Cocoland

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend – "Cocoland"

Date: December 11, 2025
Host: Conan O’Brien
Guests/Regulars: Matt Gourley, Sona Movsesian, Margaret (Fan & Theme Park Designer)

Main Theme / Purpose

In this lively and imaginative episode, Conan, Sona, and Matt are joined by Margaret, a professional theme park and experience designer. Together, they swap stories about theme parks, reminisce about hilarious past theme park jobs, and brainstorm what a "Cocoland" (a Conan-themed theme park) would look like. The conversation is playful, inventive, and full of jokes, poking fun at celebrity ego, the theme park industry, and each other’s peculiarities, while spotlighting Margaret’s unique career and love of the genre.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Fan Introduction & Theme Park Enthusiasm

[01:24–02:52]

• Margaret shares her trajectory from childhood visits to Tokyo Disneyland to designing theme parks and museum experiences professionally, including work on "Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge."
• Her favorite Conan content is the unscripted staff interactions, not just celebrity interviews.

2. Matt Gourley’s Time as a Disney Trash Can

[04:47–07:08]

• Matt describes working at Disneyland, most notably as “Push the Talking Trash Can.” Dressed normally, he remote-controls and provides the trash can’s voice, often going rogue with jokes.
  • Notable quote:
    "My hand's in the bag, and I can remote control the trash can. And I have a secret microphone in my hand." — Matt Gourley [05:35]
  • He would break out of the approved script when managers weren’t watching, making the trash can ask existential or subversive questions.
• Conan and Sona riff on Matt’s role, with Conan imagining the trash can “running and screaming, ‘kill me, I cannot die.’” [06:55]

3. Theme Park Inhibitions & Edibles

[08:35–09:53]

• Sona admits her enjoyment of visiting theme parks while high on gummies, leading to comic banter.
  • Notable quote:
    “You could have wandered around a split level garage and had just as much of a visual experience.” — Conan [09:42]
• Margaret proposes a "Clueless Theme Park Goer" podcast episode, sending Conan, Sona, and Matt to various theme parks around the world. [10:02]

4. Planning a “Guerilla” Podcast in a Theme Park

[10:26–11:05]

• Matt wonders if Disney would allow them to record a podcast on-site without formal permission. Margaret, as an insider, delivers the reality: “The moment you walk in, especially with Conan, they’re going to jump on that immediately.” [10:52]
  • Notable quote:
    "I'm like a guy who's passed a bad check in every restaurant in town." — Conan [10:58]

5. Unusual Theme Parks: The Dark Side

[15:25–16:12]

• Margaret reveals her affection for Haupar Villa in Singapore, an amusement park themed entirely on gruesome Chinese mythological punishments in hell, much to everyone’s fascination and horror.
  • Notable quote:
    "It is the inverse of It's a Small World. It's not optimistic, it's not cheerful." — Conan [16:12]

6. Celebrities & Theme Parks: The Expansion

[16:39–17:18]

• Brief discussion on a growing trend: celebrities opening their own theme parks (e.g., Nate Bargatze’s venture, Dollywood).
• Margaret: “If Walt Disney did it, why not anyone else?”

7. Dreaming up Cocoland / Conan Land

[17:29–23:34]

• Group envisions a Conan-themed park, with Margaret designing rides tailored to each host's personality:
  • Conan’s ride:
    A "ginger-colored high-speed roller coaster"—unpredictable and slightly unsafe, incorporating his signature string dance. [18:24–19:01]
    • “They get off, and their skin is dry, and they’re questioning some of their decisions in life.” — Conan [19:06]
  • Sona’s ride:
    A lazy river with edibles, plush gondolas, “scenes of Magic Mike,” and favorite reality shows. End with snacks (hummus!) and ignore any calls for help from a robotic Conan. [19:29–21:23]
    • “You exit through a gift shop, eat hummus, and come back on the ride.” — Margaret [20:38]
  • Matt’s ride:
    A dark, “Haunted Mansion”–style omnimover in a leather armchair, with whiskey, vinyl music, mid-century retro decor, and flea market scenes. Every rider gets a cat. [21:35–23:03]
    • "When you get in, you have a whiskey or a cocktail in hand... through a thrilling ride of your imagination and dreams." — Margaret [22:02]
• All rides crash together at the end—a metaphor for the podcast itself, per Conan and Matt.
  • “All three rides collide at the end...and there’s some injuries every time.” — Conan [23:06]

8. A Happy Ending: The S’Mores Picnic

[23:25–23:50]

• Margaret envisions park guests and hosts relaxing around a bonfire after the “crash,” reinforcing the family/friendship theme.

