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The Sneaky Things Contributing To Cancer Under 30 | Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy, MD
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What is going on with the amount of people 30 or younger getting diagnosed with cancer right now?
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You guys aren't eating well. All of these young people are the canaries in the mine, screaming, saying something's wrong. Nobody gets a diagnosis of cancer or any other illness because there's one thing that happened. I think it is the perfect storm. The biggest difference in whether you got cancer or not was what you eat, your diet and lifestyle.
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What if everything we've been told about cancer, how we get it and how we treat it is not the full picture? What if chemo isn't the only option? Dr. Leigh Erin Kenneally is a prominent leader in the integrative and functional medicine medical field of cancer. She is named one of the top 50 functional and integrative doctors in the country, taking the best of all sciences, including conventional homeopathic, Eastern medicine and modern medicine into her practice to find a precise cancer treatment plan for each individual patient. She's the medical director of two unique clinics in Orange County, California that are just spectacular, the Cancer center for Healing and center for New Medicine. The combined clinics have become the largest integrative medical clinic in North America and are visited by patients from all over the world. With 65,000 patients and growing, the center for New Medicine focuses on a precise, personalized approach to health care that includes prevention, early detection of cancer and in internal medicine along with yearly physicals, autoimmune disease, natural hormone replacement, chronic issues and everyone's favorite aesthetics. Watch this episode in high definition as a fully produced multi camera shot show on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel. Support our work healing a sick culture by becoming a financial supporter of the show so we can film episodes like this in person. There's a link in the description to make a tax deductible donation one time or regularly and a free way that you can help the show weekly is by leaving a 5 star review sharing anything from why you love love CA in general or how you discovered us. You may know this guest as my friend Taylor Duke's brain cancer doctor. She helped Taylor with a full recovery today on Culture Apothecary, integrative cancer leader, founder of the Cancer center for Healing and the author of the cancer revolution, Dr. Lee Aaron Kenneally. Would you say that the main priority of the standard cancer care that we know today is trying to make money or heal people?
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I think, I think most doctors have a true intention of healing people and I think most doctors who get into medicine are truly trying to help and heal people. But we have a system today that Basically is offering a patient a drug, a surgery, or both. We diagnose patients and doctors get reimbursed based upon diagnosis. And so the more diagnosis, the better your insurance claim is to get paid. So if you only had one diagnosis, you know, you're probably not going to get paid as much. So the more comprehensive diagnosis plan, the better the reimbursement. Every doctor's goal really should be to de diagnose a patient, take away their diagnosis. So when a patient comes in, no matter what age or how old they are, some people come in for human optimization and just really, I want to be the healthiest version that I can be. Unfortunately, that is too small of amount of people because most people come in until they have something serious going on, or they might have a pain, or they might have, you know, urinary problems, bleeding problems and so forth. But the majority of people come in because they have something going on. You know, every business has to make money, right? And the doctors have to be paid, the bills have to be paid. But I always believe that your passion should be how do you help people? And money will come.
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What is actually causing cancer? Genetics or environment?
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There's so many factors involved. All right? I always tell people nobody gets a diagnosis of cancer or any other illness because there's one thing that happened, okay? I think it is the perfect storm. You always have to look at someone's life. So when I see someone, I look at their entire life, okay? So if they're 50 years of age, I go back to in utero to where they are 50. They did a study of 44,000 identical twins. And the biggest difference in whether you got cancer or not was what you eat, your diet and lifestyle. So the way people function today, unfortunately, the air's polluted, the water's polluted, the food is polluted. People are more stressed, I believe, than ever. I think that they're sedentary, they sit a lot. Whereas long time ago people moved and. But everything is mechanical and roboticized then. Alcohol and smoking. We know that smoking contributes a lot to cancer also. But there are people who smoke who never get cancer, right? And there's people who drink alcohol, never get cancer. I mean, meaning they live a very long life. But I think that if you look at everything, if you look at the way we're living today, it's not, you know, the proper way to create health, all right? And disease now has become so normalized and so health needs to be our public health's number one priority. It needs to be your number one Priority. It needs to be everyone's family. Because if you don't have health, you have nothing. Okay. And you can't function. You can't be a good family member, you can't be a community member, you can't be a good employee, you can't be anything.
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It's a very good point you're bringing up because I just heard the statistics. 77% of young people today are not able to meet the requirements for the military in the United States because we are all so unhealthy physically. Just, just not equipped. That is a national security crisis right there. So what are the three types of cancer that you're seeing people be diagnosed with the most right now?
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Well, the number one cancers are breast, prostate, colon and lung. Okay, those are the top. But like in the last year or so, the brain cancers are just increasing.
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Yes, tell me about that.
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So brain cancer, I mean, you never saw a patient 30 years ago with BR cancer? Cancer is the perfect storm, okay. Of stress, toxicity, bugs, viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites, heavy metals. I think brain is very influenced by electromagnetic fields. Electromagnetic fields really have only come into existence probably the last 30 years. Yes, they were before that, but rarely. But now with everyone having a phone, an iPad, a computer, and cell towers and satellites and all of these electrical input. And it's something that I have been researching, studying for a long time because one of my children, that's what she did, her 8th grade science experiment is how electromagnetic fields affect a living substance. And so it's something that I have, it's a pet peeve of mine for a very, very long time. And I think it's now it's just exploded because people don't realize that we are a bio spiritual, bio intellectual, bio emotional, biophysical, biochemical and bioenergetic being. So energy is part of our physiology. So like when you do an ekg, you're looking at the elect electrical activity of the heart. If you're looking at the brain with an eeg, you know it's electrical activity of the brain. And then when you look at the nervous system and you're doing muscle conduction studies, you, nerve conduction studies, you look at the electrical activity of that system. So with your brain being extremely electrical, your heart is too. There's a great book called the invisible rainbow, and he chronicles the invention of electricity and what's happened and illness.
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Interesting. Are you making sure that you try not to talk on your phone when it's not on speaker, like always talking on speaker?
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Always.
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Do you turn your wi fi off? At night?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So at night I turn off the electricity to my bedroom. Okay. Ooh, right.
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Candles only.
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I have a switch. No, I have a switch. I don't. I don't need light. Okay. Really? And I have a. It's a metal filament canopy that fits over my bed.
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Okay, you're going all in. You're going all in.
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So, and then I try to ground or I use a device called biomodulator. That is a device that was developed by an ophthalmologist, Dr. Tennant. And Dr. Tennant was doing surgery, and one of his patients had a viral infection, and it got spattered into his eyes and went to his brain, and he developed encephalitis. And so, of course, he traveled the world to figure out, you know, how to fix himself. And they basically said, there's really nothing we can do. So he slept 18 hours a day and three hours a day. Research and studied how do I fix myself? And found that all the cells like I was talking about earlier, have energy. And so he created this device called the biomodulator. So in our office, we check the voltage or energy of our patients using something called the meridian energy assessment device. So we check your overall energy because every cell emits.0,7 millivolts of energy. And if you have 50 trillion cells, you have 3 billion Vol. So it is very important for healing that you have energy. Right. And energy is really how your body function every day. And you know, the definition of death is the eeg. There is no energy. Right.
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And how do you increase the good energy to fight things like cancer?
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Right. So because every disease is related to your voltage being low. So what robs your voltage is stress, toxins, heavy metals, bugs, viruses, bacteria, fungi, and parasites. And I would say probably most people have some burden of that. Okay.
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How often do you do a parasite cleanse? Personally, very regularly. Like, what does that mean monthly? Every day, Twice a year?
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Well, I personally take something every day to fight parasites, and then I'll do a medication regime every three months.
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Okay.
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You know, in India, they deworm their population every six months.
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What do you think of paragard?
