Summer S’mores with Conan and the Chill Chums Season 5 Episode 6

Summary

Summary of "Summer S’mores with Conan and the Chill Chums"

Podcast: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend
Episode: Season 5, Episode 6
Date: August 28, 2025
Host: Conan O’Brien
Guests/Recurring Chums: Sona Movsesian, Matt Gourley, Eduardo Perez

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Episode Overview

This finale of the 2025 "Chill Chums: Summer S’mores" series brings Conan, Sona, Matt, and Eduardo together for an end-of-summer retrospective. The tone is playful, self-mocking, and full of the group’s signature banter as they revisit the best bits from the season: from back-yard cornhole competitions and dubious cocktails to tales of forgotten Renaissance weapons. With a focus on friendship, rivalry, and absurd storytelling, the group reflects on both the shenanigans and the camaraderie that define their summer get-togethers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflecting on the Series & Setting

• Conan's Expectations vs. Reality
  • Conan jokes about his small backyard—the “postage stamp” of a space behind his home—contrasted with his grand dreams of an “old Irish estate.”
    “Imagine my surprise when I’m led back to postage stamp. No, it’s tiny back there.” (02:24)
• The group jokes about the extensive and impressive-looking electrical conduit powering their modest recording setup, likening it to a “nuclear reactor” for such a small operation.

2. The Cornhole Rivalry

• Heated Competition: Conan and Matt recount their fierce match of cornhole, full of faux bravado and playful accusations of cheating and mind games.
  • Matt confesses how much he hates losing specifically to Conan:
    “I’m fine losing. I hate losing to you... You’ll bring it up like in three years” (05:37)
  • Conan channels Babe Ruth:
    “I think I did what Babe Ruth did. I called my shot. It was beanbag. It was cornhole.” (07:17)
  • Tensions cycle through faux humility, competitive jabs, and calling for a rematch.
  • Sona calls out Conan’s “nonexistent” sportsmanship:
    “What diminishes your victory is your sportsmanship.” (08:59)

3. Summer Highlights & Guest Appearances

• The gang reminisces about Dr. Arroyo, the not-really-a-doctor guest (his first name is “Doctor”), and his dubious medical advice.
  • “He’s such a terrible doctor.” – Conan (03:42)
• Sona’s mixology: Sona’s makeshift cocktails are described by Conan as the work of a mad scientist.
  • Sona admits to “scaling back” her drinking, but had to “scramble” this year’s cocktail, leading to accidental drunken recipe-testing.
    “I truly got drunk the day before. And I couldn’t tell if what I had made is good or not. Because it tasted good. Because I was drunk.” (04:57)

4. Pop Culture Tangents & Movie Talk

• Rocky Movie Logic: Conan riffs on the implausibility of the later “Rocky” movies, wondering why Rocky ends up broke and working at an Italian restaurant rather than capitalizing on his fame.
  • “He’s the most celebrated figure... It would be like saying, ‘Did you hear what happened to Michael Jordan? He’s at a Dave and Buster's.’” (12:09)
• Cobra Stories: The conversation veers into nostalgia and inside-Hollywood stories about “Cobra,” Stallone’s 80s cop film, with amusing trivia from Sona and tales from Conan’s writer days.
  • “When you mentioned Cobra, I thought, wait a minute. I have a visceral memory of opening the box.” (22:28)
  • Sona springs this trivia: “Sylvester Stallone... was originally going to do Beverly Hills Cop, and he retooled it so much... they gave it to Eddie Murphy and he took his version. And that’s what Cobra is.” (24:03)

5. The Renaissance Weapon Saga

• Eduardo reveals he never unveiled his new medieval weapon purchased for this year’s gathering—a big, Renaissance-Faire axe—because of “too much tension.”
• Extended, hilarious examination of Eduardo’s growing “weapon corner” at home:
  • “I have a weapon corner that I just lean everything up against.” (21:37)
  • His cache includes swords, an axe, a flamethrower, spiked balls and chain, and a “Cobra wavy knife.”
  • Sona and Conan roast him for the practicality (or lack thereof) of these acquisitions, pondering the threats you could ward off with a pizza-slicing battle axe.

6. S'mores, Camping, and Product Banter

• The group’s familiar goofing merges discussion of new Hershey’s caramel bars, s’mores nostalgia, and faux camping bravado (camping in a restaurant parking lot).
  • “We’re very close to a restaurant. Oh, we’re in the parking lot of a very nice restaurant.” – Conan (15:02)
• Conan and Sona riff on camp chairs, coolers, and the over-enthusiastic promotion of sponsor products, blending jokes about “fan service” and podcast advertising with genuine enthusiasm about “summer memories.”

