
This week, we have reached the final episode of our "I Love Lily" series. We’re ending on a CBB World exclusive episode of Lily Sullivan's series; This Book Changed My Life. Lily and friends Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly) and Auggie Silverado (Ben Rodgers) dive into the adventure book "Perseverance" by Preston Lewg-Wheeler.
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Scott Aukerman
Hey everyone. Welcome to another bonus bang where we re release great episodes of Comedy Bang Bang out from behind the paywall. This is your host, Scott Aukerman and we are at the conclusion of our series I love Lily. That's right, we do love Lily. The Lily we're talking about is Lily Sullivan, performer extraordinaire. She does so many wonderful characters on the show. Now we are doing something a little different this week. Usually we release old episodes of Comedy Bang Bang. But this week we are bringing you something a little different. It's another Comedy Bang Bang World exclusive. This is episode 21 of Lily Sullivan's series that she has over there. This book changed my life. Now, basically this series is Lily hosting a book club of sorts with comedians playing readers of the book. And this week Lily invites her friends Dean Fire Firehouse, who's played by Andy Daly and Augie Silverado played by Ben Rogers. And they're going to talk about the book Perseverance by Preston Luke Wheeler. So this is going to be an exciting listen for you if you enjoy this and you want to hear other great episodes of this book changed my life. Or maybe previous episodes of Comedy Bang Bang. Or every single live episode we've ever done of Comedy Bang Bang. Become a subscriber@cbbworld.com every single episode. Over there, the live shows ad free new episodes and original shows like CBB Presents, which you're going to hear today and Scott hasn't seen. We're going to be back Monday with a new episode of Comedy Bang Bang. But until then, enjoy this bonus bang.
Lily Sullivan
Put everything on red, I yell. My sequins dress from Zar is itching. My armpits and my fake eyelashes are only half on. The forced oxygen is pumping through my veins and I feel like Tom Cruise must feel when he risks his life jumping out of a helicopter for the sole purpose of getting an erection. The dealer looks at me, befuddled. I said, all on red, champ. My name is not Champ. My name is Sal, he says. And this is the blackjack table, ma'. Am. Ah, Las Vegas. The City of Lights. There is truly nowhere on earth like it. Where else can you see a father of five betting his daughter's college fund away on a Finding Nemo slot machine? The entire strip is like Dave and Buster's had a baby with a cruise ship and there's no way out. Your days are simple. You spend either $140 on two beers and a French dip by the hotel pool or lose $80 watching a hot robot woman with triple F tits spin the video roulette wheel. Your nights are even better. Three dirty vodka martinis with blue cheese olives and a half eaten filet mignon from the bus tub at Bavette's Steakhouse. If you're lucky, you can see a show. Maybe Penn and Teller will bring you on stage and make jokes about how much you hate your husband. Or you can see Joey Fatone from NSYNC do his latest two and a half hour standup special. Whatever you end up doing, you'll have the time of your life. Is this New York? You'll ask yourself wide eyed at 3am no. Nope. It's just Vegas. After losing $800 on the craps table, you'll head to your hotel room and eat $300 worth of chips from the minibar while watching an old Friends episode. You know, the one where they all hate gay people. Then you'll drift to sleep to the sounds of your neighbors screaming in a way that makes you think they're either having sex or being murdered. Either way, you'll know you had a great time. I pull up my Strapless dress. And I look at my cards. Jackpot. I'm all in, Sal. I push my life savings to the center of the table as he flips my cards. Two threes, he says. House wins. I smile to myself. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Welcome to this book changed my life. I'm your host, Lily Sullivan. And today we are talking about a very, very incredibly special book. Perseverance by little known author Preston Lug Wheeler. I would like to welcome on my first guest. He's somebody who I met vacuuming of all things. We were both at a Best Buy and trying out the vacuums. And I looked over and I said, dyson. And he said, yep, yours. And I said dyson. You know, it's. And we were fast friends ever since. Please welcome on my guest, Dean Firehouse Dean.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Hello, Lily. Wonderful to be here.
Lily Sullivan
So good to see you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's great to see you too. I. I love every time you tell that story about the time we met, it. It has more details to it because I forgot that we were talking about the Dyson. I had been there, you know, I had been there every day for three weeks trying out all of the vacuums.
Lily Sullivan
Yep.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And some of them have handheld, you know, so it's like right. You. You got to. You haven't tried it until you've tried both ways.
Lily Sullivan
That's what I always say too. Like I don't want to just vacuum standing up. I want to vacuum in all positions. And how am I supposed to know which one is the best for me personally without trying them all?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Sure. And I've been a Hoover man since way back. I can't even tell you how long I remember that. Loyal to Hoover. And I very suspicious of new fangled vacuum. I know I got to know all the guys at Best Buy over the time and. Well, you rem. Cherry. She went yes. Or I don't know if it was cherry or cherry.
Lily Sullivan
I think it was cherry. Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
She got real mad.
Lily Sullivan
She did. Well, you. I mean you were spending all day there every day for a very long time.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. She started what she started calling me was a deadbeat. And she started saying, you're never gonna buy a vacuum cleaner. Well, she doesn't know me very well.
Lily Sullivan
She doesn't know because lo and behold, of course you did buy a vacuum.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I did.
Lily Sullivan
Finally online.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I did.
Lily Sullivan
From a different store.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, yeah, sure. I found a store, small store in Colorado that does refurbished Hoovers.
Lily Sullivan
Right, right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And that was. I ended up with a good 1975 Hoover superplex.
Lily Sullivan
Yes. You know what it reminds me of. Do you ever listen to that? This American Life where someone's talking about, like, how they want to buy a couch and they couldn't decide on a couch to buy?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I have. I've heard that very story that you're referring to.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. That is you to me. Like, you are so particular and you want to make sure you're buying the best purchase. I mean, I've been to your house. You have no furniture.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, I don't have. For heaven's sake. How do you decide on anything?
Lily Sullivan
I know.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And to tell you the truth, it doesn't. The thing about furniture is it just gets in the way of. Of straightening up.
Lily Sullivan
Right. I mean, well, you're. Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I mean, your place is Polish floors in Southern California.
Lily Sullivan
That's what you always say.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. I advertise my house that way. I give tours. You know, I give tours.
Lily Sullivan
I know. I. I've come on one of them. I've come to see the house. Yeah. For the listener that if you don'. So you can go to Dean Firehouse's house.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Lily Sullivan
Which is, I mean, funny.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Not a firehouse. I got a lot of that. I know half of my Yelp reviews are this was not a firehouse.
Lily Sullivan
And I think the other half are, why the hell did I do this? It's just a tour of a house with no furniture.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Of an empty house with no furniture. And you know, it's true. I don't have a lot of positive Yelp reviews.
Lily Sullivan
No.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
On the tour, but.
Lily Sullivan
But you do have a lot of reviews, which I feel like, you know, no news. I mean. Sorry. All bad news is good news.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I don't let them leave without that. They've been on Yelp and left a review.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You can't leave.
Lily Sullivan
Well, Right. Because then you get held in your basement, which oddly has more furniture than upstairs.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But none of that is, like, furniture I'm proud of.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's all in one way or another. I'm ashamed of every piece down there.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. You call it the shame layer.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Yeah. It's just a room full of. Just chock full of terrible memor. Everything in there was a mistake or something. That left over from a horrible relationship.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, I was gonna say so. I mean, most of the time, I think you moved all the furniture down there after the divorce. Is that right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, that's right. Every single piece of furniture reminded me of my darling wife who just had enough of me.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, she did. She left the state, Right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, yeah. I mean, I could I. If I tried to track her down, I. There's no way, all right? I've tried to track her.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, you have. I remember.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And I can't be done.
