Your Biggest Hot Take feat T-Pain - Episode 211

Summary

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Crash Dummies Podcast – Episode 211: "Your Biggest Hot Take" feat. T-Pain

Date: June 18, 2025
Hosts: Patrick Johnson & Michael Esiobu
Special Guest: T-Pain

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Episode Overview

On this lively and hilariously candid episode of the Crash Dummies Podcast, Pat and Mike are joined by Grammy-winning artist, auto-tune pioneer, and all-around entertainer T-Pain. Broadcasting from The Rave in Milwaukee, the trio dives into everything from T-Pain’s creative process and hot takes on music industry trends, to wild personal stories, fan questions, and unfiltered debates about everything from fireworks competitions and car shows to, believe it or not, socks and the politics of being a “grower vs. shower.”

With T-Pain’s raw honesty and comedic energy, this episode is packed with memorable quotes, insider stories, and unexpected wisdom. The show seamlessly blends personal anecdotes, pop culture critique, and interactive listener call-ins.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

T-Pain’s Arrival & Milwaukee Stories (00:50–03:32)

• T-Pain walks in unannounced, surprising both hosts and audience.
• Reveals he’s only visited four buildings in Milwaukee, including staying at the infamous “People Eater Hotel,” and jokes about not wanting to hear strange noises in the hall at night.
• Discusses difficulties hosting car events at Milwaukee Mile due to unfair stereotypes and how Road America at Elkhart Lake offered a better alternative.
• [03:32] Unique Elkhart Lake tradition: locals set off fireworks in a friendly “who-has-the-best-show” contest.

Notable Quote (04:33)

“It’s just who can have the better show … If you spend the most money and your show was whack, you know …” – T-Pain

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The Broke Phase: Early Hustles & Relationships (05:05–10:32)

• Co-hosts share “dumbest thing I did when I was broke” stories. Example: budgeting every cent in college – only to blow $75 on an unexpected date.
• T-Pain discusses how his wife (then-girlfriend) supported his early music dreams from her Air Force checks, even when his home studio’s power kept getting cut off.
• Recalls listening to old music and realizing his early tracks were “trash,” but he kept pushing.

Notable Quotes

• [07:36]: “You can, it don’t matter how much money you have, it’s about the decisions you make with that money.” – T-Pain
• [09:43]: “I’m not sure if she believed in actual music or I was slanging amazing dick.” – T-Pain

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Musical Journey & Finding Auto-Tune (10:32–14:25)

• T-Pain describes growing up rearranging melodies in his head and fighting with his brother about “how songs should sound.”
• Dad supported his interest, bought second-hand music equipment at age 10.
• Talks about the two-year obsessive hunt to find the famous auto-tune effect, only discovered after hearing it on a Jennifer Lopez “If You Had My Love” remix.

Notable Quotes

• [12:57]: “It took me two years to find auto tune … the second I found it, it was like, fuck yes, I found it.” – T-Pain

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Fan Impact & Transitioning His Sound (14:25–16:41)

• Co-hosts reminisce about using “I’m Sprung” as a flex and even passing off deep-cut T-Pain songs as their own to impress.
• T-Pain reveals the truly personal nature behind his song “Joyous,” written for his children without auto-tune, despite pushback for going off-brand.

Notable Quote

• [16:01]: “I’d rather sound terrible on a song about my kids, than try to make a song sound perfect and fake ...” – T-Pain

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On the Music Industry: Creativity, Critique & Album Fatigue (16:54–24:40)

• [17:00] T-Pain reacts to criticism of Lil Wayne’s recent album: says Wayne “rapped his ass off” but production was lackluster, partially due to insular creative bubbles.
• Argues artists now face immense pressure for albums to “hit” instantly, with social media quick to clown or declare a ‘flop.’
• T-Pain laments the exhausting “promo tour cycle” for albums, preferring dropping singles now for his mental peace.

Notable Quotes

• [17:32]: “Wayne gonna rap regardless. He can rap on a bunch of frogs croaking, and it’ll still be amazing.” – T-Pain
• [24:23]: “You gotta do this whole run, you know what I’m saying? Talk to everybody to convince … not an organic thing … it’s like, I need to go on there and tell people my album is good.” – T-Pain
• [25:19]: “To put all this work in for months, months on hand, and then have somebody judge everything you’ve done in a year, in one day … is crazy.” – T-Pain

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Sampling, Covers & the Meme Era (22:01–26:11)

• Talks about allowing artists to sample his work (e.g., Jerry Sprunger with Tory Lanez) and why he doesn’t charge if he isn’t featured.
• On current music industry climate: memes and instant online criticism can “shut down an album” overnight regardless of real effort.
• Praises Drake for wanting to “gracefully bow out” of music, then jokes Drake keeps dropping albums anyway.

Notable Quote

• [26:58]: “The energy that is put into being the first meme about an album is not worth the energy it takes to make a dope album. … I’m not willing to put my mental health at risk for that.” – T-Pain

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Listener Hot Takes Segment (Caller Interactions) (29:48–55:12)

Best-of Caller Hot Takes:

• Grower vs. Shower Debate (33:51–38:04)

  • T-Pain humorously sides with “medium” guys, admits he’s not “porn-size” but knows how to “get where I’m going.”
  • [34:01]: “This the nation I represent, baby. … We need something for the medium have you, you been shaped boys out here?” — T-Pain

• Men Wearing Ankle Socks (39:45–43:49)

  • Female caller claims there is "no reason for a man to be wearing ankle socks."
  • T-Pain earnestly explains the generational struggle of having to “make” ankle socks by folding regular ones.
  • [42:18]: “We had to make sacrifices... They just literally made one side sock for everybody.” – T-Pain

• Violence is Good? (45:27–47:22)

  • Caller claims we “need more violence in the world.” T-Pain and the hosts go back and forth on the realities and downsides.
  • [46:25]: “So what if other people say we need more violence against just you by yourself?” – T-Pain

• Do Stank = Ran Through? (51:11–54:07)

  • Multiple callers and T-Pain debate: if someone has a certain odor, does it mean they're “ran through”?
  • T-Pain: Not always—sometimes people use wrong soaps, have a chemical imbalance, or douche too often.
  • [52:10]: “Some people have not—no, I’m not, you know, I’m not defending anybody—some people have chemical imbalances.” – T-Pain

• Can White Girls Be Studs? (56:37–58:46)

  • Hilarious debate on the cultural definition of “stud” vs. “butch” and whether suburban women can “qualify.”
  • [57:08]: “It takes a level of aggression.” – T-Pain

• Should Celebrities Exist? (48:29–50:46)

  • Caller’s hot take: “Celebrities shouldn’t exist.” T-Pain agrees that fame is often arbitrary and the most talented people don’t always get recognition.

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Finale: Name Origins & Snackable Banter (60:01–61:48)

• T-Pain answers how he got his name: it was originally “Mr. Torturer” at age 14, before a groupmate (Bir “Bird Chest” Johnson) wouldn’t say it.
• T-Pain = Tallahassee Pain, reflecting both his hometown and his journey.

Notable Quote

• [61:20]: “Tallahassee. Absolutely. Tallahassee Pain. Let’s go.” – T-Pain

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Memorable Moments

• T-Pain on Fireworks:

  “My fireworks would be based off of fucking 90s R&B.” [04:48]

• On Supporting Young T-Pain:

  “She would get her check, buy her a few snacks, and then she would send me the rest of her check to keep my studio on so I can rent out my studio and get more money to pay the light bill … and then she would have—it’s just the cycle.” [08:48]

• On Not Releasing Albums Anymore:

  “I don’t feel like convincing people that my album is good.” [24:23]

• On the Downside of Celebrity:

  “Y’all don’t give a if I live or die. Why the fuck would I keep trying to impress y’all?” [29:26]

• On Socks:

  “Can you imagine a bra where you had to fold the top of it down to fit your titties? … We had to make sacrifices.” [42:07]

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Most Notable Timestamps

• 00:50 – T-Pain enters, banter about Milwaukee & car shows
• 05:05 – Broke college stories & how T-Pain’s wife supported his early music career
• 12:38 – Childhood music and finding auto-tune
• 14:25 – Impact of “I’m Sprung” and personal tracks
• 16:54 – Lil Wayne, album reception, and why T-Pain prefers singles
• 22:01 – Sampling T-Pain; when features (or meme culture) kill an album
• 29:48 – Start of listener call-ins and hilarious hot takes
• 56:37 – “Stud” identity debate
• 60:01 – How T-Pain got his stage name

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Tone & Style

The episode keeps the Crash Dummies Podcast’s trademark unfiltered, self-deprecating humor, filled with honest personal stories, wild analogies, and a comfortable rapport with listeners. T-Pain’s blend of irreverence and insight gives the episode both entertainment and substance—switching seamlessly from heartfelt to hysterical.

