Danny McBride

Summary

Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend – Episode Featuring Danny McBride

Introduction

In this engaging episode of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend, host Conan O’Brien sits down with acclaimed writer, producer, and actor Danny McBride. Released on March 24, 2025, the conversation delves deep into McBride’s illustrious career, personal life, and the intricate balance between comedy and genuine character development.

The Unconventional Gift: The "Dick Light"

The episode kicks off with a humorous anecdote about a quirky gift Danny McBride gave Conan— a novelty "dick light." This light projects a cartoonish male genitalia image, leading to a series of laughs and playful banter between Conan, Danny, and co-host Sona Movsesian.

• Danny McBride [01:42]: "Hi, my name is Danny McBride and I feel very righteous about being O’Brien's friend."
• Conan O'Brien [03:54]: "It's the kind of gift that a lot of his characters would probably have in their pocket."

This light-hearted exchange sets the tone for the episode, showcasing the camaraderie and playful dynamic between the hosts and their guest.

Danny McBride’s Early Career and Breakthrough

Conan reminisces about his first encounter with Danny in 2006 when McBride was an unknown actor starring in The Foot Fist Way. Conan shares how influential figures like Will Ferrell and Adam McKay recognized McBride’s talent, leading to his booking on Conan’s show.

• Conan O'Brien [11:05]: "Back in 2006, you're a complete unknown and you make this movie called the Foot Fist Way."

Danny reflects on the nervously exhilarating experience of his first press interactions and how Conan adeptly played along, creating memorable moments that oscillated between humor and faux scandal.

• Danny McBride [14:10]: "That was the first time I had ever even done press. Like I had never even had an interview before."

Crafting Complex Characters: From Kenny Powers to The Righteous Gemstones

A significant portion of the conversation centers on Danny McBride’s approach to character development. Conan and Danny discuss the depth behind characters like Kenny Powers from Eastbound & Down and the protagonists of Vice Principals and The Righteous Gemstones. They explore how McBride imbues his characters with genuine belief and vulnerability, making them both hilarious and relatable.

• Conan O'Brien [30:10]: "They are gangsters who believe that what they're doing is righteous."
• Danny McBride [31:36]: "Their egos are just unchecked. They’re the butt of the joke."

Danny emphasizes the importance of giving characters flaws and strengths, allowing audiences to connect on a deeper level while still delivering sharp comedic moments.

Personal Background: From Georgia to Charleston

The discussion shifts to Danny McBride’s upbringing in Georgia and California, detailing his experiences living on a prison reservation in Lompoc and later relocating to Virginia. Danny shares how these formative years influenced his comedic style and collaborative spirit.

• Danny McBride [17:07]: "My dad was a guard at the prison there, and so I lived on the prison reservation..."
• Conan O'Brien [43:23]: "Wait, so you live in, like a community with your friends?"

Moving to Charleston, South Carolina, Danny explains the decision to relocate with fellow collaborators to foster a supportive creative environment. This move allowed Danny and his peers to maintain strong professional and personal bonds, essential for their collaborative projects.

• Danny McBride [43:23]: "We are a community with your friends."
• Conan O'Brien [45:14]: "That's amazing."

Collaboration with Walton Goggins and Other Talents

Danny discusses his working relationship with actor Walton Goggins, highlighting how their collaborations have enriched projects like Vice Principals and The Righteous Gemstones. The mutual respect and creative synergy between them are evident, contributing significantly to the success of their endeavors.

• Danny McBride [37:20]: "He was, you know, that I would like to spend some time with him."
• Conan O'Brien [48:16]: "He needs a real actor to do that."

Living in Charleston vs. Los Angeles

A heartfelt segment explores the contrasts between living in Charleston and Los Angeles. Danny shares his motivations for moving to the South, prioritizing a more relaxed lifestyle and family-oriented environment over the fast-paced, often isolating culture of LA.

• Danny McBride [43:57]: "It's insane. I’d never even been there until we shot Vice Principals..."
• Conan O'Brien [49:13]: "One of the things I love about Charleston is when you go downtown, they have the old gas lamps..."

Hobbies and Personal Life

Danny candidly talks about his struggles to find hobbies, humorously detailing failed attempts at grilling and boating. Instead, he highlights his unique hobby of “fighting birds” that prey on his koi pond, showcasing his playful and resilient nature.

• Danny McBride [51:34]: "I need to get hobbies. I don't have hobbies, unfortunately."
• Conan O'Brien [53:37]: "I love that you have a camouflage shirt and anyone who sees this on video, you're wearing a total camouflage hunting shirt."

Surviving Personal Challenges

The conversation touches on personal challenges, including Conan’s experience with a house fire and how it parallels Danny’s own losses. This segment underscores the genuine friendship Conan seeks through the podcast, moving beyond superficial celebrity interactions.

• Conan O'Brien [67:34]: "I just gotta keep my mouth shut."
• Danny McBride [67:49]: "I'm glad we got that back and we'll get other things back, you'll see."

Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

As the episode nears its end, Conan and Danny reflect on the significance of friendships, both old and new, emphasizing the value of genuine connections amidst their busy and often tumultuous careers.

• Conan O'Brien [58:31]: "I'm really happy for you. And I look forward to the day that I intrude on you in South Carolina."
• Danny McBride [66:29]: "Yes, it did."

The episode concludes with playful exchanges about replacing lost items and maintaining their enduring friendship, encapsulating the essence of Conan’s quest to find real and lasting friendships through his podcast.

Notable Quotes

1. Conan O’Brien: "You need a real actor to do that." [48:08]
2. Danny McBride: "Their egos are just unchecked. They’re the butt of the joke." [31:36]
3. Conan O’Brien: "They are gangsters who believe that what they're doing is righteous." [30:10]
4. Danny McBride: "I need to get hobbies. I don't have hobbies, unfortunately." [51:34]
5. Conan O’Brien: "I'm really happy for you. And I look forward to the day that I intrude on you in South Carolina." [58:31]

Conclusion

This episode of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend offers an in-depth look into Danny McBride’s life and career, blending humor with heartfelt insights. Listeners are treated to an authentic conversation that reveals the complexities behind McBride’s beloved characters and the importance of genuine friendships in navigating the entertainment industry.

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Sona Movsesian]

I can't stand people who think that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, me neither. Those are my least favorite kind of people. In reality, it's accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. This is a flawed concept. 99%?

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah. It's almost all of it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, almost. But just 1% away. So maybe now you'll think twice before judging a book by its cover. Hello. Unless it's a celebrity cookbook, just stay away from those. Celebrities can't cook. In that case, judge, you know what I mean? Whenever a celebrity is making a cake, I think that's a bad cake. Based on the February 2024 Nielsen report. Learn more at discovery.com credit card.

[Danny McBride]

Hi, my name is Danny McBride and I feel very righteous about being O'Brien's friend.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice, nice. And a little plug for the series Righteous Gemstones. I like it. It's well done, thought out.

[Danny McBride]

Walking blues climb the fence Books and.

[Conan O'Brien]

Pens I can tell that we are gonna be friends Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a friend. Joined here customarily by Sodom of session Matt Gourley. Good to see you both.

[Sona Movsesian]

Good to see you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Very excited about our guest today. Normally, we don't talk about the guest in this part of the segment, but we just taped with the guest, Danny McBride. And Danny McBride. I'm walking him out. We had a great time. It's really fun interview. I love this interview. And we've been wanting to get him for A long time. And we're walking out. On the way out, he went, hey, man, I got a gift for you that I brought for you. And I didn't know what it was gonna be. And he's fishing around his pocket, and he takes out what looks at first like a very expensive pen. And then he said, it's a dick light. And it's a light that shines a penis onto things. What? It shines a penis, I believe, onto.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, I see it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's a little guy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I've had girls say that to me. What? Oh, I see it. Do you want to try shining it.

[Danny McBride]

On the wall so we can.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't think.

