Knife Porn

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Episode Title: Knife Porn
Release Date: July 23, 2026
Host: Conan O’Brien
Guests: Sona Movsesian, David Hopping, Fan Guest Josh Frost (Bladesmith)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Conan connects with Josh Frost, a professional bladesmith from Liverpool, New York. The conversation dives into the fascinating world of knife making, exploring the artistry, technical skills, and quirks of modern bladesmiths. With plenty of Conan’s trademark humor, the team learns about what makes a great knife, the challenges of forging steel, and the oddities of running a knife business in a digital world. The episode is playful, nerdy, and loaded with banter about craftsmanship, strange tests for knife makers, and some truly awkward (and hilarious) moments involving knives, fighting, and, yes, bathroom humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Josh Frost, Bladesmith

• [01:36] Conan welcomes Josh from Liverpool, New York, and quickly delves into his unique craft—professional bladesmithing.
• Conan expresses his love for knives.

  “I really do love a knife.” – Conan [02:34]

2. How Does One Become a Bladesmith?

• Josh explains he left middle management to pursue bladesmithing, motivated by the prohibitive cost of custom knives (often $3,000–$10,000).
• Factors affecting knife cost include materials, craftsmanship, and maker reputation. [03:49–04:24]
• Conan and the team humorously try to guess how knives are made, including melting metals and using polymers, before Josh steps in to clarify the real process.
• Josh outlines the essential tools for forging a knife:
  • Steel: Josh’s preference is Shiragami “white paper” steel from Japan. [06:19]
  • A Heat Source: Needed to reach forging temperature (~1,800°F).
  • Hammer & Anvil: For shaping steel. Josh forges his own hammers. [06:19–07:54]
  • Notable joke:

    “I know you couldn’t swing this Conan, but I’ve got a smaller one for you.” – Josh [07:54]
    “My arms are so weak. My tiny hammer.” – Conan [18:41]

3. The Path to Journeyman Bladesmith

• Josh describes the American Bladesmith Society’s rigorous apprenticeship process—first becoming an apprentice, then journeyman, and eventually master bladesmith.
• Knife test for certification:
  • Forge a 10-inch blade
  • Cut through a 1-inch rope in one swipe
  • Chop through two 2x4s
  • Must remain sharp enough to shave hair

    “And then what hair do you choose to shave?” – Conan [10:30]

• Humorous detour: Conan, Sona, and David riff on inappropriate ways to prove a knife’s sharpness, envisioning a test involving public manscaping. [10:34–11:07]
• Final step: Knife must be bent 90° in a vise without cracking to show durability. [11:59–12:12]

4. The Art, Craft, and Joy of Making Knives

• Josh keeps his original test knife as a memento, despite Conan’s OCD urge to “fix the knife.”
• Josh offers Conan a chance to visit his forge and try straightening the knife himself. [13:20–13:33; 18:30–18:54]
• Josh reassures Conan that bladesmithing is a learnable skill, even for “unmanly” guys, and explains the satisfaction found in traditional crafts.

  “It’s shocking how many people have a natural aptitude for forging.” – Josh [19:14]

5. Bladesmith Life: Beyond Knives

• Josh reveals he also does beekeeping, weaving, knitting, crocheting, and other traditional skills, prompting Conan’s jokes about burning witches. [19:46–20:01]
• Discussion about the masculine image of artisans like Nick Offerman and the appeal of “making things.” [20:13]

6. Custom Knives and Knife Porn

• Josh’s business is custom and word-of-mouth; he doesn’t make “one-off” knives for general sale.
• Conan presses Josh on his awful business acumen—Josh can’t remember his own website URL on air.

  “If you can’t find your own website, it’s come full circle.” – Conan [30:49]

• Sona and Conan joke about the phrase “knife porn,” and Josh says:

  “There is knife porn, and it’s not fun.” – Josh [30:34]

• They riff further about dangerous gifts from Joel McHale (knives, illegal switchblades), concealing knives from kids, and the TSA “ruining the knife business.” [23:19–27:56]

7. Types of Knives—For Conan, Sona, and More

• On Conan’s knife: He wants a practical, pocket-style blade—doesn’t want to carry a sheath.
• Josh demonstrates a “blacksmith knife”—a simple, all-metal utility blade—with a distinctive one-piece design. [24:43]
• On Sona’s knife: Josh suggests Sona deserves a “dark, curvaceous” blade, leading to a long, silly exchange about slicing enemies and very specific revenge scenarios. [25:39–26:04]
• Conan sums up:

