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Mike
Yo.
Pat
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Mike
And.
Pat
And I don't think that should be the best quote. I think it should be, who, who are you when you have the power to say something that's bad and you can get away with it? You know, like, okay, if I really don't like black people and I want to take it out on Shador Sanders, I'll wait until he has a bad game and just says, he's not shit. He's not that. Like, that's not integrity, right? Integrity would be like, just be blatantly racist. You know what I'm saying? And I also hate it for this reason. Like, who are you when no one is watching, right? I'm not a good person, bro. It's a lot of shit I say in private, but those are my intrusive thoughts.
Mike
Like, yeah, I don't.
Pat
Yeah, I let it. I let it live. You know what I'm saying? I call Mike sometimes and let off some intrusive thoughts. Like, yo, this is crazy, right? Do you believe I thought of this?
Mike
I've been. Some wild, intrusive thoughts like, yours is crazy.
Pat
And it's like, I think it's just.
Mike
My humor is dark sometimes, but it's nice to at least say it out loud to a friend that I know. He'll judge me, but he won't like out me for my. My dark thoughts as well. You got to say it.
Pat
Yeah, I might one up.
Mike
You see, that's what it gets. That's when it gets crazy.
Gene
How come he.
Pat
How come he didn't dodge the bullet bike? That's too far, brother. That's too far. You know when somebody takes some shit way too far.
Mike
Oh, my God.
Danny
There was something.
Pat
Y' all both gonna die.
Mike
Laugh.
Pat
Obviously, I can't repeat it on the pod, but when you take it too far with friends that already have dark humor, it makes you feel like an even worse human being. There was a joke that I said in Atlanta when we was riding around and neither one of y' all was fucking with it. Like, y' all just kept buying y'.
Mike
All head to the music.
Pat
I was like, damn, I might have been too far. I wonder what them niggas think about me right now.
Mike
I think. I think we, as men, we need to do that a lot more.
Pat
No, no, I fuck with that.
Mike
It's like when your friend says some shit. We don't have to because I have my nervous tick sometimes is. Or like, my conversational thing is I should start laughing. You know, that kind of like the end of. I'm a bad conversation ender.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
So I just, like, as a drift off. Yeah, yeah. Just like, disappear. So I think with guys, we need to know when shit's not funny. We need to be more honest. It's like, no, that's not funny.
Pat
That's my go to move, though.
Mike
Yeah. Yeah, I could.
Pat
I'm a say goodbye to you, bro. And I got the best thing I got. Oh, shit, Mike. We got. When we're together, we're really good, really easy. I always be like, bro, you said you was going to take me home at this time. Like, you right, bro. We out of here, bro. I never seen you say goodbye, Gene. I feel like you're an Irish goodbye.
Gene
Yeah, I've been really good at. Honestly, just walking away from conversations.
Mike
That's my thing.
Gene
Like, at the end of a sentence, I'll just, like, divert to a whole nother. Like, give somebody else my attention and then almost like, look over to the other person and be like, that was it. You know, Like, I'm kind of caught up now.
Pat
No way. No, I definitely give people way too much grace. I'm like, you know what?
Mike
Man, Pat is the mayor.
Pat
How. How's your uncle's kid? You know, how is he? How's your cousin?
Gene
Now, the good one is like, honestly, I'll just address him. I'm like, all right, y. You know, hit him with the ej.
Mike
Or you go, I'm the eye contact person. I'm. I'll stand there till I make the eye contact with the person. From far away, though, like, right at the exit, I'd be like.
Pat
Yeah, I like you leaving.
Mike
Leaving. Yeah, yeah, the salute gets you out of anything.
Pat
I think I'm getting better at seeing people in public and not acknowledging them because I think I was so wrapped in a bubble for so long. Like when I coached football or even when I went corporate, I was like, my job, job, job. So I barely saw anybody. So when I saw somebody I knew in a grocery store, so I'm like, yo, such and such. And then, like, you have a conversation. Yeah. Now, I don't work a 9 to 5, so I technically see every body. I'll be dodging a. I'll be right. Somebody I know that I just talked to yesterday could be behind me in the Target checkout line, and I won't turn my back. I keep my back to him like this.
Mike
Especially, like, the people that I see that I don't remember their names. And I know it's going to be a long conversation if I see them, I just have to pretend I don't see them.
Pat
Yeah, bro. Like.
Mike
Because obviously if they approach me, then I'll be like, yeah, having a conversation. But I know this is going to be a 15 minute conversation because the first 10 minutes of the conversation is me trying to bait you and to give me your name or where I might know you from.
Pat
That's the other part. It's like, I know you from somewhere, but if I find out mid conversation, it was because I gave you a shot at the club, I'm going to be pissed.
Gene
You know what I don't like? I don't like when people hold me accountable when I've met them before. But I like, oh, it's nice to meet you. And they're like, yeah, I don't like that feeling.
Pat
Yeah.
Gene
Making it awkward. Like, just say, it's nice to meet you.
Pat
Like, people don't give you grace for not remembering them. Like, or when people hit you with that. Like, I know you got my number saved. Come on now. It's like, no, I don't have your number. Say I met you on a random night. Like, just tell me your Area code. So I can figure this out.
Mike
Like the. No, because, like, especially with you, Gene, we. We've all kind of dip in and out of the. Working at the store and being part of the brand. So there are people that we meet purely on a one off. And then we met you the same day. I met 100 more people. So, like, we do like an event at the store. So I was like, I met 100 people this day. I'm like, you know, I've seen your face before, so don't have to like, make it awkward. But I also get it if you say nice to meet you. That's why I don't like to say nice to meet you sometimes.
Pat
Oh, yeah. That's kind of tough. Like, actually, that is kind of rude. No, we got to call you.
Mike
They want to acknowledge it. They don't want it because it's like they probably still have hope that you remember who they are.
Pat
And that's rude, though, you saying, like, I don't even remember your face. Like, your existence. That's rude as fuck. Nice to meet you. If I met somebody twice and they say, nice to meet you, bro, I will sock the shit out you go. Remember me this time. I promise you that.
Mike
Anyway, welcome to crash dummies episode 228. I'm Mike. We got Pat here, we got Gene here. Nice to meet you. We just dropped an go ahead. We can do. We always do this every episode. We analyze Gene's fit. What you got on today, Gene?
Gene
Shit, I'm gonna call this, like a little cozy, jungle fit type vibe. Safari colorway off the, you know, shredded. Look like a cheetah attacked me or something.
Pat
Yeah, there's somebody right now calling you slurs for no apparent reason. You just piss people off.
Mike
We just dropped the Patreon episode. Episode yesterday. Yes, yesterday. So make sure you guys subscribe there to get those extra episodes.
Pat
Don't really know what's on it outside of listening calls because we haven't shot it yet, so we can't tell you.
Mike
Yeah, yeah.
Pat
We don't know what the fuck it is. Oh, we got. Let's do our call outs. You go first. I like some. I don't want to encourage, like, negative comments or like, but I do like when people voice their opinion because some of y' all dumb as fuck. So it's like, nice to see your opinion written out so we can actually.
Mike
This one's actually funny because this is still going back to the dude that called his sexist. So he called his sexes. And, you know, we Called him out on the podcast by his name JT24. And he then messaged us again and still complaining about, about us calling him out on the pod. So he still listened to us after he thought we were sexist. So I'm going to read his next message just to make him angry again. Hold on.
Pat
He'd be angry too. It's all caps, by the way.
Mike
Hello? Okay, I'm gonna read this the way I envisioned it in my head.
Pat
You mean, so you argue about football.
Mike
With a boy slash female, but not, but not your girl simply because she's a female. That's definitely sexist.
Pat
This is how Jayla Ramsey sounded after that one interview.
Mike
Hiding y' all sexism because y' all try to come off as progressive and pro woman when in fact y' all aren't soft ass. Mike. I knew it's sensitive like Drake that he loves dick riding. You have to bring this on the pod. Huh?
Pat
Brought it back. I think he, I think he's like more mad. I think he is sexist and he's mad that we not admitting that we sexist. He like, this is the reason why I listen.
Mike
It's just funny that he said we're sexist and then, then listen to this sexist podcast again.
Pat
I think he's sexist. He's just mad that we won't admit it or something. Like, I don't, I don't know what you want. Also, to the people that said that we shouldn't do photo dumps, it's because y' all don't go no fucking way.
Mike
Like, definitely about to get a photo dump.
Pat
Yeah, yeah. You're like, bro, you can't photo dump because there's not that many angles of your living room. I'm sorry, bro, there's only four different views of your living room. Yeah, I wouldn't photo dump either if I was you, bro. Like, I don't get what's wrong with photo dumping. If I go a lot of places and I take some pictures and they form my memories.
Mike
Like, I kind of understand from like the toxic males type of standpoint in the sense of like, especially a funny standpoint. It's like, it's with the captions sometimes be like, september, you are so good to me.
Pat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that didn't take too far. And I do believe that like six picture story, like show yourself middle of September. I do believe, I do believe that is not for the manliest of man.
Mike
We just turned red pill again.
Pat
Yeah, I, I, I get that. Like that might be Taking it too far. But a could definitely photo dump.
Mike
Holy. Bro, y' all could do whatever y' all want.
Pat
Those are the dudes that. Those are the dudes that thought only girls could draw or have good handwriting. You. Only girls can do cursive.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
You doing cursive, bro, that's crazy.
Mike
In school, cool. You used to really get picked on if you had really good handwriting. Yeah, bro, they call quote unquote, girly handwriting. Yeah, I had bad handwriting. I still got bad handwriting.
Pat
So I don't get the point of having good handwriting. Nobody's not. That's never stopped me from anything before. Yeah, like, at all.
Mike
Especially when they forced us to do right cursive. That used to kick my ass, bro. The way I still write my G's. Like, the way you're. The G's written on your hat, Gene. Like, the little curl at the end.
Pat
You write your G's like that curly, like, just regular.
Mike
Just G's.
Pat
Weird ass.
Mike
My season wise, it always has, like, a little cursive thing to it.
Pat
Yeah, the thing that.