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This episode is a must-listen for T-Pain fans, aspiring musicians, and anyone who loves open, honest, and ridiculous conversations that somehow still get to the heart of real issues in music and life.

Transcript

[Mike]

Yo, welcome to Crash Dummies episode. I don't know what episode. This is two something. Yeah, yeah, two something.

[Co-host]

Just get used to 211.

[Mike]

Let's just call it 211.

[Co-host]

That's crazy.

[Mike]

We are shooting at the rave. We for a special reason.

[Co-host]

Y' all gonna be very surprised. No forewarning.

[Female Caller]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Of what was gonna happen. So your mind about to be blown.

[Mike]

All right, all right. We actually have a special guest. He can just walk in. I'm not even going to intro him. I don't think. I don't think. I don't think he needs an introduction.

[Male Caller]

No, no, no.

[Co-host]

I like the. I like the shock factor.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

Oh, God.

[Co-host]

Oh, See, I told y'. All mind blown, right?

[Male Caller]

I.

[T-Pain]

Hey, The Pep Rider 1 in the Papa John thing. Don't do that, by the way. If you're not ready for it.

[Mike]

Oh, you might have to go. Okay.

[Female Caller]

All right.

[Mike]

We're good. We're good.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Male Caller]

We all good.

[T-Pain]

Okay.

[Co-host]

What's good chat?

[Mike]

Yo, we are here at the rave with Mr. Hold on. We're going to let him get his coffee in real quick.

[T-Pain]

Okay.

[Mike]

Oh, damn.

[Co-host]

That was actually a pepper.

[Mike]

That was. That was actually a pepper.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, that was a lot going on.

[Mike]

What up? What up?

[T-Pain]

How y' all doing, man? Cooking, bro.

[Co-host]

Appreciate taking some time, man.

[T-Pain]

I don't have any time. It's in between the time.

[Co-host]

That's fire.

[T-Pain]

That's fire. But the good news is y' all are part of the time, so this is. It's cool now. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host]

We appreciate it. How. How do you like Wisconsin? You like Milwaukee?

[T-Pain]

I haven't been around it a lot. I've only been. I've only been to, like, four buildings.

[Co-host]

If you can rate those four buildings

[Mike]

one to ten, you're actually going to a different part this time.

[T-Pain]

Well, one of them was there.

[Female Caller]

The.

[T-Pain]

One of them was the. The People Eater Hotel. So that was. That was pretty cool.

[Co-host]

What they call the People Eater.

[T-Pain]

The D. Yeah, the D. So that was the first building I ever, like, stayed at at all. So that was. That was pretty cool. Actually stayed two rooms down from where the. Where the stuff happened. So that was pretty cool. I. I don't know if they, like.

[Mike]

Did you put your, like, ear on the door and to see.

[T-Pain]

I don't want. I don't want to get ha. Hit crazy like that, you know what I mean? But no, it was actually. It was pretty cool. So there, obviously, you know, the Rave Eagles Club and stuff like that, and we went to we had to go to city hall to, like, get permits and stuff.

[Mike]

So it's because I know you guys are doing the racing, the.

[Co-host]

The.

[Mike]

The car show in Elkart Lake.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

We got some Road America.

[Co-host]

We got some ties in Oak Lake.

[Mike]

We went to school out there.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Oh, shut up. Oh, no.

[Co-host]

That's why we were so shocked. Like, what you doing out there?

[T-Pain]

I mean, we didn't, like. We wasn't trying to, you know, we were trying to. We were trying to, you know, do our thing with. With the Milwaukee Mile. And they were like, look, you know, we don't want. We don't want.

[Mike]

Yeah, we get it.

[T-Pain]

We don't want the gangs. We don't want the. We don't want the violence. Like, we. We've been holding this event for four years in a row, and we haven't had that. So how come now that we go to your venue that it's going to be that. So, yeah, nobody could explain it. It's totally fine. We found another venue. Road America, like you. Y', all, you already know, man.

[Co-host]

Let me tell you something about Elkhart Lake that's unique. On. On the Lies, one dude goes out into the middle of Elkhart Lake with a bunch of fireworks and pop fireworks in the whole town. Watch the dude.

[T-Pain]

One dude?

[Co-host]

Yeah, one dude. He roll out there by. So Jack, he work.

[T-Pain]

I used to be that guy. And I used to be that guy in my. And where I live now. But then I also, you know, not to sound like a piece of, but I live in a. I live in a pretty rich area. And we all. They started making, like, a bulletin board of who's spinning the most at the fireworks place.

[Co-host]

Oh.

[T-Pain]

So the first year that they started recording it, one person spent like three grand on networks. It sounds like a lot. It's not until you figure out, like, one of the grands is like a Boys to Men finale. You don't know. You don't know until you. And then you see it and you're like, that's what that was. And then you're like, all right, I'm gonna spend five grand. And then. Then everybody in the area starts.

[Mike]

So it's a competition who can spend the most money.

[T-Pain]

It's. It's just who can have the better show.

[Male Caller]

Right.

[T-Pain]

Because if you spend the most money and your show was whack, you know,

[Co-host]

you know, the boys, to me and

[T-Pain]

fireworks, it was not good.

[Mike]

There might be more pressure on you to have the better light show, though,

[T-Pain]

if I start basing all my fireworks off Of R B artists then, yeah, I'm doing that. But all white fireworks. I don't know. I don't want. My. My fireworks would be based off of fucking 90s R B.

[Co-host]

So. So earlier we was talking about the. The thing that we did when we were broke that we shouldn't have done.

[Male Caller]

Oh.

[Co-host]

So mine was because I. Because I Obviously I recently heard like your journey. So I was like, oh, let me. Before I ask him that, let me make sure I have like my story. So my.

[T-Pain]

I would love to hear your shouldn't have done it.

[Co-host]

Okay. My shouldn't have done it was. I know.

[T-Pain]

I feel like this is going to involve condoms.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Female Caller]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Always involved. So mine was like, I knew how much I made a month. It was like I was working like a small job after college. I was making 2,200amonth in college.

[T-Pain]

You kept up with your finances?

[Co-host]

Yeah, a little bit. We can talk about some loans that might be looking at me now like,

[T-Pain]

yeah, where that money? Okay, I got you rent a center, Blockbuster. There's a lot going on.

[Co-host]

You're not getting that TV stand back. Good TV stand. But. So I knew I made $2,200 and a month. I had a cart, I had a car. A month, I had a car.

[T-Pain]

This grew up in the 60s. Yeah, that's a lot of money in college.

[Co-host]

Hey, hey, I was kidding.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, $2,200 a month.

[Co-host]

But I had a thousand dollar car note.

[T-Pain]

Okay,

[Co-host]

but no, listen, listen. I had it down perfect with groceries, cardinal rent, that I had $75 left at the end every month. And I was pretty disciplined. Like nothing could possibly happen to me. My school was like on campus. Like, you know, we didn't have to leave the campus. They had everything. And then I randomly was in a restaurant picking up my little daily wings that I get, you know, budgeting and something like that.

[T-Pain]

By restaurant you mean publix?

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

And a woman came up to me and was just like, hey, you want to get a bite to eat? And that was my first time ever seeing 75 go super fast.

[T-Pain]

So a woman walked up to you and was like, you want to spend the rest of that money?

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

And you was like, yeah, absolutely.

[Co-host]

It's like being at the strip Club with 300 ones. They. They own you.

[Mike]

I've actually walked in the club. Strip Club with 301s and left with 301s.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I did.

[T-Pain]

That's what I'm just. Yeah, this is what I'm just saying. So you can't say it's like walking in there with 301 because you still

[Mike]

gotta make a decision when you're there.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. It's all about, it's all about the decisions you make. You can, it's it, it don't matter how much money you have. It's about the decisions you make with that, with that money.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And you can, you can do so many different things. So you had $75 and one person was like, you want to spend that? And you were like, yes.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Now, now. What went into the other decisions that was like, yeah, I'll spend this 75.

[Co-host]

I was like, what's it was? It was a 12. It wasn't the end of the month. I had no alert system. You know, you get to the end of the month.

[T-Pain]

But here's what I'm saying. You knew what was coming. You knew everything was paid. You knew exactly how much money you had left. And you were like, this will last me for however long. And you were still like, nope.

[Mike]

And where'd you go for the restaurant?

[Male Caller]

Huh?

[Mike]

Where'd you go for the restaurant? Because I know where we live, where we are in school at. There's not that many expensive place. 75 for a meal, for two.

[Co-host]

Drinking at that chili.

[T-Pain]

So did it okay. Okay. Result in anything?

[Co-host]

Huh? I ended up dating a girl. So it ended up being like, okay, but you.

[T-Pain]

She spent the rest of your 75.

[Co-host]

We spent her money for the rest of the month.