[Sona Movsesian]

Does it not turn off?

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, there it is. Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, a dick.

[Conan O'Brien]

Where? Right on the door.

[Sona Movsesian]

Right there.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't see it. I don't see the dick. Oh, there it is.

[Danny McBride]

Yes. Yay.

[Matt Gourley]

There's never been more call for her. That's what she said, but I'll leave it at that.

[Danny McBride]

There you go.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. So anyway, this is what Danny McBride gave me. @ first, I thought he was giving me a Mont Blanc pen, you know, And I thought, oh, I can't accept this. But this is what he brought me, and I can now shine a cartoon penis on anything at any time.

[Matt Gourley]

What are you gonna do with that? What are your plans?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I'm going to the opera tonight downtown, and I'm gonna make sure that there's a penis head on.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's a cute little dick. I thought it was a vape pen.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't expect this.

[Matt Gourley]

I thought it was a dick pen.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

Ah, that's cute.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Not since Johnson biographer Robert Caro have I been given a dick pen. I guess this is nice.

[Matt Gourley]

You can use it for drunken frat parties when you don't want to leave, like, permanent Sharpie on somebody's face.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, it's nice. It's considerate. You don't want to draw. And also, the time that goes into here, you. You play with it. Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

You two and drunken frat parties.

[Matt Gourley]

Let me just ask. Oh, seriously?

[Conan O'Brien]

What is that nice? A guest, Danny McBride, brought a gift. And it is the kind of gift that a lot of his characters would probably have in their pocket.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sorry.

[Matt Gourley]

This just recalled, and you can cut this part. But I just remember not too long ago, Jamie Foxx got into a fight because I guess he was at a dinner somewhere publicly, and somebody from upstairs was shining one of these pins.

[Conan O'Brien]

You can. Why would you edit that?

[Danny McBride]

Out.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know if we want to put business out there, but. What are you talking about? I just. That's a funny.

[Sona Movsesian]

Someone was shining a like.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well.

[Sona Movsesian]

Cause it is like a laser pointer.

[Matt Gourley]

The headline is, and this is from tmz, it's Jamie Foxx laser penis pointer sparked dinner altercation, beef with jackass crew.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, oh. So Jamie Foxx is somewhere and the jackass crew is above him at a separate area of the bar restaurant, still at it. And they're shining a penis light so that a penis shows up on Jamie Foxx. He becomes enraged.

[Matt Gourley]

Mr. Chiles in Beverly Hills.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, that's a. Wow. You know, that's a fancy restaurant. And if I go to Mr. Chow's in Beverly Hills, which I don't. I'm not allowed in because of my own dick light incident several years ago. No, but if I went there and someone was doing that to me, I mean, that's the last place I would think that would happen. But anyway.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's a laser pointer.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a laser.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's not really a flashlight. It's a.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, it's a laser pointer. But when. When deployed, it makes this, I guess, very cartoonish looking male genitalia.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then you can shine it on people.

[Matt Gourley]

All that to say, be careful or else you're going to get your ass beat.

[Conan O'Brien]

What do you mean? What's that? What do you say?

[Danny McBride]

All that to say, just be careful where you point that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Because what happens? Is that considered an insult to some people?

[Sona Movsesian]

It depends. It depends.

[Matt Gourley]

It could also be an invitation, you.

[Danny McBride]

Know, like, hey, see you from across the room. Click, clack. You know, like.

[Matt Gourley]

Or it's like you're going to be shot with a dick sniper gun. You know what I mean?

[Conan O'Brien]

Right. There's a sniper who's going to fire a dildo at you. Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

From like a skyscraper.

[Conan O'Brien]

But it's going to be it, like. Yeah, exactly. It's the aiming mechanism for a dildo.

[Matt Gourley]

A dildo.

[Conan O'Brien]

Dildo. Okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

Sure.

[Conan O'Brien]

Anyway, it's a gift. Guests don't often bring a gift. And I. I appreciate this.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

We can count on one hand. Jimmy Kimmel brought barbecue.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right.

[Matt Gourley]

Randall park brought, like, cheap liquor store whiskey.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, wait a minute. No, I was that.

[Sona Movsesian]

And he brought pirouette.

[Conan O'Brien]

Cool.

[Matt Gourley]

It was part of its charm. He went to the liquor store and got like, snacks and cheap.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, well, maybe present it judging him. Maybe present it a little better the next time. He also brought a drawing he did of me in a nice little frame.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Which is one of the worst drawings of me I've ever seen. It was terrible.

[Danny McBride]

Beastie Boys brought fruit tarts.

[Sona Movsesian]

I didn't know that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Danny McBride]

Billy Eilish and Phineas sent a bunch of milks afterwards.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's right.

[Danny McBride]

Different kinds of milks. Every kind of milk.

[Conan O'Brien]

Every kind of milk.

[Matt Gourley]

Kaley Cuoco sent us little equestrian mugs with candies in them.

[Sona Movsesian]

And she sent it to the two of us, like, why didn't I get a dick? Laser point.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I think it's probably, you know, PC for.

[Matt Gourley]

You get a dick, you get a vagina one.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, those are.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, those are. And those are harder to find because they're hotter tickets, too.

[Danny McBride]

Nobody wants that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nobody wants that. So. Yeah, no, it's. It happens every now and then. A. Oh, no, an Arnold Schwarzenegger he brought. Remember, he gave me 65 acres of land in Austria.

[Matt Gourley]

What?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

What?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. This is for you.

[Danny McBride]

It's land in Austria. I hope you enjoy it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Remember that. And I've seen it. It's beautiful. 65 acres up in the Alps. It's incredible. Yeah, it's amazing.

[Matt Gourley]

Lucky.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Well, I mean. But you know what? I say that Danny McBride dick lighter. 50. 50.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, Chris Martin gave you a little. Chris Martin.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, he did.

[Danny McBride]

And honey. And honey as well.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Danny McBride]

For. For Liza, that Dakota. That was for.

[Conan O'Brien]

For Liza. That's right, honey. That's right. That's right. He gave me a, like, it's almost mandolin sized, tiny little guitar. And he wrote. He wrote on it. And I play that at home. It's really nice. It's got a nice bright tone. That's right. And you weren't there for that. No, no, no. That's the one that I. Where I went to Chris Martin. Lovely fellow, by the way.

[Sona Movsesian]

I bet. No idea. We didn't get anything.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, that's kind of the way it should be.

[Danny McBride]

He also bought us lunch.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, fuck you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

Was it just a big pot of honey?

[Danny McBride]

No, there were delicious sandwiches and cookies and we all ate there in the sunshine. And he gave us pins.

[Conan O'Brien]

He all gave us little love pins. Oh, nice. Oh, that's true. He gave us a lot of cool stuff. Yeah. Then he gave us robes to wear. Yeah, he gave us those.

[Danny McBride]

Amazing.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then he told us that, yeah, we had to live in a certain compound for a while. Yeah, it was amazing.

[Sona Movsesian]

You could live in a Chris Martin compound.

[Conan O'Brien]

Julia Louis Dreyfus deviled eggs. No, I just made that up. Now I'm making them up. That's a funny makeup. I like those to make some up. Michelle Obama gave me scrimshaw. She gave me scrimshaw that she had made of a three masted schooner on a whale's tooth. Which is pretty cool. Okay, so that was fun. It was a really nice one to have.

[Matt Gourley]

We've stopped talking in hopes that you'll move it along.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, I'm just gonna pretend I'm looking for something.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah, I might need a tissue.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Al Pacino gave me a grill for my teeth. It says Thug Life on it. Remember that? And then he took me to the dentist and the dentist put it on.

