before we started the show today. You become a better man. What was it? You become the best man. What was the quote?

[A]

I know. What was the quote?

[B]

I know so many quotes. And I'm like, we gotta share that with the audience.

[A]

I know. What was the quote we were talking about?

[B]

Was it.

[A]

Shoot, I forgot. I forgot what it was. It'll come to me, though. Yeah.

[B]

Well, let's go back. Let's take it back to what was life like before the billions of dollars and the global stages, when it was just you and a dream and a spare bedroom.

[A]

You know, that's a great question. So I grew up with six kids in a one bedroom apartment. Okay. Very poor in Los Angeles, so not in some third world country, which kind.

[B]

Of was a third world country.

[A]

And my father, who was a role model, not a mentor, but was a role model to me, and he had a tremendous, relentless belief in his kids. And my father exposed us to a lot of different places that economically we really shouldn't be A part of, but you know, one of my other great mentors, Joseph McClendon and Tony Robbins, they said, you know, once your mind expanded, it could never go back to its original size. So my father exposed us as kids to a lot of different things that we really, based on our economic situation, shouldn't have been exposed to, but it really expanded my imagination. So I grew up like in high school when everyone was wearing jeans. I wore slacks and dress shoes, never wore jeans, never wore tennis shoes. And I was just, I was a different kid. I was an athlete. I wasn't the very best. So I'm thankful because I didn't peak too early. But I played first string sports and learned the value of having a coach, of having team about camaraderie and, and collective winning. And so the reason why I say that is I grew up in their early years fantasizing and dreaming about wanting to have financial freedom and wealth. And so that has been in my DNA from the beginning. My father was entrepreneur. I had some uncles and aunties that were entrepreneurs. My grandfather was an entrepreneur. So it was kind of more or less in my DNA because I was surrounded by that. And so since I was, I started my first business when I was 22 years old and I've only eat what you kill. Okay. Since I was 22, so I just knew that I was wired. I used to wear double breasted jackets with ascots. When I was like 22, 23 years old, I would go down to downtown LA and buy a suit for 200 bucks that was like a European suit that was really fitted. So I always dress really clean, classic. And you know, like a lot of people dress for success. So even in my line of business as an entrepreneur, I wore a suit every single day. My, my majority of my career. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You're like, you'll, you refuse to everywhere.

[A]

Yeah, no, but I'm living on the beach and you know, I'm, I'm, I'm retired now. So it's a different, it's a different lifestyle. But at the time, man, I was locked in and loaded and just wired to have success. Yeah.

[B]

Now what was the first moment you felt the tide shift, that maybe this, this wild vision that you had of being an entrepreneur could actually work?

[A]

Yeah, I would say that it was twofold. One is one of the messages I want to share with the audience is the value of mentors. Because I found a guy who said, listen, I'll teach you in three to four years how to walk away and build a passive income. That'll pay you millions for the rest of your life. And at first I was like, that sounds too good to be true. And it's so interesting. One of my mentors said, you know, the people who think things are too good to be true are always broke. And Robert Kiyosaki said in his book, you know, I've met many, many poor men who've never lost a penny, but I have never met a rich man who hasn't lost a dime. And so I learned that when you draw a line in the sand and you're looking at opportunities to cross that line, cross that threshold, because the people who stay on this side of the metaphoric line, they never pursue something different. So they end up with the same life year after year after year, because they're not taking that step of wanting to really achieve that success that they many times have been dreaming about or have been exposed to. So when I met my first mentor, it was, I had to change that paradigm and thought, okay, if I've got somebody who's willing to teach me and he's already doing it, and he's willing to mentor me and take me under his wing, I'd be willing to do whatever it took as long as they didn't ask me to compromise my morals or my ethics, I would do whatever he says to be able to build a business in three to four years and walk away with the passive income for the rest of my life. So that changed. I had a psychological shift, okay. And then when he started to mentor me and by the time I started my first or this, this business, my first successful, bigger successful business, because I had early success, but by the time I was 30, I was making a million dollars of passive income. And that was 30 years ago. So it was a lot more money back then.

[B]

Yeah, bucks.

