
Comedian and actress Sarah Silverman feels rejoice/dead inside about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Sarah sits down with Conan once more for an in-depth discussion on human anatomy, adapting her memoir into a musical, and grieving her parents through her new comedy special PostMortem. Later, Conan, Matt, and Sona unearth the origins of their names as they Review the Reviewers. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847.
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Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
I have.
Conan O'Brien
Good. It's time you two met.
Sona Movsesian
Oh.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
I would, Conan.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
That I like an affordable price just for me.
Conan O'Brien
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Sarah Silverman
Hi, my name is Sarah Silverman and I feel, rejoice, slash dead inside about being. About being Conan o' Brien's friend.
Conan O'Brien
I love how you had to look down at the paper and see who my name is. We met in 1990. 1993. You're one of my earliest talk show guests.
Sarah Silverman
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
And you're checking the page to see what? My name is o' Brien.
Matt Gourley
Fall is here Hear the yell back to school Ring the bell Brand new shoes Walk and lose Climb the fence.
Conan O'Brien
Books and pens I can tell that we are gonna be friends Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends I wish I could. My favorite member of my family tree.
Sarah Silverman
What the fuck?
Matt Gourley
See, this is why we need to roll. We're actually rolling now.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, we are?
Sona Movsesian
I thought I heard every one of your crazy songs. I one I'd never heard before we're.
Matt Gourley
Starting this podcast with that song we're in right now.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, well, yes, I'm Conan o' Brien. And then, blah, blah, blah, sono blah, blah, blah. Listen, I. I say so much nonsense all the time, but I'm always stunned when something burbles out of my mouth that you haven't heard before.
Sona Movsesian
Me, too.
Conan O'Brien
But I just did it. Yeah, I just said. What did I say? My favorite person is me. I'm my favorite member of my family tree.
Matt Gourley
I want to be me.
Conan O'Brien
I want to be me because I'm my favorite member of my family tree.
Sona Movsesian
Did you just make that? I think I did.
Matt Gourley
I've never heard.
Conan O'Brien
I don't know.
Matt Gourley
It rings true.
Conan O'Brien
And it's a stupid thing to say. It's so stupid. Who would say, I want to be me because I'm my favorite member of my family tree? These things spill out of me all the time. As I've said, brushing my teeth in the middle of the night, I'll wake up and I'll say something like that. Sometimes I'll put it to music.
Matt Gourley
And the listeners should know that you hear Conan in an unhinged form on the podcast. I would multiply that times, like eight.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah.
Matt Gourley
Pre recording. That's what it's like in here, I think.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. I'm trying to be responsible somewhat when we do this, and I should probably stop, but over the years, everyone always said there was the meeting after the show. You were around for those. Sona.
Sona Movsesian
I was Blay.
Conan O'Brien
You were around for those. The meeting before the show, when we were going over the jokes and the band is playing and the audience is loaded in, that was pure insanity.
Sona Movsesian
Insanity.
Conan O'Brien
And then the meeting afterwards was unhinged insanity.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
As was rehearsal. Rehearsal was often a mad king, a mad syphilitic king, Caligula, who's putting his horse in charge of making his horse a senator. Only I have a Fender guitar strapped on. And don't forget the syphilis.
Matt Gourley
All the syphilis.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, syphilis. And the horse had syphilis, too. The point being that these are just little snippets that I guess are somehow. What's wrong with me?
Sarah Silverman
Syphilis? I don't know.
Sona Movsesian
Is it syphilis?
Conan O'Brien
It's not syphilis. I get tested every day.
Sona Movsesian
But is this how you were as a kid? Like, would you go around muttering like, I like I wanna be me?
Conan O'Brien
And there was a lot of things like that craziness. And I mean, we've talked about this, but anytime I played any sports Activity with other kids. All I did was talk and make up who I was and describe who my character was and how I had been in prison. But I just got out because I had murdered a fan in the stands. But now they're giving me a second chance. I knew my name. I knew my whole backstory. And my brother Luke, my poor brother Luke is a saint. He's a year older than me. Would be like, just play the game. We'd play these pickup basketball games, and these people sometimes wouldn't even know me. And I'd be like, yeah, see, this is who I am.
Sona Movsesian
See, you did it in front of people you didn't even know sometimes.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
So, like, there was never this thing in your brain that was like, oh, God, people are gonna think I'm crazy.
Conan O'Brien
You were just like, whatever, there's no stopping it.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
I did go to a summer camp once, and I don't think the kids liked me that much. But this one camp counselor was. I was on a trip, and I made up this whole story about a bird, a bir that was the size of a human that was running through the woods. And I made up this whole thing, and I was just babbling and improvising this whole thing. And this guy was crying. He was laughing so hard.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
And he got back, and he was like, that kid is really. And they were like, that guy. I don't like that guy. And they were like, I'm telling you, he's really funny. Tell them about the thing you told me on the trail. And I couldn't recreate it, and they still hated me.
Sona Movsesian
Did people really dislike you? Like, did you know. Do you think that, like, you walked into a room and people were like, oh, God, Conan's.
Conan O'Brien
I think when I first showed up, people were like, here's. I looked like the Wendy's logo with a bull haircut, and I had a weird name, and I was not good at sports. So I think maybe initially, but then I always. I think people came around Old Cony.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, I think so.
Matt Gourley
It paid off.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, it did. Look at you now.
Conan O'Brien
Look at me now in a small. In a small room. Look at you now in a small room at Larchmont in Los Angeles.
Matt Gourley
You're working with us.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, come on.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, look at us.
Sona Movsesian
We're here.
Conan O'Brien
A podcast with my assistant, the creme de la creme of show business. Did you know that after Dean Martin broke up with Jerry Lewis, he just spent a bunch of his later years just touring around with his assistant?
Sona Movsesian
Was that true?
Conan O'Brien
Nope. Made it up.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, come on.
Conan O'Brien
They made movies.
Sarah Silverman
Why do I follow?
Sona Movsesian
Why do I believe everything you say?
Conan O'Brien
Because I have a certain authority. My guest today was a very funny comedian whose latest comedy special, Post Mortem is available to stream on Netflix starting tomorrow. See how I said tomorrow? Yeah. I'm thrilled she's here. Love her. Who doesn't? Sarah Silverman.
Matt Gourley
Well, we got to do it again, like before. You got to pause before.
Conan O'Brien
Right? You're right. You're right, you're right. Why didn't you mention it?
Matt Gourley
Well, I've mentioned it multiple times.
Conan O'Brien
I hope you fall downstairs soon, but you're not hurt. But it's scary. It's frightening to you. The fall is frightening.
Matt Gourley
Okay, I'm processing that, but thank you.
Conan O'Brien
It's scary and you're scared by it.
Matt Gourley
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
That's what I hope happened to. It's a very specific wish.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I wish you ill, but not that I understand.
Sona Movsesian
Maybe you have a bruise, too.
Conan O'Brien
All right, let's try this again, just.
Matt Gourley
For the listener's sake. If you've been listening chronologically, we're trying to get Conan to leave a pause because some music comes in and just.
Conan O'Brien
I think, you know, you know what we need to do? We need to make some kind of symbol right here between she's here. And then I'll do it again. I'll do that. My guest today is a very funny comedian whose latest special Post Mortem is available to stream on Netflix starting tomorrow. I'm thrilled she's here.
Sarah Silverman
Every time.
Conan O'Brien
Maybe I see one. Sarah Silverman. Welcome.
Sarah Silverman
When I was thinking about today.
Conan O'Brien
And all of you mean dreaming about today.
Sarah Silverman
Yes. And masturbating about today.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, hey.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, no.
Sarah Silverman
But like, with tears, you know, the way you do it.
Conan O'Brien
And I cry when I masturbate. It's true.
Sarah Silverman
I don't know why this. But all I've been singing on the way. Are you still laughing about you crying when you masturbate?
Conan O'Brien
I guess, yeah. Laughing to cover up the fact that it might be true. Go ahead.
Sarah Silverman
I've been singing, Conan, don't be discouraged. The man, he isn't hard to understand. Is that right?
