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Sona Movsesian
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Matt Gourley
Hi, Coco. Welcome to Conan O' Brien needs a fan.
Conan O'Brien
Hello, Coco.
Coco T. Bear
Hi, Coco. Nice to see you.
Conan O'Brien
Your name is, I'm told your name is Coco T. Bear.
Coco T. Bear
Is that correct that you nailed it? Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And there's a lot to ask you right away because I'm looking at his zoom and I'm being presented with an incredible image of all kinds of stuff. There's all kinds of stuff next to you, Coco Tea Bear. And I encourage people to maybe go online, check out just see what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a large gong. I'm seeing what looks to be a bunch of instruments and beads.
Coco T. Bear
Chimes.
Conan O'Brien
Beads. You are wrapped in various very multi patterned robes.
Coco T. Bear
Yep.
Conan O'Brien
You look like a religious figure. Coco T. Bear, are you a religious figure?
Coco T. Bear
No.
Conan O'Brien
Well, that's it for our interview.
Coco T. Bear
All right, nice to see you.
Conan O'Brien
No, no. Tell us what's going on co Coty Bear. Because I can't figure it out by just looking.
Coco T. Bear
I do, I do refer to myself as a sonic shaman. Sonic a shaman being someone who teaches you what they know. And what I know is sound and how sound can not only help us connect to each other, but also release the we go through in our day to day life.
Conan O'Brien
That's interesting.
Coco T. Bear
And I like to use instruments that Are easy to. Like a piano has a lot of notes that are not good to play. And like a guitar, you can hit a lot of wrong notes.
Conan O'Brien
Sure.
Coco T. Bear
But none of my instruments have any wrong notes.
Conan O'Brien
Like, it's just, ooh, that's nice. Ooh, that's nice. I just.
Coco T. Bear
I found these instruments that I loved hearing, feeling, and then I was like, I want to play those instruments. So forget the viola.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah. Listen, you're talking to a guy that said forget the viola in the 1960s. Yeah. Coco tea Bear. I'm using. Do you prefer that I call you Coco or Coco Tea Bear?
Coco T. Bear
To hear Coco o' Brien say the full thing is like, really nice. But you can just.
Conan O'Brien
Coco Tea Bear. Coco Tea Bear. You are a sonic shaman. Yeah, let's say. And this is something that you do professionally.
Coco T. Bear
People do pay me for this. Yes, I insist on it.
Conan O'Brien
So I think that's. Get the cash up front, I would say. Yeah, yeah.
Coco T. Bear
Venmo's.
Conan O'Brien
Let's say. Where are you right now in the world?
Coco T. Bear
In the world? I am in a place of love. I am in the foothills of the Smoky Mountains in East Tennessee.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, you're in East Tennessee. Okay.
Sona Movsesian
That's so co going to say Dolly territory.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
My license plate has Dolly Parton on it.
Conan O'Brien
Wow, that's very cool. What? And so does Dolly Parton. You guys must be running into each other all the time. Whenever you get a parking ticket, she has to pay it.
Coco T. Bear
Nice little scam.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, exactly. You're a sonic shaman. You're in eastern Tennessee. Do individual people visit you for a session? What is it called? A session. What are they visiting you for?
Coco T. Bear
I mean, different things, but the most common is sound bath.
Conan O'Brien
You might have heard sound bath. I've heard of sound.
Coco T. Bear
Los Angeles. Yeah, that's that. But I'll also sometimes use osteophonic tuning forks or bone vibrating tuning forks. So they're very quiet. But when you put them near somebody.
Conan O'Brien
Do you ever put that near the. You know, there's a little bone. The mastoid process. Do you've ever put it on the mastoid process?
Coco T. Bear
So I. Yeah, oftentimes I love to play it. So that's the whole point. The bone vibration, you can actually press it against the skeletal structure and let your body share that vibration with it.
Matt Gourley
Why the mastoid process? What does that do?
Conan O'Brien
I'm glad you asked.
Coco T. Bear
What's up with that?
