One Ring To Rule Them All

Summary

Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend
Episode: One Ring To Rule Them All
Release Date: January 30, 2025

Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend continues its mission to forge genuine friendships as host Conan O’Brien engages with Raheel, a dedicated gastroenterology and hepatology fellow. This episode delves into Raheel’s intensive medical training, the nuances of his specialty, personal practices concerning fasting, and a heartfelt discussion about navigating a proposal when your fiancée’s parents are in the jewelry business.

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Introducing Raheel: A Rising Medical Professional

The episode begins with Conan welcoming Raheel, who shares his background and current endeavors in the medical field.

[01:40]
Conan O’Brien: "Hey, Raheel. How are you?"
Raheel: "I'm doing amazing. So excited to meet you guys."

Raheel explains his journey through medical school and his specialization:

[01:59]
Raheel: "Yeah, so I'm currently in my fellowship. So I finished med school and I did my training. I'm still currently in my training and I'm doing gastroenterology and hepatology."

[02:10]
Conan O’Brien: "So GI. Oh, Lord. That's impressive. You're a gastroenterologist. And what was the other field too?"
Raheel: "And hepatology. So they go kind of hand in hand."

Conan humorously misinterprets hepatology, leading to a light-hearted exchange that sets the tone for the episode.

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Deep Dive into Gastroenterology and Hepatology

Raheel elaborates on his rigorous training and the demands of his specialty.

[03:31]
Raheel: "Yeah. No. So I've done. So, you know, our med school is four years after our undergrad, and then we do three years of internal medicine, which is all, you know, patient facing hospital based, long days, long hours. And then GI hepatology is another three years after that. So I'm about halfway through right now. So it's been about four and a half, five years. This is a huge commitment."

[04:25]
Conan O’Brien: "I'm so impressed by the fact that you've spent years and years preparing, and I'm glad you have because I'm sure you're going to be very good at what you do. You're going to help save a lot of lives."

Raheel reflects on the continuous learning inherent in medicine:

[04:40]
Raheel: "That's the hope. I mean, even this many years in it, every day it feels like I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with everybody. So it's one of those things where learning never stops. You kind of keep going at it. New things, new experiences, new patient interactions. It all makes it worth it."

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The Art and Challenges of Colonoscopies

A significant portion of the conversation centers on Raheel’s experiences performing colonoscopies and the use of Propofol, a sedative:

[05:21]
Conan O’Brien: "Can I just say. I hate to interrupt, but, Brielle, doesn't that kind of suck for the patient? If you're saying, like, yeah, you know, first year, you're just jamming a camera in there. You don't know what you're doing. It's banging up against stuff, and you just have to kind of force it isn't that. I mean, you don't want to be. I don't want to encounter you at that stage. Raheel, as a patient, is that fair to say you do?"

[06:05]
Raheel: "With propofol, it's that magic stuff that..."

[06:08]
Conan O’Brien: "You're right. Okay. So I. I wake up, and I don't know what's happened exactly."

Raheel discusses the technical skills required and the patient experience:

[07:02]
Conan O’Brien: "I would think the technology is going to improve to the point where you just swallow, like, a little pill or something, and it works its way through your system really quickly, and the pill comes out the other side and said, everything is fine. Colon."
Raheel: "They have one, do they? They have one of those for the small bowel, for, like, the small intestine. But the colon is just so wide and distended, it can't really take pictures of the whole thing. And thankfully, I hope it doesn't because then I'll be out of a job."

The humorous exchange highlights the complexities and future possibilities in medical technology.

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Fasting: Tradition, Religion, and Health Perspectives

Raheel shares his personal practice of fasting, rooted in his Jain faith, and discusses its implications:

[09:18]
Conan O’Brien: "Do you fast ever?
Raheel: "I do, because that's a big thing now."

[10:00]
Conan O’Brien: "Can you tell me specifically what your religion is?"
Raheel: "Yeah, so my religion is called Jainism, so practitioners are called Jain. And so we have kind of. You know, there's similar things in other cultures. There's like Ramadan for, for people who follow Islam. There's like Lent and things like that. But in Jainism, we have this eight day, eight or ten day religious festival called Baryushan. And during that time we can do different days of fasting."

