Long In The Leg

Summary

Summary of "Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend" Episode: "Long In The Leg"

Podcast: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Host: Conan O’Brien
Guest: Micah
Release Date: March 27, 2025
Produced by: Team Coco & Earwolf

In the episode titled "Long In The Leg," Conan O’Brien engages in a lively and humorous conversation with Micah, a high-fashion model from Amsterdam. This episode delves into Micah’s modeling career, personal life, and the dynamics of forming genuine friendships—a central theme of Conan’s podcast.

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1. Introduction and Setting the Stage

The episode kicks off with Conan humorously addressing life’s personal wins, setting a playful tone for the conversation.

• [00:32] Conan O'Brien: "Sona, wouldn't you say that life is full of personal wins?"

While brief ads for Apple Card and State Farm are interspersed, the main content begins when Micah joins the conversation.

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2. Welcoming Micah

Conan warmly welcomes Micah to the show, immediately establishing a friendly rapport.

• [01:34] Conan O'Brien: "Hi, Micah. How are you?"
• [01:40] Micah: "Thank you for pronouncing my name correctly. Wow."

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3. Exploring Micah's Modeling Career

The discussion transitions to Micah’s extensive experience in the modeling industry, highlighting her early start and longevity.

• [04:01] Conan O'Brien: "Oh, my God. Well, that makes perfect sense. You are extraordinarily beautiful. So thank you. You really are."
• [04:23] Micah: "Yes, I started when I was 13 and I'm 30 now, which is... I want to say old within this industry, really, for a very long time."

Conan acknowledges the changes in the industry, particularly regarding the appropriate ages to begin modeling.

• [04:37] Conan O'Brien: "Oh, they don't do that."
• [04:42] Micah: "Yes. There are rules now."

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4. Conan's Height and Modeling Potential

A humorous exchange ensues about Conan’s towering height and whether it suits him for modeling.

• [05:55] Micah: "I'm 6ft. How tall are you?"
• [05:57] Conan O'Brien: "Oh, my Lord. I'm 6 4. But if I've got gel in the hair, I'm 6, 7, 6 8."

Conan jokes about his long legs, contemplating if he could pursue a modeling career despite his age.

• [07:15] Micah: "Yes, I think that would be beautiful."
• [07:16] Conan O'Brien: "Long legs, beautiful."

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5. Personal Life and Relationships

The conversation shifts to Micah’s personal life, specifically her relationship with her boyfriend, Robert.

• [12:02] Micah: "I am in a relationship with a man called Robert."
• [12:09] Conan O'Brien: "Is Robert also from Amsterdam or did you meet him someplace?"

Micah explains how they met and Robert’s preferences, setting the stage for later humorous tensions.

• [12:21] Conan O'Brien: "How tall is Robert?"
• [12:24] Micah: "He's six one."

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6. Conan's Quest for Modeling Advice

Conan seeks Micah’s honest opinion on whether he has what it takes to be a model, highlighting his self-deprecating humor.

• [06:33] Micah: "I think yes. I think also nowadays, you know, there's more diversity within age. I think you would be perfect."

Conan continues to playfully exaggerate his modeling prospects, blending humor with genuine curiosity.

• [07:15] Micah: "Yes, I think that would be beautiful."
• [07:16] Conan O'Brien: "Long legs, beautiful."

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7. Navigating Friendship and Robert's Perspective

A significant portion of the episode explores the complexities of Conan’s friendship quest, intertwined with Robert’s disapproval of Conan’s comedy.

• [21:07] Conan O'Brien: "Robert, if he exists. I don't think that's made up."
• [22:08] Conan O'Brien: "It's okay. It's quite clear. You know what, Micah? I'm a mature adult and I can handle that. Someone is not a fan of mine and I'm deducing I know you take."

Micah candidly discusses Robert’s reservations, leading to a comedic yet insightful dialogue.

• [24:06] Micah: "He likes naughty."
• [24:20] Conan O'Brien: "But I think what he's saying is he thinks that maybe I'm too hyper at times."

This segment underscores the challenges Conan faces in forming authentic friendships beyond professional relationships.

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8. Humorous Banter and Relationship Dynamics

The interplay between Conan, Micah, and Sona becomes increasingly playful, with light-hearted jabs and humorous scenarios.