[A]

And it wasn't like, oh, I have assets of a million, but I have debt of 800,000, so I'm really got net worth of 200k, right? I had a million dollar passive income and I was making more money then I could spend. But one of the critical things for me is Jim Rohn taught me that it's about being, doing and having. So a lot of people want to have success, but they don't want to do more. And the most important is they don't want to be more. And so I was taught from an early age, you got to become more, be more, do more, have more. And so when I made that shift, I started having success early. And then it's so interesting that, you know, growing up In Los Angeles, we have a lot of athletes here. We have a lot of business success, real estate success. You know, you have Hollywood and you see these people who go from rags to riches to rags again because they didn't grow as a man or as a person. So it was really, really strongly encouraged for me to grow as a person. So I realized by the time I was 30, making so much money, that I was. My income was growing faster than I was as a man. And I said, you know what, I got to get a bigger mentor. And that's actually when I met Tony Robbins and went to my first Tony Robbins event, which was life changing. He really is a savant. He's extraordinary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I've had the good fortune to, to work with his teachings for almost 30 years.

[B]

You still talk to him? You still work with him?

[A]

I still work with him. I don't talk to him on a regular basis because I'm more or less retired. But it's so interesting. He's got an event coming up in two weeks in la, and I was actually going to go because, you know, it's, it's, it's about sharpening your sword and I'm still slaying the dragon and enjoy that part of chasing success in business. Although I don't go to a job every day.

[B]

But you still work, you still busy?

[A]

Yeah, I stay busy. Yeah. Plus I got six kids, man. I tell you, it's, it's, it's such a blessing to have that many kids. You know, it's part of my legacy. We're going to talk a little bit about that, but it sure is a blessing.

[B]

I remembered what the quote was kind of about. We were talking about health and it's the importance of a healthy. You were saying a man that's healthy.

[A]

Oh, yes. Okay, I got the quote. What I said was that, you know, because there's a lot of people out there, I know a lot of wealthy people, and they've squandered their health. And what I said was, an unhealthy man has one desire. A healthy man has many, many dreams.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So that's, that's what it was. He's got one dream when you're unhealthy, that's stay alive, man. You know, and a healthy man's got many dreams. And when I say man, I just want to be politically correct. It's human versus just the gender of a man. So men and women.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Unhealthy. An unhealthy human has one dream. A healthy human has yes, exactly. I love that quote. I love that quote. And it just makes a lot of sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because, you know, if we're in the peak performance, mental state, physical state, and a lot of the, you know, the biohacking now isn't just physical state. It's a lot of biohacking your brain.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You know, like, all the. The things that are being released just, you know, for cognitive function, not just, you know, oh, I'm gonna. I want abs.

[A]

Yeah. You know, it's so interesting because when I walked into the studio today and I said to your team, I'm ready, because I know show up ready so I don't have to get ready. The only thing I do is I prep myself. And so what I did is I said, listen, I need just a few minutes to prep myself. And whether I'm going in to a meeting of two people, five people, or 40,000 people, I prep myself so that when I show up, I'm showing up and I'm ready, and I'm mentally. It's a mental preparation. And what I do is, you know, for example, if we're in love and we have a piece of music that triggers us, and we go, oh, we remember that when we were there and the music came on, or we'll go home. Not everybody, but some people have that concept of they go home, they. They smell something, which is a trigger of Mom's cooking or Dad's cooking. So we have different triggers. You know, some of them are healthy, and some of them are unhealthy triggers. But so what I do is I've prepared myself, okay. And I trigger myself so that by the time I'm showing up today, guess what? I'm in peak state, baby, ready to roll.

[B]

So what do you do to trigger yourself?

[A]

I talk about my objective. Okay. Who I am, the message, the impact. And I verbalize it. Yeah. And then I do something called a power move, because the fastest way to change your state of mind is to change your physiology. People don't realize that. Change your physiology, number one. Number two is change your words, because your words are the light into your feet. So your words are very powerful. Like, I'm looking at Big Joe right now. His lips aren't moving, but I know he's having a conversation in that head, and that's the person we listen to the most, which is ourself. So we have to be very mindful of the conversation that we're having with ourself. And so when I come and I'm about to do something like This. I use words that are going to empower me and make me who I am, which is a man of impact and transformation. And then I visualize it. I visualize what's going to happen, how it's going to impact people. So then I'm at peak state, but, you know, you don't want to show up like a crazy man. And so at the end, what I do is I center myself, and I visualize roots coming from my. The tree trunks of my legs going all the way down into the universe of the world, of the earth, and I just show up and I'm peaceful, But under that peace is a lot of power, and it's controlled and directed power. And so that's how I manage my state before I show up.