Conan O'Brien
I can't remember song from Chico and the Man.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Chico, don't be discouraged. But you'd made it Conan. I love that. Conan, don't be discouraged.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, that was my parody version.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. But I like it. But it lines up. Cause I often. I'm always worried the man is hard to understand. So it lines up. A lot of kids listening right now are thinking, what's Chico and the man. It was a very popular, very popular sitcom. Huge. Starring Freddie Prinze. And then it ended when the star of the show ended his own life.
Sarah Silverman
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Kind of tragically. It was a big deal when. When I was a kid. It was huge.
Sarah Silverman
I just remember the guy, the comic that gave him the gun was like the youngest comedian ever to be on the Tonight show or something.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, really?
Sarah Silverman
Oh, I like fun facts. I mean, is it the funnest fact? No, maybe not.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, your fun facts are terrible. Fun fact. A fetus can only live two minutes outside the womb if it's less than six months old. Fun fact.
Sarah Silverman
If it's not fun, then why are we all laughing?
Conan O'Brien
You're right. I think that's a good point.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, it's a very good point.
Sarah Silverman
I can't wear my glasses. There she is.
Conan O'Brien
I see you now, Sarah. I come to both name drop and compliment you, which is. I had breakfast this morning with a certain Mr. Billy Crystal who was raving about your show Bedwetter.
Sarah Silverman
He went to see the. Oh, yeah. He went to see the musical.
Conan O'Brien
He went to see the musical. And he was like, it's terrific. It's fantastic. Cause I said, I've got to go. I've got to go see. And then I got to name drop with him. I'm going to go see Sarah Silverman and have a conversation. She's like, oh, you got to tell her her show is amazing. Her show is fantastic. So that's what I'm starting with. I mean, obviously, we had some other talk in there first about fetuses dying, crying while masturbating, and, you know, some stuff that went a little south. But now we get to the good stuff, which is a big compliment from. Yes. We go north with Mr. Billy Crystal. Loving your show. So congratulations.
Sarah Silverman
Yay. Thank you. Yeah, it's in D.C. it closes in a week, or it's probably closed by the time this hits people's ears, but hopefully it will go to whatever. Cut this part out.
Conan O'Brien
No, keep this part in. This, I think, drops in 2020.
Sarah Silverman
This is the clip.
Conan O'Brien
People will be listening to it on their jet packs. I'm very happy when I hear that you're gonna come in and do the podcast. I was like, I got the day off. This is the day off. This isn't work. Talking to you.
Sarah Silverman
It's work.
Conan O'Brien
Is it for you?
Sona Movsesian
No.
Sarah Silverman
For you?
Conan O'Brien
No, it's not. I've always. You're the best. I mean, I love talking to you. I love talking to you. You're a ray of sunshine. And I think in the community of show business, the business of show, who doesn't like them? Some Sarah Silverman. Everybody loves Sarah Silverman.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. When you have a party, everybody shows up. Like when you have these rooftop parties. I mean, these guys. Don. Sorry. Aw, well, come on. Well, it's awkward, but the people I see at your parties, it's incredible to me.
Sarah Silverman
I know there's, like, no one where you are trying to avoid a conversation. I feel. I feel like everyone is a joy to see.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Matt Gourley
Even this guy.
Sarah Silverman
Even this guy.
Conan O'Brien
Even this guy.
Sarah Silverman
Very exciting that you came.
Conan O'Brien
When I show up, people are. Even the biggest stars get excited. Owen Wilson couldn't work up the nerve to come up and talk to me. Yeah, it was exciting to see. It was. I don't know. And you know what I admire about you? You're very funny, and you keep branching out. I saw you in Maestro, and I thought you were a terrific actor. Is that something that you've wanted to do? Did you think about acting? Because I always, you know, I didn't know if that was something that you had, like, an arrow in your quiver for a while. You were just like, I want to try this at some point.
Sarah Silverman
What is this, acting? No, I always wanted to be an actor.
Conan O'Brien
Really?
Sarah Silverman
Yeah. But I always wanted to be a comic. And then that really is, you know, more like. I always think that's, like being gay, being a comedian, you know? Cause you're, like, born that way.
Conan O'Brien
Right?
Sarah Silverman
There's nothing you can do about it.
Conan O'Brien
Right.
Sarah Silverman
And you should just let your freak flag fly. Yes, but I. Yeah, I like acting, but I. Well, it's not up to me, but I feel that people can. I can get lost in a character, and you aren't like, that's Sarah Silverman. But I understand that people tend to worry about that because they go, but everyone knows her, and they, like, you know, she's like herself.
Conan O'Brien
You were not, though.
Sarah Silverman
I wasn't. And I got it.
Conan O'Brien
That's what I thought was interesting about when I saw you in Maestro. I thought, no, you were just this other person. And it was not. There was no speed bump of. Now I have to adjust my dials. Thank you for Sarah Silverman. I thought you really did a beautiful job.
Sarah Silverman
Well, I auditioned. You know, I always want to audition because I, you know, I want to, like, get the part because they, like what I, you know, whatever. I'm. Now I'm embarrassed. This isn't funny or anything.
Conan O'Brien
Well, why can't we just have a conversation? What's Wrong with that? We can add laughs later. We'll pipe them in.
Sarah Silverman
Why would you put laughs here? I always, you know, love to audition. Isn't it funny that the sound of, like, a million people laughing is like a whisper sound effect?
Conan O'Brien
Yes, it's horrifying. That sounds like wind coming through the trees and a murderer's chasing me.
Sarah Silverman
That's, like, when you say, that didn't.
Conan O'Brien
Sound like a lot of people being happy, but maybe you're right. Because when that many people cheer, it sounds like death is on its way.
Sarah Silverman
How do you do it? How do you do that? Well, huge crowd, laughter. Imagine.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Matt Gourley
That sounds like a dental tool.
Conan O'Brien
No, that's a guy who's had a tracheotomy and the tube came out and he's running around the hospital trying to get it plugged back in again. Did I lose the crowd here? What's happening? All right, so it's the same. We're both doing the same scent. I'm gonna take my jacket off, and if you think it's too sexy, I'll put it back on. Jesus. Wow. Okay.
Sarah Silverman
You really know how to wear teal.
Conan O'Brien
A little teal for you right there.
Sarah Silverman
That is a great color on you.
Conan O'Brien
Isn't this nice?
Sarah Silverman
Your eyes pop.
Conan O'Brien
They make the old peepers pop, that's for sure.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, like, the peepers pop.
Conan O'Brien
I distracted you. You like to audition, but they still know it's you. And they know that, you know, what I'm saying is you can't go in anonymously. So sometimes you might even have a higher bar to clear because they're like, oh, it's Sarah Silverman.
Sarah Silverman
No, no, people won't get lost in a. You know, this great writer director, had a series on Apple. I guess I shouldn't say that. Whatever. And he asked me to be in it, and a great role. And I was like, great. And I've had to do this before, too, so I had compassion. But he had to call me and be like, I'm horrified. The people at Apple don't want you for the part. They feel like they. The people won't get lost in you or whatever. And I was like, I totally understand that. Because I had a pilot once, and I asked this amazing director to direct it, and he got right back to me, and he was like, yes, I'm in. And he's like this awesome, cool, far out director. And then it was for NBC years ago, and they were like, oh, no, we don't approve him. What?
Sona Movsesian
Oh, my God.
Sarah Silverman
I know, it was awful. Not that good a story, but thank you for your. This is how you react in a podcast?
Sona Movsesian
It is.
Sarah Silverman
I'm killing Luke.
Conan O'Brien
I am your father. It's kind of close to that. I think that there were many years where I could have made it when I was young, as a leading man.
Sarah Silverman
Who would you play?
Conan O'Brien
I think I was held back by my small eyes, my thin lips, my prominent eye vein, and my complete inability to be someone other than Conan o' Brien. I think those things tragically held me back.
Sarah Silverman
So unfair.
Conan O'Brien
I think. Yes. And I think I needed to. I wish I had broken through those walls because I also.
Sarah Silverman
I think I can't hear the word walls without thinking pussy walls. Go on. I don't know. Why is that even a word?