9. Fun with Star Wars Blue vs. Green Milk

[24:26–24:39]

• Matt quizzes Margaret on her favorite Galaxy’s Edge beverage; she prefers Green Milk (“tastes like Fruity Pebbles”).

10. Fan Encounter Flashback

[25:28–26:54]

• Margaret recounts meeting Conan years ago in Studio City, nervously chasing him for a photo after dinner, which he warmly obliged.
  • Notable quote:
    “Now, once you get to know me, Margaret, your life will be a hell. But when you’re a stranger, I couldn’t be more pleasing.” — Conan [26:59]

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Memorable Quotes

• Margaret: “I help to tell the stories in built places and built environments.” [02:52]
• Conan: “Celebrities just get in the way. Let’s face it.” [02:26]
• Matt: “I just look like a creep, you know? And my hand’s in the bag, and I can remote control the trash can.” [05:35]
• Conan: “You’re either touching yourself or delighting millions with your banter. I just don’t know which. Or both.” [06:12]
• Sonam: “Can you get us in for free? And can I bring my edibles?” [09:17]
• Margaret: “Going to theme parks releases all those inhibitions so you can be whoever you want to be.” [08:35]
• Conan: “I act that way at The Gap.” [08:49]
• Margaret: “It’s kind of my dream, my life journey, you know, to work in theme parks and build other experiences too...” [03:54]

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Notable Moments & Highlights (with Timestamps)

• [02:16–02:34] Margaret on preferring Conan’s staff segments to celebrity interviews.
• [05:03–06:41] Matt’s detailed trash can story and Conan’s gruesome hypothetical script.
• [10:13] Margaret’s pitch for “Clueless Theme Park Goer” episodes featuring the trio.
• [16:00–16:19] Introduction of the grotesque Singapore park, Haupar Villa.
• [18:24–20:34] Margaret’s ride concepts for Conan and Sona; discussion gets sillier and more personal.
• [21:35–22:59] Matt’s fantasy armchair ride—cats, whiskey, and flea markets.
• [23:06–23:20] Conan’s vision for a “collision” of all park rides.
• [23:37–23:50] Margaret wraps things up with a heartwarming, marshmallow-toasting vision of friendship.

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Conclusion

This episode serves as both a tribute to the playful, childlike wonder inspired by theme parks and a comic fantasy of what might happen if the Conan team built a park in their own image. With Margaret’s expertise anchoring their wild ideas, Conan, Sona, and Matt riff off each other’s quirks, dreams, and self-deprecating humor. Lively, funny, and packed with genuinely clever ideas, it’s an episode that blends sincere celebration of fans with the absurd, distinctive Conan O’Brien tone.

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Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Conan o' Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com callkonan okay, let's get started.

[Producer/Announcer]

Hi, Margaret.

[Conan O'Brien]

Welcome to Conan O' Brien needs a Fan. Hi, Margaret.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I can't.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

That. The day is finally here.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, I've been thinking about this, too. The day is finally here. What day? What are you talking about? Oh, the day when we talk.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

The day. Yes, the day that I get to meet all of you. Hello, Conan, Matt, Sona. Hi, chums.

[Conan O'Brien]

Good to see you. How are you?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I'm so excited.

[Conan O'Brien]

Here's what I know about you. Your name is Margaret, and other than that, I don't know much. Tell us your story, Margaret. Who are you? What's your deal? What's happening?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, gosh. Well.

I've been a fan of yours for a long time. I've watched all. My gateway drug to Conan was watching your remotes. So back in the day when you were in New York. And.

For me, I'm not so much interested in the celebrities so much as when you interact with your staff. I think that's the most hilarious. I think that you bring out the funny in everyone.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, that's so nice for you to say. And that's. I think that's been. Those are some of my favorite moments, too. Celebrities just get in the way. Let's face it.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

They do.

