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Foreign. Welcome to day 11. It's controller controllables live at Wimbledon brought to you by Novellas. And yeah we here we are again another day. We're through now to to the finals on the women's singles and men's double side with semi finals tomorrow, men's singles and women's doubles. Mixed doubles has just finished. I'm slightly late because of that. I just wanted to watch and the emotions actually of the speeches at the end. So a big shout out to Aravelo and Ostapenko and Aravelo was such, I mean he's just like if you want to watch one tennis player in the world, watch Aravello. He, he epitomizes unconditional effort and attitude and he's just had his little boy on court. You see the emotion, you know of them winning if you them winning that event and Nostapeno won the singles at French Open and once again just shows what just the best sport in the world that we have and also the meritocracy on it because you're getting into the tournament on your own, right? You know and there's a space for doubles, there's a space for mixed doubles and a big, big well done to to those guys. We as ever will have the major moments brought to you by Soto Tennis Academy of the day. I kind of jumped ahead with one there but it's just happen just now so I wanted to get that one out there. We'll then have our tennis athlete player of the day. We're then a little bit different tonight. We're going to go with Dear Dan next and then we'll bring in our special guest on the evening which is which is going to be Gordon Reed. Gordon Reed is the first ever Wimbledon wheelchair winner, you know at Wimbledon back in 2016. He went through today with with Alfie Ewart into the wheelchair final of Double Samora which will be on number one. So a real privilege to have Gordon on tonight. But to get started let's start off with our major moments of the day and where better to start than than Czech mate, I guess you know the, the first ever all Czech Wimbledon woman singles final in the Open era, the first all country major final at Wimbledon since the Williams sisters back in 2017 and also a guaranteed first time Grand Slam champion. It's the 10th different women's ch. Wimbledon champion in the last 10 years and it's the third Czech women's Wimbledon champion in four years. We had von Drusova winning in 23. We had Kova winning in 2024 and we are going to have either Carolina Mukova or we're going to have Linda Noskova as our champions on Saturday. I don't think many people would have picked it at the start. You know, we've been saying for years Mova is one of the best if not top three player in the world, but can she stay healthy? You know, she didn't have a head to head record to be proud of against Coco Golf. It wasn't a great matchup is what everyone thought. But she started on fire today. Six two, first set. And then Coco got doing what she does, you know, she, she clawed her way back, won the second set, six one and then there was an absolute epic third set. And if you had the privilege of watching that and that tie break, both players felt the nerves, both players had their opportunities. Coco Goff had her match point at 9, 8 and the tie break. Forehand went for the drop shot. A little bit of a brain fart. Nerves do get the best better of people, even these best players in the world. We then had a 10, 9 point where Karenina McKova came forward, knocked a forehand volley away, we thought and then she slipped and then Coco passed her 10 all and then Coco slipped a little bit at 10 all. But Corva played a great point and then the finally the match finished 12, 10, 2 hours 35 minutes and yeah, absolutely fantastic this season you don't want to be losing the first set to McCorva. That's 28 and all she is on the year when she wins the first set, she's 11 and one on grass. She won bad Homborg last week and it is the first time the Coco Gauffs ever lost a match having had match point in a pro career. So really, really interesting final, you know, if we take Lukova, she took Krychakova out, she took out four time major champion Naomi Osaka and then Coco G. So she's been beating all the major champions and now she has her, her fellow countrywoman, younger fellow countrywoman. It's hard to believe. Linda noskova is only 21 years old, you know, only turned 21. We've been talking about her for years. She doesn't quite get the same hype as Marta Kostuk's had over over the last few weeks, you know, and she's actually younger than her, you know, and she took her out with real, not really, not a lot of fuss today. Six, four, six four, ten and one on the grass courtesies and she won the 500 in Berlin, beating Jasper Guru in the final. So two informed players that got matches under their belt on the grass going into the event, which is very interesting. And she actually leads the WTA Tour on grass over the last two seasons, winning 18 matches. So grass court seemed to suit her. It's a first career Grand Slam semi final. So certainly a first career semi final win and a first career Grand Slam final. And yeah, beat Marta Kostc, who was, who was absolutely one of the informed players, had won 21 out of her last 22 matches dating back to April 14, and Kostyk one earlier in the year in Madrid. So well done. To Linda Noskova, who is also our tennis athlete player of the day. And I don't think anyone can, can blame our producer for picking that player of the day today. 