[T-Pain]

See the crazy thing, see the crazy thing about me, like when I first like started making music, I wasn't doing anything like huge. But my wife, now my girlfriend then she was sending me her checks. She was sending me her check. So if I, like when my power cut off, like my power was always off. My dad never paid our bills. Everything, like my power was always off. So my wife now would, when she was in the air force, she would get her check, she would buy her a few snacks, and then she would send me the rest of her check to keep my studio on so I can rent out my studio and get more money to pay the light bill, which would then be late again. And then she would have. It's just the cycle. The cycle was crazy. But she would always believe that something would come out of her giving me the rest of her check.

[Co-host]

She believed in you from the get go.

[T-Pain]

I'm not sure of that. I'm not sure if she believed in actual music or I was slanging amazing dick. Do you think that's crazy?

[Mike]

Like, looking back at it, obviously it's like your First. You know, the first time in the. In the studio, like, do you listen back to your old stuff?

[T-Pain]

So this was the. So this was my studio. This was my studio in my bedroom. Got it in my dad's house. So the only reason I would. The only way I could make music at all. So the only reason, the only way I can make music at all is if my power was on, which it was never. So the only reason, the only way I could get my power back on is if she would send me her check. So it wasn't. So I did go back and listen to, like, a lot of the old stuff, and 100. I would not find not one thing, not one cent of that. God damn, I was trash.

[Mike]

You know, like, for some artists, like, when did you get that belief then in yourself that you, okay, I can actually do this? Like, it's obviously your first couple songs might have not been the greatest, looking back at it.

[T-Pain]

So the thing was, it wasn't the greatest to me. Yeah, I. I knew it was the greatest. It wasn't the greatest thing about it, but it wasn't the greatest to me. I wanted it to be better, but I knew it was better than what

[Mike]

I heard on Got it Right.

[Co-host]

That's your mom.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? So that was my motivation to where it was like, I know I'm doing something right. And me and my brother. Me and my older brother used to get into fights all the time. My dad and I used to go to my dad, like, Rashid's making fun of me because I'm singing a song the way I think it should go. Like, when we hear songs on the radio, I would sing it a different way. And he was like, you don't even know the song. And I'm like, I know the song, but I'm telling you how I think it should sound. And this is me at, like, 8 years old. You know what I'm saying? So when we get past all that, and my dad is like, maybe we should. We should probably look into this.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And he looked into it, and he was just like, okay, kids like this are doing this. And then one day, an army commercial came on. Army commercial came on, and I harmonized with the army commercial in the room with my dad. And he was like, how'd you know how to do that? I was just like, that's just. I just thought. I thought that's how songs are supposed to sound. He was like, all right, cool.

[Mike]

I'm.

[T-Pain]

We going to the store tomorrow, buy you some equipment. We're gonna figure out what's going on with this. We're gonna figure this out.

[Co-host]

How old were you?

[T-Pain]

This was. I was 10.

[Mike]

Oh, damn.

[Co-host]

This real Joe Jackson type stuff.

[T-Pain]

My mom didn't with it. My mom was like, stop spending money on this. So my dad, my dad spent the money on me. We went, you know, we went into a. It's called music exchange. It was like, you know, people that brought in their music equipment that was trying to like sell it to, you know, get like, like co sign stuff, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so, you know, he bought like some. Some secondhand stuff and, and you know, it. It turned out that I'm actually kind of good at this. So, you know.

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Do you realize that you had a whole generation, especially my generation, singing into fans to sound like you?

[T-Pain]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One, because I was one of the people singing fans. Yeah. I was singing in the fans and I was like, how do I make this sound? How do I get this? And I went on a two year journey. It took me two years to find auto tune.

[Mike]

Oh, wow.

[Female Caller]

Two years.

[T-Pain]

Everybody else knew I got in the game in 2005. Auto tune was invented in 1997. And I didn't know what it was called. So I was. I was on my computer looking for anything that could be like vox or vocal or vocal change or vocal, something. It was. I was just looking for anything. It took me two years to find auto tune. And the second I found it, it was like I just lift up in there. I was like, fuck, yes. I found it because it was after the Dark Child remix of. Of the Jennifer Lopez song if you had my love. And then that one part, that one part had autotune on it. It was just that one part. And I was like, oh, how do I sound like that?

[Female Caller]

Oh.

[Co-host]

So you was looking into music in a totally different way than everybody else.

[T-Pain]

No, this was on one of them. One of them CDs. I don't know all,

[Mike]

but this is

[T-Pain]

on one of them CDs. It was like one of them now. Like now that's what I call music type shit. Yeah, but it was one of them. Like the commercials used to play all the time.

[Co-host]

Yep.

[T-Pain]

And it was just song after song after song. But when that one came on, I was like, man, I wonder what that would sound like with a whole song. And I never got to find out until two years later when I actually found that sound. And I was like, oh, it's over.

[Co-host]

I want, I want to thank you for two things. That you helped me with in middle school and high school. 1 1. The I'm sprung song playing in the background when I call a girl for the first time was so fired. That's what I used to play.

[T-Pain]

Ah, Sprung. How you manage your voicemail? Yeah, the answer machine. Answer machine is out front.

[Mike]

Oh, you wear the ringtone there.

[Co-host]

And then it was. Then the second one. There was a song that I used to sing that nobody knew that was yours, but I used to pretend was mine.

[T-Pain]

Okay, well, this is. Okay, this is interesting. Let's dive into this.

[Co-host]

Okay. And I got away with it for so long because I had a CD of yours.

[T-Pain]

Okay.

[Co-host]

And it go. They make me feel so joyous.

[T-Pain]

Keep going. You went deep crap. Oh, my God. You were singing that song with nothing to sing it about. You didn't turn the song into something about ass. That was about my kids.

[Co-host]

Really?

[T-Pain]

That's what's about my kids you turn into. You didn't got off the song. That's crazy. No, but that. You know what? And that was one of the songs that took me a while to do. It didn't take me a while to do, but it. It took a while to get accepted from, like, my team, my managers, and everything like that. And it was like, you sure you want to do a song with no auto tune? That's kind of your sound. And I was like, it's about my kids, man. This ain't about, like, the sound. I. I would.

[Female Caller]

I'd.

[T-Pain]

I'd rather sound terrible on a song about my kids than try to make a song sound perfect and fake about something I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was such a. It was such a pivot for me that people didn't pay attention to it. And I was kind of. I was kind of okay with that. I was kind of okay because it wasn't. I wasn't the best at my voice at the time. So I was like, thank God nobody actually heard it. But I did want to get it out of my system. And it reached my kids, and my kids know the song and they listen to it still. To this day, my kids still listen to that song. And also, glad you got some pussy off of it.

[Co-host]

I call it my Mariana Rivera.

[T-Pain]

It was my closer.

[Co-host]

I don't know if we should be doing this. They make me feel so joyous.

[T-Pain]

That's about Titus. That's about Titus. That's about in.

[Mike]

So I saw you recently tweet about cuz Lil Wayne dropped an album and it's probably not being the most received.

[T-Pain]

Well, on Twitter, it is not the most rece.

[Mike]

And I saw you talking about how this makes you not want to kind of, like, drop new music.

[T-Pain]

It's not even that, man. But it wasn't Wayne's album that made me think that, first of all, Wayne was rapping his ass off on that entire album. Wayne went crazy on that whole thing. Obviously, there was a. A mishap or misstep on, you know, picking the production and stuff like that. But, you know, once you get into a comfortable state and your engineers start making beats, and he's like, yo, I got beats. And you're like, oh, yeah, why are we looking?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? Like, why would we look anywhere else? Absolutely. Load that up. Let me rap. Wayne gonna rap regardless. It don't matter what it is. Wayne can rap on a bunch of frogs croaking, and it'll still be amazing.

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? So the fact that he got comfortable. Comfortable, you know, with the music that he was presented with because it was available to him right then. And, you know, he used, like. He used AI on the intro and stuff like that. And, you know, Wayne being Wayne, like, Wayne don't look outside of where he is.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

So it's like when you use AI, he don't know how much that's going to be frowned upon and stuff like that or what, you know, what the stigma is on AI right now. So when you look at it from Wayne's perspective, this is a great album.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? But when you look at it from people that's been waiting on Wayne, it's a different perspective because Wayne's heard everything that he's done. Now, keep in mind, I talked to Wayne's manager yesterday, and he's like, Wayne had 60 other records, I bet, 60 other records to pick from. He's like, look, that's. That's the palette that Wayne wanted to lay. We put it out. Maybe not here's the thing, but here's what I'm saying. If everybody feels like Wayne was rapping his ass off and he just needed better beats, I told them, let other producers do it.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[T-Pain]

Let other producers do it.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

There's no harm in putting Wayne acapellas out. Remember when that'd be fire? What? Jay Z? What?