7. Themes of Friendship & “Chill Chum” Philosophy

• Conan closes by waxing poetic about how the joy of “Chill Chums” isn’t about place or grandeur but the spirit of gathering and playfulness.
  • “Chil Chums isn’t about a place. It’s about a state of mind.” (24:58)
• The group thanks their production team, emphasizing the sense of family—tempered with classic Team Coco sarcasm:
  • “We’re family here. And by family, I mean everyone's paid and doesn't like each other and makes fun of me behind my back, so. And in front of my face.” – Conan (26:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Competition & Smugness
  Matt: “I hate losing to you... You’ll bring it up like in three years.” (05:38)
  Conan (feigning humility): “I have no knowledge of who won that game.” (05:56)
  Sona: “What diminishes your victory is your sportsmanship.” (08:59)

• On Rocky’s Life After Fame
  Conan: “He’s the most celebrated figure... No, Michael Jordan signs one sneaker for, you know, the ghost of Steve Jobs and gets $150 million a pop... I don’t understand why Rocky’s working in that restaurant.” (12:09)

• On Eduardo’s Weapon Hoard
  Eduardo: “I have a weapon corner that I just lean everything up against.” (21:37)
  Conan: “Oh no, you should apologize.” (21:47)
  Eduardo: “I have a couple swords. I got this. I got a flamethrower.” (21:48)

• On What “Chill Chums” Really Means
  Conan: “Chil Chums isn’t about a place. It’s about a state of mind... a special bond... a tie in for various companies you want to advertise. I’m told it’s something called fan service by Adam, who says it in a very cold voice. Fan service.” (24:58)

• On S’mores Excellence
  Conan: “This Hershey’s caramel is very good. Why didn’t they think of this before? I know if I was at Hershey’s, I’d be firing people for not thinking of this ten years ago.” (16:19)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Conan’s backyard size revelation: (02:12–02:24)
• Cornhole rivalry and sportsmanship debate: (05:25–09:04)
• Rocky movies discussion: (11:30–13:18)
• Eduardo’s “weapon corner” saga: (19:30–22:28)
• Cobra and Hollywood package story: (22:28–24:52)
• Friendship & closing reflections: (24:58–26:32)

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Tone & Style

• Highly playful, sardonic, and self-mocking
• Genuine warmth and shared affection beneath relentless ribbing
• Frequent pop-culture detours and absurd hypotheticals
• Classic “Team Coco” blend of nostalgia, hyperbole, and banter

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Bottom Line

This episode delivers the best of what “Summer S’mores with Conan and the Chill Chums” is all about: competitive pettiness, nostalgic storytelling, weapon-hoarding confessions, and a goofy yet heartfelt meditation on the enduring joys of friendship (and s’mores). If you love Conan’s mix of self-parody, nerdy tangents, and behind-the-scenes camaraderie, this grand finale hits the sweet spot.

Closing Words:
Conan: “I hope you had a great summer and we’ll see you soon.” (26:41)
Sona: “Rematch 2026: Free Sona!” (26:49)

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Matt Gourley]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam of Session]

None that I can think of.

[Matt Gourley]

There's nothing.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam of Session]

Summer S' Mores with Conan and the Chill Chums. A six part series with Conan o', Brien, Sonam of Session and Matt Gourley. Let's get started.

[Conan O'Brien]

Welcome to the final installment of the 2025 Chill Chums with Conan and the Goo Goo Gang. I'm talking summer s', mores, weekend chores. We had a great time. I mean, looking back on everything that happened, what a panoply of fun, don't you think?

[Sonam of Session]

Wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. I mean, from the moment I started to get very negative about the conduits. Oh my God. That really. I mean, that was a hell of.

[Sonam of Session]

A way to kick it off.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

I was shocked by the amount of electrical wiring that I saw on the back of our, by the way, very small yard.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah, we should talk about it more.

[Conan O'Brien]

Can I say something? I was envisioning it being much bigger, I thought. Cause I. Maybe it goes back to my Irish roots. But I thought it's going to be like, ah, it's the old.

[Matt Gourley]

It's the old estate.

[Conan O'Brien]

And so imagine my surprise when I'm led back to postage stamp. No, it's tiny back there.

[Matt Gourley]

It is small.

[Sonam of Session]

It's quaint.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, it's a little small, little space.