21 years old, know she said after the match. I was a little nervous before the match. Usually when it's really, really important for me, I'm putting a little bit of pressure on myself and that's when I play my best. Anyone watches Noskova play, it does look kind of effortless. She plays doubles every week. I see her a lot. I've scouted her a lot. And you kind of think, is she bothered? You know, but she is. And it's just, it's part of her vibe. She's, she's an incredible tennis player and putting together a great career. I don't know what she goes to in the rankings, but I know she was number nine before. Before and making a real claim, as is Marta Kostuk to be in the top eight. WTF finals at the end of the year, which also hot news this week, has moved to Palm Springs. It's been announced to not go into Riyadh with the, the issues of the world right now in that part of that region of the world. It has been moved to Indian Wells in November. So maybe we'll see both of those players and maybe we'll see McOva as well. We'll certainly see whoever wins the final on Saturday. So let us know what you, what you on that. Switching our attention then to, to the doubles. We've talked about the mixed doubles, but the doubles, Marcelo Arello, who's won the mixed doubles, he's, he's also in the form partnership on the men's side right now, himself and Pavic, you know, I think a team that had just were quite brilliant for, for so long, but hadn't won a tournament up until Queen since May of 2025. And I think people are starting to think maybe they're going to split up. I did hear rumors this week that they might. They certainly are the informed team. And we have a repeat of the Queen's final as we have Arello and Pavic against Patton and Heliovara and they, they took care of business. Now he said he was going to be late, but this man is the first man to be on time. 9 10. Gordon Reed, a big welcome. How you doing?
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Thank you, mate. Cheers. Yeah, I was not sure if I was going to finish up the media there on time, but I've made it, I've made it.
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This is the More you're the smoothest media guy that we've had the last 11. You know, people have been fumbling around with links and you've come in first and foremost. A big congrats got playing on Court one today with Alfie moving through into, into tomorrow's final. Tell us a little bit about that today.
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Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I mean, first of all, amazing to, to play on Court one again and you know, we've had a couple of matches over the last few years and you know, it's always an amazing experience to play in front of that home crowd on there. But yeah, it was a tricky match today. The guys brought a good level first set and we were sort of trailing the whole way through until the four all game where we just got our noses in front. And then I think once we got that first set in the bag, we managed to relax and dictate a little bit more of the points. So, yeah, happy to get it done and not too much drama and straight
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sets and the crowd on Court one will be excited tomorrow that you made it through. You know, I know. We know how that Court one crowd loves your finals. You know, it tends to just take over the whole of Wimbledon when you and Alfie are playing a final on there.
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Yeah, well, the, the doubles finals actually Saturday morning, so.
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Oh, is it?
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Yeah, yeah, so I think it's 11 o' clock on court one Saturday morning, so. Yeah, so I'll have a little day of practice tomorrow. Alfie's got his singles semi final tomorrow and then, yeah, we'll be ready to go on on Saturday.
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So that'll be the hot ticket. Now, Gordon, when I start to read through what you've achieved, it's quite incredible. And that would take about 15 minutes just reading through what you've achieved over
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the last few years. Nobody wants to hear that.
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Well, I think they do and they should and everyone shouldn't does know. But I believe 30 grand slams we could start jumping Into. But I want to jump into one specific one, you know, and we talk about. I was speaking to Mark Bullock earlier today as well. And, you know, I know that you have played a massive role in bringing wheelchair tennis to Wimbledon. You know, if we go back, I believe 2005, they did have doubles events that started, but the inaugural, the first event, 2016, where they had singles, was. Was this was a special year. I remember the court 17, actually, where they played your final, which is no longer there. You can get a cup of coffee there now and you can get a bottle of water. Is that that little court in the little dip now, isn'? And you were the first ever singles champion at Wimbledon. In a sport that's growing all the time, you know, Wimbledon seems to have been the place where that's really, really pushed on, and you're certainly going to go down in history on that. Take me back to that moment. One of having the event at Wimbledon and for it, you know, to start kind of getting the visibility that it deserves. And then two for you to come out on top as the Wimbledon champion.