Lily Sullivan
It can't? No, she's. She's gotten rid of her cell phone. She's gotten rid of her car.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Lily Sullivan
She's gotten rid of.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I mean, I've told her fingerprints, and I don't. I have no idea if this is even possible. I'm told she's changed her ethnicity.
Lily Sullivan
That can't be.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It can't be right? I've heard it from two sources.
Lily Sullivan
Like she did in Ariana Grande.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What is that? Is that. What did she.
Lily Sullivan
She. Rachel dozed herself, essentially. But no one calls her out for it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, wait a minute. I don't know anything.
Lily Sullivan
She's just a white girl.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay. Ariana Grande.
Lily Sullivan
But, you know, she has enough Tanner that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, I see. People question dangerousness. What? I understand my darling Marjorie moved to Thailand and now she's Thai.
Lily Sullivan
Well, that just can't be. I mean.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I. I've heard it from two people.
Lily Sullivan
Well, either way, Dean, your business is booming. I mean, people still come for some reason to go see your house. Like, you're doing good. You're doing better, at least than the last time I saw you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, thank you very much. What was the. When was the last time I saw you? Wasn't I. Wasn't I starting that coffee cart business?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. You were selling coffee and dog treats.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
And no one was buying either.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I guess that's true. I gave away a lot of free samples. Sort of. Sort of. You know what I mean?
Lily Sullivan
Yes.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Get people hooked on both.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, I guess you're right. That it wasn't. Yeah. They weren't buying it.
Lily Sullivan
They weren't buying.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Point. Good point.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Huh. That's interesting.
Lily Sullivan
You were in good spirits, though.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I hadn't thought about. But you're right. Actually, I think I never sold a cup of coffee off of that thing.
Lily Sullivan
But you did give away a lot of dog treats.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
A lot of dog treats. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what.
Lily Sullivan
Huh?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I. Because I said I was very clear. These dog treats are made human grade.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I always say human grade.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I've. I saw a number of times somebody take a dog treat and walk away and eat it themselves.
Lily Sullivan
No.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
No times.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Many times.
Lily Sullivan
Well, I mean. And they weren't really human grade, were they?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No, of course not.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
For Christ's sake. Why would I waste good money? You know what I mean?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I'm making These at home from just, what, knickknacks? And whatever I find around odds and ends.
Lily Sullivan
I know, I know. I mean, you're not a chef. I know that about you. That.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Hell, no.
Lily Sullivan
No.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Nope. I do have a kitchen. Do have a functioning kitchen.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, you do. Your kitchen actually has probably the most furniture of any room in the house.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. I guess if you can think of a stove as furniture. But I'll boil some water on there. You know what I mean?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. But most of it. Mostly it's grubhub.
Lily Sullivan
You are the forever bachelor in my brain now, you know? Well, let's talk about the book, Dean.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Perseverance.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What?
Lily Sullivan
A book by Preston Lou Guiler. You brought me this book?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
And I have to say, I was blown away.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You were.
Lily Sullivan
I was blown away.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Have you read adventure books before?
Lily Sullivan
No, not up until this point. And honestly, I think about it like. It's like a lot of men read these kinds of books, but not a lot of women.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Like, okay, I suppose you're right.
Lily Sullivan
It's just like a. Like a fascinating tale into this disaster, essentially. Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep. Well, now, if you're. If you like this adventure book. It's a whole section of the bookstore of adventure books. And it's one thing after I tell you I read a new one just about every week. I've yet to read one about an adventure that went even okay. Yeah, they're all terrible.
Lily Sullivan
It seems like they all go badly. I guess you don't write a book about it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, I guess that's it. I mean, I am at the point now where I wouldn't mind reading an adventure book. Where we set out. We set sail and accomplished what we set out to accomplish, and everyone came back alive.
Lily Sullivan
Exactly.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I guess it'd be short, but I.
Lily Sullivan
I think about that all the time. Like, with the Titanic. Like, I'm sick of, like, these sad Titanic stories. Like, oh, yeah, why not have a book like that Imagines the Titanic arriving in one piece?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What are we. Oh, well, that's a whole other genre. What if they just. What if. What if the Titanic didn't sink?
Lily Sullivan
That's what the History Channel is made for.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Is that what they're doing over there now?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, I got.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I changed my package. I went from Dish over to this fella by the name of Charles, and he's. I can't get history anymore.
Lily Sullivan
Wait, so Charles does. Charles gets the cable all hooked up for you? Is that what you mean?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, he brought his own Dish over, he says.
Lily Sullivan
So it's Just a plate.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What?
Lily Sullivan
It's just a plate.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's on the roof, as far as I know. He came in and he said, what are you paying Dish for? I'll hook it up for you. And I've got. He says, I've got my own business and whatever he calls it. I see him from time to time and I try to flag him. Hey, I. Mainly, what I wanted was history.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I can't get enough of those World War II planes. But I tell him anyway. I pay him a monthly bill. And I do get some. Some channel.
Lily Sullivan
Which channels do you get?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I get. It's mostly Charles.
Lily Sullivan
This is his channel.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, he broadcasts out of the basement, but it's local interest and very religious. Very religious.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, that's good too. I love that. Well, yeah, I mean, this book. Okay, so it centers around one man on his adventure into the deep sea.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Into the deep sea, that's right. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
On this ship, the Perseverance.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep. It was a beautiful giant ship that was intended to go submarine as well as to sail upon the waves.
Lily Sullivan
Yes, exactly. It's a. To a twofold thing.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's a. What did they call it?
Lily Sullivan
That's what they called it. Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
They called it a marine submarine.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Boat. And so it was meant to, meant, meant to sail. And then at a moment's notice, because, I mean, a sailship up with the main sails and all that. And then at a moment's notice, under the waves. And it was. He had developed it for the British military, 1920s. And this was the prophetically named Byron will drown. And he was.
Lily Sullivan
Byron will drown. That's right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Lily Sullivan
That is. That is the story. This is the story of Byron. Will. Will drown.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. And. And it turns out. Well, that's a spoiler. He drowned.
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Lily Sullivan
But I do want to bring on our next guest because I feel like we have so much to dive into about the perseverance. This is somebody who I met on the pickleball courts. We were smacking around the ball, and I turned over and I saw somebody playing with a bunch of old people, and he was absolutely whooping their asses. And I thought, that's. That's a cool cat. And we ended up chatting over some lemonade afterwards. Please welcome my dear friend Augie Silverado. Augie.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Hey.
Lily Sullivan
So good to see you.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's great to be here. Thanks for asking me. It's good to see you not in sweats.
Lily Sullivan
I'm not depressed anymore. I'm doing much better. Yeah. I got dressed up for you guys, by the way. You, of course, know Dean. You guys are old friends.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Indeed.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Good to see you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Nice to see you. I did not know you were. Had gotten into pickleball.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm doing pickleball now because it's. It's new for me.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Because it's a new sport, and I want to get involved in the new things. And it doesn't take a lot of movement, but if you got a little bit of spriage, do you. You can really take down all these people out there.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. Because, I mean, the people you were playing with when I saw were, like, in their 90s. You're, of course, in your 70s.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
76.
Lily Sullivan
76. Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And, you know, the pickleball court is. It's different than where I came from, which, of course, is state prison.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. No pickleball. No pickleballs. Not yet, anyway.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No.
Lily Sullivan
I feel like there should be like.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm gonna bring it back.
Lily Sullivan
I'm gonna bring it in.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Huh? Yeah. And we met, you know, When I. There was a period of time where I was. I lived so close to the state prison.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right. You would come by.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I would come by and say, who hasn't had a visitor in a while?
Lily Sullivan
I think you'd your coffee and your dog treats, which was offensive in a way. The dog treats for the prisoners.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, well, you think that. You think. You think. You would think it would be. But it Actually, I would get those dog treats, and they would make my day. They would. They would make my day. And you bite into them, and they're full of little. He. He would put little prizes in them.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. He would put pieces of cloth.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I remember they got me in a world of trouble.
