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What'S up everybody? And welcome to another episode of Coffees for Closers where success is served daily. Today we have a special guest renowned for his transformative influence and motivational prowess. He's a celebrated author of over 10 books and a dynamic speaker who has traveled to over 70, 75 countries, inspiring millions with his message of hope and resilience. As a mentor, he has coached high profile individuals and celebrities such as Kanye west and Robert Downey Jr. Helping them navigate personal recovery and discovery. He has spoken to audiences of over 85,000 people and has been featured on Oprah, Steve Harvey and cnn. Get ready to be inspired by the original comeback. Coach.
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One of the best intros I've heard and I've heard a lot.
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Thank you, Tim. Thank you.
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That was good.
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Yeah. It's an absolute blessing and honor to have you on today's show. We've been following you for a while and you know, it's, it's great to see someone like you, a man of faith, a man of God who's really in the public eye and is not like deflecting the word of God.
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Yeah.
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Who's embracing the spirit, the Holy Spirit and the transformative nature that the Holy Spirit can provide to those who need it most. And those are, who are in the public eye. So like folks like Robert Downey Jr. Kanye west, like people that are true a list celebrities who really, you know, aren't going, no, no, like look to look inward or look whatever, you know, look to some other idol. Like no, look to your heavenly father. And that's who's going to help you really make radical change.
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I like that. Yeah. I think that it's, it's more simple that people make it. I mean if there is a God, which we both know there is, and God has a plan for us, there's a difference between a good idea and a God idea. And if you find the God idea for your life and get in alignment to your assignment, things work out a lot better. And that's what I teach people all over the world.
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That's awesome. Get an alignment to your assignment.
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Yeah. Pretty simple stuff.
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So I like to start the show with the same question I ask everybody and, and then end with the same question I ask. So everyone I that comes on the show. I like to just get, get into their morning routine. So what is Tim Stor's morning routine?
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I wake up super early. So I wake up about 4:45am and I just do it. I'm just awake. There's no alarm clock and brush My teeth, wash my face, and then I'm a devotional guy. So from 5 to 7, I'll listen to the Bible on tape or I'll watch a sermon or a YouTube video, something that's going to feed my faith and starve my doubt. And part of that is I like what Carol Dweck says from Stanford University, that we need a growth mindset and not a fixed mindset. So every, every day I like to grow and get better. So two hours a day, seven days a week, I study.
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You study the word of God?
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Yes.
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That is deep. That's a lot. I wish I can commit that much time. I usually like, listen to the word of God concurrently while.
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Yeah.
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Working out or something else.
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It's nothing that I'm even going to speak. So I don't. I'm not studying something to speak. So right now there's a guy named N.T. wright. He, he's been around for a long time and he's a theologian and he's. He writes on different biblical characters and he's writing on the Apostle Paul. It's so dope to get the book on tape and just hear about Paul's journeys and how everything that he did was in Christ, through Christ, in Christ, through Christ. And then he's the one that said in Philippians and Jesus made himself of no reputation. The. That's what I was studying today. So I do that because I then want that to be ingrained into my personal lifestyle and constantly be transformed into the image of who God wants me to be.
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Now it's so fascinating, your story, like, you didn't, you didn't seek out to be a pastor and you didn't. But how did, how did you get started in all of this?
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So what, what happened to me? When I was in high school, I wanted to go to usc, which I had the grades to do, and I had great tutors and great teachers. So I wanted to go to usc, had the connections to go there. And I was planning on going there. I was going to do business and I was going to do communications because as you, we like to communicate. Somebody in one of my classes handed me a book about the life of Mother Teresa my junior year in high school. And I said, why do you want me to read this book? And she says, tim, this is so you. Because I was always like the caretaker, even though I was a good athlete. I liked everybody. I loved the underdog. So I said, I'll read it. So I read this book about Mother Teresa and how she was a nun. She was a teacher, but she heard the cries of the orphans. And I'm trying to tell you, I got emotional. And I thought, man, I think this is my life. I want to spend my life helping broken people. And I made that decision. Talked to my counselor at the high school who was just such a cool guy. He says, tim, this is so you. So I went to seminary is what I did.
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And then after seminary, what'd you do?
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While I was in seminary, I was already very fortunate. The story of my life is very Forrest Gumpish is that I've always had people that felt I want to help him. So in seminary, some older guys saw that I had a gifting and they took me out on what they were doing. They were doing these inner city outreaches, like speaking to kids, giving kids backpacks back to school supplies. And I said, do we have a curriculum for this? And they go, like, what do you mean? I said, we should create a curriculum. It was just something that hit my mind. So I literally created this curriculum on how to get up and out out of your situation. That was just phenomenal. Paid a lady who went to my school to actually edit everything and type it all out. And it was like a 70 page curriculum that I created at 19. And so I started using this curriculum in inner cities all over Florida when I was going to school. And I really got seen and heard from people from the NFL football. Some of the guys had heard about it. I had gone into their inner city, and one of them who was a famous, famous guy, said, listen, hey, man, little guy, little brother, you're amazing. I got money and you got a gift from God. Let's go. And so that's what happened. I started going to inner cities all over America doing this kind of work.
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And then an NFL player spotlighted you 100%. And then that's kind of how that was your introduction to the celebrity influencers.
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Yeah, it was. And. And again, I never look for that because that's not something that was even on my radar and on my radar. So this guy who is famous, he introduced me to about seven guys were just as famous. So think of all pros. These guys run at the all pro level. So some of those guys, not all they know entertainers. So the next thing you didn't know, these guys started saying, hey, Tim, can I get your phone number? This is before cell phones. And I'd say, yeah. And they go, I want to talk to you about. I'm having trouble with my girlfriend or my cousin's always trying to borrow Money. And so I started life coaching before life coaching was even a deal. So my doctorate is in world religion and my master's is in therapy. And so I was life coaching already when I was 20 and 21 years of age. Interesting.
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Wow. I didn't know that you had your PhD in. In World religion.
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Yes. So the way I have, we have that is that I could have earned it. But the seminar was nice enough to take studies that I had already done and they applied it to the PhD program. But I am a nerd. I like school. So school was not something that was difficult for me. It's something that I continued because I could have got out because I was already becoming pretty well known by my sophomore year of seminary.