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Yeah, well, I mean, just to play singles here was a dream come true. You know, it was something that we didn't know if it would ever happen because the, the chairs and the movement for us is as much tougher on grass as a surface. And, you know, there was. There wasn't that much chat of whether singles would ever be introduced at Wimbledon. But, yeah, obviously we found out we were going to be playing here 20, 2016, and, you know, it was perfect timing for me, really, because I'd won my first singles Grand Slam at the Australian Open that year, and that felt like a big weight off my shoulder. And I then went on to make singles final at the French Open that year. And then, you know, came here and feeling confident and, yeah, with all the home crowd and playing on the grass, which I love playing on. Yeah, everything just came together and, yeah, one of my best moments in my career.
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And how do you prepare for a match like that? Where do you feel the weight of a match like that? The fact that it is Wimbledon, it is the first ever singles wheelchair final that's been played at Wimbledon. You know, I guess there's that extra, extra weight of expectation yet the extra weight that you're carrying. How do you then prepare for a final like that?
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Yeah, I think try not to think about that side of it too much because, like you say, it can be a heavy weight that and a big distraction. But I think luckily for me, you know, I was playing Two matches on the Saturday. The day before, we had the doubles final and the singles semi final. You know, me and Alfie won the doubles on the Saturday. So, you know, that was a busy day, so not too much time to stop and think about what was going to happen the day after. And yeah, I guess like any player before a big match, you just try and stick to your routines and processes that, you know, work and help you and keep you settled. And yeah, it was no different for that match, really.
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And in terms of wheelchair tennis itself, over the last 10 years since then, how do you feel it has developed? Has it developed how you'd like to. Is it getting the, the professionalized outlook that you want it to have? It certainly seems to me certainly, like I'm a big fan. You know, I, I'm now know there's a lot more household names. It feels, it feels like we're, we're talking. I understand the rivalries that are happening. You. It's, it's, it's in the kind of tennis speak a bit more from someone who's being a big. That. How. How's that been from your standpoint? Maybe what can be done even better to push it forward even more.
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Yeah, I think, yeah, you're spot on, really. I mean, you know, obviously, first and foremost, like, we need to try and produce good tennis and entertaining tennis because that's how we're going to get more people watching the sport and interested in the sport. So, you know, that's our responsibility and we're doing everything we can to, you know, to improve our tennis ability and, and performances to make that happen. But then, yeah, you've obviously got the other side of it where, you know, like in any sport and, you know, in tennis, especially those storylines, those characters and getting to know the players themselves and, and what they're like and interest in them, then, you know, that builds. Builds more, more eyes on the sport and, you know, gains more, more traction. So, yeah, I think that's something that's being done much, much better than, you know, 10, 15 years ago. I think Wimbledon's a great example of that. You know, the difference between, like you say, me being on court 17 and nobody really knowing it was happening to, you know, now it's like a fixture that's on people's tickets when they're buying court. One ticket for the Saturday and Sunday. It's, it's actually on the schedule that it's going to be wheelchair matches that you're buying a ticket to go and watch. So I think that's a huge step forward for us and Wimbledon's been the driving force with a lot of that and they're setting a great example. And yeah, we, we always want to try and move things forward even more. I think we've got some big things we can improve style in our own tour and the wheelchair only events that we play around the calendar. But, you know, the ITF are working hard on that and hopefully we can keep moving forward with some of those events as well.
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And to switch gears a little bit. Gordon, as much as I'd love to have you on for the next hour, you, you've got a tournament to win and prepare for. As, as much as anything else, your media commitments are, I would imagine, pretty big, certainly around the big events. You know, I see you appearing on many different adverts and it must be, it must be your Scottish good looks that get you on there. But it's, you know, but I, but I, but I, it's, it's even coming on and, and doing this during the tournament, which I'm very grateful for. There's a, there's a young British player that's kind of come out of nowhere this week, you know, who has a semi final in the men's singles tomorrow against Alexander Zver and you know, all of a sudden going from kind of zero to hero, you know, in the nicest possible way. What's your advice for, for Arthur and how, how to handle the, the kind of newfound fame and you know, all of the kind of media commitments and everything that comes with that?