[Sona Movsesian]

He went with you to the dentist? That's so nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

We gotta go to the dentist. This impression, that was him. He was melting. I didn't realize he was made of ice cream. My guest today, we should get into it, right? My guest today, as you know, is a hilarious writer, producer and actor. Also a very generous man. And he's the force behind such shows is Eastbound and Down, Vice Principals and the Righteous Gemstones, which is currently airing its fourth season on max. And this is a man we've wanted to talk to for a while. I've met him before, of course. Cause I travel in those waters. Celebrity waters. But you guys, everyone here has been so jazzed. Danny McBride. Welcome. You know, I have to start. This is the most obvious place to start. But I have to start with how I met you, which is one of my favorite things ever. Back in 2006, you're a complete unknown and you make this movie called the Foot Fist Way. And I think I get a call from Will Ferrell, who's just saying, like, this guy's really hilarious. You have to have him on the show because Adam McKay and Ferrell had seen the film and they were giving it a big boost. And you gotta have Danny on the show. So we booked you on the show. And your concept was to come out as Fred. What's his last name?

[Danny McBride]

Fred Simmons.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, Fred Simmons. That's right. And we used to love to do shit like this on late night. We didn't tell the audience anything. And they don't know. You couldn't do this now. Cause you're Danny McBride, but they didn't know who you were. The movie was just about to come out. You're a complete unknown. So you come. I just announced you and you were. We talked about it and you said, I want this announced as like, this is just the real deal. We have a guy here and he's gonna give a karate.

[Danny McBride]

A karate demonstration demonstration.

[Conan O'Brien]

And he works with these kids. And you Brought these kids out and I'm sure you can see this on YouTub or wherever. And you come out and what you have to remember when you watch this clip is everyone in the audience thinks I'm totally dead serious about it. I never give up that this is. And you come out and you start trying to get the kids to break boards and do stuff. And when it's not going your way, you start yelling at them and getting really mad at them and the kids look a little upset and I'm looking at the crowd and the crowd is horrified and it's great. It's one of my favorite things. One of my favorite memories of a almost 30 year late night career is you out there going, come on, try to get over here. Where you going? And you're shouting at them. It's not going well. And I think it ends with some of the kids getting upset and running away. And then you get mad and you run away. And I'll never forget, I'm standing there in Studio 6A, which is where Letterman had his late night show and I had my late night show and you had just run away and everyone's run away. I say I played the part of looking kind of like a confused, upset host. And I just went, okay, I guess we'll figure this out. And we'll be right back. Go to commercial. And Max and the band start to play and these two guys who are about 19 or 20 years old are sitting right near the front row and they go like, Conan, what the fuck? And I went, guys, I don't know, I don't know. I didn't even tell them. Cause I thought that's breaking the rule.

[Danny McBride]

I didn't say to them, breaking the illusion.

[Conan O'Brien]

So we did that. And then you do foot fist way and then you go on to all this crazy success and well deserved by the way. But Eastbound Down Vice Principals Righteous Gemstones Movies Everybody knows and loves Danny McBride. And I'm thinking there's something I really love about that moment in time when no one knew you and you're being a total asshole.

[Danny McBride]

I often wish I could go back and do it again. That was the first time I had ever even done press. Like I had never even had an interview before. I'd obviously never been on a late night show. And I remember I couldn't eat for like two days before we did it. I was so nervous about what we were doing and it was so much fun. And you're right, you played along and it felt like we were really offending people and Upsetting people. I think after I was on, we looked online and there were. People were mad about it. They were like, they should take his school away. He shouldn't be allowed to be around children.

[Conan O'Brien]

He shouldn't be allowed to be around kids. And the kids were good. The kids didn't let on at all.

[Danny McBride]

Not at all.

[Conan O'Brien]

And it was perfect because it was kind of this mini scandal, like this guy lost it on Kids on Conan's show. It just made me so happy. And I remembered thinking like a lot of people. And then I saw Foot Fist Way and the Foot Fist Way, and it's a really funny movie. You mine a similar area in all your different characters where you're not particularly good at something or legit, but you have this fervent belief in yourself.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you're not good. You're trying to build up this school. You're trying to teach martial arts. But there's one film, there's one part in the movie that set everything apart for me, which is you're trying to show in the movie who this character is. At one point, I don't know if it's your. I think it's your wife comes home or your girlfriend. She comes home and you want to play a prank on her. And I'll never forget this. And I have not gone back and looked at this since, so I'm probably misrepresenting a little bit. But your idea of a prank is you jump out with a knife and you go, ah, like that. And she goes, ah. And then you just go, ah, Just a prank. Fuck you. And I'm like, who says? And I remember watching it. And this is back back in 2006, so I'm sure I had, like, a DVD that they gave me or something. You know, there was no Today. They'd send me a link to watch the film, you know, but not as special. Yeah, but whatever. I got a brick of some kind and fed it into a machine that doesn't exist anymore. And when you jumped out and did this, it's not. It's not a prank, first of all. But then when your response when the prank is you do it. And then you go, ah, fuck you. And I was just. It blew my mind. And I was like, I gotta know. I've gotta know this Danny McBride. Who is this Danny McBride?

[Danny McBride]

I think it's funny to play characters who have terrible senses of humor.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's. That's why I was so jazzed about you coming on the podcast, is I. I thought I've encountered you many times in life, but we've never really had a chance to have a conversation. And I'm such a big fan of yours, and I just want to know, how does a Danny McBride happen? You know, I mean, first of all, I know that you grew up in Georgia and rural Virginia, and you've described yourself as kind of a latchkey kid.

[Danny McBride]

Yes, yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you're. What are you doing? You got a lot of alone time?

[Danny McBride]

You know, I was born in Georgia, and then I actually, like, lived in Lompoc, California, for a little bit. My really young. My dad was a guard at the prison there, and so I lived on the prison reservation where all the other. Other families of people who were working in the prison lived. We were there, I think, for maybe about four years. And it was kind of. It was crazy. It definitely was. Was a. Was a nutty place to live in the backyard of.

[Conan O'Brien]

Were you scared ever? No. You just.

[Danny McBride]

You know, the only time I ever really thought about it was there was one night I can remember that there was the. The sirens went off at the prison, and my dad came in and made my sister and I, like, go into their room, and we had to shut the door. And I'm, like, looking out the window and he's getting his shotgun and, like, jumping into the back of a pickup truck with all my friends, dads. Like, there was. Had been a jailbreak, and they were, like, going out to go bottom down, I guess. But he had got transferred to the Federal Bureau of prisons in D.C. after that. So then we moved to Virginia and then kind of grew up there for the rest of it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. And you say you've spent a lot of time in South. In the south, and you've sort of said that you didn't feel like you quite fit in with what some people would call redneck culture or whatever.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, I think, you know, my mom was from Pennsylvania, and so even, like, when we moved to a place like Northern Virginia, it's like, that's everyone, you know, it's not necessarily just like, only Southern culture there. That was everybody moving there who worked in D.C. and it's a mix. It's a mix. Yeah. And so when you would meet. When I would meet kids with, like, really thick Southern accents, I was always, like, just amazed and tickled and liked it and would try to imitate them and try to act like I belong. But, yeah, I just grew up, you know, living there, parents both working. That was like the. The beginning of cable TV and video stores. And so I just. I Loved all that stuff. I was just like. I wasn't into sports, wasn't into anything like that. I just really loved movies and TV and you know, and just was obsessed with it.

[Conan O'Brien]

You would find friends that were into the same stuff, which is usually what happens.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. And then. And it was very few, you know, I had only like a handful of buddies who were into that stuff. I would try to make movies in my backyard with kids and. And then I went to the North Carolina School of the Arts in for film school. And that's where I met honestly, all the guys I still work with.

[Conan O'Brien]

Jody Hill.

[Danny McBride]

Jody Hill, David Green, Richard Wright, our production designer, our music supervisor. There's like, you know, it's people I met when I was 18 years old and we're guys who couldn't afford to go to NYU or usc. We're going to like this little state like run school that is just beginning to have a film program. And I don't know, we always just felt like outsiders there. Like we're learning to make movies In Winston Salem, North Carolina. It wasn't like we were so far outside the bubble. I don't know, I think it instilled in us this idea that we should all like stick together and help each other out because we were kind of living on an island so far away from all the resources that other people had. And then we just kind of kept that up through our careers.