[Co-host]

Jay Z?

[T-Pain]

There was a Jay Z album that put out all the instrumentals.

[Mike]

Right.

[T-Pain]

And he just let people rap on. It's like, you feel like you could do better than Jay on the song.

[Co-host]

That's what I feel like it was more of. Because Wayne seems like the type to be like, there's not many people that can rap on this beat, so I'm gonna make a record and put out it on this beat.

[T-Pain]

He was showing acrobatics. He was showing acrobatics. And not a lot of people can keep up with that.

[Co-host]

But that's how you got. I feel like that's how he became one of the greatest of all time.

[T-Pain]

Correct.

[Co-host]

Is rapping differently than anybody else.

[T-Pain]

But now the formula to everybody winning right now is to do the same thing as everybody else.

[Co-host]

That's true.

[T-Pain]

You can't. You can't venture off. No, you can't venture off. But you know, again, those beats were available to him at the time and shout out to his engineer because it was an engineer that produced a lot of those things. And when you get that close knit relationship. Cool. Like that's, that's, you know, hey, what you got on your computer before I go looking outside of the studio?

[Co-host]

Right? Yes, very true.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? Like you're always gonna do that and you're not gonna go off of. Well, this beat outside of us is better than this. You're gonna go with whatever the best is right here. What you presented me with. You know what I'm saying? And that may not be the best decision because you're in a bubble. But Wayne is Wayne. Wayne gonna wrap his ass off. Wayne is still one of the best rappers of all time. And there were just some decisions that

[Mike]

were made that I think also it was the. The title of the album as well. It being a Carter, I think. Yeah.

[T-Pain]

It's so much pressure.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

They called me for it. They called me for it. They called me for the Carter. And when they were like, hey, we're about to drop the Carter. Can you provide us something? Absolutely not.

[Female Caller]

No.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, I will not do that.

[Co-host]

Okay. My question for you is because I want to say you were probably the most rumored person I've ever seen in so many joint albums. T. Pain doing a joint album with him. T. Pain doing a joint album with Barack Obama.

[T-Pain]

That was kind of fire, though. Obama like, oh, fellow Americans, T. Pain's about to.

[Mike]

You just do the intro.

[T-Pain]

Some hot all over your faces. Maybe, you know, maybe all of your grandma, you know, I'll take this time to say T. Pain maybe the best. So many people try to copy. Not so many have succeeded and suck my balls.

[Co-host]

In this day and age. There's so many Samples coming out. Like, there's so many, like, songs being revamped into more drill songs. Like, you'll see. Would you let someone.

[T-Pain]

I have. I have let.

[Co-host]

You have let someone already.

[T-Pain]

God. Have they not done well? Jesus Christ.

[Female Caller]

Exactly.

[Male Caller]

Which one.

[T-Pain]

You answered your own question. I've let people sample my songs. I've let people do their things. But, you know, once. Once Tory Lanez did the Jerry Sprunger, everybody was like, oh, T. Pain. Letting people sample the chat.

[Male Caller]

Do it.

[T-Pain]

And then it's just back to back to back to back. And I'm like, all right. You go, nothing, Absolutely nothing.

[Co-host]

And then that bar was set way too high.

[T-Pain]

But it was like.

[Co-host]

But it was crazy.

[T-Pain]

But the thing was, I didn't do anything. Like, I didn't charge anybody anything. You know, I didn't charge. I didn't charge Tori for. For Jerry Smonger.

[Co-host]

Oh, damn.

[T-Pain]

I didn't. I don't charge people for, like, using something that's already making me money. Why would I. I'm already making the money.

[Co-host]

Right.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? Like, so it. It's not a. It's not a priority for me. Oh, this person said, like, even Fabio. Fabio was on some. Let me. Let me get. Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Female Caller]

Nothing.

[T-Pain]

Absolutely nothing.

[Co-host]

That the bar was way too high, though. That the first song that I'm sprung was probably, like, one of. It's a signature song for you. And then, like, for you also to do, like, be on the remix and then still be firing.

[T-Pain]

That's the thing. I don't.

[Female Caller]

With.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

If you sample it, do your thing. You want me to be a part of it. Okay, now it's a different. That's when it's not free anymore. Do you think Run with it. Great song. I sample stuff all the time. Fantastic. Who hasn't taken the drums from the front of. You don't have to call us. Your, like, everybody got for real drums. He left it open, bro. Absolutely. We gonna take that shit. But you want me to be a part of it now? Now it's not for anymore.

[Mike]

So do you have any plans on a new album?

[T-Pain]

I don't want to.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

I don't want to. The thing. The. You know what's crazy that this whole segue is. It's crazy because I've said that I don't want to do the album sequence anymore. Because anytime when we release singles.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Get it. Here you go. Single.

[Female Caller]

You.

[T-Pain]

Bam, bam, bam. Single. Totally fine.

[Co-host]

Somebody just dropped to their knees here. You said album.

[T-Pain]

I gotta go to New York, I gotta go to la. I gotta talk to big boy. I gotta talk to. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host]

You know what I'm saying?

[T-Pain]

So it's gotta. It's this whole. The album sequence of releasing an album. I don't with that anymore. I don't feel like convincing people that my album is good.

[Mike]

Right.

[T-Pain]

You gotta do this whole run, you know what I'm saying? Like, the crowds and it's like, you gotta go. You gotta talk, talk. You gotta talk to everybody to convince. And it's not like an organic thing that's like, yeah, I want to talk to these. It's like, I need to go on there and tell people that my album is good.

[Female Caller]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And then I think it's judged differently too, on the Internet, because, you know, like, you'll have people like academics maybe say, sold 20, 20, 20 units.

[Co-host]

And everybody's gonna say, flop, flop, flop.

[T-Pain]

To put all this work in for months, months on hand, and then have somebody judge everything you've done in a year, in one day, in a Friday is crazy. Crazy to have everybody say, yeah, all that you did didn't do as much as this other person. So you, you suck. Your album sucks because not enough people bought your in a week.

[Mike]

I feel it.

[T-Pain]

Damn. And then if nobody buys her sitting a week, then you get nominated for some shit, and then you get to sit in a whole room of your 40,000 square foot room of all your peers that do the same thing. And all of them people say, nope, your shit suck, bro. All my friends think it too. It's not just because when you, when you hear from the outside, you're like, y' all don't know music. I know music. I'm a musician. This is what we do. Boom, boom, boom. And then other musicians are like, no, no, no, no. That's a sucked.

[Male Caller]

We didn't.

[T-Pain]

We didn't like it either. And it's just like, damn, why y' all didn't nominate me for this? No, we didn't. No, we didn't like it either. We're musicians as well, and we didn't like it either.

[Co-host]

I feel like, damn, I know you don't want to do it. I feel like you would do super well because it's just.

[T-Pain]

It's the process of trying to convince people that it'll do well.

[Co-host]

I got you.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? To go to all these different radio stations, you got to go to a radio station in Wichita to tell people, hey, please, please listen to this thing. I've been working on for two years. Like, n. Not going through all that. I'll drop. Like, okay, I would. Now, I'm not saying that I'm going to stop making music, but album. The album process is not my favorite anymore. I will drop singles. I will drop albums. I'm not going to promote it. I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you. If you want to hear it, I'll tell you where to go get it. Yeah, but I'm not doing the process

[Co-host]

of showing up at the Breakfast Club.

[T-Pain]

Come on, bro. I'm not done. Me and Charlemagne had our quarrels already. We done did our things already, and we have respect for each other now. We know that. We respect the game, but we know that it's not worth it.

[Co-host]

Right?

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? Like I said on my post, the energy that is put into being the first meme about an album is not worth the energy it takes to make a dope album. It's just not worth it. We've done years and years and years of this work, and then your album could be shut down by one meme. And it's just. That's just what it is. And I'm not willing. I'm not willing to put my mental health at risk for that. I'm. I'm at such a great place, bro. My. My team is great over here. We having Wisconsin Fest. You know what I'm saying? The dummies are here.

[Female Caller]

My.

[T-Pain]

My wife, my baby mama, and my girlfriend get along. We are okay. Like, we are okay. I'm actually in a good place. I don't want to.

[Mike]

Goddamn girl and my baby.

[T-Pain]

I don't want to. Fucking. I don't want to.

[Co-host]

You did mention us, though.

[T-Pain]

I don't want to get out of that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in a good place, and I don't want anything to jeopardize that. And the second that you put the power in the public's hands, you jeopardize all of that.

[Co-host]

That's why I used to feel bad for Roddy Ric. She went, like, live on Twitter one day, like, playing some music, and, like, the fans literally just got in there just to troll them.