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I mean, I don't think, not sure he needs any advice from me at the moment. He's on absolute fire at the moment and it's amazing to see. I think the thing for me that's been the most impressive about Arthur's sort of ten days or so here so far, is that when he's in those moments and on the biggest stages in world tennis, he just looks, he doesn't look out of place at all. He looks really comfortable and composed and obviously we don't know what's going on inside his head. It might be a totally different story, but, you know, he's stepped up to the plate big time in those moments and yeah, amazing to see. You know, wish him all the best obviously, for his semi and yeah, I guess when it comes to media stuff, I mean, it's going to be on a completely different scale and level than I've ever experienced. But I think for me the most important thing is to, you know, listen to the people that you, you Trust around you that, that have been there, you know, through, all through the journey and make sure you, you take their advice and, and do. Do the things that they, they think are right for you. And yeah, just to make sure that the tennis always takes the priority and not to get to, to get too carried away with, you know, all the chats around it.
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Great advice. Are you ready for our quick fire round, our Wimbledon quick fire round?
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Right, let's go.
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Let's see what I'm. I'm being thrown here with questions.
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Let's see.
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What's your best Wimbledon memory as a fan?
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How I was a fan. I mean, I was a player that year, but that moment I was a fan. I actually got tickets to be courtside for Andy's first singles win. So I was actually in the corner. I'd finished. I was just playing doubles that year. I'd lost and earlier in the week and I'd managed to get sent a court ticket. So being courtside with my old coach, Karen Ross, and watching him lift a trophy.
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Any tears?
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I think from Karen? Actually, yeah. I mean, she, she knew Andy from, from a young boy. So, yeah, no, that was, that was amazing. And yeah, just to see him do the, the lap of honor with the trophy and everything and be so close to the court was. Yeah, that was, that was amazing for me.
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Do you, do you think Scottish tennis is capital when we, when we take like the women's final is more checks. These bloody checks are just coming fair play to them, but they're coming from everywhere. You know, the women's singles final is, you know, I think that's three or four years now, will be won by Czech women and we've got two in the final. Have Scottish tennis capitalized on, on, on Andy Murray and, and on yourself? Because, you know, and Jamie, you know, there was a, there was a big moment. Why aren't we seeing more and more Scottish players in the final, like the Czechs?
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Yeah, I mean, wish it was that easy, I suppose just having somebody from that country, you know, be there and win, it doesn't guarantee anything in the future, I suppose. But. But yeah, I mean, maybe not really my area of expertise, but, you know, we've got some great Scottish players that are playing at the moment. Obviously you've got Cam, you've got Jacob. Maya was here playing in the doubles. So, you know, we've got some, some great, some brilliant Scottish players on, on the tour and wheelchair tennis.
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Wheelchair tennis.
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Wheelchair, yeah, yeah, we don't, we don't really have any coming through at the moment. You know, I actually had a couple of good conversations with Blaine Dodds, who's, yeah, the top, top man at Tennis Scotland. And he's saying that, you know, they're actively looking to sort of invest more in disability tennis and wheelchair tennis and try and create a better pathway through for, for new players and try and find some more new players coming through. So, yeah, hopefully I can be helping out with that in the near future. And, you know, we get that next generation of wheelchair players coming from Scotland as well.
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Finish this sentence. When I think of Wimbledon, I think of
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drop shots.
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Who would you most like to play on Centre Court, past or present?
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I think for me, probably Shingo Kunera. He's probably the legend of men's wheelchair tennis. He was the number one for the majority of my career. So he's retired now, but yeah, I love to play to him here in center court.
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And if you were to get to play on center court, what song would you walk out to?
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Simply the best.
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What is the single hardest shot to face on a grass court? Tennis. Just to face on a grass court in wheelchair tennis.
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Probably a really fast flat body surf because for us, very difficult with the body serve because you can't just take a step out of the way to create space for the racket. It and obviously on, on the grass if you, you know, it's going to shoot through even quicker. So, yeah, probably that one.
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Your favorite ever Wimbledon champion champions. And why?
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Well, Roger was my hero growing up, obviously before, before Andy was playing and then. Yeah, looked up to Andy a lot. But yeah, it's a, it's a bit of a basic answer, but can't, can't look past Roger.
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I don't think any of us can. I, I walk, I walk past him. I'm doing this in the, into indoor tennis center. It's kind of my, as coaches, this is like a little, I shouldn't say it too loud because it's like a bit of a secret spot. Yeah. And I just love it here. It's like my own little, little haven when I'm at Wimbledon. But I, I was walking down the corridor and I was like, I recognize that voice. And he was in, he was, he had a few people around him and so I didn't want to, I didn't want to stop and, and say anything. Oh, can I get a picture? As much as I'd love to, you
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know, but he wasn't asking you for one, though.