[Conan O'Brien]

They do.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I'm like, come on, I want to go back to Matt and Sona and, you know, Dr. Arroyo and everyone else, you know, Jordan Schlansky and Eduardo.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's where we part companies with Jordan Schlansky. But I see kind of what you're saying. And what do you do? What do you do for a living?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Well, I'm a designer of theme parks and museums and experiences, so I help to tell the stories in built places and built environments. And one of the big projects that I worked on was the Star wars themed Land Margaret, which opened years ago. And yes, I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what? Matt Gorley's eyes just turned into those.

[Matt Gourley]

Margaret, stop flirting with me.

[Conan O'Brien]

There are cherries spinning by. It's like a slot mach.

Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong. And now coins are coming out his mouth. You just hit his mental jackpot.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

What was that?

[Matt Gourley]

I was. When Bugs Bunny drinks alcohol, he goes, you know.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, I know it. No, I knew exactly what he was talking about. You're just uneducated and young. Yeah. So, Margaret, this is amazing. You design theme parks. That sounds like a dream job that would be impossible to have, but you have it.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, no, please. I mean, it is a dream job. And when I first went into a Disney theme park was when I was seven years old. I went to the Tokyo Disneyland, so I don't speak Japanese. But when I went through it, it just blew my mind. I was like, who does this? Who actually creates these stories that I couldn't walk into and these worlds that I go into. Right. So going into something like Haunted Mansion for the first time and pirates and, like, you know, it's a Small World. Like, all of these things, it just blew my little mind up. And so it was kind of my dream, my life journey, you know, to work in theme parks and build other experiences, too, like museums. I worked in Airbnb. I know. You did an Airbnb experience. All of these things. Right. So this is really. It truly is a dream job.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have to Margaret. And this is a, you know, a moral must. This is a necessity. I must give the floor over to Mr. Matt Gourley because Matt spent years, several years working at a Disney theme park. Is that right? Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

I worked there for.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is a proud part of your life.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I'm not ashamed.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm not ashamed. It's just I just lost a little bit of myself there.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's not true. What are you talking about?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Was it when you were a trash can?

[Matt Gourley]

Okay, well, let him.

[Conan O'Brien]

Let him tell the story.

[Matt Gourley]

I have plenty of other embarrassing things there.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, but you were the voice. Were you in the. There's a talking trash can at Disneyland.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And you were a talking trash can. Does that mean you're in the receptacle, or are you. I honestly don't know. I'm asking you real questions.

[Matt Gourley]

The way it works is it looks like a typical metal trash can with the push flap, you know, but there's only half a trash can in it. And below the lower half is a, like, fully automated robot. So I'm hidden in the crowd, just wearing street clothes, and I have a bag over my shoulder. I just look like a creep, you know? And my hand's in the bag, and I can remote control the trash can. And I have a secret microphone in my hand.

[Conan O'Brien]

One hand's in the bag.

[Matt Gourley]

I know my one hand's up at my mouth and one hand's in the bag.

[Conan O'Brien]

So if I see this guy. If I see this guy at a bus stop, he's either a pervert or he's operating a Disney trash can.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You'Re either touching yourself or delighting millions with your banter. I just don't know which. Or both. So did your trash can have a personality?

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah, his name was Push the Talking Trash Can. But there was a certain amount of mandated personality, but I wouldn't usually adhere to that.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

So I was usually.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're a rebel.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

I was.

[Matt Gourley]

In this case, I would bump the other trash cans and say, like, sheila, Sheila, why did you divorce me? And things like that. This was when the management wasn't around.

[Conan O'Brien]

Did they. Did you ever get a talking to? Because you were going twice.

[Matt Gourley]

And I would try to be very savvy about when the managers were there, or I would chase the kids for their churros. Give me your churro. Give me your churro. And that kind of thing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right? Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

It's just because you get bored of the same old.

[Conan O'Brien]

What I would do is have the trash can run around and scream, kill me. Kill me. I cannot die. I cannot die.

[Matt Gourley]

I got close to that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. That's what I would do.

[Matt Gourley]

And the kids would kick it all the time. It was, like, kind of demoralizing, too.

[Conan O'Brien]

Could you talk back to the kids?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yes.