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Paragard's okay. There's different things out there. One of the things is the ingredient called mimosa pudica. And I've used that very successfully. So in most of my patients, I'll use that as a first line treatment. But sometimes you have to do medications. So most of the parasite medications have been around for a very long time. For example, ivermectin, is about a 65 year old drug, Fenbendazole, albendazole, There is praziquantel. So usually what I do is I energy evaluate each person to see what they may need. All bugs live off of dead decaying matter. So you've got to cleanse your body in order to get rid of the bug. So everything is about the terrain, right? The terrain are the garden of the cell. Because everything boils down to how each cell is functioning and working for you and protecting you. So that cell, every day, every second of every day is affected by every single thing that you do, every decision you make. Every day is a health care decision. Because we're living in times. If you look at what's going on today, autism is the highest rate it's ever been in the history of man. In California it's 1 in 22. Some statistics in other states it's like 1 in 36. Our elementary kids, 60% have one or more chronic illnesses.
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It's shocking.
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Teenagers have the highest rate of anxiety, depression and suicide. About 20% are on an antidepressant. And 30 year olds are being diagnosed with cancer.
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Yes.
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All of these young people are the canaries in the mine, screaming, saying something's wrong.
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What is going on with the amount of people 30 or younger getting diagnosed with cancer right now? Is it shocking to you, the number of people?
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Well, it's absolutely shocking. Cancer has exploded in the last 30 years, all right. And in young people it's an 80% increase. And now they say about 40% of the population will get cancer. And some estimates I've read it's one in two people, like one in two men and one in three women. But we know it's increasing and it's increasing more in every age group.
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What do you attribute to that?
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In my office, I say now I see more young people than I do older people, I'd say probably at least 50%, maybe even a little more are 20s, 30, early 40s.
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Wow.
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Yeah. So yesterday I had a consult with a girl that I've been seeing 26 years old with a very, very aggressive form of breast cancer. And how what makes her cancer aggressive? Is there something called the Ki67? So when they do pathology testing, when they do a biopsy, they look at the proliferation rate, which is called the Ki67. So the higher the Ki67 is, the more rapidly dividing it is and the more aggressive. So an ideal ki67 is less than 10%. Well, hers was 96%.
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Oh my gosh.
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So she was trying to do it naturally and she had seen a physician before me to treat it naturally. And so when she came to my office, I said to her, a low dose chemotherapy approach for you is probably not going to be the best route. I said, you need a very aggressive chemotherapy regime along with many other things which she was completely on board for because she really wanted to do it naturally.
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Yeah, that's what I think is interesting about you, is that you are not opposed to modern medicine, but you also like herbal medicine, Chinese medicine, you know, all these other different natural functional medicine approaches. So you look at the individual patient at your cancer clinic and you're like, okay, like this girl. We need a hybrid of both, you know, really hardcore chemotherapy, but also I'm going to get you into some other types of treatments.
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Right. I always try to do a non harmful approach for any medical diagnosis because Hippocrates says first do no harm.
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Right.
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And so doctors need to take that to heart and say, how am I helping this patient? Or how am I harming this patient? Okay. Because let's face it, conventional medicine, it's just conventional medicine. It's medicines, they're all medications are toxins. Then surgery, which may be necessary, okay? But it's an injurious immunosuppressive process. So we should be preparing every patient for the surgery. So I prepare all of my patients for a surgery, okay? I don't just go, okay, just go do it. For example, I had an 86 year old come in and she is the mother of one of my patients and she's going to have a hip surgery. Well, she's 86. So what did I do? I told her how to program her mind about, it's going to be the most amazing surgery. I said, and everyone who's involved in your surgery, you're going to tell them before the surgery that this is going to be the best hip replacement surgery you'll ever have done because the energy of all these people affects you. So then I told her, we're going to do IV vitamin C and we're going to do hyperbaric before and after the procedure. She had her nutritional status and everything she's doing. She's very good about that. So I wasn't concerned about that. But that's what we should be doing is a personalized, preventive, precise approach to every single patient instead of this. Okay, here's the algorithm for you. It was interesting. I had a patient come in, another young patient, 32 years old, who has a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor. So there is pancreatic adenocarcinoma and then the neuroendocrine. So it's. It has a nervous system and a hormonal component to it. So fortunately for her, the doctor said we could do surgery, but I think we should watch and wait. And the reason how he made the decision is he looked at the pathology, and the pathology was it was not an aggressive cancer. And when you go in and dive in and do surgery on the pancreas, you have lots of risk and complications that may occur. I thought it was so good that the doctor said, you know, let's just watch it for the next six months. So she decided to come and see me. And I said, you should be so happy that the doctor didn't want to go in and invade your fingers. Because he said, oh, you may be on medications for life. You know, it may not even work, et cetera, et cetera. So she told me that she works and manages hospitalists at different hospitals. And she told me that every doctor has the same protocol. So if you go in for congestive heart failure, you get this. And if you have this, you know, heart attack, you get this. So there's no understanding why, where, when, and how you got there. I will tell you. In the United States, the emergency rooms are probably the best in the world. And those are for people who fall off a ladder, have a car accident, are having possibly a heart attack, something that needs emergency attention. All right? But for things that can be handled by an urgent care, or more importantly, your primary care doctor, that's your go to, okay? Because today's world, there's too many ERs that are overwhelmed and they can't take care of what they need to take care of. And ER doctors are, you know, incredibly overwhelmed today.
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It's interesting to me, you saying that that patient told you, you know, every doctor has the same thing to say to every patient, no matter what's going on. That was the most frustrating thing about my dad in his situation, which I kind of told you before you came, is that he's had two heart attacks. He's got type 2 diabetes now he's got a brain tumor, he's got glioblastoma. So when he was dealing with all of this, I'm like, well, what are they saying about, you know, thinking about this tumor also with all the heart stuff going on? Well, nothing. They're not saying anything. They're not heart doctors. I'm like, oh, right. Because I know there is some. There's got to Be some link here or something that we need to be doing to treat this thing. To treat this thing?
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Yeah. It's all interconnected. Your cells work in community to take care of you. Okay. So if you have cancer, it's a symptom of a whole body problem. So I tell all of my doctors, you need to be an endocrinologist, an infectious disease person, a psychiatrist, a neurologist. You need to be covering all the disciplines. Why? Because when you look at a patient I need to look at, make sure that every system is working for you. I had a breast surgeon coming in to visit with one of my patients and he, he was the one that developed the first bilateral nipple sparing mastectomy to make, to preserve the nipples. And so fortunately he's like, oh my gosh, I have never seen a clinic that is giving patients the kind of care that you're giving. And so I said, tim, I'm so impressed that you're open to this.
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Yes.
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Because a lot of doctors are like, oh, no, that doesn't work. Don't waste your time on why do they do that?
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Why do they say that? Supplements, herbs, you know, getting these different vitamins, doing these hormone checks, all of this. Why do they think like, ah, that's useless, don't do it.
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Well, I think because our, the training is here, you have a diagnosis, a problem, and here is the drug for it. Okay. And that's how they're trained. When I went to, to training, it was, I was dealing. I worked at a county hospital. It was crises management every day, right. So I didn't learn how to take care of a patient who just is day to day living and they need a checkup. We've lost the art of the physical exam. We've lost the art of the connection to the patient and understanding who they are, what they are, and how their life is really working for them or not working for them. I had a patient yesterday that told me like, well, no one's even touched me. And I'm like, what? Like, how is that possible that you have cancer and no one's ever examined them. I'm like, I don't know how that works. Okay? And so, so. But I hear that frequently because I always ask the patient to disrobe because I can't examine them unless they get undressed, right. And I do a head to toe exam from looking at their hair, their nails, their skin, looking for Frank's crease in their ear, looking at their tongue, the integrity of their tongue, listening to their heart and lungs. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Right. Looking at their scars of their body, that's another thing that blocks voltage.
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Ooh, the scars?
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Yeah. Scars and tattoos both block voltage.
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Are you pro or anti tattoo?
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I grew up long time ago. Okay. And so my mother would threaten us if, like, you would never, ever touch your body. And so I do know that 40% of the population today gets tattoos. Tattoos have toxicity. All right. I know they're supposedly natural tattoos. I don't know, because it's not something that I research and study. But tattoos have, you know, heavy metals. But the biggest thing they do is they block the acupuncture meridians.
