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Coping with Ghosting
Hosted by Gretta Perlmutter, MA, Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach · EN
Discover the Vogue-featured top mental health podcast, Coping with Ghosting.
This show provides hope, healing, and understanding for anyone betrayed or ghosted in business, love, family, or friendship. If somebody's broken your trust, this show is for you. It covers:
- Ghosting, betrayal, and broken trust in relationships
- Emotional recovery from betrayal
- Relationships, attachment styles, and personality disorders
- How to build confidence, self-worth, and trust
- Transform betrayal into a catalyst for change
Coping with Ghosting is hosted by Gretta Perlmutter, Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, and a sensitive soul who's been ghosted one too many times. Visit www.copingwithghosting.com for more info.
Disclaimer: This show is not a substitute for professional mental help or therapy.
Ghosting, noun: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication. - Oxford Dictionary. Note: Ghosting is different from leaving an abusive situation without a goodbye or disappearing after a boundary has been violated.
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How to Heal From Cheating and Betrayal
3w ago00:38:51Tap to summarizeWhen someone you trust breaks that bond, the world can feel like it’s turned upside down. In this episode, breakup coach Janice Formicella and Host Gretta discuss the messy reality of betrayal and how to move forward. We dive into why people cheat, how to handle the "I’m not enough" narrative, and why taking a break from dating might be the best thing you ever do for your confidence.What we cover in this episode:Why cheaters do it, from poor communication to fear of conflict.Attachment styles and cheating.How to stop the "not enough" spiral after a breakup.Practical ways to start trusting your gut again.They're not all cheaters; tips for those who want a relationship but are hesitant to date again.How to balance grief, anger, and healthy distractions.If you're healing after being cheated on, this conversation is for you. You'll gain practical steps to feel like yourself again.Connect with Janice Formichella: YouTube | Janice's Website | Insight Timer Guided Meditations by JaniceJanice Formichella is a breakup coach and the host of the podcasts Sex and the Solo Girl and Breakups, Broken Hearts, and Moving On. She is passionate about helping people from all backgrounds to beat their breakup, overcome loneliness, and make the end of a relationship the start of a powerful new beginning.Connect with Gretta:Free Guide: What to Say To A GhostFree and Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies to turn personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only and provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →When Chaos Feels Like Home: Healing From High-Conflict Family Cycles with Dr. Tracy Hutchinson
Mar 2900:47:14Tap to summarizeDo you ever feel like you’re waiting for the "other shoe to drop," even when things are going well? If you grew up in a high-conflict environment, your nervous system may have been wired to view chaos as "home."In this episode, host Gretta welcomes trauma therapist and author Dr. Tracy Hutchinson to explore the deep-seated impact of being raised in unpredictable, high-stress family systems. The habits we formed to survive these environments often follow us into adulthood, showing up as anxiety, self-blame, and a pattern of choosing unstable relationships. In this episode, we cover the following:How to know if you have high-conflict family members.Why over-apologizing, "people-pleasing," and fawn responses can show up as a result of trauma.Understanding how unhealthy family patterns affect adult professional and romantic lives.Cognitive dissonance: what it is and how to detect it.How ghosting and estrangement are different, when estrangement may be necessary, and when to repair a relationship.How to heal & make meaning.Dr. Tracy Hutchinson is a psychotherapist, professor, and author specializing in recovery from sociopathic abuse, narcissistic abuse, and family trauma. Her latest book, Adult Children of High-Conflict Parents: Find Freedom from Your Past, Heal the Pain of Toxic Relational Trauma, and Cultivate Lasting Self-Love, is a roadmap for anyone looking to heal. Connect with Dr. Tracy Hutchinson:Website | Facebook | Get the BookConnect with Gretta:Free Guide: What to Say To A GhostFree and Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies to turn personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →From Anxious to Secure Attachment Style with Trevor Hanson
Feb 2200:49:16Tap to summarizeDoes it ever feel like you’re dating the same person with a different name? If you notice that you’re often gravitating toward emotionally unavailable people, this episode is for you.Joining Gretta to discuss attachment is Trevor Hanson, coach and founder of The Art of Healing. Trevor teaches relationship and attachment skills through the Secure Self Club. In this show, Trevor deconstructs common relationship dynamics and shares how to finally break the cycle of insecure attachment. This episode covers:How to move from an insecure attachment style to a more secure one.How anxious patterns can amplify avoidance.Why men who have an anxious attachment style may tend to get ghosted more.Insights on why men may be more prone to avoidant attachment.How porn and other addictions are often attempts to soothe unmet attachment needs.If you’re ready to make powerful shifts in your life, this episode is for you. Connect with Trevor: Instagram | Trevor’s Website | YouTube | TikTok Connect with Gretta:Free Guide: What to Say To A GhostFree and Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | copingwithghosting.comMusic: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or other registered professionals.✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →Betrayal and Burnout: Managing Life When It’s "Too Much," with Dr. Ken Huey
Jan 2500:35:52Tap to summarizeIf your nervous system has been on high alert lately, you aren’t alone. Maybe you’re dealing with a painful betrayal or the silence of being ghosted, and facing a job issue, a personal loss, or health stress.In this episode, Dr. Ken Huey from The Voice of Hope Podcast shares how to navigate compounded stress and find your way back from overwhelm when everything feels like "too much."In this episode, we discuss:The Breath as an Anchor: Using your breath as the primary entry point to the present moment.Success vs. Distraction: Why achieving one "meaningful win" is more effective for stress relief than common distractions.Tools for a Reality Check: Using journaling and a "circle of trust" to reset your perspective after extremely stressful situations.Curating Your Influence: The importance of intentionally choosing the five people or sources that shape your mindset.From Betrayal to Boundaries: Shedding a victim mindset, taking your power back, and creating high standards and non-negotiable boundaries.Whether you are reeling from a recent relationship ending or feeling the heavy weight of multiple issues, this conversation will give you free, easy-to-implement tools to help. It will give you hope.Dr. Ken Huey is CEO at The Hope Group and Havenwood Academy in Utah, and Host of The Voice of Hope Podcast. Dr. Huey has over 25 years of experience in the mental health and behavioral healthcare fields and holds a Ph.D. in Marriage and Family Therapy and a Master’s degree in Counseling Psychology.Connect With Dr. Ken Huey: Listen to The Voice of Hope Podcast and check out his LinkedInConnect with Gretta:Free Guide: What to Say To A GhostFree and Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | copingwithghosting.comMusic: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or other register✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →How to Spot a Narcissist in Relationships, with Dr. Harold Shinitzky, Psy.D.