[Matt Gourley]

I would say, why are you parents? Why are you letting your children kick me? Why are you doing this now? Some of them would stop it and some would just laugh, right? Yeah.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Did you only play the. A trash can or did you play.

[Matt Gourley]

I did so many different things.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're a trash can saying, why are you not treating me with respect?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Margaret designed Star wars, and you're talking about playing a trash can now.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, okay.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

But listen, sorry, I don't it's like.

[Conan O'Brien]

We'Re equating the two. Star wars is another one of. Star wars is another one of your loves. Sure.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And so, Margaret, I'm curious. First of all, you've been to this Star wars experience, haven't you? Yeah.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

It's amazing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. And you've been to as well?

[Advertiser/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. And I didn't get around to it. I go to only presidential museums.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

We have to change that. Conan, I know you hate theme parks and I know you have a thing against Disney and I know that you're not a star.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wait a minute. Did you say I have a thing against Disney?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

What's your beef?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I just love. There's a talking trash can at the Harry Truman Museum in Missouri. And I love going there and having conversations. He's kind of salty.

[Matt Gourley]

I know that.

[Conan O'Brien]

And he's like, I'm from the show me state, you know, and I had to fire MacArthur. And I'm like, take it easy, trash can. So I just have my other interests. But no, I'm not spreading this rumor that I'm anti Disney. I embrace all corporations.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I think you need to go to more theme parks because it really, you know, you're like me. You're a grown up child. Right. So going to theme parks releases that all those inhibitions so you can be whoever you want to be.

[Conan O'Brien]

You don't understand. I act that way at the Gap.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

I go. My inhibitions are released. You know, I went to the eye doctor with Sona and I behaved like a total fool.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

That's very nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

And put on a one man show for everybody. So I don't need a lot of help getting me into that.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

But I do love amusement parks.

[Conan O'Brien]

You do?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I do. I think that amusement parks are awesome and I think it would be really fun if all three of us went. And maybe we went for free because Margaret did. Can you get us in for free? And can I bring my edibles?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, you. You know. Oh my gosh. You're. You're bringing in all the things that I want to talk about in do it.

[Conan O'Brien]

How many people go to theme parks? High. Do you think? What's the percentage?

[Matt Gourley]

How many people don't go to theme parks?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

A lot.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, so that's the thing. Cause Sona told me that she used to get loaded up on gummies and then go to Disneyland for the day or Six Flags or. What is it? What else?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

You went to Universal.

[Conan O'Brien]

Universal. And I don't even know why there needed to be a theme park there because I think you could have wandered around in the state you were in. You could have wandered around a split level garage and had just as much of a visual experience.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

All right, you know what? I'm trying to get us a free trip to Disneyland and you're just harsh to my buzz, bro.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, sorry to squash your mellow.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I think in addition to bringing back clueless gamer, you need to have a theme park goer, a clueless theme park goer. And just have all three of you go.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's a really good idea.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Different theme parks. And all over the world. All over the world. Go to all these different theme parks and just let you three loose and do all the things. I think that's gonna be super entertaining for us to watch.

[Matt Gourley]

Would Disney have an issue if we just gorilla did a podcast? We wouldn't carry anything like obtrusive. Just little lapel mics or something.

[Conan O'Brien]

They're not. They don't. They don't even have a legal team at Disney. That's what I've heard. They're just very free and easy.

[Matt Gourley]

That's what I'm saying, though. It's better to ask forgiveness than permission, I would assume, for something like that.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Right.

[Matt Gourley]

Because they'd never let us do it.

[Conan O'Brien]

The answer is no. No.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Yeah.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Margaret would know.

[Matt Gourley]

I feel like.

[Conan O'Brien]

Margaret. Yeah. Why you're here. I think it would be a no.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

The moment you walk in with, especially with Conan, they're. They're going to jump on that immediately.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. They're going to recognize I'm like a guy who's passed a bad check in every restaurant in town.

[Matt Gourley]

If we have a hidden M, they wouldn't know. You know what I mean?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

But now you're talking about it and I think this is gonna. This is gonna go out.

[Matt Gourley]

But there's nothing illegal with recording your voice in the podcast. They shot a whole movie there, remember?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Well, there's a lot of YouTubers who do it. Right. They'll go into any theme park and talk about it. And they're carrying all.