Mike
I better never commit no crime. I use this on the. On a crime junkie.
Pat
Hem. If you sign something during the crime.
Mike
You'Re dumb as.
Pat
Well.
Mike
You're dumb.
Pat
But, no, our generation definitely got taught. We got taught two things that were bad. Like the cursive nobody uses anymore. And then we had to read a fucking clock. Like, the analog clock. It's just, like, for what? If y' all was gonna come out with all this, I got a clock on my phone, got a clock on my watch, got a digital clock. It's clocks everywhere, bro. You can literally drive by, like, four banks and know what time and the weather. Like, all this. Like, why did I. Why do I even have to know what the Celsius was in the first place? Like, what the was going on? Yeah, it's so much that they taught us. I get, like, certain jobs, like, use all that. You should have the basic information so you can go, but come on now. You know, I need this algebra. Still waiting on that Pythagorean theorem, I.
Mike
Think also, I feel like a lot of dudes are afraid to be themselves. I think especially in this world of, like, everybody trying to be, like, the manliest of men. I feel like people are afraid to be like. To show, like, their vulnerable side a little bit, too.
Pat
You know, some people actually get hurt when they do show up. You know, everybody have different experiences. Like, a lot of people, people hold a lot in, and then the moment they become vulnerable, they're Accepted by everybody and it's like CC and then there's a lot of people that hold some stuff in and they be come vulnerable and then they get the beat out of them.
Mike
Like, nah, N. He told you to.
Pat
Post that photo dub. Hold up dudes.
Mike
Dudes will really go through and then like post like a dark humor meme on their. On their stories.
Pat
No, for real, just cover it up, dog. Nah, for real. Niggas posting Jalen hurts highlights. I seen this much.
Mike
It's okay to be bothered. Men out there. It's okay that something bothers you. Like it's. It's not sassy if you're doing this or some things might be a little sassy, but. But there's some. The typical things. It's not, you know?
Pat
Yeah, no, no. So sometimes there's videos that I see I laughed at like a couple years ago. But as things happen to you, the shit is not as funny as what it seemed. So there's this viral meme of this dude basically experiencing a hit and run. Yeah, but he chased a dude down and he basically kept saying the same words over and over. He hit my car, he trying to leave. You don't remember that meme? He hit my car, he trying to leave. He hit my car and he trying to leave. And he chasing them all through the highway and then he finally catch up to him. That was funny to me at a point. But now, like, if a nigga hit and run with no cameras and no license plate, the nigga really got away with some shit. Like he really retro shit and got away. Like, that concept is so crazy because a lot of people think, oh, like crimes being committed against me is like, oh, I got robbed. Like, I'm not going to be in nowhere where nobody going to rob me, but somebody could actually do a hidden run in a nice place and just like, yeah, I ain't got insurance. I'm out of here, bro. And I always think, like, if I was in that situation, because the situation has happened to me before, but the person never stopped. Like, they hit me, they never stopped and I still had to get control of my car. So it was like nothing I could do to go chase them down.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
But I always think, like, what if you actively see a person trying to leave? What would you do in that situation?
Mike
I don't know. Do I have their license plate number?
Pat
They don't have a license plate, but they hopped out the car to see the damage. And then you see them like inching towards their car. Like they just like, you Having a conversation with them, they just stop talking and start walking towards this call would.
Mike
Be like, hey, where you going? Excuse me?
Pat
Hey, where are you going? What if he just respond like, nah, bro, I ain't got no insurance, bro. And I got a warrant.
Mike
And then I pull my phone out, start recording, start recording.
Pat
What a Jordan meme. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Mike
I would slowly pan my camera up or keep it at my chest like this. No, that's, that's all.
Pat
No, that's so crazy.
Mike
Cuz I'm not, I'm not the. I'm not like a, A conflict person if I don't need to.
Gene
Confrontational.
Mike
Yeah. A confrontational person if I don't need to. Yeah. So I think the only way I would be confident. Confrontational. It was like, like, hey, I grab him. Then it turns to something else. Now the cops might be coming for a different reason.
Pat
No, I'm definitely choking that out.
Guest E
Hey.
Pat
And I'm putting him back in the front seat like, yeah, officer. Look like he passed out before drinking and driving.
Mike
Look at this man.
Pat
He obviously is impaired. You see that? That was a sad ass story though. I saw what, there was this guy who was driving down the wrong side of the road. Black dude, dreads down south driving the wrong side of the road. The cops pulled him over. They call like an impaired specialist to see because they couldn't tell if he was drunk or anything. The impaired specialist said, oh, I feel like this a waste of time. Like he was driving on the wrong side of the road. He looked intoxicated. They put him in a cell. He like peed himself. Like the. Some of the inmates, other inmates was just like, yo, come get him. Blah blah. They finally checked on him. He was having a stroke the whole time. Yo. Let's take a quick break from the pod to thank today's sponsor of the episode. Earnin. Life doesn't happen biweekly, so why should Payday. The money you've earned should be in your hands. And with Earn it, it can be. You can join earning's over 4 million customers today.
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Mike
No way.
Pat
Like, ain't that crazy? It's been so many times. That's why I was talking about last week. Like, how many people get to do their jobs badly? And it, like, it actually affects their life. Like, if we. If we podcast badly, if we miss, like, 30 minutes of the podcast, like, niggas are still going to survive. Like, it might be one nigga that might. That might crash out a little bit because we having people that DM us. Yeah, that'd be crazy because we had our episode drop a little bit late last week, and we had, like, five dms. I had a death threat. Like, I was like, fuck, this is.
Mike
New when that happens, too, because, like, every week somebody complains about, like, the podcast not being up, even though most of the weeks, like, it just only happened, like, twice that it's been late for audio especially. So sometimes they. Somebody says it every week. Where's the podcast at? Where's the. I'm like, bro. So every week, somebody makes me wake up earlier with, like, stressed out, trying to figure some shit out. And half the time, it's not right because I'd be worried that it's just like, bro, shut up. It's there.
Pat
Just keep looking. You never know. Sometimes them dudes, right, bro? Like, one out of a hundred DMS is like, right? Did y' all know Y' all post it twice on your story? You check the story. It's not posted twice. They'd be like, nah, bro. They'd be like, my bad. Like, what you mean, my bad? What you mean, my bad?
Mike
You've seen this Sora AI stuff I've been seeing, like, Martin Luther King versus Malcolm X Rap Battle.
Pat
Yeah, bro, I'm not with it, bro.
Danny
I can't.
Pat
I feel like that's some satanic shit, so I can't explain it, but, like, bringing people back to life and making them do something that they would never do or they have never done. And it's like, not like they making a. To me, what I was to bring stuff to life that people might not have be able to see in real life. So, like, okay, there's a lot of people that never seen the I have a Dream Speech. Like, that'd be something you can put in AI and be like this. What it was like with color and where you can see everything going on. Not no fucking Tupac and Biggie at WWE Raw, like, what the fuck going on?
Mike
But I think this has always been happening, though, like, the evolution of this, like, technology in a sense, because there's been people that are passed away or not existent. And these producers, like south park or Celebrity Deathmatch, they used to show back in the day where they would bring characters back and have somebody play those characters. I think now it's more the wild, wild west, because now the consumers, the regular consumers have access to make those type of things now. So it's, like, different. I think it's a little different because it's just like the way music was made. It's easier for, like, a lot of these SoundCloud rappers, like old school sound SoundCloud rappers to make music and become famous. Because the process of making music is a lot cheaper to do. Yeah. So now we have access to create. I think obviously people are using it for dumb shit. I think people are always gonna use technology for dumb shit. But I do think there's gonna be some good use cases where, like, in 50 years, it's gonna be like, well, how else do you guys create this? I think it just makes the professionals have to elevate a little bit more to make sure there's, like a pure distinction between AI and this. And then, you know what? The work that the people, the professionals have done, too.
Gene
Yeah, but who. Who won the battle?
Pat
What battle? I think Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Oh, I think Malcolm X. There wasn't even that versus Biggie.
Mike
No, no, there was. It was Malcolm X. It was another battle rap.
Pat
Oh, it was a battle rap.
Mike
Battle rap. And Malcolm has some bars.
Gene
I think it had to be Malcolm.
Mike
Yeah. I think, you know, Malcolm has to go to places where Martin, you know, might not want.
Pat
I mean, if you want to dive into that, I got Malcolm 2:1. Debatable, though. Debatable. No, but the other thing that AI, I will say there's one thing that AI has done very, very well. There's like this trend going on where people. You were taking, like, battle rap, famous battle rap rounds, or famous songs and turning them into, like, if they were made in the 80s.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
And I heard, like, mario, let me love you.
Mike
And it was like, somebody did really good.
Pat
Oh, my God, it was so fire.
Mike
Many men, one.
Pat
Oh, did they? Oh, man.
Mike
And it's fire, bro. Like, it's like jazz, jazzy and like that.
Pat
Not if the. If the artist, like I don't like it not coming from the artist. If the artist could like acknowledge that. I'm sure a lot of them have some pride things going on, but like if they were the ones to put that out and they were the ones that put a remix of that, I would really with it.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
But if it comes from like an AI person, like I'm not gonna keep tuning back in, I feel like.
Mike
But those ones are a little bit more. I feel like when people do stuff like that, it's a little more skill involved. Yeah. They're choosing AI to like speed up their processes.
Pat
I like when even if there's like a selection part of like what's the better version, at least that person has enough talent to know, like, this is the one I'm going.
Mike
And I feel like people don't realize AI has been around forever. I think it's just. I mean, Google search is a. As a has been out forever and that's technically a type of AI. It's just AI is getting more advanced. So I don't know. I don't think it's always a bad thing. I just think people are always gonna use things for bad.
Pat
Oh yeah. Okay. You also be surprised about how many people don't know what technology we currently have that you can just go get. You know what I mean? Like you could go up to somebody and just be like, hey, did you know if I'm recording on an iPhone just something as simple as this, that if I'm really shaky and it's really rattly that when I show you the video, it'll be straight, yeah, somebody, but not hell no.
Danny
Right.