  “You are an artist. So cool.” – Conan [27:00]

8. Final Banter & Goodbyes

• Conan tries to promote Josh but laments his lack of a promotable website or Etsy store, which Josh shrugs off.
• The hosts tease Josh about this “terrible business plan” and inability to direct listeners to his work. [29:19–30:13]
• Conan closes by sincerely complimenting Josh’s skills and humor, wishing to meet in person someday. [31:18–31:58]

• “I salute you because you know how to do something. We live in a world where increasingly people don’t know how to do things...” – Conan [28:31]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On custom knives:

  “All my business is word of mouth... I’d talk to you about it, and I would say, you know, what are the qualities of the knife? How are you going to use it?” – Josh [21:59]

• Knife test mishaps:

  “If I go to a journeyman bladesmith contest and I’m not seeing dicks, something's wrong.” – Conan [11:11]

• On TSA foiling knife carriers:

  “There was a period of time there where I would forget because I loved carrying around a knife... Then bing, bing, bing, you have to give it to them and they take it. And my gun. And my sword that I hide in a cane.” – Conan [27:35]

• On Josh’s business approach:

  “A terrible businessman—he can’t remember his own website!” – Conan [29:19]

• Summing up the craft:

  “You are an artist. So cool.” – Conan [27:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:36] – Guest introduction; Liverpool, NY; beginnings in bladesmithing
• [03:49] – Knife cost and the realities of making them
• [06:19] – Materials, tools needed: steel, heat, hammer, anvil
• [08:38] – Explanation of master vs. journeyman bladesmith and rigorous test
• [10:30] – Knife test shaving joke sequence
• [13:20–13:33] – Conan’s OCD about the bent knife; Josh invites him to try forging
• [19:14] – Who can learn bladesmithing; appeal of traditional crafts
• [21:59] – Custom orders and approach to knife making
• [24:43] – Demonstration of a blacksmith knife
• [25:39] – Hypothetical: Sona’s deadly blade and revenge scenarios
• [27:35] – TSA and knife-carrying stories
• [29:19–30:13] – Josh’s website confusion; business banter
• [31:18–31:58] – Closing compliments and farewell

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Recap

A hilarious and unexpectedly informative journey into the art of bladesmithing, “Knife Porn” is loaded with Conan’s irreverent wit. The episode blends genuine curiosity about an ancient craft with sharp (pun intended) banter about masculinity, artisanal skills, custom knifework, and the perils of TSA for knife enthusiasts. Fan guest Josh Frost holds his own, serving up both expertise and dry humor, even if he can't quite pitch his own business. The episode is perfect for anyone interested in making things by hand—or just loves hearing Conan riff with passionate, offbeat superfans.

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[B]

Hey, Josh.

[A]

Welcome to Conan O' Brien needs a fan. Hi.

[B]

How you doing?

[A]

Hey, how are you, Josh? I am fantastic.

[B]

I'm nervous.

[A]

You shouldn't be. No, you shouldn't be nervous, Josh. We're just people. Well, David and Sona are just people, but you shouldn't be nervous because it's two people and a living God.

[B]

There it is. Right, right. So no. No pressure.

[A]

No pressure at all.

[B]

Just two regular phones for 30 years. Oh, wow.

[A]

Well, Josh, so nice to chat with you. You're coming to us from Liverpool, New York. I didn't know there was a Liverpool, New York, but. So that's upstate.

[B]

There is, yeah. Yeah, Upstate, Syracuse.

[A]

Okay, very good. And you forge blades, is that correct?

[B]

That's true. Yeah. I'm a professional bladesmith.

[A]

You're a bladesmith? I didn't know it was called Bladesmith. I love that. Yeah, I love a knife. I'm gonna tell you up front right now, Josh.

[B]

I do.

[A]

I really do love a knife.

[C]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

I love a knife. I love it when I need to do something and there happens to be a knife in my pocket, you know, What?

[B]

I mean, no.

[A]

I don't know why everyone's laughing.

[D]

I have seen.

[A]

I agree with you. I'm really happy.

[B]

That seems like the knife that really would suit you actually. Well, you know, a little tiny, you know, little pocket knife, like in a. And maybe like in the nail clippers. You know, you flick out that thing in the nail clippers and he's not nervous anymore.

[C]

I'm complimenting him. He just. He literally drove a knife through your heart.