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Amazing stuff. So your biggest. So what, your motivation when you started this journey, all derived from reading a book on Mother Teresa?
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I would say part of it, I think most of the drive is being born in Compton, California with seven people in a two bedroom apartment and seeing what it was to be cramped and crowded and also seeing what it was like to live an almost life. Almost means not quite. So if you saw the kids at school with Levi's, you got like plevis or you wanted Converse, you got something else that was like that. And to me, it just never settled in my heart that that's what I was supposed to be. And so I would say born in a lower income family that was cramped and crowded, that was driving a Volkswagen Beetle. Seven people in a Beetle. That's called illegal. Something in me just said, I think I'm gonna do something else.
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But you know, you didn't choose a path of like monetary gain, you chose a path of servitude.
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Yeah, the, the, the, the money came through the favor of God. That's on your life and my life. So I remember the first time I got paid to speak. I was 18 and I went and I spoke at this group and they gave me a $50 check. And I said, what's this? They said, it's for your speaking fee. And I go, no, no, no, no, no, I can't take it. So I saw that as, no, I'm not going to get paid for my services. I'm going to make my money in another way, like in business or something else. So the side of starting to make money later on in life by writing books and having a lot of educational material. And then I remember, I think I was like 22 and they asked me to speak at a big Amway convention. Like the multi level marketing.
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Yeah.
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And they paid me, like, $10,000. I was 22. I was like, yikes. It was not something I expected. And then I started doing more and more of these kind of conventions for herbalife and other ones. And I was getting those amounts of money in higher. And actually, it wasn't like I was, like, loving it. It almost made me nervous. I just wanted to make sure I didn't become a sellout.
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And then you were still using, you know, godly concepts in these. In these. These rallies.
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Yes.
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Were you ever, you know, told not to mention God when you were doing speaking agents?
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Yeah, all the time. And so I think that because of my personality, of being so down to earth, what I would say to guys is that, number one, I'm not a preacher. I'm not preaching. I'm telling my story. And my story is when you're in hardship in the neighborhood we were raised, and then your parents take you to church when you're four. And God touched my life at four. I'm just telling my story. And it was interesting that even some of the ones that were in opposition to me telling my story became people that said, you know what? I like you just. Just tell your story. So I. I think it's pretty cool that in the world that I get to live in now. So, you know, one minute, I could be with the dalai lama. I could be with deepak chopra. I could be in some. With some of these new age gurus, the biggest in the world. And I talk about christianity and what Jesus christ has done in my life.
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Now, being associated with all these celebrities and knowing all of them, do you ever get swayed by their lifestyle? And does it ever impact, you know, your belief system?
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When I was in my late 20s and 8. 30s, early 30s, maybe a little bit. And. And the reason I say that is because you have to understand, I had never been exposed to always eating lunch at the beverly hills hotel or always eating at spagos with who's who of celebrities. Not like these little d level celebrities who they call celebrities now, but guys who are the biggest actors and actresses of our day.
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Yeah. Like, kanye is not a social media influencer. Kanye is Kanye.
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Yeah.
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Kanye is not a youtuber. You know, like Robert Downey Jr. Is. Like the. Those aren't, you know, social. Those aren't insta famous folks.
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Kanye is like a little brother, but I met him in 2006. But let's go before that. Let's take 92, 1992. What I'm. When I'm spending time with jack lemon, Walter maau, I'M become friends with Charlton Heston. Later in the 90s, mid-90s, I'm hanging out with Le Ikoca, and Le Ikoca says, you teach me about God, I'll teach you about money. And then around that same time, Quincy Jones is taking me up to his mansion in Bel Air and we're talking about God and life. So to really be respected by the people who ran Hollywood, literally the biggest agents, the biggest managers, those are the guys I was around. And I was always like 20, 30 years younger than them. So what happens when you get influenced by that? Sure, there is some temptation that comes with that because I thought, wow, I've never been exposed to that, but I think that I always had good people around me that would challenge me. Like, is that really where you should go? Is that really what you should do? And I'm a person that likes to listen, and I'm a person that likes to get better.
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Clearly. I mean, you work on yourself, personal growth every single day for two hours.
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Yeah, I need to.
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We all need to now can we carve out that much time for personal growth? I mean, I like to do in other ways, you know, do a little bit of quiet time and then more like physical exercise just to clear my brain. But I definitely need that more. I need to spend more time in devotion.
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But I don't think if I was coaching you, even if you gave me 30 minutes, you can get it done. My thing is, I'm working with so many people, so let's say 300 at a time right now, but guys that are moving and shaking the world. I was talking to a guy from the country at 4am the lady that just called me as we were coming in here, that's a famous celebrity from a whole other country. And so my life is very unusual. So I think that I have to be more prepared because I'm giving out so much.
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Yeah, yeah, you're right. Now I'm just going to use like, you know, simple people, like, you know, what's Kanye's daily devotion time?
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Well, let's say when he was doing better, I would say that he first started coming to church with me in 2006. His mother, Donda, was a friend of mine. We had great talks, me and Donda West. I've had good talks with Kanye's dad. But when Kanye was doing better in his Christian walk, he was very, very into it and growing. Yeah, I can't get too much into his life because we're live in that. And he's like my little brother. Yeah, So I watch what I say about people.
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But no, just as an example, like for a normal, a layman, like, you know, if a star can do 30 minutes of prayer and quiet time every morning, like what's your excuse? Right. Or like just for the general public to use as a framework.
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So let's.
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Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, so Kanye west, let's take over.
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Let's say if I have over 200 entertainers that I work with now, which is probably around the amount I. I'm.
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Really the average of those really into.
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This book called Jesus Calling.
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Yeah. And there's so many variations of that. Right.
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It's a devotional.
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Right. But that's like a one minute devotional. But then you, if you get into all of the text that's required to.
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Yes. So what I do with a lot of these guys and because some of them are Jewish, some of them are Muslim, some of them are no religion, they're new age. And I'll say, have you learned to trust me? We've been working together six years. Yeah. Or six months even. Or two months. Yeah, I trust you. Let me buy you this devotional. Or you have your team buy the devotional and just start reading it every day. It's amazing with the word does to people. And so I think where I've become a pro is that I never pull people into like a church setting because a lot of people don't want to go to church, but they are looking for God. And so once they come closer to God, I say, God, reveal yourself to them. And how is he going to reveal himself? He's going to reveal Jesus Christ to them. So this is what I see a lot. So it's almost like a, like you hear like a click funnel. Like a funnel.