Lily Sullivan
It's like those. You guys know, they do this in, like, in Greek culture, and I think they do in English, in England as well. But they put, you know, if you get the little piece of cloth in. In the cake, or if you get the coin in the spani kopita. Good luck. It's good luck.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And you. You look at the little cloth and you think, maybe there's a message in here from Dean. And you look at. Twirl it around, around, and it's nothing. And then you say to yourself, oh, I guess it's one of those good luck charts, right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's funny you say that because it was just. I thought of it as filler. You know what I mean?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Okay. All right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Just stretching the batter.
Lily Sullivan
You were wood chips, A lot of wood chips.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. When you're inside, you. You tend to look into things a little bit too much. So it was filler to you. And Tamika was a good luck charm prize.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, that's funny. Well, anyway, I would give them the dog treat, say, hey, you're going to get out someday. And when you do, you might want a dog. Hang on to the treat. I'm never guessing. These prisoners were eating the darn things.
Lily Sullivan
Well, I'm sure it's better than the food in prison, to be honest. Like.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, it actually was not. It was. They fed us well there. Yeah. They gave us good. We had one good chef in there.
Lily Sullivan
Wow.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Steve. He was a master chef.
Lily Sullivan
He was on MasterChef.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He was on Master Chef. He had one Master Chef.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You're kidding me.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. He ended up inside.
Lily Sullivan
That's incredible.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Foul stuff.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I had no idea.
Lily Sullivan
I'm not really. I'm more of a Top Chef gal, you know?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Padma, Tom. Colicchio. Gil.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Of course. Yeah. Gil.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I don't get it anymore. On tv, I don't get the Top Chef for that or chop. Boy, I love chop.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I miss chop. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
I love chopped.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, I don't get that.
Lily Sullivan
I mean, you were essentially playing chopped every day that you were making those dog treats. I suppose I was like, what do I have today?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What do I have today? Some gravel from the driveway. Can I make it any smaller? Yes. Grind it up with a hammer and no one will even know.
Lily Sullivan
Right. You guys, this book, Perseverance by Preston Luke Wheeler, about our man Byron will drown.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Admiral Byron will drown.
Lily Sullivan
What was your favorite part of reading this book? Because obviously it's about a tragedy.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
But there's so much more to the book and the story ahead of that said tragedy. I can start with my favorite part. I thought. I thought it was so interesting. When we met Byron, he was at like a. Basically like a retreat for billionaires.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
And they were having kind of like a Kumbaya circle, and I just never thought billionaires would do that, and I really liked that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, it made me feel good, too, because, you know, inside people, believe it or not, there isn't much of a Kumbaya vibe.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, there's nothing you're saying generally in people general.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. In general, huh? Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
People at their core are. Are angry.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They're angry. Particularly in prison. They're. They'll say some terrible stuff to you, and you will wind up saying terrible stuff. So it's refreshing to read it in a book.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You know, you're so used to saying stuff like. Like calling people and stuff, and for sure, you're seeing a bunch of millionaires and billionaires playing guitars and bongos.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, they were. It was sort of communal living way ahead of its time. In the 1920s, he was up there in the. Up in the fields of England, I suppose North England was that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I didn't even know that was a thing back then.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, he was. They were way ahead. I mean, these are the innovators of their age and the captains of industry.
Lily Sullivan
And I didn't even know that there were billionaires in the 1920s.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, yeah, no, they didn't talk about it much.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You know, you had to get. To get a billion dollars together in 1920. You had to be a son of.
Lily Sullivan
You really did. You really did.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. So I, I.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You know, actually, in prison, you got to be kind of a son of a. To get really anything. The find the economic system in there, really. A box of cereal is the equivalent of a billionaire in some ways.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, really?
Lily Sullivan
Wow.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Depending on the cereal.
Lily Sullivan
So you're just like. Like Rice Krispie treats, like, you'd be rich.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Oh, Rice Krispie treats through the roof.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I remember you were always asking me for shoelaces. Next time you come, bring me some sho.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I know. You never did.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I never did. I thought, what are they going to do with them shoelaces?
Lily Sullivan
What were you going to do with those shoelaces?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, to be honest with you, I was going to kill myself.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's what I was.
Lily Sullivan
I knew it. I knew it. You're giving me all this shit about being depressed. Like, I remember you, like when you were down on your lucky.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Like, I was doing bad.
Lily Sullivan
Well, you tell the listener what you did to get yourself in prison.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yes. Well, basically, wrong place, wrong time. I was a groundskeeper at a camp.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Summer camp.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Summer camp. Kids summer camp. All the kids got murdered.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
How Many?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
There were 13. They were smoking reefer. And the camp was over, and I was the last guy to see him. And they landed the blame on me.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Now, luckily, this is the end of the summer. All the campers have gone home.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They're partying. I told them. I told them it's a bad vibe because I have. I get feelings sometimes and. And I was just getting a feeling in the air. I was like, bad vibes, right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yes.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And. And you guys know that about me. I'll tell you, like, stay inside today.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
You're like, it's too nice to be outside, right?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, yeah. You've told me a few times. Specifically, don't go down to the reservoir today. You know what's going down to the reservoir?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I just get these feelings. You're like, don't go down there. There's going to be stuff released. So. Yeah. Somebody killed all these kids. Holy DNA got me off.
Lily Sullivan
Well, yeah. Eventually, yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
The police showed up. They found 13 dead bodies and one living body. And that was you?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It was me.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I can see you.
Lily Sullivan
I mean, you were. To be fair, you were just sitting there like, you didn't even call anyone for help. You were just.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, I was shocked. And. And the whole thing was because I'm the groundskeeper. I'm thinking, how am I going to clean up this mess?
Lily Sullivan
Right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, that's.
Lily Sullivan
You're overwhel by the mess. You know, we've never talked about this. That you guys are so bonded by how much you love to clean, like, and organize, you know, like, you're two of my, like, cleanest guy friends that I have.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Really?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's nice to hear.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
The. Well.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You'Ll come by the House. Sometime he just.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'll come by and sometimes I see.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Him just looking in through the window sometimes and he's just wide eyed with amazement at how sparse the area is.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I get. Because I'm a bit of a pack at. Now that I'm outside.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And, and so I get jealous at the sparseness of it. I keep it clean.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I keep it clean.
Lily Sullivan
It's clean. Hoarding.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's very clean and organized. Organized sorting tag everything.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I remember they DNA exonerated you.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
DNA got me off. DNA got me off.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And oh.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And now unfortunately the DNA also pegged me for a couple other things.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, it did.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. But it got me off of what I was in there for.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Did they find the person to kill those? They're still looking for. Holy macaroni. I don't like to hear that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's still out there. Don't go. The camp vibe is. I know that granted that was a long time ago, but it was, it was. It still am found and they ever reopened that camp. Yeah. They're planning on a reopening at this summer.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Holy wow.
Lily Sullivan
Spooky. You guys. What was your favorite part of the book?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, well, I very much appreciated the. When he set off to explore Greenland.
Lily Sullivan
Yes.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Which had already by that point been fully explored and mapped and settled long since.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
So in a sense, you know, they called it Will drowns Folly because he was, he was setting off to sort of, you know, a self styled explorer with nothing to explore. And that was really the, the mockery that he took at home in the press from that was, was really the thing that, that I think made him push the envelope, you know.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And, and, and experiment with his, his ship before it was quite ready.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Seems like.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. He decided to really prove something to the press because of what they were saying about him.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep, yep. And he put together a crew of 100% journalists at the time.