Pat
So there's some simple technology that people aren't even caught up. So when they see that AI shit like that AI shit like it's somebody out here that just be like, damn, when was Pac on wwe? Is somebody out here still dumbfounded? And they'll never find out because they get old people. Yeah. They get their news from Facebook. Like these niggas like still think LeBron got traded to. To the Golden State warriors and he playing with Steph right now. You think is there cooked?
Mike
I think too, it's just like people are delusional. Just like the. The guy that's suing LeBron basically for doing the announcement thing and he. I guess he bought tickets to the last game, right?
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
And now he's suing LeBron. I think he came out exactly talking about it. I forgot the.
Pat
I Wouldn't say nothing bad about him. If he's suing Brian for some shit that ain't got nothing to do with him, what are you going to do to us?
Mike
I mean, he can. It's like, do your thing now.
Pat
LeBron got them lawyers, though. Do fuck around, lose 500, 000. He don't even got around with Brian. I'm not suing no billionaires unless I got a strong ass.
Mike
Unless the. The lawyer wants to work pro bono.
Pat
Yeah, bro, like, imagine suing somebody and never seeing them. Yeah, like, you're never gonna see him. Bron's not showing up to court, buddy.
Guest E
What's good, man? Y' all feeling pretty good?
Mike
Pretty good.
Pat
Appreciate you, bro. How you feeling, all right?
Guest E
I'm good, bro. Just calling Colonial.
Mike
I got a question for you, man. What's something that you're into that other people might find strange?
Guest E
Oh, man, that's gonna be that foreplay, man. I ain't all that foreplay shit. You feel me?
Mike
You're not into it? Nah.
Pat
Oh, okay.
Guest E
Straight to it. You feel me? I think it's unnecessary sometimes. You feel me?
Pat
Oh, yeah. Women hate you for sure. Like, absolutely. Like, does this. This. Does sex. Like, who. Does this work for you? Are you with women? That also.
Guest E
Yeah, it worked.
Pat
Oh, yeah.
Mike
What don't you like about foreplay?
Guest E
I mean, all that kissing, man, I'm the type of. I swear real easy, man. I swear when I eat. And, man, I can't be doing all that, bro. That's about the up to get down, bro. My ball's gonna be sweaty by the time she get to him. You feel me? I can skip over all that now.
Pat
You were taking time bomb from being musty.
Mike
It's crazy.
Pat
That's basically what you said. You're like, damn, I'm already. Already kind of stink now if I sweat.
Guest E
I mean, man, you.
Mike
You feel me?
Guest E
Whenever you about to get you some neck, bro, you feel. You just want to make sure you, you know, everything a one.
Mike
Wait.
Guest E
Everything's straight across the board.
Gene
Some neck.
Mike
Wait, are you not into foreplay?
Guest E
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that neck, bro.
Mike
But isn't getting head. Yeah, I'm saying, isn't getting head considered foreplay, though?
Pat
Yes.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Nah, I wouldn't say that's the main course. No, I wouldn't say that's the main course. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't think. I don't think oral sex is foreplay. It's sex, literally.
Mike
I consider that foreplay.
Pat
No, that's not foreplay.
Guest E
Because you don't Sound like you be trying to get that neck, bro. You be catching this.
Pat
We ain't never had no either, huh?
Mike
Yeah.
Guest E
Not at all.
Mike
That boy.
Pat
Missionary bike.
Mike
Yeah. Oh, man.
Guest E
Wait, you agree me, though?
Gene
Yeah, I agree.
Guest E
Right.
Mike
Do you.
Pat
You think that's foreplay?
Gene
That's not the.
Danny
That's not.
Pat
No, no, no. Listen, listen. But I'm saying.
Mike
Who is that?
Guest E
Is that Jean?
Pat
Yes. If. So what? So what I'm saying. So what I'm saying is if that could possibly be the main course, which it can in some situations, like vice versa, oral sex could be the main course. That could be the main thing that we do. So technically, that's not foreplay, if that's all you could do, because nobody can.
Mike
Do the same thing.
Gene
For everybody to just do that.
Mike
Foreplay is just not kissing.
Pat
Giving or getting hit is sex, bro. This is not foreplay.
Mike
Thank you. So you're eating a girl out. That's not.
Guest E
Y' all up with this.
Pat
That's sex.
Guest E
I don't be giving that out neither, though.
Pat
Yo, you don't give out Here. Oh, this. You are a woman's worst nightmare. This. Wait, wait, this is Amish.
Guest E
Nah, nigga, I'm from the west, bro. I'm from la, bro.
Pat
You feel me? Oh, so you saying all. No, no, LA dudes do foreplay? Pimping his pimp.
Guest E
All right. Nah, I can't speak for all these niggas pimping his.
Mike
Pimping.
Guest E
These be wilding.
Mike
But okay, does this. Does this count with girls? Because you don't sound like you're in a relationship right now, right?
Guest E
What you mean, bro?
Mike
Oh, this is this. This is what's happening in your relationship.
Guest E
I mean, I give my girl a little. You feel.
Danny
We.
Guest E
We kiss, like, hey, how you doing? You come home from work, you feel me?
Pat
Okay, you talking about something. Wait, wait, okay.
Mike
He.
Pat
He talking about something else? Because sometimes I get where you coming from. Now, I know exactly what you're talking about. You're talking about. You're just saying the quality of women that you're around. You not putting your mouth all over them because you got a girl.
Mike
That's what I'm saying.
Pat
Or you got a main. I ain't gonna say you got a girl, you cheating on her, but you got a mane.
Guest E
You saying like, nah, bro, come on.
Pat
Bro. I was trying to put it together. My bad, bro. It's a different perspective. Hey, content make you do some crazy. My fault, bro.
Guest E
It's all good. But look, the way you stand it. Look, bro, go ahead, the way you sounded, bro.
Mike
Go ahead, go ahead, Cut off battle. It's just like, all right, you got it, bro. Go ahead.
Guest E
All right, all right. I was about to say I'm hella picky, bro. You feel me? Like with my women, bro. Like, I dead ass. Like I could. You feel me? I don't know. I look at somebody, bro, and I'll take it for what it's worth. But then it could be something, bro, and not, you know, that's just gonna.
Mike
Put me off, bro.
Guest E
It don't matter what the. It could be the smallest, bro.
Pat
So you said. But where are you picky at? Are picky, like, oh, you're not picky enough to turn this girl down. You just picky enough not to do any foreplay with.
Guest E
Not to with her for the long run, bro. I just need some.
Pat
That's not a good type of picky. Like the picky supposed to be like, you're not talking to her at all. This talk about no full play for you, girl.
Guest E
I could still get some neck off. You feel me? I'm just not really trying to. You feel me?
Mike
But I get if you're saying. If you're talking about girls that you're not in a relationship with and you don't want to do foreplay, it's just like the one night stands that you might be describing. That's. I understand that. That's like you just trying to get. Was it your rocks off, what they call it?
Pat
Yeah, we talking about your mane. That's what we want.
Guest E
You do you even with her. I ain't trying to do all that kissing. And we about to, bro. I just need to get right to it, bro.
Mike
Turn around. You feel me?
Guest E
Yeah.
Pat
A Handmaid's tale episode. This is terrible.
Guest E
I ain't no kinky ass, bro. You feel me? I don't know.
Mike
Hey, I guess everybody has their own way. If it works for you, it works for you.
Gene
I guess also, oral sex is a common form of foreplay.
Pat
I don't give a fuck what.
Mike
Yeah, come on now.
Pat
You do what? What foreplay you do for 15, 20 minutes outside of.
Guest E
Outside of oral for 15 minutes, bro.
Pat
Can't get no better than that. All right.
Guest E
All right, man. Y' all too, man. Appreciate it. What's going on?
Mike
What up? What up?
Gene
What's happening?
Mike
I got a question for you, bro.
Danny
What's up?
Mike
All right. What's something that you're into that other people might find strange?
Danny
I really like, like, going to like, mosh pits and like, just punching people. He's hurting them.
Pat
Wait, wait. Okay, my next question is, do you know all the artists that you're going to these concerts to enter the mosh pit?
Danny
Yeah. Like, I went to a Playboy cardi the other day.
Mike
And where are you punching these people? Like, in the face, like ribbon.
Danny
Like, wherever I can. Sometimes the elbow. Sometimes it's the uppercut.
Pat
But if you're doing this through. If you're doing this through a music. If you're doing this through music, like, are you really feeling the music and doing this because that's technically what a mosh pit is? Or are you, like, very. Are you very conscious of your surroundings and you're just, like, looking for people to punch?
Danny
It's like a mixture of both. Like, I'm enjoying myself, dancing, vibing out, and then say, like, it's mainly like. Like, when, like, people get too close to me and, like, they're all sweaty and nasty. Like. Like, I have to, like, get them away from me, like, somehow. So, like, you know, I'll just give them, like, an uppercut, and it's cheap dancing. Like, nothing happens.
Mike
I just.
Pat
I just feel like that's not fair because most people are doing it through, like, the thrill of music, at least. It's like an art to it. I feel like you kind of cutting the line by, like, just punching people because you frustrated.
Mike
Has anybody confronted you, though?
Pat
Nah.
Danny
Like, most of the time, it's like. Like, my area where I am. It's a lot of, like, Indian people and, like, white people, and they're not, like, they're. They're not like, the most. What's the word? Confrontational. Like, they'll kind of just let it happen. But now sometimes. Sometimes it's, like, deserved. Like, I was. I was somewhere with my girl at the. I got a little too close. I almost pushed her over. So then she told me, and I was like, all right. And I made my way a little bit past, getting closer and closer. And then when the beat dropped, I just came and I turned. Basically tackling.
Pat
Didn'T even make it natural.
Mike
Two seconds into the song, like, wait, what's your message? What's your message to all mosh pitters?
Danny
Hey, keep having fun out there. You know what I'm saying? Keep dancing. Keep. Keep enjoying it. And I'm coming.
Mike
Here we go.
Guest F
Is this Mike?
Mike
This is. This is Mike.
Guest F
Oh, my gosh. Where's Tat's black ass?
