I Can’t Chase 55s (Max Silvestri, Gabe Liedman, Will Hines, Ben Rodgers)

Summary

Comedy Bang Bang: "I Can’t Chase 55s" (Max Silvestri, Gabe Liedman, Will Hines, Ben Rodgers)

Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Scott Aukerman
Guests: Max Silvestri, Gabe Liedman, Arnold Debobo (character, played by Ben Rodgers), Ethan Merck (character, played by Will Hines)

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Episode Overview

This raucous episode of Comedy Bang Bang brings together comedians Max Silvestri and Gabe Liedman, both recent entrants to the podcasting game, for a playful debrief about their comedy careers, podcasting origins, and email communication woes. The conversation, full of Comic Bang Bang’s signature meta-humor and character bits, ranges from persistent festival stories to the debut and self-roasting of their new show, I Need You Guys (including frequent shout-outs to co-host Jenny Slate). Later, the show erupts into classic CBB mayhem as characters Ethan Merck (a bumbling bounty hunter) and Arnold Debobo (an off-putting mentalist) join the fun for character-driven silliness that lampoons law enforcement, mentalism, and bad corporate gigs.

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Guests Introduction and Festival Antics

[02:01–13:15]

• Scott launches into the main show, welcoming Pen15 and Q Force writer Gabe Liedman for his first official Comedy Bang Bang appearance (“the exclusive One-Timers Club”), and Max Silvestri for his seventh.
• Scott and Max revisit Max's infamous 10-minute set at the 2019 “Great American Comedy Festival” in Lincoln, Nebraska (where Max opened for Dave Coulier), analyzing whether he came out financially “in the black or in the red.” Max spins the tale of parlaying the set’s minor buzz into a 15-minute “mini special” and riffs on comedy econ (“This was my crypto moment... I can go all in and do 15 [minutes].” – Max, 09:46).
• They bemoan not being invited back for anniversaries, joking that Max’s fame now eclipses Johnny Carson's (“I do feel like, yeah. Oh, this is, you know, a special space.” – Max, 12:16).

Memorable Quote:
“...at the end of the day, this festival is about raising Johnny Carson’s legacy. And it seems like perhaps your fame is eclipsing his at this point.”
– Scott, 11:57–12:02

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Email Gate: The Great Podcast Pitch That Wasn't

[13:15–32:47]

• Scott and the guests hilariously resurrect ancient podcasting plans: Max and Gabe recall reaching out to Scott by email in 2011, trying to pitch a podcast version of their live show. Scott's advice (“it’s harder than it seems... you need something”) led them to drop the idea, only to revive it now, when the market is more saturated than ever.
• Gabe produces emails from 2009 begging to perform on Scott’s live show, which Scott, then too busy, never replied to. This triggers comedic hand-wringing about booking etiquette and long-held grudges.
• The conversation affectionately flays the podcasting process (“...we waited until it was so, like, oversaturated, fat, like a balloon about to explode” – Max, 20:36), with all agreeing they weren't ready 13 years ago, and that the journey to friendship and podcasting maturity ran parallel.

Notable Exchange:
“I think my other show, Threedom, is just three friends talking... now it’s all based on the personalities and if people like you, then they’ll follow you anywhere.”
– Scott, 22:28–22:49

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I Need You Guys Podcast: Concept & Meta-Jabs

[32:47–38:12]

• Max and Gabe unveil I Need You Guys, a laidback chat show with Jenny Slate, using podcasting as a friendship-maintenance tool (“...this is our way of keeping in touch now that we’re adults” – Gabe, 21:02).
• They joke about Jenny's infamous accidental F-bomb on SNL and her ongoing “apologies to children,” and riff on how the podcast differs from "high-concept" shows, embracing guest unpredictability and crowd-sourced life advice.
• Scott suggests that “low-concept” is now the most refreshing move, noting the market shift in podcasting: it's now personality-driven, not premise-dependent.

Memorable Moment:
“We wanted to wait until it was just the love of the game... and you know, we weren’t ready thirteen years ago.”
– Max, 23:10–23:14

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A New Era of Podcasting: Workflow, Scheduling, and Friendship

[38:12–40:12]

• The friends trade tips about email responsiveness, scheduling via Zoom, technological ineptitude (especially regarding Jenny’s eternal computer woes), and the honesty required for a lasting creative partnership.
• The trio celebrates how accepting each other’s quirks (non-responsiveness, tech issues) is the true secret to podcast longevity.

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Character Drop-In: Ethan Merck, Bounty Hunter

[40:12–54:00]

• Enter “law enforcement” guest Ethan Merck, a self-styled bounty hunter (played by Will Hines). The bit quickly spirals: Ethan describes his freelance services, which sound conspicuously like kidnapping, complete with “vetting” to ensure the “targets” are truly “bad guys.”
• Max gets comically serious about what it would cost to hire Ethan to track his hypothetical runaway wife, fussing over expenses from gas to lunch (“Chipotle or higher,” Ethan, 51:11).
• The segment lampoons procedural TV tropes, private investigator cliches, and client/PI logistics, complete with meandering debates about food and travel per diems.

Notable Quote:
“I can’t chase 55s.”
– Ethan Merck (i.e. won’t take a job unless he feels the target is at least 60% in the wrong), 50:20

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Character Drop-In: Arnold Debobo, Off-Putting Mentalist

[67:00–88:09]

• Arnold Debobo (Ben Rodgers) crashes the show as a self-effacing, repellent mentalist who proclaims, “...what makes me maybe the greatest mentalist out there [is] I’m more off-putting. Audiences are uncomfortable around me.” (68:08)
• Arnold demonstrates bizarre “mentalism tricks” by making his targets think about how far away they want him, getting clues from foot massages and microreactions (“...five feet further away”– Arnold, 72:12).
• He delivers a fire truck toy in a pre-mailed envelope, referencing a guest's secret emoji code; later, an ominous letter from Phil Collins emerges (“He signed it, ‘Hey, check out my lyrics to In The Air Tonight.’” – Scott, 85:02).
• Arnold and Ethan riff on being used as “last resort” interrogators, and Arnold admits his career is founded on being “gross enough that it is beneficial to what I do...” (81:05) while everyone explores just how off-putting he is.

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Lightning Plugs & Closing Banter

[88:46–end]

• Max and Gabe plug their new podcast, I Need You Guys, releasing weekly (or “every six days... HBO style,” per Scott).
• They plug their other projects: Max with HBO’s I Love LA and Loot (season 3), produced with Alan Yang.
• Ethan’s plug: comedy podcast “Screw, We’re Just Gonna Talk About the Beatles.”
• Arnold: Action Boys podcast.
• Scott plugs CBB merch and action figures, and closes with playful thanks and nods to each guest’s quirks (“The sooner you’re out of here, the better” – addressing Arnold, 94:00).

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Notable Quotes & Segments (Timestamps)

• Scott on email ghosting and responsiveness:
  “We all pretend that we don’t have these devices in our hands all the time... We should just respond. But instead, we put it aside... [and] forget about it for weeks.” (28:55)
• Max’s comedically circuitous path to podcasting:
  “We waited until it was so oversaturated, fat, like a balloon about to explode.” (20:36)
• Arnold Debobo’s self-assessment:
  “I’m more off-putting. Audiences are uncomfortable around me.” (68:08)
• Ethan Merck’s professional standards:
  “I can’t chase 55s.” (50:20)
• The theme of staying current, according to Max:
  “Johnny is trying to. And when I say Johnny, I mean the stewards of his legacy. He’s long dead, right?” (12:42)
• Podcasting about friendship:
  “This is our way of keeping in touch now that we’re adults.” – Gabe, (21:02)

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Episode Flow

• Catchphrase/intro, guest welcomes, running joke about Max's Nebraska set/festival.
• Deep dive into email etiquette, podcasting journeys, and what advice means in comedy.
• Introduction of I Need You Guys; why “low-concept” podcasts are now king.
• Character chaos: Ethan Merck’s off-the-rails “bounty hunter,” expense negotiations, and “wrongness percentages.”
• Character chaos: Arnold Debobo’s grating, meta magic tricks; uncomfortable (and hilarious) mentalism.
• Round-Robin plugs, gentle roast of closing out the show, and callbacks to the episode’s recurring bits.

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Final Thoughts

A classic Comedy Bang Bang episode: a densely packed, self-referential comedic stew brimming with meta-jokes, running bits, and mock earnestness. Silvestri and Liedman riff with seasoned chemistry, poking fun at the showbiz grind and podcast saturation, while the open-door third act brings in hallmark absurdist characters—making for an episode that rewards both deep CBB fans and new listeners alike.

Transcript

[Scott Aukerman]

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[Arnold Debobo]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Arnold Debobo]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Arnold Debobo]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Ethan Merck]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Max Silvestri]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Max Silvestri]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Max Silvestri]

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[Scott Aukerman]

Gardening is a pretty expensive hobby when you're bad at it. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. All right, thanks to Fluter Paradigm 369 for that catchphrase. Submission submitted on January 18th of 2023. Thank you so much. Just getting around to it. Hope you're still out there, Fluter. Hope you're still a regular listener and or alive. And welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. For another week we have a fantastic show. My name is Scott Aukerman. Coming up a little later, we have a mentalist. This is exciting. I don't know that we've ever had a mentalist on the show. I guess we had David Blaine. Is he a mentalist? I can't remember. Anyway, he does something indescribable. Perhaps. We also have someone in law enforcement, very popular these days. So we'll be talking to them a little later. But first, let's get to our guests of honor. This is exciting. They're coming in as a team. First of all, you know him from such shows as Pen15Q Force. Never have I ever. A standup comedian of much renown. He's entering the exclusive one Timers Club. This is.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes, baby.

[Scott Aukerman]

Incredibly exciting. Please welcome Gabe Liedman.

[Gabe Liedman]

Thank you for finally having me.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's right.

[Gabe Liedman]

We'll talk on your long running show.

[Scott Aukerman]

We'll talk a little bit more about that in a second. Let me introduce your partner in crime. In 2019, this guest performed at a certain comedy festival I believe called the Great American Comedy Festival in Lincoln, Nebraska. Was it Lincoln, Nebraska?

[Max Silvestri]

It sure was.

[Scott Aukerman]

He performed a 10 minute set that rocked the comedy industry. Opening for Dave Coulier. Was it?

[Max Silvestri]

Yes. He was the headliner. Doing a mix of comedy and storytelling.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa.

[Max Silvestri]

To honor Johnny Carson, he parlayed that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Heat into a 15 minute Netflix special. Mini special.

[Ethan Merck]

Is that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, it's just a special, right? It doesn't.

[Max Silvestri]

Quarter hour.

[Scott Aukerman]

It doesn't matter how long it is. It's a special special.

[Gabe Liedman]

It's streaming.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, it's. It's the shortest special. That's the longest to say I have an hour special. Okay. That's an hour special.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's a special.

[Max Silvestri]

A half hour special. Well, that's a little longer to say quarter hour special.

[Scott Aukerman]

15 minute is what I would say. Did it, did it go the whole 15 minutes or did you do 10.

[Max Silvestri]

With credits and the music and stuff? Ye, yeah. It was basically the 10 that you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Did opening for Coulier.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. And then I took questions about Dave Coulier and Johnny Carson off camera. Off camera, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then he has been on this show several times to talk about that. I want to hear if there are any updates. He's entering the exclusive seven Timers Club. Please welcome Max Silvestri.

[Max Silvestri]

Wow. Thanks for having me back to maybe even arguably do more than just talk about that.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't know about that, but let's talk to Gabe first.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Gabe, I had sworn that you were on the show before. You would think I would think you.

[Gabe Liedman]

Have so many great comedians on your show.

[Scott Aukerman]

So I looked it up. I said, let me see what timers club he's entering. Is it two? Is it three? Here's the AI overview when I entered your name in Comedy Bang Bang.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Comedian and writer Gabe Liedman is a frequent and well regarded guest on the Comedy Bang Bang podcast. No way.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, thank God.

[Scott Aukerman]

He has appeared both as himself and as various characters on the show.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh my God. Thank God.

[Scott Aukerman]

Key details about Liebman's association with Comedy Bang Bang characters and improvisation. Like many guests, Liebman has showcased his improvisational skills by creating memorable characters, such as in an episode titled Franklin and Bash, he appeared alongside Scott Aukerman and others.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay. And that was John Levenstein's slightly different thing.

[Scott Aukerman]

Perennial favorite in 2014. In a 2014 Decider article, he was described as a perennial favorite on Comedy Bang Bang, acknowledging his established status as a welcomed and beloved guest. What the fuck is this?

[Max Silvestri]

Slaying the elephant in the room by acknowledging, yes, preferred status.

[Gabe Liedman]

Decider has been hacked. We know that. No one is safe.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, welcome back to the show. This is. It's a pleasure to have you back.

[Gabe Liedman]

I love being here. I love playing characters here. I love being myself here.

[Scott Aukerman]

We don't have characters on the show. I don't know what that's referencing.

[Gabe Liedman]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

But it's wonderful to have comedians on as well as people from all walks of life.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right. That's what I meant.

[Scott Aukerman]

And it's wonderful to have you on. I've been a big fan of yours for a long time. And yet the stars have never aligned.

[Gabe Liedman]

I know, it's weird.

[Scott Aukerman]

Mainly, I don't have any of your contact information.

[Gabe Liedman]

Well, I. You could probably guess it.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

To be honest, I think probably everyone.

[Scott Aukerman]

Else out there probably could too.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. But, yeah, I guess the stars haven't aligned, but they finally have. And I think. I think we're set up to do something great today.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fantastic. And now, Max, let's go. Let's turn our gaze backwards to 2019.

[Max Silvestri]

2019.

[Scott Aukerman]

2019. You are booked on a certain comedy festival, the Great American Comedy Festival, I believe is what it was called. And you are flown out there. Was it a pj?

