The Sona and Matt of New Zealand

Summary

Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend Episode: The Sona and Matt of New Zealand
Release Date: November 28, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend, Conan engages in a heartfelt and humorous conversation with Glenn Hart from Auckland, New Zealand. Hosted by Team Coco and Earwolf, the podcast aims to foster genuine friendships between Conan and his guests, moving beyond the typical late-night interview format.

Guest Introduction: Glenn Hart from Auckland, New Zealand

Glenn Hart calls in from Auckland, the largest city in New Zealand, situated in the North Island. Conan expresses his curiosity and admiration for New Zealand, mentioning his desire to visit someday.

Notable Quote:

• Conan O’Brien [02:16]: "Auckland, New Zealand. Yes, help me. Which part of New Zealand is that?"

Background and Career

Glenn shares that he works in breakfast radio, requiring him to wake up at 2:52 AM to arrive at the station by 3:45 AM. He humorously describes his routine and the challenges of his early hours.

Notable Quote:

• Glenn Hart [06:09]: "I have to arrive here at the station about 3:45am. So that means my alarm goes off at 2:52 hard pass."

Family Life and Empty Nest

Glenn discusses his family life, mentioning his wife and two grown-up daughters, Billy and Macy. He recounts a brief period when they were empty nesters, enjoying the newfound quiet, only for his daughters to move back in due to personal circumstances.

Notable Quote:

• Glenn Hart [07:34]: "We had about a six-week period when my wife and I were empty nesters... and then it all went out the window again."

Challenges with Adult Children Living at Home

The conversation delves into the dynamic of having adult children living at home. Glenn expresses a mix of love and the desire for his daughters to establish their own households, humorously highlighting the chaos that ensues when they return.

Notable Quote:

• Conan O’Brien [08:15]: "Billy and Macy. I get the sense that you wouldn't be unhappy if Billy and Macy maybe got their own place."

Conan’s Playful Suggestions

Conan offers playful solutions to Glenn’s predicament, including helping his daughters find their own apartments and even suggesting showcasing his work to inspire them. Their banter is filled with humor, especially when referencing The Simpsons monorail episode.

Notable Quotes:

• Conan O’Brien [10:44]: "Then I could sing the monorail song to them. I'm telling you, I could."
• Glenn Hart [12:33]: "This is music to my ears."

Cultural Insights on New Zealand

Glenn provides cultural insights, mentioning the concept of "two degrees of separation" in New Zealand, where the population is tightly-knit. This leads to humorous exchanges about Conan potentially being mistaken for a local comedian, Chris Parker.

Notable Quote:

• Glenn Hart [21:52]: "Chances are you'll go into that restaurant and Chris Parker will actually be sitting there anyway."

Advice and Mutual Respect

Towards the end of the conversation, Conan seeks advice from Glenn, who cleverly deflects by highlighting Conan’s efforts to connect. Their mutual respect culminates in Conan expressing genuine appreciation for Glenn and a desire to help him.

Notable Quotes:

• Conan O’Brien [20:12]: "Any advice for Conan?"
• Conan O’Brien [23:00]: "I think maybe if you start familiarizing them with my work, who knows?"

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with heartfelt goodbyes, emphasizing the genuine connection formed between Conan and Glenn. Both express hope for future interactions and the possibility of helping Glenn’s family dynamics.

Notable Quote:

• Conan O’Brien [25:25]: "You never know in this crazy world what's gonna happen."

