Snack Attack Strikes Back with Talent Coordinator Maddie Ogden

Summary

Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend - "Snack Attack Strikes Back with Talent Coordinator Maddie Ogden"

Introduction

In the June 19, 2025 episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, Conan delves into the evolution of the show's guest snack baskets. Joined by his co-host Sona Movsesian and team members Adam Sachs, Matt Gourley, and Eduardo Perez, Conan explores the shift from indulgent to healthier snack options and the subsequent reactions from both the team and their audience.

The Snack Basket Critique

Conan initiates the discussion by addressing the changes in the snack baskets provided to celebrity guests. He expresses his dissatisfaction with the increasing focus on health-conscious options:

“I thought things were getting way too healthy. And this is a bit of a follow-up to that because I've seen real positive change.” [01:44]

He specifically criticizes the inclusion of unconventional and overly healthy snacks, highlighting mushroom jerky as a significant misstep:

“Mushroom jerky broke my brain.” [02:59]

Matt Gourley concurs, pointing out mushroom jerky as the "big offender."

Positive Changes and Listener Response

Acknowledging the feedback received from the initial critique, Conan shares how the segment resonated with the audience, leading to an influx of snack submissions:

“Since then, our show here in Larchmont has been bombarded with snacks. Every day I come in, there's new snacks.” [03:14]

Sona Movsesian notes the variety and improvement in the new snack offerings, mentioning favorites like popcorn and Oreos:

“I liked some of the stuff in there. I think you were a little harsh because I liked a lot of the stuff that was in there.” [03:55]

New Snack Additions

The team discusses the diversity of snacks now being included in the baskets, reflecting a balance between healthier options and classic favorites. Eduardo Perez shares his reservations about trying certain new snacks, emphasizing the team's cautious yet open approach to the evolving snack selection.

Future Snack Ideas and Protein Focus

Conan and the team brainstorm potential enhancements to the snack baskets, contemplating a shift towards more protein-rich options. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they explore outrageous ideas, including the infamous "Conan’s Meat Flute."

“Conan's Meat Flute. All proceeds go to him.” [21:22]

Despite the jest, the underlying intention is to diversify the snack offerings to better cater to varying tastes and preferences.

Humorous Directions and Team Banter

The episode is peppered with lighthearted banter and jokes, particularly surrounding the absurdity of some proposed snack ideas. The team's camaraderie shines through as they navigate the delicate balance between humor and genuine improvement of the show's snack selection.

Conclusion

Conan wraps up the discussion by acknowledging the successful rollback of the overly healthy snack options, particularly the removal of mushroom jerky, which garnered strong support from both the team and listeners:

“Good job with the snacks. I think they are. I think the snack game is way improved. And just getting rid of the mushroom jerky, which was a total, total fail.” [16:23]

Eduardo Perez humorously comments on the backlash received for including mushroom jerky, reinforcing the positive reception of the changes.

Notable Quotes

• “Mushroom jerky broke my brain.” – Conan O’Brien [02:59]
• “I think they are way improved.” – Conan O’Brien [16:23]
• “Conan's Meat Flute. All proceeds go to him.” – Adam Sachs [21:22]

Final Thoughts

This episode highlights Conan's commitment to enhancing the guest experience by refining the snack offerings. Through candid discussions and playful interactions, the team demonstrates their dedication to creating a more enjoyable and balanced snack selection, ensuring that both guests and listeners share in the fun and functionality of the show's hospitality.

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah. Like, who needs a crust?

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, we're going to do something a little different today. As you know, I run a powerful podcast company here. Thriving concern, and we always are trying to improve things. Recently, we talked to our town coordinator, Matty Ogden about our snacks that we were offering the celebrity guests that come on. I thought things were getting way too healthy. And this is a bit of a follow up to that because I've seen real positive change. One of the things she does is she treats the incoming talent, whoever it might be. All the greats come here. Cesar Romero, Rudolph Giuliani, all of our great podcast guests over the years. You know, Al Jolson, Woody the Woodpecker, all the guests that come. She writes out a nice thing on a chalkboard with colored chalk. Welcome, Woody. Welcome. Former mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani, now disgraced, and she writes a nice thing and then she provides a gift basketball. And I was getting very critical of the gift basket. Cause it used to be great. And then I noticed over time, it got super healthy. Did you guys notice this, too? And we talked about it. We had a segment about it, and we discussed it, and it started to get filled with, like, oh, it's a weird kale chip and blade. Feel free to jump in anything. Mushroom jerky. You know, mushroom jerky.