Pat
I feel like everybody. Everybody on this cast is black.
Guest F
I mean, Paige isn't black.
Mike
That's true.
Guest F
I mean, she's Light skinned. But she's not black.
Pat
Woman Page is a Caucasian.
Guest F
Wait, before you guys start. Before you guys start, I just listened to the episode where you said that Magic Johnson sneezed on the dude. That was the funniest I've ever heard.
Guest E
What?
Guest F
It was. It was a dude.
Mike
I don't.
Guest F
It was a celebrity question. You guys asked it and the dude was like, magic Johnson sneezed on me. And then you guys are like, no.
Pat
No, we're not doing what a Jordan mean man.
Guest E
No, no, no, no, no.
Pat
Hold on, hold on. Can we.
Gene
Can we address, like, why it sounds like she's either calling from heaven or like in a hallway on the phone.
Pat
Or like a parking garage or something?
Guest F
Oh, yeah, I'm at work. I'm sorry.
Mike
No, you're good. You're good.
Pat
Give out tickets for a look.
Guest F
I'm a housekeeper.
Mike
Oh, okay. Big ass house. What's something you're into that other people might find strange?
Guest F
Oh, I didn't answer that question. I answered the advice question.
Mike
Oh, go ahead then. That doesn't.
Guest F
I. I think it's. I think that people who don't have kids should be able to give advice because I was on TikTok and I seen this baby. The baby was beautiful, but the baby's covered in crusty snot Kool Aid. The onesies just basically red. It's supposed to be white, but the onesie was drenched in Kool Aid. The baby's dirty. And I commented. I'm like, okay, so why is the baby dirty? And everybody started coming for me. Oh, I'm a crusty ass bitch. I'm skinny. Go home and crank your braces. That's why your forehead is big. They started coming for me and I was just like, okay, but the baby. The baby is still dirty.
Pat
So it cooks you. I ain't gonna lie.
Guest F
You're rude.
Pat
No, no, not bad. You know, don't make me feel bad.
Mike
Would you deem what you said advice or was it just a statement?
Guest F
I asked the question. I said, why is the baby dirty? Because the baby's in public. Why are you guys in public and the baby's dirty again?
Pat
Yeah, I feel like.
Guest F
I feel like the child. The child is a representation of you. So if you're going out in public and your baby is crusty, what does that say about you?
Mike
But I'm not arguing that point. I'm just trying to.
Pat
I am what I am. Because it's like that meme where you, like, see somebody with flaws and then you don't know the background of it. Like what if the baby had a skin condition? The shit just happened. The they had to rush out the house so they don't have no backup clothes for the baby and they just trying to get they did.
Guest F
Well then why post the baby on the Internet? Pat, why are you posting the baby on the Internet if the baby looking nasty?
Pat
Okay, you got a little point. A kind of little point.
Guest F
Exactly. But you're not about to post. You're not about to post your baby looking crusty with snot crusted up.
Pat
But.
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Pat
I will say the one thing you, the one thing you don't know, it's like, it's like a parent rule is like no matter what another kid got going on, you don't comment on that other kid. And that's only something. That's why they was at your cap. That's only something somebody with a kid would know, but somebody that's killers like you. You commenting on another kid. Regardless, what's gonna happen? And what does your comment help?
Guest F
Go take the, take the baby home and clean the baby up.
Pat
Okay. How many followers you got? Like, why would they listen to your account? You know what I mean?
Guest F
Wait, Because I'm smart. So the question, I don't have any kids. I don't have any kids for a reason. I ain't got the money for no kids. And I'll be seeing people all the time with children that they can't take care of. And it hurts, it hurts my heart because it's like I just know that if I was in that, I mean, I just wouldn't have any children.
Pat
So I'm not feeling so smart. You got sympathy for people that you don't even know if they need it or not?
Mike
Yeah, I was, I was going to ask, did you, the person you commented on, did you know them personally or was this just a random person of a random person on the Internet?
Guest F
It was, it was just a random person on TikTok. I'd be trolling sometimes on TikTok.
Pat
That's what I'm saying. You're trolling.
Guest E
Yeah.
Guest F
Why is this. But my question is, why is this dirty crusty baby on my for you page?
Pat
Look how you talking about a baby? That's crazy. She got I'm so.
Guest F
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Mike
No, I get the. I get. I agree with your concept, but I also don't agree with that. You're trying to give advice.
Gene
I think she got trauma from being a crusty baby.
Pat
Oh, maybe. Maybe she was around some crusty babies or.
Guest F
Oh, well, I'm just not used to seeing babies look like that, so that's why I was just confused. But I get where you guys.
Pat
I get where you guys are coming from.
Mike
Yeah, as long as you care. I just.
Guest F
Yeah, I actually care.
Mike
You said you'd be trolling, so it's like. I don't know if it's like, oh.
Guest F
Yeah, I wasn't trolling then, because I don't. I don't. I don't troll when it comes to kids. I wasn't trolling. I was really confused. Why is the baby dirty in public?
Pat
I'll give it you.
Guest F
Like, I was genuinely confused.
Pat
You're trying to bully them into making sure they baby not dirty in public. Yeah.
Guest F
Cause you never know what strangers gonna say on the Internet. So don't post your baby looking like that on the Internet.
Pat
So you're trying to get him a warning just in case it was somebody that's actually evil that's gonna comment this. You gonna comment this to me? I got it.
Guest F
Yeah, you got it, Pat.
Mike
Okay.
Guest F
You got it, Pat.
Pat
I know. I know who I'm talking.
Gene
You never know what a stranger might.
Mike
All right, you have a good one.
Guest F
You too. Bye.
Pat
Yo, what's the deal? Yeah. Yeah. Welcome. Crashing podcast.
Guest E
Nice, nice. Thank you.
Pat
Nice, nice, nice.
Mike
Where you from?
Guest E
I'm from Nigeria.
Mike
Hey, my brother Al Far.
Guest E
Yes, exactly. I'm good, bro. I'm good. I'm good. How you did?
Mike
I did fine. I. Fine. I'm fine. Yeah.
Pat
Yeah. Do me next, bro.
Mike
Do you next is crazy.
Pat
All right, bro, I got a question for you. What's something you're into that other people find strange?
Guest E
Yeah, so I had said that. Yeah, nipple stuff.
Pat
Like.
Guest E
Yeah, just in general, not like. Yeah, like nipple play. When I was in. In uni, I remember one of my friends telling me that, like, her ex boyfriend was really into him. Her doing, like, kissing or licking his nipples. And I was like, what the. That's. That's crazy. That's random. But then a couple years ago, I had some very interesting experiences that made me realize that I was wrong. So ever since then, I've been like, yeah, that's. That's my. And I told a couple of my friends about It. It wasn't.
Pat
Okay. Okay, my next question is, how do you introduce this to women? Are you still with the same woman?
Guest E
No, I'm not.
Pat
So how do you. So how do you introduce. How do you introduce this to women?
Guest E
So when just after kissing, you can just, like, how you push the head down before you're about to get it? Push him down.
Pat
You asked the question I was talking about. I guess I expected, like, more of a conversation. Give her no words or nothing, just putting it to it. Like, what the. No conversation said push her head towards it. How else.
Mike
What the. We thought that you're gonna come in. We thought you were gonna come at it more from a point of, like, a conversation before.
Guest E
Like, I'm into this.
Mike
Into this? Yeah. Yeah. What the.
Guest E
I don't think. I'm trying to think.
Mike
That's just.
Guest F
That's.
Mike
That' big gamble that put all his chips the middle of the table. Said, I'mma put her head down to my nipples and see if she likes it.
Pat
Like, you honestly could. You could lose a girl that's, like, actually really into you over this.
Mike
Like, that's.
Pat
That's risky as.
Guest E
I don't think so.
Pat
I don't think so.
Guest E
I don't think it's that deep. I don't think it's that deep.
Mike
So this. This has worked for you every time you. You push their head towards your nipple?
Guest E
Yeah, so far. I mean, I haven't had maybe. Yeah, I haven't had any backlash.
Mike
So.
Pat
Okay, this is. I feel like the question should stop here. I don't really don't want to know any more info. I don't want to think about it anymore. Yo, yo, what's the deal?
Guest E
Yo, what up? What y' all got going on?
Pat
Podcasting type Gene here, too, saying dummy. Hey, what up, Gene?
Guest E
It's crazy because I was just talking about y' all boys when y' all hit me up, bro. I. I was acting like a little. That ain't.
Mike
Ain't have.
Pat
Sound like one, too. No. Who you was talking to us about?
Guest E
Oh, my dudes, actually, I was talking to. I was talking to her about y'. All.
Mike
I was talking to my old girl.
Guest E
About y' all because she know I'd be watching y', all, like. Like a.
Pat
Okay, what you say about us behind our back?
Guest E
Well, I said, pat, he a ass. He. He. Mike like to do too much.
Mike
You feel me?
Guest E
He He a little slow, but that's not the here or there.
Pat
And he's just talking. All right, I'll ask you a Question, bro.
Mike
You got it, bro. You got this.
Pat
Your show, bro.
Guest E
I'm seriously just talking, bro. Y' all know. Y' all know how excited this moment is right here?
Pat
No, no, I. I can definitely feel the glazing, bro. I got a question for you.
Guest E
Something else you can feel.
Mike
Whoa. What the.
Guest E
Not like that.
Mike
How you meant.
Guest E
It's not like that now.
Pat
That is so crazy.
Mike
That is crazy.
Pat
I'm literally going to sue. All right.
Mike
I thought he was doing that on purpose.
Pat
I got a question for you.
Guest E
What.
Pat
Who is that? What opinion would you defend into your last breath, bruh?
Guest E
Eating ass is okay. It's okay to put your face in the booty hole, long as it's clean. You feel me?
Pat
Okay.
Mike
That's your thing.
Guest E
Like, my thing is be like, oh, bro, you. You this and that. If you eat ass. My thing is if you eat the. From the back. What's wrong with going an inch and a half? It do seem like.
Pat
Yeah, I would feel like it's an inch and a half. That's some good math.