[Sonam of Session]

But do you feel different about that conduit now? That you see that? It's on the other side of that wall, and it's powering all of this majesty.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

It just makes me wonder why more amazing stuff isn't happening in here. Oh, because Looks like. It looks like a nuclear reactor. I mean, the amount of conduit back there looks like something incredible is happening in here, and it's just three schlubs talking. I mean, I'm sorry, but you know what I mean, there's no 3D adventure here where we're, like, floating. Go ahead. So we can tame Sona's voice. Exactly.

[Matt Gourley]

Yes, Eduardo.

[Sonam of Session]

Well, there you go.

[Conan O'Brien]

What the. Jesus. More. We need more conduit. There was some real.

[Matt Gourley]

We had some good times.

[Conan O'Brien]

There was some real highlights. I mean, first of all, Dr. Arroyo showing up.

[Sonam of Session]

Oh, man.

[Conan O'Brien]

And, you know, you always hope for a guest star, someone big, and I don't. I can't imagine. First of all, I don't know how we got him to get Dr. Arroyo.

[Sonam of Session]

I think it's easy to get him. We're just lucky to have him.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sonam of Session]

Wow. God, it's always better.

[Conan O'Brien]

He's such a. He's a. He's great. He's great. He's such a terrible doctor.

[Sonam of Session]

And we learned that he's not actually a doctor, it's just. His first name is Doctor.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sonam of Session]

Doctor o'. Roy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. He's fantastic. And he says a lot about what's happened in the medical profession the last couple of years. It was great having him. Your cocktail was fantastic. Yeah, it was fantastic. I have to say, you've outdone yourself. And to watch you craft these cocktails, I mean, it is like watching a mad scientist at work on his greatest formula. Gordon. Yeah? How long ago did you start learning that you could make a cocktail?

[Sonam of Session]

Not too long ago, I think, when Covid hit and I was depressed, you know, so.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, it helps. Depression, alcohol. Yeah, we've all learned that. So. And. And are you already thinking about what the cocktail will be next year? No. I bet you've had thoughts already. You seem like the kind of guy that'd be like, hmm, next year, a little more Negroni. The Coney Negroni.

[Sonam of Session]

Oh, well, got it right.

[Matt Gourley]

Coney Negroni.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Writing it on a piece of paper that will soon be thrown away.

[Sonam of Session]

That's true. No, like you, I've been kind of scaling back my drinking, so I haven't thought about it. In fact, I planned this one the day before, and I had to scramble to do it, and I had two different versions, and I was tasting Them. And I truly got drunk the day before. And I couldn't tell if what I had made is good or not. Because it tasted good. Because I was drunk.

[Matt Gourley]

It was good. Yeah, I can tell you it was good.

[Conan O'Brien]

But you were drunk, too.

[Matt Gourley]

I was? Yes, I was. I got drunk pretty quickly on this one. Chuggy, chuggy, chug, chug.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, let's talk cornhole. I mean, no, let's not talk cornhole. Cornhole.

[Sonam of Session]

I'd rather talk about conduit.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, well, sh. You got really mad. Why? Why are you so. You want to know?

[Matt Gourley]

First of all, I am naturally competitive. I'm fine losing. I hate losing to you. I think it's. Yes, I do. I hate losing to you. You get smug. You will bring it up. Like in three years, you'll bring like.

[Conan O'Brien]

You'll bring it up. I forgotten I even won until I brought it up.

[Matt Gourley]

I can see it on your face.

[Conan O'Brien]

You can't see anything.

[Matt Gourley]

Yes, I can.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have no knowledge of who won that game. At this moment, I forgot. Oh, okay.

[Sonam of Session]

Then Sona won.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, then I'm happy for you.

[Matt Gourley]

No, don't do that.

[Conan O'Brien]

I am.

[Matt Gourley]

Don't do that.

[Conan O'Brien]

If you won, I'm very happy for you. I don't remember. I honestly don't remember who won. These things aren't important to me.

[Matt Gourley]

Exactly what to do to, like, annoy me. You know exactly what to do. You. I. I don't want to talk about that game.

[Conan O'Brien]

If you told me I won, then I'm happy.

[Sonam of Session]

That taste of his own medicine. Be nonchalant about it. Harness your chill.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm angry. Yeah. I'm so angry.

[Sonam of Session]

Okay, this is what he wants you to do.

[Matt Gourley]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, but what? Did you go home and relate your lost attack?

[Matt Gourley]

Of course I did.

[Conan O'Brien]

And what'd you tell him?

