John Hodgman, Connor Ratliff, Griffin Newman, Patty Guggenheim

Summary

Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast Episode Summary Episode: John Hodgman, Connor Ratliff, Griffin Newman, Patty Guggenheim
Release Date: February 17, 2025

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Guests Overview In this episode of Comedy Bang Bang, host Scott Aukerman welcomes a dynamic lineup of guests, including the witty John Hodgman, the eclectic Connor Ratliff, the charismatic Griffin Newman, and the innovative entrepreneur Patty Guggenheim. The episode blends insightful conversations with absurdist humor, showcasing the unique comedic talents each guest brings to the table.

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Kitty Cjoy Sage's Comedic Journey [02:47] Kitty Cjoy Sage opens the discussion by delving into her unconventional entry into the world of comedy and acting. Highlighting her work on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Kitty shares anecdotes about her early experiences in Hollywood, including her audition for Apple commercials. A memorable moment occurs when she humorously recounts her attempt to secure on-set stimulants, paralleling her experience with Buddy Ebsen’s allergic reaction during the filming of The Wizard of Oz ([06:10]).

Notable Quote:

Kitty Cjoy Sage [08:02]: “I was originally cast as the monster, although I do know who, but I was allergic to the latex makeup.”

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John Hodgman’s Interlude and Entrepreneurial Insights [05:35] John Hodgman makes his presence felt both in comedic skits and in conversations about entrepreneurship. His segments are interspersed with playful banter, where he discusses the challenges of maintaining originality in a saturated market. Hodgman's humorous take on business loans and small business support adds a layer of satirical commentary on the entrepreneurial landscape.

Notable Quote:

John Hodgman [05:30]: “Having trouble? Don't panic. Don't be alarmed. You need to file a claim. Holla at State Farm. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.”

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Avatar Franchise Parody with James Cameron and Jake Sully [26:15] A highlight of the episode is the parody involving James Cameron and Jake Sully, the iconic character from the Avatar series. Their exaggerated enthusiasm for the upcoming Avatar 3: Fire and Ash serves as a satirical take on blockbuster film promotions. The trio engages in a playful debate over plotlines, special effects, and the logistics of underwater film production, all while weaving in humorous nods to classic cinema.

Notable Quote:

Jake Sully [26:45]: “Just in time for Christmas. Scott.”

Scott Aukerman [27:46]: “To release Avatar the third, December 19th, six days before the Birth of Christ is celebrated...”

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Entrepreneurial Conversations with Patty Guggenheim [46:35] Patty Guggenheim takes center stage as the entrepreneurial guest, sharing her insights into the intersection of comedy and business. She discusses her ventures, including her innovative approach to blending humor with entrepreneurial endeavors. Patty’s dialogue emphasizes the importance of creativity and adaptability in modern business practices.

Notable Quote:

Patty Guggenheim [46:43]: “Building a business may feel like a big jump, but on deck, small business loans can help keep you afloat. With lines of credit up to $100,000 and term loans up to $250,000.”

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Humorous Skits and Interactive Banter [Various Timestamps] Throughout the episode, Scott Aukerman and the guests engage in a series of improvised skits and humorous exchanges. These segments include playful misunderstandings, fictional product promotions, and meta-commentary on the podcasting medium itself. Noteworthy is the recurring gag involving “Plinko” and the fictional Avatar universe, which adds a layer of absurdist humor to the episode.

Notable Quote:

Kitty Cjoy Sage [67:00]: “Stick the ponytail in the pud.”

Plinko [67:03]: “That's not how you say that's not a knife. This is how you say this is a knife.”

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Book Promotions and Creative Plug Segments [47:00] Guests enthusiastically promote their latest books and creative projects. Kitty Cjoy Sage highlights her publications, Vacationland and Medallion Status, while James Cameron introduces his new skincare line, Skins Care. These plug segments are delivered with comedic flair, blending genuine promotion with humorous exaggerations.

Notable Quote:

James Cameron [50:46]: “What’s funny is that his wrinkly body is helping me make skins. That's...”

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Closing Remarks and Final Skits [75:00] As the episode wraps up, the hosts and guests participate in a final round of comedic skits, including movie quote parodies and exaggerated promotional pitches. The episode concludes with lighthearted goodbyes and humorous nods to future collaborations, leaving listeners entertained and eagerly anticipating the next installment.

Notable Quote:

Kitty Cjoy Sage [75:16]: “How you say that's not a knife? This is how you say this is a knife. A memoir of a man learning an Australian accent.”

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Conclusion This episode of Comedy Bang Bang masterfully blends improvisational comedy with insightful conversations, offering listeners a mix of laughs and engaging discussions. From Kitty Cjoy Sage’s journey in comedy to the satirical take on the Avatar franchise, the episode showcases the versatility and creativity that Comedy Bang Bang is renowned for. Whether you’re a long-time fan or a newcomer, this episode provides a delightful and entertaining experience.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Kitty Cjoy Sage [08:02]: “I was originally cast as the monster...”
• John Hodgman [05:30]: “Having trouble? Don't panic...”
• Jake Sully [26:45]: “Just in time for Christmas...”
• Kitty Cjoy Sage [67:00]: “Stick the ponytail in the pud.”
• James Cameron [50:46]: “What’s funny is that his wrinkly body is helping me make skins...”
• Kitty Cjoy Sage [75:16]: “How you say that's not a knife?...”

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Recommendations: For those who enjoyed this episode, consider exploring the individual works of the guests:

• John Hodgman: Explore his books and his comedic style.
• Connor Ratliff & Griffin Newman: Follow their latest projects and performances.
• Patty Guggenheim: Check out her entrepreneurial ventures and insights shared on the show.

Stay tuned for more episodes of Comedy Bang Bang, where eccentric characters and celebrity guests converge for a unique blend of comedy and conversation.

Transcript

[Scott Aukerman]

When something happens to your kitchen, you.

[James Cameron]

Might say, this is ludicrous.

[Scott Aukerman]

But that won't fix your home. That will only get you the wrapper. Ludicrous.

[John Hodgman]

Having trouble? Don't panic. Don't be alarmed. You need to file a claim. Holla at State Farm. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's right. You can file a claim on the app or call us.

[Jake Sully]

Thanks, Mr. Criss.

[Scott Aukerman]

No matter how ludicrous the situation, Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[John Hodgman]

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[Jake Sully]

Am all in on crypto. Cryptocorpses. I dress up as my family, that is. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. Uh huh. Thank you to side of mcg Catchphrase superstar. Side of MCG for that submission. Don't think it's gonna stick, but thank you so much. Side of mcg. We'll we love everything you do. Catchphrase related. I have no idea what you do in your spare time other than this. I hope you're not getting paid for this. I. I know I'm certainly not paying you for these, but maybe I should throw a little something his way. A little walking around money, little lettuce for his tomato. Anyway, welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another week. We have a great episode coming up a little later. We have a couple of deep sea adventurers. We also have an entrepreneur. Yes, entrepreneurs are back on Comedy Bang Bang. We stopped having them on for a little while because everyone wanted to be an entrepreneur. And then the contraction of not only show business, but I think the America's economy has now meant that entrepreneurs are few and far between. But we have one back on Comedy Bang Bang. For a while we only had small business owners. And then we've now widened out to have entrepreneurs. And our first guest is akin to an entrepreneur in the sense of he probably has a loan out corporation.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, you're so right.

[Jake Sully]

What is that? May I ask what yours is called?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is that my loan out corporation?

[Jake Sully]

This is that giving away anything?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Certainly very relatable. It is. That is all incorporated. That is all that Is all incorporated.

[Jake Sully]

Is that something you say a lot? And I'll introduce you in a second.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It is how I used to end every sentence. That is all. Well, that's. That's a trip back through time for me is that it's been a while.

[Jake Sully]

Since a telegram where they had to say stop at the end of every sentence.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That is how Radar O'Reilly ended all of his broadcasts on the television show MASH. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

The Mobile Army Surgical Hospital, of course, is what we're talking about for those of you who weren't around when that show was on the air.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's the one. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

And did you feel a kinship. And I will certainly introduce you in a moment.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You don't have to.

[Jake Sully]

With the character Radar O'Reilly or perhaps the actor Gary Bergoff, talking about Gary.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Bergoff, who played Charlie Brown in the original Off Broadway production of your A.

[Jake Sully]

Good Man Charlie Brown, of course. Yes.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah. No, Radar R. Oh, I see.

[Jake Sully]

So that. That is the character that you like.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No, I liked them. I liked them both. You are. I am akin. You mentioned a kinship. I am definitely akin to round faced, bespectacled nerds of all types.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. Our guest, of course, when he describes himself thusly. We know who it is. But let me fill you in on a little bit of background. He, of course, played the. Were you. It's so hard to tell these days. Were you the cool computer or were you the stuffy old PC?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I was the Radar O'Reilly, which is the PC of the PC world.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, I guess that makes sense. But now.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And a series of Apple computers that came out before you were born.

[Jake Sully]

Commercials. Yes. You. You were commercials. You, you. You were with Justin Long in that. And you guys are equally as cool. So I can't tell who was supposed to be cool, but he was slightly younger at the time.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And now I believe you stop talking strangely. So I believe he has caught up to me.

[Jake Sully]

We also know him from the Judge Sean Hoffman podcast. Please welcome John Hodgman.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That is all.

[Jake Sully]

Hello. That is all. Welcome. How are you?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You know Justin Long was in that movie Barbarian.

[Jake Sully]

He was. Great movie.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, yeah. And I was originally cast as the monster, although I do know who, but I was allergic. I was allergic to the latex makeup.

[Jake Sully]

Me. Interesting.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That is interesting.

[Jake Sully]

I do know the person cast.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I mean, I don't know when.

[Jake Sully]

Jesus Christ. Well, the thing is, you know already.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The thing is, I don't know when you've stopped talking because you don't say that at all.

[Jake Sully]

All right, all right. But. But you said that is all to indicate that you would stop talking. And then I started. The question isn't when I stop, it's when I start. Do you want me to say this is that is all when I start. Oh, my God. Now he's not talking at all.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm just waiting for you to finish.

[Jake Sully]

That is all.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Great. You should. You should not say it at all, actually, because it's awkward and it's my ip. So that is all.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. Thank you. I was waiting to jump in there. I do know the person cast as the monster used to. To do comedy in sketch groups back in the day.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is that so?

[Jake Sully]

That is so. Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I didn't. I didn't know I. I was. As you know, I am offer only.

[Jake Sully]

Are you yawning in the middle of your answer or constantly?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm so happy for that person. I was allergic to the makeup, much like Buddy Ebsen was allergic to the Tin Man. That's right up in the wizard of Oz.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. And so.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And there weren't. There weren't enough stimulants to give him that he would feel better about it. So they had to recast.

[Jake Sully]

That was how it worked in the old days, wasn't it? Do you wish our show business was still like that? Whatever part you got, they figured out a drug cocktail to give you to make you give a good performance.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

When I was shooting the. The. The ads in which I played the PC and Justin Long played the Macintosh computer and the Macintosh Apple Computer ads, I mused aloud one time whether anyone on set had any drugs they could give me. Because it was my first experience with Hollywood. I had done nothing. I had done zero acting before them.