[Matt Gourley]

That was the big offender.

[Conan O'Brien]

Mushroom jerky broke my brain. So we called Matty in, and Matty talked about it. And I think it was a very popular segment. People. I heard about it a lot from people out on the street. From the people on the street, because I walk the streets.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm often seen walking the streets at night. And I'm just trying for the people to come talk to me. And people really like that segment. Since then, our show here in Larchmont has been bombarded with snacks. Every day I come in, there's new snacks. People are sending us snacks because they want to be part of our snack basket, which was never a promotional opportunity at all. This was not something that we were doing to.

[Sona Movsesian]

Maybe it should have been.

[Conan O'Brien]

Maybe it should have been. Maybe we weren't playing the game. Right. Yeah.

[Adam Sachs]

Well, it is now, because we have mentioned some snacks we get.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's true. I mean, no mushroom jerky. That's not allowed. No. And no, like, weird collagen chips. Oh, yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

I liked some of the stuff in there. I think you were a little harsh because I liked a lot of the stuff that was in there. But now when they're bringing, like, you know, all the different popcorn and I saw Oreos, I was like, yeah, maybe this is better.

[Conan O'Brien]

Exactly.

[Adam Sachs]

There's Almond Joys now, too.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, it's for. If Maddie's here, we should have her come in. If she's. If she's here, let's have Maddie come in because we can talk to her and maybe she can update us on what's been sent in. This is what's called. And I happen to know this, so enough. You know what we call this? It's called a follow up.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

Well, thank you. That's cool.

[Conan O'Brien]

And people like a follow up. And.

[Adam Sachs]

Hi, Matty.

[Conan O'Brien]

Maddie Ogden, come on in.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, she's carrying a box.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. And, Maddie, this was unplanned. I didn't set this up beforehand. But would you agree that since this segment aired, we've been getting people sending us snacks? Is that true? That's a microphone right there. Are we getting snacks or Are we not getting snacks?

[Eduardo Perez]

We are getting snacks. We are getting snacks sent to us to meet Maddie, the talent coordinator and snack artist.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

What is this?

[Eduardo Perez]

This is. This actually arrived today along with other snacks. Showstopper cookies.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, that was really good.

[Eduardo Perez]

A Portland native like myself and Michelle's granola, which Eduardo's wife is a huge fan of. I will be honest, I have yet to dig in because I am nervous to make Snackfluencer videos because I don't consider myself to be an influencer.

[Sona Movsesian]

Snackfluencer.

[Eduardo Perez]

But. And then this is like air puff corn, which I haven't tried. Sona has tried. And my understanding is that it's like a healthier version of Pirate's Booty.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, so first of all, I want to make sure this is all on the level with Adam Sachs, our guru. We're just mentioning products. I am not here. I don't want to be later on charged with some kind of scam. This is just us discussing. This is okay. Yeah, I think we're good. Maybe it's Tanisha. Tanisha's going to come in here and she's going to say, you can't mention that puffcorn, because we have a side deal with Pippi Pappy's popcorn from Cincinnati.

[Tanisha]

We can't stop people from sending us food.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're right. You're right. We cannot stop people from sending us, like, air popcorn. 50 calories per cup. Better than popcorn, it says. But that must mean it's not popcorn. It's popcorn. What is it?

[Sona Movsesian]

It's like a healthy Cheeto.

[Adam Sachs]

Can we try it?

[Eduardo Perez]

Let's see.

[Sona Movsesian]

But it's better.

