
Actor and comedian Zach Galifianakis feels Zach Galifianakis about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Zach sits down with Conan once more to discuss his early days as a busboy at a strip joint, why it’s so important for comics to take on the powerful, and pouring his passion for gardening into his new show This Is a Gardening Show. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847.
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Zach Galifianakis
Hi, my name is Zach Galifianakis and I feel Zach Galifianakis, about being Conan o' Brien's friend. I have to say, I feel up Zach Galifianakis.
Conan O'Brien
You don't, you don't seem up.
Sona Movsesian
Fall is here Hear the yell back
Zach Galifianakis
to school Ring the bell Brand new
Sona Movsesian
shoes Walk and lose Climb the fence Books and pens I can tell that
Conan O'Brien
we are gonna be friends
Sona Movsesian
I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
Conan O'Brien
Hey there and welcome to Conan o' Brien Needs a Friend, joined by Sonam Obsession. Hi and wow. Let's pump it up a little bit. Hi. I wish you were a voice on Siri and you were just like, hey, hi. Bleh. Yeah, no one would. There'd be no follow ups for Siri. What else can I help you with? Forget it. Siri and David hopping. You're a cheery chat.
Zach Galifianakis
Hello.
Conan O'Brien
Good to see you.
Zach Galifianakis
You too.
Conan O'Brien
Sona. You asked me to do a lot of favors and I want to talk about this. What? Yeah, you do. You asked me to do a lot of favors. It's can you do this for me? Can you do that for me? You know, it's Armenian this week and it's Armenian that week. Can you do a thing for me? And it's sometimes I want you to know that it's a little much. You take advantage. Can you do a blurb from my book? Can you also write an intro, then an outro? I mean, what's going on? Do you see me and just see a doormat? Is that what you see?
Zach Galifianakis
Oh my God.
Conan O'Brien
What if I get you a doormat and instead of saying welcome, it's just my face because you walk all over it all the time anyway.
Sona Movsesian
That's so unfair. I'm so mad. I hate asking you for favors.
Conan O'Brien
I know. Well, you don't hate it that much. I'm sorry. I'm. How could you hate it that much?
Sona Movsesian
Cackling so hard like a bird, saying,
Conan O'Brien
I hate building a mess.
Sona Movsesian
How many times do I tell you? Conan agreed to do something for me,
Conan O'Brien
like, hey, guess what? I'm an owl saying, I hate hooting.
Sona Movsesian
Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. I sure hate it. Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo.
Conan O'Brien
23 hours later.
Sona Movsesian
Hoo, hoo.
Conan O'Brien
I sure hate it.
Sona Movsesian
Hoo hoo. Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
I mean, that's my impression. If you were an owl and asking a favor was hooting, you'd be hooting a lot.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, no, it's good. It's good for you to explain it. I hate asking you for favors. There are so many things people ask me to ask you that I speak specifically.
Conan O'Brien
Say you filter stuff out. Yeah. How could there be more?
Sona Movsesian
What are you talking about? Do you know how much stuff. First of all, it's your fault because you made me. You put me on this podcast. People know who I am now. I'm attached to you for the rest of your life until you die.
Conan O'Brien
And so, please, that's not for months.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, come on. But it's. It comes with, I'm sorry. You did it. It's. It's your. It's you. It's your fault.
Conan O'Brien
Your speech champion.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, come on.
Conan O'Brien
Listen.
Sona Movsesian
Come on.
Conan O'Brien
I. Listen. I don't begrudge you anything.
Sona Movsesian
Yes, you do.
Conan O'Brien
I do. Of course I do. I just made it the whole front of the show.
Sona Movsesian
Yes, it's a lot.
Conan O'Brien
And, David, do I do a lot of favors for people?
Zach Galifianakis
You do a lot of favors for everybody, not just Sona.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, what the fuck, David? I'm just. I don't ask for that many.
Zach Galifianakis
Do you do favors for every. You do favors? Raise your hand if Donan's ever done a favor for you.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah, I.
Conan O'Brien
The only. I actually never asked for. When your Aquaman figurine got stolen from your apartment, you asked me to put up posters, and I did. I never. Then when your iron man got stolen, I put up posters for that. That's right. He offered. Then when your several hundred of your other figurines were stolen, you asked me to call the police for you, and I did. That's right.
Zach Galifianakis
It was very nice.
Conan O'Brien
I was just saying I never asked for favors, but I know that you would help Me out. The only favor I've ever asked you for is when you were in my short film and you did it, and it was. So don't say you never asked me. But that was. But in 25 years, I've asked you for one thing. Can I ask you to be in a mov. You made. That's a big favor.
Sona Movsesian
When you.
Conan O'Brien
I'm just saying. You can't start by saying I never asked for favors. Except for that one time when you did me a huge favor. Trying to help you in your argument with Sona. Why are you attacking me? Because when I see you, I just see red. Yeah, you're like a. I'm a. I'm a bull, and you're a giant red blankie that's flopping around in the wind. You do a lot of favors for everybody and very. I don't know that you've ever asked any of us for a favor. You know, Baskin Robbins, I famously, I think, had 38 flavors. I think I do more than 38.
Sona Movsesian
That's our whole job. Our whole job was doing stuff for you. That's our whole job.
Zach Galifianakis
You get paid for that.
Sona Movsesian
I know, baby.
Zach Galifianakis
I got you your lunch today.
Conan O'Brien
I ordered you a leave.
Zach Galifianakis
Can we talk about that?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Hey, if people know out there that I occasionally take a leave, I don't
Zach Galifianakis
know what you like to keep secret.
Conan O'Brien
No, that's a secret.
Sona Movsesian
I think we've all.
Conan O'Brien
No one must know of my Aleve. You know, I. That's why I always. When I throw out my Aleve bottles, I always. I always try to throw them out in someone else's trash can because no one can know that I occasionally have some muscle stiffness.
Sona Movsesian
I don't have time for this bit. I'm angry right now. I'm so mad right now.
Conan O'Brien
You're. Are you really mad?
Sona Movsesian
Are you done with the Alief thing right now? Because I want to address this accusation.
Conan O'Brien
You leave it for now. Home run. Okay, wait a minute. There's too much to unpack here, as the kids say these days. I hate that saying, but my wife uses it all the time. We. And sometimes she says it while we're unpacking on a trip. And then I think, okay, whatever. Anyway, let's revisit this later on in the show and get to our next guest.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
My guest today is a very funny actor and comedian who starred in the Hangover movies. Now you can see him in the new AMC series the Audacity. And he has a new gardening show called this is a gardening Show. How does he come up with these names? He's truly one of the funniest people I know. Zach Galifianakis.
Zach Galifianakis
Welcome.
Conan O'Brien
When I walk into a room, I'm used to people. I mean, even pretty big stars are like, whoa, it's him. You know? And then I walked in today, and you. Your heart beats, like, one beat every two hours. You were just sitting there, totally unimpressed that Conan o' Brien had walked into the room.
Zach Galifianakis
What would you like one to do when you enter the room? Jump up? No, it seems insincere.
Conan O'Brien
Whoa, look at that guy.
Zach Galifianakis
What up, brah? So good to see you. Hey, brah.
Conan O'Brien
Dude.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Yes.
Zach Galifianakis
That's the real me.
Conan O'Brien
Well, I mean, we go way back.
Zach Galifianakis
I've known you for many years in a showbiz way.
Conan O'Brien
Early, early days. You used to come on my show, and you were always hilarious. And don't look at your watch.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, Jesus.
Conan O'Brien
What the fuck was that?
Zach Galifianakis
Time is moving slow. That's so rude. We can cut this short.
Conan O'Brien
I was trying to compliment him about how funny he was. And this is before America had Zach Galifianakis fever. This is back when they had Conan fever and I lent some of my fever to Zach Galifianakis. And then America had the very contagious Zach Galifianakis fever.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I like to call it sizzle. I still have a sizzle.
Conan O'Brien
You sizzled and sizzled all the way. Sizzle through the late 90s, 2000s.
Zach Galifianakis
Did you guys get my sizzle reel? I sent it over.