[Jake Sully]

How did you even get these? Were you some sort of a rock on tour doing live shows or you were the written word, perhaps?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I had just started doing comedy on the Daily show with Jon Stewart A thousand years.

[Jake Sully]

So that's really your first foray into show business?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yes, but that was. I was seated at a desk.

[Jake Sully]

This is the first time. Oh, this is your first standing room?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

My first I'd ever stood on camera.

[Jake Sully]

Still, even though you started doing stand up? Isn't that interesting?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Never did stand up until I was standing up on camera. Before that, I was a seated raconter, honestly. And most New York comedy nights, I would sit down and normally I wouldn't.

[Jake Sully]

Ask this much info about someone's background. But you brought nothing to plug.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Why not? It's an interview.

[Jake Sully]

So how did you get that job at The Daily Show.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So I had written a book. I am a. I am primarily a written humorist.

[Jake Sully]

Of course. I remember your book Vacationland. Yeah, that's in stores now.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The second to the most recent one, Vacation Land and medallion Status, both available in paperback now.

[Jake Sully]

I've read them both.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Thank you very much.

[Jake Sully]

Yes.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But I started writing three books of absurd humor. The areas of my expertise, more information than you require, and a third book called that Is All. That is All. And, well, I continue, actually, so it's not all.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, good. I almost jumped in there.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But I wrote this first book of absurd humor or the areas of my expertise, and I went on a Daily show as a guest and we had a good time making funny jokes together, I suppose. And.

[Jake Sully]

And this is Jon Stewart at the time.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Jon Stewart at the time, that's right.

[Jake Sully]

And what is it now? Oh, okay, interesting. And so you guys had such a good time that you got a semi regular gig?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They invited me to come back and, well, they, they said, would you like to try to be back on the show? And I said, sure, I can be the resident expert on the show. Like the, The. The tweety intellectual that they bring in to explain complex things.

[Jake Sully]

Things. Yeah, that's always better. Just substitute whatever you want to say.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is what I was looking for. That was all. And I came in and as the resident expert, and they were like, would you like, can you do 750 words on nuclear proliferation in Iran by Monday? And I'm like, of course. And I did. And they said, bring a suit. We might put you on television. And they did. And then very soon after that, they. I was asked to audition for those ads, and I did.

[Jake Sully]

And you auditioned for these ads.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I did audition for the.

[Jake Sully]

Who else was in the mix? Do you remember this?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Everyone.

[Jake Sully]

Really? Like everyone who was in New York comedy at the time.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yes.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I mean, that's what I've heard since then.

[Jake Sully]

And you're victorious.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, I mean, but look, everything comes around. I thought I got that monster role in Barbarian.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, that's true.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But I got dinged.

[Jake Sully]

Very similar to Nick Offerman's stories about how he was. Was in the. What was that show he did? Parks and Rec.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Parks and Recreation.

[Jake Sully]

And then they were still. Even though he got it, I think they still had auditions or something like that. And everyone. Or maybe everyone was talking about, like they had auditioned. That's right. In a green room once. And he knew we got it and didn't feel like.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And didn't want to say anything.

[Jake Sully]

Didn't want to Say anything. Yeah, very interesting.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But I had asked on the set, literally on the set of the Appalachian. Like, does anyone like, this is Hollywood. Right.

[Jake Sully]

By the way, I have to say, very interesting. After I say something that is dreadfully boring, just to spice things up and it's almost like hypnosis for the list power of suggestions.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

People are going to be going around. You know, it's very interesting. Scott Offerman and his incredible anecdotes about Nick Offerman's career. Very interesting.

[Jake Sully]

He doesn't have a podcast talking about this. I have to.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Hang on a second. Where do I find the share button on this podcast so I can send it to all my friends? I just heard a very interesting anecdote from a very interesting man. Are you a share fan?

[Jake Sully]

By the way, speaking of Cher, I love to share. I'm. I'm talking about the singer, of course.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Silkwood. I love Silkwood.

[Jake Sully]

Silk. You love Silkwood? I. Okay. It's a fine film by all accounts.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yes.

[Jake Sully]

But for someone to be like, I.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Love Silkwood, well, you have to realize that I was, I, I think 10 or 11 years old when Silkwood came out. So it was marketed directly at me.

[Jake Sully]

Sure, of course.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And Moonstruck, I saw Moonstruck amazing in Moonstruck Outdoors at the Hat Shell in the, on the, in Boston. The Hat Shell, the amphitheater by the Charles river, say.

[Jake Sully]

Very interesting.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's very interesting that.

[Jake Sully]

It certainly is a fun story.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But then I asked for drugs on the set of the Apple ads and no one had any for me.

[Jake Sully]

And this was a semi serious.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I passed it off as a joke, but my hope was that someone would hand me a bag of drugs and then I would tell that story on the road when I would transition to my own imitation of stand up comedy and tell stories while standing up in various theaters around the country. And I was in Raleigh, North Carolina, at the Carolina Theater. It's a great and very interesting theater. And this story you'll find very interesting, Scott. I know you will, because I'm telling the story about how I got. I didn't. Couldn't get any drugs. And I would say at every stop, along with where I'm like, so if anyone has any drugs now, they should hand them to me. And no one wants to give me drugs because I look like a narc. Like, I'm just, I'm narc.

[Jake Sully]

Also, it's their drugs.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Like they bought them. But I'm supposed to be in show business. I never expected to be in show business or in Hollywood.

[Jake Sully]

You thought when you got into show business, people are just passing you free drugs.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

People handing me drugs.

[Jake Sully]

Drugs are expensive. Give.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I know, but isn't that what happened? Used to happen they would give. So I was like, someone give me drugs, please. And it got very. It got very bold. By the end of the tour, I was just like, I'm not joking, Please, in the signing line, someone give me drugs. And so at the end of this one, this tour, to the end of the tour, and I went out to the lobby and before I hit the signing line, a woman and her boyfriend take me inside and goes, I have something for you.

[Jake Sully]

I'm like, great.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

She's like, this is just a little something for the rest of your tour. I think you might want this on the road, if you will.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And John's winking and handed me. I did my best anyway.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Not a. Not a natural.

[Jake Sully]

It was more of a blink, to be honest.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Let me give it a try.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, that's two eyes. Is a blink.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay. I was trying to wink though, right?

[Jake Sully]

I know. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, you got no. Okay, well, one. Yeah, that one stayed.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

All right, I'll focus on my. Right.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

In any case, very interesting anecdote. She hands me this really skanky looking envelope.

[Jake Sully]

What makes an envelope skanky looking?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, it's like a letter envelope, right. But it's been wrapped around something that's not a letter, so there's a little package of something inside.

[Jake Sully]

Got it, got it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And then it's been folded over kind of nervously as we want envelopes to.

[Jake Sully]

Be fresh and pristine and to be flat as Stanley.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Actually, you know what? That's very true about me. I feel a little unnerved.

[Jake Sully]

Anytime when you see a folded up envelope, the trouble of brewing.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's why I can't watch Below Deck anymore because they're always handing over their tips and those envelopes.

[Jake Sully]

Are you interested in Below Deck?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I am. I'm a Below Deck.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. Jack Quaid and I are going to start a Below Deck podcast.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I would love to be on it.

[Jake Sully]

You want to be?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm sorry, that was an invitation. I apologize.

[Jake Sully]

I'll take it back.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I hope you have a good time with it. Sounds like it'll be very interesting. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

Well, you.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh. So she hands me this envelope. If I may, because this is a very interesting anecdote.

[Jake Sully]

You may, you may.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And I'm.

[Jake Sully]

Is it wrapping up at any time soon?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yes, here it is. I'm so excited.

[Jake Sully]

Big finish.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm afraid I'll be arrested in the lobby. So I shove it in my pocket and then I get out of the thing and I go meet my friends and yours, Phil Morrison and David Reese, who are having dinner somewhere. And I'm like, that finally happened. Someone gave me drugs. And I open it up, it's lens wipes for my glasses. A hundred of them.

[Jake Sully]

What?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It was a mean joke.

[Jake Sully]

How? Oh, so it was an intentional joke.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I don't know why. I don't know what her intention was. I mean, they were very useful. I did use them to clean my glasses for sure.

[Jake Sully]

So actually it came in handy.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It did come in handy. And also I huffed them for a.

[Plinko]

While and I got a very 100 of them.

[Jake Sully]

Will give you something.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah. If you put them all together and then. And then put them in a paper bag, you get a little something. So. Have you ever done drugs since I have done. I have. I. Well, first, I've been doing drugs all my life. I'm a lifelong asthmatic.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I have a. I have a variety of exotic inhalers. I'm always on something. I'm always on something.

[Jake Sully]

You have an inhaler that has a picture of a woman in a bikini. And then when you turn it upside down to breathe in, the bikini goes away.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, well, that's something I modded. I modded my inhaler custom that way. But yeah, if I mention my inhaler, maybe they'll give me free ones. Breast tree aerosphere.

[Jake Sully]

Breastree aerosphere.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It's officially for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. But I know a guy. This is now I'm a big time Hollywood guy.

[Jake Sully]

Wow.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Even though it's not for asthma.

[Jake Sully]

So you are technically getting some drugs.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I am.

[Jake Sully]

That's wonderful.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They call me Johnny Illicit. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

So the anecdote is officially wrapped up.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That is all. I said it.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, wonderful.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm done now.

[Jake Sully]

This is why when you begged me to be on the show. Unsolicited.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's right.

[Jake Sully]

I said, I gotta have him on. He tells the best stories in the biz. And here you are begging me to be on another show.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They're never as very interesting as yours. Thank you.

[Jake Sully]

What else is in the news?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I do not know. And I don't choose to know.

[Jake Sully]

Are you staying away from the news? I've decided for the next four years that I don't want to hear a certain person's voice. And so I am actively avoiding it. And it's sort of like, you know, the Wamageddon, where you. You avoid hearing last Christmas I gave you my heart, you know?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Right, right, right.

[Jake Sully]

I'm. I'm actively avoiding it and it's hard, man. You gotta be. You gotta have always have the remote control.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You have to have discipline.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I discovered over the course of eight years that reading the news and getting outraged and upset did not change the outcome of the news in any way.

[Jake Sully]

Right. Well, eventually Obama, you know, gave it over to the next person.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So you were finally, thanks, Obama, for finally getting out of here. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

We kid. We kid. Of course, we don't talk about who we voted for on this show. We keep that close to we.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Save that for your below deck podcast.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. Yeah. Everything is out in the open.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

All right, it's voting time.

[Jake Sully]

What do you think about that? When they split up the tips and it's always like they say, all right, this trip we made 20,000. And everyone goes. And then the next trip they go, this trip we made 21,000. And they all go, yeah. And they're disappointed over basically splitting up between eight of them. $1,000.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yachties are a mercurial lot. You're moody.

[Jake Sully]

You own a boat.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I do own a boat.

[Jake Sully]

As discussed in your book Vacation.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Anyone out there who was wondering if I was Caucasian? Now you know, I do own a boat, and it is. It is sometimes moored in the state of Maine.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. And how often are you getting out on that boat?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, when we are in the state of Maine, almost every day we will go out and row around. Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

And how often.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

What else is there to do?

