Club Grub Hub

Summary

Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend: "Club Grub Hub" – Episode Summary

In the December 19, 2024 episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend titled "Club Grub Hub," Conan O’Brien welcomes Alejandra Trigueros as his guest. Alejandra, a 34-year-old legal counsel at a major engineering multinational based in Madrid, Spain, opens up about her professional journey, balancing a high-powered career with family life, her passion for food, and the challenges of maintaining personal well-being amidst a demanding schedule.

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1. Introduction to Alejandra Trigueros

Background and Career

Alejandra Trigueros introduces herself as a legal counsel specializing in international commercial contracting at a large engineering multinational. She shares insights into her role, highlighting the intricacies and demands of her profession.

Alejandra Trigueros: "I am a legal counsel in the legal department of a big engineering multinational. I do international commercial contracting."
[07:41]

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2. Language and Cultural Adaptation

Mastering English Through Media

Alejandra discusses her accent and fluency in English, attributing her proficiency to extensive consumption of American entertainment and living with Americans for three years.

Alejandra Trigueros: "I speak English like this because I suffer from an acute over consumption of American entertainment... podcasts, books, movies, TV shows."
[03:37]

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3. Balancing a Demanding Career with Family Life

Managing Multiple Roles

Alejandra shares her experience juggling a high-stress job while raising two young children, including a four-month-old newborn. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and carving out personal time to maintain her mental health.

Alejandra Trigueros: "I do have mental breakdowns a bit often, to be honest, but I'm still sort of managing sanity."
[18:27]

Conan's Perspective on Parenthood

Conan relates by discussing his own challenges in balancing work and family, expressing admiration for Alejandra's ability to find balance.

Conan O'Brien: "Congratulations on having these two children and a newborn. That's a lot of work."
[07:08]

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4. Passion for Food and Dining

Culinary Interests Shaped by Family

Alejandra's love for food stems from her upbringing in a family where food was a central topic. Her father’s enthusiasm for food and wine significantly influenced her passion.

Alejandra Trigueros: "Conversations in my house were nothing other than, like, this sauce. Books about food everywhere."
[27:22]

Social Dining and Professional Connections

She mentions her brother being a chef at a fancy restaurant, enhancing her connection to the culinary world and her frequent visits to diverse restaurants.

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5. Managing Stress and Self-Care

Strategies for Maintaining Well-Being

Alejandra discusses the high levels of stress in her job and the importance of self-care activities like dining out with friends and enjoying delicious food to relieve stress.

Alejandra Trigueros: "Self care just isn't so easy and you have to make time for yourself or else I feel a lot more guilty when I lose my patience."
[18:54]

Conan's Humorous Take on Podcasting and Sleep

Conan suggests that reducing podcast talk could help Alejandra’s sleep, highlighting the humorous interplay between their professional lives.

Conan O'Brien: "You know what we should do? It's... I should speak less and you guys should speak more so that children can sleep."
[06:04]

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6. Social Life and Clubbing

Exploring Late-Night Social Activities

The conversation shifts to social outings and the concept of clubbing. Conan humorously expresses his desire to start going to clubs later in life, while Alejandra shares her own experiences with socializing and the occasional indulgence.

Conan O'Brien: "I just hit the age when I think I'm ready to go to the clubs. I never went to the clubs before."
[20:36]

Alejandra Trigueros: "I threw up from drinking too much... I was like, I remember that feeling."
[21:15]

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7. Reflections on Parenthood and Career Sacrifices

Balancing Professional Commitments and Family

Conan reflects on the sacrifices required to balance a demanding career with family responsibilities, praising his wife Liza for her exceptional role as a mother.

Conan O'Brien: "I hit the jackpot with my wife, Liza, because she is an impeccable mom, and she just did an incredible job."
[25:46]

Importance of Self-Care and Personal Time

Alejandra emphasizes the need for self-care and the guilt that can arise from neglecting personal needs, drawing a parallel to the airplane oxygen mask analogy.