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Yeah.
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I bring them through the funnel of daily devotional talk to God, ask him if Jesus is real, reveal Jesus to me. And then this is what happens.
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So they go through the. So everyone's going through the Jesus Calling book. Going through the scripture required the associated readings.
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Yeah.
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That's a 15, 20 minute clip right there.
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Yeah, yeah. And. And I think right there and then I, I believe in this idea of prayer and meditation. Prayer. Meditation is a biblical idea.
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Absolutely.
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So Psalms 1 says to meditate on God's word.
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Yeah.
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So you can spend time meditating and being in a place of meditation. 10, 15, 20 minutes. Plus. I'm not opposed to all my buddies who are doing the ice bath. A lot of my guys are doing that. A lot of them are doing, breathing, exercising.
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Yeah.
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I'M okay with all that, too. So, you know, like, I'm. I like Jesse Itzler. He's really into that. Grant Cardone is really into that.
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They're into the ice bass. I like the sauna more and more because I'm, you know, North African, and we can't do ice, so.
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Yeah. So I. I don't think everybody needs to do it this way. This way is something that I enjoy, number one, because I like to learn. And secondly, it helps me to constantly stay in a state of flow. Like you saw, I came into your office, and I just started flowing with you guys.
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Did you see that abs? Everybody. You flowed with everybody.
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Yeah.
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The guys walked in. He's like, tim Stor's here, man. His. His energy is unreal. Like, he just comes in, controls the room, giving everyone positive vibes.
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Like, yeah, but I'm not thinking that. And I didn't learn that from how to Win Friends and Influence People. So even though I read that book, that's not where I'm coming from. I never come into a space saying, I'm gonna win this space over. I come into this space saying, you're gonna meet people that are made in the image of God and treat them good, serve them, be good to them, because you never know what somebody's going through.
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That mindset right there allows you to be so approachable and to, you know, everyone. We had. We had to kick people out of the room to start the show because everyone just wanted to keep talking to, you know, and it's like, oh, Tim's story and that. Not from a starstruck perspective. They were like. They were like. It was brotherly, you know, conversations you were having with everybody.
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Yeah, but I. But I appreciate that. I was. I was. I won't say which one, but it's either abc, cbs, or fox. So I was at one of those studios just recently, and the same thing happened. They were all coming out of their cubicles, and one of the heads of that company said, what the heck? This is like, crazy. Like, Tim, we get the biggest stars in the world coming through here, and they're not jumping out of their offices. I go, it's a different connection. And all of it was always like, man, Tim, your messages are changing my life. Or, man, I was in a tough situation. I read your book Turning youg Setbacks to Comebacks. So it was really spiritually based of a person who really helped bring change. But that excites me because that's really the vibe of a Mother Teresa and the vibe of somebody like a Nelson Mandela.
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Now explain to me how you made that transition from seminary to life coach. Because it's a pretty big transition because you're either going, you're going for SEM to seminary to be a pastor. Yeah, but you went from seminary and then you became a life coach, which is actually, yeah, way better, I think.
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So what happens in life as you know, some things you decide. It's like you could be freshman year at USC and they'll say, okay, declare your major. And some people have thought it through, but some are like trying to think of their major on the spot. So for me, I just knew I was in seminary to learn more about God and to learn about helping people. So then when doors started to open up where people started inviting me, I started getting invited to Europe to speak at high schools that were not Christian, but to do motivational speaking at high schools. Okay. And then I started getting invited to do more inner city things where it was what we call secular, but also I put a Christian slant to it. Then I started being invited to speak at churches, but I thought to myself, I think that's for somebody else. I think that's more for like a Billy Graham type that I will always speak at churches, but I don't see myself as a traditional preacher. So I know a lot of the traditional preachers all over the world, and I think that they're amazing guys, many of them, and amazing women doing a very good job. But I don't, I don't label myself just that. I label myself as a servant of God and a humanitarian to people.
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Now on that note, because you're well known not just in the church scene, but you're very well known in the secular scene, which is the, you know, the aspire tour, the 10x tour, all the biggest business conferences in the world. You are always one of the keynote speakers.
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Yes.
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So how did you make that transition from a godly, faith based guy? And I know like Dan Fleischman and Grant Cardone and all the, the leaders of industry, they're godly people, but they don't, they're not like preachers. Right. But it's amazing. And I know, like, you know, their values are all godly values, but, you know, because they have to, you know, they have to cater to the masses. They like slip you in, you know, like, they slip in like a man. They, they, they have to slip in. So, you know, like, just let everybody know, like, we're not atheists here. Just so you all know, like, we are all faith based People, but they have to, sadly, in this world, this world, we're all fed, you know, hoorah about, you know.
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Yeah.
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So it's amazing that they. These industry titans can bring you in, and they chose you to kind of be the spearhead of bringing the Word of God in a massive audience. And it's just fascinating to see. Number one, they chose you. Number two, how did you get. That's a big role ordained by God, you know, to bring the Word in these massive business conferences. And you're the only one doing it. Like, no one else. Like, none of the other speakers are coming out there, like, with that narrative. Right. So it's just fascinating how they chose you and why they chose you.
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Yeah, I.
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And how did you become that guy?
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I. I see it, number one, as an assignment by God, that God gives people assignments and that then he also gives you favor. Favor is that little extra. So when I met Grant Cardone, maybe almost 15 years ago, I was in his office, and he just kept staring at me. He goes, man, I don't know why I love you so much. Man, I don't know why I love you so much. And we started doing things instantly. Like, I'm about to do an event with him. We're doing an event just in a few months. It's myself, Grant, my friend Jesse Itzler, whose wife created Spanx and became a billionaire. John Max will be there, but also guys like Rick Ross. So could you imagine that I get to just, like, be me in those settings. How about speaking on stages with Dalai Lama? Are so many with Deepak Chopra, so many with these other people that would be considered New Age gurus. And for them to take me in. But I am a Jesus guy. So it's like the disciples said, I cannot deviate from what I have seen and what I've heard.
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Yeah.