Key Takeaways

• Authentic Friendship: The episode exemplifies the podcast’s mission to build real friendships, showcasing Conan’s sincere interest in Glenn’s life.
• Cultural Exchange: Glenn provides a glimpse into New Zealand’s culture, enriching the conversation with local humor and societal norms.
• Family Dynamics: The discussion on adult children living at home highlights universal familial challenges with a comedic twist.
• Humor and Heart: Balancing humor with heartfelt moments, the episode reinforces the podcast’s blend of entertainment and genuine connection.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [02:16] Conan O’Brien: "Auckland, New Zealand. Yes, help me. Which part of New Zealand is that?"
• [06:09] Glenn Hart: "I have to arrive here at the station about 3:45am. So that means my alarm goes off at 2:52 hard pass."
• [07:34] Glenn Hart: "We had about a six-week period when my wife and I were empty nesters... and then it all went out the window again."
• [08:15] Conan O’Brien: "Billy and Macy. I get the sense that you wouldn't be unhappy if Billy and Macy maybe got their own place."
• [10:44] Conan O’Brien: "Then I could sing the monorail song to them. I'm telling you, I could."
• [21:52] Glenn Hart: "Chances are you'll go into that restaurant and Chris Parker will actually be sitting there anyway."
• [23:00] Glenn Hart: "I think maybe if you start familiarizing them with my work, who knows?"
• [25:25] Conan O’Brien: "You never know in this crazy world what's gonna happen."

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This episode stands out as a blend of humor, sincerity, and cultural exchange, embodying the spirit of Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend. Listeners who enjoy heartfelt conversations sprinkled with comedic elements will find this episode both entertaining and relatable.

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

It does.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

Oh, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

That's weird.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com callconan okay, let's get started.

[Matt Gourlay]

Hi, Glenn, and Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hi, how are you?

[Glenn Hart]

Calling from Auckland, New Zealand. Hi.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, wow. Auckland, New Zealand. Yes, help me. Which part of New Zealand is that? I'm trying to think. Are you on the north or the south? Where is Auckland?

[Glenn Hart]

So it's the largest city in New Zealand and it's in The North Island. So about, I guess, 2/3, 4/5 of the way up, something like that of the North Island.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, well, now I'm completely confused. I've never been to New Zealand before, but I've always, I've always wanted to go. The people I meet from New Zealand are fantastic. And of course I've seen, of course, many images of New Zealand and it looks beautiful. I just haven't experienced it myself. So I'm anxious to see it one day.

[Glenn Hart]

Right. Well, Auckland is known as the city of Sails because we have a beautiful. We're surrounded by a beautiful harbour. We have a harbour bridge that's kind of like a. It's like a little version of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Yeah, the reason that you've only ever met nice New Zealanders is because we send all the horrible ones to Australia.

[Conan O'Brien]

Now I've been to Australia, I've been there several times.

[Glenn Hart]

So you know what I'm talking about, right?

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh God. Just filled with horrible New Zealanders. Let's talk. Glenn, tell me a little bit about yourself. You seem, I'm guessing you work in radio because you seem to have a professional setup there and you seem very comfortable on mic. Is that a correct assumption?

[Glenn Hart]

Yes, that is a correct assumption. So yeah, I've literally just come off here. That's not my show. Yeah, I'm kind of like the Met and or sona of the show. So I just chip in when.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, so you're expendable.

[Sona Movsesian]

We have heart.

[Conan O'Brien]

You're the linchpin. You could go at any time and.

[Matt Gourlay]

The couldn't do without.

[Conan O'Brien]

People wouldn't care. Listen, please, those are just jokes. I love you guys. And of course you're an essential part of this stew. Little lentils, and I am the large piece of delicious beef. That's for sure. That is for sure, Glenn. So you work on a radio show. Do you get recognized at all when you walk around?

[Glenn Hart]

Only if I talk because people don't really know what I look like. They've only ever heard me. So yeah, they are usually pretty disappointed when they see what I look like.

[Conan O'Brien]

That is not true, Glenn. You're a very good looking gentleman and so people must get excited. Say when you order a pizza over the phone, they must say, oh my God, is this Glenn Hart asking for New Zealand's finest pizza?

[Glenn Hart]

I can't say that's happened to me, but I did once when I was on a plane, you know, and you know, everybody's doing the overhead baggage situation, you know, that kind of pre flight jostle. Around somebody. Yeah. At that point said, hey, are you Glenn off the radio? And you know, so then I had that moment of, oh, no, am I about to be stuck sitting next to somebody who is a big fan of the show? That could go either way. But luckily New Zealanders are pretty shy. And, yeah, he left me alone.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wait, are you saying, are you saying you didn't want to sit next to a big fan? That's my favorite thing. I call ahead to the airline and I say, can you find out who knows Conan O'Brien and can you seat them next to me? And then can we talk about my career arc?

