
Actress, comedian, and writer Ayo Edebiri feels optimistic about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Ayo sits down with Conan to discuss being awarded her very own day in the city of Boston, how her parents set her up for a career trajectory in writing and performance, expressing her unique physical comedy, and going from co-star to directing an episode of The Bear’s third season. Later, Conan tests his mettle by attempting to distinguish the members of his team from one another. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847.
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IO Adebiri
Hi, my name is Iowa Debris and I feel optimistic. Hopefully not a misguided optimism about being Conan o' Brien's friend. Fall is here Hear the yell Back to school Ring the bell Brand new shoes Walking loose Climb the fence Books and pens I can tell little we.
Conan O'Brien
Are gonna be friends I can tell.
IO Adebiri
That we are gonna be friends.
Conan O'Brien
Hello there and welcome aboard the good ship. Conan o' Brien needs a friend. I'm the captain. Conan, of course. There's the cruise director. Son of session. Oh, hell yeah.
IO Adebiri
I'd be a great cruise director.
Conan O'Brien
And working down there in the engine room covered in grease. Matt Gourley. Yeah. Never. You never get to come topside. No.
Matt Gourley
I thought you were gonna call me Gopher.
Conan O'Brien
No. Oh, God, no. Around the. Around the other passengers. No, no. You're down. You are covered in grease. You're hard of hearing because of the giant turbines turning all the time. You're rarely allowed out. In fact, when the ship is sinking, you're not Even told it's sinking. Listen, you know I love you, man. Do I? I don't think.
Matt Gourley
You know, it's never been a single sign that you love me. So I don't know.
Conan O'Brien
Not based on my behavior towards you. Certainly.
Matt Gourley
Certainly not what other people say. No facts, no evidence.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Matt Gourley
I think you hate me, sir.
Conan O'Brien
I do not hate you.
Matt Gourley
You just don't like me.
Conan O'Brien
No, I think it's. Oh, God, what's the word? There's indifference.
Matt Gourley
Oh, that's almost worse.
Conan O'Brien
Leaning towards rage. That's worse.
Matt Gourley
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Rage Different. Rage, different. I don't have a word for it. But listen. No, I. Of course I respect you. I think you do a great job. I can't look you in the eye when I'm lying. No.
Matt Gourley
And it's just. Respect is a begrudging.
Conan O'Brien
It's a begrudging respect. That's true. I just want to make sure, because we're recording this a little ahead of time, and, you know, one of the things we don't do is we're not very topical on this podcast. But now I've got it in my head today, because I don't think this is going to drop for a while. We really can't be topical. Right. You know what I mean? So I don't want anyone saying, well, you know, next week is that big national holiday or, hey, in two days.
Matt Gourley
But we do know when this is coming out.
IO Adebiri
I know.
Matt Gourley
Say things like, 4th of July is just around the corner. I know you still don't understand how.
Conan O'Brien
I still understand how this works. I see. I'm suspicious of that. What if we say that and then for some reason this gets bumped, you know, because some huge figure says, I'll do the podcast, but it has to air on that day, and we go, huh? We've already got this all set for someone else, and it has to move. Well, what if they're Fourth of July? Wow. Fourth of July.
Matt Gourley
You never know.
Conan O'Brien
People look out the window and it's snowing, but it's still 4th of July and they live in Antarctica. Oh, you see the twist I put at the end?
IO Adebiri
What are you saying? That we don't have big names right now? And if we have one, everyone gets.
Conan O'Brien
These are big names. I'm talking about the new pope from Chicago.
IO Adebiri
He's not coming on this stupid podcast.
Conan O'Brien
My cell phone. I'm just saying, what if my cell phone rings and I pick it up and I go, hey, cone in there. And I go, hello? And he goes, it's a new Pope. And I go, wow. Oh, my God. It's incredible. Congratulations. Yeah, I'm thinking I, you know, I used to be down in Chicago, and on Diversey, I'd be driving down Diversey, and I'd be like, you know, I don't like. I like White Sox. I'm not a Cubs guy anyhow. And I'd be getting my sausage. And I was thinking, I like this Conan podcast. I'll do it someday if I become pope. Probably a 50, 50 chance. That's a good Chicago. Yeah. And then he, you know. And you know, again, now we are getting topical. But if he wanted to do the podcast, that would bump anybody.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And also, I would want to ask him, did you use some of your Chicago ways to influence the Conclave?
IO Adebiri
What are you saying?
Conan O'Brien
I mean, when you bring a knife.
Matt Gourley
You bring a gun kind of thing. They bring black smoke, you bring white smoke.
Conan O'Brien
He was in there just going like, oh, really? You're going to vote for that guy? Eh? Yeah. Oh, that guy from Portugal, maybe at.
Matt Gourley
The conclave, he was walking around behind them with a baseball bat.
Conan O'Brien
I don't. I see. You're going very cartoonish and very big.
Matt Gourley
I apologize.
Conan O'Brien
No, no, you shouldn't apolog. Begrudgingly respect you.
Matt Gourley
Yeah, I forgot this was a sober and serious podcast.
Conan O'Brien
I think it's more like, hey, you want it? You wanted. Remember when you wanted to help moving that couch? You know, you had that place over on Sheffield. Remember when you had that place on Sheffield? Who helped you move the couch?
IO Adebiri
Wait, you're saying Matt's cartoony.
Conan O'Brien
Uhhuh. My Pope.
IO Adebiri
Whatever this is.
Conan O'Brien
My Pope did a lot. My Pope, he did a lot of favors for people.
Matt Gourley
And also your pope is Dennis Farina.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, yeah.
Conan O'Brien
He's kind like. He did a lot of favors for people, and also he knows the cops. He'll take care of that ticket for you. Yeah, but they weren't Rome. What's that?
IO Adebiri
They weren't even in Chicago. Why is he bringing up sofas? He moved for people.
Conan O'Brien
Because he was always playing the game. He was always saying, like, hey, you from where you. Yeah. Yeah. Where from? Yeah, from Thailand. Eh? Yeah. Hey, you moving out of that place? Yes, I'm moving out of that. Oh, yeah. I can help you out. Couch. I get some guys that can move it for you. You don't have to hire anybody.
Matt Gourley
You see, is it like he's. It's like he's controlling the altar boy union or, you know, he's just got.
Conan O'Brien
His fingers in every pie? That inst.
Matt Gourley
Sense fell off the Back of a truck.
Conan O'Brien
Exactly. Exactly.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
That just fell out of back of a truck. Hey, don't be asking a lot of questions. Yeah. You know, and he becomes Pope because he's just working it.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Anyway, my original point is, if my cell phone rings and I hear, hey, I asked a buddy of a buddy of a buddy, and he says, I got Conan's number. Is this your number there, Conan? And I'm like, yeah, this is my number. Hey, you know, I'd like to come on that badcast there. That'd be great. Come on that. Come on that podcast, you know, and we could get some. Some sausage, and we could close down a couple of streets for maybe a blues fest, and then we could have that, you know, anyway. And then I'd be like, shit, we gotta bump the guest today so that we can have that Pope on. You know what I mean?
IO Adebiri
I'm glad you didn't stay topical.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Because that's. That was really important.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, these popes don't change too fast. This guy's gonna be around a long time.
IO Adebiri
I know, but he's not gonna be the new Pope.
Conan O'Brien
And when this airs, it's still a big deal.
IO Adebiri
Is it?
Conan O'Brien
Eduardo's nodding his head.
IO Adebiri
He's still.
Conan O'Brien
Even when this comes out. Oh, you think in June, the fact that there's a pope from the south side of Chicago is going to be an old story. This is big news.
IO Adebiri
Is it that big?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, it's huge. I already knew for at least a year. How old? How old is it?
Matt Gourley
It's like a honeymoon. Like a newlywed. You're a newlywed for a year, you're.
Conan O'Brien
A new pope for he's gonna be a new pope. And also the fact that he's from the south side of Chicago, when he came out on a balcony, he was wearing a White Sox uniform.
Matt Gourley
What happens if we have Jude Law on who was in a show called the New Pope, and then we have to bump him for the new Pope?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. What do you fuck? What do you fucking got? This. This goerli working for you? You know, you got a good role, and this guy brings up Jew. What the fuck is a Jude la? What the hell is that all about? How is he helping you? It's a deep dish Pope. Yeah. Oh, and who the fuck is that Blade guy? Making jokes other people have already made on the Internet? What the fuck? You're trying to do original material, and you got these two weights around your neck.
Matt Gourley
Are you the Pope saying, what the fuck?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Okay. This is very. You're Bored. It's borderline Andrew Dice Clay Pope. Yeah, yeah, exact. And by the way, he did some good work. A lot of good work. I entered this clay. I have a lot. And he's also, he has matured into a very fine actor. He's been, he's worked with Scorsese a lot. So I'm not going to have him put down on my watch.