Conan O'Brien
Well, now neither can I. Cause now you just. That just fucked me up completely.
Sona Movsesian
Like the labia.
Sarah Silverman
I don't know. I don't know where I've heard pussy Wal. Phrase. And I'm sorry to interrupt. I am interested in the story you were telling, whatever it was.
Matt Gourley
But, yeah, let's break this down. Are these interior or exterior walls?
Sarah Silverman
I'm in my mind. It's interior walls. I don't know where I've heard it or why it's so embedded in me. But, like, whenever I'm watching the Bachelor or Bachelorette, which is any given Monday, they always say, like, you know, and I put up my walls, and I always say out loud, pussy walls. And then my boyfriend, who's, like, in another room, hears it and is like, Knows exactly what's happening. Cause it's almost like an OCD thing. But have you guys heard that?
Conan O'Brien
Well, I'm curious.
Sona Movsesian
I've never heard.
Conan O'Brien
In 1989, when the Berlin Wall fell, did you say, that? Poor woman. I mean, I'm just curious. I think that's a great joke, and I think it deserves something.
Sona Movsesian
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this pussy wall. Yeah, yeah.
Conan O'Brien
That's what I'm going for.
Sarah Silverman
It's more. It has to be plural. Or, like, who is the vice. Oh, can you believe I can't remember the vice president. The guy who ran for vice president with Kamala Walls Waltz. Yeah, Tim Walls. That also, in my head, I was like, pussy walls.
Conan O'Brien
Well, that's probably what cost them the election.
Sarah Silverman
What is pussy walls? Why do I have.
Conan O'Brien
Is that.
Matt Gourley
I don't know that. That's something we can Google and find out.
Conan O'Brien
I don't understand pussy walls.
Matt Gourley
I tried.
Conan O'Brien
Please.
Matt Gourley
I'm just saying you're going to get something.
Conan O'Brien
Try it with A Eduardo tried. Well, what. I'm. What I'm in my head. So that if I go to say we need to repair these walls, meaning structural damage to my home from the recent California fires. We need to repair these walls. I'm gonna go to pussy walls, and that's gonna cause all kinds of problems in the household. So you've done this. You've ruined my mind.
Sarah Silverman
That was. I mean, honestly, a little bit. My hope for all of you is that it's infected.
Conan O'Brien
That's interesting. Now you jumped right in with a specific part.
Sona Movsesian
The labia. I thought that.
Conan O'Brien
Just don't do that.
Sona Movsesian
I mean, that's kind of the labia of the vagina. The pussy walls.
Sarah Silverman
As opposed to.
Sona Movsesian
It's just very. He's very weird when you say things like he has the lips. Yeah, Yeah.
Sarah Silverman
I recently learned all this vagina is the hole. That is the hole where the penis goes in and the baby comes out. The urethra is not on your clitoris, but it basically is. I think it's like under the hood of it or something. And it's the tiniest hole that somehow like five streams come out of. And then.
Conan O'Brien
You know what's crazy? I'm learning. Shit.
Sarah Silverman
No, I didn't learn.
Conan O'Brien
I am a grown ass adult with two children and I'm learning. I didn't. Okay, keep going.
Sarah Silverman
And then the vagina is just the whole. It's not the whole. It's not the thing. The thing is called the labia. I've been spanked about this.
Conan O'Brien
I bet you have.
Sarah Silverman
Wow.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, I think.
Conan O'Brien
Wait, what's the matter with you? You look like you're about to pass out.
Matt Gourley
Don't project on me.
Sona Movsesian
But I'm fine.
Sarah Silverman
Did you guys know all this?
Matt Gourley
I think I did. From anatomy class.
Sarah Silverman
Great. Wow.
Conan O'Brien
I think I learned it from his anatomy books. Yeah.
Matt Gourley
And I got it all wrong.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. This was not discussed at any point during my life. And then later on you learn things, and I mean recently, which is shocking. But, yeah, it's okay right now. Yes. From Sarah. But it's incredible that, yes, we should be able to talk about this freely. We should be adults and we should talk about this freely.
Sarah Silverman
I mean, but also, like, as I would say, straight men and gay women have, like, an actual view of the vagina that I have not had. Where you really, like, can see everything or, you know, I mean, it's like.
Conan O'Brien
With the Terminator vision. Like, we have little. And there's little readouts on the side. I mean, there are times in my life when I've been down there. There's these little readouts.
Matt Gourley
What do they say?
Conan O'Brien
What does it say?
Matt Gourley
Like, run away. It says, do not engage.
Conan O'Brien
Do not engage. Do not engage. Flee. Flee, Flee. Hostile. Hostile. You know, it's. It's. It's green and there's these digital readouts on the side. And. Yeah, it's.
Sarah Silverman
I see that. I picture it like it has. It's like pulled back with little pins. Like the. Like a butterfly or. Yeah, like a frog that you dissect or something.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, man.
Sona Movsesian
It's filleted.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah. Because there's so many folds.
Conan O'Brien
You know what I want?
Sarah Silverman
I don't know if mine is one time, many years ago. I'm sorry. I'm talking way too much.
Conan O'Brien
This is fantastic. I love this one time. Gather round, kids. Campfire. Go ahead.
Sarah Silverman
I was upstairs. I mean, this is visual, really. Wait, can I have your pen?
Conan O'Brien
Sure.
Sarah Silverman
But I was at the Cellar a million years ago. The Comedy Cellar. Sorry. And I was sitting at a booth across Marc Maron. And I don't remember who suggested this, honestly, but we both. We each drew a picture of a vagina. And then we showed it to each other. And it was so embarrassing. Cause mine was like. We exposed it, and then his was like that. Like two parentheses in a line. And then mine was like, so much. It was so much detail. But, like, I don't know if that's just me. I don't think that my vagina is, like. Maybe that's more of a expressionist.
Sona Movsesian
It looks like a salad.
Matt Gourley
No, I don't.
Sarah Silverman
My vagina looks like a salad. I don't know if. Is that not. You know what?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, I can see it.
Sarah Silverman
It's like, yes, the hot dog bun. But then if you open that up.
Conan O'Brien
There'S a world, a whole world to be found.
Sarah Silverman
I don't know.
Conan O'Brien
What is it? Nikki Glaser said that it looked like a hastily packed suitcase. Image got into my head.
Sarah Silverman
That's so funny.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. Different perspectives. There's the. Of course, the Marc Maron perspective. Keep in mind, he wears glasses, so maybe he didn't have his glasses on, you know, when he's. When he's.
Sarah Silverman
But that said, I've never been face to face with a vagina.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, come on.
Sarah Silverman
All right. No, I mean, I. You know, I remember my stepsister wanted to go on Shark Tank and try to sell a vagina mirror, which would just be like, basically a mirror on a selfie stick or something. But you could do that with an iPhone. And I have. I guess so.
Conan O'Brien
Wait, A minute. Your sister wanted to sell that as a product.
Sarah Silverman
It's a million dollar idea, isn't it?
Conan O'Brien
It's a rear view mirror. It's a rear view mirror on a sort of.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, well, what is that? Listen, someone put wheels on luggage, like way too late. No one thought of it.
Conan O'Brien
That is true.
Sarah Silverman
When wheels went on luggage, I go, I can't believe it took this long to put wheels on luggage.
Conan O'Brien
Right.
Sarah Silverman
Why was there ever? Why were there ever?
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
That's good.
Conan O'Brien
Isn't that nice? It starts the moments you take off with free in flight wifi so you can stream your favorite show on the go. Obviously that would be this show, I would think.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah. You go in a plane and then you stream your podcast.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
No.
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Sona Movsesian
Right.
Conan O'Brien
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Yeah. You FaceTimed me before from another country and it was crisp. She was clear.
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Conan O'Brien
Hey, this is Will Arnett, host of Smartless. Smartless is a podcast with myself and Sean Hayes and Jason Bateman where Each week, one of us reveals a mystery guest to the other two. We dive deep with guests that you love, like Bill Hader, Selena Gomez, Jennifer Aniston, David Beckham, Kristen Stewart, and tons more. So join us for a genuinely improvised and authentic conversation filled with laughter and newfound knowledge to feed the smartless mind. Listen to smartless now on the SiriusXM app. Download it today. What I want to do is take this episode so far and maybe the whole thing in its entirety and play it for a group and have them turn the dials so that there's. You know what I mean? And just see what happens when we take some of these turns. Do you know what I mean? And I want to say an older crowd. An older crowd that say, remembers the Korean War well. And I want them to be able to, like, turn the dials and just to see what would happen. Wouldn't she be interesting?