[Glenn Hart]

Well, this is, this is a New Zealand thing. Right. So you know us. You know, you guys love to put people on a pedestal. You love to be the person on a pedestal.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, yes.

[Glenn Hart]

In New Zealand. You know, in New Zealand, the tall puppy syndrome is, you know, is live and large.

[Conan O'Brien]

I see.

[Glenn Hart]

So, yeah, if anybody, once anybody gets too successful, you know, then it's up to the rest of us to pull them down to our level.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, I understand.

[Glenn Hart]

We all think we could be the Prime Minister if we just gave it a go, for example.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, I think we all feel that way. I feel very American. Yeah, in the United States. We all feel that way these days. Glenn, tell me a little bit about your life. I want to get to know Glenn Hart from Auckland, New Zealand. What's going on in your life?

[Glenn Hart]

Well, so because I work in breakfast radio, I have to arrive here at the station about 3:45am no. So that, that means my alarm goes off at 2:52 hard pass. God, Sona, you don't want a job of breakfast radio?

[Sona Movsesian]

No, I'm good. I'll pass.

[Unnamed Producer]

She just threw up on the floor.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Sona's working hours in her contract are 1 in the afternoon to 1:30 in the afternoon. And then we have to pay her Uber to and fro.

[Glenn Hart]

That sounds like a big day.

[Conan O'Brien]

So you get up at close to 2 o'clock in the morning.

[Matt Gourlay]

What time do you go to bed?

[Glenn Hart]

As soon as I can. Yeah. All I ever want to do is be asleep. So generally about quarter past eight.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Glenn Hart]

I try and get a little nap in in the afternoon, after lunch, depending on what's going on in my life, because otherwise by. Yeah, about 6pm I'm not making any sense at all.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, you haven't made a lick of sense since you got on with us.

[Glenn Hart]

No. Well, it could be the accent.

[Conan O'Brien]

Ye. And you're bleeding from the mouth. Just a little word to the wise. Okay. So you've got crazy hours. Do you have a family?

[Glenn Hart]

Yep. So I have a wife and two daughters. Grown up daughters. They did both actually leave and go off to university and then both came back again.

[Conan O'Brien]

And so how do you, how do you feel about that, Glenn?

[Matt Gourlay]

I think we know.

[Conan O'Brien]

How do you. How do you feel about that, Glenn?

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah, yeah, I think Matt picked up on a little tone there. As I said about. We had about. There was about a six week period when my, when my wife and I were empty nesters. And, you know, we just sat around frequently just looking at each other, going, saying things like, hey, what do you want for dinner? And we'd say, oh, I don't know, just a toasted sandwich would be fine. Sure. And everything was nice and casual. You're not cooking for anybody. You're not, you know, driving people around to places. And then, yeah, that six weeks went by and then it all went out the window again.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wait, so you had six weeks of being empty nesters, then they're back? Yes, they're back in the house.

[Glenn Hart]

Then one of them broke up with their boyfriend and moved back in.

[Conan O'Brien]

What are your daughter's names?

[Glenn Hart]

So Billy and Macy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, Billy and Macy. I get the sense that you wouldn't be unhappy if Billy and Macy maybe got their own place.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I love these girls, right? Yes. So Billie, for example, she has her masters in classical performance music and clarinet. And so she's gone on to be a teacher. She teaches other kids how to play clarinet. And she also plays piano and teaches piano, teaches saxophone. And sometimes she does this in our house while I'm trying to get that afternoon nap. So, you know, it would be great if that was just happening.

[Conan O'Brien]

And the other, the other daughter loves clogging. She likes to wear the traditional lead clogs, which are before wood. Okay, so listen, don't get me wrong. I understand what you're saying. You're a good dad. You and your wife love your kids, but it might be nice if they had their own place. Yes.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Matt Gourlay]

How do you suggest he does that?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, how would it go over if I spoke to them? Oh, would I have any sway with your daughters at all?