[Jake Sully]

How often there?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sometimes I go candle pin bowling, but that's another story.

[Jake Sully]

How often there do you drain your main vein?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Almost every day we row out to the middle of the harbor so that I might drain my main vein.

[Jake Sully]

Well, Vacation Land and of course, Medallion status status are both in stores now. Anywhere Fine. Books are sold.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Anywhere books are sold, borrowed or stolen.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. Are they in libraries?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Unfortunately.

[Jake Sully]

Really?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They're stealing from me?

[Jake Sully]

Of course.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, yeah, yeah, you can get the audiobook of all of my books on Libby, which is the public library audiobook. And you can also get ebook.

[Jake Sully]

Interesting.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Through Libby.

[Jake Sully]

Very interesting.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm not plugging Libby, but this is a very interesting story. That's why I'm talking about it.

[Jake Sully]

Well, those are both great books. It's been a minute since you've written one, though, because it feels like maybe. Let me guess. When Medallion Status came out.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

All right, let's guess. Wrong.

[Jake Sully]

Wrong.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Incorrect.

[Jake Sully]

19. I'm guessing the year John Excuse me. What did you think? Think I was guessing the specific day.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I thought you were guessing 2020, which would be. I thought you were going with the last two. Remember how we used to refer to years by the last two years that.

[Jake Sully]

All changed in the year 2000. Now we had to start like people aren't going around going 0102.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But we did stop saying the year 2000 and blank.

[Jake Sully]

That's right.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Which was a real thing until the middle of the last decade or so.

[Jake Sully]

So now we're saving time. Just saying 20. Whatever.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The year 2019 was the publication year. That's what I was gonna guess.

[Jake Sully]

And you just gave it away.

[Scott Aukerman]

I would have been right.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I didn't want to give you the prize. No one's ever guessed correctly. And the competition continues. Everyone.

[Jake Sully]

What is it about writing a book? Because Vacationland and medallion status came pretty close after one another. Vacationland feels like 2017 maybe.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Absolutely right. Unfortunately, we don't have a prize for that book.

[Jake Sully]

And then of course, as established 2019 for medallion status, then six years goes by. No books from Johnny Hodge.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's absolutely right.

[Jake Sully]

What has happened?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, David Reese and I made two. Two seasons of a cartoon for Hulu called Dicktown, which are still on Hulu. And we'll see how long. See how much hard drive space they have. I think it's too late to get a tax write off, so they might leave it up there for a little while. And that took up some time. But yeah, no, I'd like to write another book. I just. You know, what I need is an idea.

[Jake Sully]

Well, it's not like anything's happened over the past six years since you wrote the last one.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Much of the things that have happened over the past six years, I don't want to think about them. I don't want to spend time alone with my thoughts so much as I used to. Perh.

[Jake Sully]

I understand.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, but if I have an idea and, and, and maybe let's talking to some of your guests.

[Jake Sully]

Let's throw out some ideas. Right? I'll get right here before we go to break. Let's just throw out ideas.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Go for it, please.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. A robot who is.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's it.

[Jake Sully]

No more just a robot.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No. Okay, go ahead. I'd like to see where you're going with this.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. A robot who thinks that he or she or. Or they have achieved sentience.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Right. Thinks they have.

[Jake Sully]

Realizes that they haven't.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Right. And start doing a podcast with Jack Quaid of all people.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, I like where you're going with.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

This isn't that interesting. And it's about below deck.

[Jake Sully]

This would be a weird. Below decks.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Below deck, period.

[Jake Sully]

I gotta look this up.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Go ahead.

[Jake Sully]

Hold on.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I dare you.

[Jake Sully]

It's below decks, isn't it?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It is not.

[Plinko]

You're right.

[Jake Sully]

It's below deck.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I knew I would be right.

[Jake Sully]

The singular deck.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Although there are many below deck franchises.

[Jake Sully]

Mediterranean.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Mediterranean. Old school.

[Jake Sully]

Australia.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Down under.

[Jake Sully]

They call it down under. Can you do an Australian accent?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Absolutely not.

[Jake Sully]

Well, of course John Hodgman is here. He has the Judge.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sean, when are you going to realize that you're not sentient?

[Jake Sully]

I don't know. It's going to happen in some way. I mean, we're. We just broke off another Honda. We're a 900 episode. This is our thousandth hundo. Wow. And it's gonna happen at some point. How many episodes of your show have you done?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The Judge Sean Hodgman podcast?

[Jake Sully]

You mean Sean Hoffman.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sean Sean Hodgman.

[Jake Sully]

John Sean Hodgeman.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Look, I'm the first to acknowledge it's a terrible name for a podcast. It's impossible to say. And we. And, and, and so it is almost hilarious to know that we've done almost 700. 700, 700.

[Jake Sully]

Wow. That's an achievement. Congratulations.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Not very interesting. Interesting.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, I. As far as I'm concerned, it's the most interesting topic.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But it comes out every Wednesday on.

[Jake Sully]

MaximumFun.org how many episodes of the Simpsons are there?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

About 700.

[Jake Sully]

How many.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Here we go.

[Jake Sully]

Episodes of the first. It gives me below death.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It's actually not the Simpsons, it's the Simpson.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, interesting. 781.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

781 episodes. You'll get there. Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

They only do 20 a year. If that.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

If you know what, I remember one.

[Jake Sully]

Season they put out one. They were like, that's all we got.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Maybe they'll give me the chance that I gave Justin Long to catch up. Stop for a while and they'll catch up.

[Jake Sully]

Well, the Judge Sean Hoffman podcast is out there and people can get it. We need.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Co created by Jesse Thorp. That's right. And [e-mail] that's right.

[Jake Sully]

We need to take a break. When we come back, we're going to have some deep sea adventurers. We're going to have an entrepreneur. This is a packed show.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Maybe I'll get an idea for a book.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. Yeah. We should ask each of our guests if they have an idea for you.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, I mean, it's your podcast. You can decide.

[Jake Sully]

I decided it. I said I wanted to do it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, that's. That is all, then.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, that is all.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Shall you take us out?

[Jake Sully]

Please take us to commercial. Here we are.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

All right, we're going to a commercial now. And that, as we always say, is all, mate.

[James Cameron]

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[Jake Sully]

Hey, it's me.

[James Cameron]

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[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You that is.

[Scott Aukerman]

Ugh.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

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[Jake Sully]

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[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, my gosh, the food we love, the spice.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, and.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, that show is so fun.

[James Cameron]

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[Jake Sully]

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[Plinko]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[John Hodgman]

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Jake Sully]

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[Plinko]

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[Jake Sully]

Comedy Bang bang. We're back with Judge John Hodgman. See how easy it is? But then I fucked up easy right afterwards you can get the name right, but then anything you say afterwards is going to be yes, incorrect.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's. If you listen to the podcast, you will learn that is exactly what happens.

[Jake Sully]

Really?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Say say my own name, and then I go blank for about 30 minutes.

[Jake Sully]

This is an enticement to listen to your show, but I don't know that I'm going to take you up on it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, you know what? Maybe some of your listeners won't.

[Jake Sully]

I'm too busy making the things. I can't listen to yours.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I understand completely.

[Jake Sully]

How often did you listen to this thing?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

What's that?

[Jake Sully]

How often do you listen to this thing, this comedy?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Bang, bang. Religiously? Every week.

[Jake Sully]

No, you don't.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

If I did, I could do an Australian accent.

[Jake Sully]

That's true.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm not sure why.

[Jake Sully]

And we need to get to.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But I do. But, Scott, God damn it.

[Jake Sully]

Did you hear me dismounting from you?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You didn't say. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

All right, go ahead.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I adore the podcast, and I adore you, and I hope that you someday achieve sentience.

[Jake Sully]

I adore you. I want to hear your show. At one point. I think I heard one episode. I think it was great.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Then you did your bit.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, I did my part.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, absolutely.

[Jake Sully]

I added to those early ratings.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Which put you over the hump.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, absolutely.

[Jake Sully]

Set you up for life.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

We've been over the hump for a long time now. We got that Aukerman hump.

[Jake Sully]

Well, we need to get to our next guests. And, you know, we were saying that we need story ideas for your next book. And ideally, one of these guys is the master of story, and another guy is, I guess, like an army guy, but put them together. They're both deep sea adventurers. We want to welcome them back to the show. Please welcome back James Cameron and Jake Sully, King of the world.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm king of the world, Scott. I'm glad to be back.

[Plinko]

The disrespect right out of the gate is astonishing.

[Jake Sully]

Is that an Australian accent?

[Plinko]

No, I'm American. We all know this. I sound American all the time.

[Jake Sully]

That's right. You are an American.

[Plinko]

I'm an American. That's my catchphrase.

[Jake Sully]

You're part of the U.S. army? No.

[Plinko]

What the fuck is this shit?

[Jake Sully]

What armed forces were you? Didn't you get your legs blown off in the. In a war or something?

[Plinko]

No, my brother, I. I became paralyzed in a motorcycle accident, I believe. My brother was an RDA trooper. They built an avatar off of him. My twin brother, he died. Very expensive. The only way to recoup the investment was to put me in there. I'm not an army guy. I'm an American.

[Jake Sully]

Is that what that movie is about?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Huh?

[Plinko]

Scott? What the fuck? It's the most beloved, successful movie of all time.

[Jake Sully]

We're, of course, talking about the Avatar franchise, of which there are two movies currently released, but there is a third one coming. When?

[Scott Aukerman]

Just in time for Christmas. Scott.

[Plinko]

We're starting the promo tour right here.

[Jake Sully]

So by December 25th, we are set.

[Scott Aukerman]

To release Avatar the third, December 19th, six days before the Birth of Christ is celebrated and we have been at the bottom of the ocean putting this film together.

[Jake Sully]

You've been putting it together at the bottom of the ocean.

[Plinko]

That's where the edit bay is.

[Scott Aukerman]

Where the edit bay is at the bottom of the ocean. I'm. And. And Scott, I'm talking about the very bottom of the ocean.

[Jake Sully]

So. So the.

[Scott Aukerman]

All the way down.

[Plinko]

So deep. Balls deep in the ocean.

[Jake Sully]

So do you put your ass to sleep?

[Scott Aukerman]

Do I put my ass to sleep? What's that mean?

[Jake Sully]

I. That's just a. A euphemism for how deep one can.

[Plinko]

Get up in the guts of that ocean. Or down in the guts, I should say.

[Scott Aukerman]

We are so excited. We've been down there. We've been putting it together. You've been. It's with some exciting stuff.

[Plinko]

It looks incredible. And we're finally ready to start promoting it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It.

[Plinko]

Before we do so in earnest, Scott, I would appreciate an apology.

[Scott Aukerman]

I would also. I would also like an apology.

[Jake Sully]

Scott, an apo. Do you want an apology for the same thing?