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I have been radicalized on. I think tattoos are really bad for you.
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If you take the person with tattoos today, they probably got it when they were 18 and their friend was getting it or someone has in a situation that somebody was affected in their life with alcoholism and if, you know, the AA prayer and they had it. Like, one of my staff has it tattooed on his arm, and he told me the whole story. So it was a significant thing.
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Well, of course, yeah. It might have meaning.
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I remember reading one of my medical journals like that when that patient does a PET scan, that tattoo appeared like it had, you know, cancer, where probably didn't, because it lit up. And I was like, oh, my gosh. This is very interesting. So I think tattoos, people can do other things to create meaning and significance in their life. Because I think tattoos overall are not healthy for the body and for just not only, like, the chemical aspect of it, but also the bioenergetic aspect of it.
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If somebody has a lot of tattoos and they're also experiencing heavy metal toxicity in their body, and they know that that's the case, does removing the tattoo help or once it's just. It doesn't even matter. Like, you're just dealing with it at that point.
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Well, I know people can, you know, remove tattoos. They have very effective ways now of, you know, it depends if you have whole body. No, that's going to be very difficult.
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But it could help.
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It would probably help, but heavy metals are part of our life today. So the most common heavy metals are mercury, lead, cadmium, aluminum. Now, I do a heavy metal panel on my patients. I like to do something called the provocative testing of heavy metals. So you give something that causes the release of them. And so in the testing, it will show, like, like I said, mercury, cadmium, aluminum. But one of the things that I've seen change over the years is uranium that they use in talk and Nuclear power plants. And uranium. The problem with uranium, it has, you know, 33 million years of half life. Lead has a half life of over 10 years. So these heavy metals can be stored in your body. But I believe that everyone, probably every day today should be taking something to remove heavy metals on a daily basis. On a daily basis. From what I see, my twins are 30, and when they were 6 years old, I did a blood test that looked for the intracellular concentration of heavy metals. Intracellular means inside the cell. It was called a red blood cell mineral test. And I was appalled at six, the heavy metals they had. Okay. I've been doing this for a long time. And now heavy metals are ubiquitous in the environment. They tested 20 baby formulas. Now, you know how much regulations to get a baby formula registered that a baby can take, right? Because they're replacing, you know, breast milk for a formula. So that means it has to have high regulations. Right. Every single formula tested had heavy metals.
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Wow.
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Every baby food, organic and non organic, had heavy metals.
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So what is your suggestion? Make your own baby food? Have baby eat what you're eating, basically.
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Right.
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I would assume. And then what do you like? Raw milk, homemade formula?
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I use goat milk after a year because of the absorption and ease on the baby and it's easily digestible. It's a problem that we have. You could, you should try to do everything as good as you can at home, right? If you can. Obviously, you know, sometimes it's impossible. Sometimes, you know, people need something quick. But today's world, there are places where you can get organic Mexican food, for example, okay? There are places that are conscientious about what they're, you know, put what you're putting in your body. And I think if we could revolutionize things and really try to create this contagious revolution of creating health for humanity and making people so mindful and aware. Industry, government has allowed everything to just be okay. And we all have to take a stand that this isn't okay. You have to become like a forensic scientist and look at your water. Okay? Tap water is all contaminated, okay? There is chemotherapy in the water. There's drugs in the water. Birth control, there's birth control. There's everything in the water. So, like, for example, you must use something to purify water. I don't care what you get, but get something to, you know, purify your water, okay? Then your food, you know, even organic foods, right, can have problems because there's an organic farm. And then next door, you know, maybe 50 miles away is a Non organic.
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Right.
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And we have the insecticides and pesticides that are being sprayed on these foods. Okay. And they're ubiquitous everywhere. So there's nothing pure today, right? There just isn't. So that's why you have to create your counter protective universe to protect yourself. And I say today, self care is the new health care. So really? Really, this, you know, interestingly enough, a lot of this stuff has been around for a very long time. Okay. I don't feel like it's. I'm doing anything new, even though everyone thinks it's new, but it's not new. It was interesting. On the way here, my Uber driver, he was like asking me what I do. And so I said, I'm a functional, integrative medical doctor. And he goes, oh, that's a lot of words. And I said, well, I said he. I said, no, what I do is when you come in, I try not to use drugs. He goes, oh, that's so good. And so I said, where are you from? And he said, I'm from Kenya. And I said, oh, in Kenya, they probably use all natural things. He says, yes, they all use. He goes, we're nomads. We live with the animals. We live off the earth. It's like I said, it's nothing new. I mean, if you think about it, think about it. There's 8 billion people in the world. United States is 5% of the world. We use 70% of the world drugs. So that means all those other populations are doing nothing, are using natural things.
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Wow, that is enlightening right there.
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Yes. We all should be saying, this isn't okay. We need to be in public outrage about the standards that we are implementing.
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Today I use two different things. One, people can use chlorella. Chlorella is an algae that removes heavy metals. And I usually give that to all of my pregnant patients because it's nutritional. Plus it has chelating it has a detoxifying nature to it. The other thing that I use is called cardio nano detox because a lot of the heavy metals are affect the endothelial lining of the blood vessels. Okay. And so that's why I call it cardio nanodetox. And then the other thing that I use is something called hmd. HMD is homeopathic metal detox. It's a combination of cilantro and chlorella and it's very easy. So those are the things. But the detox baths and sauna also are another layer of just overall detox, including heavy metals.
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Here's what I don't understand. Cancer used to be thought of as an old person's disease.
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That's correct.
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But it's exploding with people my age. So what is it about my age group you think that is causing this rise in cancer?
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I think exposure to toxicity. All right. I think, I think stress. I think we have a different kind of stress today because I've evaluated it. I didn't have a stress free life. Okay. But I find that 30 year olds to navigate life, I think it's very cumbersome. I really think it's a lot. Even though we had a lot. I mean I think about, I was in, after finishing medical school, training, doing everything myself, driving myself from Texas to Chicago for medical school. I mean, you know, that's just what you did. Okay? But today I think there's just a different kind of stress. Also you guys aren't eating well. All right? Let's face it, it's the food. Like long time ago, people didn't have the availability of all the toxic food we have today. I'm not saying that when I was little there wasn't bad food. I happened to grow up where my mother was a fanatic about nursing us for a year. She made all of our baby food and I ate sauerkraut, raw milk, liver, onions. I ate off the land. We had a, my parent, my grandparents had a farm. We went and got a cow, they butchered it and we brought it home. Okay? So I. All the things that people like to do today, that's what I, that's how I grew up. But I know my friends didn't, you know, we had baloney and miracle web. But what did people do? The most common thing young people did a long time ago is they were outside all the time playing and being with nature. Now we have your inside, no vitamin D. You're sitting down and you're on your phone and you're looking for the easiest thing to get food. Okay. And then you're not even aware of health. We should be teaching health from birth. They should have community groups of mothers helping women, you know, have the best version of their kids possible. Today, with what we know, a child should be a genius Navy Seal.
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A
Have you noticed a common thread with your young cancer patients in vaping?
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B
I do have a patient who's 30, he's from Wyoming. He's 30 something years old, vaped for nine years and has stage four lung cancer to his brain. So I have seen that, but I don't see most of the young patients that I'm seeing aren't vaping or smoking.
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A
What about birth control?
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Birth control is very common in most.
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A
Young people that young women who are getting diagnosed with cancer have a history of birth control.