[Glenn Hart]

Well, maybe so. My. So when I told my family that I was coming on this podcast and I said, you know who Conan O'Brien is, right? And there were kind of semi blank stares. They sort of had a, had an idea. And I explained, you know, Conan, he's a famous, you know, late show host, you know, you know, and My youngest daughter said, oh, he's not one of the bad ones, is he? He didn't do something bad, did he?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, yes, I've done bad things, but I. I know, but we covered it up. It was in the late 80s before I got on television. Yeah. Okay, so they're not. They don't sound like they're super fans of mine, to put it in my.

[Glenn Hart]

Let's put it that way.

[Conan O'Brien]

Listen, listen. Sometimes a blank stare, you can see a little bit of slight recognition in there. Maybe if they saw my face, it would change from blank stare more to, I don't know, horror. Who can say which way it would go? But I'm very convincing, Glenn. And maybe I could find them a place and move them into it. What do you think this sounds.

[Glenn Hart]

This is music to my ears. Yeah. I have been waiting for somebody to come up and.

[Conan O'Brien]

Not clarinet, which is great. Yeah.

[Glenn Hart]

So she's a great clarinet player, but, you know, it's like spongebob and Squidward. Right. There's only so much that you can take. And then.

[Conan O'Brien]

Listen, the clarinet is fine in doses, and that's fine. But I. She sounds very talented. They sound like lovely young women, but I think they need to move out of your house, and I think they need to talk to someone they look up to and admire. Unfortunately, we don't know who that is.

[Glenn Hart]

Well, I mean, you are. You are taller than both of them. So they would be looking after you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Are they? You know, sometimes. What about old Simpsons episodes? What? Maybe I could show them old Simpsons. Sometimes people who don't know my work now like old Simpsons episodes that I worked on.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah. No. One of my daughters was just saying the other night they just rewatched the monorail episode.

[Conan O'Brien]

There you go. There you go.

[Glenn Hart]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

You could say the man behind the monorail episode is here, and he's going to help you move into a new apartment.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah. Boy, has he got something to sell you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, exactly. Then I could sing the monorail song to them. I'm telling you, I could.

[Glenn Hart]

Monorail.

[Conan O'Brien]

Monorail. Yes, I know. Monorail.

[Sona Movsesian]

Apartment, apartment, apartment, apartment, apartment yes, it's.

[Conan O'Brien]

Nice and cozy on your own Apartment, apartment It's kind of a separate home. Apartment, apartment this bed folds out and it sleeps, too.

[Glenn Hart]

Apartment, apartment, apartment don't ring dead after.

[Conan O'Brien]

Two yeah, our apartment Apartment, apartment See, we're doing it. I think the two of us could get them out of the house. And I say that again with love. I mean, I like.

[Glenn Hart]

Me, too. Absolutely.

[Conan O'Brien]

I know you love them. Me less so. Cause they don't seem to know my work. But I'll get over it. I'll get over it. But I like you, Glenn. And I'd like to help. I'd like to help you if I could. That's all.

[Glenn Hart]

Hey, that's. That's all I can ask.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, no, a lot of people ask for other things too. You know, I was going to give you money, but you said that's all I can ask, so you fucked that up real good.

[Glenn Hart]

Just a one time offer. Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

Sony. You like to travel? You like to go away and have a good time?

[Sona Movsesian]

I do. I like taking the boys and Tack and I go somewhere.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

For the holidays this year we're thinking about, you know, just taking a trip to, you know, Lake Arrowhead for a week or something. You know, just somewhere nearby.

[Conan O'Brien]

Lake Arrowhead. That'd be beautiful.

[Sona Movsesian]

It would.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then it occurred to me recently. What happens? Cause you've got a lovely home. You guys have a beautiful home. You've done a very nice restoration on it. What happens to your home when you guys are away?

[Sona Movsesian]

It just sits there. It just sits there.