Sona Movsesian
I mean, that would be fun.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
I mean, it does take a lot of twists and turns. Like a vagina, right?
Conan O'Brien
No. What. What do you mean, twists and turns?
Sona Movsesian
I don't know what I said.
Sarah Silverman
Vagina's like driving in Italy. It's like, you know, you could get.
Conan O'Brien
Killed at any moment.
Sarah Silverman
You can't believe there's only one lane. There's ocean. There's like a huge cliff with an ocean.
Conan O'Brien
Suddenly there's a burrow in. This is. This just reminds me exactly of the Dana Carvey conversation I had. This is why I don't worry about you. I don't worry about you at all, because we start talking and then suddenly vaginas are flying around.
Sarah Silverman
I did think of something yesterday that I thought only Conan will. Well, you know, I mean, gosh, I can't really do this in standup because I don't feel like anybody would remember. But I do think that they should reveal the Epstein files. But it should be the Juan Epstein files. And all of them are signed Epstein's.
Conan O'Brien
Mother from Mr. Man. This is your second 70s sitcom reference. I love it. Mr. Cotter, did you ever watch welcome Back, Cotter?
Sona Movsesian
I watched it on Nick at Nite. Cause I went through a Travolta phase, and I just loved. I loved that show. But it's. It's silly, right? Well, yeah, it's not considered, like. Is it considered, like. Like, prestige television back then? I don't think so.
Conan O'Brien
I don't think so. I know. It was a huge. It was a huge thing. When I was in fifth, sixth grade, people would put up their hand to go, ooh, ooh, ooh. Like Arnold Horshack. And everyone thought that was hilarious.
Sarah Silverman
I had a. My sister and I had a welcome Back Cotter trash can.
Conan O'Brien
What?
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, it's.
Conan O'Brien
Well, they make lunch boxes. They don't make trash cans.
Sarah Silverman
No, ours, we had a trash can and it said, like. Like, I'm gonna call you schools out cause you have no class. And, like, all the different things they say. And we laughed and threw away our garbage.
Conan O'Brien
I'm glad you saved that Juan Epstein joke for me.
Sarah Silverman
It just seemed like the right place.
Conan O'Brien
So it's the Epstein files.
Sarah Silverman
Right.
Conan O'Brien
But it's Juan Epstein from welcome Back Potter.
Sarah Silverman
We know Trump is all over those. The actual list. So that's probably what he would. Maybe he would reveal that and be like, what I said I was gonna. And I did.
Conan O'Brien
So Trump is gonna release the Juan Epstein files from welcome Back Potter to throw everyone off the scent from the real Epstein and then say, those are the. Okay, I get it. I understand.
Sarah Silverman
So the logs will basically just be Juan Epstein and Juan Epstein's mother.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. Yes. Which was disgusting.
Sarah Silverman
People. Criminals.
Conan O'Brien
Are you a conspiracy theorist?
Sarah Silverman
I don't know. I mean, the moon landing was fake. Are you. I don't.
Conan O'Brien
I am not. No. I am one of those people that thinks the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Sarah Silverman
Occam's Razor.
Conan O'Brien
There you go. I shave with it every day.
Sarah Silverman
Didn't even go to college.
Conan O'Brien
You don't need to go to college. Yeah, I'm not. I am not. When people say, hey, man, you know what I think happened? Man, I'm not in on that ride usually.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah. My. The guy who does my makeup is. Really fell into a whole thing about how the Challenger didn't really explode and all those people are still alive. And, you know, and I. You know, I was in. I was in ninth grade, and we watched it because there was a teacher from Concord, the next town over. Christy McCullough.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Who was killed. Yeah.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah. Well. Or was she?
Matt Gourley
Where are they? Where does he say they are?
Sarah Silverman
They're just living regular lives and with different names.
Conan O'Brien
Does he ever explain why the people on the Challenger would agree to this? You all have families and stuff, but we're gonna pretend that you blew up, and then you're all gonna live in different parts of Cincinnati.
Matt Gourley
And what was the reason they're faking it? Does he say.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, exactly.
Sarah Silverman
I don't know.
Conan O'Brien
See, that's the thing is, they don't even need a reason. They don't even need a reason. Hey, man, you're not thinking it through, man. I'm Sorry. That's my idea of most conspiracy theorists. I'm sorry. If you're a conspiracy theorist and you're listening out there, I think you're conspiracy.
Sarah Silverman
Theorists don't call themselves conspiracy theorists. Right. It's like cults don't call themselves cults. I have a friend who I know, I feel confident, grew up in a cult, and he goes, it's not a cult. I go, you wouldn't know you're in it, right?
Conan O'Brien
Did he have to.
Sarah Silverman
There's no punchline to that. I just.
Conan O'Brien
There doesn't have to be until you call it out and then. You know what I mean? That's just it. We're in it, man. We're talking about it. You know, we're all in the flow. There's no need for there to be a big boom, boom. You know, we're past that. We're in a new, we're in a post comedy world now. I don't know.
Sarah Silverman
Laughs are for pussy walls.
Conan O'Brien
Exactly. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that pussy wall. I'm telling you, Sony, you're onto a great new routine. This is a good routine for you.
Sona Movsesian
I can't do this routine. This is Sarah's routine, you guys.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, she's giving. She does not want it.
Sona Movsesian
Okay. I don't do standup.
Sarah Silverman
Did anything come up when you searched walls?
Conan O'Brien
The only thing I could find, which Eduardo and I think agree, and he was looking for this long before you came in. That's right. I looked at my Internet search history. I look back, and instead of blocking that, he got puss. She got pussy walled.
Matt Gourley
Oh, I've heard of that as clam jamming.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, clam jamming is probably. But the, the wonderful, wonderful theorem and dictionary said that. And then the other. Yeah, I totally got clam jam. Oh, Black Betty clam A jam. Yeah.
Sarah Silverman
And then did you try it as two words or one word?
Matt Gourley
It, well, it says two.
Conan O'Brien
I, I, I think clam. I think it's incorrect. We don't know. We still don't know. I think.
Sarah Silverman
Did you try one word with a Z?
Matt Gourley
So, so my first thought was it has had to have appeared in a rap song somewhere. And sure enough, there's like a couple lyrics where it says, like, ripping through the pussy walls.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I don't think you want to do, you don't want to do that because.
Matt Gourley
We'Re making a lateral move to the side or something. That, that doesn't seem right.
Sarah Silverman
You know what I mean? Right. It doesn't sound like it feels good.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, this is the least hot and heavy talk ever with the. About intercourse. Lateral move. A lateral move near the vaginal wall. Well, I didn't. Could lead to tearing.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, vaginal wall. Vaginal wall.
Conan O'Brien
It's vaginal wall.
Sona Movsesian
It's the hymen. Isn't that what that.
Conan O'Brien
I don't think you know anything.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, okay. Ripping through the pussy walls. Probably the hymen. Maybe. Am I. That makes sense.
Matt Gourley
I don't think of it that way normally, but maybe that's what it is.
Sarah Silverman
The hymen is like a little, like, bag of blood that has no purpose except.
Conan O'Brien
Feels more of a gate than a wall.
Sarah Silverman
It's more like a. I'm resting my.
Conan O'Brien
Head on the microphone.
Sarah Silverman
You ever smoke a Camel Crush before they were outlawed in California?
Conan O'Brien
You keep talking, and I'm just. I'm resting my forehead on the microphone, but what is a Camel Crush? And I'm just going to be listening.
Sarah Silverman
It's got a little ball of, like, menthol poison that you can squeeze, and you hear it go. And then it's a menthol cigarette. And I guess. I guess what I was saying is that's like a hymen.
Matt Gourley
Oh, boy. Can you Google that?