[11:19]
Conan O’Brien: "Do you think that that's okay to go eight days without any food other than water?"
Raheel: "I don't. This was all pre med school. Gotcha. This was like me in undergrad, me in med school. I don't think it's the healthiest. I don't think it's the healthiest thing to do. I do think it's a really interesting test of determination, interesting test of self will. And you can really push your body to the limit in ways that outside of thinking medical, but you can really see what your body is capable of in those eight days."

Conan humorously inquires about the physical toll and Raheel explains the gradual adaptation:

[12:03]
Raheel: "Yeah. No. You can live life as is. You know, one, the first time I did it, I was an undergrad. The second time I was in med school. And you live life as is. You know, the first couple of days are the hardest where you're, you know, like, it's lunchtime, your body's just so used to it. And then after like day one, day two, your body kind of adjusts to that feeling of, I'm not eating and so let me occupy myself with other stuff. And then the rest of the week, honestly, just kind of. You just don't feel that sensation of hunger as much you does."

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Navigating a Proposal with Jeweler In-Laws

The centerpiece of the episode revolves around Raheel seeking advice on proposing with the added complexity of his fiancée’s parents being jewelers.

[19:54]
Raheel: "I do. And it's like a, you know, a life dilemma that I'd love to get some insight of yours. So I am planning on proposing to my girlfriend, and so, you know, I'm about to start the whole ring shopping thing, and her parents happen to be jewelers. And so I'd like to know how you would kind of navigate the clear conflict of interest when I have no negotiating power on my side?"

Conan and the team brainstorm humorous and creative strategies:

[21:25]
Conan O’Brien: "It's important for you that the ring you give your future wife have passed through your body."
Raheel: "Hear that symbolism of."
Conan O’Brien: "It's a symbol of your... it's a symbol of what you do, your profession, what you're giving your life to, but also you are willing to process this ring in every way that a human can process something."

They joke about unconventional methods to procure the ring, such as swallowing it and retrieving it:

[22:18]
Raheel: "Yeah, my current fellow salary, I don't think I can afford anything that's going to get stuck."
Conan O’Brien: "And you can also encase it in a prune or something. That's going to go through pretty quickly or I'm just telling."

Despite the humor, Conan eventually offers sincere advice:

[25:07]
Conan O’Brien: "Well, listen, in all seriousness, I think you buy the ring from them, are they gonna be able to keep their mouths shut? Because you do want it to be a surprise when you give her the ring."

Raheel appreciates the genuine insight amidst the comedic embellishments:

[25:44]
Raheel: "Thank you guys so much. It was so great meeting you guys."
Conan O’Brien: "All right. Take care, man. Thanks."

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Conclusion: A Blend of Humor and Heartfelt Interaction

Throughout the episode, Conan masterfully blends humor with genuine curiosity, allowing Raheel to share his experiences and challenges openly. The interplay between comedic improvisation and sincere conversation offers listeners both laughs and meaningful insights into the life of a medical professional balancing personal milestones.

Notable Quotes:

• Conan O’Brien [03:31]: "You're going to help save a lot of lives."

• Raheel [04:40]: "Learning never stops. You kind of keep going at it. New things, new experiences, new patient interactions. It all makes it worth it."

• Conan O’Brien [11:19]: "Do you think that that's okay to go eight days without any food other than water?"

• Raheel [19:54]: "I am planning on proposing to my girlfriend... her parents happen to be jewelers."

• Conan O’Brien [25:07]: "I think you buy the ring from them... to keep it a surprise."

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This episode exemplifies Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend's unique ability to intertwine humor with heartfelt conversations, providing listeners with both entertainment and genuine connections.

Transcript

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[Eduardo Perez]

Hi, Raheel. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.

[Raheel]

Hey, everybody.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hey, Raheel. How are you?

[Raheel]

I'm doing amazing. So excited to meet you guys.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

How are you? First of all, where are you contacting us from?

[Raheel]

So I'm down in Miami.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, okay.

[Raheel]

Other side of the. Of the U.S. yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Very nice. And tell us a little bit about yourself, Raheel.

[Raheel]

Yeah, so I'm currently in my fellowship. So I finished med school and I did my training. I'm still currently in my training and I'm doing gastroenterology and hepatology.

[Conan O'Brien]

So gi. Oh, Lord. That's impressive. You're a gastroenterologist. And what was the other field too?

[Raheel]

And hepatology. So they go kind of hand in hand.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hepatology is blood.