Conan O'Brien: "When you're on an airplane and the oxygen masks drop down, you've got to put yours on first before you put it on the child."
[19:10]

Alejandra Trigueros: "I also can't help... You need to take much more time for yourself."
[19:21]

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8. Humorous Banter and Closing Remarks

Hosting and Conversational Dominance

Conan and Alejandra engage in playful banter about hosting dinners with Alejandra’s food-loving father, showcasing Conan's humorous take on conversation dynamics.

Conan O'Brien: "I will talk three times as much as your father about this stuff I know nothing about."
[28:49]

Appreciation and Farewell

The episode wraps up with Conan expressing admiration for Alejandra’s achievements and hoping for future interactions.

Conan O'Brien: "You're a very impressive person. Congratulations on all of your achievements, and I hope we cross paths. That would be fun."
[30:26]

Alejandra Trigueros: "Thank you for all the entertainment and laughs."
[30:39]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Alejandra on English Proficiency: "I speak English like this because I suffer from an acute over consumption of American entertainment."
  [03:37]

• Alejandra on Mental Health: "I do have mental breakdowns a bit often, to be honest, but I'm still sort of managing sanity."
  [18:27]

• Conan on Self-Care Analogy: "When you're on an airplane and the oxygen masks drop down, you've got to put yours on first before you put it on the child."
  [19:10]

• Alejandra on Family Conversations: "Conversations in my house were nothing other than, like, this sauce. Books about food everywhere."
  [27:22]

• Conan on Relationship Balance: "Find out how much your home's [e-mail] host..." (Note: This seems part of an advertisement and may be excluded)

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Conclusion

The "Club Grub Hub" episode offers a heartfelt and humorous exploration of Alejandra Trigueros' life, highlighting the intricate balance between a demanding career, family responsibilities, and personal passions. Through candid dialogue and witty exchanges, Conan and Alejandra provide valuable insights into managing stress, the importance of self-care, and maintaining meaningful social connections. This episode exemplifies the podcast's mission to foster genuine friendships and deep conversations beyond the typical celebrity interview format.

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Alejandra Trigueros]

What?

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Matt Gourley]

Hi, Alejandra. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Hi. Oh my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hello.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I told myself to not freak out when I met you guys, and look how that went.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's okay. You're allowed to freak out. That's okay. Your name is Alejandra. Is this right?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Alejandra?

[Conan O'Brien]

Alejandra Trigueros. And where are you calling us from?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Well, just call me Bob if you're going to say that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Everyone's a wise guy. Alejandra, tell us, where are you right now?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I'M in Madrid, Spain.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my God. Madrid. I've never been to Madrid.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, really, you should. In Barcelona. Everyone's been to Barcelona.

[Conan O'Brien]

I've been to Barcelona, but I've never been to Barcelona. I've been. But I've never been to Madrid. And I would. I would love to see it someday. Alejandra. Tell us a little bit. Do you go by Alejandra?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Mostly Ali.

[Conan O'Brien]

Ali. Okay. Ali.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, Alejandra sounds very serious. Like my mom when she gets mad at me.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, so your English is perfect. You. I mean, you sound. You sound like you're. You're. You're coming to me from San Diego or something. I mean, you're. It's.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Perfect right now. Or Cincinnati.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Cincinnati.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I'm saying you have a beautiful Cincinnati accent.

[Matt Gourley]

That's amazing. Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Hey, I'll take it. Over a thick local accent. I'll take it.

[Conan O'Brien]

But Alejandra, how did your. I mean, you. You live. You're a. Are you a citizen of. Of Madrid? You grew up in Madrid?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, I was born and raised here.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I speak English like this because I suffer from an acute over consumption of American entertainment. We're seeing really acute everything I get my hands on. Podcasts, books, movies, TV shows, all the things.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So when people ask me about my English and I tell them I read a little bit of gossip every now and then, I see. See, it pays off.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's funny. That's great. So you just basically watched American television, listened to American podcasts, and that has influenced. It's destroyed one of the most beautiful accents in the world. Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Well, I did live with Americans for about three years. Friends from New York shout out to Michelle Palmer and Jamie, and I spent 24 hours with them.