IO Adebiri
Okay?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I love. Yes. Did you know that that's not. Yes. That's not a put down. I think it's. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, the problem here. And Blay, when did you see anything in this conversation that made you think I better get in there and help. I better jump in and save the day. Welcome.
Matt Gourley
You're welcome here, Blay.
Conan O'Brien
I better jump in and save the day. This is a very anti pop sentiment coming from you, isn't it? Must be welcoming everyone in. Do you, Eduardo, did you think this was anti Pope? I love this Pope. No, it's not. What do you mean? I think you. I think the Pope is very welcoming everyone in. You're being. Being very anti pope right now. How? How?
IO Adebiri
Because you're welcome his way into Popehood.
Conan O'Brien
Wait a minute, you think that me applying that this Pope used all of his Chicago muscle to get the popehood meant that and yeah, it's called the Pope. That's what he's saying.
Matt Gourley
He's saying you're Conan, you role playing as the Pope. You're being very Pope by not welcoming anybody into this conversation.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, oh, that's just. Oh, that.
IO Adebiri
I thought you were just shitting on the Pope.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And listen, you know, I apologize and I think it takes a big man to apologize. I apologize to you, Matt, for ever questioning your addition to this conversation. And Blay, when you jumped in, you know, and said that he's the deep dish Pope. I don't think anyone said that yet that. Big, big congrats to you and thank you both. So let's get into it.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, he lived in Peru for like 20 years, right?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, but you know, was he really there as much as he said he was? Yes, I think he was leaving a lot on weekends to go to the White Sox games, you know, and check out the Blues Fest.
IO Adebiri
So the accent is still so thick for just having lived in Peru for 20 years, but. Okay.
Conan O'Brien
Was he really there the whole 20 years?
IO Adebiri
I think he was, yeah. I think it's okay.
Conan O'Brien
Let's check those plane records. I think he's Bopping back and forth. He's like, yeah, I gotta go to o'. Hare. I gotta get to o'. Hare. And then I gotta take diversity to Sheffield, and then I gotta see the Bluesfest and get some sausage and I'll get back to Peru. Quit your. I don't know. I guess I'm going to hell. Or maybe I'm in hell now. Maybe this is hell. My guest today is a hilarious writer, actor, director, and comedian who stars in the hit Hulu series the Bear. Hey, to. And guess what. Let me tell you something. She's a huge star. And so when you said, hey, are you implying we don't get big stars? We get all the. We get the biggest of the best.
Matt Gourley
Takes place in Chicago.
IO Adebiri
That's what I was saying. That's why I said, hey, because the Bear takes place in Chicago.
Conan O'Brien
Chicago. I'm excited she's here today. IO. Adebri. Welcome. You came in and I got to admit, I'm a little high energy today. And also, you're one of those people where I start doing bits right away.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
We ran into each other at. I don't know if it was an Oscar thing or whatever. You and I were somewhere. I hadn't. I don't think we had really formally met each other, and both of us doing bits right away, like idiots.
IO Adebiri
Foul. Foul behavior in public.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. But then you did me this great kindness, which is my children. And this is to their credit, they're not having the whole Conan o' Brien shtick. Never have. Never been into it. You made a quick video for my daughter, who adores you, and you made a video where you basically said, no, no, your dad's okay.
IO Adebiri
That's true.
Conan O'Brien
And I sent that to my daughter, and it got me, like, 24 hours of solid street gun.
Matt Gourley
It didn't look like she was in, like, a hostage situation.
Conan O'Brien
She did.
IO Adebiri
Yeah. Because I had. I had my gun up to my head. Anyway, so I brought my gun.
Conan O'Brien
She did it all herself. She held herself hostage while she made me a hostage video.
IO Adebiri
Well, I always carry on a gun in a newspaper. A lady must.
Conan O'Brien
Lady must.
IO Adebiri
But that wasn't the. Well, that was the first time that we met. But do you remember the first time we should have met?
Conan O'Brien
We should have met when I saw you way across the street. Or I thought I saw you, but I wasn't sure it was you. And I was with my real assistant, the one who actually does things for me. David Hopping. Come on. You phoning it.
IO Adebiri
I trained him.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, you trained him. I trained him. If you trained him, he wouldn't be doing shit.
IO Adebiri
But anyway, this is a drag. This is like a. I like. I was gonna say a dragger, but that doesn't make sense. But I just like the idea every. Let's all drag each other. Okay.
Conan O'Brien
I'm down with that show. Welcome to. Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Just you.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Yeah.
Matt Gourley
Wait.
Conan O'Brien
That'S terrible. Yeah, that's not. That's terrible. You made IO cry. People love her. What was that all about? Sona.
IO Adebiri
All of you.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, that's how I drag.
IO Adebiri
I'm not good at it.
Conan O'Brien
No, what happened was I was with David, and we were trying to figure out. There's a group of people across a wide street, and we're looking and we're thinking, is that IO? And we weren't sure. And then I thought, should I cross the street and say, hi, are you IO? And then I thought, no, don't do that. I don't need. I didn't know what to do, so I didn't do it. And I didn't realize that you guys.
IO Adebiri
So it was me, Lionel Boyce, who's also on Bear With Me, and then Tyler, the creator, and then one of our other friends. So it's like we're like four black people on Launch Mart, basically. And then we're like, why is this. Like, there's this white guy across the street who's really tall and he's walking kind of weird.
Conan O'Brien
And then I have a limp.
IO Adebiri
And I was like, well, that's. Well, that's like, that's Shirley. Conan o'. Brien. Like, look at his head. And we were.
Conan O'Brien
Don't look at his head.
IO Adebiri
And then Lionel was like, don't be racist. Like, you can't just say, like, a tall white guy and be like, that's Conan. And he was like. And Conan wouldn't walk like that also. But then, like, now that I'm also thinking about you looking at this group of, like, four black people being like, well, surely I can't cross the street and just be like, are you. Are you the famous one Thing. And then. And then also we were like, oh, that's. Well, he was kind of walking funny because he kept kind of looking back. But we were in this, like, weird Mexican standoff of, like, recognition.
Conan O'Brien
Also, you guys were kind of partway behind a tree.
IO Adebiri
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
And so I see.
IO Adebiri
We were hiding.
Conan O'Brien
I see. Yeah. And, you know, I. And so I. I said to David, and he was like, I'm not sure. And then. I mean, David is welcome to come in at any point and straighten out this mix up. He might be off doing some real running some real errands, but he's coming. Okay, well, I'm sorry. I trained him.
IO Adebiri
I taught him everything.
Conan O'Brien
You didn't teach him anything. But we were trying to figure it out. David wasn't sure. We weren't sure. And then we got upstairs and I was like, I'm telling you, I'm sure. That was IO And I wish I had gone across the street and said something.
Matt Gourley
Is this the first time you guys have confirmed this and talked about this?
IO Adebiri
We talked about it about it at.
Conan O'Brien
This Oscars party or something.
IO Adebiri
Or SNL maybe or something.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Okay, David, here, David, you can take my mic. You can take this mic right here. Take someone's mic.
IO Adebiri
And, David, your disposition has been called out as Sonny before. Yes. That's nice.
Conan O'Brien
I think so. I don't know.
IO Adebiri
Amazing. Amazing.
Conan O'Brien
This is him. And by the way, this is David. In a terrible mood.
IO Adebiri
I know.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Hello. How are you? Yeah, I heard. We're all yelling at each other, so. So, David, confirm what happened. You weren't sure it was I.O. i wasn't sure it was I.O. yeah. And you were about to, like, yell.
Matt Gourley
Across the street, and I was like, you can't just yell Conan Y.
Conan O'Brien
And there was a fear of, what if I'm wrong? And then I'm that guy who's just, like, misidentifying black people, a black person. And I didn't want to do that. No, you can't even say that anymore.
IO Adebiri
So true.
Conan O'Brien
But I didn't want to be that person.
IO Adebiri
But then also we were like, well, we can't just be, like, accosting tall white people and being like, are you. Like, are you one of the most famously tall white men of all time? So. But then I felt like we were just kind of, like, getting close and farther away at the same time.
Conan O'Brien
It was the perfect. It's a two lane, there's traffic going two ways. So it's not a narrow street.
IO Adebiri
It wouldn't have worked even under better circumstances. Like, too much was going on.
Conan O'Brien
I know, but, you know, we're here.
IO Adebiri
We are here now.
Conan O'Brien
We're together. I'm so happy you're on the show. We have a lot to talk about. Because you were raised in Dorchester.