[Conan O'Brien]

This caught my eye. One interview said I realized it didn't look good in a pickup truck or like a big four wheel drive truck. Like that wasn't you.

[Danny McBride]

It wasn't me. But then it was funny like, you know, you just because we're. I'm from the south. Then, you know, we lean in with something like Kenny Powers. I think that was the perception was that. But it was sort of like that was sort of my love letter to all the assholes that I had grown up with.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're so good at being an asshole. You're so good at being an asshole. And this is something I want to connect with you on because. And this is gonna get tricky. Cause my team is gonna weigh in on my part of this. But I think I love being a bad guy. I don't think I am. This is gonna get tricky. I think at my core I.

[Matt Gourley]

When do we get to.

[Conan O'Brien]

I meant like a few episodes from now. Like in six months you get to chime in. But I love. I really enjoy it. And I see a kindred spirit where you are a very nice guy. You seem like a very genuine Nice person. But you relish being a dick. You just relish it. And it's fun. It's a release.

[Danny McBride]

It is. And you know, I feel like with some of these characters, I feel like, you know, they're the butt of the joke. So, you know, as opposed to just delivering like one liners and stuff, it's just sort of like embodying a complete joke, you know, like just making someone who is so silly and ridiculous in that. I don't know, I just find I have a good time doing.

[Conan O'Brien]

You also have the best dismissive laugh. Like, I mean, I'm not going to do it, but you just like, you laugh at people, make fun of them in your characters. And I'm trying to think of, like, there's a moment in the movie about the end of the world.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, this is the end.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is the end. And there's this great part where everyone's playing themselves and so you're Danny McBride and they come and tell you that all these different people, you know, like all these different stars, real stars, who are all playing themselves, have died because it's the end of the world. And they come and tell you, they're telling you, and then they tell you that Michael Cera is dead. And you're like.

[Danny McBride]

Like, nobody wants Michael Cera dead.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. No. And people love Michael Cera. And you're like, ah, who fucking cares about Michael Cera? And it was just making me. I remember that moment, like, you really popped in that movie. Cause whose response to Michael Cera is dead is a good laugh.

[Danny McBride]

I'm happy about it.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Danny McBride]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Danny McBride]

I. I love the Goonies. I took my. Before we left California and moved to Charleston, South Carolina, I took the kids up to Astoria to go see the Goonies. House to go see the Rock, to go see the Jailhouse.

[Conan O'Brien]

It was awesome. Wanting to go. It was awesome.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, my God.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. I love that movie. I thought it was cool. I mean, I think it was just, you know, of the age. Seeing a bunch of kids that are your age on TV in their cursing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Danny McBride]

Instantly appealed to me, I think when.

[Conan O'Brien]

That movie came out, I was 22. Yeah. And I thought, these kids should be in school. Yeah. I was like. I was, like, sitting in the theater, like, why aren't they. Why are they running around? A ship wouldn't be underground, you know, it just was. I shouldn't have been seeing that movie.

[Danny McBride]

I remember my grandfather's take on it was that it was pornographic. And it confused me about what pornographic meant. I'm like, is it. Is this pornographic? Is this. But I guess it was the language that he didn't like that the kids were banging each other.

[Conan O'Brien]

I was gonna say, say, it must be a director's cut that I haven't seen.

[Danny McBride]

He had the laser disc all the.

[Conan O'Brien]

Kids are just going at it. Oh, God. Oh, come on. Like you haven't thought about it. No, I haven't. Fuck you. I'm channeling McBride now. Yeah. It's funny, though. I've seen the effect because I was in. I was shooting in another country and ran into Martha Plimpton. And the people on my crew who are, again, 10, 15 years younger than me, their hands were shaking.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I love Martha Plimpton. And I was like, hey, Martha, how are you? And she'd been on the show a bunch and good to see you. But I. But I thought, you know, it's not Prince, you know, I mean, it's. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's. No, but they were all Goonies.

[Danny McBride]

Goonies fans. I did this really small movie with Jody called Legacy of a White Tailed Deer Hunter that was like a Netflix movie and Josh Brolin's in it. I was, like, wanting to say something about Goonies, like, the entire time. And I just, like, felt like, oh, I gotta play it cool. And there's, like, one scene where I'm, like, almost dying in the scene, and he's like, you know, trying to help me out, and he's like, you know, don't die. And then in the take, I was like, goonies never say die. He just looked at me. He's like, that's the worst delivery you've given in the whole movie. I know. I got scared.

[Conan O'Brien]

I could see him, too, being not too happy. He's like, you know, I've gone on to all this other amazing work.

[Sona Movsesian]

It doesn't matter.

[Conan O'Brien]

Can't keep bringing me back there. You know, there's this thread that runs through, like, whether it's Eastbound Down, Vice principals, righteous gemstones, they're kind of screwed up. Don Quixote's. They're on this quest. And I think one of the things that makes Don Quixote and that kind of comedy or character so compelling to me is that the character fully believes it. The character is completely invested in what they're doing. And I thought it was really interesting that you made the decision that in the Righteous Gemstones, the gemstones are not conmen. They are making a ton of money off of this, and it's a great business, and they'll do what they have to do to grow this. But at their core, they believe. And I think that's essential. It has to be that way.

[Danny McBride]

It has to be. I think it's what allows you to still make them feel like no matter how far into outer Space, the comedy might go that there's somewhere you can kind of get back down to planet Earth by the end and kind of, like, have a chance to make it touching or to make somebody feel something real in it. We kind of learned that when we were writing Eastbound. I remember when we pitched it, we were so enamored with just Kenny Powers being such a shithead and treating everyone so terribly. And that was making us laugh. And then there became this moment where we were like, what would make him more interesting is if he was good at this and it's not like he's just a joke. Like, if he actually had talent. And part of the tragedy is he squandered it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Danny McBride]

I remember that being, like, a breakthrough because that wasn't part of our initial pitch. It was like, yeah, he flamed out. But the idea that he was really talented and he had something there that. That's part of why he's over stretching so much, is that he's, like, squandered something that. That was in him that he kind of abused. And. I don't know, it just was a. That, like, you know, you can make jokes with these characters, but if you can kind of, like, actually give them something real under there to struggle with it, it just ends up giving you more room to play.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. And it enhances. It actually makes the jokes.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. Better.

[Conan O'Brien]

Funnier. I. When I was at the Simpsons, I remembered all I was interested in was coming up with really funny ideas for stories and really funny lines for characters. That's all I cared about. And good visuals. And I thought of myself as. I don't really care about story arc and stuff like that. I just want to be the hot gun in the room. I want to be. You know, I want to be. I want to come up with the stuff that's really going to be great and cutting edge, whatever. And I remember getting talked to about. It was explained to me by Mike Reese and Al Jean. They said, you know, that it's really important to James L. Brooks and to Matt Groening and to Sam Simon. The thing that makes this work is that it's a family and they all love each other. And I remember at the time being. Whatever. I was 24, thinking, what? That's so lame.

[Danny McBride]

What, did they just watch the Goonies?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I mean, but I remembered. Pornographic. I remembered, yeah, it's possible. It's completely pornographic. Yeah. I just didn't. I didn't understand that at all. But I went with it. And then later on realized that you don't Have a show if Homer doesn't care if Bart dies? If he's that level of. Yes, Homer does lots of incredibly stupid things, but he does care about his family. If he's a sociopath, you don't have a show. And if none of them. If they're all sociopaths, you don't have a show. And that's the kind of stuff that my old writing partner, Greg Daniels, who's done a million great shows, Office, Parks and Recreation, and just to name a few, but he was so good at. He's funny. He can come up with really funny stuff, but he also knows that you have to care about these people as people. And I think that was one of the revelations that Steve Carell was so brilliant at.