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B
Right. I, they, I always ask them, especially if it's breast cancer, because, you know, people aren't going to want to hear this, but birth control pills are synthetic hormones, okay? They're a synthetic estrogen and they're a synthetic progesterone. Yes, there's progesterone only pills. But think about what you're doing when you take a birth control pill. And I took birth control pills, so. So did I. I took it because my mother took a drug when she was pregnant with me, and I never had menstrual cycles. So when I was in medical school, I went to the doctor and the doctor said, oh, we'll just regulate you with birth control pills, okay? And so we treat lots of conditions, you know, with birth control pills. We treat acne, irregular bleeding, and ovulatory cycles. I mean, we're treating conditions instead of saying, let's try to create a normal physiological cycle for you, right? And why is this happening? And when women are young, they're going to have a regular menstrual cycle, sometimes till their twenties. So it's not like the end of the world if they have, have irregular menstrual cycles. But I've never had two menstrual cycles in a row in my life because of the drug my mother took when she was pregnant with me. So I learned how to naturally regulate my cycles, meaning create a cycle. Okay? But birth control pills, they're shutting down the hypothalamic pituitary axis. All right? So we have something called the hypothalamus. I call it the brain's brain. It sends a message to your pituitary to make hormones for the body, your thyroid, releasing prolactin, releasing follicle, stimulating, et Cetera, et cetera. Okay, so you're turning off that. All right, so if I have a 21 year old who comes to see me and they want birth control pills, I will say, okay, I'm going to give you that. But you have to take one month off a year. You need to take these nutritional supplements and you've got to take care of your gut because it does, you know, alter the microbiome. So because a 21 year old, let's face it, we've all been 21, right. And so we know that that can be a precarious time. But I will give them protective things to take care of themselves. And then I say to allow your body to have its rhythm back, I need you one month a year to take off.
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A
Can you tell us what your supplements are that you recommend for somebody who is on birth control?
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Well, I would do a food based multi. So there's synthetic vitamins and then there's natural vitamins. So a food based multivitamin. Most people have one or more nutritional deficiencies. All right, so a food based multi, an oil, you can eat the oils, you know, like using butter, coconut oil, olive oil or avocados. And then a vitamin D would probably, I would say about 80% of the cancer patients are deficient in vitamin D. The only people who come insufficient are people who are taking it. And I would say a lot of people today, at least in my patient population, know that we need to take.
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A
Vitamin D. Regular vitamin D or vitamin D, D3. Okay, D3K2 or just D3?
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B
D3K2. I like about 5,000 is the average dose. 5,000 international units would be the average dose. What I'm seeing so much of is fatty liver. So fatty liver was really not that common. And I do ultrasound in my office. So about five years ago, I started seeing an outrageous increase in fatty liver. And I'm like, wow, this person doesn't drink, they're skinny. I'm like, how can they have fatty liver?
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A
It has to be some specific type.
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Of food that's causing it. No, it's the environment. There's so many toxins going through our liver that it just gets overwhelmed with what we do. So I think taking a liver support is a good idea because of what I'm seeing. So they have found fatty liver in elementary kids. Okay, so 11% in elementary kids. Okay, they haven't. These are 10 and 11 year olds. So the problem with fatty liver is what it leads to cirrhosis. We can fix fatty liver nutritionally with making changes and fasting and doing liver cleanses. But cirrhosis is a condition that there are no medications. And even natural, it's very difficult.
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A
Okay, so toxins overloading your liver, does that mean, like, things in your environment like the candles that you're lighting, the body wash that you're using, the cleaning products, or.
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B
No, just think about every single thing you do in your life.
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A
Well, do.
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B
Do a. Do a conscious mindfulness of everything you do, okay, from the time you wake up to the time you go to bed. Think about everything that you're doing, okay, from the water you're using, okay? Is it in plastic? Eliminate plastic out of your life. We do something called the environmental pollutant panel, and that checks for phthalates, which is probably the number one pollutant we see. So that's plastics. We eat about a credit card a week in plastics. Then we check that, environmental checks. Glyphosate. So that is one big thing that I would say is common in young people that didn't exist long time ago is glyphosate, which is the Monsanto weed killer. And so that's in many. Many. I would say that's in almost everybody, probably 95% of the population. It's now related to, you know, many cancers. Colon cancer, pancreatic. I mean, lymphoma was the first. So that was not. Not something used a long time ago. And then I look for mold, I look for heavy metals. In that environmental pollutant panel, I always say, we're living in the great poisoning. And people say, oh, well, no, that's not true. I'm like, well, no, I have the blood work and I have the urine test and all the testing that shows this, you know, this evidence of. Of toxicity. And I was just. It's interesting, you know, people don't think about their toilet paper.
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A
Girl, I am so with you. A few months ago, I had a sponsor on this show, like, totally all natural toilet paper. People were like, I don't know about this. This seems a little wackadoo, Alex. I'm like, guys, it's serious. When you say the moment you wake up, everything that's touching your body, everything that's going into your body, being absorbed by your body.
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B
Like, think about your shower water, okay? That's tap water. So you have to have a shower filter. They sell those at Home Depot. So it's. You know, they're $30. So unfortunately, this is the way you have to live. You have to live defensively. And you also need to say what is really Happening because no one is letting us know. Okay. I was just reading about tampons and heavy metal. Okay, you probably have read that too. And now the tissues that have all the chemicals, I mean, so like. Like everything we're using, unfortunately, is laden with potential toxicity.
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Yes.
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B
And so we can't keep up with it all.
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A
It'd be impossible. You can't eliminate them all.
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B
Everybody can do a detox bow. So I give all my patients a detox bath of Epsom salts, baking soda, and clay. Now, some of my patients have sauna. So sauna has been around for a very long time. And we've had an infrared sauna in our clinic for probably 25, 30 years. So I encourage people to make that investment in their health, is you can get a portable sauna because you can get a good price on portable sauna or the other, you know, like the little box saunas. But that's probably one of the greatest investments you can make in your health. But people might not always have room. So I said at least do the detox baths every day.
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A
Higher Dose is a company who doesn't sponsor the show, but I would freaking love it if they did. They have, like, a little infrared sauna blanket thing. So anyone has the room for that?
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B
Yeah, but I don't think it works as well.
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A
Okay.
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B
Okay. As doing an infrared sauna and sweating.
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A
Okay.
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So, yeah, I don't think that is as I know exactly what you're talking about, but I think getting in an infrared sauna or even a sauna, any kind of sauna, because the Finnish studies were done on a dry sauna. So any kind of sweating, because you have heat shock proteins in your body. 27, 72, and 90. Heat shock proteins kill cancer and kill viruses. So then they detoxify you. Plus it increases your circulation, plus it's protective against emf. I mean, so many things. So I've had the same sauna for 20 years. They haven't broken down or anything.
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A
What are the pros and cons to chemo and radiation, which is commonly what cancer patients are told they should do.
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B
That they're not being told chemotherapy may be necessary. All right. Because if a patient has tumor burden, let's just take a female that may have breast cancer. She has a lump, and it's gone to her lymph glands. So if a patient just has a lump, a lot of times you can do a lumpectomy and not need chemotherapy. In fact, there's a test called the Oncotype DX and the mammoprint that will tell you if chemotherapy is going to be beneficial. And actually 70 plus percent percent of breast cancer patients, chemotherapy will not even be effective. But let's say you have a patient who has stage four breast cancer and you're, whatever age you are, you're going to agree to do chemotherapy. Because chemotherapy, unfortunately, you've got to shrink the tumor burden. Okay? Now I always tell every patient, never, never, never rely on one avenue of healing. Meaning that can't be your only way to get well. Right. Because why? Chemotherapy is very destructive to every system in the body, neurologically, endocrinologically, microbiome, immune system. There isn't any system that it doesn't affect. But we don't think about, in the conventional medical system about how do we protect our patients? We don't. We just don't think about that. And we just give things without like, okay, let's see how you're sleeping, the water you're drinking, the food you're eating, what is your stress and how are we going to protect you? So when I see a patient and they need chemotherapy, I have them do all these other things to protect themselves. So I give them something for their immune system. I give themselves something for acidity. I give them something for candida because, because 60, 70% of patients that have cancer have yeast Candida. And then I give them hydrogen water to drink every day because it's a very powerful antioxidant. Then I give them a very powerful liquid, vitamin, mineral drink. Because it's liquid, it's easier to take because they need comprehensive nutrition to handle the chemotherapy. Then I make sure that they don't develop neuropathy, a lot of them develop neuropathy. So I usually give the proper nutrients, nutrients for that. Then I give them something for their liver because all of this is going through your liver. So you got to take some kind of liver protection. And then I always give every patient vitamin C intravenously and or orally. And then I usually give them some detoxifying substance like zeolite or carbon 60 to take out the chemicals. So we do in our clinic something called fractionated low dose chemo, so that is only 10% dose. Cancer cells have something called insulin, like growth factors on their cells. So that means they like sugar. So we prime the cells with insulin, we give you insulin, and when we get to the therapeutic moment, which is a sugar level of about 40, we then intravenously deliver the chemotherapy because they're going to selectively take up the chemotherapy, presuming the normal cells.