Lily Sullivan
It was a really a ragtag bunch, wasn't it?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, that's what it was. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
It was a ragtag, A ragtag bunch of journalists. Which one of them was from of course, Fox News. The.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Early equivalent of that.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. Which was. Yeah, I don't think many people know that Fox News actually started in the 1920s. It wasn't a TV station at the time, but it was, it was a coloring book. Like a coloring book magazine.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Rupert Murdoch, the first put that together. Yes, he began it and now we're dealing with his offspring.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
The first Rupert Murdoch was a bit of a coloring genius and not so Much worrying about the colors. But the layout of shapes next to other shapes, you know, that's a separate podcast, I suppose. But the. The. I mean, you look at some of those blocks he put in those early magazines. That. Pretty. Pretty.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He made the coloring books.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
But you say he didn't. He didn't concern himself with the colors so much.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No, no. When you look at the color. Because. Because you, you know, the person who buys them colors him in, so.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Quite possibly colorblind is what the theory is.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
From some people.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I always imagine with a coloring book that there is a sort of a platonic ideal of how each page. You know what I mean? And that some. Somewhere, someone has done it. But maybe that's not the case. Now, if you're putting the coloring book out there and you yourself have not color it, and you don't know if it can be colored, I think that's irresponsible.
Lily Sullivan
I think so, too. I think that's dangerous.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Now you'll meet some really scary fellows inside who will demand that you color coloring book one specific way, as you suggest. Now, these guys really. I mean, they will get on you fast if you. If you paint somebody's. If, let's say Santa Claus.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Okay.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I think we all have an image in our mind.
Lily Sullivan
I know what I'm thinking. Big white beard.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's what I'm thinking.
Lily Sullivan
Red suit, big black belt.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yes. Now, let's say you paint that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Not paint. Are we talking about crayons?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
We're talking about.
Lily Sullivan
We're not talking about paint by number here, are we?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Good luck getting a paint by number inside the jacket.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
The number of times you asked me. Please. Some lead based paints.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yes.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yes. Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
What were you gonna do with all that lead?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I mean, do I have to spell it out for you?
Lily Sullivan
What were you gonna do?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's a slow way to go, my friend.
Lily Sullivan
Come on, Augie.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They can't pick up on it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They can't figure it out. You just get sicker and sicker. You wind up. And you wind up in the hospital, and then you can get out.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The hospital is just a pipeline to freedom.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
So easy to get out. You see, what you do is you dress. You get in the hospital, then you dress up like a doctor.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Doctor. Okay.
Lily Sullivan
Yep.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And that's real easy. All you need is one of them white coats.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Now, which brings us back to. Let's say you're coloring a doctor's coat. Okay. Supposed to be white and better be white. Yeah. Well, what if you color it purple. Yeah. There. You're losing an eyeball, my friend.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay, I get it. There's certain fellas in jail, prison that want to see something colored a specific way.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
It's a pretty serious thing. And at the time in this book, I mean, this was a very serious, like, situation, having one of the Fox News's only journalists, one of the primary inventors of the coloring book on this ship. Like, if we lost this person, that's a big deal to Fox News, you know?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Would Fox News be what it is today without that person?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Right. I mean. Well, I mean, consequently, it's the most well documented trip on a ship. Ship ever.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Because those who did survive were all 100 talented writers or comic book designers and coloring book. What did I say? I said comic books.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
There was one comic book.
Lily Sullivan
There was a comic book guy, right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, there was. Yeah. But he was half mad.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He was half mad. Yeah. Well, what was the other half? Crazy.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's right, man.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Sometimes you're rooting for somebody to die in one of these books, you know?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That guy really got under my skin as a reader. But he's, as far as I know, still alive.
Lily Sullivan
Amen.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He's still living. He's still kicking. He's over 100 now.
Lily Sullivan
There's a lot of people, actually, from the perseverance who are still alive, most of the journalists. But of course not. Byron will drown.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Nope. He drowned.
Lily Sullivan
Can you. Dean, you can't keep giving away the ending, I'm sure. Okay. Because we're going to get to the spoiler section and then we're going to find out that Byron will drown. Drowned. Drowned.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay. I beg your pardon. You can edit it out anytime.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, Brett, we can edit that out.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Just edit that one.
Lily Sullivan
Just edit out 3, 2, 1.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He didn't drown. 3, 2, or I won't mention. Yeah, that helps. Okay, if the listener could just fast forward.
Lily Sullivan
So, okay. Yeah. So, guys, fast Forward right now.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
3, 2, 1. Hello? But different topic. 3, 2, 1. Perfect.
Lily Sullivan
All right, let's talk about our favorite parts of the book.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
But what? Huh? Okay.
Lily Sullivan
But it worked. Brett knows what he's doing. He's actually. He took a class recently and he's gotten a little better.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Good for you.
Lily Sullivan
For a while, he was being really bad at it.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Classes. Taking classes. You got to hold your whole life out of you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Trying to start over. You took that podcast editing courses. The Pasadena Community College. Yeah, I. You know, I'm auditing it.
Lily Sullivan
Are you?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Huh?
Lily Sullivan
Oh, my God.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Good work.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You're auditing it? Yeah, I'm auditing it. They don't want you to you. They want you to pay for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lily Sullivan
But you're auditing it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, to make sure that finances.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No, he's going to teach his own class. He wants to see how much money there is in.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, I see.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
All right. Get your head square. Get your head screwed on, Jack.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, Jack, get your head screwed on.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You audit a college class by just going in for free and sitting there and not getting a grade. Now, as it happens, I'm also auditing the professor.
Lily Sullivan
And I don't think we talked about how you're also.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I am an auditor. I have been self deputized by the Internal Revenue Service to look over the books of people that interest me.
Lily Sullivan
That's right. It's all just based on your own self interest and whatever you want.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
As a free agent of the irs, I'm able to look into the books of people that interest me. From what.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And that's a huge honor, being able to self deputize. Not a lot of people can do that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, that's true. I. I have self authorized myself to set. Deputize myself. Various government agents.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, the listener maybe needs to know a little bit more about your. Your background, Dean.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Sure.
Lily Sullivan
Obviously we know what you do now. Your house tours. And obviously you're still auditing and all that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep. And I still have the coffee cart.
Lily Sullivan
That's right. But before that you were in. You were an agent.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, I was an agent of the. People get so mad when I talk about it because it was a bureau set up a federal agency to promote cruelty to animals. And people get so mad.
Lily Sullivan
Right, right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You know, it was the American Society for Unethical. Unethical Harm. Someone's got to do it. Treatment of animals. Because the idea being that if you're too kind to, you know, stray cats. Stray tortoises.
Lily Sullivan
Stray tortoises. One of the worst.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, a lot of people inside had a problem because you were testing some of these experiments out on the prisoners.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay, well, now we're gonna get into that. I don't. You know. Well, I did a lot of nice things for the prisoners.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
There's a lot of psychological stuff that you would be doing to these. It was.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
This is the point. If you're gonna. If you feed a squirrel, let's say. Yeah, that squirrel's gonna come back and back and they're gonna have babies. And then there's gonna be too many goddamn squirrels.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
If you defeat opossum Same thing if you feed a cat. It's a. That doesn't matter. Fill in the animal.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
If you're nice to one of these animals, it'll only make them reproduce more and more and will be overrun with whatever it is, raccoons or something like. This was a federal program to get people to. The opposite of be nice to a squirrel.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Can you get close enough to kick it?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Can you throw something? Yeah. Can you shoot it and. Or any sort of aversion, sort of a technique to say you're not welcome.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And those were the ones, the psychological ones, that I initiated a program in the prisons.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It would do it in prisons. It was.
Lily Sullivan
You were brainwashing prisoners pretty much. Basically.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I don't call it that.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. You were. You were going in and you were having your talks, your conferences.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He would give these big conferences to all the prison. They would show up.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, it's a captive audience, I tell you.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. They were forced to go. Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And he would talk in a real low voice. So we had to get real close to him. And we would come right in and he would have cupcakes and stuff set up. And they weren't for us, House.