[Matt Gourley]

I've recorded a podcast. Yeah, we had that. My wife and I did a Disney podcast about working at theme parks and we did it, you know, without asking.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, but you can go under the radar pretty easily after that. I know that I can't because I'm the Sir Lawrence Olivier of comedy.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Oh, God.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't even know how that works. Said it and it doesn't make any sense.

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[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

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[Conan O'Brien]

I mean it did for the first time I noticed you really clicking in on your job.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

It is really great.

[Conan O'Brien]

And again, louder please.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

I don't have a lot of things in my life I can be proud of. A being a Magenta Status member is.

[Conan O'Brien]

One of you can belong.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

Exactly.

[Conan O'Brien]

And it's just what are the perks and benefits?

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

Like I said before, uninterrupted service from the Philippines or wherever we are in the world, which is fantastic.

[Conan O'Brien]

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Hey, holidays are upon us. They really are.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know about you, but holidays make me think of Miller Time. Yeah, me too. Really? Same with you.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

My favorite light beer.

[Conan O'Brien]

I look around, I see my friends, my buddies, my pals.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yeah, your entourage.

[Conan O'Brien]

My entourage. And I just all the guys I used to play football with in my mind.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yeah, in your mind.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I couldn't, didn't really play football. But anyway. And I know, hey man, it's Miller Time. Yeah, you know why? Because it's a taste you can depend on. You know what you're getting.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

It's true.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I have a question. What's your favorite theme park?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, well, I mean, I do have to say Disneyland, but I grew up in Singapore and when I was a little girl, I went to this very unusual amusement park called Haupar Villa. And it's not a place that people would know about, but it's all about, you know, Chinese myths and like legends and all this. And they would carve these like full size sculptures and dioramas of what they would do to you if you end up going to hell.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, this sounds like I have to see this.

[Matt Gourley]

Don't go high and don't get high.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

And go there and pulling out your guts.

[Matt Gourley]

It's like the anti small world.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Yeah, it is.

[Conan O'Brien]

It is. It is. It's the inverse of It's a small world. It's not optimistic, it's not cheerful.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

It's a cautionary tale. It's a cautionary tale of what could happen to you if you lie and.

[Producer/Announcer]

Cheat, murder, love, loathing.

[Matt Gourley]

A world of.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a world of constant pain in your rear.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

What?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Oh my God. What do you call Disney lords? Yeah.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

They don't have our number. We keep moving.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I think they have every number.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, I feel like I'm starting To hear about celebrities making theme parks. Nate Bragazzi was on the podcast not long ago, and he's gonna make.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

A.

[Conan O'Brien]

Theme park that he wants to be very family friendly and fun. And I think it's gonna be in Tennessee, outside Nashville. And it sounded like a great idea. He's taking it very seriously. And he was telling us he's meeting with some people at Disney to get advice. And so this is becoming a thing. Is celebrities having theme parks. Dollywood. Yeah, that's been around for a while. Do you see this as a new trend?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

It's not necessarily a trend. I mean, it's been around for a while. I mean, if Walt Disney, you know, did it. Right. Like, why not anyone else?

[Matt Gourley]

I think I know where this is going.

[Conan O'Brien]

Conan Land, so.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Exactly. Yeah. So Conan land.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Is a thing. Cocoland. However, you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, it sounds like they're already doing it in Singapore.

You get on a boat, you go through every stage of hell, and then you come out and you have a prominent I vein.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Things like sex talk. That's hell for you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Not, you know, getting a B on a test.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

No.

[Conan O'Brien]

Having a conversation with someone where you lock eyes. Being complimented. Being complimented. If you go through one part where someone says, I enjoy your work.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Well, I think that all of you should individually have a ride. And I have ideas, but be honest. Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

Start with Matt.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So I think, well, who should I start with first? Because I can go.

I'll start with Conan.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So I think Conan's ride is a ginger colored high speed roller coaster that goes up and down, twists and turns, completely unexpected.

[Matt Gourley]

And it never ends.

[Conan O'Brien]

We have to have.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

And it never ends. And there has to be the string dance involved in it somehow. So make sure.