[Conan O'Brien]

It shouldn't.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

It shouldn't.

[Glenn Hart]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

Think about it. If you host. Okay. If you host with Airbnb while you're away, it's basically like you're getting paid to travel.

[Sona Movsesian]

Exactly.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, it's geni.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

So don't leave money on the table the next time you're out of town. When you're away, your home could be an Airbnb. Yeah, it's a cool idea. Think about it.

[Sona Movsesian]

I will.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I've got good ideas. Your home, AKA your future Airbnb might be worth more than you think. I think yours would be worth a lot because you guys did a beautiful job on it.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thank you. I hope so.

[Conan O'Brien]

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That is actually pretty sweet.

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[Sona Movsesian]

But they screen your calls a lot, don't they?

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[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, you drop the ball a lot.

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Yeah.

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[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

So many ads all over the place.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, if your message isn't targeted to the right audience, it just disappears into all that noise. Yeah, it's like dropping a coin down a fountain. You never hear that splash.

[Sona Movsesian]

Down a fountain or a well.

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[Glenn Hart]

No, it most definitely is that kind of program. I mean, for instance, we had the big country star Luke Combs on the show just this week.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, do your kids know who Luke Combs is?

[Glenn Hart]

I really hope not. I'm not a huge fan myself of country music, but wow.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, I'm glad Luke Combs already did the interview. I'm glad he's out of the building. Hey, you got him on tape, so I hope that.

[Glenn Hart]

Wow. I just can't Believe I did a drive by on Luke combs.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, Conan O'Brien. You just shit on a guest on your show who you were bragging about. You were like, hey, we got Luke Combs. You like them? No. Oh, wow.

[Glenn Hart]

So the question is, though, Conan, could you get up early enough in the morning to come in and be on a breakfast show?

[Conan O'Brien]

Of course I could.

[Glenn Hart]

You an early riser?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, of course I could get up. Hey, listen, I'm ready to go anytime, day or night, okay? I am always present, always ready to go.

[Glenn Hart]

Right. Well, then you'd be a perfect guest.

[Conan O'Brien]

Let me ask you, maybe because you've been working in broadcasting for a long time in the radio section. I only started doing the podcast about five years ago. Is there any advice you can give me?

[Glenn Hart]

Any advice for Conan?

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm always looking to improve. Just kidding. I'm sorry. That was funny.

[Glenn Hart]

I know. You can see why I was so taken aback because I've been listening for pretty much the whole duration of the podcast. Cody.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I know. I was kidding about the whole advice.

[Glenn Hart]

I wasn't expecting you to ask for it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, no, I don't know what I was. Listen, listen, I think I like you. You seem like a fine fellow. You've got a good sense of humor. You wear a shirt that matches exactly the color of what's behind you, which is why you'll never be a weatherman.

[Glenn Hart]

Like I say, New Zealanders, we just like to fade into the background.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, exactly. How would I, how would I get along in New Zealand? If I come to New Zealand, how would the people treat me, do you think?

[Glenn Hart]

I think that they might. There is a guy called Chris Parker who is a tall red headed comedian in New Zealand. And people might think that you're him if they don't know that you're you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, that's fine.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah, yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

As long as he's well liked, I'll take it.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah, yeah, no, he's very popular.

[Conan O'Brien]

So if I go into restaurants and say I'm Chris Parker and I want a lamb pie, they'll serve it up.

[Glenn Hart]

That'll work. Well, except in New Zealand we have this thing. So you know the rule of six degrees of separation, right? That, that you know, everybody knows everybody in the world, you know, because you know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody, blah, blah, blah. Well, in New Zealand we call that rule 2 degrees. Oh, so. So, so like I say, there's only 5 million people here, so we know somebody who knows somebody.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right?

[Glenn Hart]

So chances are you'll go into that restaurant and Chris Parker will actually be sitting there anyway.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Okay, so that's my scam. Won't work. My scam of running up a big tab and putting it on this red haired Chris Parker probably not going to work out.