[Conan O'Brien]

Really great. Can we make sure we edit out that shout out, please? I don't make sure it's edited out. I don't trust them.

[Matt Gourley]

They're gone.

[Conan O'Brien]

They're not. I'm not friends with them. I don't know them.

[Matt Gourley]

Dead to us.

[Conan O'Brien]

Just put a big over that shout out. Not for any other. Not for a legal reason, just that I don't know them and they should get no free rides.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

How about if I give you some credit? You and Ellen have also played a major role because I've consumed all the things, all the clips of your talk shows that I could get off the Internet because your shows weren't shown here. So when YouTube started, I started watching a bunch of Ellen and YouTube suggested some clips of your show, and I was peeing my pants laughing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, that's so glad that I made you urinate, Alejandra. Many people think I am Ellen. And many people go up to Ellen and say, hi, Conan. So it's a common misconception.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Well, both pale, the hair color, and you've said your womanly looks. Yeah. They're your words.

[Conan O'Brien]

These are my words. These are my words come back to haunt me. Well, tell me a little bit about your life. Mostly what I like to do is try and figure out how I can help my fans around the world. How can I help you, Alejandra? What can I do for you? I don't think I can do much. You're very beautiful. You're obviously very smart, very well spoken. How can I help you?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So I'm 34. I have two kids. I've recently had the second one. She's four months old, and I actually have a little beef with you because I was recently trying to get her to sleep, and I listened to a lot of hours of this podcast, and when I say you, I mean the three of you. And recently you guys made me laugh so hard that I woke up my newborn, who had just gone to sleep. After about 30 minutes of trying to get her to sleep, it's like, oh, my God, I hate them, even though I love them.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. You know what we should do? It's. I should speak less and you guys should speak more so that children can sleep.

[Sona Movsesian]

We should speak in soothing tones.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, no.

[Matt Gourley]

You mean so it's not as funny?

[Conan O'Brien]

Exactly. I think when I'm talking, it's like. And then. But I think you guys should take the lead.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, well, I'm kind of shrill, so I think that it just should be gorly. But you're really funny, too, so maybe I should. I don't know. No one should talk.

[Matt Gourley]

I think if we just use just kind of foggier voices like this.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, well, now you just sound like.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I should maybe not be a listener.

[Conan O'Brien]

But then again, I wouldn't listen to the podcast. I've told many people you should not listen to the podcast while caring for a sleeping baby because, I mean, the laughs are gonna come. They just are.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

They are.

[Conan O'Brien]

They are so. Well, congratulations on having these two children and a newborn. That's a lot of work. Or so I'm told. What did I do? Oh, my God, Nothing. Really? Nothing? I was told by my wife you're to have nothing to do with these children.

[Sona Movsesian]

Smart.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. She wanted them to grow up without the Conan influence, so. But. And so. So are you. Are you taking care of Them full time or do you work?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So as of right now, I'm taking care of the little one. The big one is in school. My husband's gone back to work, but I go back to work October 14th after. Yeah, we got. We get about five months of maternity leave in Spain.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow. Wow.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So it is a lot.

[Conan O'Brien]

What is your, what is your. What is your profession?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I am a legal counsel in the legal department of a big engineering multinational. I do international commercial contracting. I'm boring myself by explaining this. Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, no. First of all, first, Alejandra, do not sell yourself short. That is a. I am very impressed. That is a very high powered job you have.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I will tell you, that's. That's quite a lot. I mean, you have sounds like your husband has a job. You have this very high powered job. You have two kids. That's a lot.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Like, my job is intense, but it's also not as insane as it is to become a lawyer. In the US It's a. It's less years. It's. I studied about six years, whereas in the US you have to do like four undergrad and then about three of grad school than the else. That's insane. Here's not as insane. Although I won't. I'll take the compliment.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Alejandra, you keep trying to convince me that you're not an impressive person, and yet you are clearly the smartest person out of the four of us in this room.