[Conan O'Brien]

So it shakes erratically at times. It's a very. Is it an unsafe ride?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

It could be.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Like the tether clips and then you fall like Tower of Terror and you fall.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

There's a free fall.

[Conan O'Brien]

So it's true. Right.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

And it could be great. Yeah. And so I think that that would be a really good one for you.

[Conan O'Brien]

As long as when you get off, your skin is dry.

And you're. And you're questioning some of your decisions in life. That's the only thing I want people to. I don't want them to have that rush of endorphins when they get off. I want them to just sort of feel queasy, dry skin. Again, prominent I vein and just worried. Worried about past choices. Let's move on to Sona Sona. What's her ride gonna be?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Okay, so, Sona, I'm envisioning, like, a lazy river boat ride.

[Conan O'Brien]

You had me at lazy.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So you're gonna. Every visitor who steps in, they get a gummy.

[Tyler Redicure]

Yes.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

They go on the ride, they get a gummy, and then they're gonna have plush seating on this, like, gondola type of ride. And you're going through all of the scenes, all of your biggest dreams. So everything from, like, scenes of, like, Magic Mike, you know, just going there and just music, beautiful music, and all of your favorite shows, all your reality shows coming to life around you.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

This is great.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, and there's a bucket of, like, hummus and chips. No, but you love hummus.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

I do.

[Conan O'Brien]

You had it yesterday.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Why do you keep bringing it up?

[Conan O'Brien]

Because I just.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

See, I picture talking about magic mind.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, but on the. And if you're loaded up on gummies, you're sitting there, there's a bucket of hummus, and you. Doesn't it sound good?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Yeah, it does sound.

[Conan O'Brien]

And a really good bread, and you're just, hush. It's hush. I know.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I like.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

I love my ride. Keep going.

[Conan O'Brien]

There's more.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Well, maybe. And it could be that, you know, you exit through a gift shop and there you could have the hummus and all of that, too, and then come back and come back on the ride, you know, so it's. It's. It's however you want it to be. Right? Like, and that's kind of like your way. I feel like it's like, you know what? I'm just gonna do this right now. I'm not gonna do that right now. Right. Maybe every once. Once in a while, we'll hear a Conan, and the speaker being like, sona, Sona, I need this. Or, you know, whatever. But then you ignore it. You just ignore it.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Go with the flow. Literally, go with the flow.

[Conan O'Brien]

There's a sort of robotic cone, and it pops out. Every now and then it starts to say, I need your assistance with. And then you can just push it aside and it goes.

And melts away.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

Right.

[Conan O'Brien]

I love that you have, like, a little wand, and you can just do a flick of your wand, and I disappear. Okay, Gorly. I gotta hear Gorly.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

This is awesome.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

All right, so, Gorlie, I'm thinking it has to be a dark ride. And when we say dark ride, it's a fully enclosed indoor ride. And I'm thinking like an omnimover, like, Haunted Mansion.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So an omnimover is constantly flowing. Very smooth. And instead of that, the dune buggy, it'll be like a really plush leather upholstered armchair.

[Matt Gourley]

I love this.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

And when you get in, you have a whiskey or a cocktail in hand. Oh, my God, this is great. And as you go in, it's kind of mid century retro. You'll hear vinyl records, the scratchy sound. You'll hear your voice gorly in the speakers. And you're taking everyone on this very calm and smooth journey through a thrilling ride of what your imagination and your dreams are too. So maybe it's going through a flea market.

[Matt Gourley]

And maybe you've incepted into her your version of me.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, I have.

[Matt Gourley]

But it's not.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Everyone's wearing tweed. You had a tweed jacket.

[Conan O'Brien]

I love it. I love it. You're just, you're coasting along and you're in like an Eames chair. Like a mid century chair.

[Matt Gourley]

That's right.

[Conan O'Brien]

And all the architecture of the ride is very Craftsman, Right? It's just Pasadena Craftsman.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Exactly.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's nice. This is a great ride. And I love the cocktail idea.

[Matt Gourley]

And just every rider gets a cat on their lap.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

Yeah.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I love the idea. I love this. My only request, Margaret, is that all three rides collide at the end.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

So the Conan ride smashes into the Goerly, smashes into the Sona. They all smash into the same place, and there's some injuries every time.