[B]

Dude, that's crazy. Where can I learn that process? I'm about to do, like, three speaking engagements. I'd love to be rooted like that.

[A]

Oh, man. Yeah, it's amazing. But. But you got to remember, I've been doing this for. I mean, this is my. Actually to be totally trans. It's my first podcast.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I've been doing this dynamic for a very long time. So I would say that.

[B]

But you've been doing it on global stages.

[A]

All over the world, man.

[B]

Yeah, all over the world. Like, now the world has changed. The world is now here.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I know.

[B]

You know, the world is now in this room, and you don't have to be. So it's still the same.

[A]

The construct is the same. The medium is different.

[B]

Yeah, the construct is the same. So you still have to bring that same level of, you know, mental refinement, that same level of being grounded, that same, you know, And I. And I'm always looking to get better. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sharpening my sword is, like, my goal every day. I know that I'm a man that's in perpetual growth mode, and I know that I'm a man that's really, like, failing all the time. So, you know, I'm always trying to get better.

[A]

Oh, yeah, man, this is great. This is what I call iron. Sharpening iron.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right? We take your. Your experience, your talent, your skill. I. I throw mine into the pot, and it's iron sharpening iron, man. And that's how we can make the world a better place.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's one of the biggest things. And I say this all the time on my podcast. Like, if nobody's listening to this podcast and I. Nobody has benefited. Like, I know that I benefited.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

From the guests that I get to pick I get to hand select my guests and they're all people like I want. I've been wanting to meet you and sit down and have this conversation with you. It's like there's no better opportunity to do. This is a one on one date, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know that with a high, you know, profile figure in society that you. I get free mentorship for now. It's like sitting with Jim Rome for now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How long can.

[A]

And thank you for the invitation. I'm very grateful.

[B]

Yeah. So. So I'm. I'm going to be impacted by this. I hope the audience is. And we're going to continue to like, impact others through this because we're going to do tons of short clips and such to help others. So let me, let me, let's dive into your success because it came fast. But what was the one. What was the. One of the first major failures you had to survive on the climb up? Like one of the.

[A]

Yeah, I can tell you. So I mentioned that When I was 22, I started my first business and by the time six months ended, I failed miserably. Failed miserably. And then I started my second business and I had moderate success, I would say. But the first one, you know, we call it framing. Okay. So you can take a picture and put a chrome frame around it or put a black frame around it or gothic frame, and it changes what you see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so one of the things that I learned from my great mentors is that we have a chance to reframe or frame different type of life events. And so I saw that as an investment into my future. Okay. Versus necessarily a failure. To me, I didn't get my objective, but what I did do is I re. Honed my desire of the type of lifestyle that I wanted. And I learned from an early age, and Jim taught me this. You got to design your life. And most people, Joe, they spend more time planning their vacation than they do their life. And what a tragedy that is. And so I had an opportunity to sit with myself and say, do I really want to have success? Do I really want to have that lifestyle? Do I really want to live on the ocean? Do I really want multiple houses? Do I really want to travel the world? Do I really want to leave a legacy for my children? Do I really want to become a man of impact and transformation? And it was a resounding yes. So, you know, where focus goes, energy flows, and when you start asking those kind of questions and if you ask more powerful, important questions or better questions. So to Speak. You're going to get better answers. And so I sat with myself and I went through this whole drill, and it was a resounding yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Then it's a matter of, okay, what am I going to do, how I'm going to do it, where I'm going to do it? And I started my second business, and then I started to have success there as well.

[B]

And.

[A]

And it was fascinating. So, 22. I failed misery in my first business. Yeah, that was my first time. And so I had to reinvent, recreate myself. Yeah.

[B]

What do you think on the way up? Like, what was your, you know, your greatest successful business?