Conan O'Brien
We got your sazzle reel.
Zach Galifianakis
It's past tense.
Conan O'Brien
The past tense of sizzle. You sazzled back in the day. I used to sazzle in the early 2000s. No one sazzled like you. You're not this. But I adore you. I think you're a wonderful fellow. One of my favorite comedy pieces of work is your work on Between Two Ferns. I think it's absolutely hysterical. Thank you. And endures. And I resent you for that.
Zach Galifianakis
Why are you resentful? It does seem. I know you joke about it, but I do think there's a tinge.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, it's all real.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. I do think there is a tangent.
Conan O'Brien
I resent you terribly because you are very funny, and you are, but.
Zach Galifianakis
But also. Is it my height? Is that what you. Is that what you wish you were more like me about?
Conan O'Brien
I do. I wish I was closer to the.
Zach Galifianakis
Is my size of my head? Is that what you wish you had? Parking meter head, Parking meter body. Whatever this is. You get what you're upset about people
Conan O'Brien
try and put time in your head so that they can keep their car there a little longer. So what happens?
Zach Galifianakis
You wish you had a seven syllable last name. I do. No.
Conan O'Brien
You are very funny. You're one of the funniest people I know. And yet you seem grounded and I don't know how to do that. I mean, this guy, he is of the earth. He seems like he's got it all together. He seems like he emotionally wants for nothing. That doesn't seem fair. I mean, yeah, I get some chops.
Sona Movsesian
Oh my God.
Conan O'Brien
But I'm constantly wracked with these roiling seeds.
Zach Galifianakis
Does every podcast turn into like a one man show? Like the light should shift.
Conan O'Brien
We don't need you to talk during this part. In fact, you don't have to be here for this. You're just here to get it started and then I do the rest. Have you listened to the podcast? It's pretty much me yammering and yammering.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, really, it is. You're really taking the floor here. Yeah, I am, but I appreciate all that stuff. I, I don't know if it's true or not, but I, I, I. Grounded is a good is an interesting word.
Conan O'Brien
I'll be serious for a second and then we'll go back to my one man show. You are hilariously funny. And then very. I'm hard pressed to think of anybody who's been less altered by success. You just seem like if all of it went away tomorrow, you'd be very happy and contained doing whatever you're doing. And I love that about you.
Zach Galifianakis
I think that second part is correct. I think I feel I am one of these people that feels very fortunate to be working. But the first part about having success or whatever, being known, that threw me for a, that really messed me up. Not in a woe is me, but I just, no one ever asked me any questions until I was in a movie with a monkey.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
So I just, I found that to be odd. That switch.
Conan O'Brien
Yep.
Zach Galifianakis
And I was older and I think I just. The BS of this, this business or whatever is, it's always been laughable too. I'm from a small town. I think I have a chip on my shoulder when I moved here and I don't know, I think that's kind of healthy. But it affected me for a while and I feel kind of embarrassed by it, actually.
Conan O'Brien
But yeah, I remember it at the height of hangover mania, I went to some event someplace and there were a bunch of. It might have been like on Hollywood Boulevard. Or I had to go into some event, and there were all these people outside the venue. There was, like, a spider man and there was a Superman, whatever, a Batman. And there was a guy who. I thought it was you for a second. And I thought, oh, there's Zack. I'll say hi. And then I realized it's not you. It's a Zach Galifianakis impersonator with a fake baby and a Baby Bjorn.
Zach Galifianakis
These do come true, don't they?
Conan O'Brien
From the. Yeah, from the movie. And it's. So I had a moment.
Zach Galifianakis
I had an idea that you thought maybe that was me in the outfit from the movie. But can I tell you something?
Conan O'Brien
I didn't clock the outfit right away. I just saw out of the corner of my. And by the way, you were known to promote that movie very hard, but. And all the sequels. But no, I just had a moment of thinking, because I know you. I know that that would have bummed you out to your core.
Zach Galifianakis
That would have. Yeah, yeah. But what. You know, what's interesting is as a. I wanted to do this experiment once, and I had the wardrobe. This was many years after we did the Hangover movies. I had the wardrobe sent to me because I was in Vegas and I wanted it to look like how pathetic it was that the actor got into his outfit and was trying to get recognized. And I did it, but no one came up. It was so embarrassing. No one did it. The experiment failed. But, yeah, the Hangover was big. That was a big change. Right.
Conan O'Brien
But I do think it's good for people to hear from you that. Because. And we talk about this a lot on the pod, but are you too
Zach Galifianakis
busy to say podcast?
Conan O'Brien
I am, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
You should do a doc about that.
Conan O'Brien
I don't have the tie to do it. I'm fascinated by this idea that there's a lot of envy surrounding this crazy, weird business and people thinking, oh, my God, all your dreams would come true. And what I found is that it's a magnifying lens. It just magnifies things. So if you're insecure, you will become more insecure. If you tend to be angry, you'll become a rageaholic. If you are someone who's capable of feeling gratitude and appreciate the people around you, those things can be enhanced. But I do think there's a, you know, maybe.
Zach Galifianakis
So that's a good way of looking at it. Yeah. But I was angry about it, to be honest. I was intimidated by it because I thought, as a comedian, to not be able to observe. Cause you had Too many distractions of trying to hide or whatever. It intimidated me, and I got weirded out by it. But now that I'm old, like, none of it matters. And it. You know, who cares? But it was a change. It was a change.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. I've always tried to picture you. Cause I know that your success didn't happen right away. And I knew you for a bunch of years where you'd come on our show and be really funny, but the whole thing hadn't quite gelled or clicked yet. And then.
Zach Galifianakis
And I was this busboy at a strip joint TILL I was 28.
Conan O'Brien
Yes. I was gonna get to that. Yeah, you were. You were. I was. And I try to picture you in these real jobs, in these. I hope so.
Zach Galifianakis
With my briefcase. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I do think that's a real job.
Zach Galifianakis
Going to work, honey. No, but I had to wear, like, a cummerbund. It was like a fancy.
Conan O'Brien
And it was a strip joint.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. On Park. You were in New York, probably at this time. It was called Stringfellows.
Conan O'Brien
Yes.
Zach Galifianakis
So I worked.
Conan O'Brien
I had a table there.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. I never saw you come in, thank goodness.
Conan O'Brien
No, I. Yeah, it was.
Zach Galifianakis
It was. And the guy that I moved to New York, New York with, who we went to college together, he was the cashier at the strip joint. And he ended up being Jimmy Fallon's head writer. 80 miles. If you know 80 miles, that's where
Conan O'Brien
all the best head writers come from.
Sona Movsesian
That's cool.
Zach Galifianakis
And then weird.
Conan O'Brien
Well, I'm curious because I'm trying to picture you in a situation where you have the comedy mind that you have, but you're doing a job like that. You're, you know, you're working at a strip club. You were a busboy.
Zach Galifianakis
Bus boy. Bus boy.
Conan O'Brien
Bus boy.
Zach Galifianakis
Bus boy.
Conan O'Brien
So you're wearing a cummerbund, and it had a crummer.
Zach Galifianakis
Do you know what a crummer is?
Conan O'Brien
No.
Zach Galifianakis
It's a little metal stick that you take out of your pocket and you get the crumbs off the table.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
For Wilt Chamberlain.
Conan O'Brien
If Wilt Chamberlain had gone.
Zach Galifianakis
I think it. I think he came in a lot.
Conan O'Brien
Maybe it was another 7 foot 2 legend. His name was Wilt Chamberlain and he was 7ft 2 inches tall. But it wasn't that Wilt Chamberlain.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. This guy was an accountant.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. And a very good one. So were you funny at that job? And I bring it up because I know that when I did jobs that weren't comedy related early on, I was deadly serious to the point where when they found out later on, oh, I just got a job writing. I'm leaving. They said, there's no way you're a comedy writer. Because I was just dead serious. Never made a joke, just did my work.
Zach Galifianakis
That makes sense.