Guest E
It's probably less than an inch and a half, is there?
Pat
This man has ate a lot of ass.
Mike
He got the.
Pat
He got the whole distance down.
Guest E
Not a lot of it. I. I had my favorite times with it.
Mike
Not a lot of. Oh, so you're like a consistent ass eater.
Guest E
Correct. With the same person, though?
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Yeah. Okay. It's still the ass. You know what I'm saying?
Mike
Oh, yeah.
Guest E
Faithfully.
Pat
I have.
Guest E
No, but I won't eat a tomato on my burger, though.
Mike
Fuck out of here.
Pat
Oh, I feel it. I feel it. One got citrus, the other one got. Never mind. Okay, I got. I got a question for you. I got a question for you.
Guest E
All right.
Pat
Did you ever eat another girl ass before your girl's ass?
Guest E
I can't say that I have. I can't say that I have also the.
Mike
The only asked you 8. It was the girl that you with right now.
Pat
No, he just can't say that he has. That's not. That's not how you use that saying.
Mike
You just like.
Pat
Yeah. People say, like, when you say I can't say that I have means like.
Guest E
No.
Pat
Like, I don't recall the Using the same the wrong way.
Guest E
I don't recall eating anyone else's ass with my girls.
Pat
But that means you don't remember, though.
Mike
Yeah. You don't remember.
Guest E
Oh, no, I do remember.
Mike
We got you. We got you, bro.
Pat
No, one more try. One more try. So you've eaten another girl's ass before?
Danny
Yes.
Pat
But I'M saying, like. Okay, so does your girl care about that? Does your girl know that?
Guest E
No. Yeah, babe, another shorty asked before yours.
Pat
Did you introduce that to your girl? She introduced that to you. Was she already into it?
Guest E
Oh, yeah, man. She was never into it. I just put my head down one day on her. You feel me? I just went down that inch and a half. Not. Not like that, though. Not like that.
Mike
No, you definitely, definitely knows, bro.
Gene
She knows your munch.
Guest E
Oh. Oh, well, yeah, one of us has to be.
Pat
Oh, damn.
Guest E
I swear, y'.
Mike
All.
Guest E
One of y' all said. One of y' all said on the podcast, at least one of y' all have to be a for the relationship to work.
Pat
That sound like some.
Guest E
One of y' all did say that. You said one of us had to be a hoe for the relationship.
Pat
Wait a minute. I ain't say she just started eating ass.
Guest E
Hey, hey, nah, that. That's. That's only for the bravest, though, okay?
Mike
Oh, you say you feel like you have to be brave to eat ass.
Guest E
Honestly, if you willing to let your girl go all day, you know, sweating and doing whatever she doing, then come back home and you eat it just like that. Then you would eat ass.
Pat
Okay, it's okay. Just skip that. Let's just skip that part. Okay. So what if she approached you like, okay, I want to eat your ass.
Guest E
Oh, no, that's out the door immediately. I don't play like that.
Pat
So she can't do nothing extra freaky to you.
Guest E
She.
Mike
She.
Guest E
The most she can do is put my balls in her mouth. And she better spread lightly with that. There's the most she can do.
Mike
I was going to thread lightly. All right, bro.
Guest E
Yeah.
Mike
Hey, bro.
Guest E
Hey. No, no. Weird.
Mike
But I.
Guest E
With y' all the heaviest, bro.
Pat
Nah, I appreciate you, bro.
Mike
Appreciate you. All right, bro.
Guest E
All right.
Danny
Love y'.
Mike
All. You Muslim?
Guest E
Nah, I just like the name. I just like the look of the Italian. It's Danny. It's Danny, bro.
Mike
This shit is like.
Pat
No, I saw that. Yeah.
Mike
This whole thing is Arabic. He was like, oh, what the hell?
Pat
Nah, nigga. Using it for aesthetics.
Guest E
It's crazy.
Mike
Yo.
Guest E
Yo, absolutely. You gotta be mysterious.
Mike
All right, bro. You have a good one.
Guest E
All right, Love, fool.
Pat
All right, Brody.
Mike
I think this is the first time I've had. We've had a friend get into, like, Twitter controversy.
Pat
Oh, Hasan. Yeah, yeah.
Mike
That we actually know the real, like. We've seen him around his. So basically, Hasan was going viral over the weekend or maybe last week, something.
Pat
Yeah, with the mucinex. Guy, right?
Mike
Yeah. That for shocking. Supposedly shocking his dog on. On stream.
Pat
He didn't shock his dog. His dog Paul got caught.
Mike
Like, something happened.
Pat
His dog got. Paul got caught, like in the gap and like, yelped. But at the same time, Hassan was reaching for something. He wasn't reaching for something, but I think he was turning around.
Mike
No, he was reaching forward, but he was reaching. He said he was reaching for some Zen or some.
Pat
Yeah. But also at the same time, she had got up and then he's like, oh, go sit down. So, like, people, you know, a lot of people been waiting for him, like, to have a big flaw. And you can tell, like, a lot of people jumped on the opportunity to bash him without doing no research.
Mike
That's the craziest.
Pat
Even. Even no neck bassers were on it.
Mike
There's this one dude that I actually fuck with his contenting Wade. And you can see he was like, to the point is to the point. I know it's true. Is because I've walked Hassan's dog before.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
And he gave me. And walked him without a leash. So his dog is extremely well trained.
Danny
Yeah.
Mike
If you tell him to walk and walk right next to you. But he gave me the. The little button thingy, the clicker. And he said, this is just so that she doesn't get too far from you. Don't worry, it doesn't shock her. It just. It's just an E collar. He legit told me that as he gave me something. So it's just like, interesting seeing when people say stuff like that.
Pat
Man. Son's dog is so well trained. We can hoop for three hours and not lose track of his dog. Like, imagine if I did that with my toddler. Like, my son would be on the back of a milk carton.
Mike
The other part, people are like, oh, the dog has to sit there for eight hours of why he streams. And the other people be having their dogs in like crates while they go to work. Or the dogs usually stay in one spot when they go to work. If you watch your dog, what they do when you're not there, they are laying down all day. And he gets a lot of exercise. I don't want to cape for Hasan the whole.
Pat
No, I'm caving, bro. What's happening? I'm willing to take on all smoke. What's the dude name that's hitting his name? Los. That's how you say Los, the fat dude.
Mike
And then the Wade was. Was. Wade was talking shit about it. I like and I like Wade. That's the fucked up part. And he was like, he'll box us on. I'm like, what the. I'm like, all right, he boxes a lot. We can box.
Pat
But I also get that that's what. That's why I keep it. The only people I really hate doing it are the people that are like, seriously, like trying to take him down and then using it to like, further their, like political takes.
Gene
That's what it's for.
Pat
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike
He said a lot more dumb. He said a lot more dumb. That could have been ma. About.
Pat
Yeah, but. But they joke, but they also. It's like some people that's not joking. Yeah, the jokes. Like, if you do that for a living and you stream for a living, like, I get the streaming world. Like, it's. They need content and if they already are at odds with somebody, of course they're gonna like jump on.
Mike
That's why it would be so hard for me to be in like the streaming world sometimes.
Pat
I can't. I couldn't be no streamer, bro. Not no full time streamer.
Mike
Yeah. No, because sometimes it's like again, the, the beefs. Like the. I just never had like beef with somebody and I have to like repeat my beef about this person on the Internet just for entertainment.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
Like, I have to continually talk about why I don't like this person. Because I don't like somebody. I just avoid them. Yeah. I just don't talk about them. And something like that happened. Or I get when you maybe have to explain what happened because obviously if you don't explain things, narratives do run. But I've just seen Twitter. Twitter just like a interesting place. Or the Internet is just like, like anybody would run with anybody. I've seen so many, like false, like these like meme pages will post like false things about somebody and. And they're clearly joking. They clearly. And they clearly might be joking, but people in the comments don't realize that that person is. Is just trolling.
Pat
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't fuck with the, the streaming shit. There's no way that you're gonna break the news to me that you don't like me. And I gotta find out when a bunch of other pro. Because I'm not watching your stream live. I'm scrolling on the Internet where I'm getting mentioned somewhere. And I found out you made a 30 minute vlog about a dispute that we had over a chair. And like that. That's why I can never get in that world. Like, kudos to them. Like I love that they can make money off that. But if that was my. I can say this now, obviously, because I got the podcast, but if that was my way of making money, I'd just be like, I'm good because I' ma hit you up. Yeah. And I' ma see. I'm gonna see what left. My first thing is like, what level are we talking here? Like, you talking about some. Like, we can't. We're not gonna acknowledge each other no more. We don't with each other. Or you feel some type of way about it? Like, I need to know now because, like, before that stream over, they gonna hear a knock on that door. I promise you that. I guarantee. Like, Because I'm way too paranoid for that.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
I'm way too paranoid to be thinking now I'm at an event with you. I don't know if you really feel that way or something. Like. No, but I get why the streaming stuff happened, because if that was my only thing I could do, I definitely would stream back. Like, I'm definitely. If I know that we never gonna see each other. Oh, I'm hopping on that street and I'm gonna take it further, bro. You're not gonna say like, oh, that's my guy still. But he fucked up with that. It's like, no, my stream is gonna say fuck you.
Mike
And I feel like also people want you to hold your friends accountable out loud, too. It's just like. Like, I would never, like, if Pat up. Right. And he's never will at all. No, I don't say that. But I wouldn't, like, go on the Internet and bash him the most. I would say that. Yeah, he up and he has to, you know, do what he has to do. But I would also have that conversation.
Pat
With him way before.
Mike
Before that.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
Yeah. Hey, I'm just going to do this because I need to, like, actually talk. Cuz obviously we're public figures now.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
So you have to just address what happened.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
It's funny that I assumed that you would be the one that would.
Pat
I mean, that's the only scenario you could pick. You know what I'm.
Mike
I feel it.
Pat
You know what I'm saying? I would, you know, I. I would not. I just wouldn't get on the Internet. Like, I'm not gonna get bullied on the Internet into saying something. I'm not Raja Jackson. Like, nobody can make me feel like a. By typing. Don't y' all think I'm a?