Sarah Silverman
Can we take a nap for the rest of this?
Conan O'Brien
I think we need. I think that we need to take all the furniture out. We need to have it resurfaced. I mean, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I'm at a loss. I think I started out, if you can believe it, with a compliment from Billy Crystal about how you turned your memoir, the Bedwetter, into a musical and how he saw it and he thought it was brilliant and to pass on that compliment. Now there's exploding hymens, lateral penises. Reagan is yelling at Gorbachev to tear down the pussy wall. Vulgar sketches courtesy of a ghost. Marc Maron. Your sister has a crazy device, takes a rearview mirror off a Hyundai, and people can examine themselves, and the whole podcast is just. It's over. It's over. It's over. There will never be another podcast after this one. This is the end of Conan o' Brien needs a friend. This is now. Conan o' Brien needs a job. You've done this. You did this yourself. Yay. You should.
Sarah Silverman
No sound.
Conan O'Brien
You should feel good about it.
Sarah Silverman
You would think I would be done with vagina humor in my 20s, maybe my 30s, surely by my 40s, but there's just still so much more to explore.
Conan O'Brien
You know There is, and it's you speaking your truth.
Sarah Silverman
I'm so sorry. Why don't we talk about your penis and balls?
Conan O'Brien
Okay, let's get into it.
Sarah Silverman
I feel like they talk like this.
Conan O'Brien
Like what?
Sarah Silverman
That was my dad trying to do an Irish accent. Conan, it's your penis and balls. Penis and balls.
Conan O'Brien
It's your penis and balls. I think I've anthropomorphized my genitalia before on this show, and it's always just kind of petulant and whiny. Yeah. I don't wanna. It's always flipping through, like the New Yorker. I'm trying to get it interested in, you know, doing something. I don't wanna to see it. More of that. Is that just. It's recalcitrant. There's a word that's a good word for it.
Sarah Silverman
Ooh.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. It's just kind of fussy and flipping through the New Yorker and looking over its little shoulder, which I guess would be a scrotai. I want to apologize. I promised one great school that we would donate an episode and in advance. I said it was this episode. I just did it numerically. I didn't know it was going to be Sarah Silverman. I said it was episode 3252. So this is being live streamed to the Michael Driscoll School, which is a K through 8 school in Brookline, Massachusetts.
Sarah Silverman
You can be anything you want to be.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Yeah. Today's word is scroti.
Sarah Silverman
Let's not, you know, listen, let's elevate this. Well.
Conan O'Brien
Or take it further or.
Sarah Silverman
Let's not stigmatize words that mean, you know. Yes, our genitals.
Conan O'Brien
Exactly. I mean, what's the problem? I don't see a problem. I really don't. What?
Sarah Silverman
You don't even need to say words.
Conan O'Brien
Anymore to do Seinfeld. You.
Sarah Silverman
He's held hostage and he had tape over his mouth. And he'd still be like, oh, God, I'm just an impressionist. Seinfeld.
Conan O'Brien
Seinfeld, being held hostile, said he wants to know. He wants to know who kidnapped him. He's got tape, duct tape all over. It's a simple question. Jerry has. It's a very reasonable. He wants to know the identity of the people. They wore masks, of course, to get the ransom.
Sarah Silverman
Somebody must have done an impression of him, like, once. He has dementia.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. No, it's. Who are these people? Seriously? And who the fuck am I and where am I? I'm frightened for my life.
Sarah Silverman
That has a little. Has like, undertones of Mr. Howell.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah, it does. It does.
Sarah Silverman
Just to keep it on the 70s.
Matt Gourley
Another sitcom. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Well, that's six. Sorry.
Sarah Silverman
It is?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Gilgan's Island. Yeah. Sorry. I think probably. I'm just gonna guess again.
Sarah Silverman
I have a lot of things I know from Nick at night.
Conan O'Brien
Maybe 68. I don't know. Well, anyway, a little sip of water. Now. Now, my brother Neil would know exactly the air dates for Gilligan's island, so I could always consult him.
Sarah Silverman
Wow.
Conan O'Brien
I swear to God, if I called him up right now, he'd probably. He would. He would tell me exactly. He'd say, oh, yeah, the original air date was September 3, 1964. And then it went off. Yeah, close.
Matt Gourley
It was September 26, 1964.
Conan O'Brien
Is it? I just made up a date.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, my gosh.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, wait. I think what we're revealing here is that I don't have a brother Neil.
Matt Gourley
Neil doesn't exist.
Conan O'Brien
Neil doesn't exist. And I just used Neil as an excuse for my insane knowledge of 60s television. Is Neil in the room with us right now? Yeah, I am Neil. It's like the end of Spartacus. I am Neil. I am Neil. I am Neil.
Matt Gourley
Yeah, but Neil still doesn't know anything about vaginas.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, let's just say Conan doesn't know anything about vaginas.
Sarah Silverman
That's the podcast. The new podcast. The new podcast should be Conan doesn't know anything about vaginas.
Conan O'Brien
Right, but then think of the guests we'd get who'd come in here and explain things to me. Be fantastic. What a great show. Okay.
Sarah Silverman
I've been looking for the picture in my phone of your mouth that I used as my vagina.
Conan O'Brien
That's right.
Sarah Silverman
I've actually been tasked with finding it.
Conan O'Brien
I think we should explain that for any. You should explain it for any listener who doesn't know the story behind what story behind it.
Sarah Silverman
Just kidding. Yes. And not an improviser.
Conan O'Brien
Just gonna rest my head on this microphone. I'm determined to conduct a serious interview with you.
Sarah Silverman
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
And you guys are welcome to jump in at any time and help out, but I'm gonna forge on, which is.
Sarah Silverman
Let's get quiet.
Conan O'Brien
You got to get really quiet here. You wrote a memoir in 2010, and.
Sarah Silverman
Then you decided that's what I'm plugging here.
Conan O'Brien
It needs to be a musical.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, yes.
Conan O'Brien
Where did that leap come from?
Sarah Silverman
Actually, Adam Schlesinger, may he rest in peace, came over my apartment and was like, this book's a musical. And, like, read the chapter titles. He's like, that's a song. You know, whatever. And then I was like, all right, we made it.
Conan O'Brien
Had you experience writing songs before?
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, I had a show on Comedy Central that was a musical, and my first special had music in it.
Conan O'Brien
But I didn't know that you were. Oh, this. I didn't realize you wrote all the songs.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, no, I didn't write all the songs in the Sarah Silverman program. I wrote some of them and co wrote some of them. But in my special Jesus Is Magic, which I. You know, it doesn't. I'm guessing doesn't hold up because I say a lot of things that I wouldn't say today or I'd get in a lot of trouble and have. But it. But, yeah, I wrote this. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, my God. You see my mouth?
Conan O'Brien
You all right?
Sarah Silverman
Can you see my mouth?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sarah Silverman
I just wanted to see if I could do ventriloquism.
Conan O'Brien
Guess what?
Sarah Silverman
What?
Conan O'Brien
You can't. That's very clear. You also have to throw your voice to be a ventriloquist. It's just not about. It's still, well, also articulating, but you also have to throw your voice, I believe.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, no, I can't do that.
Conan O'Brien
Well, if the doll has had a stroke and that's its backstory, then it's okay. Hey. Oh, no. It's terrible what happened to you. It's okay. I'm slowly getting better with. What's your intense therapy? Well, you still don't sound great. Oh, it's a long process of getting better. That's what I would do if I had to be a ventriloquist. I would make sure the doll had a terrible cerebral event. That's what I would call it. Impressive, huh?
Sarah Silverman
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Okay.
Matt Gourley
You did it. You got us back on track.
Conan O'Brien
I'm doing what I can. I'm doing what I can. But anyway, I hear great things about this musical.
Sarah Silverman
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And he saw it because I saw his musical, Mr. Saturday Night, which was really great. And. And the woman who played the incredible Broadway star who played his daughter plays my mother, Beth Ann. That is Shoshanna Bean, and she's incredible. And so he came to see it. Cause they. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Now, are you nervous if you know that someone of that caliber is in the audience? I don't like to know that people are in the crowd.