[A]

So I was on the distribution side of Nutraceuticals, and I did it on a global basis, was able to do billions of dollars in sales. That was my. From operating a business. That was my greatest success. I walked away from that and retired. One of my objectives was to retire young and retire wealthy and financially free. And I walked away at 47 and said, and I have to tell you, I worked like a dog. I'm talking about a dog. Some people go, oh, you know, you get lucky. And I'd say I was fortunate to meet some great mentors, but, you know, you can have a mentor, but then you got to execute, right? So I knew the value from playing sports of having a coach or a mentor. And, man, I held onto that with my dear life, and it had a profound impact on the trajectory because, you know, as one of my great mentors said, is success leaves clues. You know, and so I saw all these different clues, and then it was a matter of me not even necessarily understanding it, because, can I tell you, I was making a million dollars in a business that I had started just two years prior. And what do you know in two years? How long you been in your business, Joe?

[B]

20 years.

[A]

Okay, what do you know in two years'?

[B]

Not much.

[A]

Not much. But I was already making a million dollars of passive income. And the reason is because I had a mentor and I executed the plan. I didn't even understand how I was doing it. He was like, okay, you know how, like, when you have kids and there's color by numbers, and as adults, we can see it's a giraffe, the kids can't see. We just want them to go from 1 to 2 to 3. And that was the beginning of my success. That's why I'm excited to be here with your listeners. They don't have to understand everything. But if you find a mentor or you use guys like Joe and the rest of your guests, okay. As mentors or people inspire you and they're going to give you a roadmap. Because people who are successful, we are more similar than we are different. Okay. Now there's the Elon Musk of the world, which are the anomalies and the savants. Okay. And they're just at a whole different level. But I'm just about the general population that are in the 1%. We're more successful. I mean, we're more similar than we are different. So what I want to encourage your, your listening audience to do is to be strong on the execution. And you won't have to understand it all because it just took time. It was four or five years before I really started to understand why I was successful. But I was already making millions of dollars by that time. Can you imagine? Yeah, it was exciting.

[B]

You know, you said something profound like, I never really thought of this, but this is why success kind of attracts success. And it's like we are so similar because we're kind of going through the same struggles. Mm. Know. And you and I have similar struggles, similar fashion, similar interests. You know, we met at. Our kids met at jiu Jitsu.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually start. Started doing some jiu jitsu myself with the kids and you know, you know, many of the same pathways. Right. So we. But I find that because I start to attend masterminds and I'll introduce you to some of the groups. But like a lot of us are very similar going through the same struggles.

[A]

You know why that is? It's very simple. People like people like themselves or people that they want to be like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so it's. We, we have a certain thought process which without being too woo woo, you know, I'm a fond believer in Einstein and everything is energy. So our thoughts, our words. I saw that our energy and energy create a vibration and like attracts like. And so it's. It's no, you know, something so hard to digest where we go. Why is that? It doesn't make sense. But it really does make sense because people like, people like themselves or people they want to be like. Because our energetic vibration is more similar than different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That our energetic vibration is on the same wavelength.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

So it's. And there's not a lot of people like us, you know.

[A]

No, we're the few, man.

[B]

Yeah, there's not a lot of them. Yeah, they exist and, you know, they find each other. But there's. It's not like you walk out this room that we got you know, 80 people on staff here and this, you know, the frequency is not the same, you know, like with you and I and, you know, you'll meet my business partners kind of similar frequency is a similar frequency as well. But that it's, it's not a common trait.

[A]

Yeah. And I think part of that is, you know, it's amazing because America is the greatest country without being too ideology driven about how great America is. But I mean, if you think about it, China and Japan, which are the second and third largest economies in the world, have been. China's been almost 3500 years, Japan's 2800 years in America, which is the biggest economy in the world. We're 250 years old, man. So that's because we think different. But part of the challenge is that also I think our academic system perpetuates mediocrity. And when you're, when you grow up in that environment of mediocrity, that's just how you think. And it is a few people who got exposed to and really started to believe the opportunity where they can truly become whatever they imagine, you know, and as my mentor said, your imagination is the greatest tool you possess.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And unfortunately a lot of people don't use it. They don't, you know. No, they don't.

[B]

And you know, one of the things, for me, it's like I've just been a dreamer my whole life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just a dreamer. Since I was a kid, people thought I was crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Still think I'm crazy.

[A]

I know. I know. And I'm, I'm exactly the same. I've been a dreamer my whole life, you know, and still am. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So it's, it's funny that, you know, here we are still dreaming. Like, I didn't expect the podcast to be big. I didn't expect this company this big. I didn't expect to be this influencer. I didn't expect to be this best selling author. I didn't expect to be speaking on stages. And none of this was like, I just dreamt it all.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like manifestation.