IO Adebiri
Yes, sir.
Conan O'Brien
In Boston. And I, of course, come from the nasty side of town in Brookline, Mass.
IO Adebiri
Dirty dog.
Conan O'Brien
Dirty dog. And you have been honored. I think you got what. This is a real honor.
IO Adebiri
It is. It's, like, messed up.
Conan O'Brien
Wasn't there an I.O. day in Boston where? All of Boston. On April 10th, the Mayor of Boston honored I.O. by declaring 4-10-IO a debris day in the city of Boston. Excuse me, has there been a Conan o' Brien in Boston? Quick answer.
IO Adebiri
Wait, you don't have.
Conan O'Brien
No.
IO Adebiri
Wait, you don't have a day.
Conan O'Brien
I never had a day. Never. Oh, and what they're going to do is say you have St. Patrick's Day. Oh.
IO Adebiri
Because you're Irish.
Conan O'Brien
Very good, Sona.
IO Adebiri
Very nice. Very nice. You know what?
Conan O'Brien
You've gotten better. Hey, you're getting better at that too. No, I've never had a day and I.
IO Adebiri
That's actually shocking to me. But you've been like, hasty put. No, wait, Hasty's just women.
Conan O'Brien
No, Hasty putting his guys and used to dress up as ladies, but now it's men and women. Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Wait, what the heck? What's going on?
Conan O'Brien
What do you mean? I don't know.
IO Adebiri
I just feel like I thought you should get. Let's fix that.
Conan O'Brien
I don't know. What do you do? Did you go to Boston on your day?
IO Adebiri
Okay, I. Okay. I'm grateful for the day. I'm grateful for the day. I had no idea that it was happening. If I knew that it was happening, I'm the type of person where I would have not gone. Cause it just. That sort of thing just makes me so anxious. And so they were just like, oh, come to your high school. And I was like, cool, I'll just, like, talk to the improv and kids. And then they were like, actually, you're gonna be talking to kids in the auditorium, which is like my nightmare. Like, I was training to be a teacher and I quit because high school children are so scary with their eyes. And then also, like, the school that I went to is a public school, but it's like, it's for smart kids. Like, you have to take a test to get in. Like, it's that whole vibe. And every student there is, like, gonna become like a doctor of, like, atoms or something.
Conan O'Brien
I don't know. Doctor of Adams. Uh huh. Okay.
IO Adebiri
Okay. I literally was, like, stupid for my school. Like, I was like, yeah, be like a teacher and go do some, like, improv at night. And everybody was like, good luck, kid. Like, you are a wastrel. And yeah, ultimately, but you got a day. I got a day.
Conan O'Brien
But you. Did you go to your school for your day?
IO Adebiri
I did go to my school because I thought I was going to just talk to the improv kids, and then I ended up talking to the mayor, and then the mayor was like, I Have a surprise for you. And in the clip, which I have watched, like, I think I look upset, but it's just because I'm, like, dissociating to survive. Because I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. And I also know that my mom's going to be so annoyed because she's going to be like, you never tell anybody when you're getting a day. And it's like, well, because I didn't know I was getting a day. Yeah, you never tell anyone. You're like, you've gotten lots of days. No, that's just like. That's the voice of my mother in my head. That's. She's that type of.
Conan O'Brien
She's like, again, you get a day. I don't get it.
Matt Gourley
By the way, Sona and I both have Boston days, too.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
This is always. They're always. And they're not even from there. Hand to mouth. You get them at the airport, personal. As you get off the plane, they hand you a day.
IO Adebiri
If you go to the Logan Duncan, I think that's.
Conan O'Brien
You are on record for saying you think the Dunkin Donuts is better in Boston. You can taste the difference.
IO Adebiri
I do. Why do you know that? I know a lot of things, Pen, your research.
Conan O'Brien
I know everything about you.
IO Adebiri
What am I thinking right now? Three, two, one.
Conan O'Brien
I'm paler than you thought.
IO Adebiri
Oh, ultimately, yeah, probably. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
You can actually see the veins in my face, and it's freaking you out. I'm like.
IO Adebiri
I can see, like, the back of your ear through your cheeks. What the.
Conan O'Brien
You're looking at me like that model of the visible woman.
IO Adebiri
Is it one tall man or two little. Two smaller men.
Conan O'Brien
We have things in common. We both grew up in Boston.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
We clearly both like to riff and screw around constantly and be silly. You grew up with anxiety. I think, like a lot of people that get into comedy, I had anxiety, too. Yeah, you did pretty cool. Yeah, you did pretty cool. Talk to your therapist. Your therapist is here.
IO Adebiri
I shouldn't have put you under my, like, my HIPAA exemption. I knew I shouldn't have done that.
Conan O'Brien
But I love that you. You're very smart, and you have very serious parents who were. They must have seen this comedy thing coming with you. They didn't see it coming.
IO Adebiri
Oh, well, I think it just like, they didn't.
Conan O'Brien
Can I just say something? Can I say something? I leaned out of camera. Okay. Can I say something, though? I noticed it, too. You reached for that tissue like Liberace or a magician. You reached, like, this I mean, if we have footage of it and then you plucked it up and you did this big turn. I am in the middle of talking.
IO Adebiri
Sleeve hit the mic too. Were you?
Conan O'Brien
I thought a white dove was going to come out of your jacket. I'm so sorry.
IO Adebiri
It's like Penn and Teller doing as.
Conan O'Brien
I'm so sorry.
Matt Gourley
I was gonna sneeze and I just thought it was a. Oh, my God.
IO Adebiri
Surely nothing will happen.
Conan O'Brien
I'm here to visit the king of France.
IO Adebiri
But first. Oh, Jesus.
Conan O'Brien
I love that you didn't let that go.
IO Adebiri
You are addicted to prop work.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, my God. Get him, get him, get him, get him.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, I was listening to an episode in the car. Not gonna lie.
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Conan O'Brien
You know, like a Conan bit. Sonic takes the pickle too far with their big dill meal. I wonder what they're saying. What are they saying here? That's an insult to me. I don't take things too far. Oh my God, Sonic, I've got a beef with you. And a very delicious beef. First you get the Smasher topped with Grillo's pickles. Then there's pickle seasoned tots. And they're pickling further than anyone before with the. The Picklerita slush. When I have a slush, I want pickles in there. Full of pickle flavored bursting bubbles. Topped with a Grillo's pickle garnish. This must be the edge of the known pickle verse. Oh, whoever came up with that needs a beating. To which Sonic says, no, you don't understand. This is just the beginning. You think a pickle burger, pickle tots and a pickle slush is a lot of pickle hubris. We'll pickle everything. That's their logo. Well, the Sonic and Grillos big deal meal. It's the Conan bit. Oh my God, they're going after me. Hard of burger pickle meals. Um, your parents.
IO Adebiri
My serious parents.
Conan O'Brien
Your parents, they're serious people. You grew up in a Pentecostal?
IO Adebiri
Pentecostal, yeah. Yeah. But my dad wasn't really that Christian. Which also is funny because I. I was like. I have these like, memories of like going down to his own office, which also. It's like, hey, man, if you're a dad and you got a home office, whatever. Anyway. But then I'd go to his home office and then I would be like, hey, like, it just would be really cool if you came to church. Just because, like, if the rapture happens, me and mom are good. You know what I mean? And you're gonna be like in hell. And he. But he, to his credit, would just be like. I mean, like, maybe girl. Like, he'd be like, I don't think so. But thank you. Thanks. Thanks, sweetie.
Conan O'Brien
I know how to get. I'll take the off ramp. I'll get there.
IO Adebiri
Thanks, sweetie. Yeah, so I was like, low key, more religious than my parents at one point. But yeah, I think that all that kind of. That was how my anxiety manifested. I had to be very prepared for my future or I kind of would care about things even more than my parents did. Cause I was just projecting my own sort of fears about disappointing them or whatever. And so, like, I think I would just be like, and I'm gonna be like a doctor, of course. And they'd be like, cool, you're gonna be a doctor. And then my sophomore year of college, when I changed my major, I was like, well, also then I was like, okay, so I might not be a doctor. I might be a teacher. And they were like, okay, sure, yeah. And so then, you know, I was like, I'm not gonna be a teacher. I actually wanna study art. And they were like, yeah, girl. Like, you know, we've been raising you in our house, right? Like, every single thing that you've done or you care about is, like, related to comedy or the arts or whatever. Like, my mom would get really mad at me because I would delete episodes of Oprah because I was TiVoing your show. And, like, 30 Rock. And, like, I was like. I was just, like, inhaling all that stuff.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
And so they were like, yeah, duh. Like, okay. But it was. It was also very. Like, my dad was like. Like, I mean, we can't help you. Like, just as a heads up, like, we don't have any connections. We don't have any, like, resources. So, like, if you want to do it, just, you have to be prepared.