[Raheel]

Liver.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sorry. So. So liver connected to intestine. Yes. Intestinal tract. That all makes sense. Okay.

[Raheel]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And we'll clean that up.

[Eduardo Perez]

What do you want me to do?

[Conan O'Brien]

What?

[Sona Movsesian]

Who's going to clean it up, girls.

[Eduardo Perez]

Clean.

[Sona Movsesian]

Edit it. He's going to edit it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Just so I know what hepatology is, you know, Anyway, so, yeah, you'll do as you're told. Okay. I'm sorry, Raheel.

[Raheel]

Let's reconfigure it so that.

[Conan O'Brien]

So, Raheel, how are you?

[Raheel]

I'm actually blood. I'm doing great. It's great to meet you guys.

[Conan O'Brien]

Now, I've always heard hepatology is the study of the liver. Is that correct?

[Raheel]

Yeah. I actually learned that from your podcast.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you. I never make mistakes when it comes to medicine because I too, am well trained. Well, first of all, congratulations. You're a young man and you're. Seems like you're very well educated, and that's very cool. And you've. You're going to help a lot of people. Tell us a little bit about your training. What are you interested? Well, first of all, have you worked with a lot of patients so far? Has it all been textbook stuff?

[Raheel]

Yeah. No. So I've done. So, you know, our med school is four years after our undergrad, and then we do three years of internal medicine, which is all, you know, patient facing hospital based, long days, long hours. And then GI hepatology is another three years after that. So I'm about halfway through right now. So it's been about four and a half, five years. This is a huge.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's such a dedication. It takes in the field of medicine. There is no preparation for being in comedy. There's no. It's. I am ashamed. I'm ashamed that you just get to dive in and be an ass and whatever. Start getting to practice immediately. I'm so impressed by the fact that you've had. You've spent years and years and years of your life preparing, and I'm glad you have because I'm sure you're going to be very good at what you do. You're going to help save a lot of lives.

[Raheel]

That's the hope. I mean, even this many years in it, every day it feels like I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with everybody. So it's one of those things where learning never stops. You kind of keep going at it. New things, new experiences, new patient interactions. It all makes it worth it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, I've talked about this a lot, but can you hook me up with Profofol?

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, geez.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, geez. Come on.

[Conan O'Brien]

Because I've, you know, when I've had colonoscopies, they give me this drug, Profofol, and I've talked about it before, but it's the happiest I've been in my entire life. It's an absolutely amazing feeling, and it's miraculous. And so if you could become my secret, illegal supplier of Profofol, I don't see how anyone. I don't see how anyone traces it back to us. I don't see one way that it leaks out and it's tracked back to us. That's just what I'm saying. By the way, I'm terrible at committing crimes. Have you performed any colonoscopies? Is that something that they've trained you to do?

[Raheel]

Yeah. Yeah. So we. We kind of get into it from day one, from our training. So, you know, our first year, we're fumbling around, trying to figure out what we're doing. It's. It's a new technical skill, and it's, you know, not necessarily intuitive when you get started. And then, you know, over the first year, you really get your confidence. And then second year, you really start to build. Build your skill, build your efficiency.

[Conan O'Brien]

Can I just say. I hate to interrupt, but, Brielle, doesn't that kind of suck for the patient? If you're saying, like, yeah, you know, first year, you're just jamming a camera in there. You don't know what you're doing. It's banging up against stuff, and you just have to kind of force it isn't that. I mean, you don't want to be. I don't want to encounter you at that stage. Raheel, as a patient, is that fair to say you do?

[Raheel]

With propofol, it's that magic stuff that.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're right. Okay. So I. I wake up, and I don't know what's happened exactly.

[Raheel]

You ask after they wake up, they ask, are we getting started? And that's the magic of Propofol.

[Conan O'Brien]

Even though you've been banging around in there for three hours.

[Sona Movsesian]

Banging around. Come on.

[Conan O'Brien]

Do you think you're pretty good at it now?

[Raheel]

I would like to think so. You know, my attendings might say otherwise behind closed doors, but at least to my face, I say I'm doing well.

[Conan O'Brien]

Good. Good. I would think. When is the. I would think the technology is going to improve to the point where you just swallow, like, a little pill or something, and it works its way through your system really quickly, and the pill comes out the other side and said, everything is fine. Colon.