[Matt Gourley]

I said. I said. I said you cheated.

[Conan O'Brien]

What?

[Matt Gourley]

I lied.

[Conan O'Brien]

You cheated. Cornhole. You put a magnet in the bag.

[Sonam of Session]

Psychological warfare.

[Matt Gourley]

You did. I think that what really was upsetting to me was that I started off very strong. I know. It happened. I shifted the side I was throwing from. I think about it all the time since it happened.

[Conan O'Brien]

You really thought about this?

[Matt Gourley]

I have. I. I started throwing from where you were throwing, and then I shifted to the other side and that was my end.

[Conan O'Brien]

Your mistake was you were throwing. I was tossing. Tossing is the better way to go.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what I think? I think what made my win impressive. It's coming back to me now. And what a victory it was. What made it so impressive was. And you Will back me up on this.

[Sonam of Session]

I will not. Whatever it is.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. I called it. I called it in. Great. Eduardo. You were a fan of this because I announced when I was deep, deep in the hole, way behind, I said, here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna get way behind, but then I'm gonna come surging back, and I'm going to win at the last minute, which is exactly what happened. And it reminds me of a tale that. From baseball that might be one of baseball's greatest moments. Babe Ruth called a shot. You know, the old famous called shot. Not the same Babe. Ruth pointed with his bat to center field and then proceeded to hit a home run there. And there's no photograph of it, but there's paintings of it, sketches of it. People have memorialized this. This is one of the greatest moments in American sports history. I think I did what Babe Ruth did. I called my shot. It was beanbag. It was cornhole. Maybe not as grand how.

[Matt Gourley]

You know what Pixar. It didn't happen. If it. If it happened, someone should have taken a picture.

[Eduardo Perez]

Shut the fuck up.

[Sonam of Session]

I'm just trying to help you see.

[Matt Gourley]

What did you say? I'm talking about the baby moment.

[Sonam of Session]

Sorry.

[Eduardo Perez]

Okay.

[Matt Gourley]

The baby moment. It's been, like, memorialized in paintings. Conveniently, there's no photo of it, but.

[Conan O'Brien]

We have video of me destroying you.

[Matt Gourley]

It's not destroying. You didn't destroy me. I think. I think the thing is I lost focus.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're trying to be a hype man.

[Eduardo Perez]

You didn't do.

[Matt Gourley]

I lost focus. I really do hate losing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, that's how people lose in sports. That's called losing.

[Matt Gourley]

This is why I hate it. This is the thing, though. You. You act, you.

[Conan O'Brien]

I could have won, but I lost focus.

[Matt Gourley]

You.

[Conan O'Brien]

Where's my lost focus medal?

[Sonam of Session]

You know what diminishes your victory is your sportsmanship.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Sonam of Session]

It's nonexistent.

[Matt Gourley]

You act like you don't care, but you really want to win.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, of course I do.

[Matt Gourley]

Okay. All right.

[Conan O'Brien]

And also, I think the listener, the fan, when I'm putting on a show with my bragarosho, they want to see me pull it out. Do you know they want to.

[Sonam of Session]

I disagree.

[Conan O'Brien]

No, no.

[Sonam of Session]

I think at least Sona owns her desire to win. And this affectation of you saying, I could take it or leave it, I'm just coasting above it all. Above the frayed. It's. It's. I'm not buying it.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm not buying it either, because I know. I know you and I know how. How, like, happy you were that you won. And it's just upsets me that I brought you a level of happiness, different person.

[Sonam of Session]

After you won, even after the recording, you were like talking to the trash cans at one point.

[Conan O'Brien]

Don't you see that? You see that? I. I have so much else in my life and my friendship with Timothy Oliphant.

[Matt Gourley]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have. You know, we're pals.

[Sonam of Session]

I have my imaginary friendship with Timothy Oliphant.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know, I have my accomplishments. And so I didn't need. That's the great thing is I didn't need that cornhole win. But when it happened, I felt like I had risen to another level. You know, I hate this. We need a rematch. Yes.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm down for a rematch.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah.

[Eduardo Perez]

The phrase sore winner comes to mind.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah. But also very sore loser. And I think that that's what I'm saying is I'm. I'm down for a rematch, and I'm going to. I'm going to train.

[Sonam of Session]

Yes. Train.

[Matt Gourley]

I'm going to rock it up. You're my Apollo Creed. You're Drago.

[Sonam of Session]

Ivan Drago.