[Plinko]

Your history of rudeness and disrespect to our film franchise, but more specifically in the first segment, I heard you say that you're trying to game out how you spend the next four years avoiding hearing that voice, that you don't want to hear it. You're going to block it out. And that clearly is a reference to the fact that two more Avatar films are coming out in the next four years.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, yeah. I, I don't know that I was necessarily talking.

[Scott Aukerman]

You.

[Jake Sully]

I mean, I, I. Look, I've talked about it before. I'm not a fan of these films.

[Plinko]

The Dulce American tones.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, you've only seen. You've only seen two of them. To be honest, I think it's a.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Little early to be declaring judgment that.

[Scott Aukerman]

You'Re not a fan.

[Plinko]

We're not even worried. And that's coming from the judge himself, John Sean Hodgman.

[Jake Sully]

We have been Shawshank.

[Scott Aukerman]

We have shut. We've been living in the world of the Na'vi. We've been living. We've been living in the Avatar.

[Jake Sully]

What is the planet called again?

[Plinko]

Pandora.

[Scott Aukerman]

Pandora.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

One of them.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Don't look at each other to remind each other.

[Plinko]

We know. We're just giving each other support. We know.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. We're very isolated here talking to you because we know you think you don't like these films because you've seen a fraction of what the Avatar franchise has to offer.

[Jake Sully]

I guess you're right. You can't judge something on Just the first. Like if it was a normal film, it'd be 90 minutes. You can't judge it on the first minute or so.

[Scott Aukerman]

I can't the next.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But not everyone.

[Scott Aukerman]

The next film is going to be 192 minutes long, same as Boy of Water. And we're excited because, you know, we wanted. We know. We. We've been looking around, see some glum faces. We came up from the ocean.

[Jake Sully]

You've been looking around down underwater since.

[Plinko]

We came up, Scott. We've been.

[Scott Aukerman]

Follow the narrative. This is basic storytelling. We came up from the bottom of the ocean. We're looking around, we see some glum faces.

[Plinko]

So what happened here? What's going on? Why?

[Jake Sully]

Just walk me through this. You're in the.

[Scott Aukerman]

We're in the bottom of the ocean.

[Jake Sully]

Floater, spear or whatever, wherever you guys are at it, you come up, you pop up. We had a periscope first.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Wait, are you doing post production underwater too?

[Plinko]

Correct.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's not gonna sound right if we do it on land.

[Plinko]

And Avatar's being released in the most formats of any movie ever. So we have to do like 25 different post production processes.

[Jake Sully]

Understandable. So you.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So we American.

[Jake Sully]

Is there a periscope first or where you're looking around and you see the.

[Scott Aukerman]

Glove faces or we'll do a periscope just to check.

[Plinko]

Yeah. And then we post it on periscope. And then James sticks his finger outside the top of the submarine just to test the temperature. Yeah, the wettest finger possible.

[Jake Sully]

And if it's. If it's a temperature you don't like, do you go back down?

[Plinko]

Yeah, correct.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fortunately, we liked the temperature when we came up.

[Plinko]

We did. We said it feels warm out there. And we got up, we saw all these glum faces.

[Scott Aukerman]

We came right.

[Jake Sully]

Where are the glum?

[Scott Aukerman]

Here in Los Angeles. We came right to your studio.

[Plinko]

Straight here starts a promo tour.

[Jake Sully]

I wondered why you're sopping wet.

[Plinko]

People could use some escapism right now.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right now we want to cheer people up. So we are here to talk about the next Avatar movie, Avatar. Fire and ash.

[Plinko]

Fire and ash. We don't know they're sad, but we want to give them some entertaining escapism. Fire and ash coming this Christmas.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fire and ash. Just in time for Christmas. This is going to be. This is going to be the feel good event of the year. Even though some bad things happen in.

[Plinko]

It, it's going to light up up across this great country and these great countries.

[Jake Sully]

As, as I recall, the first one was set in like the jungle. And it was a movie about a bunch of people or creatures who stuck their ponytails into each other's butts. And then not quite the second one was all like set underwater and it was about the. These same guys who are just kind of like swimming around. And then this one, everyone's on fire. Is that what I.

[Plinko]

Bunch of new guys. Guys. I had like five children.

[Jake Sully]

Do you think that. That people want to see people on fire with what's been happening in Los Angeles?

[Scott Aukerman]

First of all, superb summary.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, thank you.

[Scott Aukerman]

I mean, if you have to. If you have to break it down.

[Jake Sully]

To the very elevator pitch is really what it's all about.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You know, Aukerman's famous in. In this Hollywood town for writing log lines. Top logline guy ghost writes all the log lines in town.

[Scott Aukerman]

You.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

A movie needs summarizing, they go to.

[Scott Aukerman]

You're. You're a logline guy.

[Jake Sully]

I'm a log line guy.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

That's, I think in log lines, you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Know, short form storytelling.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They call me Johnny Elicit. That is all. And they call him Scotty Logline. That is all.

[Jake Sully]

You know, some people like long form improv. Some people like short form. You know, blackout sketches at 30 seconds. I. That's. That's what I like.

[Scott Aukerman]

What's your. What's your favorite movie, Scott?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, favorite movie. First of all, there was that one with the train coming right towards the. Very scary.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sorry. Just thinking about it scared me.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, I thought you were worried of being spoiled.

[Plinko]

It didn't say whether or not it stops.

[Jake Sully]

It misses the camera.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, yeah, but I saw the first minute.

[Scott Aukerman]

Give me the log line for that and then give me what you put on the poster.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, so Logline. Several onlookers are very perturbed by the sight of a train coming towards them, wondering if it'll hit them.

[Scott Aukerman]

All right, not bad now. All right, give me what's on the poster.

[Jake Sully]

Train yourself to be terrified this Christmas.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

See, what did I tell you?

[Plinko]

Wait a second. I know we got a lot of promotion.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

He's not just logline guy, he's tagline guy.

[Plinko]

Can we retroactively, what would you have thrown on that fucking Titanic? One sheet.

[Jake Sully]

Titanic probably, if you like the first three letters. Kate Winslet's going to show them.

[Scott Aukerman]

Can I. Can I tell you what?

[Plinko]

Good.

[Scott Aukerman]

Can I tell you what? Because, you know, you think that you've got people earned a certain amount of respect in this business, you'll ship both of these characters.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And people did, didn't they?

[Plinko]

That's a B poster.

[Scott Aukerman]

I, I. And this is part of the reason why I insisted on having tagline and logline approval for Avatars. I was so upset that Titanic rejected the studio. 20th Century Fox, they were terrified.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sure.

[Scott Aukerman]

They thought, is this going to work? Will people like it? And I said, here's what goes on the poster. Not everybody likes to go down.

[Plinko]

And then my pitch was an arrow pointing up to my face and saying, but this guy sure does.

[Jake Sully]

Wait, this was for Titanic.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Titanic.

[Jake Sully]

Your. Your face was on the pose.

[Plinko]

It was sort of later I just said.

[Scott Aukerman]

And 20th Century Fox said, no way. No way is he on the post.

[Jake Sully]

Why is Jake Sully on this?

[Scott Aukerman]

Because he likes to go down.

[Jake Sully]

He's not even a character.

[Scott Aukerman]

He loves it. No. What do you mean, he?

[Jake Sully]

I mean, he existed in your imagination.

[Plinko]

At this point, before this podcast started.

[Scott Aukerman]

The Avatar films take place in a far away world.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

In the future.

[Plinko]

Really deep in the future.

[Scott Aukerman]

Deep in the future.

[Jake Sully]

Really deep.

[Scott Aukerman]

Same timeline, though.

[Jake Sully]

What do you think about finding Nemo and Shark Tale? They did. They, they walked so you could run.

[Plinko]

Well, they swam so that we could dive.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

So swimming is the early version of diving.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

I like those movies. Those movies are pretty wet.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

So you like wet things?

[Scott Aukerman]

I like wet movies.

[Jake Sully]

You like wet movies. What about wet treasure?

[Scott Aukerman]

Wet treasure.

[Jake Sully]

Know a guy you would get along with this guy really well, this guy, Brock Lovett, he loves wet treasure.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wet treasure. Tell me more. I'm excited. I'm interested.

[Jake Sully]

He. If he sees some dry treasure on land, he'll walk by. He. He does not give it the time of day.

[Plinko]

Will he kick it into the ocean so he can go down and get it again?

[Jake Sully]

That's his little workaround. Honestly.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's relatable, Scott.

[Plinko]

That's relatable. That's relatable.

[Jake Sully]

See, like wet movies where we're talking splash.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

That's the onomatopoeia version of, like, diving into the ocean. Is it not?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. If Ronnie Howard hadn't made that film, that might have been what we call Titanic.

[Jake Sully]

Because I probably better off.

[Scott Aukerman]

I kind of. Well, the problem is Titanic. You think, oh, box office. Or you can see. You can see the doubts where Splash O makes a big splash.

[Jake Sully]

Do you ever consider, like, Here comes the Berg?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. But then there was the movie the Burbs, and we were worried that. That people would mishear it and they'd think, here comes the burbs. Sounds like a sequel. Sounds like.

[Plinko]

I remember when Kevin James back Here Comes the Boom was coming out, Right?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

James And I were holding hands all weekend because we were like, if this thing opens to 150 million, we're going to feel like idiots.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

And when it opened below 10, it was. Was like, okay, we went the right way.

[Jake Sully]

Although Here comes the Boom could also be the alternate title to Titanic, because.

[Scott Aukerman]

For a hot second, we were gonna call it Ice Tribe Big Boat. And then we were hot on that title for a bit.

[Plinko]

We were Ice Tribe. And by the way, it was testing well.

[Scott Aukerman]

It was testing.

[Plinko]

It was testing really well.

[Jake Sully]

Here's my question, James. And. Sorry, sit this one out. What's your name? Jake Sully.

[Plinko]

I'm Jake Sully. I'm the biggest movie star of all time. I'm the highest grossing actor in history.

[Jake Sully]

You're not an actor. You're a character. Character, though.

[Plinko]

What's the difference?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

My man, to a real actor, there is no difference.

[Jake Sully]

That's the point.

[Plinko]

That's gets it.

[Jake Sully]

But so you. That is all you make this movie about with water. And. And water. We all know when we freeze it, it becomes ice.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Ice, baby.

[Jake Sully]

And then you're like, let's. Let's do some more of that.

[Scott Aukerman]

With this last Avatar, all this will be explained. You know, one of the things that we're excited about. I know last time we announced that we would be progressing the number of avatars that come out exponentially.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah. To. To. To where pretty soon all movies would be Avatar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. I mean, all willing.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

The hope is to eventually fold back in, start carving up the movies that already exist that weren't turning Avatars.

[Plinko]

Tavatar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. T. Well, not just my movies. I know. But that's a good place.

[Jake Sully]

A wonderful lavitar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah. Yes. Although we want to be careful because the way that the. The L rolls over, we. We. Lavatar sounds like a lavatory. Yes. And that will be a movie that we make. We will be making. One of the Avatars will be called Lavatory. Lavatory.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Lavatory.

[Jake Sully]

Because to be honest, I've watched these movies and I've wondered, where does Jake Sully go to the bathroom? You know, it's like a jungle planet. Where does he go?