[Matt Gourley]

And you're not even in the room.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're not in the room, and you're much smarter than we are.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Okay, keep talking.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's a lot, though. That's a lot to have.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, it's intense. He's not sleeping a lot.

[Conan O'Brien]

And to. To be legal counsel for this massive company, that's big.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, it. It's pretty big. It's. It's not a lot of sleeping, it's a lot of stressing, a lot of cortisol pumping all the time.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So, yeah, it's a bit intense. I do go to a fair amount of restaurants. I'm obsessed with food. I grew up in a family that talks about nothing other than food, so I, I make a point of taking some space for myself, going to restaurants, trying delicious food, going out with friends. So I do manage to get some space for myself. Why is that being.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm impressed by that because. Not that I'm throwing her under the bus or anything, but when my children were born, my wife said no restaurants, no movies, no joy for anyone until they're 12 years old and kind of locked it down. Kind of locked it down. And so we're just sort of. They're, they're both in college now and we just, I, we're just now going outside again and I remembered, oh, that's the sun. Look at the sun. That burning orb in the sky. But anyway, I love my wife. Shut it down. That's so nice. My wife was not, we were not going to restaurants for quite a while.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

Is that because she was tired or. She didn't want to, like, was afraid of what your kids would do in the restaurant?

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, she just didn't want to leave the kids behind. Oh, when kids are young, I mean, you're not taking your kids to. I think first of all, in Spain, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Madrid, don't you start eating? The time to start dinner, I think is at 2 o'clock in the morning. Isn't that when you guys have dinner?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

It is fairly late. Not 2am but it is fairly late.

[Matt Gourley]

What time do you eat dinner?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Like a regular dinner that's not too early? Not too late would be at 9.

[Conan O'Brien]

Starting at 9.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm asleep by then.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, I'm serious. My wife.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah. My foreign friends want to book tables at 7 and the restaurants aren't even open.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, no.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I'll tell you the earlies. This table they have is at 8:30. Oh boy.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is a true thing. The McDonald's in Madrid, they all serve breakfast. They start at 5:00 in the afternoon. That's a true story. You can't have it before then. Lunch is at 6:00 and then you can't get Big Mac, I don't think till 4am they're all insane. It's not called the Big Mac in Spain. It's called El. It's called the Conquistador.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah. My husband's foreign and he does not do well with our eating schedule here.

[Conan O'Brien]

Where is your husband from?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

From Poland.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, he's from Poland, so he must think these people are crazy. They're going out to have these full. I mean, these are elaborate meals too, right? You're having elaborate meals in elaborate restaurants? Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

What time do you go to bed? And are you going to bed just in full digestion mode where.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

No, I think people go to bed at like 11pm so if you have dinner at like 7, then you're really hungry by the time you go to bed?

[Conan O'Brien]

Uh, no, no, I'm just ramping.

[Matt Gourley]

Give it a shot.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think you're Just different people.

[Matt Gourley]

They're.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm telling you that it's a. It's a whole different culture. They're different people. They have massive meals very late at night.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I love that.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then, in theory, I love that.

[Sona Movsesian]

I love that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, first of all, yeah, lunch also happens late, so. Okay, you go out to these meals. Is your husband coming with you on these meals when you go out?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Mostly we take turns to go out with friends because if both of us leave, then it's a whole thing. Either my mom, the nanny, like, it's. It's too much. So I'm mostly looking for space with my friends.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. That's all right. You. Yeah. This also sounds familiar. You don't want to spend time with your spouse, but with your friends, as my wife did a lot of that as well. Conan, why don't you stay here and people who make me laugh can have dinner with me?

[Matt Gourley]

It was all your friends.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, it was all my friends. Yeah. It was. You guys.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes. It was always saying, I got missing meeting Matt and Sona.

[Matt Gourley]

The best times.

[Conan O'Brien]

The hunky dory. That bar on the corner. Sony. You like to travel? You like to go away and have a good time.