[Max Silvestri]

Absolutely not.

[Scott Aukerman]

Absolutely not.

[Max Silvestri]

No, No. I was given an Avis voucher.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. For midsize sedan and smaller.

[Scott Aukerman]

Did you drive out there?

[Max Silvestri]

No, I was just given an Avis sedan and they said, do what you want. It was an all in. An all in offer.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's awesome.

[Max Silvestri]

Which I think means you just. You cover your own.

[Scott Aukerman]

Cover your. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

It sounds like it's going to be like an all in offer. Does sound. If you.

[Scott Aukerman]

If you're cyt.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. You think, oh, you've gotten a $500 all in offer.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Max Silvestri]

To go to the Great American.

[Gabe Liedman]

Sounds like a resort where you're going to get everything.

[Max Silvestri]

I'm going to do so many bottom shelf margaritas, they're going to have to escort me out of there with a gun. But instead that just meant that you pay for everything. Check that they send you.

[Scott Aukerman]

I see. So did you come out in the black or in the red? Do you recall?

[Max Silvestri]

You know, I think if you were to just think of that distinction from a monetary perspective, which many do. Which many say, like specifically, I may have asked about that, but I feel like now looking. You know how when they say like, oh, a movie didn't do well at the box office, they're. What they're really looking at is like, okay, after eight weeks, it didn't make its budget back with like tickets sold at the box office. But if you look long term in the way that the movie then gets sold to HBO re airs, has DVD ratios, you're like, well, actually, long term.

[Scott Aukerman]

Long term. It actually was a good, safe investment, as was your 10 minutes at the Lincoln, Nebraska festival. Because you took. Everyone was talking about it. First of all, you came on this show before it happened to plug it. You came on the show a couple months later to talk about how it went. Everyone, I mean, the whole city was a buzz. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

We honored its five year anniversary last year.

[Gabe Liedman]

So people are still talking about it.

[Scott Aukerman]

People are still talking about it. And then you capitalized on this in such a canny way.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

By then getting a special ex.

[Max Silvestri]

A special.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

That was 50% longer than the set. I mean, I do think, look, you could put your money in a savings account at the bank and make what, 2% per year? Sure, if you're lucky. But you got to look for those moments in the market where you can rapidly accumulate wealth. Influence crypto. Exactly. This was my crypto moment where I said, like, I probably should only be doing an 11 minute special based on what I've pulled off in Lincoln. But now with the buzz. Yeah, I can go all in.

[Gabe Liedman]

I love that.

[Max Silvestri]

And do 15.

[Gabe Liedman]

And you and Coulier are still very close.

[Max Silvestri]

Extremely.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes. So that. That paid off.

[Scott Aukerman]

You are the bald cap along with John Stamos. When you visited him in the hospital, did you not.

[Gabe Liedman]

Let's bring the picture up.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, let's get the picture, the three of you.

[Scott Aukerman]

So, you know, a lot of pictures you're cropped out because. Because you're not at.

[Max Silvestri]

Quite a hand gesture I was making. And it's not the first two, you guess, but no. So Dave and I still have a very fruitful relationship that I kind of think of as the money I got from that, like anytime he needs to give a speech at like a policeman's union dinner or you Know some. A battered children's home or something like that. I'm doing jokes.

[Scott Aukerman]

They have a home.

[Gabe Liedman]

I love that.

[Max Silvestri]

They do. Yeah. They shouldn't be in their main one, that's for sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

I would think. I would think it would be a home full of kids with other problems, too. But it's just, you know, little problems.

[Gabe Liedman]

No, they have their own needs, like real soft furniture, stuff like that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, now, have you. We. We talked about this in the five year anniversary.

[Max Silvestri]

Yep.

[Scott Aukerman]

Have you been invited back to Lincoln, Nebraska, to celebrate?

[Max Silvestri]

I.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because. Because I would. And we talked about this a little bit a year ago. I would love to moderate a panel about. About this. About this incredible set. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

We put it in the air just a year ago.

[Scott Aukerman]

We put it in the air and nothing. Yeah. Bupkis. Haven't heard a single thing. I was wondering. I haven't spoken to you in a year.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I was wondering if maybe you'd heard something.

[Gabe Liedman]

Are they going behind Scott's back?

[Max Silvestri]

Right.

[Gabe Liedman]

To do something, Organize this?

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. They're like, let's have it moderated by someone we can afford, someone who's willing to drive their own car out there. Here's what I think, because I was hoping the same thing would happen. I was like, you know, this is a nice opportunity as we round the corner into the sixth anniversary of the set, to do something with me. And what I've also, I think, brought to the festival's awareness because I think we ended up helping each other quite a bit. Sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't think anyone has talked about that festival as much as we have.

[Max Silvestri]

Absolutely. Not Ever, Ever in history. Absolutely not. I think that there were some hurt feelings because at the end of the day, this festival is about raising the profile of Johnny Carson's legacy.

[Scott Aukerman]

Got it. And it seems like perhaps your fame is eclipsing his at this point.

[Max Silvestri]

It does feel that way.

[Gabe Liedman]

It's much more current. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. For sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, anything going on with your childhood home, has that been cordoned off at all? Like. Oh, no, this is a historical preserved site.

[Max Silvestri]

My mom did redo the carpets in the townhouse she bought after I moved away. So in some ways I do feel like, yeah. Oh, this is, you know, a special space.

[Scott Aukerman]

What'd she do with them? What'd she redo? Like, redo, like, replace them or. She took the existing carpets and somehow made a quilt, spruced them up.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

She painted them in her basement studio. So now they're just. They're. It's kind of tacky.

[Gabe Liedman]

I love that Kate's I love that.

[Max Silvestri]

It's like frosting. No, I mean, because I'm current. Johnny is trying to. And when I say Johnny, I mean the stewards of his legacy. He's long dead, right?

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure. But he left explicit instructions in his will, I would imagine, of what to do, who to invite to this festival.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. Like, how many steam trays of barbecue to serve at the lunch at his childhood home. Stuff like that. I just think it's like he's clinging on to some sort of primacy that's just not his.

[Gabe Liedman]

I almost feel bad for him.

[Max Silvestri]

It's sort of pathetic.

[Scott Aukerman]

I do.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I feel really bad for Johnny Carson. It's embarrassing at this point.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. It's weird.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's being weird.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. So I think if I were to hear right now, like, if I were to get a text from the festival.

[Scott Aukerman]

Organizers, an emergency text, like one that, like. Do you have the sound on for texts from.

[Max Silvestri]

They're added to my group that breaks through everything. It's basically my wife, my mother, and then the festival.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. So if suddenly we hear a noise, a pinging noise or something, we know it's the festival or your wife or your mother.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

And. But if you were to get one right now, what would you say?

[Max Silvestri]

I would say that I've moved on. I have new. Speaking of talk show and my new. My own. Kind of. My own Carson thing with my friends Gabe and Jenny.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right.

[Max Silvestri]

So I don't have room to just honor a guy who used to do it. Because I'm doing it right now.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because you're doing it right now. There. There should be. Perhaps some people are saying that there should be a festival in your honor one day.

[Gabe Liedman]

I would go, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Would you perform at it or.

[Gabe Liedman]

I would think about it. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see where I end up in the lineup.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay. Let's say that I'm mowed down by a truck leaving this.

[Scott Aukerman]

Could you just be hit by a truck, like, mowed down?

[Gabe Liedman]

I think he wants to be scraped a little bit.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

I want him to back up after, like, thinking it was okay. But then that's when they make it worse.

[Scott Aukerman]

If you're ever in an accident and you think you hit something back up to check.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

To look out your window.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Real herky jerky.

[Max Silvestri]

So I'm gone. And obviously a festival is planned to honor, like, both what I did, but also what we were robbed of. By me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure. What you could have done.

[Max Silvestri]

Exactly. And you and Gabe were in charge with organizing a Q and A.

[Scott Aukerman]

In charge of organizing it, but not participating in it.

[Max Silvestri]

That's your choice.

[Gabe Liedman]

I guess we'll work out who's moderating.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, well, how are we gonna work this out?

[Max Silvestri]

You're getting 2,000 Rochambeau?

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Max Silvestri]

My wife is giving you guys a check for $2,000 to spend. It's all in. However you want to. And that's venue stuff. You can pay yourself.

[Gabe Liedman]

Avis stuff.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whatever you want. When you say venue stuff, what are you talking? Like, we have to rent the venue.

[Max Silvestri]

It's all in.

[Gabe Liedman]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

Venue stuff. I mean, I would think that would be taken care of.

[Max Silvestri]

Like, hey, this is not the way I would.

[Gabe Liedman]

We're going to do cash bar.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay. 100%, and that can go back towards you guys or choose to help my family. But ultimately, what other guests are you asking to come on and speak?

[Arnold Debobo]

Or.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wait, is this a. Like a memorial service for you or. I just thought we would do a Q and A or something.

[Gabe Liedman]

You.

[Scott Aukerman]

You want us to. I mean, I don't even know who your friends are, honestly.

[Gabe Liedman]

Well, Coulier is there.

[Max Silvestri]

Cool.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

He's probably cool. Yeah, yeah. And you can absolutely. Just softball questions about the show that.

[Gabe Liedman]

Full House. Full House, yes.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, yeah. It was television shows in the history of the mediums.

[Max Silvestri]

Like, what are the show. Johnny Carson show. Other shows. No, it doesn't have to be. Like, I didn't know Johnny personally, but they chose me to honor his memory. The 10 minutes.

[Scott Aukerman]

So who.

[Gabe Liedman]

Who's keeping your legacy alive?

[Max Silvestri]

Thank you.

[Gabe Liedman]

Today.

[Max Silvestri]

Us, I guess.

[Arnold Debobo]

I guess.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

And the truck driver.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, we can get him involved.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

He's put you on the map, literally. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, this sounds good. Yeah, this sounds great.

[Max Silvestri]

I'm just saying that if something were to happen, you kind of now have the. The receipts, as they say. That's not how they use it or how they say it. But you know. Know what I would like, which is.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right, you don't see.

[Scott Aukerman]

We know your wishes.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. He doesn't need a will.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is a living will. This podcast will serve as a living will for Max Silvestri.

[Max Silvestri]

If you're my legal Zoom representative listening to this, you can delete the document that I created. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Do you want to get any of your other details of your will out here, since this is, I guess, the podcast of record?

[Max Silvestri]

I want my baby to live in Seattle. Oh, so someone's got to. Even my wife survives.

[Gabe Liedman]

It's kind of a big.

[Max Silvestri]

Gotta move there.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you guys don't live in Seattle currently?

[Max Silvestri]

No, no, no. We have no family in Seattle. I just think it's beautiful in the summer. Pike Place, catching fish.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you don't want to move there just if you were to die.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, if I were to die, I think it'd be a great way to operate.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

To catch the fish in the summer.

[Max Silvestri]

Catch a mariner's game.

[Scott Aukerman]

The view of the.

[Max Silvestri]

Sure. So much sound, so much to catch there.

[Scott Aukerman]

There is a lot of catching Mariners games. Do you mean fish from the guys throwing it around in the Pike Place market?

[Max Silvestri]

Of course I do.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

What else would you think I meant? Where else do they catch fish?

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't know. I was. I was imagining, like. Oh, like fisherman, Your wife going out into the ocean and then throwing a fish at your baby.

[Max Silvestri]

Obviously, the main way to catch fish is in a newspaper as a tourist at the Pike Place Market. That's what everyone's mind goes to.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

And then the second way might be in a boat to feed your family.

[Scott Aukerman]

When you go in Gum Alley and you stick it up on the wall.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, yeah. Dry it out nice. Come back a couple weeks later.

[Max Silvestri]

That's the life I want for my infant.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, this is great. I hope that we hear something from the festival just for closure on our parts, because we're going to keep doing this, I think, every year until we hear from them. But let's put all of that aside and talk about what's going on currently with you both, because it would surprise no one to know that you currently have a project together.

[Gabe Liedman]

Whoa.

[Scott Aukerman]

You've worked separately in the past, yet you've been such close friends. You have. You have entered into the podcast game. Is this true?

[Gabe Liedman]

Would you say we're right on time?

[Scott Aukerman]

I think so. I mean, you're now your peers, your colleagues of mine.

[Max Silvestri]

Do you remember kind of talking us out of a podcast, like maybe 13 or 14 years ago?

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't really. Yeah. When was this? Was this when we went?

[Max Silvestri]

You didn't talk and talk us out? Like, you were encouraging and you were like, you know, you were the. You as you remain the comedy podcast. You know, pro godfather Podfather is an.

[Scott Aukerman]

Easier way to say that.

[Max Silvestri]

Oddfather.

[Scott Aukerman]

Podfather.

[Ethan Merck]

Podfather.

[Scott Aukerman]

Did you say odd father?

[Max Silvestri]

You're our odd father.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's how we all think of it. Was this when we went to dinner in Venice that one time? Maybe it was.

[Max Silvestri]

And there was an email where it's like, you know, I do this. You know, Gabe and Jenny and I, like, we do this chatty, fun live show in New York, and it feels like, it would make sense to do as a podcast.

[Scott Aukerman]

You emailed me this.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, I probably could find it. Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

But.

[Max Silvestri]

No, but you were just like, you guys really should think harder about. In an encouraging way. This is you trying to develop and do the work. Do the work. You're like, what is the show like? What is it each week? And is it about guests? Is. Is there segments you kind of need something.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sounds like stuff that I would say when I'm trying to get people out of my way. Out of your way.

[Max Silvestri]

It definitely didn't feel like there were collaborative action items at the end of the email.

[Scott Aukerman]

It was more. Here's. Here's what you need to do in order for me to pay for. That's what I'm assuming you wanted, is me to open up my checkbook and pay you guys to do a podcast. Is that what this is?