Conan O'Brien
Well, I bet I've always thought that that was a good place. It's very susceptible because it's so close to the Ear. And the ear canal. It's that, that right behind the ear, of course, the mastoid process. I didn't know that would be a great susceptible place to feel vibrations. I apologize for my ignorant friends, Coco Tea Bear, but not necessary.
Matt Gourley
We don't require.
Coco T. Bear
Not all of our fathers can be doctors.
Sona Movsesian
Wait, are we high when we're doing this?
Conan O'Brien
I'm sorry, you seem high now. Yes, Coco T. Bear, that's a very good question. How many people are high or on some kind of high when they're having a sound bath?
Coco T. Bear
I do like to know when people are high. You don't need to be high.
Conan O'Brien
But.
Coco T. Bear
I would say 15 of the time people are already on another substance when they come to a sound bath. I used to do an event at a petite hermitage over there in West Hollywood called the Highest Hour. And they would have a sound bather come and a different dispensary would come and bring a special product. So I met a fella who, he was 55 years old, first time he had ever smoked weed and then had a sound bath head. So.
Conan O'Brien
What? So a sound bath, how long does a sound bath last for? You're creating different sounds in the sound bath. And, and, and how many people? You could have 10, 15 people having a sound bath together.
Coco T. Bear
Yes, I've had, I've had an event up to 55 folks. But yeah, usually it's in that 4 to 20 range somewhere.
Conan O'Brien
4 to 20 range. And yeah, they're having a sound bath together. You're creating the sounds. They're silent, Is that correct?
Coco T. Bear
They are silent. Except for every now and then I call snoring, the standing ovation to a sound dealer. So every now and then people are, people are breathing. You know, there are other sounds and people are rustling. And I just like to remind them that during that space, that sacred space we've created together, all sounds are meant to be.
Conan O'Brien
What if someone's chewing gum?
Coco T. Bear
Oh, I mean, they're there for a reason. You know, we're here to get annoyed sometimes.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, so that's part of the sound bath. It's. Hey, man, this is what's happening.
Coco T. Bear
Yeah, this is what's happening right now. What's it doing to you right now?
Matt Gourley
Could you think, could you do a sound bath without doing bits? For how long do sound baths last?
Coco T. Bear
You ask me? Up to an hour, hour and a half? I've done 12 hour sound baths.
Conan O'Brien
Okay, that's a good question. I have, because I do. I did a lot of bits. I'm a nuclear bits machine. Ooh. Yeah. No, I am a nuclear reactor just firing out bits at the speed of sound. So that would be a problem, Right. Because I have a very active mind and a very active mouth. I don't know that I'm the right candidate for a sound bath. What would you do? If I was sitting there in your class of 24 people, what would you do? Sam, Beth, pass the soap.
Coco T. Bear
You know, someone who's been in one of my classes, even Kevin Nealon can take this serious. Oh, I'm kidding.
Conan O'Brien
Kevin Nealon did the sound bath?
Coco T. Bear
If even Kevin can take this seriously, I think of all people, even Conan o' Brien might be able to.
Conan O'Brien
That's incredible. So can you spill the beans a little bit, Kevin? Did he come to you in Los Angeles, or did he come to Tennessee and do it?
Coco T. Bear
I used to work at a fancy resort here in East Tennessee, yeah. Oh, he loves a fancy resort. That's actually how I found out that his son can do the entirety of a airplane. He can just quote the whole thing. But, yeah, that was the first time we met. And then we've actually done a few in Nashville at a mutual friend's home.
Conan O'Brien
That's so fascinating.
Coco T. Bear
You know, I will say him and Susan.
Conan O'Brien
Susan, Lovely Susan. They are terrific people. And I adore Kevin. I think he may be soulless, but that's a different matter.
Coco T. Bear
But I've also been in sound baths where people could not help but make monkey noises and things like that. So I think there is a space.
Conan O'Brien
For people like you, because I'm gonna be making random noises. I'm going to be chattering, making little commentary. And so I don't know if that's gonna be disruptive to the other people in the sound bath.
Matt Gourley
Well, could we do an example of this where Coco T. Barry, you kind of begin a sound battle. Let's see how you handle it.