Mike
Yeah. Like what I think people try to win against the Internet. A lot. And you're never gonna win against ever.
Pat
Whatever they think.
Mike
They think. Yeah. And they're trolling. If they're trolling, they're just gonna just keep trolling while you're trying to be serious.
Pat
Yeah. The thing is, if somebody made just like that dude right there, there. If he made a viral post, the one that was at the beginning episode. If you made a viral post and said crash on his podcast is sexist.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
And that went viral. And I was checking everything and I see like, damn, it's not even 50, 50, 80 of the Internet right now thinks that we're sexist.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Guess what next podcast gonna be, man. Don't lean into it now.
Mike
I just went, but shave my head like Andrew Tate.
Pat
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also. But I'm also not gonna to fight it. I'm just going to let. Cuz I feel like anytime someone does something good, I feel like Hassan talks about this. Anytime somebody does something bad or good is going to come to light. Who was the right person in. In due time. Yeah, it's going to happen. Only thing you could do is keep trucking along, bro. Because there's so many people. I mean, there's people in our comments where there's no evidence of like what Hassan did either way, regardless of what you think. Like, obviously we think it's not. Obviously people think it is. Whatever you think, there's no evidence that says regardless. And there's people in there spitting like it's facts.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
So it's just like, you can't stop them. Like you were never gonna stop them.
Mike
Because I was like. I was like. It's never wrong for somebody to be initially mad about something, but to make such a strong statement about something you. You might not be a hundred percent sure of. It's just like, okay, and now you're saying something. It's just. I don't know.
Pat
I do. I do my research. Like, obviously, like with friends, I'm a little bit more biased. Like, if there's like even a little evidence. Evidence that Mike didn't kill five people in Oklahoma in 2003.
Mike
Oh, my God.
Pat
So like, even if there is a little evidence, like, but as soon as there's no evidence, he's not. That's my guy. No, he ain't doing it. But if he get found guilty, man, it's fucked up. Hey, I didn't know.
Mike
And I get that too. Like with friends, like, I'd rather. I'd rather go down being wrong and.
Pat
Stuff like that and just apologize out there just be like, I didn't know he killed five people in Oklahoma in 2003. 9. 7.
Mike
Just People, by the. By what they. They showed. But I guess there's difference between friends and, like, people. You kind of like, acquaintances.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
I don't. There are some people. There's some shit that's happened before that people have sent me. And like, isn't this. This dude that you know, this guy that you know and he hit somebody, right?
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
And I'm like, I don't. We're not friends like that. Like, I don't know him personally to see what he does somebody does at home or anything like that. So it's just like.
Pat
Like, the thing. The thing about me is, yeah, I'm not even gonna get into that, but I really, like, I. I'm very selective in who I hang out. Like, once I see you do some wild shit as a woman man or something.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
And I know potentially, like, people are gonna find out one day and they're gonna link me to this. Like, I can't rock with you no more.
Mike
There's like, friends that you have. Your friends that you have during you go to certain events for, right? Yeah, there's friends, you know, you can't be around them when there's drinks around. It's like, I don't want to be around you. You. You be talking crazy.
Pat
Hugging.
Mike
Yeah, it's just. Does this get overly aggressive?
Pat
Yeah, hugging. I can't stand a little huggy ass. Like, bro, you hugged every in here, man.
Mike
Or the dude that starts getting paranoid out of nowhere like, bro, why the. That dude looking at me like, right.
Gene
You got a homie that just be pointing at.
Mike
And yeah, like, bro, calm down.
Pat
Or do wild. Just because there's women around. Like, why would you jump on that nigga's Ferrari? Like, I just don't. I don't understand why you did that.
Mike
Because there was.
Pat
Because there's women around. I don't. I don't understand why you're jumping on the. Like, you trying to be low key. That's the one thing about me is, like, if I walk into a bar club, I'm really the only people I want to know. There are people that I went up to like, yo, I'm here at the club. I don't need the person I'm in a section with to be jumping on top of the booth and shit like that. Like, yo, look at us. Look at us. Not everybody looking at us, because you. You think you the man and like that. You know what I'm saying, like, such a stupid ass down.
Mike
I've seen people. This happens that I feel like more with girl when it's girls birthdays. But I've seen, like, the best friends of the birthday person try to have main character syndrome.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
And it's just like. Especially when they're trying to orchestrate everything.
Gene
Yeah.
Mike
Just like, they get too. Like, we're in the booth. It's like. Or who. Who's pitching it? You start saying pitching it for drinks before you get the drinks and shit.
Pat
Like that and that. And that's my pet peeve. Because I feel like if you're, like, emotionally aware of, like, the situation that's going on, you know that person is doing that. So, you know, eventually it's gonna come to you. And your biggest thing is, like, no, I'm standing up for myself. This girl got me up right? You can literally see the girl. Make sure y' all put y' all coats over here.
Mike
Here.
Pat
Make sure y' all do this. Don't do this. Don't. When she come out, everybody stand up and clap. And you, like, she gonna say something to me tonight, and I gotta make sure I stand up for myself. She'll be like, we don't wear red shoes. What are these all the shoes I had? How about that? You be ready for that. Yeah, I ain't playing that shit. I ain't these other niggas. I tell you that.
Mike
I was just at an event where Gina already knows, but we're at an event, and we. We weren't even late to the event. Right? I wasn't late to the event. We just was. We. We know our process, and we. I know I can set up and get ready. It was 15 minutes before the event started. Right.
Pat
Got it.
Mike
I know we can get set up before 15 minutes. It's fine. But then it's like, you guys came 15%. You guys came 15 minutes before and this and that, this and that, and. And I was like, hey, we're here. Now what do we do to make this process go faster? Cause we're not gonna keep. I hate when people. When we're already. There's time. There's a time crunch. You're complaining about a time crunch, and we're wasting our time talking about the time crunch. Let's get the movie. It's like, no, no, no. I just need you to acknowledge that this is unprofessional. I said. I said, okay.
Pat
Okay.
Mike
Thank you.
Gene
I didn't let her finish her sentence. I asked one question, Got the app.
Pat
I was like, all right, I can't stand that. Or when people don't understand, like, what's going on in what situation you're in. I had somebody call my name and tell me that it looks like something's about to fall out of my pocket. And I was in the middle of the fucking street, walking across the street, so they made me look down and look at something, and it was just like a lanyard that is supposed to be out of my pocket, nigga. So you got me stopping in the middle of traffic. I'm already jaywalking, and you call my name.
Mike
Pat. Pat.
Pat
Pat. And then just like, bro, I think.
Mike
We have to have more awareness of when to bring things up to people. I think just situational awareness. And I. I fall short of this sometimes, too. There's sometimes. Sometimes something happens and I'm like, I'll say it in a moment. But I think we just need to be more conscious of, like, it helps it happen less when you're, like, thinking about it, like, do I need to bring this. Does this help this situation right now that we're in? Or can I save this for later? Later, right?
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
And also don't save it for later with. With microaggressions. Just purely, like, you have to put it on the back burner right now. You know when you go to work and says, leave your feelings at work. And sometimes you kind of have to do that. Just like when we come on the podcast, if something's happening in my personal life, I kind of have to leave it on the back burner for right now and go and do your job. So I feel like some people need to be more aware of that.
Pat
And if you wait, you're gonna realize it wasn't that big of a deal to begin with. Yeah, like, how many times like, like, you either been running late or you had anxiety about the event. And then after the event was over, he was like, bro. Why was I even nervous about some. That even went down?
Mike
The main culprit of that, Gene B. Like, I've learned me and Jim be friends, like, for five years now, six years, and been working with together for a long time as well. And I know when it's events time, Gene gets stressed. But I used to annoy the. I used to know the out of him during some because Gene would want me to do some, and I just be standing there like, lollygagging. He's like, bro. And he get. He started getting his microaggressions. I'd be like, I'd be Like Gene somebody. All right, this is what G hates. He hates when I call his name to bring him away from a circle to talk to some more.
Pat
Set of people. Because I don't know what.
Mike
Because I don't know how to. Like, there's certain things that Gene knows, especially about the business of unfinished legacy that I don't have knowledge of. Of. So Gene would be already be in a circle talking to somebody, and I'll call him to come to another circle of people to explain something else to.
Gene
That's what I hit him with.
Mike
The.
Pat
That's the end of that one.
Gene
Yeah.
Pat
For real.
Mike
And then we just both be looking stupid. No. That's funny. It's funny. Like, as you get. As you progress with your friends, you know how to, like, especially your real friends, you know how to handle them, in a sense. Friends. Is that crazy?
Pat
That's kind of crazy.
Mike
Is that handed, though?
Pat
Yeah, it's kind of crazy because we.
Mike
All have our flaws at friends. And I think, yeah, most people that are not really friends, they don't know how to, like, adapt to people's flaws.
Pat
Yeah. And they've been fighting their whole life.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Like, y' all been at odds for 10 years, and neither one of you dumb figured it out. She anti social. You a social butterfly. Find a medium. God damn. Keep arguing at the end of every night.
Mike
I think sometimes people are so fixated on changing people where it's like, how do you adapt to that? Like, me and Pat are the same, but we're also very, very, very, very different. We have very different things that we like. I would say sometimes when I'm talking to Pat, he's not paying attention at all, but I just know just to shut up and wait, to wait till he's clocked back it and then repeat.
Pat
Myself or something, you know, you probably know a squirrel just walked by my. Give it some time. This. I see the black squirrel in a minute now. Like, bro, this is rare.
Mike
Like, I'll be talking to Pat, and I'd be like, yeah, you know, we gotta do this, this, that, and that. He'd be like. And nothing will be said for, like, the first minute. I just won't say now because then I know he'll realize, like, wait, why is it so quiet right now? What the am I doing?
Pat
Must say something important. Let me ask this, yo. What? Hell, yeah. No, my worst is, like, when I. When I try to jump back into a conversation and somebody died, I'm like, I don't know who died. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. Then Mike be like, yeah, funeral at Sunday at 11. I'm like, now I gotta, I gotta scroll this.