[Gabe Liedman]

Kinda.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, probably. Yeah. Bias microphones. I don't know. It wasn't a heavy lift. I wasn't. I wasn't taking you out.

[Scott Aukerman]

Buying microphones is a heavy lift. Yes. If you knew the fucking. All of the hassle it took to get these in here.

[Gabe Liedman]

Well, these are stunning.

[Max Silvestri]

They're beautiful.

[Gabe Liedman]

These are stunning.

[Max Silvestri]

Gold, covered in gold. But no, it was. You were a little like, it's a hard. It's harder than it seems. Which of course it is. It's a saturated market.

[Scott Aukerman]

True.

[Max Silvestri]

So you really got it.

[Scott Aukerman]

And this was 13 years ago.

[Max Silvestri]

13 years ago. So we.

[Gabe Liedman]

So we let it fill up a little more. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

We waited until it was so, like, oversaturated fat, like a balloon about to explode.

[Gabe Liedman]

And now we're a little meniscus.

[Scott Aukerman]

Finally. What?

[Gabe Liedman]

On top.

[Scott Aukerman]

And maybe my advice back then made sense, and it doesn't now. The podcast game has changed in 13 years because now. What is the concept of your show? It's called I need you guys. Is that right?

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

What is the concept?

[Gabe Liedman]

The concept is, this is our way of keeping in touch now that we're adults, that we live our lives separately.

[Max Silvestri]

And our co host, Jenny Slate, she lives on the east coast now. And this is a way of keeping.

[Scott Aukerman]

The F word on SNL once. Right?

[Gabe Liedman]

She did. Yeah. It came. Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's what she's famous for, right?

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. Yeah. And since then, she's been taking it easy.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. She's ultimately been making amends to children. And she's still on the show one by one, right? Yeah, exactly.

[Scott Aukerman]

It takes a long time. That was 10 years or so ago.

[Gabe Liedman]

It was. I mean, she's still on the show. They Just don't show her.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right. Because she's so busy apologizing to the crew.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah. She checks all the cue cards to make sure that word's not on there again.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, that was what happened. It was on the Q card.

[Max Silvestri]

It was.

[Gabe Liedman]

So it's not her fault.

[Scott Aukerman]

Why. Why didn't she ever throw the Q card guy under the bus?

[Gabe Liedman]

Because he's got a family. Oh, he's got a family.

[Max Silvestri]

15 kids from 16 moms.

[Scott Aukerman]

Incredible.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wow.

[Max Silvestri]

So we.

[Scott Aukerman]

So he was a donor for a gay couple.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, a couple.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. But only one worked out okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

If that makes sense.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. So this, this podcast is us kind of relying on each other to live our adult lives.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes. Coming to the table with questions. How would you guys handle this kind of situation? We also let listeners ask us questions and give very nice of you non expert advice.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. So people weirdly look up to us.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's. It's a, it's a low concept podcast, which I think 13 years ago maybe didn't make sense all that much and now is refreshing. I think my other show, threedom, is. That's what we do is just three friends talking. And, and, and nowadays I would say it's all based on the personalities and if people like you, then they'll follow. They'll follow your show anywhere.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's what we're hoping. We wanted to make sure that there was no money in the game anymore.

[Max Silvestri]

Yes.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Gabe Liedman]

And then we jumped right in with.

[Scott Aukerman]

Every, every company closing as well.

[Gabe Liedman]

Exactly.

[Scott Aukerman]

Exactly.

[Max Silvestri]

Because if there was money to. I would be so distracted with getting.

[Scott Aukerman]

It, counting it, and being like, this work equals money. Seeing what color it is.

[Gabe Liedman]

Coins can be so loud.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

I don't know how you address that.

[Max Silvestri]

We wanted to wait till it was just the love of the game. And you know what? We weren't ready 13 years ago because.

[Scott Aukerman]

I would say that's probably. That was the, the kind of subtext of my email. Yeah, you're not ready.

[Gabe Liedman]

You're not ready.

[Max Silvestri]

It's a long email. I think it was super text. It felt like you might have even headlined the paragraphs and underlined a part and be like, why you're not ready? And then it was. Then it was like more conversational, but the summary parts were.

[Scott Aukerman]

So wait. So I wrote, I wrote this email to you.

[Gabe Liedman]

There was like notes on our bodies.

[Scott Aukerman]

I had a laser pointer too.

[Max Silvestri]

I was.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I wrote this email. Did you ever respond to it? But whatever happened, you guys decided not to go forward, right?

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Gabe Liedman]

We're responding right now.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, this is.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, that was good advice.

[Scott Aukerman]

Gabe.

[Max Silvestri]

Gabe was going to respond the second he came on the pod. Yeah. He assumed.

[Scott Aukerman]

Took a while.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. Waiting for that invite.

[Scott Aukerman]

My.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Were you cc'd on this? Do I actually have your info?

[Gabe Liedman]

It's possible.

[Scott Aukerman]

Let me look. Actually, I'm going to look up this. First of all, this email and just see if.

[Gabe Liedman]

Do I have your customer service at Target.

[Scott Aukerman]

I got it right there. I have. I have. It looks to be like 20 emails from you.

[Gabe Liedman]

Please, please, please, can I be on your show?

[Max Silvestri]

I'm begging you.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think a lot of. Let's see. Some of them have to do with award shows. Spirit Awards.

[Max Silvestri]

Yep.

[Scott Aukerman]

The Golden Globes.

[Gabe Liedman]

Sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I wrote some Golden Globes for Andy. Yeah, I was in Tokyo that year, but I was sending in jokes. Okay. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

About Tokyo. So they couldn't.

[Ethan Merck]

Right.

[Max Silvestri]

It didn't make sense.

[Gabe Liedman]

A lot of the movies weren't about Tokyo that year.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. Movie presenters.

[Gabe Liedman]

But I'm looking for anything personal in there.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, visiting NYC comic here.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, that. Okay. This we could talk about.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

So can I please do your live show?

[Scott Aukerman]

Here we go. This is to do. To do the live show. This is in 2009.

[Gabe Liedman]

Can I please do your live show in 2009?

[Scott Aukerman]

What? What do you. I would have loved to have had you on. What did I say?

[Gabe Liedman]

What happened?

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, I never. Never replied. Oh, oh, oh, oh, no. I said, hey, I'm not booking that far in advance yet. Usually it was the last minute, like the week of.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's so cool.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you were emailing me to say you were coming out in two months.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I said, I'm not booking that far in advance. Can you resend this email in 2010 in the future? And you said, 100%. That's easy. And then you emailed in 2009 still.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

And said following up. And then I never responded.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

So can I do it? Well, you know, I don't really book that anymore. Cause I didn't write you back.

[Max Silvestri]

Nbar got weird or whatever.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, actually, and by the way, I think I was. Yeah, I was. I think I was doing. It was a weird first season of my TV show then, too. I think I was filming then.

[Gabe Liedman]

Congratulations.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's just not a good time for me to gay. Well, I'll follow up.

[Gabe Liedman]

I'll follow up.

[Scott Aukerman]

But, man, you've had this email address for a while.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. And so have you.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Let me look for Max's email.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay. I Was looking. I couldn't find. I just want to say you were. You were polite and you were just asking us to.

[Gabe Liedman]

Incorrect. Ultimately, yeah, of course.

[Scott Aukerman]

And honestly, I didn't really know you all that well or your work.

[Max Silvestri]

No, it was generous of you to even offer feedback.

[Gabe Liedman]

You hadn't run. You hadn't been to Lincoln yet.

[Scott Aukerman]

The earliest. Earliest email I have from you is 2011. And you. And you said happy birthday to me in 2011, and you said it was nice hanging out last week. What did we do in 2011?

[Max Silvestri]

Oh, yeah, here we go. 2011. Hey, sounds interesting. Can you give me a rundown of the concept idea of the show?

[Gabe Liedman]

Barf.

[Max Silvestri]

Oh, you know what? Maybe we got on the phone.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, this makes sense. I don't like to leave a paper trail.

[Max Silvestri]

I wrote a couple sentences up and it was. They were loose. They were like, we're friends in New York and we have a live show, and now we're trying to monetize it.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Hey, Max, I have thoughts about this. If you want to hop on the phone, I could.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, that's generous. Of course.

[Max Silvestri]

It's huge. All of this is generous.

[Scott Aukerman]

And this is in 2011. Yep. So when I'm doing the second season of my television show about Slammed, it.

[Gabe Liedman]

Was about, like, two years after you ghosted me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Ghosted me. Yeah. If that just to put it into perspective helps you remember. Kind of maybe a year and a half.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

We got on the phone and you were like, how married are you to Gabe Liebman being as part of this?

[Scott Aukerman]

Because I intentionally never got back to him a year and a half ago. He's a member of the gate.

[Gabe Liedman]

I have some thoughts.

[Scott Aukerman]

This show should just turn into reading old emails, old business emails between friendly peers. Absolutely. Yeah, totally.

[Max Silvestri]

There was no hard feelings, but I just do feel like it's nice to come.

[Scott Aukerman]

You're the only one who remembers this occurring. And you intentionally didn't do your show because of whatever feedback I gave you.

[Gabe Liedman]

Because it just seemed hard. And now it's easy.

[Max Silvestri]

No.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

And thank you. I don't think our friendship would have survived. We had to do the entrepreneurial work.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, my God. If we had to do the leg work of this industry on a. On our owns nowadays, your.

[Scott Aukerman]

Your friendship is rock solid. You can.

[Max Silvestri]

We know who we are.

[Scott Aukerman]

Traverse through the podcasting game.

[Gabe Liedman]

We know who's going to take care of what.

[Max Silvestri]

We're not like, nervously thinking we are all something we're not.

[Gabe Liedman]

We're just.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, one of you is not going to Respond to emails. Not going to be good at scheduling.

[Gabe Liedman]

Correct.

[Scott Aukerman]

Which one of that is you?

[Gabe Liedman]

We're both okay at scheduling.

[Max Silvestri]

I've gotten better about responding to emails. I used to have the, like, guys, I promise I'll get back to this in two weeks. I'm setting time. I'm putting, you know, that kind of like next Friday, everything clears up for me.

[Scott Aukerman]

I have a friend who, by the way, anytime I contact him, he responds within 30 seconds. And I find it refreshing because we all pretend that we don't have these devices in our hands all the time where we're getting the messages, emails, or texts immediately and we're not looking at it within five seconds of it being sent. We should just respond. But instead we put it aside, going, like, that'll keep. I don't want to seem too thirsty. And then you forget about it for weeks.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. I'm going to write an absolute essay tonight.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's the one where I'm like, this deserves more of a response. And then I never get around to it.

[Scott Aukerman]

It like, double hurts.

[Max Silvestri]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

I gotta really put some thought into.

[Max Silvestri]

Exactly me send you an email. Do you think I should white my teeth? And you're like, okay, I gotta. I need to sit with this.

[Scott Aukerman]

Really Do a pros and cons list.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

What is he looking to hear? What should he hear? Well, yeah, we now know everybody's weaknesses, and it no longer upsets us.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's good.

[Max Silvestri]

That's the main thing is that was just like, it doesn't. Jenny's gonna always be bad at computers. I'm not.

[Gabe Liedman]

Her computer is never gonna work.

[Max Silvestri]

Yep.

[Gabe Liedman]

The tech is not gonna work.

[Scott Aukerman]

And is. Is this via Zoom because Jenny lives in New York. Is that right? And you're both in Los Angeles, so it's over Zoom. Are you guys in the same room.

[Max Silvestri]

Or are all three.

[Gabe Liedman]

We're all on Zoom in our. In our comfort.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

And that's.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, that's. That's the sign of a nice, comfortable podcast where you can be on Zoom and. Yeah. And not have to worry about things like timing and.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. Parking stuff. Stuff like that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Parking. Yeah. I hate listening to a podcast going, where did these people park?

[Gabe Liedman]

Where did they park?

[Scott Aukerman]

Was it stressful when they got there? Like, it was for me to do Gabris and. And Adam Pal show recently. And the. The. I wanted to get validated from serious. And they said, oh, no, the gate's open. And then I went down there and the goddamn gate was closed. And I had to call them. And then some.

[Max Silvestri]

Are they had the head gum thing where you got to, like, park at an angle. Rip.

[Scott Aukerman]

Rip.

[Max Silvestri]

Oh, really?

[Scott Aukerman]

That I have no idea.

[Max Silvestri]

Seems so.

[Scott Aukerman]

Who knows? Yeah, but this is a. This is a serious podcast, which also is a copro with smart list.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, smart list, exactly.

[Max Silvestri]

Kind of the, you know, three people, three friends.

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you part of the phone plan thing or.

[Gabe Liedman]

No, but Sean Hayes did plug it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

On an episode of our show.

[Scott Aukerman]

He. He plugged the phone plan.

[Max Silvestri]

He sure did.

[Scott Aukerman]

On your show.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[Max Silvestri]

Kind of like with a natural segue. I mean.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, he's a very professional guy.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. And it was like winking, but also.

[Gabe Liedman]

He was plugging it, but he fucking lands at it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, winking, like with both eyes or. Cause that's just a blink. Sorry.

[Max Silvestri]

He was nodding off.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes. He was going to sleep, but you.

[Gabe Liedman]

Wouldn'T have heard it in his voice.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, wink and blinking and not. That's what he did.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, this show is out there right now. A few episodes out already. I need you guys. Is the show and you have guests on? We do. And is it a guest every week.

[Max Silvestri]

Or is it right now? Until we burn bridges. But yeah, our first couple episodes, we have John Mulaney.

[Gabe Liedman]

Probably take a week off after coulier because there'll be a lot to sort of talk about.

[Max Silvestri]

That's a two parter.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like Gallagher on wtf.