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A
I Think there's a lot of confusion because people say, you know, an anti cancer diet, it's carnivore or it's plant based, it's, you know, only green leaves. So what would you say the truth is?
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B
Well, I would say first of all, you have to look at the patient's blood work to see. So for example, patients anemic. Well, you're not going to say, go on a diet that has no iron in it. And where do you get iron from? From, from liver and meat. Okay. And then if they have elevated blood sugar, they're pre diabetic, they're eating refined sugars, they're re eating, you know, cookies, pies, cakes, all those kinds of things. But there's natural sugar in fruit, which is very good for you, and there's natural sugar in vegetables. So that is very good for you. It's just the, the concoctions that we've created today. You can make a chocolate chip cookie healthy.
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A
Okay, that's right. But ice cream even.
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B
Right. But if you look at people's sugars levels, so I look at their hemoglobin A1C and their insulin levels and their fasting sugar levels, so your fasting sugar should be about 85. Your hemoglobin A1C, which is a reflection of your sugar over 90 days, which is actually an aging marker. It's called protein glycation, protein misfolding in your body. So I always use the analogy, it's like in inside wrinkles. And everyone gets that Pre diabetes is 5.7. All right, so but we know that you already have damage going over 5.2. So kind of like my upper limb and of normal is 5.4. So that means I know I need to change the eating patterns of the patient. So most people, for example, eat just carbohydrates in their meal. So when you eat, eat just carbohydrates in their meal. Carbohydrates are sugar, Right?
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A
Right.
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You cause the pancreas to make insulin, then insulin brings the sugar down, and then it tells your body you're starving and then you put on weight. So when you eat a meal, think about, you want about a third fat, a third protein, and a third favorable carbohydrate. So what is favorable carbohydrate? Fruits and vegetables. But most people don't think about how their body metabolically works because they've never been taught that. But this is how your body metabolically works better.
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A
Okay, so when I'm making dinner for me, and I'm just like a Single girly, doing it, you know, by myself here. So I will make some sort of meat. So I'll just cook steak for example, and then asparagus and that's my whole meal. Is that good enough?
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B
Yeah. So what fat are you using? So you need some butter.
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A
So I cook the steak in, in beef tallo usually.
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B
Okay, perfect. Okay, that's like a perfect meal. Now you could add like a half of a potato or a half of a sweet potato. You could add that with a little butter.
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A
Okay.
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B
And it's funny when you eat like that, you're full.
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A
Yes. Yeah, I always explain that. I don't, I don't do a lot of snacking cuz I don't feel you're.
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B
Not hungry because you've stabilized your sugar, right. So when you, when your pancreas isn't in a roller coaster with insulin production, you are not hungry. And so that's what people don't understand because they're hungry. So for example, if you wake up and eat a bagel, okay, the insulin is going to go high and then crash and then you're hungry.
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A
So what do you eat for breakfast?
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B
So I usually use an organic bread and it's about, it's about 80 calories and it's, you know, there's no chemicals and thing. And I cook that in butter with two eggs and I have that almost every morning. And that satisfies me because I've tried all kinds of breakfasts. I've tried oatmeal with protein and a.
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A
Fat, by the way, oatmeal, one of the number one foods saturated with glyphosate. It's oatmeal and it's chickpeas, which I didn't know till recently. So I'm like avoiding chickpeas like the plague.
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B
Yes, that's good. But so I find that holds me. I'm not hungry, I'm satisfied and I feel good. So but like people can do eggs and avocado and sliced tomatoes and that's like you're going to be, feel very, very satisfied. Now not everybody can eat eggs. So you have to have some alternatives. One of them, right. So that would be you would do some kind of other protein, maybe like turkey sausage or turkey, maybe some other kind of protein like lamb.
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A
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B
I do know that most patients, when they come in to see me in one to two weeks, they feel dramatically better. Okay. I have patients with stage 4 cancer who come to see me and they come in in a cane because they've got cancer in their bones. And then after a couple weeks of treatment, they're without the cane or without their oxygen and things. Because everything we do is to add energy or voltage to the body. All right? Then we do special IVs, intravenous vitamin C and curcumin and mistletoe and all these other things that we do that are non drug approaches. Now, as I said earlier, sometimes we have to do chemotherapy. And I will tell the patient, no, we need to do chemotherapy. Whether you do conventional or do the fractionated low dose. I'm going to support you through this process. We live in our subconscious, 95% in our subconscious. So there's a book called your body keeps score and you may have read it. So your body has been keeping score from in utero to now. And you think the way you think because of all the inputs. It could be inputs from mom, dad, grandparent, aunt, uncle, friend, everything, right? And so we're all affected by one another. That's why we should always be declaring victory in love on every single person that we meet. Because there's life and death in the power of the tongue. Yes, you become what you think about most of the time. So that's why we give our patience patients, every single patient, a list of healing affirmations that they say to themselves, and I have them do that as many times a day because I can't change their thinking that fast. Yes, we do emotional work on every single person. I demand that they get emotional work. So we use something called Evox Vox is the Latin word for voice. And so the patient starts talking. Their brain is imprinted on their, on the computer and it advises the practitioner what they need to work on. And so they use music and vibrations and talk to transform that unfavorable frequency to a favorable frequency in your body. Because life is going to have curve balls and detours. It's going to have it, okay, you are going to be confronted with stress on a regular basis. It is part of life. Life. And then you're going to have very extenuating circumstances. So you have to say, okay, I can only control the things I can control.
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Yes.
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And we all have to learn how to do that. If you really? Do a clinical study. Let's say you, you're going to do a double blind clinical trial on something, anything, a drug or something natural. You're coming in and I'm going to say, okay, you're going to take this pill and then you're going to tell me in a week or month, whatever, how long, you know, what it did and how, you know, you go through the whole thing and it either fixed it or it didn't fix it. But what happened the other 23 hours and 55 minutes? What did you do? How did you sleep? What were you eating, drinking, et cetera, et cetera. So what were you exposed to? Were you exposed to mold? Were you exposed to more chemicals? Were you exposed to stress at work? I mean, are you going through a divorce? All this impacts your clinical trial. Yes, but they don't take into consideration all of that. But we need to take in the entire holistic being and everything that you're doing every single minute of every day, because everything matters.
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Absolutely.
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You know, we all want something easy, quick, fast. There is nothing easy, quick, fast to the miracle that you've been privileged to live in. If we treated our body and our human frame as a miracle, just think where we would be.
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A
How do you feel about these trendy MRI full body scans that they're doing? They're saying that they can, you know, detect things decades in advance. Like if you're likely to have Alzheimer's or something like that. Do you think that those are gimmicky, scammy, or like, legit?
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B
Well, I think an MRI can have benefit. And I'll tell you, I've had patients go get full body MRIs. Several of them. Several patients. And they found a brain tumor, a breast lump, maybe something on their kidney that maybe needed to be evaluated. And two girls I'm thinking about right now. Well, one girl had a brain and she would have never known, okay. Until it got big enough to cause a problem.
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A
Like a symptom.