Conan O'Brien
I think it comes with maybe being depressed. I don't know. What was your situation? The strippers
Zach Galifianakis
were not nice to me at all. I was really intimidated. And the men that went in there were not the men that I would want to hang out with anyway. So it was a weird situation. I don't remember trying to be funny. I'm sure with the others, with Miles that was working there. I'll tell a story. I think I've told this story. Hopefully not here before, but it's a fractured media.
Conan O'Brien
No one's heard it. Go ahead.
Zach Galifianakis
And no one will. But Miles and I. Miles and I were getting ready for work. There was a snowstorm in New York. It was a blizzard, I'll never forget. And it was in the mid-90s. And I'm putting my cumberbud on. Miles had just lost $1,000 from the register. It's Mafia owned, or it was, I think. And so he was so worried he had to go in and face the music. He'd lost his. Lost it. He wouldn't have taken it. He lost it. So I'm putting my cummerbund on, and as I'm looking over, I lived in his closet. And I look up and Miles is tying his shoe. And he says to himself, didn't want me to hear it, knowing he had to go face the music. This is worse than Bosnia. Bosnia was going on at the time.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
And that's what he compared. And I'll never forget how dramatic.
Sona Movsesian
He's not wrong.
Conan O'Brien
He's not wrong that owing Stringfellows 1000 doll is worse than anything that happened in Boston.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, if you know that the Mafia may have. And then what happened? I think what happened. We go to work and the feds came in. They closed it down that day. And that was it.
Conan O'Brien
A mysterious tipped call came in.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes. From a busboy. Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
That's friendship.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. But no, I was. I was very serious at that job, I think. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
We shot a bit once in Houston at like 2 in the morning at a strip club.
Zach Galifianakis
We'll be right back with the World's Worst Bragger.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, we were there to shoot some piece. And so I'm there. I think we were just trying to figure out, because my show in Houston at the time, this is like 1995, 96. Aired at like 3 in the morning. So I went to places at 3 in the morning to figure out if I could see anybody watching our show and who's up and watching TV at 3 in the morning. And that it ended up being very funny. I went to a bus station, I went to an emergency room, and I went to a strip club. And you walk in and you see these beautiful naked women. And, you know, just my. My head turned into a jukebox cartoon where all the cherries come up. It's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And coins came out my mouth. I was like, like all the cartoon stuff, like steam coming out of ears. I'm like, I can't believe it. Within 15 minutes, we had a problem with the camera. And we're trying to figure it out. And this completely naked, beautiful woman, who would have been my fantasy of every way of 16 completely naked, not wearing a stitch of clothing, comes up and starts to talk to me. And I'm like, I'm sorry, can you just give us some room? I gotta. We got an issue with this camera.
Zach Galifianakis
And I kind of. You mean, who, me and you and your ball?
Conan O'Brien
No, no, me and I am not that polite. To my ball. To my ball.
Zach Galifianakis
I imagine you were there by yourself and you said, can you give us some room?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. Pardon me, testicles. No, I have a very different relationship with my testicles. But no, I remember being kind of irritated. Like, can't she step back? We're trying to fix this lens. And I was realizing that, oh, my God, you get inured, you get used to this right away. Like, you're in there for 10 minutes and suddenly it's like, come on, naked, gorgeous woman. Can you give me a break? We need to get this shot.
Zach Galifianakis
And behind the scene, there's nothing. Like the women are talking about how much they hate the men that they have to, like, they, you know, so it's not. It's not thrilling backstage. It's a whole different scene. So that's weird.
Conan O'Brien
Cause strippers love me. They just love me.
Sona Movsesian
Oh. Huh.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
What?
Conan O'Brien
I just. I think I'm the one guy that when I go into strip club, they're just like, wow, I love him.
Sona Movsesian
Conan.
Zach Galifianakis
Conan. When is the last time you've been in a strip club?
Conan O'Brien
1969.
Zach Galifianakis
Right.
Conan O'Brien
I was six years old.
Zach Galifianakis
Right. I was conceived at one. We won't go further into that story. You know what? I didn't know.
Conan O'Brien
Why did I not know that you were at Saturday Night Live? You worked at Saturday Night Live for a very.
Zach Galifianakis
That two week. Don't they Do a two week trial thing. Sometimes they do.
Conan O'Brien
I hear, I don't know. That's not how I came in. But I remember thinking that we were on a two week trial. My writing partner, Greg Daniels and I thinking that was a two week trial. But then later on, someone said, no, you weren't a two week trial, but you were a two week trial.
Zach Galifianakis
I honestly, when I got there, I thought I was. I thought I got hired as a cast member, honestly, because I had already auditioned twice, right. And I was told, you're gonna go and be a feature person. And I said, great. And I got there and they said, no, you're actually gonna write. Which either way, it didn't matter to me. I was just so thrilled that I had that opportunity. It was a tough two weeks. Yeah, because the table reads. I think even if you're, you know, no people there, the table reads can be kind of brutal. I just remember I wrote a sketch and it was. You could only hear the air conditioner in the room.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, I've been like that on stage, you know, so I'm kind of used to it. But there it was just. And I remember for some reason, I was sitting next to Tina Fay, and I just remember her patting my shoulder in a very calm. Not even. Not in a sarcastic way. It was really calming. And I'll never forget that. It was. Actually meant a lot to me, but it was rough, but I was thrilled to be there. But you don't know what you're doing when you get there. Right.
Conan O'Brien
It takes a second to figure it out. And it's not so many shows I've worked on since. And I obviously loved my time at SNL and was so formative for me, but I've very much liked working in late night all those years because it felt like we were all working together a little more, you know, there's so much show to fill. There's. For years it was, you know, five hours a week. You've got to fill. There's no elbowing for room or real estate. Do you know what I mean? There's just. If someone has a good idea, everyone's like, oh, my God, that's great, let's do it. No one's. Well, that's a really funny idea. But I'm not gonna laugh because. And that's so snl definitely much more competitive.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know if it's like that as much anymore.
Conan O'Brien
Might not be, because when I went
Zach Galifianakis
back to host, I noticed, oh, it seemed much more loose and friendlier. Not that it wasn't friendly in the beginning when I was there for writing, but yeah, it was an honor to do it. I didn't have any bad feelings about it. Except for the tumbleweeds going across the writer's room.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. And that feeling of when you put a sketch in if it's not working at read through, you can see everybody flipping to see how many pages this is.
Zach Galifianakis
So you'll have that moment. I'm not supposed to do that. I do that all the time at table. I know. I'm always like, do I have any more parts to this? Scanning for my name.
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Zach Galifianakis
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Conan O'Brien
Yeah, Tommy T. One of my favorite writers of all time. Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
I think he happens to be the funniest person I think I've ever met. Like, he's the that funny. And I knew that he left your show to go right for professional wrestling, right?
Conan O'Brien
Yes. He worked with us back in the 90s, and I knew him through Andy Richter from Chicago. Probably from Chicago. And he brought. And for a while, Tommy didn't say anything and he was super quiet. And I just thought, well, I wonder if this guy's going to work out. I don't know. And then he revealed himself in the writer's room and on paper to be the funniest guy. I gave him a shout out on Stern once. Cause I was on Stern and Stern was kind of talking to me about, so you must just hire like Harvard Lampoon guys. And I said, no, he was like a army guy. Yeah. I said, one of the funniest guys I've ever. One of the funniest writers I've ever known. I don't think went to college.
Zach Galifianakis
Are you talking about Tommy?
Conan O'Brien
And I was talking about Tommy and he said, who is that? And I said, tommy Blacha. So he really brilliantly funny guy.
Zach Galifianakis
He's on a level that I. The same level I would put you on, which is this. We used to do this bit back and forth to each other where it was just really just the dumbest person, right? Cause Tommy's really good at dumb. And it would be like, what about drinking coffee or something? It was always the most obvious. And it always followed with or something.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, or something.
Zach Galifianakis
So one night, Tommy's had to spend the night at my house and we were both working together. We had to get up early the next morning for work. And he's in the next room over and it's seven in the morning. I'm up, but I'm just kind of basically waking up. And I hear Tommy say under his breath as he's waking up, what am I awake or something? And I fell in love with him.