[Raheel]

They have one, do they? They have one of those for the small bowel, for, like, the small intestine. But the colon is just so wide and distended, it can't really take pictures of the whole thing. And thankfully, I hope it doesn't because then I'll be out of a job.

[Conan O'Brien]

See, that's the problem, is technology replaces a lot of. I mean, I'll be replaced by AI in about a year. Yeah, we'll have a fake Conan here.

[Sona Movsesian]

Less than a year.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, that's good to know. Just let me give you a heads up.

[Eduardo Perez]

Ratings might go up.

[Conan O'Brien]

All right, that's nice. That's nice. Let's turn up the, let's turn up the knob on the comedy portion of the Conan. Hey, it's working. Well, I think that's fantastic. Now, what about you? What is it? Does looking at people's intestines has it in, has it at all adjusted or informed the way that you eat or the way that you treat your body when you look at other people's intestines?

[Raheel]

No, and it's like, it's always a running joke. Whenever you see gi fellows, you can always like, tell who they are in the hospital because they're literally just running to the cafeteria, stuffing whatever the food they can in their mouth between procedures and then running back to the procedure room, the field and the, you know, the practice is just so fast paced and we're just running to see patients running to do procedures. I like, literally when I tell patients and counsel them in clinic, I just basically say everything I don't do in my life. And oh, my God, that's one of those.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's fascinating to me. So you're telling them, well, it's really good to, you know, eat a lot of roughage and don't eat processed foods and it's really good to avoid the. And then you don't listen to it at all.

[Raheel]

I'll be stuffing a pizza in my mouth as I'm telling them that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, all right. Are you pretty healthy? Are you a healthy eater other than when you're at work? When you're not, let's say you're not at work. Are you fairly healthy about your diet?

[Raheel]

I'd like, I try to be. I'm vegetarian, you know, as, as just religiously. So that kind of lends itself to eating more like, you know, lentils and vegetables and getting your, your greens in.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right? Yeah, I'm not a big lentil guy. I'm going to tell you right now.

[Sona Movsesian]

You know what, I don't like them either.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, I don't think I've ever said, hey, I need me some lentils. Yeah, you know or when I'm in a restaurant, I don't. It's not the first thing I ask the waiter. Hey, you got lentils? No. What's the lentil situation? Let's run down the list of the lentils.

[Eduardo Perez]

Lentil of the day.

[Conan O'Brien]

Exactly. I want to see the lentil sommelier come out and taste the lentil. So do you fast ever?

[Raheel]

I do, because that's a big thing now.

[Conan O'Brien]

People believe that fasting and I would like your opinion on this because I know people that fast and they say it's good for them. And now there's a lot of science that's saying fasting is good. But I always wonder, is it one of those things where 10 years from now they're gonna tell us, actually it's terrible for you, we changed our minds. You know, I think so.

[Raheel]

I think the. And I don't know, this is just what I've seen off of Instagram probably, but.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, good.

[Eduardo Perez]

Wait, you're a doctor, are you?

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi, doctor. Can you tell us what you're seeing on Instagram?

[Eduardo Perez]

Can I have some of that pizza?

[Conan O'Brien]

Hello, doctor, Tell me what's on TikTok. Go ahead. Sorry, Go ahead, go ahead.

[Raheel]

No, I was gonna say I feel like I've seen some people or some other experts kind of saying that the data around intermittent fasting isn't all that it was cracked up to be earlier. So, you know. But you know, as far as fasting, I do. Not necessarily for the health benefits, but I did just in terms of religion.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, okay. What is. Yes. Can you, can you tell me specifically what your religion is?

[Raheel]

Yeah, so my religion is called Jainism, so practitioners are called Jain. And so we have kind of. You know, there's similar things in other cultures. There's like Ramadan for, for people who follow Islam. There's like Lent and things like that. But in Jainism, we have this eight day, eight or ten day religious festival called Baryushan. And during that time we can do different days of fasting. You know, some people will do just the last day and then, you know, kind of as much as you can. So I've done eight day fasts. So basically no food.

[Conan O'Brien]

Eight day fast?

[Raheel]

Yeah, I mean that.

[Conan O'Brien]

No food of any kind. Or can you take some sustenance?