[Conan O'Brien]

We did not prepare this, and this is sealed pretty well. And Maddie has no knife or anything. And now she's tearing at it like a wild animal.

[Sona Movsesian]

And Blay gave her a.

[Conan O'Brien]

You threw her pen so she could.

[Matt Gourley]

Write a letter to request at night.

[Adam Sachs]

Oh.

[Conan O'Brien]

There's different flavors, but, I mean, I'm seeing pancake.

[Eduardo Perez]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Let me try pancake. Let me try pancake.

[Eduardo Perez]

Jalapeno cheddar.

[Conan O'Brien]

This is pancake flavored puffcorn.

[Sona Movsesian]

I already had a bag.

[Conan O'Brien]

Try this.

[Adam Sachs]

Did you look?

[Conan O'Brien]

I did.

[Sona Movsesian]

White cheddar was. It was really good.

[Adam Sachs]

Oh, white cheddar and pancake, I bet.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my God. Yeah, but it is good. It's a little alarming when you first bite into it, and then. It's great.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, it's good. I really like these snack segments.

[Conan O'Brien]

We do.

[Sona Movsesian]

Because all I do is snack here. I'm a big Snacker. You don't snack as much as.

[Conan O'Brien]

I try not to snack as much on air talent, I try to keep a lean body weight.

[Adam Sachs]

How many bowls of Fruity Pebbles did.

[Conan O'Brien]

You have to make? Be honest.

[Sona Movsesian]

Didn't you have me tell everyone to remove them from the kitchen because you don't trust yourself around the Fruity Pebbles?

[Conan O'Brien]

I have an addiction issue, and I respectfully ask that Fruity Pebbles, the magical cereal that turns milk into plutonium, be taken away.

[Adam Sachs]

How many balls today?

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't want to talk about it.

[Adam Sachs]

And then yesterday.

[Conan O'Brien]

Two today, two today. For yesterday.

[Sona Movsesian]

Are we on air talent? If this is a pod, are we considered on air talent or. I know you. You are because you're on air a lot. But doesn't that make us on air talent, too?

[Conan O'Brien]

What are you getting at?

[Sona Movsesian]

Do I need to diet?

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, side note, so.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're beautiful. What are you talking about?

[Sona Movsesian]

It's really nice. I'm stress eating a lot. It's fine. It's okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

What are you talking about?

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, I am.

[Conan O'Brien]

And no one listen. No one's.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thanks, pal.

[Conan O'Brien]

No one's watching or not watching me or listening or not listening because of how I appear, clearly. So, you know, this is also.

[Eduardo Perez]

Can I say, Sona, growing up watching you and your presence on the Conan show growing up. Maddie, I'm 14. We're violating a lot of child labor laws. But I just wanted to say no, like, genuinely, like, as I was, you know, three watching you and, you know, starting to become a. Become a toddler. I. I'm. I'm young. I'm not that young, but I. You were. And I. I talked to my friends about this, and it's true. Like, you were such a healthy influence on a young woman. Because the truth is, I'm. I'm sorry. I know this is a comedy podcast. I'm going to be. I'm going to be real for a second. But it's. It's. It sucks growing up as a woman. I think that that's, you know, hot take, but. And you were such a healthy influence that you, first of all, were never afraid to be yourself, but that you were so. I think the term body positive is kind of like. But it's true in the sense that, like, you know, you growing up, like, you were so open about your love of snacks and sometimes alcohol. Alcohol.

[Sona Movsesian]

No, I don't need to know.

[Conan O'Brien]

But you. I'll just say this, like Zorba the Greek. You live. You lived life. You love life, and it was really healthy.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, it's really nice. Thanks.

[Eduardo Perez]

And beautiful. And you're just a good.

[Sona Movsesian]

You're a good.

[Eduardo Perez]

You're a good role model. And it's still bizarre for me to work with you every day. And I just wanted to say that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow. I didn't see this coming at all.

[Sona Movsesian]

You wouldn't have done it if you did.

[Conan O'Brien]

If I had known this was gonna turn out to be some sort of kind thing for Sona, I would have ditched this thing a long time ago.