• [29:44] Conan O'Brien: "We're gonna."
• [29:55] Sona Movsesian: "This is a massacre."

Conan’s attempts to win Robert over with his energetic comedy are both funny and revealing of his insecurities about friendship.

• [31:15] Micah: "I do feel bad because I am very appreciative. I am very appreciative of your podcast. It has helped me through, you know, dark and fun times."
• [31:23] Conan O'Brien: "Yeah, well, dark and fun times. I'm glad I was there to help you through fun times."

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9. Concluding Thoughts and Future Prospects

As the episode winds down, Conan reflects on the peculiar dynamics established during the conversation and expresses a desire to resolve the conflicting relationships.

• [35:14] Conan O'Brien: "I shouldn't, but I'm gonna dig deeper. What is it? I'm gonna...I shouldn't, but I'm gonna dig deeper."
• [35:33] Micah: "Yes, we don't even watch this universe."

Conan humorously contemplates possible ways to mend the relationship triangle between himself, Micah, and Robert.

• [35:34] Conan O'Brien: "Yes. Well, Micah, do you have a question for me before we go. Because sometimes I don't think so."

The episode concludes with mutual appreciation and open-ended possibilities for future interactions.

• [36:15] Conan O'Brien: "Nice talking to you, too. Bye."
• [36:17] Micah: "Bye. Bye."

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10. Advertisements and Post-Episode Remarks

The latter part of the transcript includes advertisements for products like Lux Bidet and BetterHelp. These segments are non-content and were omitted from the summary as per instructions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Conan O'Brien: "I think you're super respectful and I think that's where you..." [24:25]
• Micah: "He pours me a glass of sake. He made me a tea. Super nice." [13:39]
• Conan O'Brien: "What are we left with? What is it? I'm gonna...I shouldn't, but I'm gonna dig deeper." [35:14]
• Micah: "I have discussed it today as well, because, you know, it's..." [23:57]

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Conclusion:

"Long In The Leg" offers a blend of humor, introspection, and candid discussions about friendship and personal relationships. Conan's interactions with Micah not only provide comedic entertainment but also shed light on his ongoing quest to forge meaningful connections beyond his celebrity status.

Transcript

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Micah]

Hi, Micah. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.

Hi. Thank you so much. Hello.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi, Micah. How are you?

[Micah]

Welcome to your water talk. I'm very good. How are you? Thank you for pronouncing my name correctly. Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, Micah, I take the world's people very seriously. I like to understand all cultures.

[Micah]

And I think she was talking to me.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, she's talking to me. Micah. I'm going to start fresh because it's a muddled beginning and we can edit this.

[Micah]

I was talking to myself.

[Conan O'Brien]

Micah, how are you?

[Micah]

I'm good. How are you? You guys doing?

[Conan O'Brien]

We're doing great. And you are coming to us, I'm told, from Amsterdam.

[Micah]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Are you a native? Are you a native of Amsterdam? Is that where you're from?

[Micah]

Yes. Oh, can you hear by my speech?

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm not good at picking out various accents, so I wouldn't be able to listen to you and say, oh, that's an Amsterdamian accent.

[Micah]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

But I do. I was in Amsterdam many years ago shooting a project, and it was one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. The architecture, the people. I was just stunned.

[Micah]

And you had good weather, I assume. Otherwise you probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.

[Conan O'Brien]

What makes you think I don't like bad weather? I like rainy weather. I like foggy weather.

[Micah]

I feel like your hair would get.

[Conan O'Brien]

A little upset with bad weather. Oh, yes. My hair absorbs moisture, and then it gets even bigger. Okay, so. But enough about me. Micah, it's very nice talking to you. And I'm looking at your right now, your beautiful Amsterdam home. Everything is very orderly and gorgeous. There's the natural woods. Which one does find in the northern realms of Europe? Micah, tell us.

[Micah]

Yeah.

And everywhere else. They're called trees.

[Conan O'Brien]

Please.

[Micah]

Ours are very specific.

[Conan O'Brien]

Please. I've never been more on my game, and I can't believe you'd interrupt this incredible role.

[Sona Movsesian]

Natural woods, Micah.

[Micah]

I see you have those famous Dutch.

I mean, you have fake wood. Yes, they're made out of paper.

[Sona Movsesian]

Well, you guys got it all very nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

You Dutch in your paper books. Go Kindle or get out. I say, Micah, let me ask you a little bit about yourself. You seem like a lovely person, full of energy, very young. Tell me what you do.