[Scott Aukerman]

I'll tell you where he goes wherever he wants.

[Plinko]

Thank you.

[Scott Aukerman]

And that's true.

[Plinko]

On set, biggest song, I go, james, hand me a vosbury puddle.

[Jake Sully]

Are you. Are you doing. Are you pulling a Jim Belushi? Where you're just. Allegedly.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Allegedly.

[Plinko]

Look, sometimes I'm pulling a Jim Belushi. Sometimes I'm pulling a Danny Thomas. Sometimes I'm pushing. Pulling a Dwayne The Rock Johnson. I go.

[Jake Sully]

Chuck Berry.

[John Hodgman]

Ever.

[Plinko]

Yeah, a couple times.

[Scott Aukerman]

Day one. Day one on Fire and Ash. We're getting ready for the first take.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Speed. Sound rolling.

[Jake Sully]

Sure. I know the terms. Yeah. I know the jargon.

[Scott Aukerman]

We're ready to go. Jake turns to me and says, james, hand me a priceless Ming vase.

[Jake Sully]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

Now, I happen to have one with me.

[Plinko]

Sure.

[Jake Sully]

You have a collection. I'm sure.

[Plinko]

Yeah. And I. I said. I said, james.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

Get Bob Iger on FaceTime right now. I want him to see this so he knows who's boss.

[Jake Sully]

Right?

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

And you just relieved yourself right into the vase.

[Plinko]

Absolutely.

[Jake Sully]

Wow. That's.

[Scott Aukerman]

It went up in V value.

[Jake Sully]

Whoa. But it's priceless. So how does it go up in value?

[Scott Aukerman]

It's priceless times two.

[Plinko]

Priceless. Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

So it would be two.

[Scott Aukerman]

Two prices.

[Jake Sully]

Unimaginable prices.

[Plinko]

Priceless. Goof.

[Scott Aukerman]

All you got to do is not be able to imagine two things.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

I don't think that I have the capacity to do that.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, I know that you don't, Scott. Yeah.

[Plinko]

It's like a David Fincher 7.

[Scott Aukerman]

I can't wait to pull this podcast into the Avatar series.

[Jake Sully]

Why are you talking at the same time?

[Plinko]

We have so much to say on our press tour.

[Scott Aukerman]

If we're gonna talk at the same time. You can just take the ste. Stems.

[Plinko]

Would take the separation.

[Jake Sully]

We'll try to separate whatever it was. You both said you were talking about the David Fincher 7.

[Plinko]

We're using mixing lingo. Sound mixing lingo. Because we're deep in the mix. The stems of the mix.

[Jake Sully]

Can I ask this. This movie. Fire and ash escapism. Are. Are there matches in this world?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Underwater?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yes.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Go on.

[Plinko]

There's also much. Dot com.

[Jake Sully]

Match dot com. Really? So, like. Like, Jake Sully, are you out there, like, going on.

[Plinko]

I'm a married man. I have children. I have. My family's a fortress.

[Jake Sully]

I don't know.

[Plinko]

You don't know about Niri?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is that a character?

[Jake Sully]

Is that a character?

[Plinko]

Scott. She's the most successful actress of all time.

[Jake Sully]

Are we. Are we talking Zoe Saldania?

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Huh.

[Plinko]

It's about to win an Oscar.

[Jake Sully]

Maybe.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

We'll find out.

[Jake Sully]

We'll find out. The tilde is now pronounced.

[Plinko]

That's true. But she's my wife.

[Jake Sully]

She's your wife.

[Plinko]

I'm not signing up for Match.com. i'm. I'm a loyal man.

[Jake Sully]

But your kids are or something. I don't know.

[Plinko]

My kids are many things. They're my fortress. Loak. Took my son who died.

[Jake Sully]

What's that character's name?

[Plinko]

We're not gonna talk about him.

[Scott Aukerman]

Don't do that. That's not what this.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

He's not in the next one.

[Plinko]

We're looking.

[Scott Aukerman]

I can't wait to fold this podcast into the Avatar.

[Plinko]

We'll never forget him, but we'll never say him his name.

[Jake Sully]

This avatar is not going to be part of the Avatar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Eventually, we're gonna get your whole back catalog, your whole library. We're gonna fold it away. We're gonna get the book. We're gonna fold the book in this. It's gonna be published second edition. It'll be. Have an Avatar logo at the top.

[Jake Sully]

No.

[Plinko]

Avatar. Avatar.

[Jake Sully]

I don't want to be part of the Avatar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Avatar. Bang, bang.

[Jake Sully]

I don't like these things.

[Plinko]

Comedy death Avatar.

[Jake Sully]

These are st. These are stupid.

[Plinko]

Everyone likes them.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm gonna.

[Jake Sully]

I cannot name a single person who has ever liked one.

[Scott Aukerman]

James Cameron.

[Plinko]

Jake Sully. That's two, right?

[Scott Aukerman]

We just did it times two. I'm gonna take your last name. I'm gonna take the A. I like it so much. I'm gonna take the U. I'm gonna squeeze it till it's a V. I'm gonna take the K. I'm gonna make another A out of it. I'm gonna take the. No, I'm gonna take the top stem. I'm gonna break it off. I'm gonna put it in. So it's in between. So we got another little R. You're gonna be Scott, Avatar man.

[Plinko]

This is the thing you need to understand.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's so close. It's so close.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It's very close.

[Scott Aukerman]

It takes very little effort. I do it without breaking a sweat.

[Plinko]

James is a conservationist, right? So he doesn't things.

[Scott Aukerman]

I won't waste your name. I will use it to make a new.

[Plinko]

Using every part of the buffalo. So when we're changing these titles, we're not hitting delete once we're recrafting the letters.

[Scott Aukerman]

Comedy. Splash. Splash.

[Plinko]

That's funny.

[Jake Sully]

And what font is this? This is in the.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, yeah, in the Papyrus.

[Plinko]

Proprietary fonts.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm Papyrus. We use.

[Jake Sully]

Well, guys, I wish you luck with these.

[Plinko]

We don't need luck.

[Scott Aukerman]

We don't need luck. That's all. These are already the most successful things, most anticipated movies.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, but each one that comes out, you guys got to be thinking, like, when does everyone realize that these are stupid, right? I mean, like, that's got to be in the back of your mind.

[Plinko]

I can't relate to Your experience. Maybe that's what happens every time you record an episode we watch.

[Jake Sully]

I mean, honestly, it's. This is still. And I'm thinking this might be the one.

[Scott Aukerman]

In all seriousness, Scott, I get that you're making a joke. I get that's what you do.

[Plinko]

That's what you do.

[Scott Aukerman]

I made true lies. I know how to make a comedy.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's true.

[Plinko]

That gets them wet. That's funny.

[Jake Sully]

Well, guys, Avatar 3 Fire and Ash smash. December what you say? 19th. December 19th. People can see it in 3D I would imagine you, you high frame rates. You ever going to add a dimension?

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Like just squirt water on people, you.

[Plinko]

Know, while they 40x that's happen.

[Scott Aukerman]

No, we have it. Whenever there's a gunshot, it blows on you.

[Plinko]

Yeah. Sometimes it punches you in the back.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

These aren't bits.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is just real describing what 40x is. There's a gunshot, it goes and it blows on your neck.

[Plinko]

We're working on 5dx though.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

What's the 5th dimension?

[Plinko]

Stick the ponytail in the pud.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's right.

[Plinko]

I'm sorry. Stick the ponytail in the hand hold.

[Jake Sully]

Or else it gets the hose again. Of course. Well, guys, I wish you love with this your creative endeavors. We need to take a break. Can you stick around? I mean, I know you're so successful and you need to get back to the editing, but there are still some glum faces over here. Yeah, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we have an entree. Entrepreneur will have more, John Hodgman will have more, James Cameron, and senior name is Jake Sully. We'll be right back with more comedy Bang bang after this.

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[James Cameron]

Might say, this is ludicrous.

[Scott Aukerman]

But that won't fix your home. That will only get you the wrapper. Ludacris.

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[Scott Aukerman]

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[Jake Sully]

Thanks, Mr. Chris.

[Scott Aukerman]

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[Jake Sully]

Comedy bang bang. We have John Hodgman here. Rock and tour X of the Daily Show. You gonna go back to the Daily Show? I mean, Jon Stewart is back. I gu. And did you get the call of like, hey, come on back and do the thing that you used to do?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No.

[Jake Sully]

All right, well, but I'd love to.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

If they decide to call, but they're very busy and I am not reading the news, so it might not be the best.

[Jake Sully]

Might not work out. We also have James Cameron and Jake Sully are here.

[Scott Aukerman]

King of the world.

[Jake Sully]

Let's get to our next guest. She's an entrepreneur. This is exciting. Never been on the show before. Please welcome Kitty Cjoy. Sage.

[James Cameron]

Aw, Hi. Hello. Hi. Thank you so much for having me.

[Jake Sully]

It's so good to meet you. This is John Hodgman.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

How do you do?

[Jake Sully]

And James Cameron is.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I just got a hug.

[Jake Sully]

Fictional character, Jake Sully, real movie star, though.

[James Cameron]

Fictional character. I love that. And hi. James Cameron.

[Scott Aukerman]

Hello.

[James Cameron]

I have some products for you.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, products.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. What is it? I. I assume these are products that you sell. Is that.

[James Cameron]

Yes. So I have opened a Skins Care product line.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

Skin of Skin's care products.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Skins Care Skin.

[James Cameron]

So we all know what skins is like.

[Jake Sully]

Epidermis, the organ that is surrounding our body.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The largest organ in the human body.

[Plinko]

Obviously.

[Jake Sully]

Depends on who you're talking to.

[Plinko]

Hey, Scott, we can agree on that.

[James Cameron]

That is such a good one. So I have a line of skin scares that is scientifically proven, proven to be scientific, and it is full of problems. But here's the thing. How many products have you seen that have so many ingredients? Like, we're talking 200, 300 things in there. Jam packed, right? They're jam packed with things. You're like, what is this? What is C4 7, 6. You know, so I've made products that are full of just five ingredients that involve one very specific scientifically proven thing. I have a question.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

What is skin skins eat?

[Jake Sully]

Huh?

[James Cameron]

Guess what's in here. Other skins.

[Jake Sully]

That's true. I mean skin particles are everywhere.

[James Cameron]

Skin particles is in everything. Those have never been taken down into one scientifically proven ingredient to put into a product to help skins eat more skins.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So the first ingredient in your product would be.

[James Cameron]

Skin.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Skin.

[Jake Sully]

Skin. Okay, great. So this is.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

What type of product is this again?

[James Cameron]

Skins Care.

[Jake Sully]

Skins care. Yeah. So this is a. Some sort of a product you put on your skin. Skins.

[James Cameron]

That is right.

[Jake Sully]

And the first ingredient is. Skins.

[James Cameron]

Skins.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, got it.

[James Cameron]

So skins usually some kind of fruit like a pomegranate or a naranja something and then something else like chicken push. And then other two minerals.

[Plinko]

Can I just ask one follow up question?

[James Cameron]

And I would love that.

[Plinko]

So I love the five ingredient cap.