[T-Pain]

That's what it is, though. Like, the way. The way my algorithm. I don't even know why my algorithm is like this. I think I watched, like, two videos on fucking YouTube, but now when I go to my home page on YouTube, it's just like, the rise and fall of such.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

How this Person lost all his fans in one day. What the hell happened since this person. Yeah, like, Like, I don't want to be one of them videos. The thing, the one thing I learned from Drake, and here's the crazy thing. One thing I learned from Drake, but one thing, he hasn't followed his own words. Drake said, I want to be one of them people that gracefully bow out and not get kicked out. Now, yeah, I, I, I have ever since said, yeah, thank you. I appreciate y'.

[Female Caller]

All.

[T-Pain]

I'll see y'.

[Male Caller]

All.

[T-Pain]

I'll see y' all when I drop. Don't worry about it. I'll just drop something. Let me know if you heard it. Drake is like, no, listen. Okay, I got another one. Oh, check this out.

[Co-host]

Check this out.

[T-Pain]

Y' all didn't like that one? Okay, real quick, just one more. Let me try one more. And then he's the person that he said, you know, he didn't want to be. And I learned that from him. Like, when he said that I want to gracefully bow out and not get kicked out, I was like, you know what?

[Male Caller]

I'm out.

[Mike]

This is live shows now.

[Female Caller]

I'm out.

[T-Pain]

This. I'm not trying to impress y'.

[Male Caller]

All.

[T-Pain]

Y' all don't give a if I live or die. Why the would I keep trying to impress y'?

[Female Caller]

All?

[T-Pain]

Nigga, I'm out. I'm done. I did everything that I was trying to do. I changed the game. I made a sound. What else? What else?

[Co-host]

You literally can't. You. It's only. Even if you make a hit today.

[T-Pain]

It won't even. It's just normal. Yes, it's just normal.

[Co-host]

It's like.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, that's. Okay.

[Mike]

Well, we're gonna get into our listener caller segment now.

[T-Pain]

I love that.

[Mike]

Before we do that, we'd like to take an energy shot.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, Energy shot.

[Female Caller]

Would you?

[Co-host]

Yeah, Mike loves to take random liquids.

[Mike]

That's crazy to say.

[T-Pain]

Random liquids.

[Co-host]

They literally call you.

[T-Pain]

That was actually crazy.

[Co-host]

Mike X.

[Male Caller]

There you go.

[T-Pain]

That was actually crazy.

[Mike]

That's so crazy.

[T-Pain]

Now we got. We got. Damn, that is crazy.

[Mike]

Random.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Now we got the.

[Mike]

Nah, that's.

[Co-host]

That's crazy.

[T-Pain]

We got the orange vanilla vortex. Yeah, yeah, we got the orange vanilla vortex.

[Co-host]

Orange vanilla vortex of the good game.

[T-Pain]

You know what? Y' all can have that one. So.

[Co-host]

Here's the thing.

[T-Pain]

Here's the thing. We don't want people to do because it's so good people to do a whole energy drink and then come back for another one, like, immediately. And then you run into that Starbucks, when they did that energized lemonade, and everybody just kept getting them. It was like my heart exploded. Don't do that. Do half.

[Co-host]

Oh, half.

[Mike]

Okay. I'm an energy drink fiend, though.

[T-Pain]

And you can. And this is enough.

[Mike]

It is.

[T-Pain]

And this is enough. You do half of it in your drink, and you're good. And it doesn't matter what you're drinking. Vodka.

[Mike]

Oh, I can mix it with this.

[T-Pain]

You can.

[Female Caller]

You.

[T-Pain]

You hit it with that. Hit it with half of that, and you got it. That wasn't half, but you see how

[Co-host]

you dropped it in there?

[T-Pain]

It was the exact motion that I did. I totally understand. You did. That's too much. No, no, no. You're not gonna die, but you're gonna be wired.

[Co-host]

Now let's.

[Male Caller]

We gotta.

[Co-host]

Oh. Beforehand. Let's warn you, like, some of our callers, they don't have it all, so we.

[T-Pain]

Oh, no, I know. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Y' all don't around about me. I. I watch the now.

[Mike]

Okay?

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? I know what's going on. It took me a while to get back to y', all, but that was because I was trying to see what y' all was gonna do about it. There's this one kid. There's this one kid that's, like, dancing in his car until he meets me. And he's on, like, day 97, and he thinks I'm gonna, like. He thinks I'm gonna stop him. Like, bro, you're dancing. You're dancing to my music in your car for 97 days. You're crazy. I'm literally avoiding to not meet him so he can keep dancing to my music.

[Co-host]

You got to give him a number now. Let's give him a number.

[T-Pain]

130 out.

[Mike]

Think about it.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. One. 130. 130. 1:30.

[Mike]

What day is he on?

[T-Pain]

What? He's on 90. Gotta be 130.

[Mike]

No, no. 130 is too little.

[T-Pain]

130 I'll get in the car.

[Mike]

Yeah, okay.

[T-Pain]

130. I'll get in the car. 100.

[Co-host]

You gotta be careful getting in the car with somebody that's dancing for you.

[T-Pain]

He's the only person. He looks like a. An idiot. D Windows down, my song blasting. He's going crazy.

[Mike]

Different song every time.

[T-Pain]

Different song every time. Crazy. I got 500 songs. He's got a lot to go. 1:30. I'll get in the car with him and dance with him.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Back, back, back. Hey, you heard that. Here first 130, little man. Yo, what's the deal?

[Male Caller]

Hear you.

[Co-host]

Yo.

[Male Caller]

Hey, what's up? How you doing? Hey, you know, out here at work. Let me. First of all, happy. Yes, I'm at work. First of all, first of all, happy early Juneteenth.

[Mike]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Male Caller]

Second of all, Second of all, shout out to the nation.

[T-Pain]

Okay, okay. Of Islam.

[Male Caller]

Third of all, the audio. Listen.

[Co-host]

Okay. Yeah, you dig grind a little bit

[T-Pain]

too high right now.

[Co-host]

Can you guess who our special guest is by his voice?

[Male Caller]

Then have him say something again.

[T-Pain]

Hey, how's it going? I'm from the green, wet green.

[Male Caller]

It's either Bill Clinton or a random white.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

You did it.

[Mike]

It's Bill. It's Bill. I got a question. I got a question for you. What's your biggest hot take?

[Male Caller]

What's your question?

[Mike]

What's your biggest hot take?

[Female Caller]

My.

[Male Caller]

My biggest hot take is it's okay to be a grower and not a shower.

[T-Pain]

Okay, let's talk about this. That's what the I'm talking about, baby.

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Now, this the nation I represent. This the nation I represent, baby. It ain't enough. It ain't enough thing for medium out of here. Yeah, we need something. We need something for the medium. Have you, have you been shaped, boys out here?

[Mike]

Have you been ashamed for this before?

[Male Caller]

No, no.

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Male Caller]

Wait, wait. And I haven't been shamed because I know how to hide it. You know, you got.

[Co-host]

It ain't that hard to hide, though.

[Mike]

Bad.

[T-Pain]

No, no, no, it is.

[Male Caller]

It is.

[T-Pain]

N. We gotta have. We gotta have some situation. We gotta have situations going on because, you know, we gotta. We gotta have time. I think, you know, time heals all wounds and feels all wounds, you know what I'm saying? So I. I understand what you're saying. And it just takes a little bit of, you know, it just takes a little bit of time. We at least got to walk in the room with a half a job going on.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

We can't just. We can't just. We can't just whip out. See, the thing is, the people that can whip out, the people that can't whip out, it's just the same presentation the whole time, you know what I'm saying? We whip out at 10 and we say. And we, we whip out at 10. We. We whip out at 10 o' clock and we say more at 11. That ass. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host]

He said, oh, I know.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, I know.

[Male Caller]

It's. It's like a hellcat, you know, You Gotta let the engine warm up.

[T-Pain]

You gotta give it a little bit to get on that demon time.

[Male Caller]

We gotta get that warm up, you

[T-Pain]

know, you gotta warm up to get on that demon time. We need that E85 in the tank, huh?

[Male Caller]

That's right. That's right.

[Mike]

You know what's, what's the hiding technique then?

[Male Caller]

What's. My hiding technique is just I, like I said, I tease them, you know, they try to touch me. I don't know, touch me, like, get off me. You know, maybe not, maybe not that. Maybe, maybe not that far. But, you know, I play it off, you know, it's. It's one of those times. It's one of those situations, you know, you kind of just go as you go.

[T-Pain]

So she's a little hotter than you. You can't really dial it back because, you know, you gotta, you gotta push forward, so.

[Male Caller]

Well, no, if she, if she's badder than, than usual.

[T-Pain]

No, no, no, I'm not saying. Okay, let's just put this in layman terms. She's hornier than you at the end of the night and you like, I got to get at least like, I gotta have a chub going on. Oh, you know what I'm saying? If she horny as she start reaching now. What do you. You know what I'm saying?