[Raheel]

Just boiled water when there's daylight out. And this kind of stretches back, you know, to the start of the religion and the different like pre technology ages and stuff like that. But yeah, just water for eight days.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. I have questions as a doctor. Do you think that that's okay to go eight days without any food other than water?

[Raheel]

I don't. This was all pre med school. Gotcha. This was like me in undergrad, me in med school. I don't think it's the healthiest. I don't think it's the healthiest thing to do. I do think it's a really interesting test of determination, interesting test of self will. And you can really push your body to the limit in a way that outside of thinking medical, but you can really see what your body is capable of in those eight days.

[Eduardo Perez]

Are you even able to get out of bed on the eighth day? Are you debilitated?

[Raheel]

Yeah. No. You can live life as is. You know, one, the first time I did it, I was an undergrad. The second time I was in med school. And you live life as is. You know, the first couple of days are the hardest where you're, you know, like, I feel like if it's 11 o'clock and I'm like, it's lunchtime, your body's just so used to it. And then after like day one, day two, your body kind of adjusts to that feeling of, I'm not eating and so let me occupy myself with other stuff. And then the rest of the week, honestly, just kind of. You just don't feel that sensation of hunger as much you.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know why I think once you. That's because your body is eating itself on day seven. Hey, I don't feel so bad. Yeah, you just ate your heart. Your body's like, I'm good. Yeah, liver's gone, heart's gone. Now I'm working on the third R. Hey, I have a question for you, Sona.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Raheel]

Yeah, no, I mean, just going through the experience, it really showed like what the body's capable of. Was it the health dancing? I doubt it. Um, but it was an experience.

[Conan O'Brien]

And how do you break after eight days? Yeah, what do you, is the, is it, do you, do you get a, you know, like a nine tiered hamburger? What do you get? I mean, I know you're a vegetarian. I'm just thinking about what I would do. I would, I would try to Go to In n Out and say, can you make a hamburger that has nine patties? That's structurally sound. That's what I like.

[Unnamed Speaker]

A deck of cards, you know. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

I want a card dealer in here, a really good one, to shuffle the patties and make a nine tiered sandwich. And then I want my jaw unlocked so I can eat it in one bite. What is your, what is, what do you. When you, when you would break fast, what would you eat?

[Raheel]

So you actually have to go very slow because you basically have to rewake your bowel. And you're not gonna like this, but it's not even lentils, but it's like lentil water. So like the water that you wake your lentils.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm a big fan of lentil water. Don't get me wrong. I am a foe of the lentil. That is my lifelong foe is the lentil. But lentil water and I are best chums.

[Raheel]

Yeah. It's just that and like sugar water and you just try to wake your GI system back up and then you slowly, slowly advance diet.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right, Right.

[Eduardo Perez]

Do you have a question for Conan Rahel?

[Raheel]

I do. And it's like a, you know, a life dilemma that I'd love to get some insight of yours. So I am planning on proposing to my girlfriend, and so, you know, I'm about to start the whole ring shopping thing, and her parents happen to be jewelers. And so I'd like to know how you would kind of navigate the clear conflict of interest when I have no negotiating power on my side?

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, your question is you don't want to purchase the ring from the parents, is that it?

[Raheel]

I do. But how would I get the best deal or negotiate my way when I have no power on my side?

[Sona Movsesian]

Can you have me with your future in laws?

[Eduardo Perez]

But are you assuming they're not gonna give you the best deal that they might be trying to make a profit off of?

[Conan O'Brien]

Do you get along with, do you get along with your girlfriend's parents?

[Raheel]

No, I do. I do. They're lovely. They're lovely.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. So my guess is they're gonna give you a good deal.

[Eduardo Perez]

But that's the assumption that, you know, that's.

[Sona Movsesian]

He can't go anywhere else. He can't go to another jeweler. So they're just going to be like, well, he put him to the ringer. Hey, whatever we tell him to pay, I would, I need to.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, for three times the price. I don't know these people. I don't know who they are. You tell me they're nice people. I'm questioning whether you have to buy the ring from them.

[Sona Movsesian]

You have to.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, you could say, Raheel, that it's important for you that the ring you give your future wife have passed through your body.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, that's not what I thought you.

[Conan O'Brien]

I said, like, listen, where I'm going with this.