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So this is me for a period of time. I'm still young enough. I'll do it for a period of time, and then someday I'll slide out of this physical body and live eternally. But until then, I'm just grateful for the assignment. And one of my assignments today is to hang out with you. And what a privilege.
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What a privilege for me as well. I gotta ask, though. What is it like being a Jesus guy and then having a conversation with the Dalai Lama?
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I didn't get a chance to have a conversation with him because he was so protected. He had his guys around him. But when I do get around others, him.
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Yeah.
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But are at a pretty high level. Pretty much the same Phenomenal. And what I find is that they want a dialogue with me because they're wondering how I got to the masses. So I realized that a lot of people are very curious about people that have done well in life. So, as you know, I life coach a lot of people that have done extremely well financially and that are very, very, very famous. And a lot of people in sports, in the highest level of sports and highest level of film and entertainment and comedians and rappers. And so it's funny, a lot of these guys, they know about that. They want to talk about that stuff, like, who's this. How's that guy like? Or what she really like? Or how did this really happen? So I think God gave me the favor for many reasons to get into that world, but. But one is it got the attention of so many people.
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Like, when you're life coaching Robert Downey Jr. Or Kanye, like, are you doing this on Zoom? On phone? You go into their house. Like, how. How does that even commence?
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So let's. Let's take it into just so many people. So let's. Let's take my friendship with Charlie Sheen. I've been friends with Charlie since the 90s, so I started life coaching him, helping him. We would do events at his house. Charlie admits he's undone. Charlie admits he's been through a lot, and that's one reason I love him so much. But, you know, Charlie used to call my house to just talk to my mother because he can speak in Spanish, and my mother speaks Spanish. That's her first language. And is he Hispanic?
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He was Hispanic. Huh.
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His father speaks Spanish. So in. In his home with him and Emilio. Yeah, there was Spanish that was being spoken. And so Charlie Schenkins speaks Spanish. But, you know, I spent a lot of time with him alone, and I would spend time with him on the phone or on Zoom. Just yesterday, I spoke to some of the biggest stars in the world. This is a. It's a week. It's a weekly occurrence of the biggest soccer stars, American football stars, music stars. But it's a daily occurrence of just entertainers of some sort. But can I tell you something? I think everybody's a celebrity. If you work at 7:11 and somebody celebrates you, then you're a celebrity. I see everybody as special, but I do give honor where honors do for these guys that have crushed it like an Al Pacino. You know, I give them credit.
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Yeah. And it's. It's nice to be around so many brilliant minds. Like, you know, we're part of a kind of the Same group in this, in Dave Meltzer's masterminds group. And he really has done like a great job bringing, you know, the top celebrities, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and.
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Yes.
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Getting them to, to get together, collaborate and envision and do something for good.
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Yes.
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You know, donate to charity.
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Great job of that.
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Yeah.
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Very, very good job.
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Feed the, the poor, help the poor. Come up. Collaborate on, on doing God's work. And he's pretty vocal about being, you know, a servant of God and, and.
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And, and he knows so many amazing people.
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The most amazing people.
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Yeah, he does. From, from sports entertainment.
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Yeah.
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And as you know, you love him. I love him. He's a family man. I'm so proud of who he is.
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Yeah. And it's, it's just phenomenal that he's, he gets, you know, all these, these athletes, these celebrities, servants and everyone's like minded. You know, we're all here, we're just here to serve.
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Yeah.
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We're here to do God's work. It's, it's not about money.
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Yeah.
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And it's not about, you know, glory. Because everyone, when we set these groups and I go to these dinners, it's like, these are full dinners. Open bar.
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Yeah.
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Not one drink. Nobody's drinking. Nobody's like, you know, everyone is faithful.
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Everyone's seen.
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Everyone's like there, everyone's. No one's desserts served the finest desserts. No one's eating the dessert.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's like.
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But I want to say this because I, I am here to serve. I'm here to give, but I'm here to make impact.
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Yep.
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So I don't play. I'm here to shake some stuff up. So, you know, being to 81 countries and as you say, speaking 85,000 at one time, I'm not just sitting there, very calm. I got a fight in me. I help people. In prison reform, been part of a group, I was on the board for years. My tenure ended, called arc. Arc, that was started by a famous celebrity. I still work in prison reform. I'm in the recovery world where people are dying. I'm helping people in mental health. I'm big into that. I own part of nine psychology centers. So I'm here to make impact. I'm here to bring change. I'm a revolutionary.
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On that note, where do you think that drive and that motivation to create a long lasting impact is derived from?
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It's not ego, it's definitely God. Because there's a side of me that's so laid back. I love music. I love art. I love plays. And so this fight in me to bring change, I believe is a God assignment. So I teach this. I say, number one, you have a God idea. Secondly, you should be obedient to that God idea. Thirdly, somebody is waiting for you on the other side of your obedience to your God idea. So I say, don't keep them waiting. So I got to give you props. I'm loving these offices. I get to go into a lot of offices. I just was at Jeff Fenster's office just recently in San Diego. He's running that amazing program with all those stores that he has. I get to go into so many amazing offices for different reasons. I love the flow here. I love the energy here. And it starts from the top. And that's you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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What you're doing.
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We. And like I told you in the beginning, you know, like, our number one pillar, we got five company pillars here. Our number one pillar is service. Number one. And I tell everybody, you serve your clients with all your heart, all your might, all your soul. You serve your vendor partners, your lender partners.
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Yeah.
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And each other with all your heart, all your might, all your soul. That is our number one pillar. Serve, serve, serve. You know, and then our second pillar to stack on top of that is community. Everybody within the organization is a community. We're a community. Now, everyone that we serve, whether they're lenders, vendors, appraisers, you know, all part of our community. So community is everything here. And through that community, we are able to foster a community of collaboration.
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Yes.
B
You know, because, like, there is no. Like, you're not my competitor now. We're 900. There's 900 loan officers here. They're all independent brokers or bankers or business owners. So can you imagine there's 900 people who are all entrepreneurs who. Now, you have resources, you have access to all these people as brothers that are there. Like, we're here to serve. Like, oh, did we. There's oftentimes these people within this organization, they stumble upon another person's client. It's like, oh, you're with E Mortgage. Oh, you're working with E Mortgage. And, yeah, talking to. They never met the guy. Like, oh, he's great. Stay with them. We're not. We don't step on each other's toes. Matter of fact, I'm gonna help you get everything to him asap. So we really try to foster and embrace a community of collaboration and servitude. And. And our third pillar after that is relationships. Everybody within the organization is a lifelong relationship, and our clients are lifelong relationships. You sit with me for 30 minutes now we're 40 minutes now. Now we're gonna be buddies for life.