[Sona Movsesian]

I do. I like taking the boys and Tack and I go somewhere.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

For the holidays this year we're thinking about, you know, just taking a trip to, you know, Lake Arrowhead for. For a week or something. You know, just somewhere nearby.

[Conan O'Brien]

Lake Arrowhead. That'd be beautiful. It would. And occurred to me recently what happens because you've got a lovely home. You guys have a beautiful home. You've done a very nice restoration on it. What happens to your home when you guys are away?

[Sona Movsesian]

It just sits there. It just sits there.

[Conan O'Brien]

It shouldn't. It shouldn't. Think about it. If you host. Okay. If you host with Airbnb while you're away, it's basically like you're getting paid to travel.

[Sona Movsesian]

Exactly.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, it's genius.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

So don't leave money on the table the next time you're out of town. When you're away, your home could be an Air B&B. Yeah. It's a cool idea. Think about it.

[Sona Movsesian]

I will.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I've got good ideas. Your home, AKA your future. Airbnb might be worth more than you think. I think yours would be worth a lot because you guys did a beautiful job on it.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thank you. I hope so.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

You should fire them.

[Conan O'Brien]

A monster. If I could. There's no camera. I can. I've looked, looked for the tape. Whoever did it must pay. And I want to say to that person, if I found them and I saw them eating that flower that they cut out of the middle cake, I'd say, how do you sleep at night? Yeah, how do you sleep at night? And you know what? I think I know what they'd say. They'd say, Mattress Firm. Yeah, that's the problem. They'd turn it into an ad.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's interesting that you would know what they would say, but you have no idea what.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

I love being able to give stuff back if I don't like it.

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[Sona Movsesian]

That is actually pretty sweet.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Alejandra Trigueros]

It is. I do have mental breakdowns a bit often, to be honest, but I'm still sort of managing sanity.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I can make it look like I'm sane.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, no, I do that too. Yeah, I do that all the time.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Really? Do you? Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

Well, not so.

[Conan O'Brien]

Not so good. The wheels are coming off the trolley so it must be hard to balance all of that is what I'm guessing. It's just hard to.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah. I don't get a lot of free time but sometimes self care just isn't so easy and you have to make time for yourself or else I feel a lot more guilty when I lose my patience. Because I haven't had any oxygen or space. And when I go out or go for a massage or go for friends. So it's really important.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, there's an old saying that when you're on an airplane and the oxygen masks drop down, you've got to put yours on first before you put it on the child.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I also can't help.

[Conan O'Brien]

And my theory has always been, I take both masks, I put both masks on. A child's got smaller lungs. They'll figure it out. They don't need as much, right? And God forbid. But you can get another child somewhere. So that's always been my point.

[Sona Movsesian]

You can get another child somewhere.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I don't know. You know what I mean? Whatever. They come along. So my point, Alejandra, is you need to take much more time for yourself. The children will figure it out. Do you know what I mean? You need. You're working very hard. You gave birth to them. Check. I think that's enough.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Right?

[Conan O'Brien]

And I think you should be having dinner starting at nine. Then I think you shouldn't feel any guilt. I think you should hit the clubs afterwards and you'll see the kids.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

See, I'm too old for that now.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, you'll see. You're too old. I just got to the clubs. Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yes, I am.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, no. I just hit the age when I think I'm ready to go to the clubs. I never went to the clubs before. I missed out, and I want to go to the clubs now.

[Matt Gourley]

Are you talking about, like, golf clubs?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I'm talking about the clubs.

[Sona Movsesian]

Did you think you were too young before to go? Like, when you were like.

[Conan O'Brien]

I just didn't know where they were.

[Sona Movsesian]

No one told you where they were?

[Conan O'Brien]

People were very evasive when I said, where's the clubs? And they'd be like, I don't know. We gotta go. And they were all dressed in. They had glow sticks and stuff. I never went to a club. And now, I think, is the time. Once I hit 60, I thought, now's the time to hit the clubs.

[Matt Gourley]

Better late than never.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

The sweet spot. Sona, are you doing any clubbing? Having twins? That's intense.