Dec 2800:59:08Tap to summarizeNarcissistic behavior often hides in plain sight, especially in relationships. Recognizing the signs of narcissism before entering a relationship or while you are already in one can be the first step toward protecting your peace of mind.In this episode, Dr. Harold Shinitzky, Psy.D., breaks down the different types of narcissism, how narcissistic traits show up in relationships, and what real support and healing can look like.You’ll learn about: • Gaslighting, love bombing, mirroring, and future faking • Put-downs, smear campaigns, and projection • Control, surveillance, and emotional manipulation • What actually motivates change in narcissists • Boundary phrases that shut down manipulation • Resources to help you move forward with clarity and confidenceDr. Shinitzky is a highly sought after presenter nationally and internationally. He is the developer of A Champion’s Mindset™, and The Winning Zone ©. He also co-authored the book, “A Champions Mindset: 15 Mental Conditioning Steps to Becoming a Champion Athlete” and works with Olympians and professional athletes (PGA, NFL, MLB, ATP, WTA, NBA, NHL) and nationally ranked juniors. Dr. Harold E. Shinitzky, Psy. D. is located in St. Petersburg Florida.Connect With Dr. Shinitzky: drshinitzky.comRead Dr. Dr. Shinitzky's Book: Me, Myself, and I: A Narcissist’s Mindset: A Self-Help Handbook for Victims-Survivors of a NarcissistConnect with Gretta:Free Guide: What to Say To A GhostFree and Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | copingwithghosting.comMusic: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or other registered professionals. ✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →Limerence Explained: Signs, Causes, and How to Move Forward with Kati Morton, LMFT
Nov 3000:26:02Tap to summarizeHave you ever longed for someone who didn't feel the same way? If you have a deep infatuation or an obsessive pull toward a person, you may be experiencing limerence. In this episode, host Gretta is joined by Kati Morton, LMFT, author, public speaker, and creator of a popular mental health YouTube channel, to unpack the emotional complexities of limerence.Discover:The difference between limerence and healthy loveLimerence and how it relates to anxious attachment, BPD, and OCDWhy manifestation won’t change a limerent objectSupportive ways to move through limerenceAnd more!If limerence is something you’re experiencing, this conversation will help you reclaim your time, your calm, and your peace of mind.Connect With Gretta❤️🩹Free & Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | YouTube | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, MA, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies for turning personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Connect with Kati Morton, LMFT | YouTube | Instagram | katimorton.com Kati Morton, LMFT, is a licensed therapist, bestselling author, and mental health educator with a global community of over 1.5 million subscribers. Kati’s work helps people understand their emotions, break unhealthy patterns, and build resilience. Her upcoming book, Why Do I Keep Doing This? (Dec 9th, 2025), explores how to break free from self-sabotage. Get your copy here!Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools. Coping With Ghosting does not provide health care or psychological therapy services and does not diagnose or treat any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute f✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →Will They Ghost Me? How to Spot the Signs in Dating with Kelsey Wonderlin, Licensed Therapist & Dating Coach
Oct 2600:25:10Tap to summarizeWant to stop ghosting before it happens? While you can never entirely prevent ghosting, there are signs it may occur in the future. Join host Gretta and licensed therapist & dating coach Kelsey Wonderlin as they share practical tools for spotting emotional availability in dating.Discover how to:Use questions to screen for emotional maturityPace dates to slow attachmentDate with confidenceSpot vulnerability versus polished talkWhether you're single and dating or already in a relationship, this conversation provides ways to protect your energy and prioritize partners who show up. Connect With Gretta❤️🩹Free & Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | YouTube | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, MA, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies for turning personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Connect with Kelsey Wonderlin, Licensed Therapist and Dating Coach💕Kelsey's Website | Instagram Kelsey has dedicated her career to helping women use evidence-based psychology principles to attract emotionally available men, fast. Her proprietary methods have been featured in The New York Times, TIME Magazine, NBC, and more. If you're a single woman and want to find true love, check out her courses!💕Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools. Coping With Ghosting does not provide health care or psychological therapy services and does not diagnose or treat any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or registered professionals.✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →What to Do When the Person Who Ghosted You Returns in Love or Dating