[Micah]

I work as a high fashion model.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my God. Well, that makes perfect sense. You are extraordinarily beautiful. So thank you. You really are.

[Sona Movsesian]

She really gorgeous. I can't stop looking at your cheekbones.

[Micah]

Thank. You're not sure if it's like a filter or something, you know?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, no, no. You're. And how long have you been high fashion model for? Since. Is this a thing that you began doing very young?

[Micah]

Yes, I started when I was 13 and I'm 30 now, which is. I want to say old within this industry, really, for a very long time. And it used to be normal to be 13 and start modeling, which now doesn't happen anymore.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, they don't do that.

[Matt Gourley]

They.

[Conan O'Brien]

They make sure that people start a little later on.

[Micah]

Yes. There are rules now.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think that's probably good. Well, I will pay you an obvious compliment that just on zoom, you're. I mean, stunning. And I don't see why Micah could not model for another 60 years. You really do. You have beautiful.

[Micah]

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

So 60 years.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Micah]

When you hit 90, though, you have to stop.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. At 90, you stop and you put. Or you go down the Runway with a walker.

[Micah]

What do you think I should do at 90?

[Conan O'Brien]

At 90. Let's see.

[Micah]

Or I can retire.

[Conan O'Brien]

Then I would say paint over that natural wood this time.

[Micah]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, no, it's just time to change it up a little bit. When you hit 90, just a nice thick coat of pink. Micah, fashion model. Have you modeled all around the world? Have you traveled a lot? Have you traveled to the great cities to model?

[Micah]

Yes, I used to live in New York for six or seven years. That's actually when I first heard your guys speak podcast. Yeah. And usually when I have a job, I go to Paris or Milan or anywhere else within Europe at the moment.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Micah]

So are you all around?

[Conan O'Brien]

Are you tall? Many models have to be a certain height. How tall are you?

[Micah]

I'm 6ft. How tall are you?

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my Lord. I'm 6 4. But if I've got gel in the hair, I'm 6, 7, 6 8. But yes, yes, I am 6ft 4 inches tall and nice. Thank you.

[Sona Movsesian]

You're just.

[Micah]

You've thought about.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, Have I thought about modeling? You know, is this.

[Micah]

Is that where you want to go?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, listen, Micah, I could use your advice. I. Do you think I have what it takes to be. I know that I'm a little long in the tooth. I'm an older gentleman, but do you think I could be a model? Do you think I have what it takes?

[Micah]

I think yes. I think also nowadays, you know, there's more diversity within age. I think you would be perfect. And you've compared yourself to Tilda Swinton, which I think is the most gorgeous human on this world.

[Conan O'Brien]

Which one? Me or Tilda Swinton? Think about it. Think about how long you want this interview to go on for. Very nice, Micah. Micah, you should. You should become a diplomat. You should work for the United Nations. It was very well done.

[Micah]

That's what I'll do when I'm 90.

[Conan O'Brien]

I am. I'm very long in the leg. I think that's helpful when you're a model. My legs are very, very long. Beautiful.

[Micah]

Yes, I think that would be beautiful.

[Conan O'Brien]

Long legs, beautiful. I don't know who said it.

[Micah]

How do you find your. How do you. Where do you find your jeans or your. Your pants? Or do you have someone that.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I'm able to. It's hard for me to get them off the rack. They have to be quite long. My. Very long. I'm just going to say sensual legs. Did I say that or did you?

[Sona Movsesian]

Legs are sensitive, sensual. How do you. How is that mean?

[Conan O'Brien]

Meaning my legs have senses and they enjoy food. Okay. They're sensuous.

[Micah]

Your legs eat.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Micah]

Oh, that's even more disgusting.

[Conan O'Brien]

Little mouths on them.

[Micah]

Okay, Micah, this guy picks up Food with your feet?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, with my feet. And then I feed my. My legs. Micah. Micah, you know what? I'm gonna blame you. You're very beautiful, and you're very funny, but you came on and you destroyed this podcast, and it's your fault. I think you did this.

[Micah]

Me? Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. It's all your.

[Micah]

No problem.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you very much. We have that. Micah, I have to ask you a question, because it's something that I'm naturally curious about. You are a very stunning person. And what's it like when you're walking around? I'm just imagining that guys would bother you all the time, and that would be annoying. They don't.