[Danny McBride]

Totally.

[Conan O'Brien]

Which is he's being such an asshole. He's so misreading the room. He's so not doing his job. But you know that he's a good person at heart, and that is such a hard thing to do. And I think that that was one of those things that resonates with me when I watch your work, is I care about you. I care about the characters you're playing because you've invested them with that, even if they're pretty awful, pretty terrible.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, I love that. And I love working with actors that get that. Like Edie Patterson, who plays my sister on the show. I met her on Vice Principals and instantly saw that with her. That. Not. Can she just deliver insane punchlines, you know, that are completely lunacy, but, like, she has the chops to, like, make you care, too, and to make. To hurt your feelings or to make you kind of want more for her. And I think the moment we started messing around with that kind of stuff, it just, like, that became what a little bit of the pool was with all the comedy. It's like, how can we surprise people by being so foul? And then weirdly, underneath it all, there's, like, something that might resonate with people.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a family, and they are. They do care about each other. They live in this insane situation.

[Danny McBride]

Exactly. They're gangsters.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, they're gangsters who believe that what they're doing is righteous.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. That was what was kind of crazy even starting the show is that I moved down to Charleston, South Carolina, with my family about almost, like, eight years ago, and I wasn't really sure what I was going to write next. And once I was there, I saw a lot of the churches there, and I was on. Every other radio station is like a religious station. And I went to Church. When I was a kid, my family was pretty religious. Just got me thinking, like, what is church like now? And so I started, like, kind of doing research on these mega churches, and it just kind of instantly seemed like it was something that would be in one of our worlds. Like, the idea of, like, these people kind of seeing themselves as a celebrity and. And being, you know, big shots and. And just the idea of saying one thing meaning another, it just felt like it was right for what we wanted to do. But then I would look at stuff that tackles religion, and I always kind of never. I couldn't think of anything that I really liked that had done that. I was like, oh, it's. You know, there's something about it that is usually too cynical, or it's just bashing on people's faith. And I don't know, it just didn't seem like it was. Like it was something that I wanted to do. And so, yeah, we started writing that show. It was sort of like one of our mantras was like, you know, yeah, these guys believe, and the butt of the joke is never what their belief is. It's just them. They're the butt of the joke. Their hypocrisy is what's funny and not, like, what they believe in. And. And everybody on board the show got down with that. They were all that. That was sort of like what everyone kind of followed. And it'd be interesting because you oftentimes would see stuff. People would come with things, whether it's production design or anything that might push things too much, like, oh, I think the joke here is that it's Jesus. And maybe that's, like, not where we should get the joke from. It should get the thought process behind someone you know, is more funny than just cheap shots, I guess.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. You don't want to be punching down. You don't be making fun of the faith. You want to be looking at these people, which. It is a family. They live on this ridiculous compound. You know, I mean, I'm a big Walton Goggins fan, and I'm curious how you two came together. I know you were on Vice principals.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, Walton. You know, Walt. I had seen Walton in the Shield, and Walton came in and read for Eastbound. It was the. I think it was the third season, and we ended up casting Sudeikis in that role. He was like, Kenny Power's best friend. But, I mean, the. I always. I mean, it was just, you know, not because Walton didn't do a good job reading, but it was just like, I think we Already had our mindset on Sudeikis, and. But Walton just stuck in my brain forever after that. When he came in, I was like, God damn, that guy was so funny when, you know, and so unexpected. And I had bumped into him a few other times through the years, and then when I wrote Vice Principals, he just came to my mind that he was, you know, that I would like to spend some time with him. And I felt like this was a side that he hadn't really shown people. And in all of his work, there's a comedic undertone to all of it. You know, he's just naturally funny. And so. So, yeah, it was just kind of awesome. I sent him that script, the pilot, and he called me back later on that afternoon and was just, like, doing the Lee Russell voice, which is the character he played. I was like, this is gonna be fun.

[Conan O'Brien]

He was here. He did the podcast, and do you remember this? He came and he was. I think he was flying back and forth a lot to Thailand for White Lotus at the time, and so he was tired. I came in, and his people said, walton just needs to sleep for 25 minutes, and then he'll be okay to do the podcast. So he was in that room that I just saw you in, and there's a couch there, and he just lay down like a vampire and, like, put his hands over his chest and instantly went out and slept for exactly 25 minutes back. And then came. And then they, like, reactivated the guy, you know, reactivate Goggins. And he, like, sat up and he came in, and he was great in the podcast. And then probably said, now I need 17 minutes. There's something I've always thought about in comedy, which is one of my favorite characters. I always go back to him all the time, is Peter Sellers, Inspector Clouseau, and the Pink Panther movies. And those movies were a huge deal to me because my dad would take me to see those films, and I never saw my dad laugh that hard. And I would be laughing but also notice clocking my dad laughing so hard. And I thought they were fantastic. So I introduced him to my son, and we watched these movies, and it took me a long time to realize what makes it work is that Clouseau, he is deadly serious.

[Danny McBride]

Totally. Yeah. We never. Weirdly, we never approach any of it like it is a comedy. Like, even when we talk to the, you know, the production designers and all this stuff, we approach it as if it's, like, so serious. And then that just makes it so much funnier. I remember even when we sold Eastbound, you know, they were trying to talk to us about shooting it all digitally and everything. And for us, it was like. No, we. We, like, fought really hard to shoot on, like, Super 16, and then even the other seasons were on 35 millimeter film. And it was like, there was no real reason to. To do that. But for us, it was all part of the aesthetic of, like, we can't treat this like it's just something cheap. You know, it needs to be approached as if it has scope and grandeur, and then all these jokes and all this ridiculousness will. Will play. Then, you know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, you're shooting it. You want to. It's like you have to go in with the intent that we're making. I'm David Lean, and I'm making Lawrence of Arabia.

[Danny McBride]

That's it.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, Wait a minute. What's the topic again? Don't worry about that.

[Danny McBride]

That's it.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I think that that comes through. It's funny how you talk about the way people want things shot. I've heard that some producers, some executives want things to be bright and colorful. If it's a comedy, they actually want it to be brighter because they want to let you know that it's a comedy, as opposed to trusting that you'll figure out that what's happening is very funny.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And more so, I think if things are a little dark or if there's a grayness to it, it's so true.

[Danny McBride]

I remember us hearing that, that, like, you know, oh, you need to get a comedy dp. And we were just like, what. What the hell is that? You know? And to me, it was like, no, it seems that, you know, know, we don't want to, like, play into any of this stuff. There's not, like, a way to shoot it. And, you know. Yeah, for us, that always. It felt like if you're filming something, you should use all the tools that come with filming something. You should be able to know when to make it dark or when to make it light. You should know when to make it beautiful or when to make it ominous and scary. And why would you strip all of those things away just to kind of light something bland so that you. The jokes play better? It just. It felt like it was missing out on what the advantages are of doing something, filming.

[Conan O'Brien]

So I'm curious. You live. You don't live here. You don't live here, and we're in Los Angeles right now in your office.

[Danny McBride]

No, I've never lived here.

[Conan O'Brien]

There was. There was a year. There was a year where you Were going through a little bit of a rough patch. Okay. 20, 22.

[Danny McBride]

I remember you lived here. You found me in the bottom of the pool that you took out when.

[Conan O'Brien]

We bought this podcast studio. There was a little pool out there. And the first thing I said was, that pool goes.

[Matt Gourley]

And so does that guy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, you have to jackhammer it. Yeah, exactly. And that guy McBride, get him out of here. But yeah, I just. It's interesting because I know there are people I really admire. Zach Galifianakis is another one who. He doesn't live here in la and he's very resolute about. No, I'm gonna live with my people, my life. It's not a rejection of la, it's just, no, I'll do the work here, but I want to go. In your case, it's Charleston, South Carolina.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Which is. By the way, I've been there several times and I'm a history buff. I was telling you before we started the podcast that I've been there and taken the tours and. Absolutely. I think it'd be a dream to live there.