Sarah Silverman
I don't wanna. Like if I'm performing. No, I don't wanna know. I actually took a chance. Did I tell you this? But I remember. Do you know Todd Glass?
Conan O'Brien
Yes.
Sarah Silverman
So funny. So, so funny. But I worry that he can get in his Head. So it was years ago, and he was about to go on at Largo, and I knew he had, like, some big wigs coming to see him. And I took a chance. And right before he went on, I said, I feel like I should tell you. They didn't show up, but they had. But I felt like. Like if he thought that they didn't show up.
Conan O'Brien
He'll be more relaxed.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah, he'll just be. Fuck it and be super relaxed. And he was. And then when he got off, I go, I lied, they're here. And he was so happy. But it could have gone really bad, of course. But I think what if he had.
Conan O'Brien
Gone out and just badmouthed the exam?
Sarah Silverman
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Right.
Sarah Silverman
Fuck them for not coming.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, fuck them. I don't need them anyway. They're just a bunch of empty suits that could have gone.
Sarah Silverman
My heart was pounding, but I. I felt like it was the right thing to do. And it ended up being good. And now he's a big star.
Conan O'Brien
I think you did the right thing. You took a chance.
Sarah Silverman
He is the funniest, second funniest, third funniest, fourth funniest.
Conan O'Brien
That's the seventh funniest person who's not in this room right now.
Sarah Silverman
Let's take it down.
Conan O'Brien
Let's take it down to. You have a new standup special.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, yeah. Yes.
Conan O'Brien
And I'm gonna bring it up because you've clearly forgotten it, but it's called postmortem.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Now, how long did it take you to put this together, this set?
Sarah Silverman
It was definitely the fastest hour I've put together because of the events that. It's about my parents. You can't relate to this, but died very closely together.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
What's that like?
Sarah Silverman
They died nine days apart, and we moved in and, like, doula. Ed them through death at home. And so it's. It just. And it happened when my last special came out. I've only done. I think this is my fifth special and my last special before that was my fourth special. Oh, I'm sorry. This is a terrible right turn. But maybe. I don't know what's going on. But my elbow, if I even touch it to a surface, it hurts. Excruciating pain. Wow. It's like nerve ending or something. Does this sound familiar?
Sona Movsesian
Yes.
Sarah Silverman
Can you really?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah. That's happened to me.
Sarah Silverman
What is it?
Sona Movsesian
It's like. Like something is weird, and then when you touch it the wrong way, it's very painful. Yeah. But then it just kind of self corrects itself.
Sarah Silverman
But I don't know, my boyfriend goes, you should call the doctor. I go, no, because in three days, it will be gone, and I'll just have never known what it was.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Sarah Silverman
Anyway, what was I saying? My parents died. Sorry, go on.
Conan O'Brien
What was I talking about? Oh, yes. The two most important people in the world to me passed away within nine days of each other. Wow, that's so.
Sarah Silverman
So you win.
Conan O'Brien
I'm very competitive about these things. My parents went within three days of each other, but.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, yeah. So as we're taking care of them, my last special came out. And so when I went back to doing standup, I was starting completely over. And of course, all I had to talk about was my bad experience, and it developed faster than usual.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Because those are such strong feelings. You go out there, it's fresh. You're talking about it. Would you workshop this at the aforementioned Largo? Is that where you would go?
Sarah Silverman
Of course. Of course.
Conan O'Brien
Largo's. Well, we did many. We did podcasts from Largo, I believe. Did we or did we just do. No, we did. You know, we did. We did late night shows during COVID We did the late night shows.
Sarah Silverman
Why are you talking about this like it was in 1987? It just happened. It was all during the pandemic.
Conan O'Brien
Covid feels like a long time ago. It does. It actually does. Now people talk about it and it feels like, oh, yeah, Covid. Anyway, Largo, terrific space. And every time I'm there, I was there recently doing a bunch of.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, my God, you were amazing at the Oscars.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, this is the point of this podcast. Thank you.
Sarah Silverman
You are amazing.
Conan O'Brien
But I worked out stuff for the Oscars at Largo, and your picture is everywhere backstage. Plus, there's a big pillow of your face backstage, which you donated. Yeah, it's very nice. That's a great space to be.
Sarah Silverman
There's not pictures of me everywhere. Yes, there's a couple pictures.
Conan O'Brien
There's a lot of pictures of you. I think you just bring pictures every time you go there.
Sarah Silverman
No, I don't.
Conan O'Brien
But the pillow, you hang them up when no one's looking.
Sarah Silverman
There is a pillow with my face on back there. That's My friend Mark Cohen crocheted it and then he gave it to me. And I lived in a tiny apartment, and I was having lunch with Flanagan, and I was like, I can't. I love him so much, but I can't have a pillow with my face on it in my living room. It's like, it's.
Conan O'Brien
What is your problem? I can have.
Sarah Silverman
He goes Bring it over here.
Conan O'Brien
Bring it over. Wait a minute. My penis suggested. Yeah, bring it over here. So you did this hour. Do you think this is a question that I get a lot that one of your parents was aware that the other had passed? Cause most people that find out that your parents were. Went at the same time or almost the same time, think that it's not coincidental that one person knows that the other has passed and decides to also join them.
Sarah Silverman
Well, no, My dad knew that my stepmother. My stepmother had died. She had cancer. It was terrible. She loved life. Blah. Not blah, blah, blah. Sorry. Not blah, blah, blah at all. But you know what I mean.
Conan O'Brien
How was your eulogy, by the way?
Sarah Silverman
It was.
Conan O'Brien
She loved, like, blah, blah, blah.
Sarah Silverman
She was so wonderful. And they were in bed together holding hands. So he was. They were holding hands. And she had passed away. And my sister had texted me. Cause I had gone home to sleep for the night. And she said, janice has passed away. And dad would normally be awake by now, but I think he. In his bones, he knows and he doesn't. But yeah, he. Well, he lived another week and. And people came to visit him and stuff. And so he knew. And he even. He was so funny in his final days, like, Jeff Ross came over. He was very close to my parents. Roastmaster Jeff Ross, Roastmaster General. Not your executive producer for midnight, though. That would be. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Jeff would not go by if your dad was on his way out. Yeah, what's the point? Why would I go? There's no soup there. I got food. I don't think I'll go. He'd be talking to your dad out as he was. As he was dying, while texting.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, God.
Conan O'Brien
But anyway, so. But so Roastmaster Jeffrey Ross, Master General.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah. And he. First of all, he came, and I, odd, shockingly, have this on video. So I talk about the thing and then you see it at the end, you know, like in the credits. I put a bunch of, like, videos and pictures, like, you know, when you see a biography or something, and then you see the. Like, the real people. I like that. Anyway, anyway, Jeff walked in and he said everyone called my dad Schleppie. Schleppy. I got bad news. I don't think you can be my emergency contact anymore. My dad was laughing. And then Jeff had introduced my parents to this magician named Bernie Shine, who's closer to their age, and they all became good friends. And about six months earlier, they had all gone to see Bernie do magic. So Jeff is sitting with my dad and he goes, do you want Me to facetime, Bernie, so you could say goodbye. And my dad said, okay, and. Cause my dad wanted to go. He probably could have gotten better, but he was like, no, I'm good. I wanna. He really just wanted to be with his Janice. So Jeff calls him and he holds up, you know, the camera. And Bernie gets on and he goes, donald. He goes, donald, I'm so sorry. And my dad goes, bernie, your show was so bad it killed Janice.
Conan O'Brien
God bless him. That's hilarious.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, my God. And then he goes. And I'm not feeling so hot either. He knew he was gonna go dying.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, my God. That would be. I hope. I mean, I hope I'm able or in condition whenever my time comes, I hope I can be nice to be funny on the way out, wouldn't it?
Sona Movsesian
You're gonna be funny. I don't know how you stop yourself from it.
Conan O'Brien
I just wanna do, like. But I really wanna do long, involved bits that take a long time. Time that interfere with my medical care.
Sarah Silverman
You're gonna be lying in bed, like, I'm funny still, right?
Sona Movsesian
So funny, right?
Sarah Silverman
Am I funny?