Sep 2800:26:19Tap to summarizeIn this episode, host Gretta, Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, reveals exactly what to do when the person who ghosted you reappears and wants to come back to your life. You’ll learn how to protect your heart, set clear boundaries, and decide with confidence whether a reunion is truly right for you. You’ll discover:The types of relationships that aren't safe to go back toHow to be a ghostbuster and shut down the hauntingHow to identify if the person who hurt you has grown and evolved to the point where they are unlikely to vanish againHow to know if you feel ready to rekindle a spark with your former partnerThe first steps to getting back together with a rehabilitated ghostBy the end of this show, you’ll understand what you need and what they must show in order to begin building a healthy relationship.Note: While this episode focuses on romantic reunions and dating, many of the insights can also be applied to friendships and family relationships.Connect With Gretta:👻Free Guide: What to Say To Your Ghost✨Coaching With Gretta❤️🩹Free and Private Facebook Support Group | 🌻 Instagram | YouTube ✨copingwithghosting.comResources Mentioned:National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-723312 Signs You’re in a Healthy Relationship - Cleveland Clinic ArticleTrust Again: Overcoming Betrayal and Regaining Health, Happiness, and Confidence by Dr. Debi Silber Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or other registered professionals. ✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →Episodes I Love: Why Ghosting is an Ambiguous Loss with Gabriela Vazquez, AMFT, APCC
Aug 3100:20:20Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Coping With Ghosting, Gabriela Vazquez, AMFT, APCC, and Gretta discuss why ghosting is an ambiguous loss that causes frozen grief. If you have been rejected, led on, or abandoned in a relationship - you are not alone. In this episode, we cover why it's healthy and essential to grieve the loss of your ghost. Connect With Gretta❤️🩹Free & Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | YouTube | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, MA, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies for turning personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Connect with Gaby@therapycongaby on Instagram Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools for your use. Coping With Ghosting is not providing health care or psychological therapy services and is not diagnosing or treating any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice given by a licensed psychologist or other licensed or other registered professionals. Support the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
Transcribe →When Best Friends Become Strangers: Understanding Female Friendship Estrangement
Aug 1000:34:45Tap to summarizeWhen women end a friendship, the heartbreak can be devastating, yet we rarely talk about how hard it is to grieve somebody who is still alive. Susan Shapiro Barash joins Gretta to explore the complex world of female friendship estrangement based on her groundbreaking research interviewing 150 diverse women. Her new book, "Estranged: How Strained Female Friendships Are Mended or Ended," challenges the lifelong "best friends forever" narrative that has left countless women feeling down when their closest friendships crumble. From the faithless friend who betrays your trust to the green-eyed friend consumed by jealousy, Barash identifies different types of toxic friendships that lead women to the painful decision of ending relationships they once cherished. Whether you've been ghosted or betrayed by a friend, are healing from a friendship breakup, or seeking to build healthier connections, this episode offers compassionate guidance for navigating one of life's most under-discussed transitions. Connect With Gretta❤️🩹Free & Private Facebook Support Group | Instagram | YouTube | copingwithghosting.comHost Gretta Perlmutter, MA, a Certified Post Betrayal Transformation® Coach, delivers evidence-based strategies for turning personal betrayal into a powerful catalyst for growth and healing.Connect With Susan Shapiro Barash Read Susan's Book: Estranged: How Strained Female Friendships Are Mended or Ended | Susan's WebsiteSusan Shapiro Barash has written more than a dozen nonfiction books, including Tripping the Prom Queen, Toxic Friends, and You’re Grounded Forever, but First Let’s Go Shopping. For more than 20 years, she taught gender studies at Marymount Manhattan College and has guest taught creative nonfiction at the Writing Institute at Sarah Lawrence College. Her fiction is published under her pen name, Susannah Marren.Music: "Ghosted" by Gustavo ZaiahDisclaimer: This information is designed to mentor and guide you to cope with Ghosting by cultivating a positive mindset and implementing self-care practices. It is for educational purposes only; it solely provides self-help tools. Coping With Ghosting does not provide health care or psychological therapy services and does not diagnose or treat any physical or mental ailment of the mind or body. The content is not a substitute for therapy or any advice gi✨Visit eatiqbar.com/COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Discount code to be used at checkout: COPINGWITHGHOSTING✨Your Get:20% off selected collections: Products For DiscountsApplies to subscription and one-time ordersApplies to first subscription order onlyLimited to one use per customerSupport the showNote to All Listeners: Ghosting is defined as: The practice of ending a personal relationship with someone by suddenly and without explanation withdrawing from all communication (Oxford Languages). When you leave an abusive situation without saying "goodbye," it's not ghosting, it's "self-protection." When you quietly exit a relationship after a boundary has been violated, it's not ghosting, it's "self-respect."
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