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Suzy has a lively conversation with JJ Martin, the American entrepreneur and designer who has taken Italy by storm.

Produced by Natasha Cowan @tashonfash

Edited by Tim Thornton @timwthornton

Music by @joergzuber

Graphics by Paul Wallis

To find Suzy's articles visit https://suzymenkes.com

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