Conan O'Brien
It's weird because your dad and I were very tight. And I kept saying, I will help IO, and he was like, how could you help her in comedy? And I went, okay. This was back in the 2000s, early 2000s.
IO Adebiri
He's a tough guy in that way. He's a tough guy in that way.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I'd say. You're sure I can't help her get started in comedy? I'll be fine. What could you do for her anyway? I didn't know who I was.
IO Adebiri
Kind of know. Brady. Yeah. But then also, like, it's been cool, like, with them. I feel like I've been learning more about them since I've been whatever enough to pursue this. And, like, my dad actually went to Emerson, and his dad made him drop out. Cause his dad was like, you're the oldest. And, like, we need to get all these other siblings from Nigeria over here. So you need to get, like, a real degree in something that, like, means that you can be, like, you know, stable enough to support this family. And then you went to law school after. But my dad loves movies. Like, he wanted to make movies.
Conan O'Brien
Wow.
IO Adebiri
Now he just comes with me to award shows.
Conan O'Brien
They must be through the roof. Happy for you.
IO Adebiri
I think so.
Conan O'Brien
That's a nice thing. It's interesting. So when you told them, okay, I'm gonna take this shot at writing comedy.
IO Adebiri
We were straight up in an IHOP in Randolph. Cause I Also was like, we can't do this on home turf. Like, we have to go to Randolph. And we. I literally was like, I'll meet you guys at the ihop. Mind you, I. I didn't get my license until I was, like, 24 years old. So I'm like, they're driving me to the ihop and.
Conan O'Brien
Or you took a horse.
IO Adebiri
And. And so then we're there, and I'm, like, not talking to them in the car, and they're like. Like, they're like, are you. Like. Is like, are you dying or, like, what's going on? Then I just started bust. Like, I burst out crying, and I was like, I'm so sorry. Like, I changed my major without telling you. I'm gonna study playwriting. Like, I want to pursue the arts. And literally, they're like, like, eating, like, a short stack. Like, could not. Could not care. My dad was like, extra hash browns. Like, let's go. Yeah. They were so, like, supportive.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. I remember very clearly telling my parents on the phone that, okay, I'm graduating. I've worked really hard to get into this good college. I'm going to graduate. I wrote a thesis. I'm a good student. I want to get into comedy. And I remember their attitude was very much like, which one are you again?
IO Adebiri
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
We got. Got six. Just, you know, they were. And then the minute I could pay my own rent, which was really quickly, the minute I was, like, out there and established and paying my own rent there, they didn't care if I was in pornography. I was just, you know. Which I. I was okay at that, too.
Matt Gourley
You did that?
Conan O'Brien
I dabbled.
IO Adebiri
Okay. Fake fans. Real ones now.
Conan O'Brien
Anyway.
IO Adebiri
I think also my parents were like, yeah. Like, are you good with money? Like, you're not going to be asking us to, like, buy tickets to the Yuck Yuck Center. Right? Like, then as long as you don't need that. As we all know, comedy. Comedy folks, us getting extra tickets to the Yuck Yuck center, it's a big thing. Everyone. Everyone has to pay their dues. But, yeah, like, they were like, if you're. If you're good, then we're good. And I feel like the moment that they could also kind of start to brag, like.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Which is like, even when I was, like, a writer's assistant. But they were just like, oh, my God, like, your name is gonna be in the credits of something.
Conan O'Brien
Well, you had a. I'm impressed with this. You had a plan, which was, get yourself in a writer's room. As a writer's assistant. And you gave yourself time to do that?
IO Adebiri
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Yes, that was a very smart. I mean, I look at it now, and I think, yes, that was a very smart way to go about it.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
What was the plan specifically? Get into a writer's room?
IO Adebiri
Plan was, I still have my education degree, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna give myself basically two years to be able to pay my rent. And if I don't, then I'll go back and I'll get my master's, and then I'll just. Just get my teaching certificate for the state of New York. But I'll at least be happy that I tried. I think that's like, I try to make, I don't know, a plan that, like, I'll be happy with whatever the result is. Like, genuinely, like, failure is not an option. So whatever's gonna happen, I have to be happy with it and also be able to pay my rent. Great. And so that was that plan. And then I ended up. While I was still in school, I got PA jobs through a friend of a friend who was working at Jax. They were doing, like, Broad City and Inside Amy Schumer and Sam B. At the time. And then I think I just kind of a reputation for, like, being very hardworking. And then I got assisting job at this show called the Rundown with Robin Dede that was on BET for a season. And that's when I got my first writer's assistant job. And I just basically was, like, talking to every single writer's assistant I knew. And I was like, okay, like, what's, like, the average timeline for being a writer's assistant to, like, getting an actual TV job? Like, what does that look like? And what do I have to do to do that? And so then I was like, okay, I think I can give myself, like, three to four years of doing this before then I start to get, like, crazy and a little like. Like, I feel like that that's. I don't know when I was, like, meeting writer assistants where they were like, I've been doing this for, like, eight years or something. I was like, oh, okay, like, you're not. You're not happy doing this. So that some. And some people are, but that's just, like, how I felt. So I was like, cool, I'll give myself, like, four. Three or four. Because I kind of know myself, and I know that's when I'll start to get, like, restless. But also, then I was doing standup.
Conan O'Brien
And, yeah, you were attacking it on, like, five different fronts.
IO Adebiri
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Which is.
IO Adebiri
But it was. Cause I liked it. Like, I think I do. Like, I have met people also where they're like, oh, and so you were gunning, and you're gunning for that. But it's like, I think at the base of it, I also just really like to learn. So I really was, like, I become very obsessed about stuff, and so, like, I just loved who I was meeting doing stand up. I was seeing, like, all comedy for the first time in New York, and that I could kind of take on a different voice on stage than maybe what might be my. My, like, first instinct. And then also, like, I started, like, writing, like, Shouts and Murmurs pieces with my friend, because I was like, okay, my end goal is writing, not performing. That also is the thing. Like, I really did not picture myself as a actor or performer.
Conan O'Brien
It's interesting because I've. I get the sense you still think of yourself first as a writer, even though.
IO Adebiri
And I think sometimes people are like, are you. Are you right in the head?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Yeah. What's so funny? Because so many people are. Don't aspire to, Hey, I recognize you. And you're gonna get the nice seat at this restaurant.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is something, like, where I have, like, a relatively not always on, but I think I do have a good sense of, like, stuff where I'm like, oh, I can't do this, or I don't want to do this, or, like, I'm not interested in being this thing. Even though something that's been interesting about, like, acting more is that I think it's like, oh, people start to have a perception of you. And that's also why I'm like, whenever I can get the chance, I'm like, I. I like. I'm like, I have to do something that's a comedic thing so that people, like, understand. Like, this is actually, like, my brain and. And, like, my sense of self and not just, like, like, looking cool on the red carpet, which I love, which is great and which is fun.
Conan O'Brien
Do you like the red carpet?
IO Adebiri
No, but. But. But I think it's like, I can appreciate it as another type of performance, and I think then that's a good way to look at it. Also, like, in this weird way, I'm like, that's closer to acting than it is to me. And also, like, weirdly, like, drag. I'm, like, basically doing drag of myself, I feel like. And I'm like, become this vessel for, like, outfit and, like, hair and makeup, and I'm like, that's actually it's like a. It's something else. I'm, like, doing, like. Like a heightened version of, like a pastiche of myself or something. I don't know. But, yeah, thinking of it that way helps me.
Conan O'Brien
I had an attitude a little bit early on because I just was so much into. I'm just gonna. I wanna do these ideas and I wanna do this weird show. And then they would say, okay, well, now's the Emmys, and you guys have supposed to go and walk the red carpet. And I had a little bit of an attitude of. But I don't like this. This is what I'm about. And I was young, but I was also like, this is what I'm about. And then I. It just occurred to me. It's part of the job, you fucking moron.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, it's part of it.
Conan O'Brien
Like, get over yourself. It's part of the job. And find a tux that fits and stand there and get your picture taken and smile and if you know. What do you mean, you don't love it? No one does.
IO Adebiri
No one does. Yeah. I mean, maybe there are people who are beautiful, beautiful freaks, but who are like, oh, yeah, this is what I live for. But I think actually most people are literally like, get me out of my skin.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
This is. This is so insane. And so many people are yelling at me also, and they found they all have a different way of saying my name. And it's so weird. It's so weird. Yeah. But, yeah, it is, like, where I'm just like, yeah, this, like, this helps me make, like, get to be done with it and then get to actually make stuff.