[A]

Yeah, his.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

His finest blade is the one he just slipped between my fifth and sixth rib.

[B]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to do that.

[A]

Well, nicely done, Josh. I guess.

[B]

And I don't want to create an adversarial environment. I don't. You don't like what else? No, I don't.

[C]

You don't?

[B]

No. That was a weird choice.

[A]

Then. I'll get on Conan's good side.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Let's talk about. Because I don't know anything about knives really, how they're made. And I wonder how you got into this. Tell us the origin story of Josh Frost up in Liverpool, New York. What happened? How did you start making blades?

[B]

Right, So I was working in middle management in sales. And you wanted to kill someone. I mean, it was not that extreme, I think, but I just wanted a nice knife. And I found out that. That I did some research and I found out that really nice knives were between 3 and $10,000. So.

[A]

Yeah. Why is that?

[B]

For a number of different reasons. It can be for the materials. It can be for the craftsmanship, the provenance of the knife who made it, but also the difficulty in constructing the knife.

[A]

Right.

[B]

There are a number of different materials that you can use and processes that exist, but some. Not all knives are. Are created equal. So. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So different types of steel makes it make. Make one type or another, blend.

[A]

Sometimes materials, you know, you've got a little. You've got a certain kind of steel in there, but then a different kind of steel. And then you put a little tungsten in there and then you put a little.

[B]

Right.

[C]

You, like melt it and stuff.

[A]

Is that true?

[B]

Am I describing this correctly? Why am I don't. Hey, I do not.

[A]

I asked you how a knife is made, and then I go, you guys are trying to figure about my theory of how knives are made. When I'm talking to a man who

[C]

makes knives, you said tungsten.

[B]

Right. So no.

[A]

Anyway, say various polymers.

[B]

You can actually. Well, alloys. You can say alloys. Alloys.

[A]

David, I'm an ally and I love Alloys.

[B]

My problem is. Ally.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

It can get really nerdy, so I'm just going to go over to the right place.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I think it says in my notes that you claim there's only three things you need to make a knife. Tell us what those three things are.

[B]

So you need to forge a knife. So you can. I think any asshole can just put a knife, you know, put a piece of steel on a. On a file and just file the metal away and kind of make the general knife shaped object.

[A]

This is one asshole who could not do that.

[B]

Right. But you could and I am teach

[A]

you how to do it. I represent a giant swath of assholes and I would not be able to do that.

[B]

Right.

[C]

You would be putting polymers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tungsten in it, but yeah, polymers.

[B]

Let's just, let's put some epoxy in there.

[A]

I put polydent in there, an adhesive, dentures.

[B]

We'll put some. Squirt some glue on it. Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll help.

[A]

Okay, so you need, anyway you need.

[B]

You need a heat source to forge a knife. So you need, you need steel, which is something like this. This is, this is what my knives are made of. And what I'm showing is about an inch and a half by a quarter inch bar of steel. This particular steel is called Shiragami white paper number two. And it's probably my favorite blade steel to, to forge and make knives out of.

[A]

Is it come from Japan?

[B]

It does, yes.

[A]

Okay, that's a guess.

[B]

Hitachi.

[A]

If it was o' Callahan grade seven steel. That's some of that in my shop. That's a Dublin. That's a Dublin knife. Hey, I gotta have the Okanahan steel. Oh, so you need a heat source

[B]

and you need, you need a heat source. Yeah, because it's got to be heated up to forging temperature, which is about it. It varies, but it's right around 1800 degrees Fahrenheit.

[A]

What's the surface of the sun? What's the temperature of the surface of the sun?

[B]

I don't. Did you think we all like 4,500 degrees, something like that?

[A]

Is it 4,500 degrees? Eduardo's looking it up, but I just, I think it's really cool. What's that?

[D]

It's warm.

[A]

Oh, that's the Southern Illinois scientist over there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What do you got?

[B]

5,500.

[A]

5,500 degrees Celsius. Okay, 55. So that would be.

[B]

So now we all know that would

[A]

be a, A good heat source. I guess the sun of Course it powers the.

[C]

So, yes, you just need a spaceship

[B]

and go to the sensor. So you need a heat source and you need something like a hammer. This is handmade. I like my own blacksmithing, bladesmithing hammers.

[A]

That's a cool looking hammer. It's like Lil Thor carries that hammer.