[James Cameron]

Thank you. Because that if you can count it on one hand, I say yes. Put it. Get high five.

[Plinko]

Yeah, yeah. Cool. I got big hands.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So count it, five it, spread it on your hand.

[James Cameron]

That's it. I love that. I'm going to use that.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, that's great. Please. That is all.

[Plinko]

It sounds like the other skins is like the cornerstone ingredient that's going to be in every bottle.

[James Cameron]

That's right. Other skins.

[Plinko]

And it sort of makes it sound the way you just described it. Like the other four ingredients are kind of a free for all based on whatever's closest at that time.

[James Cameron]

I do. Like whatever's in grasp. I have, but. But it's all pro proven by science.

[Plinko]

There were just quite a few maybes.

[Jake Sully]

When you were listing minerals. Maybe this will be in it. Maybe this will be in it.

[Plinko]

So is every bottle different?

[James Cameron]

Yes.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

So that's four. That's four ingredients. Skins, neurona, chicken push. Minerals.

[James Cameron]

Two. Two different kinds.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Two different kinds of minerals?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

You have to listen when I'm explaining.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

So two different kinds of minerals. One is scientifically proven and one we're still waiting to find out.

[Scott Aukerman]

What I respect about what you do is the timid wait to figure out what's safe and the bold forge ahead and prove what's safe.

[James Cameron]

But isn't that what life is?

[Scott Aukerman]

That is exactly.

[James Cameron]

That is what life is. It's a teaching of what we know and what we don't know.

[Scott Aukerman]

I hope you're writing this down, Scott. Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Why would I be writing something down in the middle of a podcast? I'm just. If I really wanted to remember it, I'd go listen to it again. And I'm not going to.

[Scott Aukerman]

You have a whiteboard right next to your mixing board. I know you don't want people to know about that.

[Plinko]

Take that pen out.

[Jake Sully]

It's just to remember Jake Sully's name.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think you're to be commended for what you do.

[James Cameron]

Thank you. So I have products that are. But I would love to be the sponsor for Kami Bang Bang.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

That's why I'm so excited to be here today, because I've been really trying to get meeting in with you. I really want to be the skin care product of Coffee Bang Bang.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, please don't. Don't. You're. You're tearing up right now.

[James Cameron]

I'm so excited about it.

[Jake Sully]

James. You're so excited right now. Her face is so wet. Can we try this before I greet.

[James Cameron]

Anything I have here for.

[Scott Aukerman]

I do have to. This is water soluble.

[James Cameron]

Yes, it is.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because I'm gonna get. I'm gonna. I'm in the ocean.

[James Cameron]

It's actually really good for waters, so. Yeah. So that one is naran. Huh?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Neuron.

[Jake Sully]

Huh?

[James Cameron]

That one's chicken skins.

[Jake Sully]

This is chicken skin plus skin.

[James Cameron]

Okay. Chicken skin, regular skin.

[Scott Aukerman]

This is a good burn.

[Plinko]

Yeah, it feels great in my pony.

[James Cameron]

And then those two minerals.

[Jake Sully]

This is very coarse.

[James Cameron]

A little bit of chicken push and.

[Jake Sully]

Then maybe a little bit of chickenpox.

[James Cameron]

Just a little bit.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

I have a different.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I just remembered that I have an intense chicken push allergy. So how maybe are we on this? Because I put this stuff all over my face.

[James Cameron]

So I have a scientist looking into that. And I'll let you know by the end of the podcast.

[Jake Sully]

I gotta say, mine that you gave me, my sample is mainly mineral. It's just like a rock.

[James Cameron]

Okay, well, that's good. That's lucky, actually, if you get. Oh, just mineral.

[Jake Sully]

But it feels bad when I try to apply it for slough.

[James Cameron]

What you're doing right now is called sloughing.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, is it really red right now?

[James Cameron]

I've seen a reaction that means it's working.

[Plinko]

It's working.

[James Cameron]

That means it's working.

[Jake Sully]

Working incorrectly, though.

[James Cameron]

No, Working. Right.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

Can I tell y'all a secret?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, please tell us a secret.

[James Cameron]

So I bet you're wondering how, how, how. How am I able to come up with all these ideas?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I have a question. Yeah, how, how, how, how are you able to come up with these ideas?

[James Cameron]

He's swelling a bit, but that is normal.

[Jake Sully]

It's normal.

[James Cameron]

That is actually.

[Jake Sully]

Why aren't you?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

The question stands. That is all.

[James Cameron]

It works different on every person. And so. And you're having a swelling reaction, which just means it's working. Okay, so you're wondering, how do I get all these ideas?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

I have a secret.

[Jake Sully]

So wait, the secret is that you have a secret?

[James Cameron]

Yes.

[Jake Sully]

Okay, tell us this secret. Do you have another secret?

[James Cameron]

I have another secret holding that secret.

[Plinko]

Holy shit.

[Jake Sully]

What is the third secret?

[James Cameron]

I have someone special who lives in my home.

[Jake Sully]

You have someone special who lives in your home?

[James Cameron]

Secret.

[Jake Sully]

Like a roommate?

[Plinko]

An in law?

[James Cameron]

No.

[Plinko]

A pet?

[James Cameron]

No. Kind of. No. Okay, let me tell you. Are you want to know?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah. I think we're out of guesses.

[James Cameron]

Okay. It's a Esther Trestrail, an et have you guys seen et? Did you ever wonder where that thing went?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, I think it went home, ostensibly back to its home planet.

[Plinko]

We didn't see him get there, though.

[Jake Sully]

That's true. We saw him get in the spaceship. How do we know he landed?

[Plinko]

They were cowards. They ended at one.

[James Cameron]

Okay. He did go home, but then he was like, not anymore. I'm going back.

[Plinko]

Hey, can I sidebar with you for one moment?

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

This is a sidebar.

[Plinko]

Yeah, Just quick sidebar, guys. Yeah. So the. The ET who lives with you is.

[James Cameron]

E. T. It is the ET but he has a name.

[Jake Sully]

What's his. What's ET's name?

[James Cameron]

Plinko.

[Jake Sully]

Pinko. Plinko like the Price is Right game or Pinko, like what we used to call communists.

[James Cameron]

Oh, well, I think it's the fun one.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, Plinko.

[Plinko]

That's what you said the first time. That worked out well.

[James Cameron]

Yeah. Plinko.

[Jake Sully]

Plinko.

[James Cameron]

Plinko. You know what his planet's called?

[Plinko]

What?

[James Cameron]

Soupy Goo Goo.

[Jake Sully]

Soupy Goo Goo.

[James Cameron]

Yes.

[Plinko]

So Plinko from Soupy Cuckoo is here in Hollywood now?

[James Cameron]

Yes, he lives in my home.

[Plinko]

Is he? And just sidebar quickly. Is he taking this?

[Jake Sully]

This doesn't need to be a sidebar. These are the questions. We all know.

[Plinko]

Sidebar. This is personal.

[James Cameron]

Yes.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sidebar. Do you have an EpiPen? Because I'm getting tired of this.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, I. I think I have an EpiPen somewhere. Here.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Here.

[Scott Aukerman]

Wait. Try this.

[James Cameron]

Oh, here. Actually, I have another self for you. That's going to fix that.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No, thank you.

[Jake Sully]

Here. Yeah, can I just jab you with it? Here I. Pulp Fiction styled right in the heart. That is all. Okay.

[Plinko]

Is Plinko taking meetings? Is he trying to get work?

[James Cameron]

I'll talk to him about that okay.

[Plinko]

Because I've just kind of.

[James Cameron]

Yeah, he's amazing. Well, I know, but we're kind of dating.

[Jake Sully]

But you're dating Plinko.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

How does that. I mean, you know, how's that work? You're. You're two different species, I guess.

[James Cameron]

Okay, so remember when he put on that outfit and he could go out during Halloween? On Halloween.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

He was a ghost.

[Scott Aukerman]

He was a terrorist.

[Jake Sully]

He was a terrorist. Well, the kids were terrorists.

[Scott Aukerman]

They were all terrorists.

[Jake Sully]

He was a ghost, was he not?

[James Cameron]

He was a ghost. Yeah.

[Plinko]

Put a sheet over.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Ghost protocol. He was a terrorist.

[James Cameron]

So he is just sometimes he puts on wigs and.

[Jake Sully]

And like when he was in the closet.

[James Cameron]

Yeah, yeah. And so one day he did that and I was like, you're hot. And then we started dating. Yeah.

[Plinko]

He's making the products with.

[James Cameron]

Well, he is helping me co create. Yeah. And he. He's been the one who's really talked about, like, hey, you guys, quit it with spf. Like, things are. The sun is now on your side.

[Jake Sully]

Well, yeah. I mean, he's got a really brown, wrinkly body, so he doesn't care if.

[James Cameron]

His, you know, hey, that's my boyfriend.

[Jake Sully]

I. I beg you. I mean. But you like it.

[James Cameron]

I love it. Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

So, I mean, that's a compliment.

[James Cameron]

I know, but isn't that funny that his wrinkly body is helping me make skins? That's.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

How are you harvesting wrinkly Plinko skins for your skin screen?

[James Cameron]

Well, I'm scientifically proving those now. Now? Yeah, I've been sending them to the. To the sciences. To the sciences, yeah, to the labs. And they can let me know by the end of the podcast.

[Jake Sully]

And Plinko helped you develop this because it's his skin. And did he give you the technology for the mineral that doesn't really exist?

[James Cameron]

I think he. Yeah, he brought that mineral down from Soupy Goo Goo. And I think that with that is where we've really been able to expand and think about what could this be?

[Jake Sully]

So this is almost. Almost like, you know, Kryptonite. Yes, in a way. A mineral that doesn't exist here on Earth.

[James Cameron]

Exactly. We don't have a name for it yet.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. But it could be Soupy Goo Goo. Oh, Night. Or something like that.

[James Cameron]

It could be. To be Googoo. We actually have tried to push that name out, but we almost got sued by Gwyneth, by.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, because of Goop.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Because of Goop.

[Jake Sully]

Because the Go.

[James Cameron]

I would be careful now.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That's why babies never say that anymore. They never say goo goo anymore.

[James Cameron]

Careful, you guys.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[James Cameron]

She's really careful about where you say wet again.

[Jake Sully]

I would. I think she copyrighted, like, Going down and. And wishing people that sue her to have a nice life. Excuse me.

[Plinko]

I copyrighted Going Down. If you catch my drinks.

[Jake Sully]

All right.

[Plinko]

Check the poster.

[Jake Sully]

I don't want to high five again. So what is.

[James Cameron]

Sorry, but E.T. i'll sit.

[Jake Sully]

E.T. really?

[James Cameron]

I think that's maybe TMI. My b. E.T.

[Plinko]

Go down.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

E.T. go.

[Jake Sully]

Is it uncomfortable for him because he's got that long neck?

[James Cameron]

Helps him.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think it's nei nei ne. Not enough information is.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, right.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Ep Extrapolate, please. Or elaborate. I should have said. What kind of. What kind of humorist am I?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah. Really?

[James Cameron]

Okay. I have another secret.

[Jake Sully]

You have another secret? I mean, this is all the effects. I gotta say.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Chicken push.