Lily Sullivan
They were just for him. You guys got the dog treats.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Did you have your agency credentials by the dog treats? Maybe that's.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Of course.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Maybe that's why people didn't buy.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Of course he did. Screw your head on, Jack.
Lily Sullivan
Screw your head on Jack.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, this. Well, part of the reason I make dog treats is to make it up to the animals of the world. I don't work for that agency anymore. They just.
Lily Sullivan
You a lot of making up to do.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I don't know. It was important work at the time. And now I feel badly about it because we really did scare a lot of animals, I'll tell you. But. Yeah, part of the process. Draw them in.
Lily Sullivan
Yep.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And then unleash on them was what we. Was what I was working on.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
The prisoners.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Here come. You know, hey, everybody gather around. Because I had a sore throat. I can't talk too late.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And everybody comes in making fun of our haircuts.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And. Yeah. My goal was, when I walk into the jail, I want everybody to scurry away from me right into the corners of the building. And I got there eventually.
Lily Sullivan
Well, I would say, too, like, it's harder to realize when somebody's, like, insulting you. And it's like a low tone like that. You know, the way that he talks that intimate low tone.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
We can't reproduce in jail. Like. Like The. The whole point of the program seems to be so the world won't get run.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, it's an experiment. A monkey's not going to put on mascara. But. But you try it out on the monkey.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You know what I'm saying?
Lily Sullivan
And the monkey might look good.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Have you ever seen a picture of a monkey in mascara?
Lily Sullivan
I honestly have, and so hot.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I beat a guy up good to get a picture of a monkey with mascara on inside.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I mean, that was a hot commodity that I was in the hole for a long time because of that one.
Lily Sullivan
But it was monkey.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It would be huge.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Huge. Oh, yeah. One of them gorilla type monkeys.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. I guess chimp. I guess it was chimpanzees don't get into that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I don't do that whole thing.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, you had to.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
If it's a. If it looks like a monkey, it's a monkey. I don't care how big it is.
Lily Sullivan
You're the one who said gorilla.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's what. It's a gorilla type of monkey. That size.
Lily Sullivan
But it's a monkey, chimpanzee type of monkey.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay, don't get into that. That anytime somebody. I say, here comes an alligator, somebody says, that's a crocodile, I want to push him in the water. Yeah, what's the goddamn difference?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I gotta call you out. You just echoing what you hear heard on Charlie's TV station.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, all right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You don't have Animal Planet anymore, Charlie. Oh, you sound like. I feel like I'm talking to Charlie right now.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Guilty as charged. That is one of Charlie's bugo.
Lily Sullivan
The perseverance.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
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Lily Sullivan
You guys, what was your favorite part of the book?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I already told you. The Greenland part. What's your favorite part?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Oh, I like, probably when they got frozen when Byron and, you know, I don't know who saw it because they claim he was alone. But then it's. How do they know?
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
When they got frozen and he had to make his own playing cards to make. To play solitary.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Salt hair.
Lily Sullivan
And he used his own fingers.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He used his fingers and. Because his fingers would freeze off and then he would nibble little symbols in the fingers.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And then he would stack them up. And now the thing is, how do you play solitaire with three fingers worth of cards? I don't know. And I would love to know. And these are some of the mysteries that haunt us about the perseverance.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And it also reminds you when you're. And because, you know, this book saved my. You know, changed my life. But. But this book saved my life.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Wow.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You know, I'm inside and I'm. I'm getting depressed.
Lily Sullivan
Yep.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And some. And the books they got inside are wizard books.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Wizard books.
Lily Sullivan
Harry Potter.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You got wizard books. I don't want to.
Lily Sullivan
Harry Potter.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
It's the only wizard book I know that exists.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They got all the wizard books. They got which one?
Lily Sullivan
Star Stone.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, they got Harry. They got. They got. Boy. Boise. Boise. The Wizard.
Lily Sullivan
I don't know that one. I've never heard of that one. Yeah, that sounds me.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
How about the wizard of Oz? That was a book, wasn't it?
Lily Sullivan
Oh, yeah. I guess that's a wizard wizard book.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's the second wizard book.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They got a whole Boise series. Now that I think about when I.
Lily Sullivan
Talk about the Boise series.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I like the part, too, where their extremities were frozen and turned the fingers into playing cards. And you're right. That we. I don't know how they played solitaire with that few cards.
Lily Sullivan
And we'll never know.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And we'll never know.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, it also, you know, who figured that out, Right? One of the journalists must have been there, right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You can play solitaire with one card. How, Brett? If it's an ace, you win. I play that all the time.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, my God. Sometimes he's so sad. It's honestly so devastating.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Son of a bitch, that works.
Lily Sullivan
Can you edit that part out, Brett? Can you?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
3, 2, 1. Brett doesn't play solitaire.
Lily Sullivan
Thank God that's gone. My favorite part, I think, was when they got stuck in the desert. You know, they make it. They make the ship get on land finally, and they dock in the desert.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
They had to modify it to be a land vehicle.
Lily Sullivan
Right. Which was incredible, given they went to the deep sea. They went, obviously, to the frozen Antarctica, and then they find themselves, themselves docking on to the desert, and they're all so thirsty, so tired. They have no fingers or toes left. And they just managed to, you know, essentially build shelter out of just sand.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And this is 18 years into the journey as well.
Lily Sullivan
Yes.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
So they've been. And everyone gave them up for dead a long time ago. You know, and little. Little do people know they're out there making their own shelters in the desert.
Lily Sullivan
They are. And that's how adobe was invented.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yep. And that was something I learned from the book is I knew nothing about adobe.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And I didn't know the history of it. I, I, you know, I felt like a sandcastle is a sandcastle.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
But no. And they had complicated structures in the desert.
Lily Sullivan
Yep.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They had various floors. They had stuff you don't.
Lily Sullivan
Elevators.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They had elevators, which I. I wasn't even sure.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Outrageous.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They had landing pads. And I read it, and I thought, what? Landing. Landing.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
They were not thinking straight a lot of the time.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Because the way the adobe came about, if I recall, is one of the fellows says, we got to make an igloo. We're freezing to death right here. Next thing you know, they're trying to fashion an igloo out of sand. Next thing you know, it worked. Next thing you know, they're building second and third stories.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And figuring out how to get a goddamned elevator up there.
Lily Sullivan
Unbelievable.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Unbelievable. A lot of wasted effort, in my view.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, they went a little crazy, see.
Lily Sullivan
Well, they did. They went a little cuckoo by the time they were out there in the desert for that long. I mean, they were there for 20 years.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
20 years. And, well, it took them 18 years to get to the desert, and then they were in the desert for a further 20.
Lily Sullivan
So we're talking like we're in the mid-60s at this point, aren't we?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
God knows. God knows.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Listen, I'm just a humble groundskeeper. I. I didn't do the math. Math? Yeah, the. Because it's all. I mean, the world now is crazy to me.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I mean, we got Roombas and doors that open.
Lily Sullivan
You know, it's interesting that you never considered getting a Roomba Dean.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh.
Lily Sullivan
For your house.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Huh? Why would anyone do that? Do you know what these things do? They learn your. It's a goddamn robot that learns your house.
Lily Sullivan
What's the big deal if it knows the layout of your house? Like, how. What is the government going to do with that information?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You know, I know exactly what the government's going to do. Do with that information. Are you kidding me?
Lily Sullivan
What?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
They're going to come in and hide stuff in your house?
Lily Sullivan
What do you mean?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Like, he's got a point. I didn't think of that.
Lily Sullivan
What would they even.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Where do you think comes from, sweetheart?
Lily Sullivan
Don't call me sweetheart. You guys, honestly, you're lucky that I'm having you both on. Yeah, two senior white guys. Like you're fudgeing lucky. Like you're on today.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Please, you've told that before. I. I bet.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm sorry about that. Missy.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, no, Augie, what did we say about missy? No deer, okay? No missy, no sweetie, no honey.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Right?