Conan O'Brien
I think that's a good idea. That's well produced, producer.
Matt Gourley
Thanks.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, man.
Coco T. Bear
Now I see why y' all brought Gorla in.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
So go ahead and inhale into your nose and exhale through the mouth. And as these sounds move through you, your mind might wander.
Sona Movsesian
Don't do that.
Coco T. Bear
Just bring your mind back with a breath in and out.
Conan O'Brien
Okay. That makes me feel a genie's here. I feel. I'm sorry, I can't. I. There's no way. I don't feel like a genie's here when I hear that sound.
Sona Movsesian
This with you, too.
Matt Gourley
Like I'm having a flashback.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, wow. Levitation. That feels like levitation. Just going to narrate these sounds.
Sona Movsesian
No, don't do it. Please don't narrate.
Conan O'Brien
Inhale, exhale. That's cool. Hope he gets that gong soon. Okay, now I feel like I'm getting a massage. Yeah, this is massage music.
Matt Gourley
Yeah, it does relax me.
Conan O'Brien
The.
Matt Gourley
The massage.
Conan O'Brien
That's beautiful. What a beautiful sound.
Sona Movsesian
I'm already closed. You guys aren't closing?
Conan O'Brien
Oh, no.
Matt Gourley
I want to see what he's doing.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, got my eyes closed. Oh, God, stop talking. My God, that's terrifying. Yeah, don't go down that hallway.
Coco T. Bear
Go down the hallway.
Matt Gourley
That's like the Blade Runner soundtrack.
Conan O'Brien
I mean, I am impressed. These are very cool sounds, but I.
Matt Gourley
Feel like we're gonna get a visit from La Llorona.
Conan O'Brien
I wish I knew what that meant.
Sona Movsesian
My God, you do need to shut up, Sona.
Matt Gourley
We're trying to listen, so you're the.
Conan O'Brien
Only one that's high, so come on. That sounds like cheering. I love that sound. That's the Chicago theater. That's me at the Chicago theater. That's me at the Elgin theater in Toronto. Oh, my God. I was killing at that theater. I've never. Wait, where did the cheer. Where'd the cheering go? Oh, I love.
Matt Gourley
Where did the cheering go?
Conan O'Brien
Doesn't that sound. That sounded like. I swear to God, that sounded like a crowd cheering, and I love that sound.
Sona Movsesian
This is like a Rorschach test, because I just heard, like, some.
Conan O'Brien
You heard cheering fajitas. I heard a cheering crowd in Chicago or Toronto. Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Matt Gourley
Isn't it stereo? It isn't stereo.
Conan O'Brien
What is that? What? What is. That's a giant disc that has.
Matt Gourley
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
That laugh, too. I love the laugh.
Sona Movsesian
I'm gonna buy one.
Conan O'Brien
Wait, you. Cheers and laughter.
Coco T. Bear
I'm.
Conan O'Brien
I swear to God, I love this.
Matt Gourley
I'm at El Torito.
Sona Movsesian
Sounds like rain to me.
Conan O'Brien
Who was the laugh?
Coco T. Bear
That was just me laughing.
Matt Gourley
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Oh. Oh. That was your laughing? Oh, my God.
Coco T. Bear
I enjoy the podcast, so this is just me having a great time.
Conan O'Brien
Would you ever. Oh, God. Oh, she's good at this. Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
I really want to do this without you two.
Conan O'Brien
I want to do a podcast without either one of you. I really.
Sona Movsesian
I really just want to.
Matt Gourley
I just want to be happy again in my life.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, my God.
Sona Movsesian
I just want to do something relaxing without the two of you chiming in. Two seconds.
Matt Gourley
You guys want to talk about James Bond or something?
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
Yes, I am.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
It's a whole family thing. All four of us are going and we're leaving Okie with my parents. And so I am thinking to make some extra cash on the side, I'm gonna put my place up on Airbnb.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I think you Airbnb it while you're out of town.
Sona Movsesian
Yep.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah, he loves Hawaiian shirts.
Conan O'Brien
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
That's true.
Conan O'Brien
You know what I mean?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
Okay?
