What if the relationship between a lead pastor and worship pastor wasn’t tense, but collaborative?

In this breakout session from Creative Tides Summit Conference, Lane Greenleaf-Perez, a current lead pastor and former worship pastor, shares honest insight into one of the most important—and often misunderstood—relationships on a church staff. Lane is the lead pastor at @RedHillsChurchNewberg in Newberg, OR.

Drawing from experience on both sides of the role, he addresses the belief that the lead pastor is the enemy of creativity and why that mindset ultimately hurts both ministry and people. Instead, this conversation reframes the lead pastor–worship pastor relationship as a partnership built on trust, communication, and shared vision.

In this session, we talk about:

How to foster collaboration across staff matters, especially between lead pastors and worship leaders
How creativity can thrive under healthy leadership and structure
Navigating expectations from your lead pastor without resentment
How to have difficult or clarifying conversations with wisdom and humility
Building alignment instead of tension between preaching and worship
What lead pastors actually hope worship leaders understand

This breakout is especially helpful for:

Worship leaders feeling misunderstood or constrained
Creatives navigating leadership dynamics
Pastors and staff members wanting healthier collaboration
Anyone trying to lead with both excellence and unity

If you’ve ever struggled to communicate vision, felt tension around creativity, or wondered how to navigate expectations from leadership, this conversation offers practical language, perspective, and encouragement.

📍 Recorded live at Creative Tides Summit Conference

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