Conan O'Brien
I fell in love with him and
Zach Galifianakis
I used to beg. Like he would make me laugh so hard, like I didn't want to leave him.
Conan O'Brien
It was so he. This is one of my proudest happy moments.
Zach Galifianakis
He.
Conan O'Brien
For I would do all these riffs in the writer's room. That outrageous over the top where I would almost play this over the top host who's incredibly abusive. And I would come into a room and someone would start to talk and I would say, play. Yeah. But I remember at a time I was on this jag of saying, like, why don't you go have a big tall glass of shut up juice? And it was just a really stupid, childish put down that I was doing. And I would do it whenever someone was taking a swig of something. I'd be like, a little more. Just after they had pitched something, I'd be like, oh, a little more shut up juice. Huh? Wet the whistle with some. And they. Tommy left. Cause he was gonna go write for professional wrestling. And he told me, hey, you gotta tune in. I wrote this for the Rock. He's taunting one of his opponents and he tells him, why don't you go have a tall glass of Shut Up Juice? And I was so thrilled. And I watched it, and sure enough, the Rock was like, hey, I'll tell you something. And he's got like my. And he's like, maybe you should just go have a long, two glass, tall glass of Shut Up Juice. And then they cut to people in the arena, and they're, like, holding their heads. The Rock got him. And then I think the following week, someone had a sign that said, shut Up Juice. And I was in heaven. That's a payoff. No one knew. I didn't care if anyone knew that was me or not. And then those are the kind of things that make me super happy. And so, Tommy, one of the funniest.
Zach Galifianakis
Such a funny guy.
Conan O'Brien
I'm curious, like you and these other jobs. It's interesting to me, that. Which I totally understand. You're not being the Zach Galifianakis that people would know. You're just grimly doing your job and trying to do it well, which would describe probably you. And, I mean, I know that you were a nanny for a while doing.
Zach Galifianakis
I was a house cleaner.
Conan O'Brien
House cleaner.
Zach Galifianakis
Cleaned apartments in New York for a couple years. Yeah, I was pretty, you know, I'm pretty quiet, I think. And then the comedy scene kind of maybe broke me out of my shyness. I think somewhat, as I performed more, I got a little bit more comfortable with that stuff. But, yeah, those jobs will humble you. I mean, I moved to New York wanting not my. I didn't want my parents to have to, like, send me anything. Right. And they never did. And I was pretty independent. But my father, he would send me things in the mail. I'm like, oh, go run to the mailbox. Oh, God, I hope this is food. I hope this is food. And I'd open it, and it was always irregular underwear. And just open it in the post office.
Conan O'Brien
It was light.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, maybe he was sitting there with potato chips, but it was always irregular.
Conan O'Brien
Valuable was wrapped in it, you know, I don't know.
Sona Movsesian
Irregular underwear.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, it's cheap.
Conan O'Brien
My dad was cheap. Cheap. I also think there's something to. I used to think about this a lot. When people get to know me and know my rhythm, this will be a little easier. And I think that would be very true of you. I mean, I always thought you would come on our show back in the day and people didn't know you, and you'd sit at a piano and you would tell these great jokes, but you never winked. You never, you know, shot them a Look like you never ingratiated yourself with the crowd. You just completely went in and they had to accept you as you were. And I think you have to do that for a while in order to have people meet you halfway.
Zach Galifianakis
I think that's a. I think you're right. I also think comedically, I should say only I've always thought it's more interesting if you're just doing a stand up bit like that to have kind of a disdain for the audience. You know, I never was like, hi, I'm gonna tell us like that friendly. All right, let's tell stuff. See, stand ups come out. Like, what's up, Miami? God, that's a lot of videos.
Conan O'Brien
You don't want to know how Miami's doing. Miami has no concern or interest in you.
Zach Galifianakis
I respect the audience, but the relation. Now, performers have a real relationship with the audience via social media. That, that too, I've never participated in. I don't. That's a weird. I don't know how to do that.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, you have something that I'm not too familiar with called dignity.
Zach Galifianakis
I could tell you a lot of stories that would go against that.
Conan O'Brien
Well, I mean, we've talked about it. I won't go into it, but I do think that was particularly helpful to you when you did your famous Between Two Ferns interview with Obama, because you're the only person that gave him. I mean, you know, I know that this in any way was just you doing your comedy, but you were so rude as that person. And it's hilarious because I don't think anyone's talked to certainly a sitting president or even in this time, no one's talked.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, all the podcasters that have had the president on now, they don't do their court gesture. They don't do it. They just. They suck up to him.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
So the comedians that have had. That are podcasters that have had Trump on, they're not doing their job.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah, they're.
Zach Galifianakis
That's not the job of a comedian. You are to challenge. You are to make uncomfortable. You're not to sit there and fake laugh. That is not the job of the court jester.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Period. So there is a difference. People were actually somebody yesterday was talking to me about that, about, you know, political influence through comedy and all that stuff. I'm more interested in the comedy first.
Conan O'Brien
Me too.
Zach Galifianakis
You know.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
No, I mean, whatever their, Whatever their motive is, fine. But you. But. But the comedy has to come first. I remember when I interviewed Hillary Clinton and I could tell she didn't want to be there. And I totally get that. I get it. But before we had set that whole thing up, they. They wrote back, well, you can't bring up those emails. And I go, well, we don't have to do the interview. I totally. That's fine. We won't do it. When you tell powerful people, no, it's crazy. They were like, okay, we'll do it. Well, you can ask, because it's not that important to me to do it the way they want to do it. You have to. If you're gonna come in a comedy, you gotta do the way we want to do it.
Conan O'Brien
Also, I see this all the time, and I've seen it for years and years and years and years. People not understanding that if they go to the supposedly vulnerable place and have a sense of humor about it, it is magical for them. People see they have a sense of humor. They see that they can take a joke. I mean, no one walked away from your interview with Obama and thought, wow, you really showed him. He got to be hilarious. He sat there and entered your world of being intentionally ignorant about who he is, what he does, cutting him off, being insanely rude, and gave it back to you in equal measure. And you looked at it and you said, this is a great piece of comedy. And I know it reflects well back on the president. And our current president would do well to understand that. To understand that, you know, if he let himself be the butt of the joke, it's impossible. It's humanizing. I know it is impossible.
Zach Galifianakis
You wouldn't do it with him.
Conan O'Brien
It wouldn't work.
Zach Galifianakis
No, it wouldn't work.
Conan O'Brien
I'm just saying in an alternate universe, if we're talking about a different human being, they would see that there's this misconception that, oh, the media just wants to go after conservatives, and they don't understand that everyone benefits when they laugh at themselves.
Zach Galifianakis
That's right.
Conan O'Brien
Period.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
Everyone wins. Yes. If you laugh at yourself, it humanizes you. And, like, pheromones are released and humans think, that's a good human who. And when you refuse to let that happen, that's not projecting strength, it's projecting weakness.
Zach Galifianakis
I agree 100%. There's also the math of comedy to me sometimes where the punching down that the right seems to do something. And I don't want to get political here, but that's not as funny to me as taking on the powerful. Like, the math of it doesn't work for me, like, to take on some marginalized people, make fun of that. Listen, I'm all for humor. I can defend it, but that mathematically. So that's why you don't see a lot of comedy that comes out of the, like, the right. I mean, the right. You just. It's hard to do. I don't. I'm not saying suggest that. You cannot. It's just difficult to do because of the dynamics.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Greg Gutfeld, what a hilarious guy.
Conan O'Brien
You got him. I. I don't know if they'll show up to work again. I always love imagining these people being completely unhinged by a comment on a podcast or, you know, someone did a sketch about them on SNL and they're just completely unhinged. I'm sure they can no longer go.
Zach Galifianakis
That's all for clicks, though. You know what I mean? It's.
Conan O'Brien
It's fake. Well, that's boring. The whole.