Danny
James.
Mike
My big thing too is trying not to interrupt people too when they're talking. Because I do that a lot sometimes. But also I do that because. Because I have like a. My mind is like racing sometimes. I'm pretty sure people can see sometimes when I'm talking, like, I feel like I'm going into another subject or I start like stuttering a little bit. So my thing is just like, I try to get everything I need to say out because I know I'm about to forget what I'm about to say. It's also just slowing down.
Pat
Sometimes you do forget a lot. You be like, ah, I forgot what I was about to call you, but Boots went crazy last night. And then you, like, so about to next topic. Your next topic sometimes. This is your flaw. This is a flaw you have. I want you to know sometimes your next topic is so surface level that I just assume whatever you had could not have been that important. And then they'll just be like, yo, yeah, Boots. Yeah, you gotta fight Devin Haney. I'm like, oh, whatever he said couldn't have been like that crazy more important. Because then he hit me back hour later like, yeah, bro, they changed our flight until tomorrow. That's what I was supposed to tell you. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm already packed, bro. No, I. That's why I'm with this sometime. He's the king of, like doing and giving you the news as he's already doing it like, yo, bro, hey, TMG just hit us up. They both said we got to take do a thousand push ups on camera. I did 990, bro. Just let me know when you get to 500 if you need a little extra motivation and you can face like what he did.
Mike
990.
Pat
Oh, I do the last 10 with you. I'mma wait on you, bro. So we finish all pause. I almost got me. Okay, this is funny. I. I promised myself. Well, I told Mike earlier this week, especially with G, I'll be having relationships talk with Gene a lot, that I would make sure that we bring up at least one funny relationship thing a week. So this is my goal every week. So that means I won't do it next week. So the relationship thing of the week is funny. The things that you do for or to your girl if you know you're going out with the guys that night. And I just think there's no more of a romantic person than A guy who's going out with the guys at night and he got his girl during the day, they gonna wake up in a full suit with breakfast. Good morning, my love. What a great day we have.
Mike
Job, you talking, you know what about her day.
Pat
And you know what? I missed it. That dress you had on last Wednesday. Clock it, girl, clock it.
Mike
I started watching all the Netflix shows you hate. You sitting there, you watching Love island, and you're like, yeah, I don't know what Alandria is doing. And like that.
Pat
If this was me and you, I would have came out with 12 bouquets of flowers. But we can keep watching. Like, bro, the amount of shit you do. And then I want to say the witching hour, right? Let's say, Mike, you posted me and gene out at 7, right? From about 5:30 to 6:30. There's no better man on earth than you. Like, you walk around, babe, you need anything? Yeah, you know what? I did. I knew you was going to watch a Netflix show tonight, so I went ahead and dusted off the TV for you, man. The TV looked great. I got an Uber Eats voucher.
Mike
Whatever you want on Uber Eats. Yeah, you got it.
Pat
Yeah. And then you even make plans that you know you're gonna regret the next day. Matter of fact. Baby, I know. No, I don't even want to. Then you gotta downplay you going out. We're gonna talk about that after. But you might say some dumb like, you know what, in the morning, let's go to the farmers market, 8am Just.
Mike
To let you know, I'm not planning on having a wild night.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
So I'm willing to do some early start.
Pat
Early start. But what was I talking about before?
Mike
And the downplay.
Pat
Oh my God, a downplay. Oh my God.
Gene
How do you want to go?
Pat
For real, man. Jean. Jean. Jean the ass. Mike a ass. I really hate these. Baby, honestly, I wish you could come to guys night, but they not bringing their girls.
Mike
I'm sorry. But, but that is a real thing too. That's before. Before we. But all jokes aside, if it's guys night, it's guys night. I think more women need to understand too. Guys need their guys night.
Pat
Same same thing with guys though.
Mike
Yeah, some guys, especially in the podcast space, I need to go out and not have to like worry about if my girl is okay right now. Right. It's just like you just gotta like be and observe the. The universe.
Pat
Yeah. Especially if you're out. If you're a content creator or want to be a content creator, you gotta get out and experience where you can, you can't just sit up and read articles every day. Like you gotta, you gotta get out and experience because there's. How many times I've been out for. Okay, we went out at nine.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
We left around midnight. I just got a whole episode out of this. Like I just saw some do some weird ass like this keep turning his pelvis towards women when he walking through a crowd.
Mike
Weird as.
Pat
I've never noticed that before but yeah.
Mike
You definitely have to downplay. You can't. It can't be the best night of your life when your girl wasn't there.
Pat
No, no, no, no.
Mike
You can't go like this is the most fun. I. Because then girls start thinking it's like what made it that fun.
Pat
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
What, how. How would it be less fun if I was there? You know, like, do I change any factors of the fun being happening?
Pat
Especially if she see you crack like a little laugh or smile that you don't really do with her? Because I'm not gonna lie, there's different types of joy, right? And there's a certain amount of joy that a woman might not ever see or man has. And I want you to know it's not because he likes his guys more. It just be like if, if your man loves you, technically he's your security guard.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
And technically I can never fully have fun if I know that there's a person that I'm worried about that's in the same space as me.
Danny
Me.
Pat
So like let's say you see a video of me with my guys in the club and we going crazy like ah, popping bottles, right? And then the girl comes up to me and just be like, I, I've never seen you act like that. You don't have fun with me. You think I could close my eyes off five shots of tequila and go ah. Without me worried about somebody shoulder bumping you or, or if you having fun or not. You think I could really close my eyes for 60 seconds, be crazy as hell.
Mike
Especially the having fun part is. Is the most important. Cuz you always want to make sure like your girl's comfortable and she's having fun. Like everything's going right for her. Especially if you care about that person. There are some dudes that don't give a. That are doing those things when their girl is present that also looks like you're neglecting her the whole night as well.
Pat
She chilling there having more fun. There's also, but I wouldn't put this cuz you know, it's probably some ladies mad y' all have more fun with your. Our friends. But there's also, obviously, there's plenty of joys that your woman can give you that you can't get with the guys and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, just doing regular. Like, don't nobody like, doing regular. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're weird.
Mike
I'm just saying.
Pat
No, you're weird. You're weird as you just. You up that conversation something their guy friends can't provide. All right, okay. We're on the club if you. You're done, bro. We're so. We're on the club thing. And you. You sent me a real earlier today, and I'm like, at the point, if I see a raise his voice and there's not laughter immediately after in a club, I'm gone, bro. Because it just like, also, obviously, I'm looking at, like, what the dudes look like and like, like, if it's probably. But if I see two dudes, we all got sections. They both got sections, and they both all got diamonds and shit. And then they got other niggas in a section and then these two niggas arguing. I'm gone, bro. Like, there's no way. There's alcohol, there's competition, there's pride, there's ego going on.
Mike
I'm either gone or I'm like. I step a little bit outside the circle to observe. Yeah, you never want to miss. You know, you do want to miss that type of stuff, but you never want to be around, like, that chaotic.
Pat
Yeah, it's certain security guards around the city. It's once. It's like one or two security guards that we know.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
From, like, they. They work at Hype Boys, Me and Martin, my dogs. But when they are security guards, I know I'm good. But it's certain security guards around Milwaukee.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
They let me in without frisking me. So it's just, like, what happens when they cousin or some like that. So it also depends on, like, whose security guard guards and like that.
Gene
Like, I also seen the security guard.
Pat
Get folded like Kalani. Kalani style.
Mike
Wait, what he got?
Pat
He got his ass beat.
Mike
Who's what? Like, what style?
Pat
Oh, you don't get it.
Mike
No.
Pat
Such an unc sometimes.
Mike
Are you gonna explain to me what he got?
Pat
40. Oh, come on now, baby. That make it less funny? No, explain the joke to make me laugh again. I ain't laughing. What was it?
Mike
Kali do keep a hit, though.
Pat
No, that. That song is Gonna be like, you know, like what we play for our kids and stuff like that.
Mike
Kalani's been relevant for a long time.
Pat
Yeah, like, super long. A lot of people don't even know.
Mike
Yeah. Very consistent. Exactly. She's never had, like the. I would say she's had the super highs. Like, they think this is one of her super highs, but it doesn't feel like it's ever gone bl. Like she fell off. Like, there was no, like, threshold of like, damn, she fell off. There's no year that nobody said that. Cause a lot of artists don't make that. A lot of artists don't. Once they say they fall off, it's hard for them to be like, they came back. I mean, I would say, like, Chance is one of the ones that kind of like, I feel like people felt like came back.
Pat
Yeah, he definitely had a resurgence.
Mike
Yeah, a resurgence.
Pat
Resurgence to what he once was. Because it was to a point where like, okay, when Chance the rapper first started, you can imagine him on like a Jimmy Kimmel night show or. Or wait, Conan o', Brien, whoever was at the nice show that time. But like, when somebody disappears, you're like, okay, can I imagine them there again? Like, I don't want to, like, diss nobody, but, like, designer, right?
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
I don't know if designer's near, like a Jimmy Kimmel late night interview to like, where people, like, really want to dive into what he's doing right now. So it just. You could definitely fall off and like, never come back again, like, to that. To that status or take a long time.
Mike
I think also, like, the style of music is what kind of determines if you can come back back or not. I think Chance always had that. He was. He's a lyrical. He's lyrical. So it's like, if I come back with more. Because obviously people hated that album where he was like praising his wife the whole time for some reason. But no, it was. It's not a diss. But I think this one, he came back and it's not like this. The album that he came out, like, sold hella records and stuff like that. But it was actually just really good music. Yeah, it was good music on that album. It wasn't anything like super hyped and stuff like that, like TikTok trends or anything like that. So it's just. There's lanes. I think it's harder for somebody like. Like you said, like a designer who made really catchy music.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
Like, you know, so it's just like how it's hard to be catchy.