Conan O'Brien
How was that last one? How was that last one, Liza?
Sarah Silverman
It's funny, right?
Conan O'Brien
Mr. O' Brien, you'd live if you could just take this pill. But we can't get it in your mouth because it keeps moving. But. Right. But, like, it's still funny, right? Like, what I'm doing is funny. I'm telling you, what you have is not that bad. You just need this antibiotic right now. If you just sit still, he's dead. He wouldn't stop. Come on. You love it here. You love hanging with us. We're the best.
Sarah Silverman
I love it here.
Conan O'Brien
What's better than hanging?
Sarah Silverman
How are we doing on time? No, I'm just kidding.
Conan O'Brien
No, we've.
Sarah Silverman
That was a real Kevin Nealon.
Conan O'Brien
My favorite Kevin Nealonism of all time was when he was on the talk show once. And I've mentioned this, but I don't care. He's on the talk show and he's doing really well. Everything's going great. And then there's a brief pause where neither one of us are talking. And Kevin just says, where is our waiter? That just kills me. And that clip is out there.
Sarah Silverman
I think he's like, the most underrated.
Conan O'Brien
Although people do love him. I mean, his episodes on this show consistently. So he is acknowledged. People know how funny.
Sarah Silverman
He's the funniest.
Conan O'Brien
I always tell. I tell Kevin all the time. I'm telling you, you're the funniest. And People know it. Yeah, it's out there. It's out there.
Sarah Silverman
Oh, okay. That's the line.
Conan O'Brien
It's on the dark web.
Sarah Silverman
Everybody knows. No, he's so fucking. He's so funny. And I love his jokes. You know his joke where he goes, this is what bothers me about, like, the generation after, you know, like, of comics who are like, like, that's so hacky. Talking about airplanes, talking about rental cars. Difference between New York or la. That's because comics used to have to be on the road and they still do, you know, and that was their lives and that's what they're talking about. It's not just hackneyed because, like, you heard someone tell you that stuff is hackney. Nothing is if it's funny. Like, there's no topic that's. You can't talk about. Anyway, this isn't part of his joke, but he has a joke about being on an airplane and he goes, you know, I was on an airplane, you know, and I. I don't think that the pilot was very experienced. You know, he. He got on and he goes, oh, thank you for flying with us. We'll be taking off in roughly five to ten.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, whoa, whoa, here we go.
Sarah Silverman
And then he comes back on 10 minutes later. Oh, where is the. Oh, here it is. I used to do impressions. No, I don' not in his professional love, but he would always do impressions of the Beatles. Talking about. Does this ring a bell? No, I'm not going to do it. Right. You just have to have him do it when he's here. But it's like, I remember I was like, I was fucking John in the asshole and I pulled out and it came on his face. And that's when we wrote I Will. That's like a easy version, but like a real, like almost. Almost Aristocrats version of the Beatles, talking about how they wrote songs.
Conan O'Brien
I never heard him go blue.
Sarah Silverman
I think that's why it's just only for, you know, at home words.
Conan O'Brien
You just sold him out as being incredibly. Yeah, I adore him. I adore that man. We both do. He's not here, but, I mean, he's not dead. He is to me. Our thing is we don't look each other in the eye. We just will never be, you know, I won't take down my wall. He won't take down his. There's the. See, it all comes around.
Sarah Silverman
Pussy around.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, wait, no, okay, I'm stopping it here.
Sarah Silverman
Pussy here.
Conan O'Brien
The show is postmortem. It's streaming on Netflix.
Sarah Silverman
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And I post mortem.
Sarah Silverman
But it's not sad. I mean, it's got sad moments, but.
Conan O'Brien
It'S is, you know, it's a comedy special.
Sarah Silverman
It's a comedy hour comedy special.
Conan O'Brien
I don't think I, I just, all I did was say the title and you went, it's not sad. I said the title. You have that title. That's the title you came up with.
Sarah Silverman
It's about my parents dying. But I am pointing out that it is, you know, just the funny parts.
Conan O'Brien
A good comic can take any, any, any event.
Sarah Silverman
Tragedy plus less than a year equals comedy.
Conan O'Brien
Thank you so much for being here.
Sarah Silverman
We've said it all.
Conan O'Brien
We said it all. Like Bogey and Bacall. I treasure our friendship.
Sarah Silverman
I do too.
Conan O'Brien
And I'm happy whenever you're coming by. And I think I learned a lot about female anatomy today and male anatomy and that Kevin Yuen's really blue, disgusting comedian when I'm not around. He's never does that stuff for me. Only for you. No. Sad now. But Sarah, thank you for being here.
Sarah Silverman
You can also fart on command. Anyway, thanks. Bye.
Eduardo Perez
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Today.
Matt Gourley
Okay, let's do some review the reviewers. This is where we kind of read through some of the Apple podcast reviews and we can, we can review or answer or comment anything they Say so let's do it.
Sona Movsesian
They're all five stars, right?
Matt Gourley
They're all five stars, yes. This from Deborah pdx. Okay. Called Conan the Bacterium. I love you guys so much. Have you heard about Conan the Bacterium? This is a real bacterium that can survive radiation. Check out the recent episode of Shortwave. Here's a quote from the episode. It sounds like it's describing all three of you. Oh, my God. He recalls thinking, there's something new that forms when you put the pieces together, which makes it better than one or the other. It's the combination in which they interact with each other. In other words, the interaction between the three components is greater than the sum of its parts.
Conan O'Brien
Aww.
Matt Gourley
That's cone in the bacteria.
Conan O'Brien
But I don't understand. They say the bacteria is hard to defeat because it's got three components sense.
Matt Gourley
They just said it can survive radiation, so.
Conan O'Brien
Huh.
Matt Gourley
Good question.
Sona Movsesian
What if that's what you're named after? Because your dad's. Your dad's a microbiologist. What if he was like, oh, Conan. And he was like, oh, God, let's name this one Conan.
Conan O'Brien
Really mean thing to say. Well, that's not how I was named Conan.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
My dad went to the. I was not unnamed for a little while.
Matt Gourley
For how long?
Conan O'Brien
I was born. I don't think that long. But they were, you know, they want the name right away. And my dad said he wanted to go to the medical school library. And look, he didn't have the name yet. And he looked up names. He thought it should be interesting. And my dad had very specific ideas about how a first name should work with a last name. And because the last name is o' Brien, he thought it should end with. It should allide. Well, with the last name.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, he's right.
Conan O'Brien
He's right. And he also wanted something that was simple. He hated nicknames. So his name was Thomas and everyone called him Tom, and he didn't like that. So he wanted a name that wouldn't be broken down into a nickname. He had all these rules. And so Luke Neil Conan.
Matt Gourley
But where did he find Conan?
Conan O'Brien
He looked up, and I think it's, you know, one of the early religious figure. I don't know if it was a cardinal who was in Ireland. And actually there's a very famous thing called the Bayeux Tapestry, which is this, like, cartoon that describes the battle in 1066 and all the things that happened when England was invaded by the Normans. And there's one panel that shows a guy fleeing, and underneath his name, he's a cowardly person. It says C O N A N. And then the next panel is Conan surrendering the keys to the city. And he has the keys on a long pole. Like he's so afraid. He just doesn't even want to touch the bad guys. He's just handing them the keys on a long pole. Oh, my God. It's one panel. And then the. And my parents, years ago, went to the gift shop where the Bayou Tapestry is held, and you can look up the different panels. And they bought the two panels and gave them to me. Conan fleeing the battle. And then Conan handing over the keys. And it's hilarious. So I'm named for this guy who did say ran away.
Sona Movsesian
He saw this and they.
Conan O'Brien
No, no, no. That's not why he named me that. He just. He found that later on and thought it was really funny. He gave me that name. Cause he saw it somewhere. He thought it was really, really. Didn't know anything about Conan the Barbarian. Nothing.
Sona Movsesian
He's cool. Yeah, Conan is a really cool. It's just. Cause all your other siblings have, like, pretty traditional names.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, it's.
Sona Movsesian
And then you're not traditional.