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He certainly wasn't. I, I, I, I, I thought about asking him to Come on and do 9, 10pm Maybe Saturday night, you know, for my last. For my last podcast. But even that, just him in the corridor, just the aura he's got, just the everything about him. He's just. Yeah. So I don't blame you for saying it. What is your guilty pleasure?
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Oh, guilty pleasure. Probably I got a bit of a sweet tooth prop, so probably some. Just a wee, wee pack of sweeties now and again.
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What, what's, what's your sweet tooth at Wimbledon?
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Oh, well, I'm being a good, A good boy at the moment this week, but I have had the, the strawberries and cream a couple of times. Wimbledon Classic. You can't go wrong with that.
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You can it. And what's one thing you change about Wimbledon?
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Well, after today, I would change the foot fault rule because I got another one today that was a mistake. So explain. Yeah, two last year and on court one as well in the semi final and won today. Whereas it's a human that's actually on, on the line making the calls. But they're watching the video. They're watching the video and they're pressing a button and they think it's the footfall. But we got the same rule in the chairs as somebody on their feet where, you know, you can be over the line but as long as you're not touching it before you contact the ball. So I think what happened was one of my wheels like hovered over the
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line and then you go backwards.
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Well, yeah, then you sort of like swivel and then the wheel will move back before you contact and they've made a mistake and called a footfall. And no, luckily, didn't change the outcome of the match today, but another moment that could. It was 1545, 5, 3, 5, 1 in the, in the second. So, yeah, quite a big point. But spoken with the referees and they've admitted it was a mistake. So hopefully they're, they're more on it for the next one.
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There you go. I like it. An insightful one as well. What would your best advice be to a young, young British wheelchair tennis player dreaming of playing at Wimbledon?
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I think the best advice is, you know, obviously to enjoy. Enjoy what you're doing, enjoy the. Every time you step on a tennis court. And you know, for me, an important one as well is to listen to your coach, trust their advice and yeah, just be very, very committed to the style that you want to play and, and, and, you know, the type of tennis you want to bring to the court.
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Did you meet a young boy called Austin today? Maybe not. Maybe not.
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Not sure today.
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Okay.
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Possibly another day.
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Yeah, maybe yesterday. He's a young, young lad from Brighton area around.
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I think I've met him before. Yeah, but, but not today.
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Absolutely inspirational young lad. I met, I did a coaching conference a couple of weeks ago just outside of Eastbourne and where he trains and he came along and we had a half an hour chat and what, what a delightful young lad. I know he's kind of early, he's early stages of his tennis and he's, he's kind of rebound, rebounded back from obviously very, very difficult situation. Losing, losing both legs for like two or three years ago and he showed me a picture and he won't mind me saying this. I don't know if he's listening but he won't mind me saying this. But it bright goes to Brighton matches and they've kind of really taken to him and looked after him and he's, he's got a, he's got a Brighton shirt and they said what do you want? What number do you want on your back? And he said I want, I want zero. And what do you want your name to be? He said legs and it's just like for this 13, 14 year old lady, you know to being dealt that hand and, and within like a very. We talked about my favorite quote being 10 of life's what happens to you 90 how you respond. There wasn't a better experience and inspiration than this young lad and he's. I've heard he's a, you've heard he's a skillful young boy. He's only been playing for about 10 months but I know he was talking about how much he, he loves you, he loves Gordon, he loves order, you know and he, we had it, we of had a lot, had a lovely chat and that when I bumped, I just bumped into him. He saw me in a rangy park, maybe it was yesterday and he told me he was going to be meeting you and Alfie in the afternoon and he was just, he was just made up genuinely. He, he's like inspired me almost more than anybody. So I'm, I'm going to be watching out for him and if you do, you know, watch out for him. I know that you're.
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Oh yeah, watch my back.
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You're a massive inspiration. Yeah, well coming from a ranking I've told them how to play against you so the tactics and last, last, last question and it's. Look, it's, we had a joke in the corridor the other day so I think I know the answer to this. It's not a good question to ask a Scotsman, but who's gonna, who's gonna win the World Cup?
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England have got a very good chance, don't they? They got a very good chance. Hard to call really. I mean, you know, my, my tournament finished. Finished a long time ago, feels like. I think, I think I'm gonna say. I think I'm gonna say England, I'm gonna win it.