[Matt Gourley]

And that's the podcast.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's. Yeah, exactly.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

But we wanted to have a happy ending. And once you crash and collide, you step out and then you have a nice s' mores, chill chums moment.

[Conan O'Brien]

Very good, Margaret. You're very good. You're very good at picnic.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I love. So you're all sitting down and there's a bonfire, and you're all roasting marshmallows and doing. And just meeting all your guests too. Right? And there you can really be a true friend and family.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, green lit.

[Conan O'Brien]

Green lit, I say. Margaret, first of all, delightful talking to you. I love this idea. I will take care of the money. I will get us the money. I can raise this money. And by that I mean I will never make one phone call. I won't do anything. But this is a very cool. It's a cool idea. I like it. And you're a very impressive person and very cool to have you as a fan. I just love that you get to do this for a living and you're clearly amazing at it, so. And you know what? I think Sona's right. I think you should use your pull to get the three of us, you know, some, I don't know, some free tickets to these. Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

I have one last question for you, Margaret. Are you a blue milk or a Green Milk girl?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, you know what? I do have to say more green milk.

[Matt Gourley]

Me too.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Oh, good.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah, it tastes like Fruity Pebbles. Conan, you'd like that.

[Conan O'Brien]

I am proud that I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Well, and if we do go to Disneyland, I meant I want Margaret to come with us.

[Additional Speaker (possibly Matt or Sonam)]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

You'd come with us my way.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Or not just get us tickets, but.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

To come with us.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, that's implied. You would come with us, and maybe if you came with us, we wouldn't need tickets because you'd be the person to know. Yeah.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So I would love that. I would love to bring you guys. Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I want one of the hall of Presidents. Presidents to join us. Maybe Reagan. Whale, whale, whale. Beep, beep, beep, whale, whale, whale. It would come with us. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, whale. And it's just Reagan saying, beep, beep, boop, boop, whale, whale. Beep, beep, boop, boop, whale, whale. It's time to start dropping bombs on Russia. Beep, beep. All right, Margaret, delightful talking to you. Really. Thank you so much.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Yes, thank you so much. Can I show you one other thing, though?

[Conan O'Brien]

Go ahead.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I have a picture of us together.

[Conan O'Brien]

When was that taken?

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

So this was a few years ago.

[Conan O'Brien]

I snuck into your house. Looks like I came into your house at 4 in the morning.

[Matt Gourley]

I saw you sleep in that photo.

[Conan O'Brien]

I know, I know.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

You were in Firefly Bistro in Studio City, and I saw you walk in. I literally saw you walk in with a man.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm allowed to hang out with men. Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

Who's this mysterious bow?

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

No one questioned it. And then you made it suspicious.

[Conan O'Brien]

She said you walked in with a man. My private life is my private life. My wife listens to this podcast, and she can't know that I went to a restaurant with a man.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I. I waited for you to finish your dinner, and I. You know, I've never asked anyone to take a selfie with me. Any celebrity, nothing like that. And my friend saw that I was visibly like, oh, my gosh, it's Conan. Blah, blah. And she. We saw you leave. She grabbed my arm, and she's like, we're taking a picture of Conan. And so we ran after you. You were waiting for your car in the Valley, and I came up to you and said, conan, I'm a huge fan. I'd like to take a picture with you. And you were very nice. And take a picture with you.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think that's. I like to be nice to people if I can. How much did I ask?

[Matt Gourley]

Excuse us.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

You like to what? To strangers?

[Tyler Redicure]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

What's that? Yeah, to strangers I'm very nice.

[Matt Gourley]

Or to whoever this man is.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

Bartholomew, I don't want his name on your lips. Yeah, yeah. I. Yes. Now, once you get to know me, Margaret, your life will be a hell. But when you're a stranger, I couldn't be more pleasing. So I'm glad. I'm glad we had that moment and we'll have another one, because I make repeat appearances all over the world.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

Yes. Yes.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

I hope to see you again and I'll bring all three of you to Disneyland.

[Conan O'Brien]

Very good. Great. Thanks a lot, Margaret.

[Margaret (Fan and Theme Park Designer)]

Thank you.

[Sonam (Sonam of Session)]

Bye.

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