[Danny McBride]

It's insane. You know, I'd never even been there until we shot vice principals and, and really just fell in love with the place. And I had small kids at the time. They're still small. They'll never grow. I won't let that. But, you know, my, you know, it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Helps if you feed them.

[Danny McBride]

We'll see. But my wife was from Los Angeles. I loved living out here. I mean, I was here for almost 20 years and you know, I, I loved it here, but I definitely kind of saw that my kids, if I kept them here, it wasn't like they would have a bad life, but it was like there would just be elements of my life that I feel like they wouldn't be able to experience. Like there was something free about being able to get on your bike and just like cruise through your neighborhood and stay gone until the, you know, the sun went down. And I knew, like, when we're living up on Mulholland, I wasn't exactly trusting my 6 year old son to go on a bike and just come back.

[Conan O'Brien]

When the sun comes down, go down, go down Mulholland at 60 miles an hour, unable to stop.

[Danny McBride]

Happened on Mulholland.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's the old Manson house.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, no. But I just wanted, I wanted them to have a little taste of that. When we went to shoot vice principals there, I was seeing it in real time. They were getting it. They were having more independence than I had ever had. With them here, like, they were able to hang out with friends. And it wasn't like we were overseeing it or like coordinating a play date. It was like, just kind of naturally happening. And so I just kind of wanted that. I thought it was. It'd be cool for them and. Yeah, so that kind of motivated us moving there. And then luckily, a lot of the guys I work with, they all were kind of at the same point in their lives where they had young kids and were kind of a little, like, helpless about how to raise kids here. That everyone had come from small towns, and so it was an adjustment and everyone just kind of decided to go down together. It was like. I think we went down.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wait, so you live in, like a community with your friends?

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, we are.

[Conan O'Brien]

Some people call that a cult.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, yeah. We allow others in. You know, there is no. But is I. We moved there with like, honestly, like Jody Hill, David Green. He's got a place there. Like, yeah, the. John Kachuri, Jeff Frowley, all these other writers from the show. We all moved there the same summer and set up shop and. Yeah, it's been almost eight years now.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's amazing.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. We didn't have to make new friends. We were able just to keep the ones that. That we've always known.

[Conan O'Brien]

You can't. At a certain point, you can't make new friends.

[Danny McBride]

It's too much effort.

[Matt Gourley]

Which is great for this podcast and its title.

[Conan O'Brien]

Have I really made friends with any of them? I reject. The minute the podcast is over, I tell them, get out of here. Yeah, I'll say I'm not. I won't see you again. It's all a scam. You know, I have to ask you about working with John Goodman. Cause he's one of my. He's one of my favorite people. I mean, I'm just thinking of all of the iconic roles he's played. So much great work with the Coen brothers. And he was the first guest on my late night show. Oh, wow. September 13th, 1993. And I ran into him recently on an elevator. I hadn't seen him in years. I was like, hello, John. He's like, hello. And I said, remember, you're my first guest. And he said, yes, you. I believe you know, the way he can talk. He's very serious. He said, I. You. You. George went canceled, so you. I was your second choice. And. And that was not the case. He was misremembering.

[Danny McBride]

He remembered that.

[Conan O'Brien]

But he. But the problem is he misremembered it. Yeah, he misremembered it, which was. No, he was our first choice. And we wanted someone who we knew would be really fun and friendly and go along with all the weird stuff we wanted to do and that. We put George Wendt in the audience to challenge him to leg wrestling. And that was just to show people how weird our show was gonna be. We wanted to do that right off the bat. So that was always the plan, and now somehow he's got it switched in his mind. That. And I remember then he got off the elevator and I never got a chance to straighten him out. That, like. No, no, no. You were the first choice. George Wendt was the plant in the audience. But I know I lost a time.

[Danny McBride]

Now he, you know, and maybe it's good for him, but he. I feel like he underestimates how much influence and how great he is. You know, I would, like, be surprised when, you know, I would sense that he was nervous or worried that he wasn't doing good. Like, are you kidding me? It's like you're John Good, blowing everyone here out of the water.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny McBride]

He. He's incredible. I mean, I always. I've always loved him. And, you know, he. He was like, making. He was in TV when TV wasn't really that cool. And, you know, he's like, you know, on your tv, and then he still can go do the Coen Brothers can, you know, and he's. Everything is so funny, and he's lasted for so long, and he still can make you laugh and can still do stuff that's challenging. I mean, I never thought in a million years we would get him on this show. It was like, completely like a lark.

[Conan O'Brien]

Also, because he's such a good actor. He. His. He can. I mean, his menace.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, on the gemstones, his sense of purpose and drive. And I've. He's built this. This thing, and you get the sense that he really has and that it comes from something real.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, totally.

[Conan O'Brien]

You need a real actor to do that.

[Danny McBride]

You do. And if we wouldn't have had someone like him, I don't think the show would have worked. I think you needed that legitimacy, even for us.

[Conan O'Brien]

Like, I think I could have done it.

[Danny McBride]

Oh, there was thoughts that maybe you could. Yeah, you could have done it.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I, I. George went. George went for sure. No, I, I, I. In all fairness, I think, yeah, you gotta. A Goodman or a Conan.

[Danny McBride]

Like, often brought up at the same time. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Often in the same sentence. Coen brothers just don't have my number. They don't know how to get a hold of me.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, that's the problem.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm very hard to get a hold of.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah. Real hard.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have a flip phone. Not everyone has the number.

[Danny McBride]

That's what it is.

[Conan O'Brien]

You said that you like these guys, these characters, they see themselves as something they are not, which is, I think also it's part of the same line of what we've been talking about. But people who don't see themselves as what they really are. But it's a. But their belief in themselves is genuine.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. Their egos are just unchecked. Yeah. They. I just feel like that, you know, when you want to make the character the butt of the joke, that's like the most. I don't know, that's like the richest ground of just, you know, the tragedy of like seeing someone telegraphing how they want you to see them and then knowing that they're not that. It just always makes me laugh. Laugh.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you're in South Carolina now. Is it weird to come into LA and like, okay, now I'm driving around the 405 freeway, and I'm going to do press and things like that.

[Danny McBride]

You're. You're. I mean, it's funny. I mean, I would. I lived here 20 years, drive everywhere, and then instantly I feel like I'm an old person who's never been around a. A moving car before. It's like there's so many cars. It's. It's. Everything's so fast, Right. You do slow down. I mean, everything is so slow there that you. It does it kind of. I'm like, wow, it's wild that I was used to this pace. It's not.

[Conan O'Brien]

One of the things I love about Charleston is when you go downtown, they have the old gas lamps. It's like you've gone back in time. They've done a really good job of preserving. And so I would think it's about as not LA as you can get to me is gas lanterns in the streets. Do you know what I mean?

[Danny McBride]

Burning in the middle of the day, just burning propane.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. Someone over there has a butter churn. So I'm curious, like, when something like gemstones is done, you've wrapped it and you're gonna unveil this new season. Are you onto the next thing already? Are you?

[Danny McBride]

You know, after I leave Here I go Sound mix the very last episode. So after today, I will be officially unemployed. I'm done. I don't. I mean, I have ideas what I wanna do, but I really just kind of wanna just chill out for a little bit and catch a breath. I mean, I've been on gemstones full time now for, like, seven years. I mean, it doesn't seem like that because there was Covid and there was a strike, but it's. I monogamous. When I get on something like this, I, like, live and breathe it. I mean, when we're not in between seasons, I'm literally just, like, reading the Bible, watching sermons, just trying to find material and find inspiration. And so I think after a while, you kind of do have to just shut it off. Because even in my head, if I were to think of ideas now, they all would feel similar to gemstones. Because my brain is so trained on finding humor and finding comedy that, like, fits that mold. So I think in a way, you kind of have to just, like, let it go and kind of stop. Stop thinking about it for a while and then kind of.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, so what. What do you do to relax? What are your. What are your fun things? What's your happy place?