Zach Galifianakis
The whole Everyone commenting on everything. Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And everyone has to wait. Did Sabrina Carpenter just slightly misspeak at a performance at Coachella? Or can we make that into something? Yes, we can. And then she'll apologize. And I think she's a fantastic performer. She makes a lot of people happy. I actually don't think she did anything wrong. She couldn't hear what the person in the audience was saying. There was no harm, no foul here, but people got a 24 hour news cycle out of it. And it's just.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, it's stupid strange. You know, the other thought of that too is it's interesting. People from the right or whatever you want to say, they're always like, shut up, Entertainers. You're just entertainers. And I kind of get that because I'm from the south and, you know, but I always think, yeah, but you guys say that to us entertainers, but you elect the entertainers.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Clint Eastwood, Donald Trump, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Fred Thompson, Gopher from the Love Boat. I mean, I could go on.
Conan O'Brien
His name's Fred Grandy.
Zach Galifianakis
I could go on and on. Sonny Bono. I mean, it goes on and on. So it's always interesting to me that they point that out, but then they fall. Then they're the ones that hire or elect the entertainers.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
I think even more so than the other side. So I don't know. It's very, very odd, all of it. But it was a good run.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, no.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, we're wrapping it up.
Sona Movsesian
Are we calling it.
Conan O'Brien
We're calling it. Well, 250 is a good time to call it, you know.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, yes, 250. 200. I don't feel any. Is Anybody celebrating?
Conan O'Brien
I think they're going. They're gonna. Well, there's plans to build giant monuments. I think the triumphal arch was going to be for the 250th, I think.
Sona Movsesian
Okay, good.
Conan O'Brien
We just got to get that thing built.
Zach Galifianakis
This is going to sound controversial and I don't want to. When Trump did that Jesus thing, I was the turning point for me. I was like, I kind of like him.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, like him?
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, you okay?
Zach Galifianakis
What do you think? Am I off?
Sona Movsesian
No, he wasn't. Jesus. He was a doctor.
Conan O'Brien
Well, he. Yeah, his excuse was I was a doctor who wears a robe and a red sash and has like a halo light behind us.
Sona Movsesian
He was a Red crosswalker.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, man. He's a very good nightclub comic. You know what? I. I was watching your gardening show and I want to mention this. Cause it's called this is a Gardening show and one of the. Like that title. Yeah, he was up all night thinking of that title.
Zach Galifianakis
And actually we spent about 400 titles back and forth.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, really?
Zach Galifianakis
Between two farms. I mean, it was like, you know, all these play on words. It was so. So then the producer emails me and goes, the first thing you say is, this is a gardening show.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Why don't we just call it. I said, okay, but yeah, that's how we get to the title.
Conan O'Brien
Well, you know what I love, because I've known for years that you hang out on Vancouver island and then to get to see you in your habitat is very cool. I mean, first of all, it's beautiful. But getting to see you, I knew that you were a very sort of an outdoorsy guy. I didn't know specifically how important gardening was to you. The show is really funny. And you get to be you, obviously. Cause you are you. And there's no fixing that now. But the. But just getting to see you in that world, I totally get it. You like to get up in the morning and tend to plants.
Zach Galifianakis
I love it. It's strange how much. I mean, I've always been a hobby. It's been my hobby, I guess, for 20 plus years. But now that I have some space, I've been building a garden and I just do. I mean, I have a hundred little pumpkin seedlings in my greenhouse right now that when I get back to Canada, I'll put in the ground and that'll probably produce 200 pumpkins for the year. That kind of stuff. I can't tell you how much I love it. It's a feeling that I feel like as humans, it's part of us, but we got away from it.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Because technology and convenience has overtaken everything we're pushing. Buttons is soulless. There's nothing there for me. And I wanted to do this show for several reasons. One, when you watch documentaries about where we are, climate wise, you hear there's 64 harvests left. Okay, maybe that's not true. But what if it is?
Conan O'Brien
Right?
Zach Galifianakis
These are scientists that are saying this, 64 harvests left. So I see some people acting like, oh, my God, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? And then I see some people don't care. So I don't know. I'm just going to go with what my gut feeling is, which is maybe kids need to know this stuff.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
Wait till the Russians shoot down the satellites. Motherfucker. It's just a quote from the South. I heard recently that. I was like, yeah, I believe you. I actually believe that. That one I believe and think about that. Yeah, right. So all of the. I feel like the safety might not be there for the next generation. So I'm. And this is not an altruistic thing I'm trying to say, it's just a practical thing. Our food, even if nothing happens, even, let's say, everything stays normal. Well, our food and where we get it and what we know about it is we don't have a relationship with food. A lot of us don't.
Conan O'Brien
Right, Right. You think about it, birth, death, food and where it's coming from. We're primal parts of our existence for so long. I mean, they're just printed into our DNA as we evolve. And then within the last few generations, we've completely removed ourselves from it. And I'm going to be completely honest with you. Like, I know nothing about gardening. I know nothing about where my food comes from. I say to David, I want to get that. And you were like, all right. And you get it, and it comes and I shove it in my face really quickly and with great hate and. But it's same thing about death. Like, we're not. We're not. People used to live and die in their home, and people used to be there for it, and now everything's kind of farmed out. So, yeah, it's.
Zach Galifianakis
But it's a medicine, too. It's not just. It's just not.
Conan O'Brien
It's not altruistic. You do it for yourself.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes, absolutely. I mean, look, I'm a little chubby guy, but I love eating fresh vegetables and fruits out of the garden. It's like. It's It's a high for me, it just is. So there's a. There's many elements to it, but I'm saying it's a medicine to be in the garden. Yeah, it's healthy to be.
Conan O'Brien
It's also, when you talk about. You've spoken about this for a while and you mentioned it today, the kind of allergic reaction you have to the bullshittery of show business. And in some of it, there's obviously great parts of it, and then there's parts of it which can actually feel like a toxin.
Zach Galifianakis
It's poison and honey.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I felt this. I got a chance. Danny Harrison, George's son, invited me to come see George's home, Friar Park. And I went. And so much of it are George Harrison's were his gardens where he grew things. And I've seen footage of him in various documentaries just tending to his gardens and tending to his sunflowers and tending to the things he was growing. And I thought, oh. And you know, he. Danny said, yeah, he told him once, you know, Jenny said, oh, let's go into town. Let's leave Friar park and go into town. And his father said, why would we do that? Why would we go out there? It's insane out there. If you look at all the footage of his life in the 60s and 70s, it was screaming and madness. This was the antidote.
Zach Galifianakis
Interesting.
Conan O'Brien
And I think you've experienced being in the nose cone of the rocket, and there are people who are making a living pretending to be you, hanging outside of Planet Hollywood that, you know, that's. And like, we gotta get us a Zach Galifianakis for the party. I got one. I got one too. Well, bring them both, you know, so it's such a nice antidote to find those places where you can grow apples.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I also think it's possible in the cities. I mean, when you guys all leave today, I want you to pay attention to how much concrete is around you versus greenery. Just think about it. It's crazy. It's really crazy. I mean, I think humans biggest mistake was fighting nature instead of working. We're gonna conquer it. Well, no, you're not. No, you're not. It's gonna win, and it looks like it's definitely gonna win. So you have to respect it and honor it. If there's a God that made all this stuff, why not respect it? And the other, the things that this God has made, that's coming from someone that has no idea if there's a God or not. But if there is, why is it the simplest thing to respect the earth and the humans and the animals on it. Other than that, what is there? Yeah, I mean this where humans are going with AI. I mean, I guess I don't know if I'm old fashioned or maybe it's because I'm 56 now, but I think this whole AI thing and I don't mean for medicine, it's got a lot of great things. Otherwise though, I think it's another like biblical. In the biblical term, biting the apple again. I just am very afraid of it. The dudes that are designing it, there's a real problem because these dudes, how do I say it? They have math minds. They have math minds. You know what I mean? They have math minds and that's good. But there's very little wisdom coming out of that pocket of the world. Almost none. And we're just running, all of us are running in that direction. The media loves AI. The media loves social media because it causes more this. Yeah, I love when cnn they'll have a reporter on but they'll do a report on social media and how bad it is for someone. And then after the report Jake Tapper gets on and go follow me on Twitter. It's asinine. Have you no self reflection? Well, even how we communicate through text, there's not a sarcastic font. Right. And people are not good enough writers to do it through text. As a comedian to get back. LOL is really diminishing returns. So I think the way we have let robots do this for us has also made us a little bit off. I just do. I worry about the lack of human connection with that stuff and maybe it just is not as needed as we think it is. I don't know. I mean, I really don't know. But this world, this tech stuff has always, I've always thought about, I've always worried about it especially when social media came about and MySpace and all this. When it was done, you could do it anonymously. That's a weird start for anything. So the weirdos running this thing and good weirdos, I don't mean they're all bad weirdos. We need to something something. There needs to be a guardrail. And I think politically nothing changes in the state states until they regulate the Internet.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, I do think not.