[Matt Gourley]

Ivan Drago. You're that guy. I'm the good guy. You're the bad guy. You're the bad guy.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah.

[Matt Gourley]

You're the Soviet. I'm a fuck you up.

[Conan O'Brien]

There you.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah, there you go, Mickey.

[Eduardo Perez]

Rock.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think in a world where Putin is in charge in Russia, maybe there's a yearning for the old, good old days of Drago.

[Sonam of Session]

Maybe Drago's a villain.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Drago's now the good guy. Because they're like, you know, oh, my God, Drago you could deal with. Do you know what I mean? There's not one scene where Drago invades the Ukraine, you know, and tries to take territory that isn't his.

[Sonam of Session]

We have to do this. And there's a training montage where you have all the technology and all the systems.

[Conan O'Brien]

My wrist is being injected with various chemicals.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And Russian scientists are monitoring.

[Sonam of Session]

Have actual dried beans in a sack, and you're just flexing with it in a meat locker.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hey, can I go off on a tangent here for a second? He said knowing he could. Why is it. This always amazed me that if you watch all the Rocky movies, as I have in the arc, unlike the 15th Rocky film, he loses all his money. Okay. And his only choice is to be the greeter in a small Italian restaurant in the old neighborhood. He lives in the apartment that he's in in the first movie. And there's no acknowledgement Ever. That he is the greatest sports figure he could be.

[Sonam of Session]

A convention signing autograph.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, he could. Without even leaving his house. If he just answered his phone, he'd get paid a hundred because he single handedly brought down the Berlin Wall. You know, he. He's won, he's had come from behind victories. He's the most celebrated in that universe. He's the most celebrated figure. He's done the most incredible things. It would be like saying if. Well, geez, did you hear what happened? No. Michael Jordan, I guess he had a crooked business manager and all the money's gone. Where is he now? He's at a Dave and Buster's. He's over by the bin of balls and he's, you know. Yeah. And he's telling the kids, like, take it easy. You can't jump in till that one comes out. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. No, no. Michael Jordan signs one sneaker for, you know, the ghost of Steve jobs and gets $150 million a pop. So am I wrong? I'm sorry. I'm taking away from some of the magic of what was a wonderful time. I'm shifting the focus to a new one, which is, I don't understand why Rocky's working in that restaurant.

[Sonam of Session]

Do you remember he was also living with a robot in one of the movies?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, I remember that. With B.

[Sonam of Session]

No, that's Twiggy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. Is that from Buck Rogers?

[Eduardo Perez]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Voiced by Mel Blanc. There you go. It's just Mel Blanc. He's not Beurre Blanc. I'm so. You went Mel Blanc.

[Matt Gourley]

My God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, my God. What pairs well.

[Sonam of Session]

Oh, do you remember also in the summer s'. Mores. I forgot about the trivia.

[Conan O'Brien]

What pairs well? What pairs well with the fish? I would try the Mel Blanc. Who's the voice of Bugs Bunny?

[Sonam of Session]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Sonam of Session]

Oh, my God, you're such a fucking tw.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hey, look, I'm Data from Star Trek. It's shorty. It's campfire season and L.L. bean is helping people of all ages get outside. You know, I gotta tell you, when I'm outside, I'm a happy guy.

[Sonam of Session]

Me too.

[Matt Gourley]

I love it.

[Conan O'Brien]

A night around the campfire is nothing without versatile gear. You gotta have versatile gear.

[Sonam of Session]

You do.

[Conan O'Brien]

And you know L.L. bean, easy comfort camp chair Max designed with a wider, deeper and taller seat for maximum comfort. I need that taller seat.

[Sonam of Session]

You do, you do.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Matt Gourley]

I'm gonna say 3612 ounce cans.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what? You're not wrong.

[Sonam of Session]

And I'm gonna guess it'd be cold for up to 50 hours with ice.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

You guys think you're joking around. You both nailed it. When I'm out there camping with my buddies, I'm out there with Rodman and Greg Daniels and Rob Lzebnik, and we're just.

[Matt Gourley]

You guys are just roughing it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. We're very close to a restaurant. Oh, we're in the parking lot of a very nice restaurant. But we've got our L.L. bean stuff. We've got, you know, I've got my adventure tote cooler, my L.L. bean Easy Comfort camp chair. Max. It's just good times. Good times for everybody. So for the best outdoor products and to save 10% on your order, visit llbean.comconan outside together since 1912. And now, a shout out to Hershey's. And a huge thanks to them for sponsoring summer s'. Mores. I was very psyched when I heard Hershey's was on board.