[B]

Yeah, there you go. You know, and I know you swing this. I know you couldn't swing this Conan, but I've got a smaller one like this where it would probably be easier for you to swing.

[A]

Josh, Josh, what's going on here? What's going on? I came to you in friendship. You say you're a big fan and yet the dis.

[B]

You always tell people you're looking out for your girlish figure. So I want to make sure that, that I, that I, that I, you know, cater to that desire.

[A]

And well, I.

[B]

So yeah, yeah.

[A]

What I'm saying is I'm looking out for a girlish figure. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, my God. So, yeah, no, you need an anvil. You need something to smash the steel with. Yes.

[A]

You need a hard surface, a couple of hammers, heat source. Now you have risen in the ranks. You are a proud. You're a master bladesmith. How do you become a master bladesmith?

[B]

I am not. Oh, you're not a master bladesmith? Unfortunately, no. I'm a. I'm a journeyman.

[A]

You're a journeyman bladesmith.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[A]

This is my fault. This is not the research's fault. Uh, you, you present.

[B]

You have to.

[A]

In order to become a journeyman, you have to. You're rated by master bladesmiths. Is that correct?

[B]

Right? That's correct. So after you, you join the American Bladesmith Society as an apprentice and you have to go through schooling and learning and all that other good stuff and then you have to test to see whether or not you've acquired enough knowledge and skill to proceed to the journeyman bladesmith level. So the tests are really rigorous. What you have to do is you have to build a knife. It's got a 10 inch long blade. Actually, I have mine.

[A]

Let's check it out.

[B]

This is the, this is the test knife that I made.

[A]

It's like a scimitar.

[B]

It cuts around corners. Now, but yeah, if your foe is just.

[A]

If your faux or right or the watermelon you're slicing is just around a corner, this is the blade for you.

[B]

But I did, I didn't make this curve myself deliberately so.

[A]

Oh, that was a mistake. Was that a mistake?

[B]

No, that was from the testing. Oh, I see. So what you have to do is you have to make a blade that can one first cut through a one inch rope in one swipe. Then it has to chop through two, two by fours entirely. Then it has to. Then it has to shave hair after because, you know, the chopping of the two by fours would dull a knife with a bad heat treatment. And so you have to shave hair with it. And then what hair do you choose to shave? I chose my arm hair.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Can you choose any hair to shave?

[B]

I think so. You could? Yeah.

[A]

Could you, in front of the master bladesmith's manscape with your blade? It's a question. It's a valid question. Drop trow.

[B]

It's a valid question.

[A]

It's time to test the knife. Drop trowel, but lit.

[C]

It's a show of confidence.

[A]

Yes, it's a show of confidence.

[C]

That would be a great.

[A]

I would drop trowel and I'd say it's time to go to work on the old Don Johnson.

[B]

Watch this. All right. I'm not scared at all. Yeah, no, it's. It might not be that kind of crowd. Bladesmithing folks are. Boo.

[A]

Bunch of squares.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You just want to see a bunch of dicks at this thing and just shaving.

[A]

If I go to a. If I go to a journeyman bladesmith contest and I'm not seeing dicks, something's wrong. Something's wrong. But I say that about everything. I watch the Great British, there's something wrong. No, I watch the Great British Bake off and I say, where are the cocks?

[B]

What? No dicks.

[A]

They're making scones and I'm not seeing cock.

[C]

What the fuck?

[B]

Okay, so.

[A]

All right, let's rein it in and. Josh, Josh, you took us down a really dirty road there.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And that's not you.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That was all Josh who brought up. He started it.

[A]

He started it. He started it with his little knife comment.

[B]

So now we know where it is.

[A]

So you got to shave. You got to be able to shave the hair. Okay, Got it?

[B]

Yeah. Then you stick the knife into a vise, and you have to bend it 90 degrees. So the. The. The blade has to be in a knife and you have to take the handle.

[A]

That just ruins the knife, doesn't it?

[B]

Well, no. I mean, it doesn't. It does if your knife is a piece of crap and breaks. So. But they. This. I mean, I kept this just for nostalgic purposes. I could heat this back up, straighten it out, and refinish it, and it would be just fine. There are no cracks in it. There's no. There's no other stresses in there, so. But I choose to keep it like this, obviously for sentimental value.

[A]

I'd straighten it. If I were you, I'd straighten it. It's a nice blade and you've got. It's, you know, it's core memory.

[B]

I have other.

[A]

Straighten it out.