A
Yeah.
B
So we're gonna foster this relationship forever.
A
I believe so.
B
You know, we're always embracing relationships, the community servitude. So that, and then I, I just say that all day long. Service, community, relationships. We're ever forward. We're always progressing. We're always changing things up. We're always, you know, trying to evolve. That's our fourth pillar.
A
Yeah.
B
And then we're all thumb pointers here. Like, we're all accountable for, you know. You know, you screw up, it's your fault. You don't, you don't go his fault. No, it's my fault. Like, what did I do wrong? Where did I go wrong?
A
Yeah.
B
So that's, that's our fifth pillar. And we call that the acronym for all. That's our secret. That's our secret to success.
A
Yes.
B
Service, community relationships. Ever forward. Dumb pointers.
A
I love that.
B
Yeah, so that's, that's what we try to push. You see those little icons when you walked in the kitchen? There's that. Our pillars are plastered on the wall. We try to, you know, really push, Push that narrative all the time and, you know, keep preaching it.
A
I love it. And I like that you have a ping pong table here.
B
Basketball, Basketball.
A
We have gave me some good tea.
B
Yeah. Yeah. And you're gonna get that mug too.
A
Thanks for flowing.
B
Yeah, we're flowing. We're trying to do whatever we can. Now we want to talk about. Because you're. You're the comeback coach.
A
Yeah.
B
So on that note, like, what's the greatest miracle that you've seen in, in the 30 plus years you've been doing this?
A
Yeah.
B
You don't have to give names if you don't want to, but watch how cool this is.
A
A comeback is to get back to a place that you previously were. Okay, so most people, when they have a set, back to set means to fix, to solidify, to lock something. Most people sit in a setback, settle in a setback, cement themselves in a setback. I say while you're feeling the sting of your setback, God is preparing your comeback. So I think that even while a kid is lost, God's already preparing the comeback. The miracles in motion. Even while a business is awry, God is preparing to come back if you are looking for God to do that. So I think I have so many comeback stories because again, I, I work with the greatest minds and entertainers, etcetera, in the world. But without going into the story of it, I would say to watch some of my friends who look like they were finished and then they won the Academy Award without saying names, because I have that. That'd be four people. Or it looks like they were just done and something big happened. I was in Milan the other day, Italy, and I ran into George Clooney. And I've known George 25 years. And all that he was saying is about me and God and me and the things of God and me and all the people I've helped and me and all the friends that I've helped.
B
So George is a solid man of faith.
A
No, George is. George. I don't know what George is like that. I mean, I know George as my friend, but, like, here's what I think, and you're not doing that. But we have to be careful to say that just because I saw so and so with Tim's story, that they must really be going for this 100% and they must be going to a megachurch. No. Sometimes they're just looking for answers. Want to talk about faith? Want to talk about God? What George is, is a very smart man and a very nice man and always been great to me. Yeah.
B
As long as he's a good human. Right. And he's a. Yeah.
A
I mean, listen, we're all on our journey, so whether it be Tony Hawk the skater or George Clooney or Kelly Slater the surfer, I think it's. Everybody's on their. On their journey. And that's what Jesus was. I think he had 12 disciples. Judas decided to really go the wrong way. And Jesus was very patient with people. I'm very patient with people I work with. You know, at one time, out of the seven biggest rappers, I probably worked with five in the world. The biggest five in the world out of the seven. And they would sometimes cuss in front of me on accident, or I'd go into the studio, they forgot I was coming, and it was just blazing with weed. And then they were. Oh. And they'd bring it down. So I don't judge. And I always say, you may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be.
B
That's. Yeah. And that. I mean, that's good for them. That's powerful. That's a powerful statement. Now, you've seen a lot of these celebrities experience some pretty big pitfalls.
A
Yeah.
B
Kanye, notably, Robert Downey Jr. I mean, those are like. But they Came back, and they came back better than ever.
A
Yeah. So let's leave it off those two guys for a second just because those guys are like my brothers. So, like, I don't. I. I won't always say what's happening to my brother, because these are my brothers, and that's why we're so tight. You know, I've remained tight with these guys for some 30 years. Some of them.
B
Yeah.
A
So I don't say everything. So let's just say in general, I think that anybody that is willing to look to God in the midst of a setback, their life will be changed. David said in Psalm 77, I cried out to God, and he heard me, and he delivered me from all my sorrow. That's it right there. So whether I'm dealing with somebody you see on tmz, like, if you see him on tmz, it's a good possibility. Tim Stories. Working. Working with him. So if somebody cries out to God. Okay. With all their heart, he's. He's going to answer and he's going to look for ways to deliver them. And to me, that's awesome.
B
You're like, so how does it. Like, once the celebrity is going through hardship, like, is there, like, just a network that just reaches out to you?
A
Yes. Called agents, managers, friends. I have been the life coach to the biggest agents and managers in the history of Beverly Hills.
B
So they're just like, I got a guy for this 100%, and you're the guy.
A
Was. Every week of my life.
B
You're the. You're. You're like the. The celebrity. I mean, you are the celebrity comeback coach, but you. You're in all their managers and agents. Rolodex.
A
Not all, but. Don't ask me to, like, cook you chicken Florentine. Don't ask me to fix your boat. But in the. In the area of turning a setback to come back, I do not think I could be beat.
B
That's not. That's incredible. That's incredible. I mean, your story is incredible. What you've done for so many people who need your. Your service, you know, your servitude, your faith, your. You come in like a shining light of armor right in. In darkness for these folks. And I just can't imagine the darkness that some of these guys are in.
A
Yeah.
B
Where you're. I think you're. You're saving a lot of their lives, like, and with.
A
And with boldness. So when I say in. That I cannot be beat in fixing a tire, I can be beat in ping pong you were just beating me.
B
I smoked you, okay?
A
And what Grant Cardone does, he's whooping me. And what my buddy Ed Mylett does, he's whooping me in. In setback to cutback, I just cannot be beat because I put my whole life into this.