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B
Yes. And then the other girl, it was so small. It was 7 millimeters. 7 millimeters this, you know, very tiny. And so I think it can be beneficial. But cancer just doesn't happen in your body, okay? You don't wake up, up and have a heart attack. You don't wake up and have autoimmune. You don't wake up and have cancer. You don't wake up with any disease overnight. You have so much opportunity to prevent. So the, the cure for any disease is prevention. Okay? And I would love everyone to be interested in prevention. When I have a patient that comes in and we're chatting about their life and they want to talk and chat, and they're just there. Prevention. Oh, my God. Gosh. The patient's happy, I'm happy, the staff is happy.
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A
You're saying years in advance, not only does your body give you warning signs that little slight things are off that could lead to things, but by taking the right protocol with what you're eating and. And, you know, physical activity and all, all of those different types of things can help delay or postpone entirely cancer, right?
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B
Well, from one cancer cell to tumor is 8 to 10 years in the body. So if something is in year five, you don't feel anything. Okay? So by the time you have a symptom, it could be small or very big. Okay? Meaning already gone somewhere. Right? Meaning it's already metastasized, which means it's traveled to a new home. Destination. Whatever you want to say. Okay, so a breast lump goes to the bone. Doctors today day do not know really how to prevent disease, okay? There are doctors that do. So they usually have gone through conventional training and something has happened to them. And then they realize, oh, what do I need to do to take care of myself? That's usually how conventional doctors are awakened. Okay? They've gone through something serious themselves. But doctors, if you don't have a personal interest, like a lot of people say, oh, I focus on Hashimoto. Oh, I fuck. You know, I focus on the gut. Oh, I focus. I don't do that. I focus on your entire system because everything is interconnected to everything else, right? And so my passion became, you know, long time ago, and, you know, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing if my mother wouldn't have taken that drug when she was pregnant with me. And my whole life changed. And then I have had this insatiable desire to protect people because of what happened to me. So it's something that I think you've just been planted with. I mean, it's been. It's my mission, you know, and I can't even. I can't even help myself.
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A
Tell us some of the clues that your body might be showing in your 20s or 30s for cancer. Yes.
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B
Okay. So one thing I would like to alert people is if you have a symptom of something thing, don't ignore it today. Now, I am not alarming anyone. I'm not instilling fear because I always listen to my patient's story. I go, so how did this happen? Okay, like, how did this come About. So the patients will tell me, like, oh, I went to the doctor and I had rectal bleeding. And he says, oh, you know, you're too young. You know, you have a hemorrhoid and then the rectal bleeding doesn't go away. And then they go to the doctor again and they're going, oh, you're stressed, you're too stressed. You had a baby. You shouldn't be. And this happened to one of my patients, you should be. You need to get proper rest and everything. So then she decided that she's going to go to another doctor. So she went to the next doctor and the doctor said, oh, bleeding, never a good sign. So let me get you going with you. Got to go see a gastroenterologist. Well, that took months. And anyway, now you know, she has stage four rectal cancer. All right? And she's 40 years old with two children. If you have a symptom, don't let the doctor say, oh, you're too young. Because I used to say from 0 to 40 you had a warranty, auntie. But now I can't say that.
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A
Wow.
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B
Because I have these 20 year olds with cancer. I mean, and more than I want to see. Okay, so if you have something like another example, this is kind of innocuous example. A girl had a lump on her knee and the doctor, first doctor said, oh, it's nothing.
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A
Just like a little cyst.
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B
Yeah, yeah, that's what he said. Just a little cyst. So then she goes to another doctor and she goes, he goes, you know, very high probability, it's nothing. And then she didn't like that answer. She goes, so she went to another doctor, she goes, look, I've been to this doctor, this doctor, you know, he goes, look, I can cut it out. And you know, he didn't even order an MRI or anything, just did it by X ray. And sure enough, it was sarcoma. And sarcoma is a tumor of muscle or. Or bone or both. Okay, so now she's 20, think 26 years old. Okay? So we can't discount what the patient is saying. You live with you 24 7. I don't know your body like you do. You know your body and you need to be in touch with what your body is communicating to you. And yes, it might be nothing. Nothing. But go and affirm that it's nothing. And don't let a person tell you, well, oh, it's, you know, it's no big deal. Verify it. That it's no big deal. Trust and verify. Right. And I tell people you can't guess that you're well, you must test. Not that you have to do thousands of tests. This is not that complicated. But you have to go to a physician who really understands, especially in oncology.
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A
I like that. Test, not guess.
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B
Right. You've got to go to a doctor who really knows the nuances of detecting cancer. Cancer. By the time you have a lump and bump on the MRI, well, that's 10 years old. We want to look for these clues before. So what are the clues? Checking your C reactive protein, Checking your sed rate, checking your vitamin D levels and checking your hemoglobin A1C levels. Now, another blood test I do is the cancer profile. It's a fasting blood and urine, and it looks at hcg. HCG is a malignancy marker. Phi tells if your body is an anaerobic metabolism. Anaerobic is without oxygen. Right. Otto Warburg got a Nobel Prize. That cancer is an acidity, low oxygen, anaerobic environment.
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A
My dad's dad passed away from glioblastoma way older than my dad. My dad. Dad's doctor said that my brother and I, we need to do some kind of test that will tell us if we're likely to get glioblastoma. What do you think?
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B
That's very interesting. Cancer is not a genetic. I would say 5%. You know, in the literature it says 3 to 10%, but I rarely see a patient who has a genetic cancer. Okay, now they have genetic testing that you can do. But. But if it happened in your father and then your grandfather, what were all the components of it? Okay, that's the thing. Because brain cancer, you wouldn't think of as genetic. All right. But there may be a genetic weakness.
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A
Okay.
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B
All right. So, you know, you can get your DNA tested to look at all the things that don't work as well on you. You. Okay. It's not a very expensive test to look at, like your weaknesses in your DNA and the things that you want to work on. But, for example, APOE gene. Two copies of it predispose you to Alzheimer's. But many people with a double copy never develop Alzheimer's. Why? Because everything is. How do you live every day? It's called epigenetics. EPI means on top of your genetics. So it's the influence of your genetics. So you really want to focus on your daily lifestyle and how you're living. We have a very serious emergency. 91 1, which I've been talking about for a long time, that we've got to transform the future of health and humanity.
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A
Yes. Mammograms, colonoscopies. Okay, what do you think about these two things that are all. We're always told, you got to get this. You got to get this at a certain age.
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B
Okay, well, mammograms don't really start. You're supposed to get one between 35 and 40. So mammograms are radiation. So. But we have new technology now. It's called QT Quantitative transmission, and it's FDA approved. It already has a CPT code, which is. Can be covered by insurance, but it's not like now conventionally done yet because it's brand new. So anything brand new can take years to get into operation.
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A
So you're saying it's out there, but it's like only a couple doctors off offices are going to have this. It's not going to be in every single hospital in every single small town?
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Not yet. Yeah, but there's centers opening up nationwide.
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A
Okay.
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B
Okay.
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So you would opt for that over a mammogram?
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B
Yes, I would opt for that because I've been doing thermography, which looks at blood supply in a woman's breast. So typically, women don't have vascularity in their breast. And so. So this was a tool that looks for blood supply. So blood supply, because cancers have something called angiogenesis, the ability to make blood vessels. Right. That's how they stay alive. They anchor down with blood supply, and that's how they get their nutrients. And so thermography I've used for years in combination with ultrasound and. And some patients, I will have them do a mammogram. A lot of the patients today don't want to do mammograms because they're afraid of the radiation. So I always am developing different ways that women can do. But now quantitative transmission, transmission testing, it's. It's 40 times the accuracy of an MRI. Very important in young women. Your breasts are dense, so you're going to miss 50% of the pathology on a mammogram that you have dense tissue. And most women have dense breast tissue until they're 40. They get less dense as we age. So the most effective testing we have today is the QT technology.
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A
See, people get mad about this mammogram thing because, you know, they themselves or a loved one, they're like, well, my loved one or I would never have known that I had cancer if I wouldn't have gotten that mammogram. I'm like, I understand that, but I'm I'm just, there's, there's other technology you don't have to. A mammogram isn't the only thing that would have told you you had is what you're saying.