Conan O'Brien
So, like, you have an affinity for physical comedy. When did you know that?
IO Adebiri
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
Like, you kind of like using your physicality. And is that something that you always had or is it something you discovered as you. As you went along?
IO Adebiri
I don't know why. This memory just came to me when I was 11 years old. I remember I did my last split. I did my last split. I did a split. And I knew that I was like, paramedics came. I was like, this is for real, the last split. I was like, I'm done.
Matt Gourley
I have yet to do my last split.
IO Adebiri
Come on now.
Conan O'Brien
Brag.
IO Adebiri
Brag about it. But then I remember my cousin came and found me up the. Went, like, up the stairs because I was stuck. Like, I was. I was just, like, stuck. And my cousin started crying from laughing, and I was like, okay, maybe, like.
Conan O'Brien
Maybe stuck in a split.
IO Adebiri
Yeah. Many such stories in my life.
Conan O'Brien
I love them. Loading you into the ambulance and you're still in a split. On a gurney. Yeah, on a gurney. 11 years old, they're pushing you through the hospital court. It's like the pit, but they're pushing you through in a Split. Clear. Clear. Seven pieces of harm.
IO Adebiri
11 year old stuck in a split.
Conan O'Brien
Third one today. Yeah. Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Welcome to the pit.
Conan O'Brien
Welcome to the pit. Welcome. Special device. They have a special device that gets you out of the split.
IO Adebiri
Yeah. So I don't know many cases such as this in my life, and one of my all time favorites is Katt Williams. And when I think of my favorite jokes of his, I'm like, oh, yeah. They're the ones where he has very physical act outs. I mean, somehow not sweating out that perm. God bless that man. And I think also growing up in the church, huge, huge element of physicality in that, obviously in performance in that. And then I just. I don't know, I felt like I just was like, oh, yeah, I have these really long limbs. Like, I wonder what happens when they just keep going. And I like how it feels also when I can play with, like, how little space I'm taking up and how still I'm being. And then like, how ridiculous I get to be too.
Conan O'Brien
Occasionally in my life, people have asked me about directing something, and my answer is always, I've never thought about it. It's not something I aspire to. I don't know anything about that. You've got to find someone else. And I realize that I have a vision and that I'm directing things all the time when we make comedy, but whenever. Dictating, dictating. Thank you. With an iron fist. Yeah. You know.
Matt Gourley
And an iron dick.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Okay, let's take it easy there. Let's take it easy there, Mao.
IO Adebiri
I've been there years. Between you, who am I but a spectator?
Conan O'Brien
I think of Chairman Mao as a, you know, a director, if you will. But anyway, I know that you directed an episode in season three of the best. The Napkin.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And you got an award for it.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, I got a nomination. I got a DJ nomination.
Conan O'Brien
Let's just say an award. Cause once you get the. It's an honor to be nominated. You won the Oscar for best directing at a TV show.
IO Adebiri
A TV show? Yeah. The first time.
Conan O'Brien
First time it's ever happened.
IO Adebiri
A lifetime achievement Oscar for directing a TV show.
Conan O'Brien
For 75 years of work, you beat Lucille Ball's ghost.
IO Adebiri
And my mom was pissed.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, we were all really mad. We thought that was fucked up. But I, at my Age. Do not have the courage. Courage to say, let me direct that. And you did and did a great job.
IO Adebiri
Thanks.
Conan O'Brien
What drove you to or what did you summon in yourself? Or were you encouraged by the creator of the bit?
IO Adebiri
Definitely encouraged. Definitely encouraged. I've known Chris since I was, like, 22, and I think, well, the first time we met was at a John and Viddy's, and there's, like, probably two.
Conan O'Brien
This is Chris Storer.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, there's probably, like, two clear pictures of Chris Storer, like, online, because he does not go outside. That man is inside. And, like, Like. And it's aided by his own, like, also, like, he missed the Emmys, where we, like, the first Emmys, where we, like, won everything. Cause he got Covid. Cause he went outside the house, like. But he was also, like, I get to be at home. Like, it's. That's very Chris's vibe. So we met at a John and Vinny's, and he was like, yeah, listen, I'm probably gonna be here for about, like, 30 minutes. But I've met you. We're gonna work together again. And also, you're a director. And I was like, cool. See you on set whenever. Also, you're crazy. And then bear started happening again. Maybe when I was, like, 26 or something. Yeah, 25 or 26. And that whole time, we would just talk about movies, TV shows, things that we liked, and writing, producing. We were just always talking about these things. And I, at the time, didn't realize it, but he was speaking to me as if I was another director and would ask me questions, thoughts, and also ask me why, like, why was I thinking this thing? Where was it coming from? Oh, what would you do? Or. Oh, that's interesting. Like, here's this story. Oh, maybe when you work on something else, you should talk to the other director, like, see how that goes. And then kind of around the second season, more intentionally, he was like, I'm thinking about this thing for you. Like, I think that this could be cool. Or do you think that this could be cool? And if you do, like, are you gonna put in the work? And so then I just really. I think I was nervous about. I don't, like, undertaking anything if I'm not. Not gonna be able to, like, do my best. And so I just really was like, oh, okay. I'm gonna, like, try to learn top to bottom what this actually means. Cause I think I also didn't really have an idea of what that job actually was other than that.
Conan O'Brien
Although you had been around, you'd Been on set and you had been directed.
IO Adebiri
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
So you probably had some sense of, okay, this is single camera. I kind of see what they're doing here.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, but, like, what does it mean? And also, like, can I do this if I feel like I don't know everything about every type of camera and every type of lens? You know, like, I think my fear was, like, I had to. But then it's actually like, well, you should know a good amount, but also, like, be able to know enough to help facilitate the people who, like, who actually are experts on the thing, I feel like. And yeah, so anyway, he just really aided me. And then I think I remember during Bottoms, Rachel and I were talking about it, and we were like, oh, yeah. Like, we do also do a certain amount of, like, directing and, like, thinking about things and shots. And we do have, like, ideas.
Conan O'Brien
You have opinions.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, we have opinions, but they're not just, like, based in us being actors. Also, like, we are thinking about the shot. Like, we are thinking about, like, what would be funniest for the frame. Or like, okay, like, make sure you get this insert, actually. Or, like, even though me as an actor, I might want to do this joke in a certain way because it would serve my performance. Like, actually, if I do less here, it's better for, like, the movie overall. Or if I, you know, like, whatever. Things like that. And so, yeah, then I just kind of. Just kind of went in and. And everything. Every day that I wasn't working, I was on set with Chris. I was shadowing him, or I was shadowing other guest directors, then if I wasn't on Bear and I was on another show, I would basically be shadowing the director, even if the director didn't know it.
Conan O'Brien
So do you have the bug now? Do you see yourself directing more?
IO Adebiri
I do, but not anytime soon. Because, I mean, unless something comes up that's like, really, you know, I don't know, something really cool that is, like, inspiring me. I think it's the sort of thing where I'm like, oh, I actually love that. I want to take my time and have the next thing be really right. And I'm, like, writing again. For me too. Or not for me, for myself, for other things too. Cause I've missed that also, I've missed, in a weird way, being in a room and just writing for other people who have other things that they can do. And so I've been writing again.
Conan O'Brien
And you co wrote an episode for season four.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, I did.
Conan O'Brien
That's cool.
IO Adebiri
Yeah. Which I'm excited Yeah. Which I'm excited.
Conan O'Brien
The best quality to have is just to be curious and be kind of voracious and just. I want to know more. I want to know more and I want to evolve. And that is also, I mean, at the risk of this turning into a seminar, I think these are all really good things for especially young people starting out to hear that there is no secret formula. Also, luck is a huge part.
IO Adebiri
Luck is a huge part.
Conan O'Brien
People that don't give it up for luck need a beating. Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Give it up for luck.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
Give it up for luck. No, but even, like, I feel like lucky enough that, like when I was in rooms that the people who were like my bosses were also people who fostered curiosity. I worked on. I don't know, I'm big mouth and like, Nick is somebody. Kroll. Nick Kroll is somebody Krull brackets. But Nick is somebody where I'm like, oh, you're very curious. And also, you know that when you are checking out young comedians who are doing things that people are responding to and you're still making sure you get time on st and you're figuring out like, what's going on, you're inviting these people to like be collaborators and share those ideas. Like that only makes you better. Like that keeps you active, like that keeps you going. And you actually let those people like work or like if they're interested in certain areas in the room or on stage or whatever. You're like, you're bringing them around. You're like showing them these things.
Conan O'Brien
I know. I always say you make. Make a decision early in your career. Be threatened by other really funny people or just go towards them and try and try and evolve from them.
IO Adebiri
Towards them. Threateningly go towards them.