B
Why do you think that, like, from setback to comeback, what is it that makes you the greatest in that space?
A
Okay, so where, like, I think you would have to ask the people that I helped, who is the greatest? So that's like if you had Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye and Smokey Robinson, they were all great for Motown. Who are they to say I'm better than Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And this is the reason why. So it's what people say about me and how they look for me from 81 countries of the world. Like, people are looking for me all day long. That's why I keep my ringer off. And if I'm driving with people that are close to me, I try to take the Bluetooth off so I'm just not staring at everybody looking for me. People are looking for me 24 hours a day. So I don't think I have the answer. To say the reason I'm the best is these five steps. But I've worked hard at it. There's an understanding, there's a grace, and I get results. Results is a big thing. Let's get results.
B
Yeah, I mean, listen, here's my answer to that question. You're just divinely appointed.
A
I like that answer by you.
B
But you can't. In your humility, you, you can't. You know you're not going to say that, but I, I firmly believe that.
A
No, but I'll take that from a younger, good looking guy like yourself. So I'm just doing what I do. But there will be a time I'm going to exit this earth. My mother's 93. I hope I go like mid-90s or late 90s, but healthy. I want to go healthy and strong and then I'm cool with it because I'm doing my assignment and I'm living my life. I'm living my life by the grace of God and work through problems still. We all have challenges, but I thank God for his grace.
B
Amazing. Now I want to ask you, is there like a popular mindset or principle that you like to instill for the comeback?
A
Yes. Yeah. A comeback is not a go back. A comeback is not a go back. Watch if a man who's a powerful businessman loses a lot, I'm going to get that back, Charles Barkley. Charles, if you're watching this live, you said in an interview so I could say this, that when you would lose millions of dollars in Vegas, you could hardly sleep thinking, I got to get that money back. See, that's how a lot of people are. I got to get back what I lost. I got divorced. I got to get my reputation back. I fell on my butt. I got to get my reputation back. That's not how I think. I think this. You have to be quick to ask for forgiveness, ask God to help you forget, and ask God to help you go forward. Forgive, forget, go forward. That's how I roll.
B
I love that. I love. And I don't even know how to even, you know, do a follow up to that. You know, I want to close out with that, but I got a couple more questions because don't even try to.
A
Don't try to mess with that Jay Z rhyme right there, because that was dope.
B
Yeah. Forgive, forget, go forward. That is amazing. What is your favorite quote?
A
One of my own. Sometimes you got to go left before you go right. Come on, man.
B
That's awesome.
A
Sometimes you got to go left before you go right. Man, I dated all the wrong men. A woman would say, sometimes you got to go left before you go right. My. My business has failed. Sometimes you got to go left before you go right. Every person God ever called to do great things, he allowed them to be left before he got them right.
B
And now what's the best piece of advice you've ever received?
A
One of the best pieces of advice to me was by Quincy Jones. The Quincy Jones. And he said, little brother, you can't help yourself. God's hand is on you, and you're going to do really big things. The key is for you just to cooperate with the bigness that you're called to do. So that's all I'm doing. I'm just. I'm just cooperating with what he's called me to do. And when I say big, Big to me is doing this podcast. Big to me is talking to your staff. One of your staff or workers saw me speak on Sunday at a church. You saw that I tr. Treat. Treat him with respect. Another guy, staff member grew up with me. Haven't seen him probably in 40 years. You see, I. I took time with him.
B
So another staff member followed you and was something else.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, like everybody. Everybody knew you when you walked in.
A
It's all about treating people like these amazing humans that they are.
B
Yeah.
A
In the image of almighty God. Even if somebody's lost and very lost, I still treat them good. Even if they treat me like crap. I do my best to at least tolerate them. I'll never let a person hurt me, injure me, be used by the devil to get me. But I will try to be as kind as I can.
B
Now, we talked about so many great things, but, like, we haven't talked about any hardship. Like, what's the biggest hardship you've ever experienced and how did you overcome it?
A
The biggest hardship I've ever faced is my brother dying. So you had three sisters. A brother who was three years older than me, very handsome, went to Cal State Fullerton. Then he becomes an engineer for a company called McDonnell Douglas. And he used to drink a lot on the weekends. He would let Friday come. He'd knock him down. Friday, drink a lot, on Saturday, drink half a Sunday. And it really started to deteriorate his body. Even though he was only in his mid-30s and then late-30s. And I tried to help him. I tried to help him spiritually. He pushed back on me. He saw me as the brother that had it all. Look at Timmy. He's got such a great life, you know, everybody loves him. And, I mean, this guy was good looking. He could surf, he could put cars together. Just a smart guy. He was an engineer. But he was caught in a world that wasn't true. And that is he let the enemy, and there is an enemy accuse him and tell him that he wasn't much. And he ended up dying on alcoholism because his body couldn't take it anymore. So we found him dead. So that is the heartbreak of my life, because I've helped literally thousands of people break addiction, get out of addiction, walk out of addiction, walk in sobriety. My own brother's dead, so that. That is a heartbreak of my life.
B
I'm sorry to hear that. And I'm sure that just motivated you more to fight the enemy.
A
Yes, one of us.
B
It's. And you being so close to Hollywood, I mean, you're seeing this firsthand in the entertainment space, you've seen this firsthand. The enemy just gets those people.
A
That's why I'm so bold against it. Like, I remember in Dog the Bounty Hunter, you might be watching this live. I remember somebody on his team said, nobody has ever talked to him like that because I got mad at him for something he was doing. And I just went at him like, that's one thing about me. From being inner city. I'll go at a guy.
B
Yeah.
A
So they could say, like, you Know, you know, you're gonna talk to him for 12 minutes. I. I just smile like, that ain't gonna happen. Let. Let him sit in front of me. He'll want to talk to me for more than 12 minutes. And the next thing you know, the guy's crying and I'm going at him hard. Or if a guy who is, you know, doing really bad things and cheating on his wife forever, I'll. I'll come at him hard. And it's not because you think you're more pious or I think I'm more pious or more perfect. I just love people enough to tell them the truth. Yeah.
B
And that takes a huge sense of boldness. Not a lot of people are going to be bold to and go tell, like, some superstar athlete or celebrity what. I mean, you're one of the few people in the world that. That will do it.