[Sona Movsesian]

Women's empowerment.

[Conan O'Brien]

But I think that's very lovely that that was said.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's really nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

And it's very nice of you to say it. And I wish I had been included in that somehow. But we'll let it go.

[Eduardo Perez]

Let the record show I've written him multiple cards. He can't.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I shred them. I. I'm gonna dig in. Okay. These snacks are good. I would recommend these for the gift basket, but we're getting other stuff in too. Did we get Oreos?

[Eduardo Perez]

Oreos? Well, I haven't put them in the basket. I gave those just to you. But I can get snack pack Oreos if that pleases thy Lord.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, I never compared myself to Jesus. That was one time when I said I could convert water into wine.

[Matt Gourley]

Since people are sending us snacks, and clearly you have a power to influence what's being sent us. Do you want to call out any sort of snack that you'd like to try or something?

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't. I feel like I shouldn't alter the course of history. Got it. Okay. Like in Star Trek. This is going to get you excited because I know you're a big Star Trek fan. You can't interfere with civilization on the planet.

[Matt Gourley]

It's the snack prime directive.

[Conan O'Brien]

Exactly. I knew you'd know the. Sorry, the actual quote. Well, listen, I like the way the direction is going with the snacks. That's why this is called a follow up.

[Eduardo Perez]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

Didn't expect it to be this. This the Sona turn. I didn't see it coming, but it was lovely.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, I had to sneak it in.

[Conan O'Brien]

Always keep a box cutter with you. So you put it. Open the box.

[Eduardo Perez]

Understood.

[Adam Sachs]

Especially around Conan.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Eduardo Perez]

That was unforgivable. I am sorry. A lot of people have roasted me online as a liberal fuck for doing that. And I have to say I can't disagree. That was a valid criticism.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, list. I don't often agree with the far right, but when it comes to mushroom jerky, I do.

[Eduardo Perez]

Me too.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Keep America strong. All right, well, you do something with this. Make it into something, and then we.

[Adam Sachs]

I'm just lost in popcorn right now.

[Matt Gourley]

Amazing.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's weird, isn't it?

[Adam Sachs]

I will break the prime directive and say, send more popcorn.

[Eduardo Perez]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

And the pancake flavor is a hit. Yeah.

[Eduardo Perez]

And the jalapeno cheddar, you can have.

[Sona Movsesian]

More of that one. Yeah, I opened it, but I'm actually feeling the white cheddar.

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm gonna try that.

[Adam Sachs]

Let's try some of that cheddar.

[Sona Movsesian]

You want some of this?

[Adam Sachs]

Give me some cheddar.

[Conan O'Brien]

Matty, is there a snack that you're thinking of that you're pondering that would be moving us in a whole new direction that you haven't pulled the trigger on yet? Meaning would we ever go to giving somebody. This is gonna stuff the top of my head. But like, a candied ham.

[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Or I mean, like a meat product. Would we ever do that? Would we ever do a jerky of some kind? A real jerky? Would we ever do. I don't know, like, very carb heavy.

[Matt Gourley]

I think a little more protein, maybe.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes. Thank you, Blay. Thank you. That's what I think I was going for, is that it's all very chippy and very crunchy and salty.

[Eduardo Perez]

Snacks.

[Conan O'Brien]

Those are all delicious things. Yes. But a snack can also be a piece of a slice of sirloin steak.

[Adam Sachs]

Like a roasted pig on a spit or something, like, going at all times.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, chunks of ham. You wouldn't. I mean, obviously you're being silly when you say a whole roasted pig, but if we got a roasted pig and we hacked off chunks of it and we threw it in the basket, that would fill 15 baskets.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's nice.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, and then whoever's been on the show, whether it's Idris Elba or former mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, they leave with a chunk of roasted Hawaiian suckling pig.

[Eduardo Perez]

That sounds like a snack basket for dogs. Should we just take it to a shelter?

[Conan O'Brien]

No. I mean, again, you're doing your quips and your jokearoos. That's your generation. No. And you're entitled to those. But I think I was making a real point, which is that protein would be a good idea. Yes.