[Glenn Hart]

And that's one of the main reasons why I wanted to be on your show, Conan, because, you know, you've talked to all these fantastic people, you know, people like Jeff Goldblum, people like Harrison Ford, and Now I'm only 2 degrees away from those people. It's fantastic.

[Conan O'Brien]

Aren't you just one degree away?

[Glenn Hart]

Well, I know you. You know them two.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's two.

[Matt Gourlay]

I always get confused by this too.

[Conan O'Brien]

I get confused by it too.

[Sona Movsesian]

I think it's two. Because if it was just you, then you'd be one degree.

[Conan O'Brien]

I think it's more with Harrison Ford because he can be a very distant person. Yeah. So I think it's five degrees separation. Yeah, he's a degree and a half.

[Glenn Hart]

He certainly sounded like he was trying to separate himself a little bit further.

[Conan O'Brien]

Away during the podcast. I tend to frighten him. I like this. I like talking to you. And I wish you all the best with your daughters. And I think maybe if you start familiarizing them with my work, who knows?

[Glenn Hart]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Then I'm.

[Glenn Hart]

I've been trying to get.

[Sona Movsesian]

Who knows.

[Glenn Hart]

I've been trying to get them to watch. Kind of get them to watch. Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

Drink.

[Glenn Hart]

Drink this acid.

[Conan O'Brien]

Do it. It's good for you.

[Matt Gourlay]

If you go visit, first thing you have to do is an orientation where you do a presentation on who you are to them.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Glenn Hart]

Then you can get them in a. Maybe.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's what I do.

[Glenn Hart]

Nice. Like a PowerPoint.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I'll do a PowerPoint presentation on who I am and why they should care.

[Matt Gourlay]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then I'll tell them to get out of the house.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Glenn Hart]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I'll.

[Glenn Hart]

So you can stand in front of a green screen with a pointer.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Glenn Hart]

And you know, here's the monorail on the Simpsons. Here's me looking a Norwegian in the street.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yep. The whole arc of my career. That's all you know. That's all you know. Oh my God. You just took Lincoln from Wood Chopper to Ford's theater and you skip the whole rest of the part.

[Glenn Hart]

Listen. And then here's the house. Here's the apartment.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Glenn Hart]

Away from the house or the flat as well, we would call it in New Zealand.

[Conan O'Brien]

Ah, we'll get you into a flat. I'm going to. Well, I. I hope someday we meet. I hope maybe it's possible That I can get your daughters to move nearby because you do love them, you care about them, you want them to. But enough of the clarinet at 2 in the morning and. And we'll. We'll try and see if we can make that happen. I think that'd be nice.

[Glenn Hart]

That'd be a dream. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Dream come true. Well, that's what I do. Some people say I make dreams come true. I've never. No, no one's ever said that yet.

[Glenn Hart]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

What I said was. It was aspirational. Okay. That someday someone's gonna say, you made my dreams come true. I see something that hasn't been said yet but could be said in the future.

[Glenn Hart]

Okay, so what you're saying is you could be in my dreams tonight.

[Conan O'Brien]

You frightened me. I didn't see you there. You. You drifted into the background again. Glenn, you're a madman.

[Glenn Hart]

Hey, I haven't had a lot of sleep. I'm sorry.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, you're sleep deprived. Madman. Have a great day. Or night. I don't know. What time of day is it where you are now?

[Glenn Hart]

It is just coming up to 10 in the morning here.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay. So probably time for you to go to bed.

[Glenn Hart]

Yeah, it's almost past my bedtime.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, my best to you, not my best to your daughters because they don't seem to give a shit, but we'll correct that.

[Glenn Hart]

And, yeah, we'll work on that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Have a terrific day. And I hope our paths cross. I really do.

[Glenn Hart]

Okay, so do I. I really hope they really hope they do.

[Conan O'Brien]

You never know. You never know in this crazy world what's gonna happen. All right, go change your shirt. Bye.

[Glenn Hart]

Bye. Bye. See ya. Lovely to meet you, Matt and Sarda.

[Matt Gourlay]

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