[Micah]

No. At this point, I'm almost. I don't want to say insulted, because I don't want to be bothered, but also. Yes. No, I don't get. I don't get stopped at all.

[Conan O'Brien]

Do you think it's because they're intimidated?

[Sona Movsesian]

No.

[Micah]

I don't know.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think it's. I mean, you're six feet tall, and you look like a supermodel, and I think it would be very. It's a very confident man. I would think that would walk up to Micah and say, hi, would you want to go get a burrito sometimes? That was my opening.

[Sona Movsesian]

The burrito. You're not taking her to, like, a nice restaurant.

[Conan O'Brien]

This was a line that I tried.

[Micah]

His legs gotta eat.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, A man's legs gotta eat. Sona. A man's legs gotta eat for a burrito. I. I just. I would.

[Micah]

No, they don't really.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. I think it's intimidation. I think they would think. There's no way that Mike is.

[Micah]

I don't know. I mean, that's what I tell myself. To fall asleep. I'm not sure. I think so. I also. Also, your producer told me you have a resting bitch face. I think I might have the.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, you think I have a resting bitch face?

[Micah]

No, I didn't. One of your. Oh, sorry.

Was it.

[Sona Movsesian]

He does, though.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's okay. Play.

[Sona Movsesian]

You do.

[Micah]

It's a good thing.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what?

[Micah]

That makes you a good model.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, Yes, I think. Look, I'm going to.

[Micah]

I mean, I'm not insulting you.

[Conan O'Brien]

For people that are listening, you can always go look this up. But my natural face in the world is this.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's that one.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's that one that's turned away from me. Or it's this one.

[Sona Movsesian]

The one on the left.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thanks a lot. Thank you. Here we go. No, no, I was actually thanking you. Here we go.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Can you see It. Do I need to get closer? I don't know if this thing zooms or not. Do you mind?

[Sona Movsesian]

Here, maybe we can try to zoom in. You don't have to go that close. Not that close.

[Micah]

Maybe you get further. You can go further away. Maybe even dark. This is good.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, my God.

[Micah]

Oh, the posture.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sit down and they can zoom in on you if that's okay. Please sit down and they can zoom in on you. All right, here we go. They're zooming in now. Do it. Okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, thanks a lot, Micah. What happens is my natural face. And what happened when I lived in New York and I was doing the show is I'm always smiling on television. Dorman would see me and I was just neutral. My face was neutral, but this is my neutral face. And people were constantly saying, what's wrong, Conan? Why? You know, cheer up. And I was fine. I wasn't sad. I was just neutral. Why are you pulling your.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's what happened.

[Micah]

No, I'm sorry. I was just. This is.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, okay. That's what happened, Micah. That's just gravity. Now, you are a genetically. I'm talking about gravity. You are a 30 year old supermodel with a beautiful face and you're talking to a man who is into his 90s and gravity is tearing at my face, tearing at it, shredding it. And so that's what's happening.

[Micah]

But maybe you've left too much in your life, you know, and they wanna relax, so they wanna hang. Like in the downtime, your smile muscles just wanna maybe.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, that's weird.

[Conan O'Brien]

Look at this guy. Do you like this guy better?

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, no.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, God. I can't win. My confidence is destroyed.

[Micah]

Can you do it one more time?

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi, how are you? Hi.

[Micah]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi, Micah.

[Micah]

I love it.

[Conan O'Brien]

How are you?

[Matt Gourley]

Nice to see you.

[Conan O'Brien]

My name's Conan and I'd like to buy you a burrito.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, my God, the burrito.

[Micah]

They're doing a zoom in on you now. I don't know if it helps, that's.

My favorite food and you're somehow making it off putting.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, Micah, I have to ask because my interest is piqued now. Are you in a relationship? Are you married? Is there someone in your life? Let's discuss.

[Micah]

I am in a relationship with a man called Robert.

[Conan O'Brien]

Is Robert also from Amsterdam or did you meet him someplace?

[Micah]

He's also from Amsterdam, but we met on Bumble and he said he would not have approached me in real life either. But that's because he has only dated women that Are like five feet tall.

[Conan O'Brien]

How tall is Robert?

[Micah]

He's six one.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, okay.