[Eduardo Perez]

Want to be an independent man.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, that, that. And you. It's important to you that a. You buy the ring and that then it passed through your GI tract. Okay. In order. Because that's such an important part of your life. And they're not going to want to sell. They're not going to want to sell you one of their rings once they.

[Raheel]

Hear that symbolism of.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's a symbol of your. It's a symbol of what you do, your profession, what you're giving your life to, but also you are willing to process this ring in every way that a human can process something. And then they're gonna not want to sell you a ring at that point.

[Eduardo Perez]

No, because there's a good chance it'll get stuck in there like a sunflower seed.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's not what. Rejiel, you'll buy it. You'll buy a ring that will pass easily through the. The lower bow, will you not?

[Raheel]

Yeah, my current fellow salary, I don't think I can afford anything that's going to get stuck.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can also encase it in a prune or something. That's going to go through pretty quickly or I'm just telling.

[Sona Movsesian]

Don't eat the ring. Don't eat the ring.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, you're telling me that what I'm telling him is stupid? How is it stupid that he buy a ring, stick it in a prune, eat it, pass it through his body, clean it off, and give it to his wife and bypass his. Her parents, who are jewelers. I don't see one problem with that plan. Raheel, what do you think I could.

[Raheel]

Get behind most of it?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, listen, in all seriousness, I think you buy the ring from them, are they gonna be able to keep their mouths shut? Because you do want it to be a surprise when you give her the ring.

[Raheel]

I know. And so I don't know if I can tell her whenever this podcast comes out, if she can listen to it or if I missed a cut it halfway.

[Conan O'Brien]

If she's an intelligent woman, I'm assuming she's not listening, so I think you're okay.

[Eduardo Perez]

Do you think her parents are gon have a lot of input on what the ring Is. Or do you get to choose that freely?

[Raheel]

We've kind of talked about it, and they've told me what her preferences are.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, for God's sake. She already knows. I don't know.

[Raheel]

I think they can keep a secret. So I'm hoping.

[Conan O'Brien]

But do they know what she wants? Because you keep talking about what you know. Eduardo brings up a good point, which is they know what their preferences are. But what's her preference?

[Raheel]

No, they've said, you know, they're a family of jewelers, a couple generations, so jewelry is very ingrained. I think they've always talked about that kind of stuff, like, over the dinner table, probably. And so they definitely know her preferences. And I think they definitely guide me the right way. They're sweet people. And this is obviously said, you know, with a touch of jest, but. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I think it's all going to go swimmingly. I just want to make sure that it's a nice surprise. You know, that when you pull that ring out of yourself.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

That it's a surprise.

[Eduardo Perez]

Now, part of the proposal.

[Sona Movsesian]

He's pulling it out of his body.

[Conan O'Brien]

If he times it right. If he times it right, he could say, honey, get over here.

[Sona Movsesian]

Get over here.

[Raheel]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have something to ask you.

[Sona Movsesian]

He's gotta rinse it first. You can't just.

[Conan O'Brien]

You have water running. Get over it now. Get over it now. Oh, yeah. Squat.

[Sona Movsesian]

Here you go.

[Conan O'Brien]

He's gonna squat down.

[Sona Movsesian]

Squat instead of kneel down.

[Eduardo Perez]

Your fiance can never listen to you.

[Conan O'Brien]

You could fire it across the room.

[Raheel]

Oh, my God. Like a carnival game. Like a ring toss.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Stick your finger out. Honey. No. Here she comes.

[Eduardo Perez]

Your parents helped me pick it out.

[Conan O'Brien]

Your parents picked it out a week ago. And then I ate it with a lot of corn. Now, listen. I'm sorry.

[Raheel]

Raheel, come on.

[Conan O'Brien]

Come, Raheel. I'm looking right now at a transcript of this entire conversation. And I see that I've made no missteps whatsoever. Everything I've said is rational and should be done. So congratulations. No. Raheel, you are a impressive young man. I think you're gonna have a great career. I wish you the best with this proposal. I think it's all gonna go swimmingly. And I hope I bump into you in person someday. Cause I like you. You're a fine fellow. Think really seriously about swallowing the ring. Just think about it. It's a good idea. Probably. Get on.

[Raheel]

Thank you guys so much. It was so great meeting you guys.

[Conan O'Brien]

All right. Take care, man. Thanks.

[Eduardo Perez]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Eduardo Perez]

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