Lily Sullivan
No honey.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
All right, good.
Lily Sullivan
No baby. But you can call Brad any of those.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
All right?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
All right. All right, baby, It's a compliment.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Where do you think Black Moon comes from? Sweetheart? It's the government. And they. They map your house with these goddamn robot vacuum cleaners, and then they put it in a place where they know you don't look very often.
Lily Sullivan
Why did they want you to have black mold?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, because it messes with your mind.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It messes.
Lily Sullivan
All right, sport, you get the. Yeah, yeah. All right. Punk.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's the same reason that the Romans made everyone. Gave everyone lead poisoning with the viaduct.
Lily Sullivan
I don't want this to be conspiracy theory hour with you two. Seriously. I knew we were getting close between how much History Channel you guys used to watch mixed with.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Are you defecating in your diaper right now?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Why did you. Three, two, one. No, I'm not. Not. Why did you say that?
Lily Sullivan
It sounds like Brett edit that out. Okay, two, one.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I didn't defecate.
Lily Sullivan
They sound sad enough on this episode. We can't have.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
They're gonna hear that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It just sounds. The amount of. The amount of strain it took to get that out. I knew something was going on. I know what that sounds like.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Gee whiz. You're not supposed to mention it when you see it happening.
Lily Sullivan
Guys, stay on topic.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Fine. What's my favorite part?
Lily Sullivan
You already said your favorite part.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Should we talk about how the survivors got discovered finally?
Lily Sullivan
Yes. Let's talk about the ending. Spoiler alert section.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Okay. It smells so bad.
Lily Sullivan
Guys, please keep it together.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You don't like the smell? You don't like the smell?
Lily Sullivan
Jack. See? You call him Jack.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Why do you keep screaming in my face? Smells fine.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You're my kid, Jack.
Lily Sullivan
Guys, please. All right. Jesus Christ. Spoilers that. So if the listener. If you haven't read the book yet, you're going to want to turn off your laptop or iPhone. We're going to talk about the ending. So obviously this is a well known story, but the perseverance. They after the desert. They've been living in the desert for 20 years. Since 1960, I think. 1962. From there they finally get discovered in one of the least likely places I would have expected them to get discovered with the ship. Which of course was. Do you guys want to say it?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Dallas.
Lily Sullivan
Dallas.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Lily Sullivan
Airport Dulles.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. Dulles and Dulles, Fort Worth.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
In Dallas Fort Worth.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep. The Dulles Fort Worth airport, which is in Dallas Fort Worth.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And you know the overlap. And this maybe gets into Charles territory a little bit. Who turned me onto the book. Speaking of.
Lily Sullivan
Oh my God. You've been watching Charles do. I didn't realize.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. He installed my case table.
Lily Sullivan
The Jesus Christ.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Now. 1962. Flat go. 1960. You go a couple more months. 1963. Who goes to Dallas?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Who goes to Dallas?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Who doesn't leave Dallas?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
John Connelly.
Lily Sullivan
That's right. I guess. Is there some conspiracy theory?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. John Connolly got assassinated in Dallas.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Governor of Texas. He was the real target. Anyway.
Lily Sullivan
Anyway. So the. The perseverance team. The. So they obviously. The boat has gone from being a sailboat into a submarine, into being on land as a car.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
A desert Rover.
Lily Sullivan
Desert Rover. And then of course, they find a way to make it into an airplane. They fly it over. They land at Dulles airplane airport in Dallas airport area, which from the.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I believe it was the Sahara, where they were.
Lily Sullivan
Right.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And they flew direct, which is a long flight, very long flight, and landed at Dulles Airport. 1962. The whole world is getting ready for the assassination of John F. Kennedy. They didn't know.
Lily Sullivan
They didn't know it was gonna happen. Dean. Not everyone thought that was gonna happen. That's not fair.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Honey, wake up and smell the good.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Even this. I gotta say, Lily, you're. You know.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, my God, Brad, truly, if you're in a. Lily. There's too many white guys in this room. It's. It's honestly, like, brain damage central. Like, I don't know what. Who's rotting all your.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Are you a chef? Will, off your eyes. All right, Those. Those big brown eyes. Get the wool off of them.
Lily Sullivan
Don't talk about my body.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You're not allowed to talk about anything about what she looks like. I've tried it. I've tried it and tried it.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. We had to have our own seminar, our own workshop, which I wish you would have attended. Augie, about what you can and can't say nowadays. All right. Welcome to 2023.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They got mad. They wouldn't let me come in with my. My hockey mask.
Lily Sullivan
Why were you wearing that with your hockey mask?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I was coming from hockey.
Lily Sullivan
You could have taken off the helmet. I just said, it's not. I wouldn't let him in. I just said, I don't want you wearing that in. In the room. I think it's distracting. I want people to. Mainly you two. Because literally no one else was there to really hear me out.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That is the bloodiest goddamn hockey mask caked in blood.
Lily Sullivan
Why is it so bloody? What were you doing?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's a rough sport. I mean, have you ever played hockey?
Lily Sullivan
I mean, he's, like, drenched in blood.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, well, I'm my team's enforcer. I don't have this skill. I mean, that's why I like to blow off steam on the pickleball court.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You wear that mask during pickleball?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
He's wearing it all the time. Like, you could clean it in between games.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm superstitious. If I clean it, I'll lose my mojo.
Lily Sullivan
I'm surprised you're not wearing it today. Honestly.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, no, I. It honestly got too disgusting to talk through.
Lily Sullivan
I really appreciate you being vulnerable with us and showing your full head and face.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You're welcome.
Lily Sullivan
Anyway, so the perseverance lands in. In Dallas, and obviously, you know, they're getting off of the plane, and everyone's like, who are you guys? What's going on? Are you aliens? Remember, they all thought that they were aliens.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's right. No one had seen a wooden submarine fly into an airport.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They'd all lost their ha.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Or.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And they got really into ritual shavings.
Lily Sullivan
Yes. So they're all completely like. No eyebrows, no eyelashes, no nothing.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
They're smooth.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They're smooth, like.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Covered in baby powder.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. They looked like that guy from Powder. You remember Powder, the movie?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Of course. It was one of my favorite movies. Inside, I was obsessed with powder. I couldn't stop watching Powder.
Lily Sullivan
It's a classic. It's a classic. Classic. Everybody loved that movie.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. There's a real good one.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
The CEOs would come at me and I'd be like, I'm gonna power my way out of here.
Lily Sullivan
What did that even mean? How would you do?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Turn into pure energy.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
That's the toughest way to break out of prison.
Lily Sullivan
I forgot that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They can't. Yeah, they can't get you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Okay, so obviously they land and then soon after that. Yes. John F. Kennedy is assassinated. I guess. Guess.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Sure.
Lily Sullivan
But it has nothing to do with them, the timing, anything like that.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, I'm just saying. Setting the stage. 1962, where everybody's. We're not quite getting ready for the moon landing yet. Right?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, yeah, we're gearing up to get ready.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. But we're. We're getting pretty ready for that JFK assassination. Just geared up for it.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
The world is there with bated breasts. Yep.
Lily Sullivan
All right, guys.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Getting ready for the 1964 World's Fair.
Lily Sullivan
Was that the year? That was the year, sure.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
63. Well, 64 was the world's Fair year.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Big one.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. I don't remember this one.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Oh, 64.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Queens, New York.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Queens, New York. Big color TV's big. Yep.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's a small world after all.
Lily Sullivan
Guys, please stay on topic. I wanted to finish the fucking book.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Queens. Have you ever seen Mission in Men in Black?
Lily Sullivan
Yes, of course.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Okay. Yeah. That's where they shot it. World's Fair site.