A
I will do it. One guy that you would know who's a famous rapper that we have not mentioned. I went to the studio, and he said he was gonna order us food. Me and him and the other guy. And he. He's so selfish. He only ordered food for himself. So when the food came, I go, oh, man, I'm hungry. What do we get? He goes, oh, I didn't get anything for you guys. And he just started eating his food. I go. I go, man, come on. How selfish are you? Like, you're serious. Like, you just order. He goes, yeah, I just ordered for myself. I said, because you forgot. He goes, no, I just want to order for myself. I go, you need to rethink that. I said, I'm going to take off. This is a true story. I left. He just kept calling me and calling. It's a famous guy. Just kept calling and calling, like, don't be mad at me.
B
Taught him a life lesson, though.
A
It taught him a lot less. A life lesson. Yeah, buy the other guy food.
B
Yeah. And don't be that selfish. You know, I know I. I always appreciate when people call me out or, you know, for me, like, in my position. Oh, he's a CEO or he's some whatever. Like, I need. I need help. I need constructive criticism. Criticism. I need a spiritual mentor, you know, a life coach. I. You know, I'm always seeking wise counsel because I'm on. I'm on the beginning of my journey still, you know.
A
Well, if this is called the beginning, I can't wait to see what's next. Because at your young age, you don't have to say your age at your young age. Look at this Building the way it's being run. You have millions of people following you on social media. You're a phenomenal communicator. You're not just good, your mind is just like that. Quick. You got my attention here real quick. And so you're going to do nothing but go higher and higher. Higher. Why? Because God is on you. The, the Bible says I will take you from glory to glory to glory, dimension to dimension to dimension. So I'm not trying to go where Elon Musk went, I'm not trying to go where Jeff Bezos went. I got a whole other vibe going. I am connected to an all powerful God. Omnipresent. Right. Omnipotent, all powerful. That's how you are. We are going dimension to dimension to.
B
Dimension, you know, and we say that in our liturgy, like omnipresent, omnipowerful and you know, glory. To glory. To glory. But the way you broke it down and the way you simplified that, the magnitude and of that concept, you know, like that's what people don't get. Like God's going to take you from here to here to here to here. And just to understand, like in just this six month segment where I started this journey of the podcast.
A
Yeah.
B
Health and, and social media, I've already, you know, I'm now the, I've been able to take my brand, the podcast, into the biggest in the space. But now I'm like, I'm going to use it for God's glory even more.
A
So, I mean, obviously you're going to speak, so let me prophesy over you for a minute. You're going to speak, you'll do the podcast, you'll have some kind of masterminds that you do probably do very amazing conferences in the way you want to do them because bigger is not always better. But you're going to branch out into many things. Like you look at men like Richard Branson, they have like eight different companies going at the same time. You look at Magic Johnson, he probably has 15 different companies at one time. That's what I see happening for you. But at the same time, you'll be a good husband and a good father and the good man that you are today.
B
Those are the two hardest jobs, by the way. Husbandry, fatherhood, like those are tough. Yeah.
A
Be pulled away from those kind of things if you're not careful.
B
Yeah. And you know, and, and they take a great amount of time. And when you have multiple jobs.
A
Yeah.
B
It does cause deflection and, and, oh, you know, so are we.
A
Are we live on Instagram right now.
B
We're live on Instagram.
A
Are we getting emojis or anything?
B
I have no idea. We gotta. I'm sure we are.
A
So I just want to just tell you guys, if we're live on Instagram.
B
Still, we're live on Instagram and Tik Tok, but it only goes for an hour, so we're going to be wrapping up here.
A
Send me some dog on emojis. I like emojis. Give me some hearts and give me some fire.
B
Yeah, absolutely. You're going to get the. I'm sure emojis are dropping. I got.
A
Wrap this thing up because I know you got to finish it.
B
I got. I got one last. Two last questions. Wednesday. What is a personal goal you have for yourself? A goal that you have for Tim Story companies?
A
Yeah.
B
And a goal that you have for your family?
A
Okay. No big personal goal for myself. I think I did much more than I thought I'd ever do. Sure. I'm in the movie business. I got a dope movie coming out with a star that I told you about.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm working on Broadway plays. I have my own TV show coming out in 2025.
B
What's that gonna be on level at?
A
Like, at the big, big level.
B
Okay.
A
Think of the big networks.
B
Okay.
A
The Tim Story Show. Okay. So that's all dope. But that's not, like the big thing I think about. So no goals like that. I just want to follow the will of God and family. Goals is to continue to see my children. I have two children. Understand and embrace God in a. In a. In a better way, in a stronger way, and understand legacy so that they could take the legacy to the next generation. But I think that's what a lot of parents feel. It's easy to like, oh, my God, my kids are getting it. Yeah. They're six. You know, let them be 22 and have other influences. Let them be 25 other influences.
B
And so let them be 10 and 11. And there's big influences.
A
I work on that all the time by spending time with them and talking to them and that. But that's what's important to me. But where I'm at right now is I'm just trusting God and I'm glad to be alive and I'm glad to.
B
Be in your studio, and it's a blessing to have you. My last question, and I kind of know how this is going to be answered, but when you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you well done.
A
The good and faithful servant.
B
Amazing. Amazing. God bless you. God bless your service, God bless your ministry. God bless everything that you're doing for the community, the business community, the entertainment community and all, and the church communities that continue to invite you to their churches to speak to the masses. You're an incredible leader, an incredible servant, and I wish you and I pray for nothing but the best for you and your family.
A
Thank you.
B
Thank you. Thanks, everybody. Tim Story. And how do people find you if they want to connect with you on social media?
A
This way, it's just the website. Tim Story S-T-R-E-Y.com Then that leads you everywhere.
B
Perfect. Tim Story. Also, all social media is Tim's Story you can follow, right? Tim Story on Instagram.
A
Yes.
B
And LinkedIn, Facebook, everything. All right, guys. Thank you guys for watching today's show. Coffees for closers. Tim Story, the great comeback.
