Crash Dummies Podcast with Pat and Mike

Episode 229: "Is It For Sale?"
Release Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Patrick Johnson & Michael Esiobu

Episode Overview

Pat and Mike return with another freewheeling, comic discussion of modern relationships, internet trends, and social dynamics—this week, exploring the theme “Is It For Sale?” They’re joined by their recurring guest Gene and a range of call-in guests, who offer both hilarious and unexpectedly candid revelations. The episode combines signature banter, deep dives into current behaviors (from viral dating trends to awkward club etiquette), and a series of interactive audience calls, culminating in stories about revenge, body image, and authenticity in both life and relationships.

Key Themes and Discussions

1. Viral Trends & the Language of the Internet

[01:00 – 03:40]

• Pat and Mike riff on how rapidly internet lingo and viral phenomena (like “6, 7” and Fortnite dances) diffuse through generations. They wonder at how normalized these things get with even very young kids.
• They joke about how context matters: using things like dance moves or catchphrases in certain situations just doesn’t land ("If a 14-year-old comes up to me like, ‘hey six seven,’ I’d be like, ‘yeah, watch out.’" – Pat [01:50]).

On literal language:

• They mock over-literal critiques that nitpick phrases like "my life did a 360" instead of "180," poking fun at the way social media corrects every slip, and reflect on how in other cultures language is more flexible ([16:02]).

2. The Reluctance to “Shoot Your Shot” in Modern Dating

[05:01 – 08:11]

• The hosts discuss a viral video: a man is hesitant to DM a girl he likes, preferring to just like her stories. The conversation spins off into perspectives on rejection avoidance and emotional labor in pursuing relationships.

  • "I'm not trying to find out. I'm comfortable where I'm at." – Pat [05:20]
  • "Y'all shooting y'all shot, y'all more likely to be successful at it." – Pat [05:31]

• They unpack the common cycle of both men and women wanting to be wanted, but also fearing rejection (with Pat describing stories where both sides are waiting for the other to make a move, only for things to fizzle).

• "I haven't been rejected a lot because I don't shoot my shot a lot." – Mike [07:58]

3. Rejection, Bravery, and Maturity in Social Interactions

[08:11 – 11:30]

• Pat jokes about the old practice of having friends talk to your crush on your behalf, and how there’s an age limit for that "shield".

  • "After college, this shit is dead." – Pat [09:52]

• They analyze how masculine displays, even in approaching women, feed into broader dating expectations. Pat stresses the importance of men making the first move, especially in clubs—women, he argues, interpret "sending a friend" as a lack of confidence ("Every girl want to be swept off their feet."). [11:00]

4. The Art of Manipulation & Petty Revenge

[11:46 – 15:00]

• Pat and Mike compare their approaches to conflict and revenge. Mike admits, "I like my revenge to slow cook a little bit" [12:58], while Pat claims he’d rather be upfront and direct.

• They riff on exaggerated punishments, like "buying his mama’s house and throwing parties in her old room," as a way to cope with slights.

5. Accidental Dangers & Trust in Public Spaces

[18:00 – 20:15]

• The hosts are amused by how mundane acts (sneezing or taking off a hoodie while driving) can lead to real danger—pointing out how much trust is required of others on the road.
  • "Nigga tried to fix his hoodie and killed me." – Pat [18:50]
  • "You know how bad I would beat somebody ass if we got in an accident and he hopped out like, 'my bad, bro. I sneeze. Allergies.'" – Pat [19:24]

6. Modern Morality & “Is It For Sale?”

[20:33 – 32:00] | Main Segment

• Call-in with Gene [32:28] sets up the episode’s core theme:

  • Gene, who works retail, complains about married men flirting at work. The conversation flips: would it still be a problem if they offered money?

    "Gene: $3,000, I might gotta give them what they want.
    Pat: That's for sale. I want to let you know that's pretty cheap, too." [30:38]

  • In-depth discussion of transactional relationships, joking about the “retail prostitution” and comparing the cost of a TV ($2,800) to Gene’s tongue-in-cheek “price.”

  • Mike points out: "The only reason you have a problem with married men hitting on single women is because they haven't offered money." [31:36]

7. Club & Social Etiquette

[33:29 – 36:43]

• Callers discuss pet peeves, including:
  • Men standing on club couches for attention ("like, what is this nigga, a villain or something?" – Pat [34:05])
  • Men snatching hookah from women’s sections, described as "zesty" and thief-like behavior.

8. Painful Realizations: Body Image, Habits, and Self-Torture

[38:35 – 54:31]

• Several call-in guests share deep admissions:
  1. Personal weight struggles:
     • A guest opens up about difficulties in losing weight, the cycle of progress and backsliding, and the need for gradual habit-building ("try to start just by walking"). The hosts respond with both encouragement and humor ("I'm not sending you a 5X, I'll send you a 4X. I don't support that." – Pat [43:15]).
  2. Revenge relationships:
     • A candid story about a woman who takes elaborate sexual revenge on a cheating ex, blending her emotional process with literal transactions:
       • “I used to be such a nice girl...I was being very nice. So coming into this now, I’m like, oh, I’m gonna torture him.” – Gene [46:46]
       • "Getting came on is not a good revenge tactic." – Pat [52:28]
     • The guest confesses that what started as revenge became something she began to enjoy, raising questions of self-worth, pleasure, and healing.