[B]

Fix it.

[A]

Fix the knife. Okay, Cool. Memory.

[C]

It's nice.

[A]

I literally do have an OC thing going on right now where I'm like, I want that knife fixed.

[C]

But it's a nice memento from when he had to do this test, isn't it?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I did? I was. Someone let me borrow a BMW, a really nice one, and I backed it up into a fence and it cracked it up. But I keep it that way just for sentimental values.

[C]

Not the same thing. That didn't make you a journeyman.

[A]

I'm just saying fix the knife. It bothers me that right now it's

[B]

a crash of car. I'll make a deal with you. If you come out here to my forge and get your hands dirty and get in the fire, I will let you hammer on that knife and straighten it.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

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[C]

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[B]

No, you will straighten the knife.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You will put it in the fire. You will take this hammer if. Well, I do have a smaller hammer again, you know, in case you have.

[A]

Oh, thank you. My arms are so weak. My tiny hammer, so.

[B]

But I'll teach you how to do it. And you can straighten the knife out for me, thereby alleviating all of the OCD problems you have with my bent knife.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Josh, the time has come for you to tell me, do you think I'd be any good at this? Could I learn this? Because I think it would be nice to have a manly skill at the moment. I do not have any manly skills. I have some unmanly skills, but you know what I'm saying. Is this something I could learn? Do I have the qualities of a good bladesmith?

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's shocking how many people have a natural aptitude for forging. I was just teaching a student three days ago who was worried scared of the forge. It's a big, hot, scary thing, you know? And you're beaten on this glowing, incandescent piece of steel, and you know what the hell you're doing, but with just a little Bit of instruction. It just comes out. I don't know. There's a weird thing. It's one of the reasons why I really like the anachronistic stuff of pre rev. Pre industrial, you know, humanity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I. I don't just do knives. I'm. I'm a beekeeper. I. I weave my own yarn. I crochet, I knit. I. I mean, the list just goes on and on. You burn witches. I don't. I like witches.

[A]

All the old fun stuff.

[B]

But yes, absolutely, you can. I absolutely can do it. So if you don't. If you don't. If you don't do it with me, do it somewhere else.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

I like what you're made of. See it come out.

[A]

I do think that, you know, a guy who comes to mind who I admire greatly is Nick Offerman. Talented actor, just a wonderful man. He's really good at making things that he can make a canoe. He can, you know, he can build a house. He builds beautiful furniture. I've been to his house and. And he just will point to some of the furniture that's just gorgeous. And he's like, oh, yeah, I've made that. I. I'm just so, you know.

[C]

Well, there's something cool, too. Like when he said he made swords, I was like, is it like back in the. You know. Yeah, you're banging, they're wearing an apron and they're just banging.

[A]

Do you wear, like.

[C]

It sounds like it's the same.

[A]

Do you wear an apron?

[B]

That's exactly what it is. Yeah.

[A]

Is it a leather apron?

[B]

Yes, it is. Yeah.

[A]

I thought.

[B]

And I made it myself. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So, yeah, it's a leather apron and I made it. But, yeah, my, My swordsmithing is. Is. I do it. I do all. I do bladesmithing and swordsmithing and. And tool work and tooling. Blacksmithing. So.

[A]

Okay, I am into knives. And if I was going to get a knife. Purchase a knife from you. Do you sell them?

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

If I was to purchase a knife from you, which I think is highly probable, I want a knife. What kind of. You can't have a knife. What kind of knife do you think I would be looking for?

[B]

Well, the. If you were to purchase a knife for me, we would have to. All. All the people who buy my knives are collectors, and I make them custom one at a time. I don't. I don't just. I don't make one off knives, although I do have my signature knives that I make.

[C]

You don't have An Etsy store.

[B]

I don't know. All my, all of my business is word of mouth. So.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The, all of the work is done. Custom. So I would talk to you about it, and I would say, you know, what are the qualities of the knife? How are you going to use it? That's very important because you could have, like, kitchen cutlery or a camping knife or, you know, fighting knife if you want to get into that kind of stuff, which I really highly doubt.

[A]

But, yeah, I don't think, I mean, I would, like, I don't want to fight someone else who has a knife. I'd fight someone. So, like this. I would fight someone if I had a knife and they didn't.

[B]

That.

[C]

You. You'd have. That's a cool knife for you. Cones.

[B]

This knife is a, is a fighter. So it's one of the, this is one of my signature blades. Beautiful. So that's a, that's a fighting.