[Matt Gourley]

Same me too.

[Conan O'Brien]

Because I gotta tell ya, I've been eating Hershey's milk chocolate since I was a little kid.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam of Session]

Oh, my God. It's truly scrumptious.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sonam of Session]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Very good. It's very good. You know what? Why didn't they think of this before? I know if I was at Hershey's, I'd be firing people for not thinking of this ten years ago.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh.

[Conan O'Brien]

Anyway, try Hershey's milk chocolate with caramel today.

[Matt Gourley]

S'. More.

[Conan O'Brien]

More. Anyway, if you think I'm A monster in this final episode. That's what these chill chums do to me. They wind me up.

[Sonam of Session]

And now it's our fault.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah, it's our fault.

[Conan O'Brien]

And this is what's gonna be happening next year. This is the tip of the iceberg of the new Conan, because the Conan that comes to the next chill chumps is gonna be an absolute monster.

[Sonam of Session]

Are we gonna just do, like, Olympic Games? All these different games? Like Battle of the Network Stars?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes. Yes. Well, I'll run a race against Gabe Kaplan. But now, excuse me.

[Sonam of Session]

It's Gabe Kaplan.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, Gabe Kaplan. I'll have a Gabe Kaplan. And I'll have a. Pardon me.

[Sonam of Session]

Is that. Do you have any Gabe Kaplan?

[Conan O'Brien]

Do you have any Mel Blanc by.

[Sonam of Session]

Of course.

[Conan O'Brien]

But of course we do here at Cafe Mispronounce.

[Sonam of Session]

You know, can I say something?

[Conan O'Brien]

You. Of course you know, you can.

[Sonam of Session]

Way back in the first episode of this series, Blay, you teased something that we also did the year before, and I think it's important that we cover this. You got a new medieval Renaissance weapon.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You never brought that out.

[Eduardo Perez]

What happened?

[Conan O'Brien]

Did you bring it to the set and then never use it?

[Eduardo Perez]

I felt like there was a lot of tension between you and Sona, and we didn't need any more, like, any actual weapons on set.

[Conan O'Brien]

Did you just forget, though? I mean, it's unusual for you to bring a dorky weapon and not show it.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, my God, I can't wait for.

[Sonam of Session]

The war crimes trial where we all present our evidence.

[Conan O'Brien]

I just love it. Who drives home? I like this guy. Look at who drives home at the end of the night and looks in the backseat of their car and sees a broad axe and goes, darn it, I forgot to wield it.

[Eduardo Perez]

Why am I catching straight. Just shooting. Any point. He's just gonna. You didn't.

[Conan O'Brien]

You said you were gonna bring one weapons and you brought it but never brought it out.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah, well, there's a lot going on.

[Conan O'Brien]

What was that like when you got home and you're unpacking stuff?

[Sonam of Session]

Did you apologize and you have a.

[Conan O'Brien]

You have your cooler and you move it and there it is.

[Eduardo Perez]

That is kind of what happened. I was like, scythe from.

[Conan O'Brien]

From. From Sword of Gildard.

[Eduardo Perez]

I was unpacking my car. Yes. And I was like, oh, that's right. Like, yeah, this year.

[Conan O'Brien]

So what was it?

[Eduardo Perez]

I have it here this year.

[Conan O'Brien]

Of course you do.

[Matt Gourley]

You just have it.

[Eduardo Perez]

I left it at the office because just in case we needed it.

[Conan O'Brien]

So let's see it. What?

[Eduardo Perez]

Well, so this year, last Year I got a big sword. I was like, you know, a four foot. And I wanted something smaller because I didn't really use it at all in this past year because it was so big. It's not.

[Conan O'Brien]

Use the fantasy sword as much as you thought you would.

[Matt Gourley]

Why did you think you would use it? Why would you use it though?

[Eduardo Perez]

It's two handed. It's, you know, it's hard. It's an old thing to get out. It's like very big. So I didn't use it as much.

[Conan O'Brien]

As I wanted to do. What a sad to do list to do. Milk orange. Wield magical sword. Wield fake magical sword. I'm sad you didn't get in your box.

[Eduardo Perez]

Bucket list checked off. Anyway, anyway, so I wanted something kind of smaller and more useful. So I got a. I got this axe.

[Matt Gourley]

Oh my God.

[Eduardo Perez]

It's really sharp, so be careful of it.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's like an Irish musical instrument.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah, it's a big look like a Guinness heart.