[Male Caller]

What's your technique at that point? There is no half chubby. If she's, if she's, you know, look at Uber.

[T-Pain]

It's all in the Uber on the way home. You ain't fully chubbed up, you ain't ready to go. You know what I'm saying? But if she like, look, this, this Hennessy just kicked in. I need to, I need to feel full rod.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

What's happening?

[Co-host]

It's gonna be funny when she grab your, like a cigarette. What the,

[T-Pain]

what's the, what's the technique? What's the technique if she fully horny and you like, I gotta. I need a little bit of time

[Co-host]

now. Playing hard to get with a little meat is crazy. That's what he going have to do.

[Male Caller]

First of all, first of all, I never said my meat was little pat, so.

[Co-host]

Yes, you did.

[T-Pain]

You literally you, you, you. The second you said anything, you joined the medium meat club.

[Male Caller]

Is that what that means?

[T-Pain]

Yeah, the girl that. You're a grower, not a sewer.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

If you ain't a full elephant trunk off the, the top, you were a grower.

[Male Caller]

You. Maybe not the elephant truck. More, more. Maybe like a hard voice like a half thrown banana.

[T-Pain]

But you know what's?

[Co-host]

Crazy. T pain. Being the first person to tell you that your meat little is crazy.

[T-Pain]

N. But I'm in it. Hey, look. Hey, look. I know for a fact I don't have the biggest dick in the world, because I watch a lot of porn. I watch a lot of porn. I don't have a porn. I don't have a porn dick, but I. I do know how to satisfy, and I do know how to get where I. I'm. Where I'm going. Look. Same way. I don't know how to swim, but I will get to the edge of the pool very fast.

[Co-host]

All right.

[Mike]

All right, bro. You have a good one.

[Male Caller]

Yo, can I tell a story?

[Co-host]

A story?

[Mike]

That was your story.

[Male Caller]

It's. It's a quick story.

[Co-host]

Oh, go ahead, bro. You sound boring, bro.

[Mike]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Male Caller]

So I work part time at a restaurant, right? Last week, I gave a cook a cookie, and I told. He asked me for a cookie. I told him no. I told him in English and in Spanish, and he still said. He still said, give me the cookie. Within two hours. Yes, within two hours. That boy went home.

[Mike]

That was your story?

[Male Caller]

No, he was so hot, he went home.

[T-Pain]

You gave him a weed cookie.

[Co-host]

I thought I literally told y'.

[Male Caller]

All.

[Co-host]

He sounds boring.

[Mike]

All right, bro, you have a good.

[T-Pain]

This man's 100 years old. You know they put weed in cookies now. This is crazy.

[Co-host]

Let me tell you an edible.

[T-Pain]

Let me tell you what's going on. You know, I don't know if y' all know this, but they put the drugs in the cookies now.

[Co-host]

You ever heard of edibles before?

[Mike]

Yo.

[Female Caller]

Hello.

[Mike]

Welcome to Crash to me's podcast.

[Female Caller]

What's up?

[Mike]

What up? What up?

[T-Pain]

I love you so much. I love you so much.

[Female Caller]

I'm bringing the positive vibes because the last time you guys called me, y' all was talking about, somebody need a snicker.

[T-Pain]

Oh, God damn it.

[Co-host]

She had a lot. Can you. Okay, we got a special guest. Can you tell who it is by his voice? He's about to say something.

[T-Pain]

Hey, baby.

[Mike]

All right, I got a question for you. What's your. What's your biggest hot take?

[Female Caller]

There's no reason for a man to be wearing ankle socks.

[T-Pain]

Okay? All right, we got to calm down. Okay. All right, check this out. Check this out. Check this out. Now, I will say that, yes, there is. There is one thing. I don't want to interrupt you, but I'm a man, so I have to. Okay, okay. Now, specifically, my wife does not like seeing socks. She hates everything that YG has ever worn in his life. My wife does not like seeing socks. I can't wear socks above my shoes or if I got like shorts on, if I got pants on. We're good.

[Female Caller]

That.

[T-Pain]

But here's the thing. When I.

[Female Caller]

So you're wearing shorts with ankle socks.

[T-Pain]

I didn't know. So the only reason. The only reason I have to is because when I'm doing. When I'm performing, my socks go under my foot. And that is the worst feeling of all time. Now, when you shuffling when you're doing, your socks sometimes go under your foot if your socks are ill fitting. But I'm telling you, if you can see socks above shoes, it's totally fine because it might be a reason and don't want to get the gout just from performance. So. But why now? What is your now? Why. Why do you see men not wearing ankle socks?

[Female Caller]

That looks so goofy. I'm not the only person. There's no way I. You know what? Sorry. Because your ankles is probably always showing, but you probably got some shits on right now actually. Yo, check your feet. Check your feet.

[Co-host]

I did.

[Mike]

I did. I think I do.

[Co-host]

They good right now.

[T-Pain]

Oh, they are now.

[Co-host]

You got.

[T-Pain]

You got them all.

[Male Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

Can nobody see my angles right now? I'm covert in this. I'm covert in this.

[Female Caller]

Hell no. There's no reason. Like, I don't. It's like a big ass sometimes. I don't.

[Mike]

What, so what about like. No. What about no. No show socks?

[T-Pain]

Yeah, I was just about to say that.

[Female Caller]

No show socks. With your twinkle toe ass. Why the. You have no show socks?

[T-Pain]

Okay, I don't know if you know. I don't know if you know.

[Female Caller]

When.

[T-Pain]

When were you born? What year were you born?

[Female Caller]

98. It.

[T-Pain]

Okay, so you don't know. You don't know. Used to have to make ankle socks.

[Mike]

They used to have to roll. Roll the bottom.

[T-Pain]

So this is the thing.

[Co-host]

Not even roll the bottom. I used to pull it all the way to the ankle and then take. Fold them back.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, you fold them under your feet.

[Female Caller]

Fold it under your foot.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

We didn't have. We didn't have these privileges. Can you imagine a bra where you had to. To fold the top of it down to fit your titties? Could you imagine that? Like, could you imagine, like, we had.

[Female Caller]

We.

[T-Pain]

We had to make sacrifices.

[Female Caller]

Girl, you wouldn't have that problem if you wasn't out here borrowing socks. Sounds like it's not. No, we.

[T-Pain]

They just literally. They literally made one. No, they literally made One side sock for everybody. We didn't have the privileges. We didn't have those privileges of having different. Different size that. That, that 6 to 12 and 12 to 18. That just happened in the early 2000s. That just started happening. Used to buy one sock and used to have to make that sock whatever size you wanted to by folding it under your foot.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

There's nothing else you can do. We didn't have the privilege of having different size shits.

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Shaq didn't start playing. We didn't have that. And I understand that. You just don't.

[Female Caller]

You just.

[Mike]

You.

[T-Pain]

You wouldn't remember that because you didn't have to go through.

[Co-host]

NBA players used to wear e socks.

[Female Caller]

Y' all popping at me, cuz y' all some pilgrims.

[T-Pain]

Pilgrims. Okay, so check this out. Check this out. Look up, look up when. Look up when different side socks, like, really start coming into play and start getting. But you, of course, you don't want to. Of course you didn't want to. But we had to. We had to. They didn't make different size socks box for us when we was going to Walmart.

[Co-host]

You literally just call us to argue like, who is this dude and why you not taking it out on him?

[T-Pain]

Hey, look. Hey, look. I will argue with you all day. I will argue with you. I will argue with you all day. All you got to do is send me a picture of your feet.

[Female Caller]

Who is this, though? He said. He's talking about. He was shuffling.

[T-Pain]

I'm a white guy. I'm a white guy. I'm a white guy. They allow me to stop. Just let me say it doesn't matter.

[Mike]

They'll see it.

[T-Pain]

They'll see it.

[Mike]

Exactly.

[T-Pain]

When they see it, they just let me say. Sometimes I really want her to know

[Co-host]

who it is, because I want. Cuz she said that she basically called you broke at some point. So.

[T-Pain]

So I want you to know.

[Co-host]

So our special guest, this is. This is T Pain you're talking to.

[Female Caller]

Yeah, but that note, real quick. We hear it.

[T-Pain]

What you call me? What you say?

[Female Caller]

I said hit that note real quick.

[T-Pain]

Let me hear Shorty. Good ass.

[Mike]

All right, you have a good one. It's always funny because he said a lot.

[T-Pain]

Let me say it. You're crazy. We only had one side.

[Mike]

We only had one side.

[Co-host]

We had to.

[T-Pain]

I'm just making sure because it was just whatever the basketball players was wearing. That was all we had.

[Co-host]

Whatever Allen Iverson had on it.

[Mike]

Yo, welcome to Crash Dummy's podcast.

[Female Caller]

What's up, Mike?