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Gordon Reed, you're a legend. Thank you so much for your time. Good luck and, and yeah, keep, keep inspiring, keep going and getting those titles. Next time I speak to you, I want to be talking about 40, not 30 grand slams. Come on, mate, you can do better.
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I'll try my best, but no, thanks for having me on and thanks for all your support. We will channel as well. We appreciate it.
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Top man, Gordon. Good luck. There we go, guys. Gordon Reed, what an absolute, absolute legend of the sport, given his time to, to come and speak to us. So a massive, massive thank you to, to him. And we were just finishing off before he came on, talking about the, our player of the day, Linda Noskova, women's singles finalist on, on Saturday after winning 6464 today against Marta Kostuk. And our last segment of the day, just a couple of questions. Trying to keep it to two a day. I know there's been a few more coming in, but two a day. We got one here from Peter Haley. Hi, Dan, how is the team feeling going into tomorrow's semi final? And he's talking about Gabby Dabrowski, Louisa Stefani, who, who I'm coaching alongside the amazing in Ghee. And yeah, they're good. They're good. You know, it's, I think they're feeling great. I think they're, they're very grateful for, for the opportunity of the playing court one tomorrow at 1:00pm you know, the, the sun is shining in Wimbledon. They're both feeling fit and healthy, feeling good about their tennis and, and what, what better treat to have on a, on a Friday afternoon than playing a court one at Wimbledon? Hopefully there'll be a great crowd out there and I think they're in, they're in a really, really nice place and I just hope they, that they are able to go out there and enjoy, embrace whatever situations come their way. I have a lot of belief in them and I'm excited to watch a lot of good tennis and you know, as our philosophy goes, just try and get a bit better. So, yeah. So please, anyone that's there, please keep. I want to Hear your nice and loud cheering for Gabby Dabowski, Louisa Stefani and all the kind messages that are coming through on that. Thank you very much. And last question, and it's a food question again. We've talk. You talked a lot about strawberries and cream over the last 11 days. Susan Greenwood, what's been my favorite food item at Wimbledon this year except strawberries and cream? It's the, it's the answer that's too obvious. What wall. What has the favorite food item at Wimbledon. Wimbledon this year being out, which, you know what I'm. It's give them a bit of a shout out. Sticks and sushi in Wimbledon. It's not at Wimbledon. We've the, the girls, Gabby and Louise are both won vouchers at Queen's Club. So they've kindly treated us to that a couple of nights. And I must admit that was very nice. And, and I guess on the, on the sushi thing theme, it's a bit of a, bit of a tennis. The, the thing that tennis players that's become come or certain maybe not tennis players, but tennis tournaments. There's two things that are kind of everywhere nowadays and I must admit I like them a lot, which is why I need to keep going to the gym a bit more is the sushi. You know, sushi's like staple diet for tennis players. Good carbs, good protein, you know, good snack, you know, get it, get it in. Yeah. And they do. They do pretty good sushi here. And then the other one is oakberry. The Acia bowls, they're doing them this year and that's something that I need to be careful on them because I think they're quite high in sugar, but they taste so good. But they do have a bit of an insight. You're not normally I like my oak berry. I like to have a bit of peanut butter. But for. I don't know why. I don't know whether it's like Wimbledon's the only place in the world that you can get a nut allergy, but they don't have peanut. Not allowed peanut butter at Wimbledon because of people's nut allergies, which that's not me downplaying a nut allergy. But obviously you can buy peanut butter in most places in the world and people just have to be obviously careful with the allergy. So it is missing the peanut butter and maybe the protein powder. It's not kind of the true oak berry that we get when we're in the States, but it is very good as well. So I think I'd say those two. And I'm hoping that later in the week it'll be the answer to that will be a Pimm's, a Pims or two that I'm hoping we're going to finish. When we finish the tournament, win win or lose, I'm sure we'll have a couple of Pims and celebrate everything that has happened over the last couple of weeks on the court and also off the court and with the podcast which is, you know, we've, we've, we've loved doing this every day and loved all of the fantastic responses. We have three more days to go. The aim is to try and bring you a live live every day up until the end of the event. So, so look out for, for tomorrow, we'll be talking about who our men's singles finalists and women's doubles finalists are. Are we gonna have a British man in the final? Let's see. But until next time, I'm Dan Kiernan. We are control. Control.