[Gabe Liedman]

You want to sort of like, do the postmortem on that Also, I think.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think WTF ended. So you guys are getting in right at the right time. You know, you could be the podcast of record where, you know, you chase after, you know, old comics who are hacks and current presidents. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Bruce Springsteen or whatever.

[Gabe Liedman]

I can't wait to see who's president next, because we're going to talk to them.

[Max Silvestri]

Yep.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I think so. Well, I need you guys is out there right now. Several episodes are out currently. You can get it wherever podcasts are sold. How much are you selling these for? Is this like 16 an episode? 17 an episode?

[Gabe Liedman]

Well, it's 15.99.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, that's.

[Gabe Liedman]

But it's basically 16.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay, got it. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

16 bucks an episode. It's a steal at twice the price. We're gonna take a break. We have a Mentalist coming up. That's exciting. Right? And we also have someone in law enforcement. Yeah. So it's a good show. That's a.

[Gabe Liedman]

This is exciting.

[Scott Aukerman]

You guys stick around.

[Gabe Liedman]

I would love to. Yeah, I'm going to.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay, great. Yeah, I will too.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, great. All right. We're going to be Right back with more Max Silvestri, more Gabe Liebman. We'll be right back with more Comedy Bang Bang after this. Hey, this podcast, Comedy Bang Bang is brought to you by Squarespace. What's Squarespace? I've been talking about them for a decade now. Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed to help your business stand out and succeed online. Whether you're just starting out or maybe you're scaling your business, Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand and get paid all in one place. Every dream needs a domain, doesn't it? I've always said that. I said that before Squarespace came along. Every dream needs a domain. Squarespace Domains makes it easy to find the best name for your business at one fair, all inclusive price, no hidden fees or add ons required. And with Squarespace's collection of cutting edge design tools, anyone can build a beautiful professional online presence that perfectly fits their brand or business. Start with Blueprint AI, Squarespace's AI Enhanced design partner, or choose from a library of professionally designed and award winning website templates. I don't, I don't know why I'm doing this.

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[Gabe Liedman]

I met Jenny and Y2K.

[Max Silvestri]

Whoa.

[Gabe Liedman]

That puts us on the dot 25 years.

[Scott Aukerman]

Incredible.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

And Max, about 20, 21. Yeah. Yeah. And then.

[Scott Aukerman]

And did you meet them as a. As a couple?

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. Romantic.

[Gabe Liedman]

As a romantic couple.

[Scott Aukerman]

A married couple.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. And I Was trying to get in there. Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

You were a unicorn. And it still.

[Max Silvestri]

The tension drives, I think our show. And it's such a bummer that you have, you know, the like, one woman a month whatever. Like, it just didn't work out for one woman a month policy. Yeah. On the show, it would have been great to have her, which unfortunately works out great.

[Scott Aukerman]

I tried, you know, I know you guys wanted her on, but unfortunately I never responded to the email. Right, right.

[Gabe Liedman]

You'll get around to it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. We need to get to our next guest. He's in law enforcement. Enforcement. Do you guys. Have you ever met anyone in law enforcement? Ever been in trouble with a law at all or.

[Gabe Liedman]

I've been pulled over.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, I did, like, an illegal car wash in. Whoa.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, no, like, illegal bikini car wash. Whoa.

[Max Silvestri]

The bikinis were too modest. That's why we got.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay, so it was like a scam was what made it illegal.

[Max Silvestri]

They were the old style bathing costumes.

[Scott Aukerman]

In the 20s with stripes.

[Gabe Liedman]

I would have been pissed as well.

[Max Silvestri]

No, we were like ninth graders trying to wash people's cars at a time stoplight with no.

[Scott Aukerman]

No permit.

[Max Silvestri]

Permit. And kind of just screaming at the cars and yelling at them if they wouldn't let us rub a dirty rag. And then cops pulled in the parking lot to yell at us and ran over my friend's foot.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. There was a lawsuit.

[Gabe Liedman]

Did they say sorry? Oh, there was a lawsuit.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Because they crushed his foot.

[Arnold Debobo]

Wow.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, but we were doing the bad stuff, but then ran over a child's foot.

[Gabe Liedman]

Damn. Did it get huge? Like a. Like a cartoon.

[Max Silvestri]

It throbbed with his heartbeat.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, let's get to him. He is in law enforcement. Please welcome Ethan Merck.

[Ethan Merck]

Scott. Thanks for having me on.

[Max Silvestri]

Hi.

[Scott Aukerman]

Great to have you on.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wonderful to meet you. This is Max. This is Gabe.

[Ethan Merck]

Max, Gabe.

[Max Silvestri]

It's great to meet you. Pleasure.

[Ethan Merck]

Nice to meet you. This podcast you guys are doing sounds great.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, thanks. You should subscribe.

[Ethan Merck]

Okay, I'll do it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Can you smash that, like, button?

[Ethan Merck]

Sure. Is it required that I hit it with such intensity, or could I just tap it neutrally?

[Gabe Liedman]

I would go hard.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

All right.

[Gabe Liedman]

You want to feel it smash? You want to feel it smash?

[Max Silvestri]

It startle the people in the library. That's how I feel.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, I'm a smart list completist, so I'll be all over that.

[Scott Aukerman]

So how do you like Gabrison Pally show? Is that.

[Ethan Merck]

It's terrific. Finally, Gabrius is letting loose my monkey. I'm a huge John Gabris fan. And my big complaint about him so far is he reins it in too much. Too much filter.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Great to see him taken off the leash.

[Ethan Merck]

Great.

[Scott Aukerman]

Great.

[Ethan Merck]

Is just a lovely guy that I talk to all the time.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, it's great to have you, Ethan. And you're in law enforcement. In what capacity are you enforcing the law?

[Ethan Merck]

Law enforcement sort of been my lifelong career. Right now I am a bounty hunter.

[Max Silvestri]

Oh.

[Ethan Merck]

Freelance. Nice for hire. To return bad guys.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

To either law enforcement agencies or sometimes directly to the wrong department.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa.

[Gabe Liedman]

For the wronged party to do what to them?

[Ethan Merck]

If someone has gone beyond the reach of the law or to a point where the law is no longer interested.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

My services are available to bring these people to justice.

[Max Silvestri]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

This sounds. And pardon me, maybe you guys aren't getting this sense, but I'm really good. After 16 years of the show, I'm really good at reading people.

[Ethan Merck]

I can tell. I feel deeply seen.

[Scott Aukerman]

This sounds a little weird.

[Ethan Merck]

Oh, okay. Honestly, so far, I feel like this is straight normal. Well, no, I mean, it's like I'm right along the. I mean, you ask any bounty hunter, you're gonna get a.

[Max Silvestri]

But I. As a private citizen, if I have a disagreement with my wife, I guess, sure.

[Ethan Merck]

Believe me, that's often how it starts.

[Max Silvestri]

I can pay you money to have her physically brought back.

[Ethan Merck]

That's correct. To me, that is correct.

[Max Silvestri]

Because I told you, you've hired me.

[Ethan Merck]

You'Ve shared my services, told you with.

[Max Silvestri]

Money, but, like, told me proof.

[Scott Aukerman]

This sounds like it sounds like kidnapping.

[Ethan Merck]

To me because, well, perhaps, you know, we're gonna. We're gonna nitpick and. And try to.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't mean to be pedantic about things, but.

[Ethan Merck]

Please don't be pedantic.

[Gabe Liedman]

The ransoms up front is what.

[Ethan Merck]

I'll say that I do. I do a little vetting to see if it feels like there is.

[Scott Aukerman]

If. If.

[Ethan Merck]

In my opinion, it feels just.

[Gabe Liedman]

How much?

[Scott Aukerman]

What are you talking about? When you say you do fee ranges.

[Ethan Merck]

But we're talking usually several thousand dollars.

[Scott Aukerman]

No, I mean what type of stuff do you do to vet them? Not how much it costs.

[Ethan Merck]

Oh, sorry. Never been good at sales. I jumped right to the.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, look, just think about it. I don't think I'm hiring you, honestly.

[Ethan Merck]

Okay. Just. Couple grand would be just to. Just to have a. You know, for something easy. Quick and easy.

[Max Silvestri]

What's quick and easy?

[Ethan Merck]

Quick and easy is if the target is slow. If there's evidence that the target is Easy to.

[Gabe Liedman]

To get.

[Max Silvestri]

Like, if I had clear sight lines to her.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, clear sight lines. And it's like your wife, and I don't know anything about your wife, so this is about a hypothetical, but were.

[Scott Aukerman]

You to do the vetting, you would see how slow or fast, how easily.

[Ethan Merck]

Gettable she seemed to be. Is she living a life mostly, you know, on the lamb. Is she.

[Scott Aukerman]

How are you ascertaining this? Are you going on their Instagram page seeing if there's any videos or reels, I guess they call them, of her running?

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, sure. If there's. That'd be great. If there's Instagram reels of them actually running to scale with something that I can measure.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's when you say to scale. What do you mean? Like next to a pencil or.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, like the bone collector. Like a dollar bill. So you understand.

[Ethan Merck]

Exactly. Next to something where I just.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like the bone collector.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, for example, if your wife's running in a meadow. Okay. Next to just a bunch of rocks, I don't know what's going on. She could be 50ft.

[Gabe Liedman]

The rocks could be running.

[Ethan Merck]

Right.

[Max Silvestri]

You know, we have a lot of rings. I mean, I have so much of this footage.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, then this would be great.

[Max Silvestri]

A ring security footage of her running flat out as well as hard as she can out the front door in the middle of the night.

[Ethan Merck]

Great.

[Scott Aukerman]

Really?

[Max Silvestri]

Oh, yeah. Well, because, you know, we get into it and we start yelling and stuff, and this is a lot of. What's a lot?

[Scott Aukerman]

Protect the neighbors because you don't want to be so loud and wake them up.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, I send a next door alert. Being like, it's not an animal. It's, you know, my wife not understanding. It's a lot more common that I had plans already.

[Ethan Merck]

It's a lot more common than you think. People might be embarrassed to say that their wife's running out in the middle of the night multiple times on camera. Yeah, very common.

[Gabe Liedman]

Very common.

[Ethan Merck]

I would, in fact say that in my own anecdotal estimation, 95% of couples experience repeated runnings out in the middle.

[Scott Aukerman]

If they're coming to you, though.

[Ethan Merck]

If they're coming to me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Which means they already have a problem, which.

[Ethan Merck]

Okay, so it's a little bit self, you know, self selecting people who have contacted us.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's not like you're. It's not like you're out there being contacted by people saying, like, hey, by the way, I have no problem this week.

[Gabe Liedman]

I didn't.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, I don't want to hire you. Right.

[Ethan Merck]

There's no control group that I'm in touch with. I'm not doing a really extensive census. But of the people who find me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

And get in touch with me, 95% of them are in a situation where a loved one or business associate is running away.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah. And I. But I want a few. I'm on the right side here.

[Max Silvestri]

Of course.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm going after bad guys.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you said you do some vetting to figure out if they're bad people.

[Ethan Merck]

I do some vetting to see, hey, is this something worth getting involved in? Do I feel right?

[Max Silvestri]

Worth getting.

[Scott Aukerman]

No, you said that you did vetting to see if.

[Max Silvestri]

If, If.

[Scott Aukerman]

If they were bad people, not if it's worth it to you to get involved in it.

[Ethan Merck]

Both, actually. I mean, like, is it going to be worth my time? What's the publicity going to be for this?

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

Can I get it? Am I going to get a good reference after? And also, do I stand by it morally?

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

You know, that makes sense.

[Ethan Merck]

Gabe, I've never met you before.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

But you're a comedian. You're in the entertainment business.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right.

[Ethan Merck]

I bet you've stabbed some backs. I bet you had your backstabbed.

[Gabe Liedman]

I have.

[Ethan Merck]

There you go.

[Scott Aukerman]

You've had emails unreturned.

[Gabe Liedman]

I have been ghosted. And I have ghosted.

[Ethan Merck]

So there you go. You've been on both sides of it. So if one of these cases was ever costing you so much emotional trauma.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

Or money, and you needed to get a bounty hunter involved, I would be.

[Scott Aukerman]

Somebody like to get.

[Ethan Merck]

But then you'd have to convince me that you were wronged.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right. Like, if I wanted you to track down, like, the person who hosts, like, a live comedy show in. In Los Angeles that I hosted.

[Scott Aukerman]

And by the way, just.

[Max Silvestri]

Just booked.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

I wouldn't even perform. I was doing this out of the good, for free, out of the goodness of my heart.

[Ethan Merck]

You'd have to convince me that you were an ext. Extremely wronged party in that situation. Now, I did just hear the facts of this case that you are so coyly alluding to.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. What do you think?

[Ethan Merck]

I feel like it's right down the middle.

[Gabe Liedman]

I could have followed up one more time, couldn't I have?

[Ethan Merck]

I mean, you were sort of asking a favor out of nowhere.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

Someone you didn't have a real deep relationship with, and you got ghosted, which is a little.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't even know if you gave any references.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh, I can guarantee you I did not.

[Scott Aukerman]

Said you were a comedian.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Which you could. Let me, let me see. Extremely true. You said visiting.

[Max Silvestri]

Did he say in a funny way.

[Scott Aukerman]

You probably get emails like this all the damn time.

[Ethan Merck]

That's kind right there. It's a point in your favor.

[Scott Aukerman]

You gave no references supplication.

[Gabe Liedman]

I don't know why.

[Scott Aukerman]

Said you were a comedian.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

I mean right now, honestly, I feel that Mr. Aukerman was a bit more wronged and put upon just, just a titch. So not enough for me to get involved.

[Scott Aukerman]

But I, but were I to come to you and say I want to hire you to go grab Gabe here.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, because I've been wronged.

[Ethan Merck]

Because I would need a little more. I would need a little more.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, I told him to follow up in 2010. He's kept it in 2009.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, it was like the last few thousand nine.