Podcast Summary: Miracle Maker Tim Storey | Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby Ep. 61
Introduction
In Episode 61 of "Coffeez for Closers" titled "Miracle Maker Tim Storey," host Joseph Shalaby engages in an inspiring conversation with Tim Storey, a renowned life coach, author, and motivational speaker. Tim is celebrated for his transformative influence, having authored over ten books and spoken to audiences across 81 countries. Notably, he has mentored high-profile individuals and celebrities like Kanye West and Robert Downey Jr., guiding them through personal recovery and self-discovery.
Early Life and Calling
Tim Storey's journey began in Compton, California, where he was born into a lower-income family. Growing up in a two-bedroom apartment with seven family members instilled in him a profound desire to effect change and help those in need. This calling was solidified during his high school years when a classmate handed him a book about Mother Teresa. Inspired by her life of service, Tim decided to dedicate his life to helping broken individuals.
Notable Quote:
“If there is a God, which we both know there is, and God has a plan for us, there's a difference between a good idea and a God idea. And if you find the God idea for your life and get in alignment to your assignment, things work out a lot better.” — Tim Storey [02:24]
Transition from Seminary to Life Coaching
Initially planning to attend USC for business and communications, Tim's path changed dramatically after reading about Mother Teresa. He enrolled in seminary to deepen his understanding of God and to better serve others. During seminary, Tim observed a need for structured guidance in inner-city outreach programs. Demonstrating his proactive nature, he developed a 70-page curriculum to help individuals rise above their circumstances, which gained significant traction and led to collaborations with NFL players and other prominent figures.
Notable Quote:
“I created this curriculum on how to get up and out of your situation. That was just phenomenal... I started going to inner cities all over America doing this kind of work.” — Tim Storey [06:05]
Building a Network with Celebrities
Tim's unique approach and genuine desire to help attracted the attention of influential celebrities. An NFL player recognized Tim's gift and introduced him to other high-profile individuals, leading to his role as a life coach for stars like Robert Downey Jr. and Kanye West. Despite his growing fame, Tim remained humble, focusing on serving others rather than seeking monetary gain.
Notable Quote:
“The money came through the favor of God... I never look for that because that's not something that was even on my radar.” — Tim Storey [10:46]
Personal Philosophy and Morning Routine
Tim emphasizes the importance of a disciplined morning routine centered around faith and personal growth. He wakes up at 4:45 AM without an alarm, engages in devotional activities, and dedicates two hours daily to studying the Bible and sermons. This routine not only strengthens his faith but also fuels his commitment to helping others.
Notable Quote:
“From 5 to 7, I'll listen to the Bible on tape or I'll watch a sermon or a YouTube video, something that's going to feed my faith and starve my doubt.” — Tim Storey [02:44]
Working with Diverse Personalities
Tim's clientele spans various backgrounds, including different religions and none at all. He adeptly introduces daily devotional practices to individuals, fostering a personal connection with God without imposing a church setting. His ability to relate to diverse individuals while maintaining his Christian beliefs sets him apart in the life coaching industry.
Notable Quote:
“I never pull people into like a church setting because a lot of people don't want to go to church, but they are looking for God.” — Tim Storey [19:32]
Challenges and Overcoming Hardships
One of the most poignant moments in the conversation revolves around the tragic loss of Tim's brother to alcoholism. This personal hardship deepened Tim's resolve to combat addiction and support others battling similar struggles. His brother's death serves as a powerful motivator in his mission to save lives and bring about meaningful change.
Notable Quote:
“The biggest hardship I've ever faced is my brother dying... He ended up dying on alcoholism because his body couldn't take it anymore.” — Tim Storey [53:36]
Impact and Achievements
Tim proudly shares his extensive impact, having influenced over 85,000 individuals worldwide. His work transcends traditional life coaching, encompassing prison reform, mental health advocacy, and ownership of psychology centers. Tim's dedication is fueled by what he describes as a divine assignment, emphasizing that his efforts are not for personal glory but to serve a higher purpose.
Notable Quote:
“I'm a revolutionary. I'm here to make impact. I'm here to bring change.” — Tim Storey [35:12]
Key Insights and Principles
Throughout the episode, Tim imparts several key principles that drive his success and the success of those he mentors:
Notable Quotes:
“Forgive, forget, go forward. That's how I roll.” — Tim Storey [50:46]
“A comeback is not a go back. A comeback is not a go back...” — Tim Storey [39:35]
Conclusion
The episode concludes with Tim reflecting on his past, his ongoing mission, and his hopes for the future. He emphasizes the importance of family, legacy, and staying true to one's divine mission. Tim's unwavering faith and dedication serve as a beacon of hope and inspiration for listeners, illustrating the profound impact of aligning one's life with a higher purpose.
Notable Quote:
“When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you? Well done. The good and faithful servant.” — Tim Storey [63:53]
Final Thoughts
"Coffeez for Closers" Episode 61 offers a deep dive into Tim Storey's remarkable journey from a humble upbringing in Compton to becoming a sought-after life coach for some of Hollywood's biggest names. His story is a testament to the power of faith, resilience, and the unwavering commitment to serving others. For those seeking inspiration and actionable insights on leadership, personal growth, and overcoming adversity, this episode is a must-listen.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Alignment with God's Plan:
“If there is a God, which we both know there is, and God has a plan for us, there's a difference between a good idea and a God idea. And if you find the God idea for your life and get in alignment to your assignment, things work out a lot better.” — Tim Storey [02:24]
Growth Mindset:
“From 5 to 7, I'll listen to the Bible on tape or I'll watch a sermon or a YouTube video, something that's going to feed my faith and starve my doubt.” — Tim Storey [02:44]
Service and Humility:
“I'm not a preacher. I'm not preaching. I'm telling my story. And my story is when you're in hardship in the neighborhood we were raised...” — Tim Storey [12:21]
Forgive, Forget, Go Forward:
“Forgive, forget, go forward. That's how I roll.” — Tim Storey [50:46]
Boldness in Truth-Telling:
“I just love people enough to tell them the truth.” — Tim Storey [56:15]
Divine Assignment:
“I'm just cooperating with what he's called me to do. And when I say big, Big to me is doing this podcast...” — Tim Storey [27:05]
Overcoming Setbacks:
“David said in Psalm 77, I cried out to God, and he heard me, and he delivered me from all my sorrow.” — Tim Storey [44:14]
Legacy and Family:
“Understand legacy so that they could take the legacy to the next generation.” — Tim Storey [62:38]
Connect with Tim Storey:
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