[A]

And because it's a podcast. Tell us. It's a. It looks to be, it's smaller than a bowie knife.

[B]

Right. It's about, it's about the size of a bowie, but it's a fighting knife, so the taper is tighter towards the tip for better penetration, I guess you would say. Wow. It's got a coffin guard, a stainless coffin guard, and nickel silver bolster. It's got koa handle with a nickel silver pin for the mechanical connection. Beautiful handle. And the knife. Thanks.

[A]

But see, that's a knife. That's a fantastic knife.

[C]

Do you want a sword?

[A]

No, I don't want a sword. And I'll just reveal this now. My friend, Joel McHale, wonderful fellow, beloved by all, well, by some. Joel loves knives, swords, all kinds of stuff like that. And so for a long time, he's been gifting me the most dangerous things in the world. I think sometimes they're illegal. Yeah, he'll gift me, like, a switchblade that shoots out of the handle, which I don't think is.

[B]

Oh, yeah, in the United States.

[A]

But I love it. And I have them. I always, you know, because I had young kids for a long time, and I, so I would hide them all over the house, away from kids. And sometimes to fool the kids, I would put them in the chest of toys because I think that's the last place they're going to look, which turned out not to be true. They would go to their toy chest all the time. So there were those murders to clean up. But I, I, I have a ton of knives from Joel, and I can see the Appeal. But I do think the most useful thing for me is a blade that can go in your pocket. It's because I'm not someone who wants to be carrying a knife around in a sheath. Do you know what I mean? That's just not going to happen.

[B]

Right, That's.

[A]

Well, if I was walking in a forest that was filled with bears, then maybe.

[C]

Or how about your belt?

[B]

Look, I make these little guys.

[A]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

And this. This is a. Is what's called a blacksmith knife. So there's. There's no, like, handle material. This. These are the kind of knives that blacksmiths would hammer out. Just as, like, whittling knives or, you know, whatever the case. Right.

[A]

It's got a metal handle. It's got no wood. It's got a little loop.

[B]

It's all one piece. Yep. So it's all one piece. So this is the. This is the blade part, and then this part right here. I don't know, you probably can't see because my camera's crappy, but it comes all the way down and then it loops up and then there's another curl right in here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a very sweet design.

[B]

Facilitate you being able to hold it in your hand and so it doesn't cut you when you stab somebody with it.

[A]

Does that.

[B]

Did I say that? Not stab somebody. Said it when you use it to poke at the.

[A]

You said when you.

[B]

When it's.

[A]

When you.

[B]

It's a good.

[A]

It's a handy thing to have when you kill and kill again, is what you said. Let's go stab him over a wide swath of the Pacific Northwest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

Sona would have a totally different knife, though.

[A]

What would you.

[B]

Sona would have a different knife. Yeah, Sona. Okay. So I think about Sona as, like, this, you know, beautiful, dark, curvaceous person. Easy, buddy. Easy, buddy. That will. Her husband will literally slice you open. That'll literally slice you open and shit inside your heart. Yeah, she would do that. Really?

[C]

Just. Is. Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's cool.

[C]

That's good for shitting.

[B]

Hey.

[C]

What?

[B]

This is.

[A]

What are you talking about? Good for shitting? What are you talking about?

[C]

They sliced a guy open and shit in his heart. So I'm just saying that's good for shitting.

[A]

The amount of thought that would have to go into. I'm gonna kill him. But first, I need to eat a big Thanksgiving dinner and wait about nine and have a lot of coffee.

[C]

I know.

[A]

You stay right there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Is this Boston Market? I would like if three Thanksgiving dinners brought over, meet immediately. And some coffee, lots of black coffee. And you stay right there. Hey, victim. Stay right there. Oh, I got some coming your way. So Josh.

[B]

But yeah. Anyway.

[A]

A karamba.

[C]

That's a cool knife.

[A]

It's a cool knife. And it looks like a feather. I mean, you're very art. You're. You're an art. You're an artist. You are an artist. So cool.

[C]

Very, very cool.

[A]

Do you honored. I mean, yeah. I just think here's the thing that's been deadly for your business, the tsa, so many times. So many times someone will give me a knife and I. What I don't want to do is, you know, forget, and it's in my pocket, and then bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. And then you have to. Either you're tackled or you have to give it to them and they take it. I mean, there was a period of time there where I would forget because I used to. I loved carrying around a knife and it comes in so handy. But you know, you go to the airport, you're in a hurry, and then it's like, oh, shit, you know, I've got my knife. I forgot I have my knife with me and my gun and my. And my sword that I hide in a cane.