[Ethan Merck]

Let's say that you were haunted by his initial email. When is he going to get back in touch?

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

Sort of like a nagging open.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Tell heart kind of situation.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, maybe that could be something I would need to, I would need to see that I would need to understand the damage.

[Gabe Liedman]

Got it.

[Max Silvestri]

And in both cases the other person would have need needed to physically run.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like you are on social media or, or on YouTube.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm just saying that happens a lot. I, part of what my fee is. I didn't mean to get so much into the logistics guys.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

Part of what my fee is how hard is this going to be for me to get them right.

[Scott Aukerman]

And a lot. You can do the hard work though. You can complete it.

[Ethan Merck]

I can do the hard work.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

By the way, I'm reminded by the way of another comedian that I need to respond to to be on this show. That email right now.

[Ethan Merck]

We live in the age of multitasking. Our screens are never away. Go ahead, feel free and do it.

[Max Silvestri]

No, that's okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'll, I, I, I'm, I'm remembering it now and I'm going to get back to them.

[Ethan Merck]

That's well and if not, you've got this live recording you can send to them.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's right. This is my living will in a way. Comedian, you know who you are. Look, you might be on the show next week and we'll talk about it.

[Max Silvestri]

But, but I doubt it.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Can I ask a bounty hunting in.

[Scott Aukerman]

Your experience, in your anecdotal.

[Ethan Merck]

I'd love it. Yeah, I'd love question.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, sure, sure.

[Max Silvestri]

You're saying a thousand or $2,000, like for a certain level of rough.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, that's A for a slow person.

[Ethan Merck]

That's an entry fee. There could be more. There's more. There could be more expensive.

[Max Silvestri]

That's what I'm curious about.

[Ethan Merck]

Like, let's say it's 3,000 DOL. For the initial consult.

[Max Silvestri]

Let's say my wife has run to Seattle. I don't know where in Seattle she is, but I know from what I.

[Ethan Merck]

Know about you, you love this. Right?

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, you love your baby to grow up there, not your wife to run away there.

[Max Silvestri]

Right, exactly. But it's the flip side. It's sort of like what you love is what you hate.

[Ethan Merck]

You actually run away to Seattle and.

[Max Silvestri]

What is, what is, what is? And you know, you have to go look for her there. You're in L. A. We're meeting.

[Scott Aukerman]

How much information do you need? Do you need her address? Or, like, can you do the legwork.

[Ethan Merck]

And find as much as you got? Name, Social Security number would be great.

[Scott Aukerman]

Date?

[Ethan Merck]

Of course. Like that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Do you know your wife's Social Security number?

[Max Silvestri]

I do not.

[Ethan Merck]

All right.

[Scott Aukerman]

I don't know mine either.

[Ethan Merck]

We're fighting uphill already.

[Gabe Liedman]

I know both of your wives dirty numbers. Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

Wow. What are your expenses? A day. And like, beyond gas, what are you spending money on? And how much of that would.

[Ethan Merck]

Before you get too far ahead, where I think you're going, I would need any evidence of wrongdoing at all from. From this. From this woman.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, she left her.

[Max Silvestri]

My husband. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

She's married.

[Max Silvestri]

Made a commitment to.

[Scott Aukerman]

In front of God.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. In front of, actually, my co host. So I need you guys, Gabe and Jenny. Who married us.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes. We were the officiates, the co. Rabbis.

[Max Silvestri]

So she didn't only betray me, she wronged my business partners. David, Jenny.

[Ethan Merck]

That's some good info. All right, I'm feeling this. This sounds like a real. A real rat.

[Scott Aukerman]

What are we, 49? 51.

[Ethan Merck]

For like 51% chance of being a. You know, 50. 50 of these two. Who's bad? She's 51%.

[Scott Aukerman]

She's 51. Okay, so you'll take the case so far?

[Ethan Merck]

I'm on that side.

[Gabe Liedman]

You should know.

[Scott Aukerman]

She's. I got.

[Ethan Merck]

I'll be honest. I needed to go, like, to 60. I can't just go on a 51 chance of.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you're like Sammy Hagar in that regard.

[Ethan Merck]

I can't. Yeah. I can't chase 55s.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

That's the song.

[Max Silvestri]

But assuming I give you the evidence you need, and I could obviously find emails that just cast her in an insane light for You.

[Scott Aukerman]

This guy's amazing at finding emails that cast people in terrible.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. Without the context surrounding. So let's say you've gotten to 60%. Whatever you need to.

[Ethan Merck]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Max Silvestri]

Are we talking, like, what sort of lunches are you buying yourself? I just. This is my money.

[Ethan Merck]

Serviceable. Serviceable.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm talking like gas station. Higher sandwiches.

[Max Silvestri]

That's what I'm. Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm gonna say a waiter is gonna hand it to me, but it doesn't.

[Gabe Liedman]

Got a waiter.

[Max Silvestri]

That's my.

[Scott Aukerman]

So we're talking tips.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, but I mean, it could. We're talking. It could be TGI Fridays. It could be, you know, something, something.

[Gabe Liedman]

But not Chipotle. Like, not counter service.

[Scott Aukerman]

Not fast. Casual.

[Gabe Liedman]

Not fast.

[Ethan Merck]

You know, I would do Chipotle. Chipotle or high.

[Gabe Liedman]

It's pretty good.

[Scott Aukerman]

Chipotle are higher.

[Ethan Merck]

Chipotle are higher level.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, Chipotle has fresh ingredients.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right.

[Ethan Merck]

That's. They're included. I'd be happy with the Chipotle. Let's say that level. Lunch meals. Nope.

[Scott Aukerman]

But Pollo Loco.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Pollo Loco.

[Ethan Merck]

Sorry. The authentic Spanish talked me into Spanish mode.

[Scott Aukerman]

Do you speak multiple languages? Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

In order to do this constantly crossing.

[Ethan Merck]

The border, you can't do it conscious.

[Max Silvestri]

It's only when.

[Scott Aukerman]

When somebody flips the switch makes me.

[Ethan Merck]

I, Jason Bourn. I break into a language I didn't expect. God.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sorry.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm exhausted. You need water.

[Scott Aukerman]

Here.

[Ethan Merck]

Don't need it.

[Max Silvestri]

Listen, it was like when, you know, what you. You read about, like, where someone has, like, an epileptic seizure and they wake up and they can speak Mandarin. It's like. It's like that.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's like.

[Max Silvestri]

It was such an. You never expected that.

[Scott Aukerman]

That was crazy to witness it anyway.

[Ethan Merck]

Pollo Loco. Sorry, I can't even say with p. God damn it. El Pollo Loco. Yeah, sure. I love it. I love it. But I'd probably go higher. I mean, like, listen, I'm not gonna be.

[Scott Aukerman]

You love it. And you would deny yourself the pleasure. I think I'd go.

[Ethan Merck]

I think I could do better.

[Max Silvestri]

You setting.

[Ethan Merck]

I think any place where there's an. I think I'd look around. I bet you I could. Right? I bet you I could beat it. Within eyesight. I think I could.

[Max Silvestri]

This is my money. And this is a lot of the main reason I'm fighting with my wife. And you're saying Chipotle are higher. There's no ceiling. What is your rain ceiling?

[Ethan Merck]

I'll give you a ceiling. Caviar chain restaurant waiter.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

That's the top level.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's where you're gonna max out. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay. So are you doing.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, it could be a Chili's. Yeah, sure.

[Max Silvestri]

What about, like a Hillstone group? Because there's Houston's, there's Beverly Grill. Those are all. Technically, I'll take those. Appreciate that. Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm not. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to nickel and dime.

[Max Silvestri]

You nowhere with a raw bar. How about we agree on that and if you get my wife home to me by the weekends, we're square.

[Scott Aukerman]

Then you can have.

[Gabe Liedman]

Then you can have raw seafood as a reward. Yes.

[Ethan Merck]

So what are we talking here? No raw bar on the road. But if I succeed in the mission.

[Max Silvestri]

Raw bar. We go out together and I'm not.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like a half hour later or upon delivery. Like, what?

[Max Silvestri]

Well, does he have to wait around your stuff with my wife?

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

And this is.

[Ethan Merck]

Again, I'm not at 60% for your wife yet, but assuming that you can give me enough dirt on her that I think she's 60% the wrong. The wronging party.

[Max Silvestri]

Sure.

[Ethan Merck]

In your relationship. Then this is all good.

[Scott Aukerman]

Do you have any other intel for. I mean, it sounds like you're kind of. You're going to be interested in hiring Ethan over.

[Ethan Merck]

You're going to have to buy plane fair. We're going to Seattle.

[Max Silvestri]

I'm going to. That's why I'm paying you.

[Ethan Merck]

You got to come with me. I need you at my side.

[Scott Aukerman]

Your business plan?

[Ethan Merck]

Yes.

[Scott Aukerman]

He should just go then. And do it by himself.

[Ethan Merck]

No, I'll handle the dirty work. You got to hire.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's hiring you because he has shit to do here.

[Max Silvestri]

He's got.

[Ethan Merck]

It won't take long. Seattle.

[Max Silvestri]

I have a podcast. We have an episode a week to go to Seattle.

[Ethan Merck]

Get on Zoom. No one noticed from Seattle.

[Arnold Debobo]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I don't know. So this every single case?

[Ethan Merck]

Not every single. But if. If, if they can.

[Max Silvestri]

Great.

[Ethan Merck]

That makes it a lot easier. You can stay in the hotel.

[Max Silvestri]

Just accompanying you on the flight.

[Scott Aukerman]

You're sharing a hotel room.

[Ethan Merck]

Would you eyeballer? I'll be like, okay, you head on back to the Howard Johnson's. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go do this.

[Scott Aukerman]

What if he's willing to get two separate hotel rooms? One for him, one for you.

[Ethan Merck]

That's on you.

[Max Silvestri]

Is this about needing my credit card at Chipotle and stuff? Because I'm willing to reimburse you after.

[Ethan Merck]

It's not. It's not about that. It's just about the I.D. i mean, it's. Logistically, it's a lot easier if you're there to pay for everything up front.

[Max Silvestri]

Sure. I gave you 20 videos of her running in her pajamas. And you need me to.

[Ethan Merck]

I could probably do it. She's. She's running away from the camera, though.

[Scott Aukerman]

Running multiple other cameras.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, Running away from one to another.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right.

[Ethan Merck]

No, you're right.

[Scott Aukerman]

How many cameras do you have at your estates? You have, like.

[Ethan Merck]

You have, like, ones at the end of the driveway catching her coming.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, exactly. So it's the kind of thing where you're like, now, let's jump over to this camera.

[Ethan Merck]

You got good coverage.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she's always running away.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, if there's good footage of her face in a way that I. Okay, you're right. I would not need you to come along if I've got good footage of her.

[Gabe Liedman]

But you would still want him to.

[Ethan Merck]

I mean, it'd be great.

[Scott Aukerman]

So if you're.

[Ethan Merck]

I didn't know it was going to.

[Scott Aukerman]

Be such a sticky.

[Ethan Merck]

I thought it'd be fun, but. All right, listen, if this is like, I'm. I'm a businessman and I respect you, so. Yeah, you don't have to come along.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you're tracking these people from. From their face. You need clear fit.

[Ethan Merck]

Like, I got a note in my gut.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you're. You're just wandering around a city like Seattle, just looking at faces, trying to.

[Ethan Merck]

That's the end game. I'll do. I'll do some. I'll do some legwork on the Internet first and try to narrow things down.

[Scott Aukerman]

Of course. So what. What kind of legwork? Like, you enter her name plus Seattle, minus AI.

[Ethan Merck]

So I'm sensing some disdain. It's a little bit harder than that. It's a little bit harder.

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you on, like, different websites that we're not on? Like, law enforcement websites and stuff like that?

[Ethan Merck]

My history in the law enforcement agency has given me access.

[Scott Aukerman]

What is your history?

[Ethan Merck]

I was an assistant sheriff in New Fairfield, Connecticut.

[Gabe Liedman]

Wow.

[Ethan Merck]

For almost two years.

[Scott Aukerman]

What is an assistant.

[Gabe Liedman]

Almost two years?

[Scott Aukerman]

When I was the elect beat cop.

[Ethan Merck]

Before that.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

Assistant sheriff's not voted. They're appointed by the sheriff.

[Scott Aukerman]

It sounds like it's an assistant job.

[Ethan Merck]

It was a lot of secretarial work, but I had a badge and a gun and potentially. Yep.

[Scott Aukerman]

Would you ever type on the computer with the gun?

[Ethan Merck]

I mean, I can't say it didn't happen. That wasn't something I thought about a lot.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right, sure. Right.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah. Sort of Chico Mark style.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Ethan Merck]

We kind of fun. Shoot the keys.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

You're on one of those websites where ads start popping up. You can't close the windows. You point your gun at the screen. So mad.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

The X isn't the X. The X is actually opening up another ad. It's supposed to close the window. This should be illegal.

[Ethan Merck]

What's going on with that?

[Gabe Liedman]

What is going on?

[Ethan Merck]

So you have access to some law enforcement, some private security info, something that only the lawmen are supposed to have access. Access to. I still.

[Scott Aukerman]

License plate numbers you can track.

[Ethan Merck]

I can run a license plate number. I can run a Social Security number. I can check some plane ticket purchases, credit cards. Credit card. Some. Some of the. If it's a major credit card, I have access. If it's a cool fringy one, it can be a little stickier.

[Scott Aukerman]

So the major one, like a debit card from, like a small smart list.

[Gabe Liedman]

Card or something like that?

[Ethan Merck]

Could be, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

But you know, the smart list, you can track that? I'd.

[Ethan Merck]

Probably not yet. Probably not yet. It's probably too new.

[Gabe Liedman]

Wow. Are you implying that they don't have a ton of customers yet?