[A]

You know, it's so interesting. I had a. I had the good fortune to, to build a castle, so to speak, in Southern California. And I was sitting with a senior VP of a multi billion dollar national company. And we were over. We were sitting in the backyard overlooking the golf course and the ocean and the harbor. And he goes, he was looking at this place, it was 18,000 square feet. And he goes, God, I bet you never imagined this. And then he paused and I Went, are you serious? And he goes, I cannot believe I made such a faux pas. Because I said to him, the reason why I'm here is because I'm a dreamer. And this was my imagination, you know, because I was dreaming about this place and about this lifestyle. And I'm an ocean sign, so I was always drawn to the water. And so I had the good fortune to build a house overlooking the ocean. And back to your point, it was all about the dream to seeing what was possible, you know, before it was possible. And it just. We got to manifest that in our mind. I'm an absolute manifester. And can I tell you what I've been manifesting my whole life?

[B]

You've designed your life.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Explain to us the process of designing your life.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Designed pretty much a perfect life that, you know. And we talked about this earlier, like, yeah, we've had some hurdles. There's only one real hiccup, you know? Know.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

It's like pretty perfect, you know, but it. It's all good. Yeah, like, it's all good.

[A]

To oversimplify, it's really just about fantasizing and dreaming about. And I want to say this. I. I've. I've evolved to, you know, I live an extraordinary quality of life, there's no doubt about that. But I've. I've evolved to mastering the art. And. And for those of you who are listening, and you're listening intently, you wanna write this down, is the art of living a fulfilled life. So manifestation, more or less, is that if you could dream it, if you can visualize it, and you get emotionally attached to that, you can be and do and have everything that's possible. The difference is there's a lot of people who have manifested things in their life, but the component, Joe, that they forgot is to be fulfilled. And if you're having what people on the outside are looking at, like, success, but you're inside not fulfilled, then I consider you a failure. Okay? So going back to your question about manifestation is. It's a couple things. First of all, people who write things down, there's no secret there. Most people who are successful, they write it down. Okay? So writing down your goals, your dreams, your desires, anything and everything that you can possibly imagine, Okay? A lot of people do that, okay? And when I say a lot, I'm talking about a lot of the 2% or the 10% people in the world, okay? The thing that people miss, what they don't do is they don't get emotionally. And I want you guys to write this down. They don't get emotionally attached, okay, to that goal. Dream and desire. What I mean by that is someone goes, okay, I want to buy a home. That's the American dream, okay? People want to buy a home. That's a great objective, it's a great goal. The thing that they need to do beyond that is, how is it going to make me feel okay to be a homeowner? How's it going to make me feel to know that, you know, I own a piece of the American dream, which is real estate homeownership? How does it feel that that's going to be my garden or my grass or that's going to be my man cave, or that's going to be for a woman, my beautiful closet or the area for my kids to play and. Or a study or, you know, entertainment room or like when I built my house and I had a. I had sauna and I had a movie theater, I had a wine cellar and I had all these things, and I had a urinal because I'm a dude and I had three sons, you know, I had a urinal in my house. You know, we go to the bathroom, right? So how's it going to make me feel, you know, and to get really, really emotionally attached to the feeling, not just the accomplishment. Because when you. When you get emotionally attached to the feeling, it's called emotion. The root word of emotion is motion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because here's the thing that people understand. So I'm going to ask you a couple questions, okay, Joe, and your listening audience. No trick questions. Just answer first thing off the. As you think of, okay, you feel hungry, what do you do? Joe?

[B]

Eat.

[A]

Okay, you feel like going to the gym, what do you do? Work out, you feel like going for a run, what do you do? You feel like sleeping, what do you do? Okay, so what comes first, the feeling or the action? Remember, you feel hungry, then you eat. You feel like running, so you run. You feel like sleeping, so you sleep. So what? And this is the thing people miss. So what comes first is the feeling.

[B]

Yeah, and I just slipped past.