Zach Galifianakis
So we can sit here and talk. Good luck. It could work for both sides, right? It just depends on who's going to control it, the, the messaging. But you're. I see how people scroll on planes. I'm like, that's how people get Their new we're screwed.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah. I do think that if you look at the history of huge technological advances, including like the printing press, you know, and how that revolutionized things in the early days, it's rough going when people are handed a brand new superpower and we are at the beginning of this. And I do think if we survive it, there will be guardrails, there will be people that say, oh no, you can't have a kid, can't have a tablet. We've figured it out. They can't have it till they're 14 and that's a law, you know, or you can't.
Zach Galifianakis
It's like how a city, like a city can be built and there's like, like crap in the streets. The sewage is all wrong. And then as it ages, they fix the problem.
Conan O'Brien
No, we're at the okay corral phase where drunks are punching each other through the swinging doors of the bar and landing in the mud. People are shooting their guns in the air, going knee haw. That's where we are.
Zach Galifianakis
But you think it's going to need a regulation to get to there. Do you think the government.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, yeah, I think it's. And I think it's going.
Zach Galifianakis
They're not going to do it.
Conan O'Brien
But you know what it does, it comes through just this hard experience. And humans do. If they put their hand on the stove enough times, they learn not to. We need a rule about putting our hands on the stove.
Zach Galifianakis
I hope you're right.
Conan O'Brien
There's an addiction.
Zach Galifianakis
There's an addiction. There's an addiction thing here too. That we have it. That's the other thing, is the addiction part. And that addiction is designed. Listen, you read the, read the. Have you read the Facebook whistleblower book?
Conan O'Brien
No, did not.
Zach Galifianakis
You need her. It's unreal. I read it twice. It's fascinating. So they know that they're making it addictive. So that's the problem, I think maybe with the comparing it to the old technology. Sure, you're right. I think the printing press, of course it changed the world. Technology is what changes humans the most. Political correctness, for example, has always been in comedy. For the last 30 years, it just has. The difference is the technology. The audience talks back now. And comedians, you gotta be okay with it. That's the only thing that's changed. Not political correct. That did not for sure. It happened many, many years ago. But what really changed is if someone comes and sees you live and they don't like it and you've said something, they're going to either videotape it or get it. So it's weird. It's all very strange. But then I see people on their computers all the time and they never do anything else. My mind goes, well, when the end of the world comes, they're the veal.
Conan O'Brien
Well, you know what? It's soft.
Zach Galifianakis
Soft meat.
Conan O'Brien
It's a soft meat, so we might need them.
Zach Galifianakis
No, we're gonna eat all the fields up in Silicon Valley. We're coming to eat you, babies.
Conan O'Brien
The way you describe it, we're gonna eat very well. I mean, I want this to happen sooner rather than later. Just you and I.
Zach Galifianakis
But also, we're humans. We're animals, Right. Like, we need to move and think and talk and blah, blah, blah. This is. It's too much.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
It's making people nuts. It just is. Well, I think it's making people mentally do. I think it's making people mental.
Conan O'Brien
I mean, I do things now where I like Brick, my phone. Well, there actually is a device called the Brick where you can turn off a bunch of apps so that in order to go turn them back on, it's called the Brick. And I use that all the time now.
Zach Galifianakis
Do you have email on your phone?
Conan O'Brien
I do.
Zach Galifianakis
Take it off.
Conan O'Brien
It's too late.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, no, you can take it off. No, I never. I can't imagine having an email on my phone. It's so, like. That's asinine to me.
Conan O'Brien
What about. And you're including text, too? No, text.
Zach Galifianakis
If I knew how to get rid of text, I would. I don't know how to get rid of it. We're in a time of over communication. Right. So my brother.
Conan O'Brien
He says on a podcast.
Zach Galifianakis
My brother. Well, exactly. But my brother's, like, texting me over Christmas. Got those paper towels you asked for. I don't need you to text me that you got them. I don't need that update. It's insanity.
Conan O'Brien
You know, I've nast too, is that someone will text you, like, how's it going? And if you don't text them, it's the person who maybe 20 minutes went by, and they're like, what the fuck? You alive? You're like, I was. It was three in the morning. What's going on? Because they're so used to getting an immediate dopamine hit.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
That they forget they're talking to someone who isn't walking around looking at their phone all the time.
Zach Galifianakis
I see.
Conan O'Brien
So I get a lot of my texts are, did you die? Or something? And it's like, well, no, I Mean,
Zach Galifianakis
I see teenagers on planes and the mental illness that they're doing with their faces. Like, changing it for three hours staring at a phone. You know, you're supposed to be bored. You're supposed to be. It's good for the brain.
Conan O'Brien
Well, it's actually. And really good. I remember saying this when my kids were little. We gotta keep the boring parts. Because I remember when I was. I would get so bored when I was a kid. And that's when my. You know, we weren't allowed to watch TV if there was school the next day, which meant most of the week we had none of this technology. And that's when my mind started to do weird things. And that's how I make my living now. So you gotta.
Zach Galifianakis
God, I thought this was gonna turn into a masturbation story.
Sona Movsesian
I think we all did.
Conan O'Brien
That's what it.
Zach Galifianakis
Just get the air out of the room. The story's not done.
Conan O'Brien
That's what I was. You cut me off.
Zach Galifianakis
You're right. I wish somebody had.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
That is what I was getting to my mind.
Zach Galifianakis
Started doing weird.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
And my hand.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Sona Movsesian
Come on.
Conan O'Brien
And then I said, and that's how I make my living.
Zach Galifianakis
And then I became a writer.
Conan O'Brien
I became a professional masturbator at the circus.
Sona Movsesian
Yes.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. What you say to me? No, nothing.
Conan O'Brien
You just accuse me of murder.
Zach Galifianakis
No, no. I was going to say, is there a comp. Is there. I don't know. Never mind. I don't want it to be in the.
Sona Movsesian
Is there a masturbator at the like.
Zach Galifianakis
No. Is there. Is there masturbation competitions?
Sona Movsesian
I bet there is.
Conan O'Brien
I hope so.
Zach Galifianakis
Eduardo.
Sona Movsesian
I bet there is.
Conan O'Brien
I'm not looking this one up. No, he just meant Eduardo.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
He didn't even know you had a computer theater.
Zach Galifianakis
What's going on this week?
Conan O'Brien
Let's just say Eduardo is very skilled. It is so lovely to talk to you. And you. You really are a remarkable individual. I wish we could all be more like you and I. Really.
Zach Galifianakis
So you got my text?
Conan O'Brien
I did. I just read exactly what you wrote.
Zach Galifianakis
Thank you very much.
Conan O'Brien
I read exactly what you texted.
Zach Galifianakis
That in there.
Conan O'Brien
And a great lover.
Sona Movsesian
What the fuck is this?
Conan O'Brien
You misspelled lover.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
Two V's.
Zach Galifianakis
Always.
Conan O'Brien
I love. I've been. I checked out. This is a gardening show. I really like it. I especially love when you incorporate kids in it and you're talking to them. You're so.
Zach Galifianakis
It's the easiest thing.
Conan O'Brien
I know. It'd be so funny doing it. So fun to do it. And also, you're in a series, the Audacity, which is getting raves. So congrats to you. That's on amc. And you. I mean, anytime you're in town, you want to come by and talk about anything. Tomorrow's not good for me.