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
Yeah, you know, I like to crack open that cooler and I pull open.
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Sona Movsesian
I open the.
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Sona Movsesian
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Yeah.
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Sona Movsesian
It does.
Conan O'Brien
And it sounds like it would work.
Matt Gourley
I'm a hard seller, this kind of thing. And I think you have such a good attitude with this. You don't seem too self serious and it seems very pleasing and.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, right.
Coco T. Bear
Yeah. When I found this, I was still using the phrase hippie dippy bullshit on a regular basis.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, yeah.
Coco T. Bear
I was quite a skeptic. And because there are a lot of goofballs to be nice about it. But if you just approach it as a musician. And I found a really great teacher. I was going to 3 to 5 of her sound baths a week in Los Angeles. Her name is Lauren Rose. Hi, Lauren. And she did a three month program where we actually went over like dynamic sound and what sound can do for the body. And we studied how vibrations affect you as a. On a cellular structure. And then on top of that, she was like, well, what are you trying? She didn't just say play these instruments. It was about feeling the energy in the room. I did improv in Chicago for seven years. So like I just kind of lean into that.
Conan O'Brien
That'd be fascinating to combine improv. Like if you didn't have a good. You're doing a scene, you sort of start to lose. Like I don't quite know where to go. Now I'm going to start using this gong and these maracas and switch over to sound bath. That would be a good way to get out of that scene.
Coco T. Bear
You know, there were some nights at IO that I wish I had a gong.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
100%.
Sona Movsesian
Can we hear the gong?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Can we hear the gong?
Coco T. Bear
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. Don't sona never apologize for asking what you.
Conan O'Brien
She should.
Coco T. Bear
Well, I mean.
Conan O'Brien
Oh. Oh, look, he's not banging it like I would.
Matt Gourley
It's like he's caressing it, fondling it. This is sort of sexual.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, I like what they're doing.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
I like what's happening.
Coco T. Bear
We're gonna give it a nice. Now that it's warmed up and we give her. Give her a roll.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Oh.
Sona Movsesian
I. I came.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, my God. You just. You what?
Matt Gourley
I was watching her.
Conan O'Brien
You just. God. So now.
Matt Gourley
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
So now. What would Tack say? What would your mom say?
Sona Movsesian
We gotta edit that out.
Conan O'Brien
No, we are not editing that out. That's it.
Coco T. Bear
I can't wait to tell my best friend that.
Conan O'Brien
That's incredible. Wow. Wow. I've never been with a woman when she orgasm. It's a first for me. I always thought it was like a yeti, just something you heard about but didn't exist. Incredible. Well, there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Proof that the female orgasm does exist at long last Dateline. Wow. Well, Coco T. Bear, you just got a killer. That was a high high, mom.
Matt Gourley
I'll hear what she's hearing.
Conan O'Brien
Wow. I'm a believer. I have to say. I'm a complete believer.
Sona Movsesian
I am too.
Conan O'Brien
And you know what? And knowing that Kevin Nealon and Susan did this, and I know Kevin's a bit of a seeker. He's looking. Cause clearly he hasn't found it, but he's looking for the answer. And I could see him doing this. This is fascinating.
Coco T. Bear
He also, like. So I. At one point, I was doing 10 of these a week at minimum. And so I had my own little southwest jokes, you know, things that always killed in the room. And then Kevin laughed at a zero of them, and I was convinced he hated me.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
And then I realized that it's. It's buffoonery that he prefers.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. By last year. So thank you for that.
Coco T. Bear
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
He.
Coco T. Bear
Appreciate that.
Conan O'Brien
This is fascinating that there's. Are there any. I mean, I have a question for you. We make a podcast. We make a podcast here, and it's how you've come to us. Yeah. Yeah. On a sonic level. You as a sound shaman, what do you think of a sonic shaman? What do you think of the podcast? Just on a soothing sonic level. And be honest, Eduardo.
Coco T. Bear
I've told Eduardo this. He does a great job. If it wasn't for the levels on this show and the editing of the pops and the ums and the breaths that Matt does, this is a tight show. And I listen to very few Podcast. This is actually the first podcast I ever actually started listening to regularly.