Pat
That's why I always feel bad for rappers, though, because it's like, especially if their music. I feel like Chance had a lot of relatable music.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Like, if you listen to, like, Chance anything, Chance, he could mention something that's like, very relevant to your life. Life. But once they live, like, a decade of being a millionaire, it's like, bro, like, what. What could you possibly say? Like, when I listen to Lil Baby right now, he not really talking about the trenches. I think the same thing happened to Meek Mill. It's almost like they need to be hated on for a while to come back with that same type of hunger and just be like, oh, y' all hate. You know what I mean? Start rapping about like that. But, like, when a rapper has been on top for so long, it's the same thing with Lil Wayne. It's like, eventually they stop rapping about relatable. Like, that's to the masses, and most of the masses are. Aren't rich. So it's like, okay, how many times you gonna mention this? Cullinan got a Honda Accord.
Mike
Anyway, this is. We're about to go to Patreon now. Anyway, so this has been episode 2 to 8 of Crash Dummies podcast. Make sure you guys subscribe to that. Patreon. Do we still have merch left, Gene?
Gene
We do, yeah.
Mike
We got merch ready to be delivered. What else? Tour. We're doing a show in Chicago at Zany's.
Pat
I'll just announce it it January 4th.
Mike
January 4th. So let us know if Chicago people, if you guys want to be there. We'll post the links and everything soon.
Pat
Yeah, just. It's always nice, like, even though you can't buy tickets, it's always nice to, you know, DMS and say, yo, I can't wait for the show in Chicago. You know, give us. Give us a little motivation, you know what I'm saying?
Mike
Like that.
Pat
And obviously, we'll be in LA from 21st to 25th. Any creators out there that listen to this want to collaborate again. If you got a business that you own and you got the space to. We're down to shoot vlogs and promote the business. And also, you don't get content for ourselves selfishly, because that's the only reason we hitting you up.
Mike
Also, I guess I didn't realize that we had listeners in, like, Wisconsin as well. So I had to fight sometimes because people have been DMing me about my fight. They want to come to the fight and stuff like that. So I Always forget about that and I always forget to announce it on the pod. So, yeah, I am fighting November 22nd and Racine, Wisconsin.
Pat
How far is racing from Chicago though?
Mike
Like another 40, 50.
Pat
Yeah, that's if you're in Chicago too. I think a lot of people will make the trip out. I think this is the closest you fought to Chicago.
Mike
Yeah, yeah.
Pat
So yeah.
Mike
Yeah. Having just DM me for tickets. Yeah. I'll put in my will call. It's like 40 for general admission.
Pat
Pop up, man. Let's, let's. Let's build a good crowd. I don't know if I'll be there like vlogging or whatever, but I'll definitely, obviously be there. I don't like really vlogging during Mike's fight for everybody that's gonna ask for it. I probably won't. Yeah, I probably won't. I be just too into it and the is like too nerve wracking and I don't know if I gotta shoot that up. Let me not say that they want.
Gene
You to IRL stream it.
Mike
Yeah.
Pat
Security not gonna. I'm. I think about IRL streaming. I just don't. I would really have to.
Mike
You'll know. You'll know like after the face off. Yes.
Gene
Yeah. Yes.
Pat
After the face off for sure. And I really gotta like with my cameraman cuz I was want. I don't want to call him out, but he do work for Unfinished Legacy. I don't want to call him out, but he was like commentating on Mike's fight as cuz he. He's a boxing fan. This is my guy. But he was commentating on Mike's fight as if it were like a regular fight. And you know, like if you commentate on like it's a regular fight, you kind of like going for both boxers and you want to see a good match. It's like, no, I want him to knock this out. Like, why are you buying me? And if, like, if it don't go our way, like you public enemy number one now. I want to beat your ass. You know what I'm saying? But no, actually expect a great show. I don't want to talk to you, but talk about you. But he's supposed to. Let's knock this out.
Mike
Yeah, that's what we're going for.
Pat
Yeah.
Mike
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Pat
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Episode 228: "The Mosh Pit Puncher"
Release Date: October 15, 2025
In this episode, Pat and Mike deliver their signature hilarious, dark, and candid banter about “current events and scenarios that probably will never happen.” They are joined by frequent guest Gene, some recurring characters, and a sprinkling of audience call-ins. The conversation flows from social awkwardness, intrusive thoughts, masculinity, AI content, internet beefs, and odd habits—all exemplified by the memorable “mosh pit puncher” caller (hence the title).
Pat’s Take on Integrity:
Pat criticizes the saying: "Who are you when no one is watching?" He feels real integrity is tested not by secrecy, but by the urge to say something “bad” when you know you could get away with it.
“If I really don't like Black people and I want to take it out on Shador Sanders, I'll wait until he has a bad game and just say, he's not shit... That's not integrity, right? Integrity would be like, just be blatantly racist. You know what I'm saying?” — Pat (01:09)
Intrusive Thoughts and Friendship:
Both hosts talk about sharing their darkest, oddest thoughts with each other and letting off steam without judgment.
“My humor is dark sometimes, but it's nice to at least say it out loud to a friend... He'll judge me, but he won't like out me for my dark thoughts.” — Mike (02:16)
The “Irish Goodbye” and Dodging People:
The crew discusses their varied tactics for avoiding long conversations or people they barely remember, especially in public spaces like Target.
Forgetting Names and Awkward Re-Introductions:
Everyone reflects on the awkwardness of not remembering someone’s name or face, and the overly honest “nice to meet you” to someone you’ve actually met before.
“If I met somebody twice and they say, nice to meet you, bro, I will sock the shit out you go. Remember me this time. I promise you that.” — Pat (07:06)
Responding to Haters:
The guys read angry messages from a listener who accuses them of being sexist, laughing at the contradiction that he continues to listen.
“He called his sexist. And, you know, we called him out on the podcast by his name JT24. He messaged us again and still complaining... So he still listened to us after he thought we were sexist.” — Mike (08:27)
Photo Dumps and Toxic Masculinity:
Discussion about whether it's “manly” to post photo dumps on social media, with Pat and Mike mocking the notion that certain behaviors or handwriting styles are gendered.
Holding in Emotions as Men:
Mike and Pat note the difficulty many men feel in being vulnerable due to fear of ridicule and how they often mask their feelings with humor, memes, or bravado.
Dark Humor in a Changing Context:
Pat describes finding less humor in certain memes as he gets older or gains new experiences—real-life events change what’s funny.
AI’s Weird Cultural Impact:
Discussion of AI-generated content—like a Martin Luther King vs. Malcolm X rap battle—and the feeling that it crosses an ethical (or just creepy) line.
“That’s some satanic shit... Bringing people back to life and making them do something that they would never do or they have never done.” — Pat (22:18)
Skillful Uses of AI:
Pat likes when people use AI to remix classic songs in older styles but is less interested if it doesn’t involve the original artist.
Foreplay Avoider:
A caller reveals he “skips foreplay” because he hates the idea of getting sweaty, which Pat and Mike tease as a nightmare for women (28:01–34:03).
The Mosh Pit Puncher:
A listener admits he loves going to mosh pits just to punch people (“sometimes the elbow, sometimes it’s the uppercut”) and has never been confronted (34:11–36:56).
“I really like, like, going to mosh pits and like, just punching people. He's hurting them.” — Danny (34:23)
“When the beat dropped, I just came and I turned. Basically tackling.” — Danny (36:36)
Nipple Play Confessions:
A Nigerian caller shares that he didn’t understand the appeal of nipple play until he tried it and now pushes partners’ heads toward his chest mid-makeout (46:02–48:29).
Vigorously Defending Booty Eating:
One guy swears he’ll defend “eating ass is okay” until his last breath, as long as it’s clean—then details his methodology (50:10–54:28).
Hasan Piker & The Leashed Dog “Controversy”:
Pat and Mike talk about being adjacent to a Twitter/streamer scandal involving Hasan and his dog, and the phenomenon of public internet pile-ons/trials without evidence.
“He didn’t shock his dog...His dog is extremely well trained...it just [has] an E collar.” — Mike (56:00)
On Public Accountability and “Cancelling” Friends:
Both hosts explain they’d always privately address issues with friends before airing anything online—a loyalty line not to be crossed.
The “Best Boyfriend” Hours:
Before a night out, guys become model partners—making breakfast, being affectionate, setting up Netflix—out of guilt or preemptive peacekeeping.
“There's no more of a romantic person than a guy who's going out with the guys at night and he got his girl during the day.” — Pat (73:57)
The Need for Guys’ Nights:
The hosts defend “guys’ night,” explaining it’s a form of release and not cause for suspicion.
Downplaying Fun:
They joke about the “downplaying” that occurs after a fun night without one’s partner, lest suspicions arise.
Who Fell Off, Who Returned:
Short discussion on artists who effectively make comebacks (e.g., Chance the Rapper) and others who disappear for good (Designer).
Staying Relatable:
The challenge for long-successful rappers to stay relevant and relatable as their lifestyles change.
On Intrusive Thoughts & Friendship:
“My humor is dark sometimes, but it's nice to at least say it out loud to a friend...He'll judge me, but he won't out me.” — Mike (02:16)
On Forgetting People in Public:
“Somebody I know that I just talked to yesterday could be behind me in the Target checkout line, and I won't turn my back.” — Pat (05:17)
On Toxic Masculinity & Photo Dumps:
“You can't photo dump because there's not that many angles of your living room. I'm sorry, bro.” — Pat (10:07)
On AI & Ethics:
“Bringing people back to life and making them do something that they would never do...is some satanic shit…” — Pat (22:18)
"The Mosh Pit Puncher":
“I really like, like, going to like, mosh pits and like, just punching people. He’s hurting them.” — Danny (34:23)
On Club Safety:
“If I see a [man] raise his voice and there’s not laughter immediately after in a club, I’m gone, bro.” — Pat (79:43)
Episode 228 is a quintessential Crash Dummies experience: rapid-fire on-the-fly comedy, raw admissions, wry commentary on Internet culture and masculinity, and unforgettable guest moments—most notably the “mosh pit puncher.” It’ll give listeners a mix of awkward laughter and genuine insight into the sometimes ridiculous social rules men live with.
If you’ve ever worried about being too awkward, too vulnerable, or too “weird”—Pat, Mike, and crew will help you feel right at home.