[Eduardo Perez]

It's a big but. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. What now tell me what this is.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, it's a big. I don't really know. It's a. Just a really short.

[Conan O'Brien]

Where did you get it?

[Eduardo Perez]

I got the Renaissance fair. I went to the.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you went to a Renaissance fair?

[Eduardo Perez]

I dressed up.

[Matt Gourley]

What costume you were wearing.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah, I did. And, and, and this year I learned. I don't even know why I'm like.

[Conan O'Brien]

This time telling you this.

[Eduardo Perez]

I brought an empty holster because I. Last year I had to carry around the sword. It was really awkward.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you brought a holster for a sword you thought you might buy? That's right.

[Eduardo Perez]

So I can.

[Conan O'Brien]

Have a holster.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah, So I had an empty holster. So.

[Conan O'Brien]

And this fit, I think.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah. Well, no, I had a holster because I was like, oh, I'm gonna. I don't want to buy another big sword. I want to buy something smaller, like a dagger. But then I saw this baby and I was like, oh, this thing is incredible. Yeah. And I was, you know, also.

[Matt Gourley]

I will say.

[Eduardo Perez]

I will say. I will say.

[Conan O'Brien]

No one's interrupting you. You're pausing because you realize where you're going is sad.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yes, it is kind of sad.

[Conan O'Brien]

I will say. I will. Could someone please let me finish? We're letting you finish. I don't want to say it.

[Eduardo Perez]

Well, I could. I was thinking after I bought, I could use that to cut a pizza. Well, I'm just saying because, you know, you could also have a lot of.

[Sonam of Session]

A pizza cutter.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Eduardo Perez]

It doesn't have a lot of practical applications and I was Just saying.

[Matt Gourley]

No, it doesn't.

[Eduardo Perez]

I didn't really use my sword last year. And so I was like, well, I could. I'll be able to. That would be pretty badass if you.

[Sonam of Session]

Had a dinner party, you brought a.

[Eduardo Perez]

Pizza out, and you just went, yeah, thank you. There we go.

[Matt Gourley]

I don't know if badass is the word.

[Conan O'Brien]

I am Zygar. I shall turn this pie into six slices. You're making my case for me, so.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yeah. So I got heavy.

[Conan O'Brien]

You finally got to show it. That's great.

[Eduardo Perez]

Thanks. Thank you for letting me show it off.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I didn't let you, and I didn't know you had it in the room. I thought we were just going to talk about it. Of course you have it. Where do you keep all this shit? In your house? I imagine it's not a huge apartment.

[Eduardo Perez]

It's not, actually. Do you want to know the truth?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I asked you, so I'm respecting the truth. I have.

[Matt Gourley]

This is.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, man, this is so sad. And. Well, I think it's cool. I have a weapon corner that I just lean everything up against.

[Sonam of Session]

You own it. Go for it. Don't apologize.

[Eduardo Perez]

Okay. Yes, I have a weapon corner.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, no, you should apologize.

[Eduardo Perez]

Yes, I have a couple. I have a couple swords. I got this. I got a flamethrower. I got.

[Conan O'Brien]

Do you really have a flamethrower?

[Eduardo Perez]

I do. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're an.

[Sonam of Session]

Why do you have. What kind of.

[Eduardo Perez]

One of my friends gave it to me. We had a thing where he gave each other weapons. And then I have one of the. I have spiked balls and chain.

[Sonam of Session]

Amazing.

[Eduardo Perez]

I got the amazing. No, a mace, I think is like a club. I think that's like a morning star or something. But. But that.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then I also have a Losing listeners right now knife.

[Eduardo Perez]

I think it's from Cobra or from another movie. It's like. It's like a big, crazy, wavy cobra. Wavy.

[Sonam of Session]

That the villain has.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Eduardo Perez]

Wavy knife. And then it's got a spiked.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah.

[Eduardo Perez]

Handle. Yeah. So I got. I got all that stuff. It's just kind of just in one corner.

[Conan O'Brien]

Throwback. When Greg Daniels and I were writing together on our first TV show, Not Necessarily the News, we went to our offices. We were working there for, like, three days at Sunset Gower Studios. This is 1985. When this package arrived that they sent back to our office, and we used to get, like, weird promotional things. And I guess for some reason, because we were a TV show, we got a promotional package. They thought maybe we would mention it. And here I am mentioning it. Seventy years later, it worked. Oh, my God. And it was a promotional package from Cobra, the movie Cobra.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

And it was all these pictures and, like, a couple of memorabilia little thingies from the movie Cobra. We were just looking at it, and it was like, this is gonna be Sylvester Stallone's next franchise. He plays. What's his name?