[T-Pain]

Welcome, people. Yeah, we don't we don't do that. We're just like, what's up?

[Mike]

What's up?

[Co-host]

What's up? Mike who?

[Female Caller]

The island.

[Male Caller]

Oh. Oh.

[T-Pain]

I think you need. I think you need to. I think just. Just calm down a little bit.

[Female Caller]

Why you stuttering?

[T-Pain]

Because I have a stutter. I'm the person that, that I'm. I'm the director that made Black Panther is Ryan Coogler. I was. I was gonna let her pick. I didn't think she was. I think she was a part of the culture.

[Male Caller]

I didn't know.

[Mike]

I got a question for you. What's your biggest hot take?

[Female Caller]

We need more violence in the world.

[Male Caller]

What?

[T-Pain]

Balance.

[Female Caller]

Violence.

[T-Pain]

Violence. Oh, we need more violence.

[Mike]

Where you.

[T-Pain]

Where are you from?

[Female Caller]

I'm from la. Where Pat at?

[Co-host]

I'm right here. What's up?

[Female Caller]

Oh, this your forehead?

[Mike]

She's Pat's forehead on my patreon.

[Co-host]

Oh, this you. Oh. How much money you make a year?

[Female Caller]

We make the same amount.

[T-Pain]

I'm not sure that we getting sponsors for this episode alone.

[Co-host]

What's our sponsors right now?

[T-Pain]

Shout out to the sponsors. That's about to drop all of us.

[Mike]

Why do you think we need more violence, though?

[Female Caller]

Nah, I just like. I think we really like when people wild out and like, really like, just beat the out of people or like hurt somebody real bad. I feel like we should lessen the time on it.

[T-Pain]

Okay.

[Female Caller]

And like, just let people get that out.

[T-Pain]

Cuz, like, so what? So, so what if the whole thing. So what if other people say we need more violence against just you by yourself?

[Female Caller]

Just. I'll beat the shot of anybody.

[T-Pain]

I mean, you can't beat the out of multiple people, though. Yeah, you ain't you ain't you, Batman? Like, what if multiple people want to beat the out of you?

[Female Caller]

I mean, shit, I' ma just had to put the switch.

[T-Pain]

But what if you deserve it? Like, what if it's like, we deserve more? We need more violence in the shit. And what if, like, one of the things that we need to mitigate is people like you?

[Female Caller]

What if it's you?

[Mike]

Another one that's calling for more violence.

[T-Pain]

Here's the thing. It is. It is people like me, but also all the people like me are also going to come against the people like you. So. And it seems so far the people that we've called, you're the only people. You're the only person like you. So out. I think I have more people.

[Female Caller]

I beat your ass.

[T-Pain]

You know what? Hey, I invited, I invited, I invited. It ain't it ain't nothing better in the world than angry sex. And I'm so ready for it. Okay, you said.

[Co-host]

I feel like she said that she liked one of your songs before. She's like an avid Patreon listener.

[Female Caller]

Her.

[Co-host]

Her profile picture is my forehead. She's. She's kind of.

[T-Pain]

I mean, I paid for. Not that one. Patreon got expensive.

[Co-host]

You said you liked one of his songs before.

[Female Caller]

What song?

[Co-host]

You said it in the chat. Well, you'll see. You'll see. What?

[T-Pain]

Backseat action

[Female Caller]

now. Only. Only songs I've been seeing is Keith who.

[Male Caller]

Okay.

[Co-host]

She say key.

[Mike]

Oh, Keith. Oh, okay.

[Male Caller]

Keith Lee.

[Mike]

Welcome to Crash Dummies podcast. Oh, no. I mean, what up.

[T-Pain]

That was. That was so. Thank you for calling PetSmart. How bad have you. The hell.

[Mike]

All right, we gotta. We got a question for you.

[Male Caller]

All right.

[Mike]

All right. What's your biggest hot take? So.

[Male Caller]

My biggest hot take? Yeah. A celebrity shouldn't exist.

[Mike]

Celebrities shouldn't exist.

[Male Caller]

No, no.

[T-Pain]

I actually, with this. I actually with this. I'm not gonna lie to you. I actually, with this.

[Mike]

What's your reason?

[Male Caller]

Too many people are normal guys.

[T-Pain]

Too many people out here carrying what

[Male Caller]

they do, like, commenting on IG posts, trying to see who was what, like, doing what.

[Co-host]

Do you, like, hold your breath?

[T-Pain]

He's taking a piss right this second. So check this out.

[Mike]

So.

[T-Pain]

So basically. So basically what I. The reason I With this is because it's like there's so many people better than. That's famous. Yeah, that's just normal, like, wild. While Mike wasn't practicing, there was somebody becoming better, right? Just. That couldn't get recognition because they don't have the resources. They don't have the. The, you know, the. The eyes on them and like that. I always think this at the same time. And I. Because I used to be around a bunch of celebrities in. In, like, before I became one, and I was always like, man, why don't people like this around these people?

[Male Caller]

Right?

[T-Pain]

Like, because I used to have a camera on me all the time and I used to film these people. It's like a little JVC little. Little high eight. You know what I'm saying? Like, tape camera. And I used to have the camera on these people all the time, and they just normal people. And I'm like, man, but when they got around other people, I was like, something's. This is weird.

[Mike]

What the.

[T-Pain]

Like, why is it such a difference on the sides of the camera? When you put a camera in between people, the people behind it are fine, but the people in Front of it are not. You know what I'm saying? And it's just. I always thought like, this shouldn't. This is weird. This should not be possible. This should not be possible. The people that came up with me that were singing the same way as me and I around and got in camera before them somehow. People go crazier over me than they do other people I came up with. But it's just because I was in front of the camera and not behind it.

[Male Caller]

Right.

[T-Pain]

And it's just like, I never understood that. So I kind of. With this thing. Celebrity shouldn't exist is a. That's a top one. But I don't. I don't. The thing is, I don't know why they do. Yeah, that's the only thing. I feel it.

[Co-host]

That's true. But like, this dude, like, you got some talent or something.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. It was just us talking for them, but he got his point across.

[Co-host]

No, he left.

[Mike]

I didn't think he was gonna elaborate anymore either.

[Male Caller]

What do you do?

[T-Pain]

Man's podcast. I got a question for you, man.

[Male Caller]

What's that game? We back.

[T-Pain]

What's your. What's your dumbest hot take, man?

[Male Caller]

Just because the stink. That don't mean it's ran through.

[T-Pain]

That's. Put this on this goddamn podcast. Let me talk to this goddamn band.

[Mike]

You agree with this?

[Female Caller]

I.

[T-Pain]

With this man? This man. Just this spitting. This what I'm talking about. Some people have not. No, I'm not. You know, I'm not defending anybody.

[Female Caller]

I'm just saying is that t. Pain. My.

[T-Pain]

Yo, my man is spitting. Some people have chemical imbalances. Sometimes people use soaps that don't agree with their. With their.

[Male Caller]

With their.

[Co-host]

With their body.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mike]

Some people.

[T-Pain]

Some people don't know.

[Female Caller]

I'm grown enough to know. I'm grown enough to know the got more than two bodies.

[T-Pain]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But it ain't even about the bodies at this point now. It's about chemical imbalances. Now. It's about making sure that you're using the right products.

[Male Caller]

Making sure, man, this sound like Kevin

[Female Caller]

Hardy using big words.

[Male Caller]

And, bro, you got too much money now.

[T-Pain]

Chemical imbalance is being a big word to you. I got more questions about. But here's what I'm saying. Some people. Some people need to figure out why there are so many soaps, why there are so many oils, why there are so many feminine products, why there are so many different things. And that's a. That's A. That's a real thing. That don't mean that it's ran through. That don't mean nothing. You got to take chances in life, man, to eat that sometimes, you know, you got to. I don't know, I don't know.

[Female Caller]

If you got an odor, you should stick your tongue down there. But I said sometimes I didn't been down there.

[T-Pain]

And I don't think if you sticking your dick in there, I feel like the tongue is not. Not as bad.

[Mike]

So have you had this experience before?

[Female Caller]

Huh?

[Mike]

This has happened to you before, I'm guessing person.

[Female Caller]

Yeah, bro. You know, I didn't ran up on some stank like I didn't ran up on some. I'm knowing I'm the only.

[Male Caller]

That didn't been hitting.

[Female Caller]

It

[Co-host]

doesn't exist.

[T-Pain]

It does. Sometimes they literally have to. You gotta figure out sometimes that should

[Female Caller]

just be a little.

[T-Pain]

You gotta figure out what work with your body sometimes.

[Female Caller]

So Bo, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I got a question for y'. All. Y' all ain't never run up on those things.

[T-Pain]

Stop lying.

[Mike]

No, I've been in a lot.

[T-Pain]

No, no, no.