[A]

No, I know. It's okay. It's very common. So it's the feeling, and then based on how you feel, then you do something, you do the action, and then based on your action, you get a result. The result gives you a quality of life. So what people don't realize is probably the most important message that I can give your listening audience today is a couple things, but one of the most important things I would say is learn the art of Managing your state of mind. Because when you're in a good state of mind, you do good things. When you feel shitty, you feel terrible, you feel tired, or you feel anxious, or you feel overwhelmed, think about the decisions that you're making in those states. But when you're feeling in your peak state, you're feeling energetic, you're feeling grateful, you're feeling thankful, think about the decisions that you make and the actions you take, and then the results. People manage their money, they manage their time, they manage their household. But the one most important thing that they don't manage is they don't manage their state of mind. And what's been magnified so much so is post pandemic that you're seeing all these people at different levels, from Olympic athletes to regular everyday joes who have mental health issues, because they're not managing their state of mind. They're a product of their environment. Instead of impacting their environment, they're letting their environment impact them. So like when I, when I did my pre warm up, as we talked about earlier, before I came to the mic, that's all about managing my state of mind. So that when I'm having conversations with you and with your listening audience, man, I am on it. And so I want to encourage your listeners to learn the art of managing your state of mind.

[B]

What are three practical steps that you can implement to manage your state of mind?

[A]

Okay, so that's a great question. So number one is you can manage your state of mind by choosing so three things that manages your state. Okay? And for you guys, again, I would encourage you to write it down. Number one is your physiology. So think about this. If you're sitting down and you're slumped over, okay? And you're breathing heavy, okay, Your neck is dropped, what's your feeling?

[B]

Tired.

[A]

Tired, Lethargic, Groggy. Okay? The difference is imagine if you're standing up straight, right? You got your chest out, you're taking a deep breath, you're smiling, okay? Your arms are back, your shoulders are up, and guess what you're feeling like I'm confident. Okay. And so the first thing that you can do is to manage your state is to change your physiology. It's always your physiology first. For example, people are sick, you're in bed for two or three days, they go, you know what? I'm just tired of being in bed. I'm gonna finally go take a shower. They go, take a shower. And what happens? They're like, oh, shit, I feel better. The sickness hasn't changed. But what's changed is their physiology, okay? If you're a woman and you're walking into a room and you know there's 20 guys in that room and you know that all eyes on you. Think about how you're going to walk, okay? You're not going to walk slutch, slop, I mean, slouched over. You're going to walk in there confident, projecting, you know, your beauty, whether it's inside or outside, it's all about your physiology, okay? If you look at, like, for example, Olympians who are going to do track and field, what do they do? They just don't show up and just do a high jump, man. They're visualizing, they're managing their state, right? They're having words like, I've done this. I'm visualizing, I'm doing it. So the first thing you do to manage your state is to manage your physiology. It's the thing that happens the quickest. The second thing is you got to pay attention to your words, okay? Like, my words are, I'm a man of impact, okay? In transformation. I'm a servant leader, okay? So I know that I can impact and inspire and activate people. So these are all things when I'm managing my state, okay? I think about, I'm wealthy, I'm happy, I'm grateful. And when you put, when you use these words, they change yourself biochemically. People don't realize you literally can change your chemistry by changing your words. Because everything is energy and we're impacting ourselves on a cellular level. And then the third thing to manage your state is what you visualize. You see, people go, you know, I just can't. I just can't imagine me ever having success like that. Why would I invest in that? Why would I do that business? What if I do that business and I don't make money? Or they go, what if I do that business and then I make more money, but then I got to pay more taxes? I mean, how insane is that? Listen, I'd rather pay more taxes because I'm making more money than living just over broke, right? So what you visualize the words that you tell yourself and your physiology all manage your state of mind. And then there you manage your state. You're in a much better place. You're in a grateful place, and you make better decisions. Better decisions, better action, better results, better quality of life.

[B]

That's great, great feedback. I got a couple last questions for you, okay? Now, philanthropy is a big part of your life.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What's the personal story behind the Schools you build.