Conan O'Brien
Yes, well, that was implied. Go towards them with a mallet or a large stick and then try and beat them until they get out of the business. Clearing the path for yourself and others. I attacked Odin Kirk. I attacked Odenkirk many times back in the day. 80s.
IO Adebiri
That's like, that's somebody else that where it's like he and Naomi, when I first came out to la, they let me stay in their guest bedroom. Like, where did you get the bill yet? Yeah, because they did that with me too.
Conan O'Brien
And then later on, $600,000 for three.
IO Adebiri
Months, to be fair. Faberge egg in the room, but quite a pretty penny free to keep quite a pretty penny.
Conan O'Brien
I also want to congratulate you on becoming. I mean, you started this, which was an. You improvised a joke about being Irish and then you Kept going. And there's this crucial point where a joke either becomes like, okay, that's enough. I've done it enough. I should stop. Or you double, triple, and quadruple down on it and refuse to let it go, which you did, because you made a joke about being Irish. And now it has resonated so much that the people of Ireland have accepted you as one of their own, which they will not do with me.
IO Adebiri
Sorry, brother.
Conan O'Brien
I am a figure of great shame in Ireland. But you, all the accolades, you got a day in Boston and you're revered by the Irish people. I am rightfully loathed by the Irish and never a day in Boston.
IO Adebiri
Yeah, I think your day could come is what I'll say about that.
Conan O'Brien
I gotta keep at it.
IO Adebiri
Unclear about the Irish relations. We'll do the best. Yeah, I just, like. I think, like, I remember talking about this with a friend. I was like, my favorite type of joke, low key, might be a lie. Like, something where it's like. It's all. It's almost not even funny. It's mostly just funny to me.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
IO Adebiri
And I remember in that moment, I saw, like, my, like, my, like, pr. She was at the corner of my eye and she was kind of like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because I was just like.
Conan O'Brien
It was just depends on what the lie was.
IO Adebiri
Nonsense. It was just me being like, oh, yeah. You know, I was up in Ireland and I was kind of chilling.
Conan O'Brien
I see. Okay, good.
IO Adebiri
She was like, o. Sort of on the horizon. And then. Yeah. I don't know. It just kept going. But then also, like, other Irish people, too, have been like, what's up? And I'm like, yeah, what's up?
Conan O'Brien
Didn't you claim that you. You were the donkey?
IO Adebiri
The donkey.
Conan O'Brien
You were the donkey in panshees of future.
IO Adebiri
I'm a good actor.
Conan O'Brien
You are a very good actor.
IO Adebiri
Well, I can do comedy and drama, Conan and animal work. I'm sort of like the Andy Serkis of the equine family.
Conan O'Brien
You just. I love that your attitude is, don't put me in a bo. I can be the donkey and banshees of Inisherin.
IO Adebiri
That's true, though.
Conan O'Brien
Don't. Yeah, exactly. I owe you an apology.
IO Adebiri
I will think about how I feel about it. Yeah. How much longer do we have on the clock?
Conan O'Brien
You have six more days here.
IO Adebiri
Great.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. We're gonna bring in some water today.
IO Adebiri
By day four, I will have made a decision.
Conan O'Brien
It is a delight talking to you. Really. Is it over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. I mean, we can go more if you want, you know, but what are we really gonna do? You know, you're gonna quickly look at me and he's so sickly.
IO Adebiri
Or.
Conan O'Brien
Or. Or.
IO Adebiri
I don't. I. It's fine. Yeah. Sorry.
Conan O'Brien
The hell was going on there?
IO Adebiri
I was like. I don't know. I thought maybe that was a doorbell.
Conan O'Brien
I thought it was a doorbell you were dealing with.
IO Adebiri
He is sick.
Conan O'Brien
He's.
IO Adebiri
He's terminal.
Conan O'Brien
And also, I'm going to tell you something. You were late. You were three minutes late to this podcast. Wow. Wow. Listen, I just, you know, I think professionalism is.
IO Adebiri
Okay, then I'll just say that for real. For real. Like, you're on, like, one of my. I mean, you're talking about your influences. I feel like you're one of mine in a major way. So this is really cool to get to be here with you before we put you on a ventilator.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, ventilator's coming. Yeah, I am. No, and I. I get a lot of optimism and energy by meeting all these young people that are out there doing it the right way and so talented and taking all these chances and doing such good work. And you also have just such a great spirit. So it's a joy having you here. I hope you come back next time I see you way across the street.
IO Adebiri
Let's run into oncoming traffic.
Conan O'Brien
I'm gonna run into oncoming traffic.
IO Adebiri
I would love to see you have a conversation with Tyler, the creator. I mean, that would be great. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. You don't.
Conan O'Brien
No, I've looked him up in the. In the phone book. He's creator of comics. Tyler.
IO Adebiri
Tyler the.
Matt Gourley
Tyler the creator and Conan the Destroyer.
IO Adebiri
Edward doesn't even know who he is.
Conan O'Brien
Everybody knows Tyler the creator. He's the creator named Tyler. He's in the phone book as creator comma, Tyler the. Oh, God, these people.
IO Adebiri
Idiots. You're surrounded by idiots. Surrounded by fools.
Conan O'Brien
Charlatans. Hat. Dragging me into the muck.
IO Adebiri
As if you don't know.
Conan O'Brien
Creator Kava.
IO Adebiri
Tyler.
Conan O'Brien
As if I don't know. And all these sorted creations.
IO Adebiri
Things he's created.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, my God. Don't get me started on the things.
IO Adebiri
Don't waste your time.
Conan O'Brien
Tyler's created.
IO Adebiri
Don't waste your breath on him.
Conan O'Brien
Start at the top.
IO Adebiri
I know, but don't.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, IO stop me. From the longest list of Tyler's creations.
IO Adebiri
They don't deserve it.
Conan O'Brien
There isn't time. You're right. IO, thank you so much for being here. Come back anytime and you make me happy.
IO Adebiri
Okay. And it's like in two minutes or 20 minutes. Great.
Conan O'Brien
Give me a 20 minute break. Bye. I'm gonna go out on a ledge here and say, in the olden days, people used to go on Amazon to get very specific things. You know, I want to get a cuckoo claw. It's made of caramel, hardened caramel. And they'd go on Amazon and they'd look it up and they'd order it. But you know what they're forgetting? Amazon is the go to destination for both everyday essentials and those last minute must haves. From detergents to diapers, cookies to pain relievers. Find it all on Amazon and save time. Remember the old days. I gotta get to the store and buy my aspirin.
IO Adebiri
No.
Conan O'Brien
Hello, Amazon. Check out Amazon Basics and Amazon Essentials for quality products you'll love. Next time you run out of coffee, need a new lipstick, realize you're out of light bulbs. Guess what? Amazon has you covered. Save the everyday with deals from Amazon. You know, like a Conan bit. Sonic takes the pickle too far with their big dill meal. I wonder what they're saying. What are they saying here? That's an insult to me. I don't take things too far. Oh, my Sonic, I've got a beef with you. And a very delicious beef. First you get the Smasher topped with Grillo's pink. Then there's pickle seasoned tots. And they're pickling further than anyone before with the Picklerita slush. When I have a slush, I want pickles in there. Full of pickle flavored bursting bubbles topped with a Grillo's pickle garnish. This must be the edge of the known pickle verse. Oh, whoever came up with that needs a beating. To which Sonic says, no, you don't understand. This is just the beginning. You think a pickle burger, pickle tots and a pickle slush is a lot of pickle hubris. We'll pick pickle everything. That's their logo. Well, the Sonic and Grillos big deal meal. It's the Conan bit. Oh my God. They're going after me. Hard of burger pickle meals.
Matt Gourley
We're gonna go back to something we did way in the early stages of this podcast before it was.
Conan O'Brien
This is like 1976.
Matt Gourley
Yeah, it's maybe one of the dumbest things we've ever done on this podcast. So I was absent for at least an episode. I think it might have even been more than one episode around the Bob Newhart episode or Something. And this was back in the early days where I wasn't really on the mic that much and you used Adam as me as a stand in for me and never mentioned it on the podcast. So he would just say, as me. You'd say, like, I'm here with Matt Gourley. And he'd go, hi.
Conan O'Brien
Why couldn't we just admit that?
Matt Gourley
Well, it's so funny because it ended up being this thing that when I came back back, we decided to play a game with the two of you where you turned around, closed your eyes, and Adam and I both took turns saying hi, trying to get you to figure out which one of us was.
Conan O'Brien
Was me.
IO Adebiri
So scary. Remember this?
Conan O'Brien
Yes, I do remember. I do remember this. I do remember this being. And this is really saying something for me. Height of idiocy. It was awesome. And for me to say that. Yeah.