[Mike]

I personally been in a lot of long term relationships.

[Co-host]

I'll defer. I'll defer to a second half.

[T-Pain]

That's correct. I done ran up on some. But then I was, you know, I was politely like, hey, maybe we try another soap. Maybe we try try another soap. And you know what I'm saying? Maybe we try different thing because I'll bring us like, you know, when we start taking showers together. And I'm like, hey, baby, we. You know what I'm saying?

[Female Caller]

Just.

[T-Pain]

Just use my soap. Boom, boom, boom. And then it's a whole different thing.

[Co-host]

And it's just like, hey, babe, I'm watching your process and I didn't see

[T-Pain]

you going between your legs. It's not even the process because a lot of. Because sometimes when. I don't even know how to say this. When women use the, you know, the douche. The deuce. Right. When you use the deuce. Sometimes that's washing out the. That actually makes their smell.

[Mike]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? But she's been taught so much to get all that out of there.

[Male Caller]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

That it actually washes the away and sometimes. Don't. Don't listen to me. I'm not a biologist. I'm just speaking from experience. I'm just speaking from experience. It's not another man trying to tell women how to smell back to her friends.

[Mike]

Like.

[Co-host]

Like t Pain said, it's Nice.

[T-Pain]

I'm only saying this. No, I'm only saying this from experience. And I've only noticed it more after my wife told me, like, hey, sometimes, you know, cuz, you know, we deal with a lot of other women, so she's like, you know, I. I watched my wife, like, tell other women, like, hey, try this. Boom, boom, boom. This, this, this. Maybe this is not a product for you. Boom, boom, boom. And then this is like a honey pot thing. And then there's like this, this, this, other.

[Female Caller]

I ain't going to lie. Pain, you turn, bro. This is.

[T-Pain]

This is common knowledge, bro.

[Co-host]

It look like you.

[T-Pain]

You sound like the type of ready

[Co-host]

call anybody, Big bro.

[Male Caller]

I can tell

[T-Pain]

anybody that's doing anything you ain't doing.

[Male Caller]

Big Br.

[Co-host]

What you got to say to T. Pain, though?

[T-Pain]

N. We got it, bro. We got it, man.

[Male Caller]

Pay, bro.

[Female Caller]

I'm gonna ask you.

[Male Caller]

You was around Wayne during that time he was beefing with dreams? No.

[Female Caller]

Bet you was around Wayne around that time.

[Male Caller]

Dream from.

[Female Caller]

Yeah, with dream. Okay.

[T-Pain]

I don't remember that. I ain't gonna lie to you. Wayne was beefing with the dream.

[Female Caller]

Yes. I'm talking about the singer and when he took his out the club.

[Male Caller]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

I don't know about. Yeah, I don't know about drama. I don't know about drama. It was some music, then I was there. But I don't know about. No, I don't get enough to know about other people's business. I'm still ugly, nigga.

[Female Caller]

I don't know.

[Male Caller]

It was cool talking C. All right, bro.

[T-Pain]

Thank you, bro.

[Co-host]

Nobody gonna believe this. I go to his family.

[T-Pain]

I just got done like.

[Co-host]

Shut up.

[T-Pain]

Back to the basement, you heard?

[Mike]

Welcome to Crash Dummy's podcast.

[Male Caller]

What's going on?

[Mike]

What up?

[T-Pain]

I got a. I got a question for you.

[Male Caller]

Yeah, what's your question?

[T-Pain]

What's your stupid ass hot take

[Male Caller]

that. White girls can't be studs, okay?

[T-Pain]

Not going to lie to you,

[Co-host]

all right?

[T-Pain]

Oh, my God. How do we process what we, as black people, consider us that?

[Mike]

I don't.

[T-Pain]

He might be right.

[Co-host]

He might be right.

[T-Pain]

He might be right. It takes a level of aggression.

[Male Caller]

Every time you see a. A white girl that's a stud, you call her a butch, though, right?

[T-Pain]

Now, now. Now, when we started talking. Now when we. Here's the thing. When we started talking about like. Like biker chicks and like that. You know what I'm saying? We don't call them studs.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[T-Pain]

But the thing that we define as studs. I don't. I don't think. I. I don't think. I know.

[Co-host]

Okay. I will say that white women that are considered studs. Studs, they kind of dress more like Conan O' Brien than they do, like, old school Alan IIs. You know what I'm saying?

[T-Pain]

Three piece. Three piece suits.

[Co-host]

Yeah. It's more like.

[Mike]

I don't know if I know any white studs.

[Co-host]

I'm hosting, like, a night show or something like that.

[Male Caller]

But a Latina could also be a stud.

[Mike]

Yeah. I've seen some Latinos.

[T-Pain]

I know a bunch of. I know a bunch of white lesbians that are dudes in their relationship in general.

[Mike]

There's a lot of Latina.

[T-Pain]

I know a bunch of white lesbians that are the dude in their relationship.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Co-host]

I do know that, too. Studs. Those studs is, like, pretty. Like, very, very rare. Like, to be a stud. Like, there's a. They have an elite club. Like, you got to have some credentials to be considered a stud.

[T-Pain]

They're like wrestlers.

[Male Caller]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

They got stage names, and that's good.

[Co-host]

I think to be a stunt, you have to be from the inner city. City, though.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

I think that's why.

[Male Caller]

Oh, you can't be a suburban stuff.

[Co-host]

No.

[T-Pain]

In. In. In the suburbs, you just like girls.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

The sun just. They dress like Hillary Clinton at wedding, Correct?

[T-Pain]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Mike]

I. Bro. You have a good one, y' all.

[Male Caller]

Appreciate y'. All. Y' all have a good one.

[Mike]

Peace, man. That was great.

[Co-host]

That was amazing.

[Mike]

No, I appreciate you.

[T-Pain]

There's been a bug in my drink this whole time.

[Mike]

Where'd the bug come from, though?

[T-Pain]

I don't know.

[Mike]

It's really.

[T-Pain]

God damn it. Oh, that's gross.

[Mike]

You might as well drink it, though, figuring your cup is kind of crazy and you're triple company, too.

[T-Pain]

Been drinking the juices of it, whatever the it was, I think.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Get my baby.

[Co-host]

Yeah, you. He babysits his drink. You gotta watch, dude. He.

[T-Pain]

There's got to be this multiple bugs in there. Then.

[Co-host]

There's been times where I was like, I wanted to thank people after drinking. Like, damn. I took five shots tonight, and I don't know where they came from. And the whole time I only got two shots, and he just split his. Yeah, you gotta watch him. That's why they call him MC in the.

[T-Pain]

That's fire. That's fire.

[Co-host]

Mike Cosby,

[T-Pain]

Mickey Clipper.

[Mike]

Anyway, Payne, appreciate you coming on.

[Co-host]

When everybody start calling him Pain,

[Mike]

I just feel like saying T. Pain sing some form.

[T-Pain]

A lot.

[Mike]

It's a lot it's just a lot. Way more syllables.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Pain is just simple.

[T-Pain]

Pain is. That's. That's what all my friends call me. But.

[Mike]

Okay, how'd you get the. Where'd you come up with the name T Pain?

[T-Pain]

So my name. Oh, boy. Okay. My name used to be Mr. Torturer. I was, like, 14.

[Co-host]

You have a BDSM name is crazy. Sound like a male stripper. Torture literally sound like a name you

[Mike]

would hear in the Diddy trial right now. That's correct. There's one dude ain't the Punisher or some Punisher.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, a lot of foreshadowing. A lot of foreshadowing.

[Co-host]

For real.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

So I used to be Mr. Torturer, one of people that used to be in my group. Bir Johnson. He was like, I'm not saying that. Wait, no, his name. His name was Bird Chest Johnson. So Bird Chance Johnson looked at Mr. Torture and was like, I'm not saying that. And then I was like, all right, so Torture, what do you got? He was like, t. Pain. A T. T torch. T pain. T pain is good. I was like, yeah, but I don't want the T to be for torture, though.

[Mike]

Yeah,

[T-Pain]

Tallahassee. Absolutely. Tallahassee.

[Male Caller]

Pain.

[T-Pain]

Let's go. Because he was trying to say my name in a verse one day, and it was like, I don't. I'm not saying torture.

[Mike]

Torture. Thank God you let that go.

[Co-host]

The bigger question is, is what's his. His new name?

[T-Pain]

That's.

[Male Caller]

That's.

[T-Pain]

It's still. It's still that. It's still bur C.H. johnson.

[Male Caller]

He died.

[T-Pain]

Bur Johnson. Shout out Bur Johnson.

[Mike]

Man, I appreciate you coming on the pod.

[T-Pain]

Absolutely.

[Mike]

This has been crash dummies episode 12. Oh, no, it's 2112-112112-11211, 211. It peace type gang.