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B
If you look at the report of mammography, it says, woman. The woman has breast tissue. So that's your first clue. Go order an ultrasound. Do you know how many women that. I see that it says that and the doctor didn't order an ultrasound? I never rely on one technology for anything. If someone says, oh, your mammogram is negative, that means you're fine. Yeah, look how many people come and see me three months later for breast cancer. Cancer. So I don't, I don't like to use one testing. Okay. First of all, for every 10,000 mammograms, we save one life. So it's not a really cost effective tool. I find that most women who have breast cancer feel it themselves.
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A
Yep. Doing their breast checks.
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Doing their breasted checks, or they just accidentally feel it. So, yes, I think that is a good tool. You know your breasts and any better than any doctor during your menstrual cycle, do in the shower, use soap and, you know, massage your breast and feel your breasts. And so you know the integrity and the anatomy of your breast.
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A
What's the deal with colonoscopies? Because now all of a sudden, I'm hearing all this stuff. They're good, they're bad, avoid them.
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B
Right. Well, first of all, they changed the colonoscopy recommendations from 50 years old to 45 years old. And the reason, reason they did that because there's a dramatic increase in colon cancer, even in 10 year olds. Whoa. Yes. There's been a 500% increase. What I usually recommend to my patients is to get a cologuard. And cologuard is a stool test that you can do at home. It is very accurate. It has a high specificity and sensitivity. And so my patients who've tested positive for cologuard, so they do the stool test and then the company sends me the report. I've had one of my employees, husband had a positive cologuard. So immediately what we did is we did the liquid biopsy and it came back negative. And we did all these testing and nothing really showed up. So he went to the surgeon and the surgeon said, said, this is a very large, you know, polyp. And he says, I need to remove a third of your colon. Well, they went in and removed a third of a colon, and it wasn't cancer.
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A
Oh, my Gosh, yes.
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B
So it is a very sensitive test.
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A
So if somebody is listening and they have a colonoscopy scheduled but they haven't gone yet, would you say cancel it, do this instead?
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B
Yes. And I'll tell you one. One out of 350, 50 people have complications from colonoscopy.
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A
My dad had his second heart attack after a colonoscopy.
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B
Every procedure is stressful, right? I mean, first of all, going to the doctor is very stressful.
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A
But this is one of those things when I say the doctors aren't asking questions about other parts of his body. If we know that people with a history of heart disease, colonoscopy is a bad idea, why was my dad offered a colonoscopy in the first place?
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B
Probably. I don't know his entire history, which we can talk about. But I always recommend the cola Guard first. I tell people it's non invasive. Your insurance pays for it. This is a phenomenal screening tool. I'll tell you a story. I had a lady come in. She was 51, from England. She lives here in the United States, but her mom was dying of stage four colon cancer. She said, Dr. Gill, I'm coming here for prevention, which is always a good idea. And so, anyway, I do all of her blood tests, and I do the liquid biopsy. I do the cologuard. She came back positive. So I sent her to a gastroenterology close to her home in Los Angeles, and there was nothing, just a polyp. So that's how great it is for screening. The problem also is they clean the colonoscopies with a chemical. Okay. And it's glutaraldehyde. And I always say, like, how much residue is on those machines by the time they use it on you. Also, it doesn't get rid of all of the bugs. There's an ingredient called periactin that you want to use to make sure that they cleanse those instruments with gross. It's a place for colonoscopy. Okay, but if you're doing a screening, even if my patients have a family history of colon cancer, I still will recommend the cologuard. And I've been doing that for, actually ever since it came out. Because when I read how good the sensitivity and specificity, I went, oh, this is way better. We're focusing on cancer, but the number one cause of death now is really heart disease. And heart disease is also preventable. So one of the easiest things people can do, and I do it on my. All of my patients regularly is I have them Do a five minute heart scan looking for calcification. It's called a heart CT. Cost about $150, so it's not a lot of money. Sometimes insurance covers it, sometimes it doesn't. So for men 45 years and older, I have them do a heart CT for calcification. So what does that mean? It's calcifications that are feeding the arteries of the heart. And so that is a early detection for heart disease. Now, women after menopause, because most women do not have heart disease until they go through menopause. So usually I won't do it until they've gone through menopause. So that is an incredible tool. Cholesterol is not a, you know, prevention tool because you need cholesterol for all your cells. And so they check your cholesterol on every single person.
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A
I hate the cholesterol stuff.
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B
But the cholesterol, as you know, is not your enemy. It's an important part of every cell membrane in your body.
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A
Yes.
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B
So. And all of your hormones are made from cholesterol. Cholesterol. So cholesterol is not the enemy that it's been made out to be.
- [80:46]
A
I should do an episode specifically on cholesterol because I have.
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B
And heart disease.
- [80:50]
A
Yeah, and heart disease. I haven't done that yet. I do know that my friend Hilda Labrada Gore from the Western A Price foundation on her podcast Wise Tradition, she just did like a three or four episode series on cholesterol with different experts and how it's. It's not a bad thing. We need cholesterol. Cholesterol is good for you. And just explaining all of that kind of stuff and just the. The lies were told about cholesterol. So if you're really interested in learning more about that specifically, you should listen to her podcast. Okay, so a couple, like, quick hit questions. What is so good about red light therapy?
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B
So red light, it's nothing new. It's been around for a long time. Many, many studies on it. So what red light is doing is that it is helping the mitochondria take care of you. And so your mitochondria, your powerhouse engines of your cell that make your ATP, which is the currency of life. And so every cell has to function through their mitochondria. So that means every system, Red light can help. So if you have everything from hair loss to bad skin to bad heart to abdominal problems, whatever, red light can be very, very beneficial.
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A
I found a gym near me that has a red light booth that you stand in for 10 minutes. I have a Membership where I pay for it monthly. I go. I can go once or twice a day, and it is so amazing. And a lot of gyms offer that. So that's something that you can be looking for is a gym near me. Do they have a red light booth? And sometimes they'll do an infrared sauna, which is awesome. Yeah, you get your sauna and you get your red light, and it's just like paying for a tanning bed membership. Except, you know, tanning beds are terrible.
- [82:23]
B
These are great. Yeah. You need to invest in your health. Yes, you're absolutely right. I'm. And, and, and so any kind of, you know, any red light, you know, some people buy little and some people buy full body. In my clinic, I have 50,000 red lights. And it's like a t. It looks like a tanning bed. Yes, but it's just red lights.
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A
And you. Do you really like this for brain cancer patients?
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B
I like it for every. I use it. I. It's five days a week. I get that five days a week. And it's very inexpensive.
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A
Okay, what about PEMF mat? What is that?
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B
So PEMF is pulsed electromagnetic field. So remember we talked about the energy. So all of your cells have magnetic energy. In fact, we have something called the human energy field. But. So if something is diseased, whether it's cancer, whether it's a joint, whether it's pain, you're delivering high intensity magnetic fields to the body. And it's very loud. It sounds like an MRI scan. So it's very, very beneficial. There's over thousands of PEVMed studies on P post electromagnetic. So you can do it locally to an air area like a hip or your brain or your abdomen, or we also do the whole body. So when we have a patient, we do the whole body because the whole body needs energy. And then we put loops on different parts of the body, whether it's here, here, shoulders, hip, whatever. And we put particularly focused PMF on the body.
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A
Well, I've seen those for sale. You can get a little mat and lay on it at home. Do you. So do you like that?
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B
Yeah, I have a beamer mat at home and at the office, you can do that every day. And so that also helps with the chronic exposure of electromagnetic fields.
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A
Can people with heart disease do red light therapy? Infrared sauna?
- [84:04]
B
Absolutely, all of them. I have no caution about putting a patient in red light or infrared sauna.
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A
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B
We have a sunlight deficiency, so I try to go out in the sun daily. So in midday, I like to go outside our building and walk around. And so, or sometimes I just lay out on the grass at my office.