Matt Gourley
And there was also no question when it was Adam and when it was me. It wasn't even like.
Conan O'Brien
The part that made it the dumbest is that we just kept taking turns.
Matt Gourley
We didn't randomize it at all because we didn't think about it beforehand. So what we're going to do today is we're going to try it again.
Conan O'Brien
Okay.
Matt Gourley
And then we're also.
IO Adebiri
Adam.
Matt Gourley
I know. We're also going to add in Eduardo and Blade to the mix. After that, we'll do a round with just me and Adam. Okay. So you guys are going to have to turn around or close your eyes. And Adam, you got to come over to my mic. So we're in the same area.
IO Adebiri
Do we do this?
Matt Gourley
It's more that you have to close your eyes.
Conan O'Brien
Okay. Also, I have my eyes closed and my head down. Like, I'm very sad.
IO Adebiri
I know.
Matt Gourley
Okay. And we will randomize this time.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, wait, I'm. This means I'm off mic.
IO Adebiri
Hold on.
Conan O'Brien
I forgot about. I forgot about the microphone. Here we go. All right. Hi, that's Adam, That's Adam. Hi, that's.
IO Adebiri
That's Matt. Hi, that's Matt.
Conan O'Brien
That's Matt. Hi. Oh, that's interesting. Can we hear that one again? Hi, that's Matt, that's Matt. Hi, that's Adam, that's Adam.
IO Adebiri
Hi, Matt.
Conan O'Brien
Hi, Matt. Matt. Hi, that's Adam. Your voices are so different, you guys.
Matt Gourley
I have news for you.
Conan O'Brien
But also, you can open your eyes.
IO Adebiri
Different voices.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. I want to. I want.
Matt Gourley
I'm proud be to tell you you scored 100%.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. What? It's not that.
IO Adebiri
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
You know what? Your personalities come through even in In. I mean, it's barely was this hard the first time. No, no, you got the first time. We didn't know you as well then.
Matt Gourley
Yeah, I know.
Conan O'Brien
That was in the early days.
Matt Gourley
Okay, now the we're going to do.
Conan O'Brien
With all four of us. Oh, yeah, that's going to be tough.
IO Adebiri
I don't know.
Matt Gourley
Eduardo.
Conan O'Brien
Eduardo says ola. Our range is coming. Kind of. Ardono's gonna say, hola.
Matt Gourley
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
And Clay is gonna go, hey. And everyone's gonna have to adjust the board.
IO Adebiri
Matt tried so hard to make his voice sound so different. It was always the same.
Matt Gourley
I love this game and I don't know why.
Conan O'Brien
And I love it. It's so fun. Stupid. I do have to say. You have to really concentrate, but people can't hide their essence.
IO Adebiri
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
You know it's true. Oh, my God.
Matt Gourley
Okay, so you. You two come over here. And Adam as well.
IO Adebiri
Stupid. The way we're crouching and closing.
Conan O'Brien
Quiet. You gotta take this seriously.
IO Adebiri
So stupid.
Matt Gourley
And then we'll make sure we're all on the camera.
IO Adebiri
I can't believe this is my job.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, this photo's gonna be incredible. All right, here we go. Oh, my God. And Sona, you have to. Wait a second.
IO Adebiri
You're just upset. Cause I guessed it.
Conan O'Brien
No, no, it's not that.
Matt Gourley
It's just lean in.
Conan O'Brien
Because sometimes. Okay, go ahead. And let's be three, two. Hi. Well, that sounds like Eduardo to me.
IO Adebiri
Same thing. Disease.
Conan O'Brien
Hi. Oh, that still sounds like Eduardo to me.
IO Adebiri
No, that sounds like.
Conan O'Brien
I think that's Adam. Hi. Hold up. Now they're coming too quickly. Say again. Hi, That's. Bro.
IO Adebiri
That's. I'm going to say that's Matt.
Conan O'Brien
Hi, That's Matt.
IO Adebiri
That's Matt. Hey, that's Eduardo.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, it's Eduardo. Cause I think it has a tilde on it. Jesus Christ. I felt a tilde fall to the floor and make a clanging sound. Hi, that's Eduardo. That's.
IO Adebiri
I think that's Adam.
Conan O'Brien
I think it's. I think it's Adam. After he's traveled. He spent some time traveling and he's been watching a lot of football. Hi. Oh, my God. That's Matt being a dick. That's Matt just doing one of his bits. Hi. That's gotta be Blay.
IO Adebiri
Blay.
Conan O'Brien
Hi. Just going so soft that we can barely hear you is a technique. Try it again. Hi.
IO Adebiri
I think that's Blay.
Conan O'Brien
I don't think Blay's capable of being that quiet.
IO Adebiri
But it was such. I was gonna Say it's such belabored.
Conan O'Brien
Whispering that it's when Blay goes through the TSA, the wand goes off and they confiscate 35 exclamation points.
Matt Gourley
Who was it? Who was that? That last one?
Conan O'Brien
Let me hear it again. Hi. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it's Blay.
Matt Gourley
Okay, we're gonna do one last round.
Conan O'Brien
Hold on. You have to tell us how we did. We will.
Matt Gourley
Close your eyes. We're gonna do one last one where we're gonna do four in a row. It's gonna be each one of us does one, and you have to say in order, which one of it is okay.
Conan O'Brien
Hi. That's Matt.
Matt Gourley
No, don't say it.
Conan O'Brien
Just.
Matt Gourley
Just remember.
Conan O'Brien
Shit, now I'm not gonna remember. I'm in my 80s.
Matt Gourley
Here we go. We're start over.
Conan O'Brien
Hi. Okay. Hi. Hi. Hi. Okay, I think it's Adam first, then Matt. What do you think? Sona. Adam.
IO Adebiri
Matt. Blay. Eduardo.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Okay, we're opening our eyes. Yes. Wow.
Matt Gourley
This was a lot more difficult for you guys.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. Of course.
Matt Gourley
You only got four correct. They're both of you. The both of you.
Conan O'Brien
And what were the mistakes that we made besides hiring you?
Matt Gourley
I'm not sure, but that last.
Conan O'Brien
I'm so glad I wasn't around for the first version.
Matt Gourley
The last one with the four of us. You both got, right?
Conan O'Brien
Yes.
Matt Gourley
All four in a row.
IO Adebiri
I didn't even have my headphones in the whole time, did I?
Conan O'Brien
You did.
IO Adebiri
Oh, just kidding.
Conan O'Brien
Why would you lie like that? I thought you did. You're a sociopath.
Matt Gourley
You know what's so great about this game?
Conan O'Brien
Who lies about this game? In order to. How competitive are you? You. I don't think I have my headphones on. We have video.
IO Adebiri
We do.
Conan O'Brien
What are you talking about?
Matt Gourley
You're the one going like, no, you can't just do it.
Conan O'Brien
Quiet.
IO Adebiri
You.
Matt Gourley
You had all these complaints. You always have to complain about the game when you're kind of, like, teetering on success.
Conan O'Brien
I. Listen to me, please. It's about time someone listened to me on this podcast. When do I get a chance to speak? Oh, boy, said the idiot. I do think it's a little unfair when it gets down to. You're just like, okay, now it's just a little bit of air, that's all. It's me. Maybe I'm being a little fussy.
Matt Gourley
Fair enough. The great thing about this game is it's not only fun and smart, but listeners can play at home as well.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, yeah, that's a really good point. And you know what? If people play this and enjoy it, we will figure out a way to make this into a game that you have to purchase. Yeah.
Matt Gourley
Home Assistant.
IO Adebiri
A voice box. And you press it.
Conan O'Brien
I think it's gonna.
IO Adebiri
If someone says high and you guess.
Conan O'Brien
Remember on Family Feud, you're talking about a machine. I was thinking it'd be like an app or something, but you're talking about an actual machine.
IO Adebiri
I thought you meant, like a board game.
Matt Gourley
Like Twister, too. Like, okay, Family Feud when they say you get to take the board game home.
Conan O'Brien
You know. You know what we could call it? We could call it Make Hay While the Sun Shines. And there's a little box, and you hit it and it gives you a hay. And if you correct. If you guess which of all of us it is, you get to advance your piece.
IO Adebiri
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Or ha. It maker.
IO Adebiri
No. It's hot. We're saying hi. They've been saying hi.
Conan O'Brien
Doesn't it sound like hey to you? Hey.
IO Adebiri
No, we just heard it, like, 40 times.
Matt Gourley
It's always been a high.
Conan O'Brien
Whatever said hey, it has made everyone.
Matt Gourley
So that is why we should call it Make High While the Sun Shines.
Conan O'Brien
Yes.