Conan O'Brien
It's like, you know, there's that story, that song by Johnny Cash, boy named sue, where a guy names his son sue and he gets beat up all the time, but it makes him stronger. And then at the end, he goes to his dad and says, why'd you call me Sue? And he's just like, cause it made you a tougher guy.
Eduardo Perez
I was.
Conan O'Brien
You know, Conan was a little like that at times growing up.
Sona Movsesian
Did it make you tougher?
Conan O'Brien
Oh, God. Well, clearly you've seen them. I'm pretty. A pretty rough and tumble fellow.
Sona Movsesian
You're very much like the Tapestry version of Conan.
Matt Gourley
How many keys have you handed over?
Conan O'Brien
It can go one of two ways. Either make you tougher or make you immediately surrender in the Battle of Hastings.
Matt Gourley
The first time I met you, you just handed me your car keys.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I'm sorry. On a pole. I'm sorry. Please don't hurt me.
Matt Gourley
So named after your grandma, is that right?
Sona Movsesian
My grandma? Yeah. Well, you know, my. I go by my middle name. Tallinn is just a. Like a. I think it was just like a nice Armenian name. But then they just called me Sona.
Conan O'Brien
Does Sona have a meaning?
Sona Movsesian
Well, she was Greek, but the name itself in Hindi means gold.
Conan O'Brien
That's cool.
Sona Movsesian
But I don't know if it. If there's like. If there's a Greek meaning to it. I don't know. I have no Idea. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
You haven't given it much thought. Matthew, are you named after anybody?
Matt Gourley
My namesake really belies me because it's really cool, and it just doesn't fit for me. I was named after Marshall Matt Dillon from Gunsmoke.
Conan O'Brien
You're kidding.
Sona Movsesian
What?
Matt Gourley
I know.
Conan O'Brien
What a cool person to be named after.
Matt Gourley
I know.
Conan O'Brien
I was almost named Festus. And that's really funny if you watch that TV show.
Matt Gourley
My grandmother, who died the week I was born, loved. Loved that show and loved him. So she kind of, I think, to honor her, they named me after him.
Sona Movsesian
I thought it was biblical.
Matt Gourley
That's not my.
Conan O'Brien
I know my name after a TV show from the 60s and 70s is hilarious.
Sona Movsesian
That's awesome.
Matt Gourley
I know my name is very biblical. Matthew, James. But my dad's name is James. None of it's biblical.
Conan O'Brien
It's interesting. Very interesting.
Matt Gourley
Can I point out that it says in Latin, sona means can be heard.
Sarah Silverman
No way.
Sona Movsesian
What?
Conan O'Brien
That's so funny. Try not hearing her.
Sarah Silverman
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
I'm sorry.
Sona Movsesian
That is so cool. I can't believe I never thought to, like, Google that.
Matt Gourley
Do you know what Matthew means?
Conan O'Brien
What?
Sarah Silverman
Gift of God.
Sona Movsesian
It is a true.
Matt Gourley
You didn't get everything right?
Conan O'Brien
God.
Matt Gourley
All right, I'm gonna re. Gift this one. God.
Conan O'Brien
You got a factory irregular.
Sona Movsesian
What am I doing?
Matt Gourley
What is this, a white elephant?
Sona Movsesian
Nothing. I'm jerking off the thing. I'm doing the jerk off motion.
Conan O'Brien
When you do the jerk off, no.
Sona Movsesian
One can see it.
Conan O'Brien
Can I say something? When you do the jerk off motion, you always have the penis way off to the side.
Matt Gourley
I know.
Conan O'Brien
And it's coming out at a weird angle.
Matt Gourley
It's like you're around the corner.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
What?
Conan O'Brien
And also, no, it's not salad dressing. Yeah, it's not salad dressing. And it's not castanets. Oh, my God. Oh, now you're a pepier. Grind that out. Oh, my God. All right, well, let's don't look at the video for this. You won't like it.
Sona Movsesian
No, I know. Don't do it.
Matt Gourley
I'm worried for your husband.
Conan O'Brien
Hey. Thank you. No wonder Tack has always doubled over in pain. Surprise.
Sona Movsesian
Is that how it's done? Is that how it's done? You don't.
Conan O'Brien
Sona got all hot and heavy last night. It's also not just one of those.
Matt Gourley
It's all of those.
Conan O'Brien
He's gotta go through all of them. Yeah. Oh, my. Stop it. Stop it. Oh, my God. Now he's at Benihana. Now he's at Benihana. Oh, my God. Blink blink, blink.
Matt Gourley
Oh, he made the onion volcano.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, okay, let's wrap this up. Thanks you fan. We took your kind of interesting scientific fact and we got to Benny Hannah Scheff chopping up with blades tacks. All right, peace out, Tupac.
Matt Gourley
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Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend
Episode: Sarah Silverman Returns Again
Release Date: May 19, 2025
In this special episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, host Conan O’Brien reunites with the beloved comedian Sarah Silverman. Joined by Conan’s assistant Sona Movsesian and producer Matt Gourley, the trio delves into a candid and humorous conversation that intertwines personal anecdotes, professional insights, and playful banter.
The episode kicks off with Conan introducing Sarah Silverman, highlighting their longstanding professional relationship dating back to the early '90s. Conan reminisces about their first meeting, saying, “We met in 1990. 1993. You're one of my earliest talk show guests” (02:01).
Conan shares humorous stories from his childhood, reflecting on his imaginative escapades and how they shaped his comedic persona. He recalls creating elaborate backstories, such as claiming he had “been in prison because I had murdered a fan in the stands” (04:52). These anecdotes underscore Conan’s natural inclination towards humor and storytelling.
Sarah Silverman discusses her journey in comedy, including her transition into acting. She remarks, “I always wanted to be an actor” (13:17), revealing her desire to explore different facets of performance art. Conan praises her versatility, noting her standout performance in Maestro: “I thought you were a terrific actor. Is that something that you've wanted to do?” (12:58).
A significant portion of the episode humorously navigates the intricacies of human anatomy. Sarah initiates the topic by sharing an embarrassing yet funny experience: “We each drew a picture of a vagina. And then we showed it to each other” (22:35). This leads to a lighthearted yet informative discussion about the complexities and misconceptions surrounding female anatomy.
The conversation evolves into playful mock-science as Conan and Sarah invent terms and jokes related to anatomy. For instance, Conan jokes about “pussy walls” and its unintended vulgar undertones, prompting laughter and further comedic exploration (19:07). This segment highlights their chemistry and ability to turn even the most sensitive topics into comedic gold.
Sarah delves into her latest Netflix special, Post Mortem, which poignantly addresses the loss of her parents. She shares, “They died nine days apart, and we moved in and, like, doula-ed them through death at home” (46:07). Conan acknowledges the emotional depth of her work, commending her ability to find humor amidst tragedy: “A good comic can take any event... and turn it into comedy” (57:25).
The episode takes a heartfelt turn as Sarah discusses coping mechanisms following her parents' simultaneous passing. She recounts moments of levity and support from friends, including a memorable interaction with Roastmaster Jeff Ross, who lightens the mood during a difficult time (51:00). This segment offers listeners a glimpse into Sarah's resilience and the therapeutic power of humor.
Throughout the episode, Conan and Sarah emphasize the importance of friendship in their lives. Conan expresses his gratitude, saying, “I treasure our friendship” (57:32), while Sarah echoes the sentiment, highlighting their mutual respect and admiration. Their shared stories and laughter reinforce the show's core mission of fostering genuine connections.
As the episode wraps up, the trio reflects on the memorable conversation, blending humor with heartfelt moments. Conan concludes with a playful nod to their ongoing banter, “I learned a lot about female anatomy today and male anatomy and that Kevin's really blue, disgusting comedian when I'm not around” (57:43). The episode ends on a high note, celebrating the enduring friendship and comedic brilliance of both Conan and Sarah.
This episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend with Sarah Silverman is a masterful blend of humor, honesty, and heartfelt moments. From playful discussions about anatomy to deep conversations about loss and resilience, Conan and Sarah offer listeners an engaging and authentic experience. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the show, this episode encapsulates the essence of what makes Conan's podcast a unique and cherished space for genuine friendships and laughter.