Zach Galifianakis
Okay. The next day. No, I'm in Saturday.
Conan O'Brien
Starting in six years from now is what I meant.
Zach Galifianakis
Did you end up going to Greece for your.
Conan O'Brien
No, we haven't gone to Greece yet for the travel show. But I do want to go there.
Zach Galifianakis
It's the best.
Conan O'Brien
Would you go with me? If I went, I would pay for half of it.
Zach Galifianakis
Love to go, but I might take my gardening show there.
Conan O'Brien
Okay.
Zach Galifianakis
Next time. But if you do go, please call me because I can point you in. Like, I have first cousins that are still there, so I can point. They can.
Conan O'Brien
You should check out the Parthenon. You know, thanks a lot.
Zach Galifianakis
No, they were going to take you to the Hard Rock in Athens,
Conan O'Brien
and I just.
Zach Galifianakis
I hope there's not a Hard Rock Cafe in Athens.
Conan O'Brien
You know, there is. They're better.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't think.
Conan O'Brien
No, the Greek has to be.
Zach Galifianakis
The Greeks are not. They're not. They're not capitalists that way.
Conan O'Brien
Good.
Zach Galifianakis
They're not good. They actually. During the European Union, they got really real. They got really hurt.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
By Northern Europe.
Conan O'Brien
I've never been to Greece in my life, and I would love to go there.
Zach Galifianakis
That's the best. They know how to live. They know how to live.
Conan O'Brien
And so do you.
Zach Galifianakis
That's right.
Conan O'Brien
And so do you. Zach Galifianakis. Thank you for being here. I treasure you. I really do. Those aren't cheap. Could you put it back?
Zach Galifianakis
No, I'll put. There's a.
Conan O'Brien
So you just grab one of our.
Zach Galifianakis
By the way, I was asking the.
Conan O'Brien
Clean.
Zach Galifianakis
There's a comment box here, right?
Conan O'Brien
We took it down just for you. Okay, well, put it back.
Zach Galifianakis
The minute you're gone, I'll take it to Twitter.
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Zach Galifianakis
No, sorry. I do basements, connecting homeowners with skilled
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Find pros for all your home projects@angie.com. Okay, look, there's some bad blood out here. We have to take care of this. Yes, I brought up, Sona, that I do a lot of favors for you. I mean, I do a lot of favors for everybody, but you, you get more than your share.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, my God.
Conan O'Brien
Let's revisit this topic. Okay.
Zach Galifianakis
Ugh.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
Sona, you know I love you, I adore you, you're the best. But you're. You're just this bloodsucker. Oh, my God, it's draining me dry.
Sona Movsesian
You are awful. You're awful. You're awful.
Conan O'Brien
Are we getting content or not?
Sona Movsesian
We are, but you know what? Every clueless gamer. Do you take that game home with you?
Conan O'Brien
Oh, I would say no, actually. Maybe only like, half the time. Yeah, 85%.
Sona Movsesian
85% of the time. When you do a clueless gamer for a cool game, you get the game. How is he a favor? You get some benefit out of it. That's not direct. That's what I'm saying. We all get a lot of fun stuff from this job.
Conan O'Brien
All I'm going to say is he
Zach Galifianakis
does a lot of favors for you,
Conan O'Brien
but you do the greatest.
Zach Galifianakis
But you.
Conan O'Brien
But you. But you. But you do the greatest favor for him.
Zach Galifianakis
You make him cool.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, that's the greatest favor you're doing?
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know.
Sona Movsesian
Am I doing that?
Zach Galifianakis
You do.
Conan O'Brien
You do. Yeah, I think. No, people do get excited. You're a cool person. And you. Me?
Zach Galifianakis
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
I guess I'm cool. And that I pop Aleve every now and then. I always drink a lot of water with it. You gotta make sure you flush out the system. And that's a recommendation that's on the bottle. But.
Sona Movsesian
Wow.
Conan O'Brien
No, but I mean, between my Aleve use and your coolness factor, I think we make a good duo.
Sona Movsesian
I don't think they're favors. I think you are paying me back.
Conan O'Brien
What? Oh, yeah.
Sona Movsesian
For all the.
Conan O'Brien
So that means I don't have to pay you financially?
Sona Movsesian
No, you should still do that. But I also. I. I don't know, for something.
Conan O'Brien
You know what? I don't resent these favors for you. I like doing it. And I will say, look, I needed a segment, so I came out swinging.
Sona Movsesian
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
And it worked because you got really mad. And also, is there some truth in it? Probably, because in most of my bits, there's a little bit of truth. This is my nightmare, and I do a lot of favors for people.
Zach Galifianakis
You do.
Conan O'Brien
We have to do a favor for Sona today, for instance, at the end of this. Oh, is that true? Yeah. What's happening today? We have to.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't want to rattle.
Conan O'Brien
No, no, we get to. That's right. We get to do a favor for some. You know that I like doing things for the Armenian community. You know, I like doing that.
Sona Movsesian
They're the ones. You took me to Armenia in 2015.
Conan O'Brien
I tried to leave you there. You know, that was the plan. The plan was to leave you there. And then I was like, shut the door. Shut the door. And the pilot shut the. You didn't shut the door fast enough. And you squirted into the plane, and you were like, we're headed back. But the plan was to leave you there.
Sona Movsesian
Well, thank you for doing that. But you shone a light on my beautiful homeland, and since then, you've been kind of an honorary Armenian. They're very excited.
Conan O'Brien
You know what I will say, Armenian people always very happy to see me.
Sona Movsesian
Yes.
Conan O'Brien
And they say. And I say, inch Pasek. And then they say, la Vem. And we have, like, a nice thing going.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
So that's always nice.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I meet a lot of them in steam rooms. I don't know what that's all about. Several times I've been in a sauna or a steam room, and the naked men in there have been Armenian, and we have a nice chat about Armenia.
Sona Movsesian
Oh. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's a nice. See, that's the thing. If you hadn't taken me to Armenia, I don't think you would have been getting as many asks. And I filter a lot, but there are some that I.
Conan O'Brien
And we're doing one today, which is important.
Sona Movsesian
We're doing one today, and it's because
Conan O'Brien
it's an important event. What is it?
Sona Movsesian
It's the Armenian Heritage Walk Gala in Philadelphia, and I'm emceeing it.
Conan O'Brien
And how do you emcee a gala? Oh, you're going to.
Sona Movsesian
I'm going to Philadelphia.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, I see. There's a benefit, and you're going to be up there saying, all right, our next auction item, or that kind of thing.
Sona Movsesian
No, no. It's going to be like honoring people who help them do it. It's this. It's this permanent installation by the Philadelphia Museum.
Conan O'Brien
You have jokes written. I'M not you. I don't.
Sona Movsesian
I don't.
Conan O'Brien
We know that, but I mean, what about.
Sona Movsesian
The bar is really low, but you
Conan O'Brien
got to have some material. You can't. You can't MC a gala and not have material.
Sona Movsesian
That's true.
Conan O'Brien
What kind of jokes do they like? I haven't.
Narrator/Advertiser
I haven't written anything yet.
Conan O'Brien
When is it? Soon, Right? It's like really soon. Okay. You have to write material. Maybe I would help you another favor, but let's.
Sona Movsesian
You can't offer to do something and then say you're doing me a favor.
Conan O'Brien
I can say yes to things and then resent them, because that is my true hobby that you are. I say yes to stuff and then I resent it. You know, we got to think of some jokes, you know, about.
Sona Movsesian
I have some.
Conan O'Brien
Like, what about pomegranates and what is it about?
Sona Movsesian
I don't want to tell you. I'm nervous.
Conan O'Brien
Let's hear it.
Sona Movsesian
I think. Well, one of the honorees. No, this is stupid.
Conan O'Brien
Come on. Yes. No, we know. We have to now.
Zach Galifianakis
This is Judgment Free Zones.
Conan O'Brien
We have to.
Sona Movsesian
One of the honorees is an Armenian man who's an astronaut. And so I'm going to say, you know, within the last six months, we've had one of the greatest moments in space when Katy Perry went up for 10 minutes.