[Sonam of Session]

Marion Cobretti.

[Conan O'Brien]

Marion Cobrett. Like his name. You know, you have to. You have to justify. This is a sting operation and he.

[Sonam of Session]

Cuts pizza with scissors.

[Conan O'Brien]

But no. And it was. And then Greg and I went and we decided we got to go see Cobra.

[Sonam of Session]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I don't know if you remember, but it's. I know.

[Eduardo Perez]

Do you.

[Conan O'Brien]

He was a producer on it. He was three years old.

[Sonam of Session]

Do you know the story that.

[Conan O'Brien]

But you know what's crazy? It's Cobra against a cult. And it's people from all walks of life who meet business people. Yeah, business people and bakers and. And people that sell orthot all meet in a basement and clang weapons together in spotlights. In spotlights.

[Sonam of Session]

Chains and.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sonam of Session]

Do you know the story of that is that Sylvester Stallone was originally going to do Beverly Hills Cop and he retooled it so much that they eventually went, no, you can't. You can't do this anymore. They gave it to Eddie Murphy and he took his version. And that's what Cobra is.

[Eduardo Perez]

Oh, yeah.

[Sonam of Session]

And that's Matt's movie corner. I have more fun facts. And if you could just open up a corner of your apartment for me.

[Eduardo Perez]

Dude.

[Conan O'Brien]

But anyway, that was my. When you mentioned Cobra, I thought, wait a minute. I have a visceral memory of opening the box. What was in it? Oh, a lot of photographs from the set and a press packet of who Marion Cobretti was and what his character is. And then there might have been like a plastic knife in there or something, I don't know. But I remember Greg and I thinking, wow, I guess this is gonna be the new thing, you know, Cobra and. Nope, it wasn't.

[Matt Gourley]

No.

[Sonam of Session]

Too bad, though, huh? We missed that one.

[Matt Gourley]

Is it too bad?

[Sonam of Session]

God, I love movies.

[Matt Gourley]

You do? Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

All right, so anyway, we got off on a tangent, and I have to bring it home, which is. Chil Chums isn't about a place. It's about a state of mind. And it isn't about whether it's in the yard. It isn't about whether it's anywhere in the Los Angeles area or if it's on a private island. It's not about that. It's whenever we get together and we decide to be chill chums and get the old s' mores out, it creates a special magic. It's a special bond. It's a tie in for various companies you want to advertise. I'm told it's something called fan service by Adam, who says it in a very cold voice. Fan service.

[Eduardo Perez]

It's true.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Fan service. So it was a joy. It was a real joy. And I want to thank you both. I had a great experience.

[Matt Gourley]

Me too.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I loved it. It's a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to it to next year when we do it all again. Who knows where and who knows why?

[Sonam of Session]

And all the people that helped with this, too. And two of the big ones are in this room, too, because Blade does so much work.

[Conan O'Brien]

Blade does a lot. I mean, Tanisha works hard. Work hard.

[Sonam of Session]

He engineers the whole thing.

[Conan O'Brien]

Leonardo.

[Eduardo Perez]

Dr. Arroyo.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you, Dr. Arroyo. Definitely. Ruthie. But also, I mean, Ruthie, Sam, Rachel. Yeah. I mean, all these people work so hard. They do a great job. We love them.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

We're family here. And by family, I mean everyone's paid and doesn't like each other and makes fun of me behind my back, so. And in front of my face. This was really nice. It was really fun. So I hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed doing it.

[Matt Gourley]

I love Chill chums.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow. You really. You thought for a long time and you came up with a great ender. Thank you, Sona.

[Matt Gourley]

I love summer s'. Mores.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, that's. That's good. Okay, Sona. Well, from all of us to all of you, thank you very much. I hope you had a great summer and we'll see you soon.

[Sonam of Session]

Rematch 2026 free Sona.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Sonam of Session]

Summer S' mores with Conan O' Brien, Sonam of Session and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and Nick Leow. Theme song by the White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair and our associate talent producer is Jennifer. Samples, engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Bautista and Brit Kahn. You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts and you might find your review read on a future episode. Got a question for Conan? Call the Team Coco hotline at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It too could be featured on a future episode. You can also get three free months of SiriusXM when you sign [e-mail] Conan and if you haven't already, please subscribe to Conan O' Brien needs a Friend. Wherever fine podcasts are downloaded.