Conan O'Brien
That's nice.
Coco T. Bear
I would get into pod. I would try to try one. It would sound terrible. There'd be echoes, and so I would just move on. And it made me actually regret not watching your show all those years.
Conan O'Brien
Thank you.
Coco T. Bear
Because you're so like, this is funny. This is great.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
And I had to go back and watch the things like FedEx.
Conan O'Brien
Pretty historic.
Coco T. Bear
Well, thank God they're saved on the Internet.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Let's move past the part where you're unaware of my work on television.
Matt Gourley
Wait, I just came.
Conan O'Brien
That was quick. That was a fast orgasm.
Sona Movsesian
Flute did it for you?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Oh, my God. The heart wants what the heart wants. You heard a second of a flute, and you came instantly and very quickly. Oh, there I came. Oh, there I came. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. Flute. Oh, there I came. Coco T. Bear. This is hilarious. And. And also I'm. I'm buying what you're selling. I really am.
Sona Movsesian
Do you ever come to Los Angeles?
Conan O'Brien
Can I see you?
Matt Gourley
You're a married woman.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I know. You ever come to Los Angeles? I mean, I do.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
I'd like to see you. We would like romantic.
Matt Gourley
Wait, can we do it next summer? Because we've already got Chilchums planned.
Conan O'Brien
But.
Matt Gourley
But in 2026, could we do a sound bath session with Coco Tibert for Chilchums?
Conan O'Brien
Who knows? It doesn't even have to be at Chilchums, but we'll find a slot. But I think there's a sound bath in our future because guess what? We all need a sound bath. You know, it's been a while, and I'm.
Coco T. Bear
I'm convinced they brought me here to chill you out.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. That's never. I mean it. I don't know if it's chilled me. They were like.
Coco T. Bear
But they were like, we're gonna do this after the Oscars. Okay. And then they were like, actually, we're gonna do this after the Mark Twain Awards.
Conan O'Brien
And I was like, oh, yeah.
Coco T. Bear
Yeah. There's been wait till things chill.
Conan O'Brien
We're always waiting for a time to. When my life isn't crazy and I don't feel like there's a gun in my mouth and it never comes. But I will say this.
Coco T. Bear
I just almost regret to say this, but, like, you have mentioned your own sound soothing that you do. It is unfortunately in the. The waste of time of others. But you like attention.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Coco T. Bear
And you noodling on a guitar is your own version of noodling on a guitar.
Conan O'Brien
And also I do a thing when people are talking sometimes where I go.
Matt Gourley
You'Re a little verbal.
Conan O'Brien
And I murderer, murderer, murderer. And I do that and I do it, try to do it in a way where the other person. Like if someone's driving me in an Uber and they're saying, oh, it's, you know, okay, we're gonna take a left turn. I go, oh, yeah. And I make little strange noises and they. I don't. They don't hear me, but they give me pleasure. You've been around with me when this is happening.
Sona Movsesian
Yes. And it's insane. That's why I don't think I want to do this sound bath with you. And I mean that in a loving way.
Matt Gourley
It's a very private and personal thing for you.
Coco T. Bear
I have done this for people's assistance. Aside from doing it for them. That's usually the case.
Matt Gourley
That's like the opposite for us of a sound bath. It's like a sound cesspool or something where we're subject to this sewage dumped on us.
Coco T. Bear
It's like the antithesis of a Goldblum growl.
Matt Gourley
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, I bet he'd be great in a sound bath.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, yes, he is a sound bath. So soothing. And he's so tactile. Coco T Bear, you're. You've risen in. In my. To the top. You've risen to the top. I. I want to have a sound bath. I want you to be my sonic shaman. And I think we're going to make this work out sometime in the future. Until then, amazing. Take care of yourself. And really so nice. So nice to get a chance to talk to you.
Matt Gourley
And can you play us out?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, play us out with something that.
Coco T. Bear
Can I. Can I first do two nerdy questions, though?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, sure.
Coco T. Bear
I mean, if it's. If it's a bother, don't worry.