[A]

Mmm. So I grew up in a very benevolent family. And my grandmother, my father's side, was the impetus of that. And we helped everybody, and everybody was welcome. My grandmother, she would cook, and she's from the south, Louisiana, in New Orleans, and she would cook in these big vats. And we had friends and family, family that thought were family that end up as we got older, not. And so we just learned to help people. I grew up with two cousins, two first cousins that were adopted who also adopted. I adopted a child as well because I wanted to help. And so, you know, when you think about these institutions, Harvard, Yale, Brown or these big companies, it started with an idea or a concept. And so as I started to grow my wealth, one of the things I wanted to do is my mission in life, which I would encourage people to sit down and write, is to be a man of impact and transformation. So I believe that education is the way up and out of poverty. And so I had the good fortune to be traveling the world and saw there was an opportunity to build an institution. And so I said, okay, I'm going to. I'm going to start and build my first school. And so I did that. And it bears my name. Yeah. So I'm very, very grateful. It's in Thailand. Yeah, yeah. It was just an amazing experience to be able to do that. I built something really unique, something special, very modern. The technology, the architecture is all modern. So that I said, when these kids go to school there, excuse me, I want them to think I have a unique opportunity that's different than all these other schools that are very Thai traditional architecture and stuff like that. So I decided to pull the trigger. And what's great is the, The. The. The previous king of Thailand was the longest reigning king in the world, 50 years. And he was beloved by his people. His son now is the king and he's. He's a bit of a playboy and a whole different bag of tricks. But anyways, so he has daughters who were responsible for perpetuating their wealth and their legacy. And so ironically, what had happened is I built a school, and then the Princess of Thailand got wind of it. They bought some more land, and they started to build other structures around the school. So what started as my little dream has now expanded. And I feel very grateful that I had an opportunity to do that. And so I do that. And one of my other things I love to do is whenever I travel, I find the orphanages because, you know, as adults, we got choices. But as kids, many of them are in These orphanages because they didn't have a choice. And so I go to the orphanages and I bring them what they need, and I have a chance to do something like this, but on a very elementary level to impact these kids, to try to change the way they think instead of being a victim as an opportunity. And I love to. I love to do things like that and impact kids who are marginalized.

[B]

That's beautiful. Yeah, that's beautiful. Now I want to ask you, what's a personal goal that you have for yourself? Family goal you have for your family and a business goal.

[A]

Okay, so personal goal. My personal goal is I'm single. Okay. And my personal goal is to. And I've already done it in my mind's eye, because it's my destiny is to attract my person. Yeah, don't chase, but just attract. And that's a personal objective that I have because I really do have a magnificent life on so many different levels. And I'm single. And I really want to share that with somebody because I'm a bit of a romanticist person. And I love, love, man. I love to be in love. I love the masculine and feminine energy. And, you know, society's trying to homogenize us, but it's the polarity between masculine energy and female energy that I think is just beautifully extraordinary. And so that I would say on a personal level, on a business level is I really believe that I can take my net worth up to a billion dollars. Yeah, I'm very confident I can do that. You know, there's less than 3,000 of those people in the world who've achieved that. But I'm confident between now and the time that I pass away that I can hit that. So that would be my. My business goal. And then on a personal goal is, like we talked about, I'm a biohacker. And with all the technology that we have and supplements and the ability to have access to all these different technologies from here and around the world that are more available where before it was only, like medical grade things that hospitals or institutions or have access to. Yeah, yeah. And, and, and as. As people mass produce these things, they're becoming more economically available.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm fortunate because I have resources, so I want to. I want to perpetuate my life. And I. I believe that I can hit 110, 120 years old. So that would be a.

[B]

Not just lifespan, health, but health.

[A]

Yes, yes. Living a healthy quality of life.

[B]

You 110 and still hit the gym.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So some people think that's crazy, but.

[B]

You know, you'll still be dating 60 year olds.

[A]

Keep the secret. I know we could both connect to that, though. But, you know, in fairness, we're wired that way. Yeah. People don't realize that. Listen, you could change us, try to change us as much as you can, but the best person that we can be, and I want to encourage your listening audience, is to be our true and authentic self. And it's an objective that I have every day because we have all these indoctrinations from religion to our family to our society, to our schools and. But to just be true and authentic, man. Because when you can really be who you are to your core. Oh, it's just, it's beautiful.

[B]

And I'm working on authenticism just because I'm caught up in the rut of social. Social media and front and the CEO front and that and the other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's, it's. I got more thrown at me than you do.