[Micah]

So. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Micah]

But. No, no, but we're in a happy relationship. He's fine with my height. Thank God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, he's. Yeah, he's got an inch on you. That's fine. Let's say six one. Yeah. And. And also, many women are happy with shorter men. Many men are happy with taller women. It takes all kinds.

[Micah]

They're making it a trend now, too.

[Conan O'Brien]

Are they?

[Micah]

It's like. It's like a. It's like a thing online. Right? I see Sona. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. My dream. And my wife knows this, is to be with a woman who's, like, 3ft taller than me. Having trouble finding one. Yeah. Just. She carries me wherever we go.

[Micah]

Did you guys see the video of the tallest woman on Earth and the smallest woman or person on Earth? I'm not sure if it was women meeting each other. Yeah, I have.

[Sona Movsesian]

I saw that video. Yeah, it's cool.

[Micah]

Yeah, that was.

[Conan O'Brien]

And they met each other accidentally. It was at a 711 at a gorilla shop. Yeah, they were. They were reaching for the same Slurpee cup. I said, schlerpy, I like to put a little shhh in there. And that's my business. All right. You know, stop. You guys are like a jury, constantly stopping me from. We learned it from you, dad, Micah. You guys. So Robert sounds like a nice guy. Is he nice to you? That's the important thing. Good.

[Micah]

He's super nice to me tonight. He was like, I know you're a bit nervous, so go take a nap. I'll cook dinner for you. He poured me a glass of sake. He made me a tea. Super nice. I'm borrowing his laptop.

[Conan O'Brien]

I wish I was in a relationship with Robert.

[Micah]

No, he sounds pretty good.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. And he's pretty good. Yeah. Sona, which McDonald's breakfast order gets people out of bed the fastest? Golden brown hash browns? Savory bacon, egg and cheese McGriddles or fluffy hotcakes? What do you think?

[Sona Movsesian]

All of the above.

[Conan O'Brien]

If you said all the above, then you are correct.

[Micah]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You win nothing. Anyway, with McDonald's breakfast, you just. You can't go wrong. How can you go wrong? You can't pick a wrong thing. You can't from that lineup. Even if you want to pair a Diet Coke with your egg McMuffin. No judgment. Not from me, not from you, not from anybody. So wake up. Sorry. That was too aggressive.

[Sona Movsesian]

So angry.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Micah]

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Asking for help? Yeah, I'm a very outward person.

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, it is.

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

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[Sona Movsesian]

I can't.

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[Conan O'Brien]

Do you think the three of us would get along if we hung out? Because I intend to, you know, hang out with you guys at some point.

[Sona Movsesian]

Weird.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think you sounds weird to you, but it's Europe, so I know things can get weird.

[Micah]

I think the language barrier might be coming over.

[Conan O'Brien]

Does Robert speak English?

[Micah]

Yes, he does. But he hasn't listened to your guys podcast. He hasn't, and I'm quite disappointed.

[Conan O'Brien]

He won't listen to. He hasn't or he refuses to listen? You can be honest now. It's okay. This is a safe space.

[Micah]

Are you sure?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, no, I'm not. And it's not really a safe space. It never happened.

[Micah]

Take the risk.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, take the risk.

[Micah]

For up until now. He won't. But maybe he won't. I think he can be convinced he won't.

[Conan O'Brien]

So.

[Micah]

He won't.

[Conan O'Brien]

He won't. He's defiantly saying I will not listen to that podcast.

[Micah]

It's a choice.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes, it's an active choice.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a choice.

[Sona Movsesian]

Well, is it because of Conan or because of one of us?

[Micah]

Well, it's not because of you guys.

It's because he doesn't know who we are.

I hope Conan doesn't know who I'm talking to again.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's okay. It's quite clear. You know what, Micah? I'm a mature adult and I can handle that. Someone is not a fan of mine and I'm deducing I know you take.

[Micah]

It as a challenge.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I do not. I like this guy Robert. He clearly has excellent taste in choosing you, and so I respect his opinion and I deduce that he is not a fan of my kind of comedy. Is that the case? You can just say yes or no.

[Micah]

I declare the fifth.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, well, I didn't realize you guys.