[Sona Movsesian]

I'm not, but it did take me a while to get back to, like, the thing. And then a couple days ago, I had. Not a couple days. A couple weeks ago, I hit a milestone where I threw up from drinking too much. And I was like, I remember that feeling. Another time.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hey, Mom. Congratulations.

[Sona Movsesian]

And then very recently, I. I was. I. I was out with a friend. I got Too high. I had to leave my car there and I took a lift home.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I love that.

[Sona Movsesian]

I'm back, baby.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're back.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

That's being young again.

[Matt Gourley]

Young and hippo children are nowhere to be found.

[Conan O'Brien]

But you're back.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you, I go out and then Tack will stay home with the. With the boys.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah. Because you've got to get.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

You doing any.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, that was it.

[Conan O'Brien]

His club is probably a historical society where they talk about, well, you know, Eisenhower's contributions to the highway system in the 1950s in America.

[Matt Gourley]

I could get into that.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

He is so very cultured. That is true.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, no, I don't go to clubs. They come to me.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice. They sure do. He thinks grubhub is a club.

[Matt Gourley]

It rhymes, doesn't it?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. He thinks that when he gets his sandwich delivered.

[Matt Gourley]

Club Grubhub.

[Conan O'Brien]

Alejandra, if. Let's say, you and I were to hang out, let's say, and this is all theoretical, but let's say I were in Madrid and you and I were to hang out, how would you want me to help you? How could I assist you? How could I improve your life?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

So. I would love to. Since I'm obsessed with food and American comedy, it would be amazing for me if we shared a meal. One of those long meals. Maybe lunch, if you don't want to have dinner. So.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, dinner sounds good. Dinner sounds good.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Oh, well, then dinner.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Because we're both young and hip and club.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you so much for saying that. So you're a young, attractive woman who is willing, who thinks that I'd be the perfect guy to have a late dinner with in Madrid and then hit the clubs. Is that what you're saying?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Why not?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, why not?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Hold on, let me take out my list here. No, but, like, by having dinner with me, you'd make me laugh because you want to.

[Conan O'Brien]

When I was single, a shrug and a why not? Was the best I could get. What is Spanish for how do you say in Spain? How do you say, why not? Yeah. Porque no. So, Ira, I mean, I think if I had grown up in Madrid, my adolescence and all through my 20s and 30s, would have been a lot of women going, porque no? Was it.

[Matt Gourley]

Was it Liza, will you marry me?

[Conan O'Brien]

Why not? Yeah. That was in our vows. Her. Her vow. Her. She said, why not? I said, I do. She said, why not?

[Matt Gourley]

I don't. Not.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, Yeah. I would ask you which. Which connects with the question that I wanted to ask you to. Well, do a Bit of your thing. Because it makes me laugh. And also ask you the question. Making me laugh and sharing your wisdom. My question is, since you have such a big legacy in American comedy and, like, you have such a demanding job, you were doing a show every day.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

And plus, it's late night, so how do you like, when you had kids with. And you're also a family man, and you're known for being a discreet celebrity that hasn't, you know, had any horrible stuff with the press? Like, you haven't had any talk of gerbils.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, right. We suppressed all talk of gerbils. It was a monitor lizard, and I paid that off. He gets $50,000 a year to keep his goddamn mouth shut.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, it was Leo.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my God. The scales are the best part. Oh.

[Matt Gourley]

You know, when those things get scared, their tails pop off.

[Conan O'Brien]

You bet they do. Oh, no. Oh, my God. What? An orgasm for you or the lizard? I think the. I'll say it was for me. But the lizard didn't look unhappy. Let's just say we both smoked a cigarette afterwards. Anyway, Alejandra, we somehow went astray. We. I don't know how you took me down this road, but. So your question. You. You said a lot of nice things for me, but you didn't quite. What is the question?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Yeah, the question is, when you have kids and your family grew, how do you manage coming to terms the fact that you were gonna miss out on stuff at home with your wife and the kids or at some fancy party at work? Because to balance it all, you need to miss out on stuff here and there. So how was that for you?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I have an agent and a manager, and they did a lot of checking in on my children. Gavin Palone, Rick Rosen. And they would check in on the kids, and they would occasionally text me and say, the boy seems good. The girl seems sad.

