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Today I talk to Dr. Alexander Reid Ross from Portland State University. He writes and hosts the excellent Years of Lead Podcast, examining Italy’s turbulent Cold War years and the murky, covert forces in the background. We also discuss two filmmakers who have made interesting movies relating to Italy’s Years of Lead- Alan Francovitch and Pier Paolo Pasolini.The Years of Lead Podcast:https://open.spotify.com/show/7z53cv4hO0JhU3wkHLh5ot?si=2169712bdbb645e6‘Stay-behind networks and interim flexible strategy: the 'Gladio' case and US covert intervention in Italy in the Cold War’. Francesco A. Cacciatore. Intelligence and National Security, Vol. 36, Issue 5:https://doi.org/10.1080/02684527.2021.1911436

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