[Eduardo Perez]

Protein.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes. And lean it to a micro. We'll get to your own mic at some point, if we can afford it.

[Tanisha]

Just one Thought is, you know, we have this big platform. It would be good to have our own products to push. So you know what?

[Conan O'Brien]

God damn, Adam. Yes.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh, no, no, Brian.

[Adam Sachs]

Mushroom jerky.

[Eduardo Perez]

Can I just say, that's why we pay him the big bucks.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I'm saying. No, he actually doesn't. His money's all from skimming. He took.

[Adam Sachs]

He doesn't even work here.

[Conan O'Brien]

He doesn't work here. He hasn't worked here in years. We don't know what he's doing here. But he drives a Bentley.

[Eduardo Perez]

Ooh, Bentley. That's a good idea for this.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no, but what do we do? What do we do? We should have a snack that has the Conan o' Brien name and which represents what I represent. A sweetness, a lightness, something.

[Adam Sachs]

I think it's more acidy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. Acidic.

[Sona Movsesian]

I don't know why. I thought of tempura and I don't know why. I think it's. Cause it starts off really hard and then it softens when it's in the package longer. So maybe your softened tempura snack.

[Conan O'Brien]

Something. We've gotta get a snack that has. I wanna stand behind a food product and I want to have a big piece of it so that I never work again. And I think there's a lot of people out there listening that would love it if I just stopped talking and just shut the fuck up. So if I had a food product that was a big seller, it's like Newman's Own, I'm Gone. That goes to charity, right?

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah. There's the obvious choice that was the.

[Conan O'Brien]

Flaw with Newman's Own.

[Sona Movsesian]

The obvious choice is, like Conan's potatoes.

[Adam Sachs]

Beet chips, or like a little individually wrapped carrot cake, you know?

[Sona Movsesian]

You think a carrot cake, I don't.

[Eduardo Perez]

Know what comes to my mind is not so much a snack, but just maybe more of like a kazoo. Like if I was to, like, I think, boil you down to one product.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I think it's possible to make a snack that also makes a sound. It should be a snack that makes a sound. And if there was a snack that you could blow into and it made a sound, but it had a little bit of protein. You can add protein to anything. Protein powder. So I mean, they used to make little candy whistles. Yeah, a candy whistle. What's that, like pop rocks? Like pop rocks. You put them in your mouth or.

[Matt Gourley]

You just take, you know, like one of those beef sticks and hollow it out.

[Conan O'Brien]

So it's a flute, like a beef? Yeah, a meat flute.

[Matt Gourley]

A meat flute. Conan's Meat Flute.

[Conan O'Brien]

Conan's Meat Flute.

[Matt Gourley]

Should I not not have said that?

[Conan O'Brien]

I think you did. And we're gonna have to go forward with it. I think it's Conan's Meat Flute. I'm sorry. It's Conan's Meat Flute.

[Adam Sachs]

Conan's only.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sorry.

[Adam Sachs]

Meat Flute. All proceeds go to him.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah, you can retire cheap.

[Conan O'Brien]

It is so. And my big smiling face. And my meat flute.

[Eduardo Perez]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're idiots, all of you. I thought I was the biggest idiot in the room.

[Adam Sachs]

We learned it by watching you, dad.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, well, watch for it soon. I doubt it's going to be at Whole Foods or Erewhon or any credible.

[Eduardo Perez]

It's exclusive to our snack basket.

[Sona Movsesian]

You don't think Meat flute.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what we're going to have to do? We're going to have to start our own supermarket chain because they're the only. This, like 711 won't take this.

[Sona Movsesian]

No.

[Conan O'Brien]

Gas stations. Independently owned gas stations won't take Conan's Meat Flute. But we're getting it out there. Conan's Meat Flute. Look for it. Not really. Cleared by the federal government. No. Maybe now. Yes.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Anyway, watch for it. Conan's Meat Flute. Coming soon to an alley near you.

[Adam Sachs]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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