Conan O'Brien
And you know, you didn't have to say nerdy. Just say two questions. Just say two questions. Okay.
Coco T. Bear
But they're. They're ultimately learned.
Conan O'Brien
Well, I knew that.
Coco T. Bear
Do you know of a, like a lesser known Civil War battlefield here in the south that I could go play my gong at? That maybe doesn't get as much of attention as like, Gettysburg.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, well, the south is just filled with battlefields and then. Yeah, so I, I'd have to look it up. I mean, I don't know my battles well enough to know, like, oh, right, eastern Tennessee. I know where you can go. But you know, why not go? You could get to Georgia pretty quickly. It's not A battlefield. But you could go to Andersonville, which is where prisoners of war were kept. And that might be a great place to heal because a lot of. There was a lot of suffering there. So you could go to. That's where Northern, you know, POWs were kept. So. And many of them died of dysentery. So you banging a gong in that field might bring them peace and relief.
Matt Gourley
Yeah. And if you're looking for a Star wars battlefield, I'd say this planet of scarif.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I'm not. Okay.
Coco T. Bear
Because, I mean, I know that stuff. But then this is Simpsons related. I was once actually told, hey, don't approach Matt Groening. And so I made sure to go and tell him how much I loved him as. As a figure, as a leader that sees himself as a Stalin esque leader. And then I saw you dance and sing at the Oscars. Your favorite episodes, you've said are the ones the musical and Mr. Burns episode. Have you ever thought of like a live action Mr. Burns Broadway play?
Conan O'Brien
Well, that would be intellectual property that I'd be stealing. I'd have to do that. So if the Simpsons develop something like that, I don't pretend they'd have to.
Coco T. Bear
Reach out to you. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And also I don't pretend to do the. I mean, yeah, I don't think that would be the best use of me in the musical format. I think fiddler on the roof is where I belong. It's about time an Irishman tackled that role. It went back in.
Coco T. Bear
All right, well, let's get that. Let's get a juice back in.
Conan O'Brien
Just picturing sperm. Go. Let's get back in, everybody. They pack up their suitcase. Oh, my God.
Matt Gourley
My daughter just disappeared.
Conan O'Brien
All right, Coco T Bear, we salute you. Take us out with some of your. Oh, wow. Yeah. You said these couldn't go out of tune, but that sounded very out of tune. Sorry, man. Well, I'm all nervous now. Oh, yeah, I know. Hard to perform on command. That was amazing. Thank you so much.
Coco T. Bear
My pleasure.
Conan O'Brien
Take care, Coco tea bear.
Sona Movsesian
I love you.
Coco T. Bear
I will if you do.
Conan O'Brien
Go in peace, man.
Coco T. Bear
Good to talk to y'.
Conan O'Brien
All.
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Release Date: July 10, 2025
Host/Author: Team Coco & Earwolf
In this episode of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend, Conan welcomes Coco T. Bear, a self-proclaimed "sonic shaman," to discuss the intriguing world of sound baths and the healing power of sound. The conversation delves into Coco's unique approach to sound therapy, his background, and the intersections between sound healing and personal well-being.
Coco T. Bear introduces himself as a sonic shaman, explaining that his role involves teaching others about the significance of sound in fostering connections and releasing daily stress. He emphasizes the importance of using instruments that avoid "wrong notes," making his practices accessible and universally calming.
[02:28] Coco T. Bear: "I do refer to myself as a sonic shaman. Sonic a shaman being someone who teaches you what they know. And what I know is sound and how sound can not only help us connect to each other but also release what we go through in our day-to-day life."
Conan expresses curiosity about the tools Coco uses, noting the absence of traditional instruments like the piano or guitar, which can often produce discordant sounds. Instead, Coco prefers instruments that intrinsically produce harmonious sounds, ensuring a seamless auditory experience for participants.
The dialogue shifts to the structure and execution of a sound bath session. Coco describes how participants experience the vibrations of sound through instruments such as osteophonic tuning forks, which gently press against the skeletal structure to facilitate a deeper connection with the body's own vibrations.