9. Internet Content Pet Peeves

[54:54 – 60:04]

• Guest: Annoyed by unnecessary weed packaging ("PlayStation box weed, fake AirPods case,” etc.), feeling that branding has gone overboard.
• Another caller vents about "trauma dumping" and “engagement farming” on LinkedIn, where personal tragedies are used as preambles for sales pitches:
  • “I’m just tired of LinkedIn becoming a medium for trauma dumping...and then they try to sell you something.” – Guest [57:23]
  • Pat jokes: "If you use chatgpt, at least erase the long ass dashes, you ass niggas." [59:23]

10. Relationship “Experts” & Social Media Gurus

[60:23 – 64:07]

• Callers and hosts joke about social media “boyfriend do this or you a sucker” trends and TikTok advice that sets unrealistic expectations (flowers and steak every month).
  • “Flowers and steak, that's once a month. Like, a steak, like 14, and flowers like three. That’s 17.” – Pat [62:54]

11. Over-Explaining, Vulnerability and Taking Accountability

[64:13 – 67:32]

• A listener over-explains his story about over-explaining, as Pat and Mike humorously point out mid-call—gently ribbing him about self-awareness and learning from mistakes.

12. Gender Dynamics in Relationships & Arguments

[68:15 – 85:19]

• Pat and Mike discuss how men in relationships often try to give “the other perspective” and then get caught up in women’s intuition, sometimes using technicalities in arguments to distract from the core issue:
  • “That's how you get the instant side-eye of judgment.” – Pat [68:43]
  • "If you find out she was a 10 before and then you find out she makes super dark humor jokes... Are you going to take those jokes home?" – Pat [80:08]
• Extended riff on what to do if you see your friend's partner cheating in public, with Pat favoring “evidence first, then notification,” while Mike contemplates just leaving it alone [83:15–86:00].

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Transactional Relationships:
  • "So it's for sale?" (Pat [30:28])
  • "No, it's not for sale!" (Gene/Laughing [30:31])
• On revenge gone awry:
  • "Getting nutted on is not a good revenge tactic. Why do you have to involve yourself like that?" – Pat [52:28]
• On the dangers of language policing:
  • "We're the only country that does that." – Pat [16:30]
• On taking compliment from strangers:
  • "If you're not interested in me, I don't care that you find me handsome. Keep it to yourself." – Quoted Tweet [95:24]
• On the “rating” system in dating:
  • "The rating only matters to people that you can obtain. So it's dumb, it's a made up thing." – Pat [78:25]
• On adversity and real love:
  • "It's a lot of people that love. They think they love unconditionally, but the thing that they would stop loving for is just unlikely to happen." – Pat [82:38]
• On the absurdity of club culture:
  • “Standing on a couch is for the aesthetic of the club...when it’s a dude that’s mean mugging the whole crowd...what is this nigga, a villain or something?” – Pat [34:05]

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment / Discussion | |-----------|---------------------| | 01:00–03:40 | Viral trends and language policing | | 05:01–08:11 | Dating: “shooting your shot,” rejection | | 09:45–11:30 | Friendship and "wingman" etiquette | | 16:02–17:56 | Literalism and English language quirks | | 18:00–20:15 | Accidental car crashes: trust and risk | | 20:33–32:00 | Main segment: “Is It For Sale?” & transactional relationships | | 33:29–36:43 | Club etiquette: standing on couches, hookah theft | | 38:35–44:31 | Weight, self-image, motivation (call-in) | | 46:25–54:31 | Revenge, pleasure, and complicated healing (call-in) | | 54:54–60:04 | Weed packaging / LinkedIn trauma dumping | | 60:23–64:07 | Social media “relationship experts” criticized | | 64:13–67:32 | Over-explaining & self-awareness (call-in) | | 68:15–73:52 | Gender dynamics, arguments, women’s intuition | | 76:20–82:05 | Rating systems, adversity, and real love | | 83:15–88:25 | Cheating: what would you do if you catch a friend’s partner? | | 95:24–96:16 | Compliments from strangers & their effect | | 97:26–98:25 | Listener stories & closing thoughts |

Episode Highlights

• Candid caller admissions about self-image, infidelity, and unconventional revenge made the episode especially raw and memorable.
• Sharp critique of modern dating and social etiquette, filtered through the hosts’ comedic lens, making for both honest and hilarious moments.
• Recurring punchlines: The $3,000-for-a-TV/for-a-night gag; club mean-mugging; and the ongoing "is it for sale?" motif.
• Pat and Mike’s dynamic—Pat’s quick wit and Mike’s subtle digs—keep pace throughout, even when guests veer into unexpected territory.

Final Thoughts

This episode brings together irreverent humor, blunt relationship advice, and real listener stories, exploring the surface and depth of 2025’s dating mores and social annoyances. “Is It For Sale?” ultimately refers not just to literal transactions, but the value and cost—emotional, personal, and financial—of our choices.

Listeners come away laughing, but also thinking twice about the price tags we (sometimes unwittingly) attach to our self-worth, relationships, and authenticity.

For show notes, guest links, and more, visit the Crash Dummies Podcast website or follow the hosts on their socials!