[Ethan Merck]

Well, I'm not saying anything about your employer. I'm.

[Max Silvestri]

Are you saying there's not a lot of people out there that aren't willing to transfer, aren't doing cell phone and two.

[Scott Aukerman]

Three comedians.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm sorry. Two comedians and one actor.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, I'm not saying that at all. Sounds like a great business idea. Sounds like a great business.

[Max Silvestri]

Because it was a big decision for me to go from Ryan Reynolds to Sean Hayes in terms of all my banking.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's a lateral move in a lot of respects, but for foam, I don't.

[Gabe Liedman]

Know phones, it's hard. It depends where you live.

[Ethan Merck]

The Ride Reynolds Network. Cricket, right? That's Cricket. Is that right?

[Max Silvestri]

I think so, yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

So I thought it was mint Mobile.

[Ethan Merck]

Okay. Whatever it is, he's not in the network yet. It takes a while to get off.

[Scott Aukerman]

To get on the law enforcement radar.

[Max Silvestri]

Is that because a lot of criminals use Ryan Reynolds networks?

[Ethan Merck]

Because a lot of criminal crimes don't use it. It's not worth it. It's not worth traffic. It's not worth it.

[Gabe Liedman]

I see.

[Max Silvestri]

Got it.

[Ethan Merck]

But I do have access to a lot of these, so, yeah. I would check these sites, get some background information.

[Max Silvestri]

I have an accessory girlfriend who. I've always wondered why she got divorced. And I think that's divorced up here.

[Ethan Merck]

Do you know?

[Max Silvestri]

No. No.

[Scott Aukerman]

We were.

[Max Silvestri]

We never got married.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

She got married after we were together. That's her business. I'm not mad about her.

[Scott Aukerman]

And you were not in touch with her at this point?

[Max Silvestri]

No, we broke up hard. Broke up hard. And then she got married. Okay. There's a wedding announcement.

[Scott Aukerman]

How soon? Soon after. Yeah. Thanks.

[Max Silvestri]

Not long enough. Like, I believe that there was some overlap too soon.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay. Overlap.

[Max Silvestri]

So like even though it's all our business to move on, you know, there's some. There's some. There's some emotion in my younger years.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then you're wondering why she got divorced.

[Max Silvestri]

They got divorced not much longer after. But I. I am.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because you thought there was maybe overlap in that as well, or you. You wonder if she was at fault?

[Max Silvestri]

No, I'm. I'm just wondering if her reason for divorces still feel bad about what I did to my ex boyfriend. It'd be great to see that records. And there are those websites where they're like, if you pay, we can unlock these records.

[Scott Aukerman]

But it sounds to me like what Ethan does is. Goes and finds her and brings her back to you.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, I can't really get. There's not of. In the records about intention.

[Max Silvestri]

You have to say why you're divorcing someone.

[Ethan Merck]

Feelings. Yeah. There could be a stated reason, but that could.

[Scott Aukerman]

But would you be willing to do that to. You've heard I can round her up. This sounds like a. This sounds like a 60 to me.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, this. She's past 60 already. Yeah, for sure.

[Max Silvestri]

For sure.

[Ethan Merck]

She got married right away. Dump this asshole too.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Bring her over to Max.

[Ethan Merck]

I'll get her. Yeah, that.

[Max Silvestri]

But I don't want to go with you to get her. I mean, I imagine.

[Ethan Merck]

Sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you free this weekend?

[Ethan Merck]

Where she. How bad is it?

[Scott Aukerman]

Don't.

[Max Silvestri]

Must most of your customers come to you at a really low point in their life? Like they don't want to take a vacation with you.

[Scott Aukerman]

They.

[Ethan Merck]

They. They want out of their lives. Usually they want a break. But. Look, I'm not. You don't have to come. I'll. I'll send you an itinerary. Go if you want. You don't have to go.

[Scott Aukerman]

You can pop in and out too if you want.

[Max Silvestri]

Like if there's something else. Else going on in the city if.

[Scott Aukerman]

You don't want to do the yoga at 10am you don't have to. These are wedding rules. What. What kind of hotels are you staying at?

[Max Silvestri]

I'm having a lazy day. That's what I'm gonna say to you.

[Ethan Merck]

Nothing fancy again. Serviceable. Just.

[Scott Aukerman]

Just.

[Ethan Merck]

Just something. Just a Nice place to lay your head.

[Scott Aukerman]

How many stars?

[Ethan Merck]

Sheraton, four points. What do we got?

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Gabe Liedman]

Beautiful.

[Ethan Merck]

Look at like a budget business hotel N. I won't go Omni. That's crazy.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Too. Too expensive.

[Ethan Merck]

That's too expensive.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

That's too much, but okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Radisson's.

[Ethan Merck]

I'll do Radisson. Sure. Radon by the airport.

[Scott Aukerman]

Radisson by.

[Ethan Merck]

So you prefer downtown Radisson's. Now we're talking money. But by the airport.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's for the valet. Did you ever valet the car? Is that part of the expense? Never.

[Ethan Merck]

Never valet la.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay. Park my own damn self park how.

[Ethan Merck]

Many Self park it.

[Scott Aukerman]

How many tickets?

[Gabe Liedman]

Even off the clock, you're self parking only.

[Ethan Merck]

Self parking? Yeah, just throw by the airport.

[Max Silvestri]

It's not always safe in the structure at night. I just be careful, I guess. You're a bounty hunter.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm a bounty hunter. Let him try.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes. Ever gotten. Shit's got heavy.

[Ethan Merck]

Shit's gotten heavy.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Tell us.

[Scott Aukerman]

Tell us some of these stories. I don't know why we're getting into the weeds about your process.

[Ethan Merck]

I don't know either. I didn't invite that line of questioning that I was not the momentum behind it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Tell us about.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm happy me to talk about whatever.

[Scott Aukerman]

Tell us about some of your. Oh, you know what? We're running out of time. Oh, that's all right. That's all right. So sorry.

[Ethan Merck]

That's okay. Hey, really, it's fine.

[Scott Aukerman]

We're running out of time. We gotta take a break. This is too bad, but can you stick around maybe Some. Some of the. Some of these stories might pop up in conversation. Yeah, I mean, I got some good ones.

[Ethan Merck]

I got some very juicy, violent stories. But you're the host.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right, well, we're gonna take a break. When we come back, Ethan Merck is gonna stick around. We're also gonna have Max Silvestri, Gabe Liebman. We'll be right back with more comedy ban. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, reaching out to someone that you haven't talked to in a long time. It feels good. I just had lunch with a friend that I hadn't seen in a few years. It was great to reconnect, talk our lives, what's different, all that kind of stuff, you know. And as the seasons change, shorter days don't have to weigh you down. This season better help encourage you. So encourage use. Encourages use guys to reach out to people, you know, check in on friends, reconnect with loved ones, remind them you're here. It just takes a little courage to send that text or grab coffee with someone you haven't seen in a while. But you know what? Reaching out for therapy? That can feel difficult too. But it's oh so worth it. It can leave people wondering, why didn't I do this sooner? And with over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is one of the world's largest online therapy platforms. BetterHelp therapists are fully licensed in the US and BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can just focus on your therapy goals. And this month, don't wait to reach out. Whether you're checking in on a friend, reaching out to a therapist yourself, BetterHelp makes it easier to take that first step. Our listeners get 10% off their first [e-mail] BangBang that is betterhelp.com Bang Bang Morning Zoe. Got donuts. Jeff Bridges why are you still living above our garage? Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T Mobile.

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[Max Silvestri]

John Mulaney.

[Gabe Liedman]

John Mulaney's up there.

[Max Silvestri]

Jesse Klein, Michelle Buteau, Sean Hayes.

[Gabe Liedman]

Kumail the Great.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes. I can't get these people on my show.

[Gabe Liedman]

Wonderful.

[Scott Aukerman]

Comes on.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah, you can get crawl. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Kumail. Hugh G. Just did it.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay. So you get some of these.

[Ethan Merck]

The rest, though, walking this back.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Geez.

[Scott Aukerman]

Jesse did my other show. The rest. The rest don't respond anymore.

[Max Silvestri]

We're calling in a lot of chips.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

And we're gonna burn that. Those bridges.

[Gabe Liedman]

It will be strangers soon enough.

[Scott Aukerman]

So how is it for you? Because, you know, you used to be, up till just a couple of months ago, you used to be comedians that people would ask, hey, come do my podcast. And you would roll your eyes and go, all right, now you're the one out there saying, come do my podcast.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

How's it feel?

[Gabe Liedman]

I have a lot of guilt about it.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Am I bothering this person?

[Gabe Liedman]

Am I bothering them? I, you know, I. I do feel like I'm getting in their way.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Of the flow of their day.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Especially a Zoom. Like a Zoom podcast, we require a lot of technical know how they need.

[Scott Aukerman]

To have over ear headphones.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes.

[Max Silvestri]

Not only are we old friends, but you need to navigate Gate Streamyard and QuickTime Recordings.

[Gabe Liedman]

Man. How.

[Max Silvestri]

How would you love to leave your computer open in this hotel room while you. You finish the Dropbox upload? Like it's. It's stuff like that.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is too much on people. Well, it sounds like a dynamite show, though. It's out there right now. We also have Ethan Mercus here, but we need to get to our next guest.

[Ethan Merck]

Ran right by me quick.

[Scott Aukerman]

We need to get to our next guest. It's fine with me.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm just Ethan just sitting there or something. All right.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's been sitting here Waiting to come on.

[Ethan Merck]

My apologies.

[Scott Aukerman]

He's a mentalist. This is so exciting. I'm.

[Max Silvestri]

I'm.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm fascinated with mentalists. Please welcome to the show Arnold Debobo.

[Arnold Debobo]

Oh, Scott, thank you so much for having me on.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's my pleasure.

[Arnold Debobo]

Been enjoying listening to you guys chat. I love the show. I love comedy.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sorry that we. We took so long to get to you, but Ethan here wouldn't, you know, honestly shut up about it.

[Ethan Merck]

I didn't know I was running long. My apologies.

[Scott Aukerman]

Hotels and.

[Arnold Debobo]

No, it helps me before my shows. What I'll do is I'll kind of scope out the audience. I'll listen to what they say.

[Scott Aukerman]

It.

[Arnold Debobo]

I'm not doing sorcery. I can clear some stuff up about mentalism right now.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is it actual? Is it magic? Is it sorcery?

[Max Silvestri]

Is esp.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's not esp. I can't actually read minds. I don't have superpowers.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's like a trick or. It's.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's. I'm using techniques that are out there. There's psychological.

[Scott Aukerman]

So it's like if you went to go get a massage and someone was to. To do the massage, and then afterwards you go, wow, that feels good. Was that sorcery? No, you just say, it's a technique.

[Arnold Debobo]

I'm able to do this technique.

[Max Silvestri]

And that's what you do?

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah. They've worked at it for their whole life.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right. Do you give massages ever?

[Arnold Debobo]

I. I do. I do give foot massages.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, good.

[Arnold Debobo]

People don't enjoy them.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, they're. They're unasked.

[Arnold Debobo]

No, they're. They're not good. They make people uncomfortable.

[Gabe Liedman]

You go right for the bone.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, I'm not good at it. And I think that's actually what makes me maybe the greatest mentalist out there. There's some really good mentalists. Oz Perlman, for example, he charms people. He. He's very funny. I'm more off putting. Audiences are uncomfortable around me.

[Scott Aukerman]

They put massages.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah. That's one example of. Of what's disturbing about me. Yeah. So they'll immediately kind of put brick walls up and I've got to smash through those walls.

[Scott Aukerman]

What are your other. Yeah, I'm sorry, Max.

[Max Silvestri]

I know. It just. It feels like to me, what I imagine and I don't know anything about it, like a mentalist should be able, unbelievably, to read people's cues and micro signals, but you have a blind spot around feet or like, why are you not able to read?

[Scott Aukerman]

Or your own personality.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's my own personality.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

So you're unable to mentalize yourself saying, like, oh, I'm annoying.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, that's right. I. I can kind of pick up on it. I know after a while, I'm able to make some adjustments.

[Scott Aukerman]

You can see, like, people's eyes kind of, like looking past you. Yeah. The other people in the party, I' to.

[Arnold Debobo]

I've got to scope that out. I've got to work with that and still get that information out.

[Scott Aukerman]

And yet you don't have the wherewithal to realize, like, oh, I'm not interesting, I should tell better stories or.

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, it's been helpful for me. It's been my whole life. I mean, like a lot of people, I got into this as a young man to meet girls. Sure.

[Gabe Liedman]

That is off putting. Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

So I. Well, I would go to parties and they would want me to leave so desperately. I would say, well, if you give me your number, and I would get a lot of numbers that way.

[Ethan Merck]

What was the rest of that sentence?

[Max Silvestri]

If you want your sock back.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, if you give me your number. Oh, then you'll leave.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's right. Yes, you can.

[Scott Aukerman]

And did any of these numbers actually work or were they a lot of them?

[Arnold Debobo]

What they call. Yeah, they're. They're phony numbers.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is a copy. That's what they call. Phony numbers.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. Scott used to give that out for his live show that he booked.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's right.

[Max Silvestri]

Sort of a decoy, I think.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think that you tried to call me on one of those phony numbers numbers for advice about your podcast.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah, yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

Either it's a friend who kind of is up on it and they'll mess with you a little bit and we'll get a good laugh out of that, or it's just a number that doesn't exist at all.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, Ethan, I'm sorry. I feel like we're making the same mistake. Yeah, no, Arnold is your name. I feel like we're making the same mistake that we made with Ethan where we're talking about your process too much instead of actually getting into what you do.

[Arnold Debobo]

Sure, sure. Yeah. This is entertainment. I can entertain a little bit and can. We can kind of go along with.