[B]

You don't want to do that.

[A]

My ninja throwing stars. I mean, I would forget. All that stuff's in my pocket.

[C]

No.

[A]

And that's a big.

[C]

Put it in your check in bag. You should put it in your check in.

[A]

I try not to check. I almost do carry on.

[C]

I know, but you can't have knives and weapons and stuff.

[A]

No, no, I am. Listen, I'm totally down with the TSA and tsa. I salute you. It's good work you do. And you know what? Sometimes I go back again for an extra pat down, if you know what I'm saying. You know, a man gets lonely.

[B]

So I've.

[A]

I've said, you know what? I'm not satisfied. I am not satisfied, sir. I am not satisfied. I'd like you to work me over one more time and really get in there.

[C]

Put the glove on. Let's go. Caviar.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remind me a drink first. All my TSA stuff is so good. It's all so funny. But I think you are very talented. These look like. And I salute you because you know how to do something. We live in a world where increasingly people don't know how to do things other than scroll their little devices. And I'm so impressed by that. I'm so impressed by what you're doing. And how do we. Do you have a website or anything? How do people find. Look at your wares?

[B]

I do, but it's a janky website that's like. That's old. That doesn't get really updated very much.

[A]

Yes, from medieval times.

[C]

Do you have a grant?

[B]

Right? Pretty much. I don't, do I? Yes.

[A]

Can I say you're a terrible businessman.

[C]

This is awful. He's giving me an opportunity.

[A]

I speak to a huge audience. A very successful podcast. I'm asking you. Well, how does one get these? That's a whole other story. Not sure I can help you. You got to go up there yonder

[B]

where the Crick is. It's a wick site, so it's J. Frost Knives. Let's see. Let's see if I can find it.

[A]

Oh, he forgets it. You're trying to find your own site.

[B]

You can't remember? Yeah, I don't have it. Like.

[A]

Okay, well, listen, you know, somebody wants. You're going to be dead in that house six weeks before they find you.

[B]

I think it's you, actually.

[A]

Knives.com.

[B]

i think.

[A]

Frostknives.com.

[B]

yeah, it's J Frost knives. JSoft's JFrost knives. J. Frost.

[A]

Anyone listening? Don't even try to look these up. Do not buy these knives. You have to be punished. Fear. And you know what? You're gonna learn over time. I was handed an amazing business opportunity anyone else would die for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you were like, I don't know. Website. Hmm. Well, there's one. No, that's not it.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It used to be.

[B]

Right. Let's see.

[A]

Okay, it doesn't matter. What's he doing now? Now he's just Googling himself. He's just looking at pornography.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I really am.

[A]

He took a break to look at pornography. Kona's upsetting me.

[C]

I need to knife porn.

[A]

Yeah. Ooh, good. Knife porn. There must be knife porn.

[C]

People being sliced open and shitting at each other.

[B]

There is knife porn, and it's not fun.

[A]

Okay, Josh, your time is up.

[B]

Don't do it.

[A]

Josh, I salute you. It's so nice to meet you.

[C]

He was looking for it.

[A]

Yeah. When a man can't find. That's like you can't find your own asshole with a map, you know, if you can't find your own website, it's come full circle.

[B]

Now for the. You know the fingernail clipper knife poke I had at him earlier? It's full circle.

[A]

You can't find your website. You don't deserve to have, uh. Oh, look at him. Look at him drinking his bad businessman juice.

[B]

Oh, here we go.

[A]

Josh, I salute you. I really do. I think you're very. You're funny, you're a cool guy, and I think these knives look awesome. And if I ever find a way to look at them, I might buy one.

[B]

Yeah, I thought you. I really thought you guys had a link already, so.

[A]

Oh, is that our fault? We'll.

[B]

We'll do a pickup, okay?

[A]

Yeah, well, the fact. No, we won't. Okay, let's not. Let's not do a pickup.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

What? I want people to hear what a terrible businessman Josh is.

[C]

They will.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Touch nothing. You know, we. We show people our. Our every wartime. Josh, you take care and continue your fine work and I'll see you on the flip flop. I hope we meet in person.

[B]

I hope so too. Thanks very much for having me.

[A]

Take care, man.

[D]

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