Lily Sullivan
Okay.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Men in Black.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Huge bomb in prison. No one liked it. You would think. Yeah. Booed. Booted off.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You're kidding me.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. Can you believe it?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I'm apologize. It was not by the standard edit.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Wait a second. You brought a version? I should have known. When.
Lily Sullivan
Well, Charles is in half of it.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I just thought this was back from Charles's more successful acting days. So Charles comes in, he's got the black suit on, the black tie, the sunglasses. The sunglasses he calls, Starts calling out prisons. Prison numbers.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
From the screen.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. The prisoners by number.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Horribly like giving personal details. Everybody was booing, throwing stuff at the screen.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. I'm not surprised.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
The film you saw is a co production between me And Charles and Barry Sonnenfeld who had nothing to do, he had made. Because he made the original.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Right, you got that?
Lily Sullivan
I don't like you collaborating with Charles. I like. I think it's better that you just get back to the house. Touring the house. Dog treats.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Can I just say for the record, Charles is a son of a. You at least got stations. I get Jack on my.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You don't get anything.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I get Jack he me over.
Lily Sullivan
Because it's literally a dinner plate. I don't know how many times I have to say this. It's a dinner plate on top of your house.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Right.
Lily Sullivan
He goes behind the screen. He does. He's literally. It's not even tv. It's a play. You're watching a play every day.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He puts a frame around himself and looks like a tv. It's got the dials and everything.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
When he comes over he holds up a bunch of scrambly wires and stuff and says the. The station isn't working.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, and then in between you guys are supposed to adjust to go.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Can you believe I pay him for that?
Lily Sullivan
I can't believe it. No, I can't.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I owe him $100,000.
Lily Sullivan
You don't owe him anything. Please, let's finish the book. Okay.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Finally get out. I finally get out from inside. I go to Charles Deader's prison.
Lily Sullivan
Wait, what? He has his own prison?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He does.
Lily Sullivan
No. So you're in his own prison, right? Why, are you on bail right now or something? What's going on?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Out installing plates on people's roofs.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, you better.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I know I am going to be.
Lily Sullivan
No, he better not.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm going to be up all night. I do it at night.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Are you?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I do it at night.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Good idea. In this seat, guys.
Lily Sullivan
All right. No, we already talked about favorite parts. Okay. So then Byron gives this big speech in front of all of. All of Dulles and he says, you know, none of you believed in me. There was a smear campaign against me. Look at what I've done now. Look at what I've accomplished.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And again, the people think he's an alien.
Lily Sullivan
That's right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Because he's covered in baby powder, he's.
Lily Sullivan
Hairless and he's oiled. I don't think we meant to say oiled.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No, he's oil. Because the oil and the baby powder adds an interesting mix of textures. Very dry in some places and very slick in others.
Lily Sullivan
Yes, and then I believe he's grabbed by a group of people and they drown him.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, they.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
They're trying to baptize him. And they don't they keep him down for too long.
Lily Sullivan
No, they do. Yeah. Like, I think they. They were trying to honor him, honor his journey by dunking him into the toilet.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, accounts vary because some people feel that they. Some folks still thought they was aliens and thought if we could just baptize these aliens, if we can teach these.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Aliens about Jesus a little bit, maybe they'll stick around and do good.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
And so I don't know if it was Hooray, will. Will drown his back. We're glad to have him here. Let's baptize because we love them so much or goddamn these aliens. We'd better baptize who knows what.
Lily Sullivan
They very well could have been a mix. Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Or a mix.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
We got to get on top of them before they bring whatever alien religion to us, right?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I mean, not a bad idea, by the way.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Alien religion.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
People say we're being visited by aliens. It's not a bad idea to get a hold of them in baptism.
Lily Sullivan
I don't really want any religion talker or alien talk on the pod. Like, it's very polarizing.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I'm not talking about it. I'm just saying it's not a bad idea. So.
Lily Sullivan
So the irony. The irony that Byron. Well, drowned. Didn't drown on the ship, but instead drowned in a toilet in the Doll's airport.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yes. Where they were. I mean, Q, Alanis Morissette, Right?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, I guess so. I never know what you mean when you say that, Auggie. They say it all the time.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He's always saying Q Alanis Morissette.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I don't keep up with pop culture.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Really.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And that's. I'm just trying to speak your language.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, no, it doesn't get through to me. But, guys, wow, we really got. Finally got through the book. Can you believe it? I can't.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, I can't either.
Lily Sullivan
Let's talk about.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's got me excited for a reread.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I'm gonna do a reread.
Lily Sullivan
How was the book received publicly? Let's talk about that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, okay.
Lily Sullivan
You guys know, I mean, you've been on the online. You've been check. Checking stuff out. I mean, I don't know at this point what your online is looking like.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, I got a phone from Charles and the thing works pretty damn screwy, but that was new for me and it gets me online and I get to read.
Lily Sullivan
So you're talking about that remote? Yeah, it's not a phone. It's a remote for, like, a tv.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Okay, that explains a Couple of things about why it doesn't do that much.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. Well, I'm very handy on the Internet, but I've had the advantage of not being in jail. I go down to Starbucks and I just ask somebody, can I use your Internet for 15 minutes? I'll buy anything you want off the Starbucks menu.
Lily Sullivan
See? Buy someone some egg bites or something.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Whatever they tell me they want. Within reason, I think, you know, egg.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Bites is a big thing.
Lily Sullivan
One egg bite, not two.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I'm not gonna give you two guys.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Oh, Havers, on the egg bites, they come in, too.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You go average, you buy them, you buy two, you eat one, and you give the other one to the guy. For the Internet, if they want two.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Egg bites, they got to buy two orders of egg bites. And then I'm going to have two egg.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
But this is economics. I can understand.
Lily Sullivan
So you've been on. You actually have been on the Internet. You know how it's being received publicly, then.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, I've been on Goodreads. You ever go to Goodreads? It's Yelp for books. And people there love this book. Boy, I'll tell you.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, I mean, well. So, Wheeler, this book didn't get published until, what was it, a year ago?
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I think so.
Lily Sullivan
So it's a pretty recent book that came out, but obviously about such a historical phenomenon slash disaster.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yep.
Lily Sullivan
And I thought it was interesting that Fox News, they hated it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Isn't that interesting?
Lily Sullivan
I thought they would have loved this.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Book because it traces back to some of their lineage, their roots.
Lily Sullivan
But I feel like maybe they didn't want people to know that they came out of being a coloring about.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And, you know, you think of your own family, and, you know, I'm not too proud of some of my ancestors.
Lily Sullivan
Well, Tom Ping, I know a little about your family history. It's pretty dark.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's very, very dark. Yeah.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
What should give us the darkest.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, God.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Well, they used to give tours. They were in the tour bus business.
Lily Sullivan
Oh.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And, you know, cheating the insurance companies, they would just, a lot of times, just let these buses roll right off a cliff.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
You gotta be kidding me. Full of passengers and whatnot. God damn. Yeah. And then just to collect the insurance.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, that's right. Now, I don't know exactly how the. I don't know exactly how that worked, but that put. That put, you know, you know, my grandfather through medical school probably also.
Lily Sullivan
I mean, it's kind of weird to me, Augie, like, how much death is in your family's history, but also yours. Like, all 13 of those.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Hopped up.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Kids fucking each other and it's still a tragedy.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I've heard that part before.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah, they were all fucking each other.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Guys, guys, I went on that 23andMe. I got connected to a whole family I never knew anything about. They don't want anything to do with me to a person. Right.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I mean, you told me about this. The interesting thing about it is they're like direct relatives of yours.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, yeah. First cousin.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. It's like, it's basically just like your cousins, your uncles and like, it's your family.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them is. Is a full blooded sister.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. So it's like you knew these people. You didn't need to do 23andMe to like find out who they were.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Well, I thought it'd be more fun for you. Hey, look at this. Here I am, your long lost fruit DNA. Isn't it amazing? And they. Not one bite.