[Scott Aukerman]

Entertain us a lot. That's what I would prefer. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is your one shot to be on Comedy.

[Max Silvestri]

Bang bang.

[Arnold Debobo]

Just like Max. Think of a year. Okay. Just clear your mind. Look. Okay, okay, I'm gonna get close here. I'm gonna pick up.

[Ethan Merck]

Holy crap. He's really Moving in the year.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

Really think about it. Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Why are you taking off?

[Arnold Debobo]

His son, you got the year.

[Ethan Merck]

Massaging his feet.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay, so it's not a blueberry, it's a toe. You don't have to squeeze it like that.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay, now let me do some mentalism.

[Scott Aukerman]

You don't, by the way, just.

[Arnold Debobo]

I end all these by saying, you've been mentalized.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, okay. But a little feedback from me.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

And Max took feedback from me and he's got a podcast out of it.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

You don't have to say, let me do some mental. Okay, we expect that from you.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

Hey, Scott, can I give you some feedback on your feedback?

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure.

[Ethan Merck]

I thought that was great.

[Max Silvestri]

Thanks.

[Scott Aukerman]

Thanks. But it's not your second.

[Arnold Debobo]

We're doing an audio.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm not trying to work my way in.

[Arnold Debobo]

We're doing it in an audio medium. I just want the audience to know what's going on. And Max, you didn't think of a year, did you? You weren't thinking of a year at all. You didn't listen to my instructions.

[Ethan Merck]

Oh, holy.

[Max Silvestri]

You're actually. You're right.

[Arnold Debobo]

And you were thinking, what?

[Ethan Merck]

And that's not sorcery.

[Arnold Debobo]

These are just cues I'm picking up from it. You're thinking, why is this guy so close to me? How can he get out of my personal space? And you thought of a number. How far back you want me to be? And it's five feet further away.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's incredible.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is that true? Is that true?

[Ethan Merck]

That's amazing.

[Max Silvestri]

Both backing myself, like, imagining myself.

[Scott Aukerman]

Were you imagining like a yardstick and seeing one and two thirds yardsticks?

[Max Silvestri]

Actually, what I was thinking of the whole time was I immediately pictured a distance. Distance. And then I was like, it's like Rhea Perlman lying down. I was like, trying to, like, figure out how long it was. So I wasn't thinking about it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Not as far as DeVito, but.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Who's taller? Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

And these.

[Scott Aukerman]

These are the age old questions.

[Max Silvestri]

The point is, I was thinking about a year. I was kind of like a real taller hair.

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, I mean, it's interesting. I don't want to tell you how the sausage is made, but.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right.

[Arnold Debobo]

You know, toes have what Feet have what nails. Two inches shorter feet of feet of five toes. Okay, okay, five feet. Maybe that put that in your head. And that's kind of how I'm manipulating these things.

[Max Silvestri]

There was a cadence of how you squeeze my big toe that now I'm realizing maybe you were pulsing. It was sort of like 1, 2 3, 4, 5. Pause. 1, 2, 3, 4.

[Scott Aukerman]

But this is. Is. I mean, that's incredible that you were.

[Gabe Liedman]

Able to pick that up.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, a lot of mentalists would maybe just take a stab or try to implant a number in his head or something, you know, but you.

[Ethan Merck]

You actually, I thought it was just that you had freaked him out so much he was thinking about you getting away with him.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's part of it. That's part of it. It's my natural ability to kind of turn people off. Wants them, and I know that's coming, so I'll use that. And that's how I book a lot of corporate jobs.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, cool. Okay. Do you want to try again with one of the other people here or.

[Arnold Debobo]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Ethan Merck]

So do me.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay, great.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, you can ask a little nicer.

[Ethan Merck]

Do me.

[Max Silvestri]

Now. He has a gun on his.

[Arnold Debobo]

Ethan, I want you to think of a historical figure.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Arnold Debobo]

Actually, let's visualize it. Can you Google image search? You have your phone in front. Let's Google image search a historical figure.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right. One that he's thought of or just should he Google historical figures and see what pops up?

[Arnold Debobo]

I think the one that he thought of would be. Be more helpful because then we can actually.

[Ethan Merck]

The Google image search. And is it all right if I use DuckDuckGo?

[Scott Aukerman]

I guess. Do you have to.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm not a fan of Google. Is that all right if I DuckDuckGo image search?

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, yeah, that. All right.

[Scott Aukerman]

Does it work as well?

[Arnold Debobo]

And you have it? I'm thinking about it. Okay. Let me look at you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay. Ethan, you didn't actually Google image search, did you? Or DuckDuckGo? You didn't look up the photo.

[Max Silvestri]

Photo?

[Ethan Merck]

I. I did not.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay. Did you text your partner? You have a romance. You have a girlfriend and you text. Yeah. You have a situation and you. And you. You. You sent her a code that you have when you're socially in trouble and you want an excuse to break away.

[Scott Aukerman]

I did.

[Ethan Merck]

I said.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yep.

[Ethan Merck]

I sent my.

[Max Silvestri]

And it's an emoji.

[Ethan Merck]

It's.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's.

[Ethan Merck]

It. It is an emotion.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Arnold Debobo]

And it's.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's a.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's an alarm. It's a siren.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, you're a little bit off there. It's a fire truck.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay. Okay. It has a siren on top of it.

[Ethan Merck]

There's two sirens on it, but the primary image is a truck.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay. Yeah, sorry about that.

[Ethan Merck]

It's all right.

[Scott Aukerman]

But it's a close up of the top of the truck where the siren is.

[Max Silvestri]

The top down view of a fire.

[Ethan Merck]

Top level emoji, Top level view of fire truck emoji, the siren and front and center.

[Max Silvestri]

But I think with the fire seeds.

[Arnold Debobo]

And you know, this is part of it. This is part of it. And Scott, could you hand me that envelope that I sent to the studio?

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, yeah, this, oh, this came a week ago. Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

And you know, and actually hand it straight. I don't even want to touch this thing.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, but you, I don't want to touch it.

[Arnold Debobo]

Hand it straight. Hand it straight to Ethan.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, here you go, Ethan.

[Arnold Debobo]

And Ethan, open that up and there's.

[Scott Aukerman]

You see the postmark?

[Arnold Debobo]

You see that postmark?

[Ethan Merck]

Okay, I do see it.

[Arnold Debobo]

So, and, and that's.

[Scott Aukerman]

What kind of stamp is that?

[Gabe Liedman]

That's.

[Arnold Debobo]

Those are in.

[Scott Aukerman]

They look to be like commemorative.

[Arnold Debobo]

They're commemorative for the space program.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, wow.

[Ethan Merck]

Well, you know what? I still get happy thinking about the space program.

[Max Silvestri]

And those women were the first astronauts who were.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, those, those were the women.

[Max Silvestri]

It's all women and they're crying.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, those are the first astronauts rejected. Yeah, those were the teams.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's when they said caption says first rejects.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Arnold Debobo]

And I think that's beautiful that they.

[Ethan Merck]

Did that deserve to be remembered.

[Gabe Liedman]

Hidden figures. No longer.

[Max Silvestri]

The first year they allowed divorced women to apply. None got in.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, but they did. They did apply.

[Scott Aukerman]

They were allowed to apply.

[Ethan Merck]

It's an honor just to be applied inside that envelope.

[Arnold Debobo]

As you can see, toy truck, fire truck.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh my God.

[Ethan Merck]

Holy shit.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's crazy.

[Max Silvestri]

Sirens right on top.

[Arnold Debobo]

You've been mentalized.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wow.

[Ethan Merck]

You just got mentalized.

[Scott Aukerman]

Now.

[Ethan Merck]

Hang a minute. That is witchcraft.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's amazing.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm going to call it what it is.

[Scott Aukerman]

You didn't say you've been mental.

[Arnold Debobo]

I think I did. I think there was a lot going on.

[Scott Aukerman]

Crosstalk.

[Ethan Merck]

Scott, can I give some feedback on what you just said there? You were right on the money.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is his segment though, and I'm.

[Ethan Merck]

Really not trying to extend my real estate here.

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, when you go back, maybe I'll say it softly and everyone will kind of just have it in their subconscious.

[Scott Aukerman]

Got it. Well, that this is blown away crazy because I mean, normally a mentalist picks up on physical cues to see or tries to implant. So did you implant, plant something in his head beforehand or while you were here that you knew a week ago that you were going to send this, this fire truck to. I don't know how you did this.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I did start a small, a fire outside the studio.

[Max Silvestri]

I Don't know if you noticed that.

[Arnold Debobo]

It wasn't massive but it made a lot of smoke. It kicked up a lot of smoke. I was, yeah, yeah I was kind of putting out cigarettes. It scared some people.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean la.

[Ethan Merck]

You know during fire feel triggered.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's very dry. But you know what? It did just rain here and it was safe and I thought I could get away with it. And even just that that brief more.

[Scott Aukerman]

Criminal say I thought I could get away with it.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

I'll just go bad for him now.

[Ethan Merck]

So. Nice.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

Be honesty.

[Arnold Debobo]

Sometimes the police do use me and.

[Ethan Merck]

I feel like hiring you right now. I'm scared out of my mind.

[Max Silvestri]

But I, I.

[Scott Aukerman]

The two of you working together, that.

[Arnold Debobo]

Would be a lot of mentalists. They don't want to work with law enforcement. I don't mind.

[Scott Aukerman]

What way you don't mind?

[Arnold Debobo]

No.

[Gabe Liedman]

Why don't most people I.

[Arnold Debobo]

Why, why don't most Mentalist?

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman]

Why?

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, because it is again, it's not sorcery. It is for entertainment. They don't want actual cases to be decided. Mentalism isn't allowed in court. They, they won't accept it. They can't use it to process even.

[Scott Aukerman]

If a lawyer just wanted to do it for fun in court one day.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

I think it's cuz you're not allowed to take someone's shoes and socks off in court.

[Ethan Merck]

Honestly, it goes both ways. Law enforcement doesn't want to work with Mentalist and I, I'm, I'm sorry to say what I'm about to say because I don't mean to start a Friday or anything because we don't respect your profession and we think you're a bunch of scumbag.

[Arnold Debobo]

I understand that. Particularly I. A lot of officers have a problem with.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, I have.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Ethan Merck]

Up until this.

[Arnold Debobo]

What I'll do is I'll go in, I'll talk to a suspect and let's.

[Scott Aukerman]

Say they bring you in when there's a suspect.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, there's a suspect. Maybe they want a confession or they want some evidence so they don't bring.

[Scott Aukerman]

You in when like it's a cold case.

[Arnold Debobo]

Someone to read.

[Scott Aukerman]

They already have someone. They, they know who did it.

[Ethan Merck]

It's a last resort when you bring in a mental. In New Fairfield, when I was the assistant secretary by the time we brought in the mentalists it was last resort. We had no nowhere else.

[Scott Aukerman]

But this is when they've already captured the.

[Max Silvestri]

But there is a ticking clock on the interrogate. Usually you only have 24 hours before you Charge the person. So it's. They. They've tried.

[Arnold Debobo]

And.

[Scott Aukerman]

But they're like, they are desperate.

[Arnold Debobo]

If they're bringing me in, they're extra desperate.

[Max Silvestri]

Okay, what happens?

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, I. I'll talk to one of these suspects, and a lot of times they'll think they'll fantasize maybe about hurting me in some way.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure.

[Arnold Debobo]

And I can. I can pick that up.

[Max Silvestri]

I choose the electric chair, that kind of thing.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

And. And frequently. What they'll do is they'll fantasize about hurting me with maybe a weapon that they committed another crime with, and I can help the authorities find these weapons. You've been mentalized.

[Max Silvestri]

Take me back to the. The creek. I want to get my hair hammer.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

Right.

[Arnold Debobo]

And then I want to smash it into Arnaud's face.

[Ethan Merck]

Right. So I've got a gentle question. I mean, to ask here.

[Scott Aukerman]

Gentle.

[Ethan Merck]

Ethan, I'm trying so hard.

[Scott Aukerman]

Easy.

[Ethan Merck]

Is it. Is it techniques you're using, or.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sounds like you're just reading someone's mind.

[Ethan Merck]

No, I'm trying to be careful about this. I'm scanning ahead. Are you just so insanely gross? I mean, is that a talent?

[Scott Aukerman]

Are you so contemptuous?

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, I am gross enough that it is beneficial to what I do, but I try to jujitsu that and use.

[Scott Aukerman]

It because I don't like to talk about physical. Yes. Physical attributes. But you're. You're unattractive.

[Arnold Debobo]

I'm kind of classically unattractive.

[Scott Aukerman]

Smell bad.

[Arnold Debobo]

I do smell.

[Ethan Merck]

I don't do. My mean.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri]

I whisper to gay Boston, too.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa. Yeah, that's low.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, it's low.

[Scott Aukerman]

You have sort of like a pig pen kind of like dust cloud above you.

[Arnold Debobo]

A lot of people can actually see my stink, and my diet doesn't do me any favors.

[Scott Aukerman]

There are also flies next to you, and they're holding their nose, going, pu. Yeah. Yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

I have a lot of cartoon characters characteristics. It is off putting. I'll do big events. I'll. Usually it's kind of a punishment, and corporations will say, hey, corporations are trying to punish.

[Max Silvestri]

They're.

[Arnold Debobo]

They're having. They're employees saying, hey, come to this big event. I'll come out. I'll do some mentalism. The employees will say, we'll work as hard as you want.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Arnold Debobo]

Never do this again.

[Gabe Liedman]

Retreats.

[Max Silvestri]

I got it.

[Arnold Debobo]

And so that's really. I'm bringing up the bottom line.

[Scott Aukerman]

So when you're brought in, the person goes like, get me out of this room. I'll say anything. I just don't Want to be around this anymore.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's true. It's true. Okay, Scott, let me ask you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, yeah, go.