[Jake Sully]

This was huge already.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

The fact that ET has come back. He's from a planet named Soupy Goo Goo. His name is Plinko.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

And he's going down on you on the reg.

[Plinko]

And he's taking meetings around town.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah. These are huge and huge revelations.

[Scott Aukerman]

Not with Netflix.

[James Cameron]

This one's a little bit for him. Tmi. But in your. Maybe not in it.

[Jake Sully]

Any.

[James Cameron]

I think that's it. Some of the products have been tested and scientifically proven using Plinko's excretions.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. Excretions.

[James Cameron]

Jizz.

[Jake Sully]

I mean, as excretions go, that's one of the better ones.

[James Cameron]

I know. So I'm just saying that you all have put that on you today and you're glowing.

[Scott Aukerman]

I thought you meant the way you tested them was that Plinko would jizz on the product.

[Plinko]

That's Hawaiian.

[Scott Aukerman]

Because you said some of these had been tested using his jizz, that he would ejaculate.

[Plinko]

The eye was jizz resistant.

[Jake Sully]

I think what Kitty Cjoy Sage is trying to say is that they've tested them and found that there is his ejaculate within.

[James Cameron]

Yes.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And it is particularly effective for what.

[James Cameron]

It is effective for. Anti wrinkle.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Anti wrinkle.

[Jake Sully]

Anti wrinkle.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Why doesn't he jizz on himself then? He's very wrinkly.

[Jake Sully]

Maybe he likes his wrinkles like you do.

[James Cameron]

I think he does. Yeah. I think he really likes it. I think he embraces it. And I. I think that that's also a good message.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You gotta love yourself. You gotta love yourself.

[James Cameron]

I think it's a good message for the world. Embrace yourself.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Even if, I mean we could all be jizzing on ourselves and looking fantastic.

[James Cameron]

Exactly.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

But we gotta love ourselves first.

[James Cameron]

That's right.

[Plinko]

Learn a few tricks.

[Scott Aukerman]

Do we know how? Maybe he'd be even more wrinkled if he wasn't using the product.

[Jake Sully]

That's a good point.

[Scott Aukerman]

Like we, we're seeing how wrinkled Plinko is when he is jizzing on himself.

[Plinko]

This is him looking relatively bbs.

[Jake Sully]

Right.

[Plinko]

Baby bottom smooth.

[James Cameron]

Yeah. Right.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Right. Thank you.

[Jake Sully]

To be honest.

[Scott Aukerman]

Relatively baby bottom smooth.

[Jake Sully]

To be honest, if these crows feed would go away, then I would, I would trade that for having Plinko jizz in my face.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

Or in these cups. And I would smear it on my face. Whatever. Whatever way these cups.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, that's what these were.

[Scott Aukerman]

Those were a gift. Scott.

[James Cameron]

I know I gave you these cuts.

[Scott Aukerman]

From the these commemorative promotional Avatar Fire and Ash cups.

[Jake Sully]

I didn't realize these were commemorative cups.

[Plinko]

I'm sorry, you didn't realize the giant logo that said Avatar Fire and ash.

[Jake Sully]

Come to the theaters December19. I thank you for the gift.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

They're shaped like a Na'vi hand hole. How do you not know?

[Jake Sully]

I apologize. I, I, I meant just cups in general.

[James Cameron]

Well, the good news is I'm g, I'm giving you all a gift basket giveaway to take away from you.

[Jake Sully]

We have to give them away from.

[James Cameron]

No, I'm giving them away to you.

[Plinko]

Wow.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right now what we are experiencing is the gift basket giveaway.

[Plinko]

Yeah. You're about to receive away.

[Scott Aukerman]

Can I ask you a question about the pressure on these bottles? Because we're going to be taking these fathoms deep.

[James Cameron]

I love that is scientifically proven that they will be absolutely 100% fine down there.

[Scott Aukerman]

So these aren't going to explode on the way down?

[James Cameron]

No, they've been flown. They've been, they've been flown. They've been deep seated. Good seat.

[Jake Sully]

I mean these have gone all the way to. What is it?

[James Cameron]

Soupy Juby Goo goo.

[Jake Sully]

Soupy Goo Goo.

[James Cameron]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

Soupy Juby is a, is a future avatar planet that I told you about in confidence.

[James Cameron]

Can we come to Soupy Jupy? Because I've been dying to go there.

[Scott Aukerman]

You're welcome.

[Plinko]

Okay. Wait, can I say bubble James for a second?

[Scott Aukerman]

Sure.

[Plinko]

I'm thinking why treat them like competition? Let's fold them in.

[Scott Aukerman]

Let's fold them in.

[Plinko]

Let's get in series A round on these products. But also also get Plinko in our movies. So he's not the competition.

[Jake Sully]

Hey guys. What are you talking about over here?

[Plinko]

Scott, Respectfully back all the the way off.

[Jake Sully]

That is respectfully.

[Plinko]

Respectfully Scott.

[Jake Sully]

I'd hate. This is still respectful, Scott.

[Plinko]

From the bottom of my heart, you hack.

[James Cameron]

You guys back off.

[Jake Sully]

Hack.

[James Cameron]

I'm gonna break you apart right now.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Crow footed Android. Back the off.

[James Cameron]

I have.

[Plinko]

Respectfully.

[James Cameron]

I have been listening to everything you were talking about. But the really good news is I'm really good at keeping secrets.

[Plinko]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh.

[Plinko]

How would you like to join our universe?

[James Cameron]

I would love it.

[Plinko]

Oh my God. James.

[Jake Sully]

And you think Plinko would be on board?

[James Cameron]

I think he'd be on board.

[Plinko]

Does he like to go deep? Yeah, but like really deep.

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, it sounds like a good fit.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

You like trees?

[James Cameron]

I love trees.

[Scott Aukerman]

You sound like a good fit. You like water?

[Plinko]

I got some great news for you.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

The nav. The dominant species of Planet Pandora.

[James Cameron]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

They have so much skins. Glowing blue skins everywhere.

[James Cameron]

I'm excited about this.

[Plinko]

This is a really good deal. Hey, John.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, what's up, Jake? Sully. Sorry. Sidebar. Quiet. Sidebar.

[Scott Aukerman]

Come over here.

[Plinko]

I'm thinking we could maybe.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah.

[Plinko]

Benefit from folding him in on the steel.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I. I mean, honestly, you know, I've been thinking of an idea for a book this whole time. I can't.

[Scott Aukerman]

How about you fold that book and you write the book on screen during Avatar 3.

[Plinko]

Fire and Ash books fold.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

We could just have one novelization slash pop up book.

[James Cameron]

We could have just one camera on him as he writes the whole time in a popping picture.

[Plinko]

Multi screen experience.

[Jake Sully]

Guys, can I come over or. Oh, come on.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

We're still sidebarring.

[Plinko]

But yeah, really, like you can come stand by the side of the sidebar.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. I really want to be a part of this.

[Scott Aukerman]

Fold you in.

[Jake Sully]

I'd love to be folded.

[James Cameron]

You want to be folded?

[Plinko]

You want to get folded?

[Jake Sully]

I'd like. I mean, to be honest, I was big fan of Plinkos when that movie came out, you know, and I was. I was crying when he. When he left to go to Soupy Goo.

[James Cameron]

We all were.

[Jake Sully]

And I would love to see him again. I'd love to like share the screen with him. Even if it was like a pop up video style of just, you know, me and him, bro and out down in the corner.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You could be like a robot butler or something. Right?

[Plinko]

And you cried at the end of the first avatar when my consciousness transferred from the home tree into the new Nivea heavy body.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Right.

[Jake Sully]

Is that what happened during that.

[Plinko]

Jesus.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Spoilers.

[James Cameron]

Can I give you guys a movie quote and tell me if you know what movie it is.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

This is fun.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Okay. I didn't see anything. You're perfect.

[Scott Aukerman]

Avatar the way of water.

[James Cameron]

Let me do the voice. I didn't see anything.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You're perfect.

[Plinko]

Yeah, I. I'm gonna back him up. I think that's an audience member having just seen Avatar the way of.

[Scott Aukerman]

I think the first quote was someone in the lobby.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[Jake Sully]

I, I.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Because it was a little quieter.

[Scott Aukerman]

Right. The first person. I didn't see anything.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Scott Aukerman]

It couldn't get into Avatar the way of water.

[Plinko]

Sold out.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then you're perfect with someone in the theater walking out, thumbs up. Talking back to the screen.

[James Cameron]

Here's another hint.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

There's water involved. Something else you're obsessed with.

[Plinko]

I didn't see anything.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I didn't see anything.

[Jake Sully]

Say, do it. Do.

[James Cameron]

I didn't see anything.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, you're perfect.

[Scott Aukerman]

Hold on. Is it CSE A SE A?

[James Cameron]

No.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No.

[Scott Aukerman]

I didn't see any SEs. Hold on. I didn't see anything.

[James Cameron]

I didn't. I didn't see anything.

[Scott Aukerman]

Sea E E. Could you say that.

[Jake Sully]

You'Re perfect line again? Yeah, you're perfect.

[Plinko]

And it's that big that you're perfect.

[Jake Sully]

You kind of just got her hands up.

[James Cameron]

Yeah, I didn't see anything.

[Jake Sully]

Everything.

[Scott Aukerman]

You're perfect.

[Plinko]

Analyze this.

[James Cameron]

Okay, here's another. Here's another hint.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

There's an opening of a shower curtain. I didn't see anything.

[Scott Aukerman]

Oh, this is Hitchcock. This is you're perfect.

[Jake Sully]

Yes, Definitely. Psycho shower movie, famous shower curtain, famous comedy. Did you say it was a comedy?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, the bit is wet.

[Plinko]

God.

[Scott Aukerman]

See anything?

[Plinko]

Open shower curtains. Sees naked lady, turns around, apologizes I didn't see anything. And then belies the fact that he did in fact see things by saying, you're perfect. Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is this true? Lies. There are other movies. But he did see something clearly.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Do you want to know?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Do you want me to tell you who the actor was?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plinko.

[James Cameron]

Ronnie Dangerfield in.

[Plinko]

In Ladybugs.

[James Cameron]

No.

[Jake Sully]

God.

[James Cameron]

What was his other big movie?

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

You win a whole gift basket?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

No, thank you.

[Jake Sully]

Well, Kitty Seajoy Sage. I have to say, this is a wild, wild story. You're perfect. Thank you.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is it Seajoy Sea or.

[Jake Sully]

It is sea Joy.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, wow.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Surprised you didn't catch that, Jamie.

[Jake Sully]

Amazing.

[Scott Aukerman]

I didn't catch that. Some fish get away from you.

[Jake Sully]

That's right.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Are there ever more in the ocean.

[James Cameron]

Really slippery. And that's the salves.

[Jake Sully]

Well, guys, we are running out of time. We only have time, unfortunately, for one final Feature that is of course a little something called plug. Oh, what do you do now? The show's nearly done and what'll you do, my Scotty young one? Will you go and avenge the a.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Claimed by a hag?