Matt Gourley
Make high While the Sun Shines.
Conan O'Brien
It sounded like hey to me. I know that I have a problem.
Matt Gourley
You do?
IO Adebiri
We do.
Conan O'Brien
I drink before the podcast, and afterwards.
IO Adebiri
Could be a fun, drinky game if you get it wrong. Shoddy shot.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. But we need to figure out a way to make this something that we can profit from, and I don't want the profits going to some charity. So I'm sorry, but I need to. You said, no, I don't want.
IO Adebiri
No, I said you. We need to make this a game somehow.
Conan O'Brien
We need to make it a game, and then we need to profit from it. And I don't want to hear about these sick kids. I'm sick of that. Wait, hold on. What.
Matt Gourley
What is this we? Because Adam and I came up and designed this game, and we. We. We spent a lot of time on it. We met outside of the podcast.
Conan O'Brien
So you're basically. You work at Apple, and you just went to Steve Jobs and said, well, I thought of it while working for you, so I don't think you should.
Matt Gourley
I'm an independent contractor. I'm not an Any kind of like.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, you think that's going to work on Steve Jobs? He's going to just. He's gonna. He's gonna start. His head's gonna start quivering a little bit in his black turtleneck, and then your Your brain is. Is going to explode.
Matt Gourley
I'm taking this straight to smartless.
IO Adebiri
No. You know what? If it's just the two of you saying hi with no one guessing, it's just two Dicks in a microphone.
Conan O'Brien
And so we got another title. That's the name. That's the name. Two Dicks and a Mic. Two Dicks in a Mic. You know what?
Matt Gourley
So many dicks.
Conan O'Brien
And I think all of us need to sell. Two Dicks and a Mic would sell. And, you know, let's just call it Four Dicks and a Mic is a good title. That's better than my. You know. God, I thought they said hey and they said hi. Whatever. Okay, that was wrong. But I think that. I think it's called 4 you're over simpl.
IO Adebiri
You thought they said hey after you heard them say hi so many times.
Conan O'Brien
Do you know that I was in a lot of accidents when I was a kid? My. A lot of head injuries. And that I was beaten constantly by my brother Neil, and still when I go home to Brookline, Mass. I'm still beaten by my brother Neil.
IO Adebiri
Okay, then we could call it hey and just say hi.
Conan O'Brien
No, no, no, no. We've got the title. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. No, it's 4.
IO Adebiri
What do you mean?
Conan O'Brien
Because you have two people at home guessing. I mean, if it's a home version, it's six of us, right?
IO Adebiri
All of us saying hi.
Conan O'Brien
High. Yes, yes.
Matt Gourley
You guys have. Your voices are too distinct.
Conan O'Brien
You can't. I can change mine. Listen to this.
IO Adebiri
Just say hi. Why aren't you saying hi?
Conan O'Brien
Because I'm. I'm too outside the box for that. You. You always want Picasso to paint inside the lines.
IO Adebiri
Can you do high like girls?
Conan O'Brien
Hi. That's girls. And Michael. That's girls and Michael Jackson.
Matt Gourley
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
So do you try. And in the background you have bubbles.
IO Adebiri
I'm gonna do it.
Conan O'Brien
Hi.
IO Adebiri
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
You're just getting quiet when. Anyway, hey, if you're interested.
IO Adebiri
Oh, that was a good one.
Conan O'Brien
Excuse me. Hi. If you're interested in six dicks and a mic being a game. And listen, this isn't some free thing. This has got to be something.
IO Adebiri
People are gonna think that's porn. Six dicks in a mic.
Conan O'Brien
That's why they're gonna buy it and then they're gonna get it and they're.
Matt Gourley
Gonna think, wow, what is the mic?
Conan O'Brien
Why is there not a mic? And you know what? If people buy it thinking it's porn and then they find out that it's this, they get in the mail. This cardboard board game with pegs with our faces on it and a little box you hit that randomly goes, hi. Hey. Hi. Now we have to make this.
Matt Gourley
We have to make this. That's what's in the box. But on the COVID is a dude.
Conan O'Brien
Named Mike and shirtless, all oiled up. Yes, that's the COVID It's six dicks and a mic. The COVID is very male porn. And then you open it up and it's this game that we and Adam, I want to make sure we, the worst people make this, that it's very cheaply made and do they still. Can you still get. I want it to be made of something that's kind of toxic. Yeah.
Matt Gourley
Is there a Parker brother who's been outcast from the other Parker brothers?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, Parker Posey. It's Parker Posey. Okay. Anyway, we're going to be looking for this soon. It's going to be available. Six dicks and a mic. Coming soon to an alley near you.
Matt Gourley
Conan o' Brien needs a friend. With Conan o', Brien, Sonam of session and Matt Gourley Produced by me, Matt Gourley executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and Nick Leow. Theme song by the White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair and our associate talent producer is Jennifer. Samples, engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Bautista and Brit Kahn. You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts and you might find your review read on a future episode. Got a question for Conan? Call the Team Coco hotline at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It too could be featured on a future episode. You can also get three free months of SiriusXM when you sign. Sign up@siriusxm.com Conan and if you haven't already, please subscribe to Conan O' Brien needs a friend. Wherever fine podcasts are downloaded.
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When life brings the blah, add more.
IO Adebiri
Yabba dabba doo with some tasty fruity Pebbles. Early morning meeting, blah. Someone brought the Pebbles yabba dabba down.
Conan O'Brien
Run errands, blah. Head to the store for Pebbles.
IO Adebiri
Yabba dabba doo. Fruity Pebbles, less blah, more yabba dabba doo. Pick up Pebbles cereal today. Yabba dabba doo and the Flintstones and.
Conan O'Brien
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IO Adebiri
I'm June Diane Rayfield.
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IO Adebiri
From blockbuster franchises and made for TV.
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Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Episode: Ayo Edebiri
Release Date: July 7, 2025
Introduction and Icebreakers (00:00 - 02:17)
The episode kicks off with Conan O’Brien engaging in playful banter with Ayo Edebiri, introducing a lighthearted atmosphere. They humorously discuss managing a "good ship" and appoint comedic roles such as Conan as the captain and Matt Gourley in the engine room.
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Banter with Matt Gourley (02:17 - 10:07)
Matt Gourley joins the conversation, continuing the mock cruise ship scenario. The trio engages in a comedic exchange about Matt's role, leading to humorous jabs about respect and personal dynamics.
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The discussion takes a surreal turn as they humorously speculate about a fictional new Pope from Chicago, weaving in exaggerated anecdotes and playful arguments about toppling a pope through unconventional means.
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Ayo’s Entrance and Personal Stories (10:07 - 31:38)
Ayo Edebiri officially joins the conversation, sharing personal anecdotes about meeting Conan for the first time. She recounts an incident where she made a supportive video for Conan's daughter, highlighting her kindness and the resulting humorous chaos.
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Ayo delves into her background, discussing her upbringing in Dorchester, Boston, and her experiences attending a public school for gifted students. She shares her journey from pursuing an education degree to embracing a career in comedy, detailing the challenges and support from her family.
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Career Insights and Directing (31:38 - 44:27)
Ayo discusses her foray into directing, sharing her experiences and the encouragement she received from colleagues like Chris Storer. She elaborates on her creative process, emphasizing the importance of curiosity and continuous learning in her work.
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She reflects on balancing her roles as a writer, director, and actor, highlighting the collaborative nature of her projects and her commitment to maintaining her creative integrity.
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Humorous Segments and Games (44:28 - 65:48)
The conversation shifts to a playful game where Conan, Ayo, and Matt attempt to guess each other's identities while imitating voices. The segment is filled with laughter, failed attempts, and light-hearted teasing, showcasing the group's chemistry and comedic timing.
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The trio brainstorms humorous game ideas inspired by their interactions, contemplating potential titles like "Six Dicks and a Mic" and engaging in absurd hypothetical scenarios.
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Closing Remarks and Final Banter (65:48 - 68:10)
As the episode wraps up, Conan and the guests continue their comedic exchanges, reflecting on past podcast episodes and playful criticisms of each other's contributions. The episode concludes with a blend of humor and camaraderie, leaving listeners entertained and eager for future discussions.
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Conclusion
This episode of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend offers a blend of heartfelt conversations and spontaneous humor. Ayo Edebiri shares her personal journey in comedy and directing, providing listeners with insights into her creative process and experiences. The playful interactions and games with Matt Gourley add an entertaining layer, showcasing the genuine friendship Conan seeks on his podcast.
Key Takeaways:
This episode is a testament to the show's mission of fostering real connections through engaging and unboundedly playful conversations.
Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections have been omitted to focus solely on the substantive discussions and interactions between Conan, Ayo, and Matt.