[A]

Yeah, you know, I'd have to agree with that. But I want to encourage you in the listening audience, you know, especially with social media, there's a great opportunity for social media. As we all know, the challenge is that you get a glimpse of a moment for a lot of people, of what their life is portrayed to be. But then in many of those people, it's so very different. And you get. These people are like, I want to be this person, I want to be that person. And there's so many different people that they want to be, they lose focus on who they truly are and how to enhance ourselves and who we are to our core. And I think that's missing. But it's incumbent upon us, who were, you know, leaders in our communities, to impact those people and put it in perspective, to make sure people are living their true and authentic self. I said, by the way, in closing about two things that I want to impart to your audience. One was to manage their state of mind. And the other one is to use your imagination because it is the most powerful tool we possess. And, and Joe, you and I have kids. Those kids aren't educated because they're so small. I mean, they're limited in their education. They don't have a job, they don't have resources, they don't have a credit card. But you know what they have? They have a relentless pursuit to go, you know, papa, can I have a bicycle? And you go, oh, no, no, no, not yet. Or the girl goes, can I have a dress? Or whatever the case may be. And they put it on their phone, they put it on their iPad, they stick it on their wall. They're looking at every day, they're seeing other kids achieve those things, having bicycles and phones and all those different things. They get emotionally attached to how it's going to make them feel to have that new bicycle, that new skateboard, or to have that dress or to have that hairpiece or those tennis shoes or shoes or whatever the case may be. And they are relentless. And then, as we know, kids learn this word, and when you say no, they say, well, why? Because in their little minds, they see other kids achieve it. And that's called social proof. So in their mind's eye, if those other kids can have it or do it or achieve it, they can. And so they're relentless in today, tomorrow, the next day to go, you know, daddy, I want it, or papa, I want it, or mommy, I want it, or mom, I want it. And they're relentless. And before you know it, guess what's sitting in their. Their bedroom or in the garage? The new bike, the dress, the shoes. And because they're relentless and they have a belief and they're emotionally attached to, they can do that, achieve that, or go there. But as adults, what happens is that, unfortunately, some of a reality of life gets involved. And it's the story of a frog, where they take a frog, they put in a pot with, like, 2 inches of water, and the frog's in there, they put the lid on there, and the frogs, they put it on heat, and the water starts to get hot, and guess what happens? The frog starts jumping, is hitting the lid, and eventually what happens is that somebody's turning that thing on high, and the frog has given up their hope, okay, to escape and to jump out of the pot, and the frog burns to death, okay? So what happens to a lot of people in life as we get older is that we hit some difficulties. You ask about some challenges, and people start losing the resolve, okay, to continue down that path of success and that desire. And it's so interesting, I was listening to Elon Musk, and he was talking about, you know, they just had this successful launch of the Falcon 10. And he was talking about they failed the first time. He was trying to get engineers to hire, and he goes, I couldn't find any engineers. So I became the lead engineer. And not because I couldn't find any engineers, I couldn't find any engineers who believed in the vision that he had because they thought it was so wild and it was so dangerous, and it failed the first time. It failed the second time, it failed the third time, and now the fourth time they had success. And so I want to encourage your listeners to get a vision, okay, whatever it is, get a vision, get or goals or dreams, get emotionally attached to it and get hyper focused on it and man, and just be relentless and whatever you guys can think and achieve and think or dream, you can achieve. I mean, we're, we're proof of that. And not only us, there's enough of us where again, it's social proof. If they can do it, the listeners need to be walking away going, I can too.

[B]

One last question.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you?

[A]

He's going to say, well done, my good and faithful soldier. For sure. Yeah. I'm not a perfect man. And I don't claim that to be my claim to fame, but. But I am a good man. And that's the best person I can be, is be a good man. And so when I walk away and I'm sitting at those pearly gates, I. I know he'll say, well done, my good and faithful servant. You were a good man.

[B]

That's all we can do.

[A]

That's all we can do, baby. Yeah.

[B]

We're trying to be just good men.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Even though we fall.

[A]

Yeah. It's part of the journey though, right?

[B]

Hey, if people want to connect with you, and I know you're hard because you been retired for a while, how can they connect with you?

[A]

My Instagram is my name Doran Andre. So D O R A N Andre A N D R Y And they can connect to me there or on. I'm on TikTok, but I take it, I use it just for information because it's small bits of powerful information. But I don't post on it, so probably Instagram.

[B]

All right, perfect. Thanks, Doran. Thanks for jumping on the show. You've been a pleasure. Make sure to check out Door and I hope you hit all your goals. God bless you and thanks a lot.

[A]

And thank you for allowing me to serve you and, and your listening audience.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Okay, Boom.

[B]

Door Andre, Let's.