[Danny McBride]

I need to get hobbies. I don't have hobbies, unfortunately. I've tried a few different ones in Charleston, and none of them have really started.

[Conan O'Brien]

What did you try?

[Danny McBride]

When I first got there, I was like, maybe I'm going to be somebody who's, like, into grilling. I'll be into big green eggs and, like, and like, learning how to, like, master the big green egg. And I had that for a while. And then I was like, I'm gonna have a heart attack with all these steaks no one's eating. Like, trying to dial the temperature in just right. It's like my wife's like, yeah, big deal. You kept it at 250 degrees for 12 hours. Like, you've mastered it. But this pork, it falls right on my heart.

[Conan O'Brien]

Feels tight.

[Danny McBride]

My chest, I got a. I got a. Like a little B.O. you know, I have a dock. And so I got a Boston Whaler. Like, everybody in. In that area, like, is out.

[Conan O'Brien]

You gotta have a boat, right?

[Danny McBride]

Well, I thought I did. And then I realized I'm not a. I'm not a boat person. I don't owning it. I. I would be responsible for everybody's, like, safety. I would get out there and I would just have the worst time because I'm just sort of, like, so worried that I'm going to kill someone. And I was like, this feels like someone else should be driving this thing. I should be able just to drink and, like, let the wind blow my Hair back. And so, and it's also, boats are so much maintenance. It's like you finish going out and everyone gets to go home and then you got to sit around for like an hour and a half hosing the thing down and like flushing the, the engine out of like, I don't need new chores. I don't, I don't like this. So I, I like let the boat rot for like an hour and a, like a year and a half at the end of my dock. I would just look at it and just, it'd make me feel terrible because I'm like, I have no desire to use that thing I've spent money on. And I would watch it fill with rainwater and barnacles grow on was just a constant reminder of like, you know, you don't have hobbies. You don't even like going out on boats. So I sold that and got rid of that. And yeah, now that's what I'll do. I'll try to find what the next.

[Conan O'Brien]

I love that you have a camouflage shirt and anyone who sees this on video, you're wearing a, a total camouflage hunting shirt. But I doubt you need it. I doubt that you do anything that requires you to wear a camouflage.

[Danny McBride]

I, I, I want to, but yeah, I don't have it in me. Even, even, even honestly, even fishing to an extent, like, everyone fishes down there. It's like, all right, I'll get into fishing. We have this koi pond in our front yard and there was like, we inherited when I bought the place. Like, koi fish there and then this like heron, this bird started coming every day, would be on our roof, would come down and it would pick up the koi fish. But the koi fish are too big for it to eat, so they would just drop them on the, on the, leave them on the side of the ground. I would come home and there would always be dead fish, like leading up there and I, and birds just laughing at you. I, I started a straight up war with this bird where it was, it would, the same one would come every day. And my wife and I had all these tricks. Like I had like left my son's in the beginning. I like left my son's like remote control car down there. And then every time I'd see it, I would the car on to chase it away. And then that evolved into just like Nerf guns where like that thing would come and I would just like run out there like lighting it up. And it, it knew who I was.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think you found your hobby you have a hobby?

[Danny McBride]

Yeah, it's. It's fighting birds.

[Conan O'Brien]

Saving fighting birds without hurting them.

[Matt Gourley]

Did you win?

[Danny McBride]

Did you get rid of. Well, you know what was funny is, like, one day I went out there and I did. I lit that bird up. I. I, like, I. I made full contact with that thing. It flew over the head, and I went back in the house, like. Yeah, got him. The bird flew around to the back of the house and started banging on the window and all over the back of my death. It was like, oh, he knew. He. He knew.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Cut you the bird at a gun store.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah. He's gonna even bring a Nerf gun.

[Matt Gourley]

You bring a real gun?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Danny McBride]

But I think protecting those fish, I. There was a few times where I saved a few. Where I got home and the fish was still flopping on the ground, and I saw the scared look in its eye is I put it back in the water. I was like, I can never fish now. I've ruined it for myself.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm determined now to go. I'm gonna go to Charleston, South Carolina, and hang out and get the word out that I'm ready to hang with Danny McBride.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

But then it's just gonna be really fun that you don't reach out to me. And I know that you're just, like, six miles away.

[Danny McBride]

No, I'll reach out to you, but.

[Conan O'Brien]

What would we do?

[Danny McBride]

Well, there's a few good bars down the street from my house. We probably ride around in golf carts. Maybe we go on a ghost tour.

[Conan O'Brien]

I would love that.

[Danny McBride]

I, I. You know, the. The area where I live, people cruise around on golf carts, and it's. There's no hotels or anything out there. It gets pretty dark after night. And, like, I love to just, like, put the kids in the golf cart, and I literally just, like, play the soundtrack to the Shining and turn the lights and just cruise around the island. It is. It is more frightening than what you could imagine.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. So. So how are they doing, these kids? I worry about it.

[Danny McBride]

They're in therapy.

[Conan O'Brien]

You said they haven't really grown much, and they're terrified all the time.

[Danny McBride]

I remember when we shot Land of the Lost here in Los Angeles, we were. That's, like, one of the only movies I ever worked on that shot on a back lot. That was what I thought all of Hollywood would be. Would be. Like. You'd be on a. On a. You know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sure.

[Danny McBride]

The studio and every movie would be shooting there. I think we were the only movie that was shooting in town that time on the Universal lot. And we would have all these late nights and Will Ferrell and Jorma and I would get in golf carts at the, like, late at night on, like, you know, on these night shoots. And we would drive through Universal Studios when it was closed down, and we would pull up in front of the psycho house, and one by one, you'd have to go up by yourself and knock on the door and it seems so silly. It was scary as shit.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

That does sound scary.

[Danny McBride]

It was. It was. You would freak yourself out. There was no way after you knocked that you would not run back to the golf cart where everybody was and.

[Conan O'Brien]

Then quickly make some jokes like, it wasn't that scary.

[Sona Movsesian]

Don't they have the mom in the window? Yeah, they have her like. Like a mannequin. Not real.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, that might be. I think it's a working actress.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

She's sitting there 24 7.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's so creepy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. She was on a sit. She was on, like, silver spoons. And now that's what she does. This has been an absolute blast. Absolute blast. You've been on our. How do we get. How do we get this man? He's never in la. I'm so happy that you were able to get yourself in here and met you in 2006 and right away was an instant fan. And then everything just has from a distance. I've just watched everything blow up since. For you in all the best ways. And I'm really happy. And Righteous Gemstones is hilarious and great. And this is the final season.

[Danny McBride]

This is the final season. Wrapped it up this season. Yep. I think we've. I think it's our best one yet. I know everyone has to say that to get people to tune in, but I really do think that. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I am so happy for you. And I look forward to the day that I intrude on you in South Carolina.

[Danny McBride]

Yes. Please come down. I'll give you the real tour.

[Conan O'Brien]

Seriously. I mean, I'm a huge. I've been to Fort Sumter. I'm a real nerd. I've toured. I know a little bit too much about. I've gone to the south and I've told people this. I took my wife on when we were newly married. I took her on a drive through Georgia to look at Civil War landmarks, and the marriage almost ended there.

[Danny McBride]

So.

[Conan O'Brien]

Anyway, thank you so much for being here.

[Danny McBride]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Seriously.

[Danny McBride]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

And get a hobby.

[Danny McBride]

I'll try to.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sona. Where else can you go surfing and skiing the same day, huh?

[Sona Movsesian]

I don't know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Or check out a world class art museum and then camp at a dark sky sanctuary that night, huh?

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Where else can you hike through redwoods and then get a luxury spa treatment?

[Sona Movsesian]

Where?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, you live there. California.