[Sona Movsesian]

Had the American Constitution. You can't use our constitution.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're in Amsterdam. And keep your fucking hands off our Constitution. We barely can keep it under control here in America and suddenly. Oh, I know what the problem is you guys have it. I know why our system's breaking down. Our constitution's in Amsterdam. Micah, he's not a fan. Just say it. It's okay.

[Micah]

He's not a fan. I'm so sorry. He's not a fan. But I feel bad because I think you're so nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice.

[Micah]

I sincerely think.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, I am nice, but I consider myself a great comedic talent. Now what is it?

[Micah]

He's. Oh, okay. Sorry, sorry. It's not about personality, it's about your talent. Yeah, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Micah]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

So what are we left with? What is it? I'm gonna. I shouldn't, but I'm gonna dig deeper. What is it about my comedy that Robert does not enjoy? You can just say he's goofy. Can you let her answer the question, please? You're leading the wetness.

[Sona Movsesian]

I'm sorry.

[Micah]

Maybe give me a multiple choice answer.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no. I'd like to get to the truth. I really would like to get to the truth.

[Micah]

No. Okay. I'll be completely honest with you. I have discussed it today as well, because, you know, it's.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, you'd be talking to me and this is a big night.

[Micah]

Why do I want to meet, you know? Yeah. He just thinks it's too much.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's too much. I'm a little much.

[Micah]

You're trying too much.

[Conan O'Brien]

Trying too much.

[Micah]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

He likes probably more of like a quiet.

[Micah]

He likes more naughty. I asked him the word, he said naughty.

[Conan O'Brien]

Naughty. He likes naughty.

[Micah]

But I think you're super respectful and I think that's where you know.

[Conan O'Brien]

But I think what he's saying is he thinks that maybe I'm too hyper at times. The. My energy is too much. Maybe a neediness comes across. And he probably likes a quieter kind of Jacques Tati kind of comedy.

[Micah]

I think if you take this attitude, you will be perfect.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, he likes.

[Micah]

Just keep it this.

[Conan O'Brien]

Something like this, which is quieter and more relaxed and much less funny. This is not funny at all.

[Micah]

He just likes non funny comedy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I think the problem's with Robert. That's what I'm getting.

[Micah]

I think so too. I mean, for the rest, he's great. This is just something we don't bond over.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Micah]

Well, listen, and to be honest, I put up an Instagram post for like, friends, like asking like, who of my friends is listening to Conan O'Brien? You know, needs a friend. And no one replied.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow.

[Micah]

But maybe I don't have many friends. I mean, this is the case.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is Micah. Can I tell you what's Happened from my perspective, Micah. Michael, let me tell you what's happened from my perspective.

[Micah]

I just think you need better PR in the Netherlands. That's just what I think. Maybe you're not reaching beyond, you know, you need to.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think I've been lured into a trap by a very beautiful woman. This is how it feels like to me, that there's this extraordinarily beautiful professional model named Micah who's charming and lovely, and she's a fan of mine, and she's talking to me, and the whole time she's leading me down an alley, and when we get to the end of the alley, she tells me, my boyfriend loathes you, my friend, for your humility. My friends have never heard of you. And everyone I know, everyone I know finds you disgusting and loathsome. You're like the creature.

[Micah]

I'm putting words in my mouth.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're like the creature at the end of the substance.

[Micah]

That's true.

That's a compliment.

[Conan O'Brien]

And you. You tricked me. You tricked me. You said, la, la, la let's get on this Amsterdam bicycle Built for two and take a nice ride oh, no. What's happening? Oh, no. Poor Conan.

[Micah]

Let's throw you in the canal.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Micah]

But I'm talking to you. Is that not enough for you?

[Conan O'Brien]

Nope.

[Micah]

Okay, now you heard my feelings.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, you're. I love you. No, you did.

[Micah]

You did.

[Conan O'Brien]

No. No, I did not. I did not.

[Micah]

Yeah, you did.

[Conan O'Brien]

I did not. Micah, I know your feelings better.

[Micah]

It's very direct. You should know that.

[Conan O'Brien]

You. I can take it. I can take it. I'm not for everyone. I understand that. And I've. I do. You know, I paint what I see. I am who I am, as Popeye said, a great Nordic figure.

[Micah]

And, I mean, you're hosting the Oscars. You're fine. You're fine with that, Robert.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, yeah, that's. No one judges anyone in that job. That's gonna be all of Amsterdam saying sucked.

[Micah]

We don't even watch this universe.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice.