[Jake Sully]

Will you go and open up the plug bag? Will you talk on and on about your broken foot affliction? We choose try and deny your anti addiction Cuz it's a plug, it's a plug, it's a plug, it's a plug, it's a plug man.

[Plinko]

This song is done.

[Jake Sully]

Goodbye. That's very akin to that as all that was Bob Dylan. Thank you so much to Bob Dylan versus. Yeah, no, I actually, I believe Bob Dylan is working under a. What's the word for him? Pseudonym. Yeah, Owen Walsh sent that in. That is a hard Plugs are gonna Bag by Owen Walsh. Thank you so much, guys. And. And when I say guys, I mean Owen. And what do we have here to plug John? What?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, you already mentioned my books. Vacation land medallion status Judge John Hoffman available maximumfound.org.org.org sir, every Wednesday Dicktown on Hulu. But I was just reminded by that I'm also in this movie called A Complete Unknown. Oh yeah, I saw that.

[Jake Sully]

And you're in that?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Yeah, it's a short scene.

[Jake Sully]

There's a whole scene.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I play the.

[Jake Sully]

How did I forget that you're in this?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I play the ventriloquist dummy Charlie McCarthy, the. The loathsome coastal elite. And at some point Bob Dylan. Timothy Chalamet playing Bob Dylan playing Bob Dylan snatches me out of Edgar Bergen's lap.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, right.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And brings me out of the alley and kicks me until I'm.

[Jake Sully]

That's because he thinks that you. That you're real. You are.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I'm a loathsome coastal elite. I represent the old Garden authority and stuff.

[Jake Sully]

All right, wonderful.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, you check it out on the cut scenes.

[Jake Sully]

Check that out in theaters. And then Kitty Cjoy Sage. What do we plug in here?

[James Cameron]

So I heard that you can sees things. How do I do blocks?

[Jake Sully]

Well. Well, what are you interested in?

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Is there an artist that a creator.

[Jake Sully]

Or a TV show or a recommendation?

[James Cameron]

Oh yeah, I love the show. Matlock on CBS with Kathy Bates.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah, yeah, she's. She's undercover.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Kathy Bates, the star of Titanic, if I remember.

[Plinko]

Yeah, Molly Brown.

[James Cameron]

She's unsinkable, that's for sure. She is amazing. And then I heard that there's a show coming out this summer that you can start getting excited about now.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, okay. Are you worried people will get really excited, and then just forget about it for months and months and months.

[James Cameron]

Well, I guess you're gonna have to keep talking about it amongst yourselves until sometime this summer.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's never too early to promote something.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Thank you. I can't wait for number 10.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah. So what. What should. I mean, we should say, what's twisted metal? Twisted metal.

[James Cameron]

Twisted metal.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Twist the metal.

[Jake Sully]

Now, is that an avatar? Do we know I mean, metal?

[Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, there's metal.

[James Cameron]

The ships, water things are twisting around relationships and plots and Best way to.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Twist metal is make it water, heat.

[Jake Sully]

It up, make it liquid almost.

[Plinko]

Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Alchemize something. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then also I heard there's like this really fun show at the ground lanes that is happening every Friday and Saturday night.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[James Cameron]

Call it Kissing Booth.

[Jake Sully]

All right, People can go see that. All right, James Cameron and Jake Sully, what do you have to plug?

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, obviously, this December 19th, Avatar, fire and ash.

[Plinko]

You can't miss it.

[Scott Aukerman]

And then on December 21st. Now, I know that sounds like just a few days.

[James Cameron]

Is this 2026?

[Scott Aukerman]

No, 2025.

[James Cameron]

Okay.

[Plinko]

Fire reaction.

[Scott Aukerman]

On December 19th, fire and ash is coming out.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Okay.

[Jake Sully]

And then two days later.

[Scott Aukerman]

Well, no, it seems like it might be because 19th to December 21st, but 2029, Avatar 4 will be coming out and then back on December 19th. But two years after that, December 19th, 2031, Avatar 5 will be out.

[Jake Sully]

Right. And those. Those are the only five that have release dates at this point. But the. The rest of them will be coming out.

[Scott Aukerman]

No, they all have release dates. I didn't think you wanted me to regale. Okay, so on December. Yeah, 2032, Avatar 6 will be coming out.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Scott Aukerman]

On December 19, 20.

[Jake Sully]

Is it always 21st or 19th?

[Scott Aukerman]

No, no. The Way of Water came out on the 16th, and the original Avatar came out on the 18th.

[Plinko]

We like December.

[Scott Aukerman]

It's on December. December 22nd of 2034, Avatar 8 is coming out.

[Jake Sully]

Are you still going to be alive at this point?

[Scott Aukerman]

And then a year after December 19th. December. That's when Avatar 7 is coming out. We were going to release eight first. Before we release before seven.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Plinko]

I want to remind you that you asked for this, Scott. The plug was over and you tried.

[Scott Aukerman]

I was going to plug three and they were like, is that all you have?

[Plinko]

We got more.

[Jake Sully]

James. I will remind you, you had to go at a certain point.

[Plinko]

I have something I'd like to plug.

[Jake Sully]

Yes. No, you have to stay here. You're the one talking so much.

[Scott Aukerman]

I'm not saying anything.

[Jake Sully]

All Right, Jake? What did. What did you want to.

[Plinko]

Well, I love movies, of course. I'm a big movie star.

[Jake Sully]

Sure.

[Plinko]

And I want to support the culture. I mean, world's biggest movie star in history. There's a movie podcast I love. And more than the show itself, I love its fan base online. I love getting in there on the Reddit.

[Jake Sully]

You must be talking about Scott Hedgehog Seen. Because they have a great fan base.

[Plinko]

Blank check, actually.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Oh, no.

[Jake Sully]

Notoriously.

[James Cameron]

Dueling podcast.

[Plinko]

I don't think so. I feel like.

[Jake Sully]

I don't think they were envisioned as dueling podcasts, but then they became them.

[Plinko]

It feels like the people who host them are friends with each other and yet the fans of each dislike the other fans. Correct.

[Jake Sully]

And other hosts.

[Plinko]

And the other hosts. Yes. I just want peace in 2023.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

There was an eternal truce settled between all white guys with movie podcast.

[Plinko]

Absolutely. I also, you know, the Avatar movies get the biggest releases in the world.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

World.

[Plinko]

Giant blockbusters everyone knows about. Want to shout out a movie that seems to be on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum? There's a movie I saw called Turn Me on that ostensibly went straight to vod, and it's from what I've heard the actors in it only found out it had been released two days after it had been released.

[Jake Sully]

Oh, no.

[Plinko]

And are now sort of trying to do catch up.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Plinko]

On marketing. But it's like a dystopian sci fi satire.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Plinko]

Yes.

[Jake Sully]

I mean, it sounds bel Powley.

[Plinko]

Nick Robbins.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Plinko]

Darcy Carden.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Plinko]

Patty Harrison. Some named Griffin Newman.

[Jake Sully]

Okay. And this is on vod.

[Plinko]

It's wherever people watch.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

What's it called again?

[Plinko]

Turn Me On.

[James Cameron]

I can't wait to watch it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

And it's got Griffin Newman in it.

[Plinko]

It does. Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Turn it off, please.

[Scott Aukerman]

God. I'll also plug the Tiny Dinos podcast.

[Jake Sully]

Okay.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Sure.

[Jake Sully]

Yeah.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

This is great.

[Scott Aukerman]

That's it.

[James Cameron]

Wait, can I do one more movie quote?

[Jake Sully]

Of course. Yeah.

[James Cameron]

Okay. Oh, hian. You're so huge.

[Scott Aukerman]

Huge.

[Plinko]

Oh, yawn.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

You're so.

[James Cameron]

Oh, yeah. You're so huge. You're gonna like this, James.

[Scott Aukerman]

Is that from Avatar?

[Plinko]

No, but he's gonna like it. Is it wet?

[James Cameron]

Wait, maybe you won't like it. It's from a movie called Breaking Away.

[Jake Sully]

I thought it was with Paul Dooley.

[James Cameron]

I think so.

[Plinko]

The bicycling movie with.

[James Cameron]

Oh, no. Breaking waves.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Breaking waves.

[Jake Sully]

Breaking.

[Scott Aukerman]

I like it. I like it.

[James Cameron]

That's why you like I like it.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Well, I have a movie quote. Here's my.

[Jake Sully]

This is my last thing we're still in plugs, by the way.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

I know this is. But this is a. This is a backdoor plug. This is the movie Quotes even to name the movie. That's not how you say that's not a knife. This is how you say this is a knife.

[Plinko]

Crocodile Dundy in Los Angeles.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Very, very close.

[James Cameron]

Crocodile Dundee.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

It's actually the title of my new book. Book that I just had an idea.

[Plinko]

Wow.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

How you say that's not a knife? This is how you say this is a knife.

[James Cameron]

A breakthrough.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

A memoir of a man learning an Australian accent.

[Plinko]

James is getting all right.

[Jake Sully]

We got to close.

[Plinko]

He wants to stay here for hours.

[Jake Sully]

I don't have anything to play.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

That is all. That is all that.

[Jake Sully]

I got to close up the old plug back. Here we go.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

Open up the plug.

[Jake Sully]

20, 25. Open up the plug bank.

[John Hodgman]

Then you are alive. Open it up and make your dream come true.

[Jake Sully]

Open it up and let yourself be true.

[John Hodgman]

You got to open up and see all the floods because it's not time.

[Jake Sully]

To close it up.

[Plinko]

Up just yet.

[John Hodgman]

Open the blood bag with me, dude. Open the blood bag with me, dude. Please don't close it and be rude.

[Jake Sully]

Please don't close it. All right, that was quite good. Let's open this bag by Barnacle Joe. Thanks, Barnacle Joe. If you want to upload a plug theme, go over to cbb world.com plugs and you can do it. Also, while you're at CBB World, get the Randy and Karissa action. Fig, I didn't get a chance to put that in plugs, but guys, we're out of time. I want to thank you so much, John. Wonderful to have you so nice. And Kitty, Kitty, unfortunately, I erased your.

[James Cameron]

Name here on cjoy.

[Plinko]

Cjoy Sage Se.

[Jake Sully]

So wonderful to meet you. Good luck. And I'd love to meet Plinko at some time.

[James Cameron]

I'll bring him by.

[Jake Sully]

Bring him by. I would love that. And then James Cameron and Jake Sully.

[Scott Aukerman]

Always glad. We'll always come back. We love the show.

[Jake Sully]

That's so what any. And guys, I. To be honest, I'm a huge fan.

[James Cameron]

Here we go.

[Scott Aukerman]

We know King of the World.

[Jake Sully]

King of the world. Love the Avatar movies.

[Plinko]

Yeah, you do.

[Scott Aukerman]

You know what I mean? I get it. I'm one of the guys who gets. I get when you joke.

[Jake Sully]

I love that. I love that you get it.

[Scott Aukerman]

I love that I get it.

[Plinko]

Notoriously good sense of humor on this guy.

[Jake Sully]

All right, we'll see you next time. Thanks.

[Scott Aukerman]

Bye.

[Jake Sully]

That is all.

[Kitty Cjoy Sage]

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