[Danny McBride]

California?

[Conan O'Brien]

Son, no matter where you go across the state, you'll find a way to play. I'm a California resident. Sona, you are a lifelong California resident.

[Sona Movsesian]

I'm a lifer. I love this place.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is a beautiful state. Gorgeous. So many different wonderful ecosystems in one state. You can hang out by a Palm Springs pool. You know, you can go whale watching. You can go hiking in Yosemite and then talk about the great cities in California. You get all this amazing food, sushi, whatever you want, they got it in California. Hey, if you can't find it in California, man, you got a problem. Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. I made that up on my own. Anyway, I love California. Discover why California is the ultimate playground. Head to visitcalifornia.com to start planning your trip today. Hey, Sona, do you own a business that's ready to throw?

[Sona Movsesian]

I do.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

I really want my business to thrive.

[Conan O'Brien]

You should. It should. Intuit QuickBooks is an all in one business platform that can help with day to day tasks like invoicing and expenses. You want to be worried about that stuff?

[Sona Movsesian]

That's perfect. That's what I. That's all I do.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

That's my whole business.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Matt Gourley]

A number of episodes ago, we talked about how you lost your beloved and I think long term leather jacket.

[Sona Movsesian]

What?

[Matt Gourley]

Well, weren't you in a long term relationship with this leather jacket?

[Sona Movsesian]

I bought it and I wore it a lot.

[Conan O'Brien]

Aren't you burying the lead? Which is? She lost her house. She lost her house and her leather jacket was in the house.

[Matt Gourley]

This is the first I've heard of that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. Yeah, you're a real sensitive guy. You lost your home in the Altadena fire.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And you are still living. You're living with your parents.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, well, we won't get into that too much. There's some stress there, probably. It's okay. It's all good. I love your Mom, I love your dad.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

But your mom can be a bit much.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, wow.

[Danny McBride]

Oh.

[Sona Movsesian]

We're going to clip it and show her.

[Conan O'Brien]

Quoting you.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

What?

[Danny McBride]

I. I love her.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know. What did you say?

[Sona Movsesian]

What did you say?

[Conan O'Brien]

I love her.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I was quoting you, and you said she. You know, you and your mom clash sometimes.

[Sona Movsesian]

We. We do.

[Conan O'Brien]

Your two strong personalities. Because you love each other very much.

[Sona Movsesian]

I adore my mom. But we have a generational dividend and a cultural divide.

[Conan O'Brien]

There you go. So, anyway, house burns down. Yes. And among the things you lost was the leather jacket you've been wearing since the day I met you.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You've had that jacket forever. And sometimes I would kid you about the jacket because sometimes you would wear it every day. You wouldn't mix it up too much.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay, I loved that jacket.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm sorry. It went. And what did I do?

[Sona Movsesian]

What did I do?

[Conan O'Brien]

I forget. I forget what I did. Oh, my God.

[Matt Gourley]

Okay, then I guess we have nothing else to talk about.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, okay. Well, okay. So it's still. They still make this jacket, and I found it, and you very generously offered to buy me a new one. So I went with your credit card, which I have, and I know bought a new jacket for myself.

[Conan O'Brien]

I got an alert that this. They were very suspicious of you using my card. Okay. Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

And then. But then I realized what I did was I just bought you, like, ammo for me.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Sona Movsesian]

And that's not. I don't know why I did that.

[Matt Gourley]

That's why he did it in the first place.

[Conan O'Brien]

There was a jacket I made fun of, and then it was lost in this tragic fire, and I needed the jacket replaced immediately. So I could make fun of the jacket. So I could make fun of the jacket again.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm ironic as you're sitting here in a leather jacket.

[Danny McBride]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

It's like I'm sitting with Mad Max and the Red Baron right now. This is amazing.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, problem is not that it's a leather jacket. I love leather jackets. It's just that she only wore one jacket. And I swear to God, you wore.

[Sona Movsesian]

It to everything I did wear it to. I. It fit me like a glove. It was, like, stretched in this.

[Conan O'Brien]

When your kids were christened in that beautiful church and I was the Godfather, and it was a beautiful ceremony. I'm wearing a suit. Liza's wearing a dress. People are wearing robes. You're there wearing Dr. Zayas's jacket from.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay. Come on. It's so cool. Don't I look cool in it though.

[Conan O'Brien]

No one looks cool. Who says don't I look cool?

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes, I do though. I look so cool in it.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a great jacket and I'm happy. And you know what? I'm happy that you this back.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, me too. I am too. Glad you claim a lot of the things that we lost. We've been trying to find versions of it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, what you. There is one thing in particular, isn't there, that you guys lost A poster. What is it?

[Sona Movsesian]

A cell. An animation cell from King of the Hill that Tak loved. And so it's the first time I've ever really done this. I asked Greg Daniels, my old writing partner and good friends and who I've gotten to know really well over the last few years and not few years, but many years time I've been working for you. And I asked him, I said, do you have any or know where I could get one? And he gave Tack the exact one that he lost. And it felt like it was just coming back from the dead.

[Conan O'Brien]

Greg, you're a mensch. He's a really good guy.

[Sona Movsesian]

It was really nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

Shout out to Greg Daniels.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's so nice. So you're so slowly you're going to rebuild your life by getting back some of the objects.

[Sona Movsesian]

I lost $100,000.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's a lie. You're just lying now. And guess what? It had real sentimental value.

[Sona Movsesian]

Special bills.

[Conan O'Brien]

I remember you. That paper bag of $100,000 with $100,000 meant so much to you.

[Sona Movsesian]

Special to me.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

And I really wish I had it again.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I guess there's one thing we can do.

[Danny McBride]

What are you gonna do?

[Conan O'Brien]

Get some monopoly boards, Get a lot of fake money and put it together? No, but I bet you there are a bunch of things we could go through and get.

[Sona Movsesian]

I hope so. I mean, it is. It does feel like you're bringing things back from the dead, which is cool. This jacket meant a lot. I loved this jacket. And I really thank you for doing it. Although I do know you're. You're just doing it so you could keep the rift going.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, that's part of the reason I did it. But there's 10% of it. 90% was keep the riff going so I can continue to bash away at you. And then there's 10%, which is I love you and I want you to be happy.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's very nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you. 90%. Total. Total.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, guns blazing.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Gotta get you.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

I know. Make you feel bad.

[Sona Movsesian]

I sure. Yeah, I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you had a happy ending.

[Danny McBride]

Yes, did.

[Conan O'Brien]

And did you. You didn't lose anything in the fire, did you?

[Matt Gourley]

I'm sorry to say I didn't, no.

[Conan O'Brien]

It is weird. There's a survivor's guilt. Of course. I'm telling you, there is. There is totally a survivor's guilt in LA right now when I've. I mean, I've talked about this, but I've been very open about the fire. That fire got really close to my house and filled it with smoke, and I'm still not back in it. We've been out since the fire, so it's been months now since I've lived in my house and it all has to get cleaned out and everything, but you can't. There's nothing. I'm just. Still, I'm grateful. I'm very grateful that my house still exists. And if I ever catch myself saying to anybody, my sneakers, my Brooks sneakers got a little. They. They have good arch support for when I run. And, well, they got a little smoky. And so they have to be wiped off because they got smoky. And then you're. You're probably standing next to somebody who lost their house.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

So keep my mouth shut.

[Matt Gourley]

You lost your house. You can't go back to your house. That's why I feel like I have guilt all around. Survivor's guilt all around. I feel like I want to sleep in a tent in my front yard.

[Sona Movsesian]

You should.

[Matt Gourley]

No, that's going too far.

[Sona Movsesian]

You should.

[Conan O'Brien]

I can't.

[Sona Movsesian]

It would feel really good with smoke.

[Danny McBride]

Well, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Toxic smoke. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad that you. We got that back and we'll get other things back, you'll see.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Peace out, Tupac.

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