[Micah]

I am kidding. I am so sorry. I'm kidding.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm so sorry. Hey, listen, I'm not Joe Oscar either, you know. Take it easy. I don't work for the Academy, you know, It's a job. I'm getting 200 bucks. I'll do it. Congrats, Micah. I do think, how would I win over Robert? I know this is insane, because I've won you over, and that should be enough for me, because, again, you're extraordinary. There's a light coming off of you. You're a Renaissance painting. Yet still, I'm obsessive compulsive. About now, Robert is gonna be the one I wake up thinking about and his disapproving face glaring at me. 3 inches below my own face. 3 inches below my own face.

[Micah]

Yeah. You're taller than him. Feel good about that somehow?

[Conan O'Brien]

It doesn't.

[Sona Movsesian]

It doesn't help.

[Micah]

It doesn't help.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I'm taller than Brad Pitt. That doesn't help. You know?

[Micah]

Oh, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Stronger than him, too. I fought him twice. Once, I won once.

[Sona Movsesian]

No, you're not stronger than him.

[Conan O'Brien]

What's that?

[Sona Movsesian]

You're not stronger than Brad Pitt.

[Conan O'Brien]

I am stronger than Brad Pitt.

[Sona Movsesian]

No, you're not.

[Conan O'Brien]

If I fought Brad Pitt, I would win.

[Sona Movsesian]

No, he would be.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, he would call a bunch of people. Get in here. Security, help me. That's how he talks too.

[Micah]

What would your fighting style be?

[Conan O'Brien]

Mine?

[Sona Movsesian]

Running away?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, my hands become like hoses. They're just. They're like whips. They whip. It's a whipping motion. You got me off track, Micah. It's a slapping. I'm a slap fighter. I slap, I pinch and I bite. I get on the floor, get my back on the floor so that I'm protected, and I kick and I bite.

[Micah]

And I scratch where you pull someone over you, right?

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I don't do that. That would hurt my back. Micah.

[Micah]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Conan O'Brien]

You and I have a strange chemistry, and yet I've never been more in love. And I say that knowing I've happily married now for quite a long time. But that marriage is over. I think it's you and I now.

[Micah]

I think Robert is not gonna be very appreciative of the comment you've just made.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh. Oh, I'm really scared of Robert. Oh, boy. Robert. Oh, Robert doesn't like. I mean, listen, I'll handle Robert. Don't you worry about that. But I think it's you and I now.

[Sona Movsesian]

Are you gonna do it together?

[Conan O'Brien]

We're gonna.

[Sona Movsesian]

Robert.

[Conan O'Brien]

What's that?

[Sona Movsesian]

What are you gonna do to Robert?

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm gonna overwhelm him with my high energy comedy. I'm gonna be so energetic and he's gonna be so put off by it that he's gonna run away.

[Sona Movsesian]

I think that would work.

[Conan O'Brien]

My comedy would drive Robert away from your relationship. That's how bad my comedy is. Yeah. This is incredible. This is a. This is a massacre.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, this is. She didn't even need to tell you. She posted on Instagram and none of her friends commented.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, you didn't need to.

[Sona Movsesian]

She did, Micah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You didn't need to mention that she.

[Micah]

Had a galaxy, you know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, and Conan, one other thing. I went to an orphanage. No, no, no. The children don't have parents. And I said, does anyone want a parent? And they all said, yes, please. And then I said, it will be Conan or Brian. And they said, no. We live our lives alone with no money and food. Did you know that?

[Micah]

Conan, I think, again, now it's a cultural difference. I was trying to help you. You need more fans in Amsterdam or in the Netherlands, and I don't know, maybe there's.

[Conan O'Brien]

Can I tell you one thing that.

[Micah]

Can help you with that?

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm considered a God in Finland. Did you know that? Finland. The Finns love you.

[Micah]

Great. Yeah, that's great. I'm happy for you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow, Micah, you're a lot of fun. You really. You really are.

[Micah]

All timer.

[Conan O'Brien]

All joking aside, you are a lot of fun and very funny.

[Micah]

I do feel bad because I am very appreciative. I am very appreciative of your podcast. It has helped me through, you know, dark and fun times.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, well, dark and fun times. I'm glad I was there to help you through fun times. I'm having so much fun. I don't know how I'm gonna make it. Conan will balance things out.