Conan O'Brien
That's a good joke.
Sona Movsesian
It's a misdirect.
Conan O'Brien
That's a good joke.
Sona Movsesian
It's a misdirection. That's a good job because everyone's gonna think I'm talking about.
Conan O'Brien
Are you explaining to me how a misdirect works?
Sona Movsesian
Yes. This is what comedy is. Conan o'. Brien.
Conan O'Brien
No, but you know what? I think that's a funny joke.
Sona Movsesian
Okay.
Conan O'Brien
You know what's another good joke? Ian is added to every Armenian name, right?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
So you could say there's some other great celebrities who are Armenian. Katy Perryan, you know, Tom Cruiseian, John Travoltian.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah. Okay.
Conan O'Brien
You know what I mean?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
I mean, this is a good Sabrina Carpenter, Ian. I mean, you know, you could go into that whole thing, okay. And you could list a whole bunch of celebrities, real names, before they shorten them. You know what I'm saying?
Sona Movsesian
Yeah. Okay. I like that.
Conan O'Brien
Conan o'. Brien, not so good.
Sona Movsesian
It didn't roll off the tongue. And also, there's already a lot going
Conan O'Brien
on with your jokes about some of the other. They're true. Famous like Dr. Kovorkian.
Zach Galifianakis
Armenian.
Sona Movsesian
Well, there's six honorees. Well, I'm coming up with bits for each one.
Conan O'Brien
Hey, I'm going to kill it at this Armenian gala, even more than your previous host, Dr. Kavork.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, God.
Zach Galifianakis
Right?
Sona Movsesian
God, yeah, Conan.
Conan O'Brien
That's a good joke. He killed people.
Sona Movsesian
I know, I know.
Conan O'Brien
Yeah, he's the pride of the Armenian people.
Sona Movsesian
Don't say that.
Conan O'Brien
Did he drive around in a van and do it? I forget how he did it.
Sona Movsesian
You know what? Nowadays, euthanasia is not looked at as poorly as it was before. He was a.
Conan O'Brien
Well, his name was Dr. Death and he drove around in a van. But, yeah, you're right.
Sona Movsesian
He was a pioneer.
Conan O'Brien
No, ending people's lives is all cool now.
Sona Movsesian
They wanted to end them. They were all. Weren't they all terminally ill. All right,
Conan O'Brien
you're taking us down a dark road. I'm gonna kill it up here. I'm gonna be Armenian host who kills it the fastest since Dr. Kavorkian. That's funny. That's a good joke.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, God.
Conan O'Brien
And then you say, by the way, other, you know, famous. And then it's Dr. Perry. You know what I mean? You know, the singer Sia.
Zach Galifianakis
Sia. C.N.
Conan O'Brien
is a good one. I mean, we're coming up with good material right here. You're gonna kill at this thing.
Sona Movsesian
I know.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, I could come out as a character.
Sona Movsesian
What?
Conan O'Brien
Yes, I could be a character. I could come out, like, as an old Armenian lady, and then, you know, and I do a character.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, that won't be offensive at all. No, let me hear your old Armenian lady.
Conan O'Brien
Oh, hello. It's nice to be here. I dried the apricots and flattened them, and now we're eating them.
Sona Movsesian
I knew it was going to be
Conan O'Brien
whatever and it would kill.
Sona Movsesian
Yeah.
Conan O'Brien
And guess what? I'm going to fly out. I'm going to write this material, and I'm going to do this on the. On the gala, and then I. I'm really going to resent you and say it was a failure. Those who are given much are expected to give much. And it's clear that I've been gifted with some divine powers. And so I must spend my time on this earth doing favors for Sonam of Sestian. I think that's the rule here. But you know I love you. You know I care about you.
Sona Movsesian
Do you?
Conan O'Brien
Is a bit. I do.
Sona Movsesian
Oh, that's nice. Well, thank you. I love you, too, as a bit.
Conan O'Brien
Love you a bit. Bye.
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Oh no.
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Episode: Zach Galifianakis Returns
Date: May 4, 2026
Host: Conan O’Brien, with Sona Movsesian
Guest: Zach Galifianakis
In this highly anticipated return, comedian and actor Zach Galifianakis joins Conan O'Brien and Sona Movsesian for a freewheeling, playfully confrontational, and ultimately heartfelt conversation. The episode explores friendship, the surrealities of fame, the value of humility, and the role of comedy in a volatile world. Tangents abound—from stories of humiliating early jobs to the perils of technology—while Zach’s new TV projects and Conan’s penchant for banter keep the tone lively and unpredictable.
[02:05–06:30]
Notable Quote:
"What if I get you a doormat and instead of saying welcome, it's just my face because you walk all over it all the time anyway."
— Conan O'Brien [02:33]
[06:30–08:59]
Notable Quote:
"What would you like one to do when you enter the room? Jump up? No, it seems insincere."
— Zach Galifianakis [07:11]
[08:59–14:00]
Notable Quotes:
"No one ever asked me any questions until I was in a movie with a monkey."
— Zach Galifianakis [10:50]
"It just magnifies things. So if you're insecure, you will become more insecure. If you tend to be angry, you'll become a rageaholic."
— Conan O’Brien [13:23]
[14:00–20:00]
Notable Moment:
Zach shares a story about his roommate losing $1,000 at the mafia-owned club and equating it to "worse than Bosnia." [17:11]
[21:08–24:04]
Notable Quote:
"I remember I wrote a sketch and ... you could only hear the air conditioner in the room."
— Zach Galifianakis [22:06]
[31:32–37:54]
Notable Quotes:
"You are to challenge. You are to make uncomfortable. You're not to sit there and fake laugh."
— Zach Galifianakis [32:36]
"If you laugh at yourself, it humanizes you ... when you refuse ... that's not projecting strength, it's projecting weakness."
— Conan O'Brien [34:58]
[39:05–44:53]
Notable Quotes:
"I have a hundred little pumpkin seedlings in my greenhouse right now that when I get back ... I'll put in the ground."
— Zach Galifianakis [40:07]
"Our food ... we don't have a relationship with food. A lot of us don't."
— Zach Galifianakis [41:32]
[44:53–53:54]
Notable Exchange:
"We're in a time of over-communication."
— Zach Galifianakis [51:53]
"I remember when I was ... so bored when I was a kid. And that's when my mind started to do weird things. And that's how I make my living now."
— Conan O'Brien [52:59]
[54:28–56:26]
[57:45–65:45]
Notable Quotes:
"You know what? I don't resent these favors for you. I like doing it. ... And also, is there some truth in it? Probably."
— Conan O'Brien [59:44]
"You make him cool."
— Zach Galifianakis to Sona [58:56]
Conan on Showbiz Favors:
"Do you see me and just see a doormat? Is that what you see?" [02:32]
Zach on Sudden Fame:
"No one ever asked me any questions until I was in a movie with a monkey." [10:50]
Conan on Success Magnifying Traits:
"It's a magnifying lens. ... If you're insecure, you will become more insecure." [13:23]
Zach on Comedy’s Job:
"You are to challenge. You are to make uncomfortable. You're not to sit there and fake laugh. That is not the job of the court jester." [32:36]
Conan on Political Comedy:
"Everyone wins ... If you laugh at yourself, it humanizes you." [34:53]
Zach on Gardening:
"It's a medicine to be in the garden. Yeah, it's healthy." [43:17]
Conan on Tech Overload:
"We're in a time of over communication. ... My brother's, like, texting me over Christmas: Got those paper towels you asked for. I don't need you to text me that you got them." [52:01]
Sona, Receiving Material Help:
"You can't offer to do something and then say you're doing me a favor." [62:03]
This episode stands out for its blend of rapid-fire comedy, sincere reflection, and the easy chemistry between Zach Galifianakis and Conan O'Brien. Listeners are treated to stories of struggle, philosophical musings on technology and fame, and a vivid look at how comedians process the world—and why gardening might be the best antidote to stardom.
For fans of comedy, reflection, and the delightfully absurd, this is a must-listen episode.