[Arnold Debobo]

We've never met before. This is the first time you sent.

[Scott Aukerman]

A mail to my house about a week ago.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, but. But we have. Haven't physically.

[Scott Aukerman]

You haven't emailed me. I haven't ghosted you with an email.

[Arnold Debobo]

There'd be no way. I know your ATM pin.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right?

[Arnold Debobo]

Nobody knows that. Does your wife know that?

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, she. I think she does, but. But I mean, unless you were behind me one day.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I was withdrawing. No, I, I. Because I make a lot of withdrawals.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm like eight withdrawal a day kind of guy. Because I'm always just like. I always get the minimum.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm like, why didn't I go for the maximum amount?

[Arnold Debobo]

So this PIN is very important. Important to you.

[Max Silvestri]

Very important.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's an eight time a day thing.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah. So it's very important, guys.

[Scott Aukerman]

Got it.

[Ethan Merck]

I get this guy. You know what? I'm. I loathe you, but I gotta respect the delivery.

[Arnold Debobo]

So I want you to think about that pin. And, And.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, can you back up?

[Arnold Debobo]

Oh, Scott. Yeah, you have. You have a sick mind, Scott. You're a twisted man.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wait, whoa.

[Arnold Debobo]

Because you didn't think about your ATM pin, did you?

[Scott Aukerman]

No. I mean, no.

[Arnold Debobo]

Honestly, it's in there a little bit, but you weren't thinking about it.

[Scott Aukerman]

I was. When you first brought it up, you.

[Arnold Debobo]

Were thinking about me in a boat and you pushing me into the water.

[Scott Aukerman]

Just to wash you off. Honestly, like.

[Arnold Debobo]

And I can't swim, Scott.

[Scott Aukerman]

I thought a bathtub wouldn't be, you know, cleanly enough. I thought the ocean might do a better job.

[Arnold Debobo]

Well, you mentioned I sent you some man mail. That implies more than multiple pieces of mail.

[Scott Aukerman]

Not when I said it.

[Arnold Debobo]

Can you open that? Can you open that other piece of mail that came here months ago? That's from months ago.

[Scott Aukerman]

Why am I still holding on to this? I don't know, but I.

[Arnold Debobo]

Right. Here's a letter opener.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay. Could you back off with the letter opener? I. I have my own. I'll just use my fingers. All right.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay, great.

[Scott Aukerman]

Put that back. Was that like a switchblade letter open?

[Arnold Debobo]

It's a switchblade. It's handy because you only need one hand.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

Covered in jam.

[Scott Aukerman]

So off putting.

[Gabe Liedman]

He's right.

[Max Silvestri]

He.

[Gabe Liedman]

He knows himself.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay, I've opened it up and you.

[Arnold Debobo]

Can see that is a signed autograph from Phil Collins.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, wow.

[Arnold Debobo]

Of in the Air Tonight. And he says and he says I would not help him drowning either.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right. This is that song that he was singing to that guy in the. In the audience.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's right.

[Ethan Merck]

You might want. You might want a little more context for people who don't. Aren't super familiar with the lyrics to that song.

[Arnold Debobo]

I mean, everyone knows the lyrics to in the Air Tonight.

[Scott Aukerman]

He. He signed it. Hey, check out my lyrics to in the Air Tonight.

[Ethan Merck]

Oh.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sincerely, Phil Collins.

[Ethan Merck]

He got Phil Collins to autograph that.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's incredible.

[Arnold Debobo]

You've been. You've been mentalized. I got Phil.

[Scott Aukerman]

And I'm just taking it on faith that this actually is Phil Collins. Yes, that.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's not.

[Ethan Merck]

I can check that signature.

[Scott Aukerman]

Hold on, hold on. There's a picture of Phil Collins holding it up next to a newspaper from four months ago.

[Gabe Liedman]

Oh my God.

[Max Silvestri]

Incredible. That's so hard to get a photo of someone holding up the photo on the back of the photo.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, it's a double sided headshot and.

[Arnold Debobo]

That was pre pandemic.

[Max Silvestri]

Wow, really?

[Ethan Merck]

Wow. Months ago.

[Gabe Liedman]

That's many months.

[Max Silvestri]

Can I ask a. This is probably a dumb question because I haven't. I've obviously been through a lot of.

[Scott Aukerman]

Of. That's. How tall Danny DeVito is.

[Max Silvestri]

Is that what you were going to ask?

[Scott Aukerman]

How high he is?

[Gabe Liedman]

How high he is?

[Max Silvestri]

How high he is? How far from the sky he is? Excuse me? That's how I measure height.

[Arnold Debobo]

How high he is.

[Max Silvestri]

I've only seen probably a dozen Mentalist stage shows. Okay, so I'm not like.

[Scott Aukerman]

Some of.

[Max Silvestri]

The same guy multiple times, but for the most part it's like eight or nine different guys in the UK and America, different countries, but I don't know mentalism that way? Well, each time you asked us to think of something, but then you guessed. Yeah, a different thing we were thinking of. Is there any way to just get straight to guessing what we're thinking of without the googling?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. Could you do that? Like just. You haven't done just straight. I don't think you've done Gabe yet.

[Arnold Debobo]

Straight off.

[Scott Aukerman]

Straight.

[Arnold Debobo]

F. Okay, so. So, okay.

[Ethan Merck]

I want.

[Scott Aukerman]

Just tell. Tell us what he's thinking.

[Arnold Debobo]

Just tell us what he's thinking. He's wondering, like, like, why did I eat all that raw onions?

[Scott Aukerman]

Why did you eat that?

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, he's wondering that about me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Why? Do you have an answer?

[Arnold Debobo]

I don't. I. I mean, it's. It's just. I. I'm trying to quit smoking, so I'll just try to just chew anything else.

[Scott Aukerman]

Anything else?

[Max Silvestri]

Just raw onions.

[Arnold Debobo]

Just raw Onions. And that comes out.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sounds like you're per too, cuz.

[Gabe Liedman]

I wasn't really. I was thinking the smell of onion every time he talks.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, right.

[Gabe Liedman]

It's so fresh.

[Max Silvestri]

It's like the cotton.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's like chipotle.

[Gabe Liedman]

Honestly, it's like very fresh onion. Wind.

[Ethan Merck]

I want to hire you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ethan Merck]

I'm gonna hire you to work on a case that's stymied me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh.

[Ethan Merck]

I need your help, actually.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is incredible.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

What's the case? Don't go into too many of the details. We don't have time for that.

[Ethan Merck]

It's a great story. It's a real grip. But I'll.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'll.

[Ethan Merck]

But I'll keep it.

[Scott Aukerman]

Just.

[Arnold Debobo]

I've got a heart out. So I do have to go.

[Ethan Merck]

I've been talking for maybe 10 seconds.

[Arnold Debobo]

I do have to go. I appreciate the offer.

[Ethan Merck]

Get it. I'll write it. I'll write it down to you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, just send it. Honestly, this could have been an email.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, I guess it can be an email. Never. Never you mind.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right.

[Ethan Merck]

Aol.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, I mean, Arnold Debobo, this. This is incredible. You're a loathsome individual. But I mean your techniques work and.

[Arnold Debobo]

I. I'm probably gonna not survive much longer.

[Scott Aukerman]

I do.

[Arnold Debobo]

I do often get hit by cars.

[Gabe Liedman]

Okay.

[Arnold Debobo]

So I'm really happy to come on the show while I'm still with everybody.

[Scott Aukerman]

No cars in here.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, no car. I am safe from traffic.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's right. Well, congratulations, Arnold. So nice to meet you. We are running out of time though, guys. We only have time for one final feature on the show. This is of course a little something called Plug Bugs.

[Arnold Debobo]

We have time for one final feature.

[Scott Aukerman]

That is of course a little something called plug. That was. Open up the plug bag 2025. Then you are alive by G2 pilots. Thanks so much, G2 pilots. If you have a plug theme, head over to cbbworld.com plugin plugs and you can upload your songs there or you can find everything you need to make a remix and upload it. And guys, what do we plug in? Obviously, Max and Gabe, your new show.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes. I need you guys.

[Scott Aukerman]

I need you guys. And you can get this weekly, I would imagine.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yeah, get it weekly.

[Scott Aukerman]

Why not? Every six days?

[Gabe Liedman]

That is a great.

[Max Silvestri]

We might do some bonus episodes. So there's a world where you get something every six days, but no promises.

[Scott Aukerman]

You mean on the average? I just think it would be fun to put out a podcast every six days. So like the first week it comes out On Monday.

[Gabe Liedman]

Right.

[Scott Aukerman]

Then it comes out on a Sunday. Yeah, it comes out on a Saturday. I love that. You know what I mean? And just like.

[Gabe Liedman]

And this is why you've been in the biz so long.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is the kind of advice that I probably gave you on that phone call.

[Max Silvestri]

You see the industry from the inside out, and we're outsiders.

[Scott Aukerman]

Any other award shows that we're all working on together? God, I hope.

[Max Silvestri]

Not that Gabe and I are also TV producers. So check out Loot season three. I love la Season one.

[Gabe Liedman]

Yes.

[Scott Aukerman]

What is. I love la.

[Max Silvestri]

It's a new HBO comedy on Sunday nights, and then it's coming out six days after the premiere, so the premiere is Sunday, November 2nd.

[Scott Aukerman]

So every six days. Yeah. See, HBO knows what they're doing.

[Max Silvestri]

They get it.

[Gabe Liedman]

New HBO comedy, Rachel Senate.

[Max Silvestri]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, oh, yes. Okay. I've heard of the show. Great. I'm looking forward to that. And of course, Loot. Alan Yang show, right?

[Max Silvestri]

Yes, that's right.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fantastic. And we don't have a lot of time, but Ethan Merck, real quick, what do you want to plug?

[Ethan Merck]

There's a podcast I'm a fan of. It's about the Beatles called Screw. We're just going to talk about the Beatles by Will Hines and some friends. He's a great comedian, truly noble man who I'm a fan of, and that's what I like to plug.

[Scott Aukerman]

If I hired you to chase him, would you.

[Ethan Merck]

In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. He's a man of low morals.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because you're.

[Max Silvestri]

Oh, oh.

[Scott Aukerman]

I thought you said he was a great man.

[Ethan Merck]

He's noble, but only for his own bullshit.

[Scott Aukerman]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri]

You're. God. I would love to hear about some cases.

[Ethan Merck]

Yeah, some of them are great. One of them involves a widow, actually.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know, we got to turn to Arnold de Bobo. Arnold, what do you want to plug?

[Arnold Debobo]

Oh, nothing really, but thank you, I suppose. I've been listening to the Action Boys podcast.

[Ethan Merck]

Me too.

[Arnold Debobo]

It's very entertaining. A lot of old movies these weirdos are talking about.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, they would have to talk about old movies because they can't talk about new movies because they're not out yet.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, yeah, that's really.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's.

[Arnold Debobo]

That's a real mind bending way to look at it, Scott. I should work that into my routine.

[Scott Aukerman]

What are they going to talk about? Like, oh, in five years from now. Let's. Let's break this movie down. That.

[Arnold Debobo]

No, they can't come out. They don't have a window into the future. No, these are just regular guys. Talking about old movies.

[Scott Aukerman]

Regular Joe's, just Average Joe's, you know.

[Arnold Debobo]

Just laughing it up. Talking about these steroid ridden freaks on celluloid.

[Scott Aukerman]

And what is this now called?

[Arnold Debobo]

It is called Action boys with a Z. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right. And what do I want to plug? Look, we have new throwback tees out there available. Technicality no down Boo over. Hey Nong man. Ain't nothing to fuck with throwback tees. If you buy one throwback T shirt and you can get a second 30% off with code [e-mail] Comedy Bang Bang. We also have action figures. The Entrez P Noir and Italiano Jones ones just came out. Series two is just starting. Started. And these are dynamite looking. They're really great. Series two is going to have four vol and Dalton Wilcox and Jason Manzoukas and Reggie Watts. Really good series. So get in. Right now you can get [e-mail] we also have series one still available. And European customers can go to action figureseller.com. all right, I think that's enough for me. Let's close up the old plug. 2025, open up the plug bag and.

[Ethan Merck]

Then you are alive.

[Scott Aukerman]

Open up the plug bag. 2025, open up the blood bag. Then you are a alive. By the way, huge news. I I credited G2 pilots with the opening the plug back theme. No, that was plugastage by Sean Fogel. That was open up the plug back. 2025 then you are alive by G2 pilots. So thanks to both of those freaks for putting those together. Guys, I want to thank you so much. Max, Gabe, first of all, congratulations Gabe. You're in the one Timers Club. So much more prestigious than the Timers Club. Huge. Yeah, it's huge. And please email me again. I, I but I will give.

[Ethan Merck]

And.

[Scott Aukerman]

Max, what more needs to be said? Well, I'll see you next year.

[Max Silvestri]

Many people online have said the same thing about the set in Lincoln. What more needs to be said? And yet we find a way.

[Scott Aukerman]

And Arnold De Bobo. The sooner you're out of here, the better.

[Arnold Debobo]

But you knew I was gonna so many times. Yeah, no, that's typically how people say goodbye to me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, exactly. You're just influencing us all to say goodbye. Stuff like that.

[Arnold Debobo]

Yeah, yeah, I kind of put that out there earlier. Yeah, sooner the better.

[Scott Aukerman]

And Ethan Merck, how's it going? It's good, but we have like 10 seconds before the end.

[Arnold Debobo]

Okay.

[Ethan Merck]

I once helped a widow find an ex husband.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm sorry, we're out of time. We'll see you next time.

[Max Silvestri]

Thanks. Bye.

[Scott Aukerman]

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[Max Silvestri]

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[Gabe Liedman]

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[Max Silvestri]

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