[Micah]

Let me listen to something that'll bring me down.

[Conan O'Brien]

I need a downer.

[Sona Movsesian]

You're making fun of your one Dutch fan.

[Micah]

I know.

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

You have to hold on to her.

[Conan O'Brien]

Micah. Micah, you are my one Dutch fan, okay?

[Micah]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I'm lucky.

[Micah]

You need to be nice to me.

[Conan O'Brien]

I know, I know. Unless it's complicated because I know you have feelings for me. I can tell. It's probably the only reason you reached out. Robert, if he exists. I don't think he does. I think that's made up. I mean, there couldn't be a guy who doesn't like Conan. It's not possible. Oh, well, our lines are lighting up.

[Micah]

Shouldn't you do, like, a spin off, like Conan O'Brien needs or is looking for a whatever. Like a hater? I don't know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, oh, a hater. I mean, instead of a fan. Well, that's what this.

[Micah]

I mean, that's your purpose.

[Conan O'Brien]

You called in as a fan to quickly reveal.

[Micah]

Yes, sorry, I'm a fan.

[Conan O'Brien]

To quickly reveal that your most important relationship's with a hater and then to talk mostly about him. Please.

[Micah]

Yes, we did.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I. Where is he now, this Robert? Is he there?

[Micah]

He's upstairs.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I Bet I just want to see him. No, I don't want to see him.

[Sona Movsesian]

What if he's still buff?

[Conan O'Brien]

I know.

[Micah]

And handsome?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, he's really handsome, isn't he? I bet he's really handsome.

[Micah]

He is. I'm not responding fast enough. I feel like that took me, too.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, now you're taking him down a peg.

[Micah]

I love this, but maybe this is my character flaw. I do apologize. No, but he is handsome, but in a particular way. Yeah, he's a very. He's almost too beautiful to even describe. No, but he's like 3% Neanderthaler blood. I don't know what that means, but I feel like you can see it somehow in his face. Like he's very.

Did you say Neanderthal?

Yeah, I did.

[Conan O'Brien]

Does he have the ability to make stone tools? Is he envious of your use of fire to cook? Me?

[Micah]

No, I'm more practical than him. And I don't think I have Neanderthal blood.

[Conan O'Brien]

I didn't see this part of the conversation coming at all. This really took a turn. Yeah. There's no way.

[Micah]

If you had a DNA test.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Micah]

So you know the percentage thing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. So he's part Neanderthal. Well, good luck with that, Micah. Thank you so much. You chose well. It's a good ad for Bumble.

[Micah]

Yeah. He chopped all this wood.

[Conan O'Brien]

He's constantly pulling your apartment apart so he can burn it to cook mastodon. Micah, I want us to be friends because I really. We are. First of all, we're height compatible. I think both of us. I am. You know, you are a supermodel. In your world, I think as Mengo, I'm considered quite. Fill that in later and then just whatever use AI. Delusional. Delusional. But, Micah, it's been really nice talking to you. And if our paths cross someday, I know we're gonna get to the bottom of this very strange relationship we have. And it is a relationship. It's a three way relationship. Now it's you, it's Robert, and it's myself. And this has to be resolved somehow. I don't. You know, we have to figure this out.

[Micah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a long.

[Micah]

And we'll buy a houseboat together.

[Conan O'Brien]

I've heard this. Come on before. I've had other people offer to buy a houseboat with me in Amsterdam. And I was tricked. And I know you're secretly talking to Flea.

[Micah]

Maybe you need a local.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. To help you out with this situation.

[Micah]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes. Well, Micah, do you have a question for me before we go. Because sometimes I don't think so. I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. We've gone on too long, I think. Okay. And it probably. I can't take any more punishment. The question is probably something like, you know, does your face hurt? Because it's killing me.

[Micah]

It would have been nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

Micah, I really like talking to you. You're very funny and you're very cool, and I'm. I'm rooting for you. And guess what? For Robert, I think he probably has very good taste in comedy. He's a wise man. So listen to him. Okay.

[Micah]

I hope he'll listen to this.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, his choice. Yeah. All right. You take care.

[Micah]

Thank you so much. Nice talking to you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice talking to you, too. Bye. Bye.

[Micah]

Bye. Bye.

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[Conan O'Brien]

It away, Jimmy.

[Micah]

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