Lily Sullivan
They're like, I saw you last year at Christmas. Like, what the.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
In some cases, yes.
Lily Sullivan
Well, you guys, what are we reading next? This is one of my favorite questions to ask, and I am curious. You guys are still reading books? That's great. I was worried after, you know, how much TV you've been watching.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No, I'm a lifelong reader. I'm a lifelong learner.
Lily Sullivan
Okay.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
And I'm reading a very interesting detective book.
Lily Sullivan
That sounds interesting.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah. And it's about this guy. He's a dog.
Lily Sullivan
Oh, whoa, wait, the detective's a dog?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That's right.
Lily Sullivan
Okay, so it's fiction.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I haven't gotten that far into it yet.
Lily Sullivan
It's fiction.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It's.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I. What kind of a dog?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Sorry, sister, It's. The police department has dogs. Have you ever seen a movie, K9?
Lily Sullivan
Yeah, I have. Okay, keep going. You can keep telling us.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
He's a dog detective.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He's a dog detective. Yeah. He got kicked off the police force.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Okay, now he's a P.I.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Yeah.
Lily Sullivan
Why did he get kicked off?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
He was too rough. With pun intended. Jesus. This is the back of the book.
Lily Sullivan
This is a fucking children's book. I'm looking at it now. This is a kid's book. This is obviously fiction.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
It's the back of the book.
Lily Sullivan
No, this is a child's. I mean, I'm doing my homework. Augie. This is outrageous.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I'm doing my homework. Homework.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
I'm reading a what if book about what if the Hindenburg had blown up on departure.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Wow, it's really fast.
Lily Sullivan
It just imagines that. Yeah, it would have blown up and that would have been, the story wouldn't have existed at all.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
No, it's. It's almost the same. It's the Hindenburg takes off from Berlin and it gets 10ft and it bursts into flame. And so instead of, oh, the humanity, it's exclamations in German.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
German stuff.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
People saying things in German. Meanwhile, Lakewood, New Jersey, the destination of the Hindenburg, life goes on as usual.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
You think about it, the phrase all the humanity probably isn't even worked into the cultural zeitgeist.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. That wouldn't exist. It's like, what would we do without that line? If you think about it, a lot.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Of the book concerns itself with what is it like to exist in a 20th and 21st century America where nobody knows what all the humanity refers to.
Lily Sullivan
I wouldn't want to live in a world like that.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
No. If I got taken to that dimension, I would freak the fuck out.
Lily Sullivan
I wouldn't want to live in that world. Well, I'm reading a really great book actually, as well. It's about phone chargers, things.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Whoa.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. And the history of phone chargers, the different types that there are, and just sort of how we don't really think we take phone chargers for granted.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Yeah. What came first, the phone or the phone charger?
Lily Sullivan
That's what's so interesting. The phone charger. Wow. And no one really thinks about that. It doesn't really get the credit it deserves.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Wow.
Lily Sullivan
And if you think about it, like, how much of how many people you see, like, at a bar or something, like, can I use your phone to charger? Does anyone here have a phone charger?
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
That always happens to me when I go to a bar. God, I'm sick of it.
Lily Sullivan
It's such a part of our culture, and we just. And you don't even need to charge your phone. It's a remote.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I don't know what they're talking about. I give them the batteries out of my phone, and they look at me like I'm fraking nuts.
Lily Sullivan
Wow. You guys. I can't believe we did it. I truly can't believe it. Thank you so much for being on Dean Firehouse. So nice to see you.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
My pleasure. Come on down to Dean Firehouse's. Not Firehouse.
Lily Sullivan
And give it.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Give it a look over.
Lily Sullivan
Take a look at the.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
At that barren spot on my floor.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
It is clean. I go there, I look in the window. I just drool. Because I know he's got a lot. You got to clean up that drool when I leave. And it drives him a little crazy.
Lily Sullivan
You guys like, like it. It's symbiotic, your little thing you guys have going on. Augie Silverado, thank you so much for being on.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
Really nice to see you on the pickleball courts.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. Yeah, you will. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that you're going to be invited back after what you did last time, but yeah, I.
Augie Silverado (Ben Rogers)
I got, I burned some of the net last time and some people, well, they were trying to put out the net that's kind of on them. I don't know if I can take the hit for that one, but anyway.
Lily Sullivan
And Brett. Yeah. Good job, I guess.
Dean Firehouse (Andy Daly)
Oh, wow. Thank you. You guys made me look good. 3, 2, 1. Pretty good job.
Lily Sullivan
Yeah. Next to these two, like real conspiracy theorists, you seemed slightly more normal to the listener. I just want to say thank you all so much for coming on this adventure with with us. I hope you go to the bottom of the sea and to the desert and up into the mountains, and I hope you find the book that changes your life. Thank you. Such an unbelievable episode. Big thank you to my guests Andy Daly and Ben Rogers. You can hear more from Ben on his podcast Action Boys and more from Andy at Patreon, Patreon, Andy Daily. As always, thank you to CBB World, Scott Aukerman and Brett Morris for making the show happen. And finally, you can follow me, your host, Lily Sullivan at L I L Y L Y. Until next time, I hope you keep gallivanting through the pages and I hope you find the book that changes your life.
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Guests: Lily Sullivan (host), Andy Daly (as Dean Firehouse), Ben Rodgers (as Augie Silverado)
Original Release: August 21, 2025
Book Discussed: Perseverance by Preston Luke Wheeler
In this special re-release, Comedy Bang Bang presents an episode from Lily Sullivan’s spin-off series, This Book Changed My Life. The show adopts a “book club with comedians” format, wherein Lily and her guests (often playing eccentric characters) dissect a life-changing book—this week, the absurdist “adventure” epic Perseverance by Preston Luke Wheeler.
Lily is joined by returning guests:
Together, they lampoon literary conventions, weave in-site backstory, and spiral into wild comedic tangents—all filtered through their characters’ bizarre perspectives.
[03:17–12:00]
[12:52–62:00]
Premise: The group dissects the “true story” of Byron Will Drown’s doomed 1920s expedition on the ship Perseverance, which could magically transform from ship to submarine to land rover to airplane.
Adventure Book Tropes and Satire:
Absurd Plot Elements:
[22:36–47:38]
Billionaire Retreat & Kumbaya Moment:
Greenland Expedition:
Descent into Madness:
Desert Engineering & “Inventions”:
Throughout
Dog Treats and Prison Cuisine:
Conspiracy Theories:
Absurd Family & Character Histories:
Book Reviews and Spin-offs:
On Byron’s Fate:
On the Book’s Effect:
On Coloring Books in Prison:
On Hosting Empty House Tours:
On Adventure Book Clichés:
[51:13–67:14]
[69:05–72:47]
The episode’s tone is anarchic, playful, and rich with improv character work. The guests riff on each other’s stories, expand on ridiculous premises (from “auditing” a podcast class, to involuntary empty house tours, to inventing adobe in the desert), and maintain a deadpan seriousness that heightens the absurdity.
Quips like “You audit a college class by just going in for free and sitting there and not getting a grade” (Dean, [35:15]) or “It just gets in the way of straightening up” (Dean, [08:08]) capture the show’s surreal, character-driven humor.
This episode delivers a perfect distillation of “This Book Changed My Life’s” winning formula: the collision of improv comedy, literary parody, and plausible-sounding nonsense. The guests, through their characters, create a shade-mocking pastiche of book club earnestness, satirical backstories, and impossible tales of adventure. If you missed the original paywalled release, this reissued “Bonus Bang” proves a comic highlight for fans of both hilarious literature and increasingly unhinged character banter.
Memorable Closing:
“I hope you go to the bottom of the sea and to the desert and up into the mountains, and I hope you find the book that changes your life.”
– Lily Sullivan [74:16]
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