[Sona Movsesian]

The boy.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then we would get into the financials about, you know, how the business was doing and the ratings and things like that. I have to say, all joking aside, I hit the jackpot with my wife, Liza, because she is an impeccable mom, and she just did an incredible job. And so I did miss out on things because I was working a lot. I tried to be there for important stuff, but, yeah, there were. It really helps to have a partner who is fantastic. And it sounds like your husband a lot uncovered there. Yeah. And it sounds like your husband does a great job. And so my. My rule is find an amazing partner and then totally screw them over. Leave them with the kids. And eat as late as possible in Madrid. That's my rule.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I'm good.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Now, who do you. Now, do you have close family that you dine with as well?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I do. My obsession with food came from my dad. My dad is to say obsessed would be selling a church. He talks about nothing other than food. The minute he learned my husband was from Poland, the first thing he mentioned was some soup they make in some region. He knows so much about food and wine and all the restaurants that are gonna open and that then become trendy after.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Conversations in my house were nothing other than, like, this sauce. Books about food everywhere. All the good critics books. So, yeah, I have a lot of close friends. My brother's a chef at a fancy restaurant. So I have a lot of people that I dine with at this Alejandra.

[Conan O'Brien]

Theoretically, if I were to be in Madrid and if you and I were to go out to a very late dinner at a nice restaurant, would your father come as well? And how would that go?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I don't think I would invite him.

[Conan O'Brien]

Why?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Because he would then start talking to you about food, Monopolize the conversation.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, wait, are you saying that someone could monopolize a conversation with me? You really think so? This is.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

He's a worthy adversary.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. So that's why I would insist that he come along. You tell. You tell Papa Blabbermouth that the big guns are coming to town. Okay. I think I'm a world champion gabber. And I would insist that he come to dinner.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

My mom would swear that it isn't possible to outdo my dad.

[Conan O'Brien]

I bet I can out talk your dad. I bet I can talk. And here's the great thing. Your dad knows a lot. He has great knowledge. I know nothing about food. I know nothing about the food in Madrid. And yet I will talk three times as much as your father about this stuff I know nothing about.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

But your stuff is funnier, though, so.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I don't. I'm not worried about that part.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I think.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know who this guy is, but I think I got him covered on comedy. But I will talk much more than your father. I will dominate the conversation, and I will make it all about me. That's my promise to you. Doesn't that sound fun?

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Maybe him and you should go. And I am not invited?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, I need you there. I need you there as the buffer. Okay. I need you there as the buffer.

[Sona Movsesian]

So.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Okay, maybe we invite him. Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I think it's you, me, your father. I think it's A very late dinner, traditional dinner at a nice restaurant in Madrid. And I will dominate the conversation. And I will also ask my wife for some wisdom about raising children because I, you know, she's the one that knows. I'm not even. I can't remember their names right now. Stuart. Stuart. One of Stu. No, that's. No, that's.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Oh, come on. Even I do.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's Family Guy.

[Sona Movsesian]

Stewie.

[Conan O'Brien]

Stewie. Yeah. That's a family. That's from a cartoon. I'll find out their names. I'm going to be able to give you great advice on raising children. Okay.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm delighted to meet you, Alejandra. And I do hope we get to have a meal someday. I want your father there because he's not going to get one word out of his boca. Eduardo, that's mouth. Anyway, Alejandra, very nice to see you.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

And very nice to meet you. Thank you, guys.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're a very impressive person. Congratulations on all of your achievements, and I hope we cross paths. That would be fun.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

I hope so. Thank you, guys. Bye to the three of you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Bye.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Thank you for all the entertainment and laughs.

[Matt Gourley]

Bye, Elana.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Bye.

[Conan O'Brien]

Bye.

[Alejandra Trigueros]

Bye.

[Matt Gourley]

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