[05:03] Coco T. Bear: "But none of my instruments have any wrong notes. I found these instruments that I loved hearing, feeling, and then I was like, I want to play those instruments."
Conan humorously questions the placement of tuning forks near sensitive areas, highlighting his own skepticism and lack of formal knowledge in the practice.
[05:21] Matt Gourley: "Why the mastoid process? What does that do?"
[05:23] Conan O'Brien: "I'm glad you asked."
Coco clarifies that while sound baths are inherently relaxing, a portion of participants often arrive under the influence of other substances, which can alter their experience. He shares anecdotes from events like the "Highest Hour," where sound baths were combined with dispensary offerings, illustrating the diverse motivations and experiences of attendees.
An attempt is made to conduct a live sound bath during the podcast, showcasing the interactive nature of the session. While Conan and his guests engage playfully, Coco maintains his composure, guiding them through the breathing exercises and sound manipulations. The experiment underscores the difference between professional sound baths and casual, humorous attempts by individuals unfamiliar with the practice.
[10:38] Conan O'Brien: "Okay. That makes me feel a genie's here."
[10:45] Sona Movsesian: "This with you, too."
Despite the lighthearted interruptions and comedic interjections from Conan and Matt, Coco effectively manages to create a calming environment, demonstrating his expertise and adaptability.
Coco shares his personal journey from skepticism to belief in sound healing. Initially dismissive, he encountered a transformative teacher, Lauren Rose, who deepened his understanding of sound's impact on the body and mind. This evolution highlights the profound influence of dedicated mentorship in the realm of alternative therapies.
[19:27] Coco T. Bear: "When I found this, I was still using the phrase hippie dippy bullshit on a regular basis. I was quite a skeptic."
His commitment is evident as he recounts attending multiple sound baths a week and integrating improvisational skills from his background in theater to enhance his sessions.
[19:40] Coco T. Bear: "I was doing 10 of these a week at minimum. And so I had my own little southwest jokes, you know, things that always killed in the room."
Throughout the episode, Conan and his co-hosts infuse humor into the conversation, making the podcast both informative and entertaining. From playful banter about sound baths disrupting the tranquility to jestful remarks about personal experiences, the dynamic keeps listeners engaged while subtly educating them about sound therapy.
[21:00] Conan O'Brien: "I've never been with a woman when she orgasm. It's a first for me. I always thought it was like a yeti, just something you heard about but didn't exist. Incredible."
This blend of humor and insightful discussion underscores the podcast's aim to bridge the gap between celebrity interviews and genuine friendship through authentic conversations.
As the episode nears its end, Conan expresses a sincere appreciation for Coco's work, contemplating future collaborations that might blend their unique talents. The conversation wraps up with a lighthearted exchange about potential sound bath sessions, leaving room for future explorations of sound healing within the podcast's framework.
[27:25] Conan O’Brien: "I want to have a sound bath. I want you to be my sonic shaman. And I think we're going to make this work out sometime in the future."
Coco reciprocates the sentiment, highlighting the mutual respect and the potential for ongoing friendship and collaboration.
"The Bear and the Bath" episode offers listeners a deep dive into the niche yet fascinating world of sound healing through the lens of Coco T. Bear's expertise. Conan's blend of curiosity, humor, and genuine interest paves the way for meaningful discussions about alternative wellness practices, emphasizing the podcast's mission to forge real friendships through authentic and diverse conversations.
Notable Quotes:
Coco T. Bear at [02:28]: "I do refer to myself as a sonic shaman. Sonic a shaman being someone who teaches you what they know."
Conan O’Brien at [19:25]: "And it also sounds like it would work."
Coco T. Bear at [23:58]: "This is actually the first podcast I ever actually started listening to regularly."
Conan O’Brien at [27:25]: "I want you to be my sonic shaman. And I think we're going to make this work out sometime in the future."
This episode seamlessly blends humor with insightful exploration into sound therapy, providing both entertainment and education. Whether you're new to the concept of sound baths or a seasoned enthusiast, "The Bear and the Bath" offers valuable perspectives on the healing power of sound and the journey of embracing unconventional wellness practices.