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A
My team can tell you anytime we're traveling because we live in Arizona, so it's desert. We have fake Astroturf grass out there with no real grass. So anytime we travel, I'm like, guys, there's grass here. I can go outside, walk around.
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B
Right. Anytime you can get sunlight. It's a great idea. Okay. Sunlight is good for you. People don't realize that every one of our cells has photonic light. Okay. And energy from the sun is stimulating your whole body and stimulating your production of vitamin D. So sunlight is good. I personally do not wear sunscreen. All right? So I actually use peptides. Peptides. It's natural peptides that help my skin, you know, so you can you brown as opposed to red.
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A
Please tell me what the name is.
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B
Yeah, I'll. I'll give it to you. I don't. I can't think of the name right now, but if I am going out in the sun for long periods of time, like over an hour, I will use a really good natural sunscreen. All right. Does that mean like mineral that minerals with vitamin C and E and, you know, all this aloe, But I rarely use that because I usually am not out in the sun for, you know, three or four hours. The other thing I like to take to protect the skin is xanthin. A. Xanthin is a real powerful antioxidant and so that helps protect the skin or carotenoids. Like if you have take beta carotene or eat carrots, that's the carotenoid that's really, really good for your skin also.
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A
Any recommendations for like, severe Dr. Dry skin, dry eye, or just dry?
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B
If you're dry, that means you're not having enough oils.
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A
Okay.
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B
So you want to make sure you have plenty of oils, whether in your diet or maybe you supplement.
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A
But not seed oils?
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B
Yeah, not seed oils. Not seed oils, but other kinds of oils. Okay. And also hydration. So a lot of people are chronically dehydrated. They don't. Don't drink enough water to hold on to your water. You want to have plenty of minerals, and minerals help your body absorb the water better. So like, you have Minerals. Like when you make a green juice, you get minerals in there. But today, our soils are devoid and depleted of minerals. So everyone, I would say, of the top nutritional requirement for everyone is to take minerals. Now, I personally use Ketonone Ketone.
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A
My team, I take this, too. I take this to Dr. Connealy, and some of them think that it's a fake placebo. No.
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B
So let me tell you, it's not.
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A
I have been talking about this.
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B
Yes. So I've been using Quintone for 20 years. Okay? It's very old. It's been around for over 200 years. Developed by Dr. Renee Quintone, it has the perfect, perfect assembly of all your minerals. So your bot, your bot, your blood is like ocean water with red blood cells in it. Right? That's what it is. And so these are beautiful vials. In fact, my patients who do not want blood transfusion, I give it intravenously.
- [90:18]
A
Ooh.
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B
And so. And they always say, how much better? Oh, my God, I feel so much better in an hour after, because I give them 150cc of this. You know, you're taking the little 10cc vial, I'm giving them 150cc.
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I've posted about these on my Instagram story, if you follow me on Instagram. It's like little glass vials. You snap the end off and you take a swig.
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B
If you do not have minerals, your cells have no energy or voltage. And vitamins can't work. Yes, vitamins work with minerals.
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A
Okay, so they have a dark amber glass one and then a clear one. Which one do you do in the morning?
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B
One is isotonic and one is hypertonic. So I use hypertonic for patients who have in their blood low sodium and chloride. So some people have hyponatremia, which is low sodium. So I have them start on the isotonic and go to the hypertonic. But for you, just use isotonic. So I just use isotonic regularly every day.
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A
And they make little satchels on.
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B
Yeah, I just don't like those as much.
- [91:18]
A
Well, I don't either. But when you're traveling, though, to not.
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B
I'm. I. I don't do it. You do it. I. Because I don't. I tried it and I. Anything alters the taste. Whereas glass, those glass vials, it's not altered.
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A
So what do you think about supplements for kids?
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B
Absolutely.
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A
Which ones?
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B
I have four grandkids, so I, of course, sent my, you know, daughters, like a book on how to prepare food for the kids that didn't come for Me came from someone else. Because you always have to use somebody else as your bad guy. Yes, obviously I'm a fanatic because when I had my kids, I was crazy mommy and about a lot of things, and food was one. I made all my own baby food, and I was fanatic. It's not to say they never had a chocolate chip cookie or anything, because that extreme is also not good. So any extreme on either side is not good. So you got to have, you know, fun. And so when I picked them up from school one day a week, we went out and got a treat, but it was only one day a week. There's a great liquid that I use made by the Schiff company. It's a German company. It's a liquid vitamin. So that is. It has vitamins and herbs in it. Old. I mean, it's been around for a very, very long time. So that's what I recommend for like, a little one. Now, if you're doing breast milk, okay, that's the ideal. But unfortunately, if you read the studies on breast milk, you know, unfortunately, all of our body tissues, even the purity of breast milk has toxicity. Okay? So that's why I always tell the mom before she even gets pregnant for three months to cleanse her body with a detox program, sauna or bath, et cetera, et cetera, liver cleanse, all these. It's just the prudent thing to do today. And so they need usually a dha, which is an omega Omega. Right. And then maybe some vitamin D. So that's kind of the minimal, those two things. Now, I gave my kids all zeolite. I don't know if you know what zeolite. Zeolite is a volcanic ash mineral that was used to cleanse industrial toxic water. And it's been around for a very, very long time. Used in industry to purify different, you know, spills and bad water. Our cells are either positive or negative charged. So this is a negatively charged, which removes the positively charged things, which are toxins in our body.
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A
Oh, okay.
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B
So zeolite has been around. It's nothing new. It's been around for a long time. It comes easy in a little spray, and you spray it and it detoxifies chemicals and heavy metals.
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A
Okay. How intense does a workout routine need to be to be anti cancer?
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B
Well, first of all, everybody isn't moving enough. You have 800 muscles that need to be moved every day for lots of different reasons. And so you need to be doing weightlifting three days a week. All right. At least 30 minutes each time, and then the rest of the time, cardiovascular. So walking. So you should be doing a total minimum of 180 minutes a week. So that's not that much time.
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A
This is my biggest weakness, Dr. Connealy. I do all the right things. I eat the right things. Things. I do not exercise at all.
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B
I. Oh, well, so you need to start.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And start. You just hate it. Well, you have to change your thinking.
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A
I know.
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B
Okay. You have to change your thinking and say how privileged I am that I get to move and that I have all my body parts. I am going to steward and take care of my body. So you need to think about that you're privileged that you get to walk up straight and you don't have any challenges. All right?
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Okay.
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B
So. Because, you know, look at the people that are older, they walk with the cane or whatever, or even younger, or people who've been fought in war and lost their legs or whatever. And they can't. They can't live the life that, you know, that you have that you're privileged to live. So you need to. One of the most important things that every single person needs to do is steward the miracle that they're privileged to have and take care of. Of it every single day.
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A
Oh, good. Encouragement. Good encouragement. And good, good. You know, getting on to.
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B
And you can learn to love it. You can learn to love it. It's all about. We can always change our mind about anything.
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A
Why do you talk about tongue scraping in your book?
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B
Because the mouth is a reservoir of. Of. Of. Of its own ecosystem. Okay. It has its own microbiome, and the mouth is the gateway to the rest of the body. So, so, and that's another. You know, most of everything I'm talking about is not talked about. Right. So we need to take care of our mouth. That's why quinone water is so good, because you. You should swish it for at least a minute to.
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A
I haven't been doing that.
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B
Yeah, you want to swish the Quintone water for at least a minute. It's good for any body fluid. Like, I've gotten rid of eye infection, nose problems, all kind. In fact, they have a new nose. Nasal spray.
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A
Oh, I got to get that.
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B
That is great. Because everything. Things come in through your nose, right? But your mouth is the gateway to the rest of the body. One of the things I talk about in my book is the coconut oil. So the coconut first thing in the morning. It helps. You know, your mouth is. I mean, your body is detoxing all night, so things Tend to, to centralize in your mouth. And so you want to do the coconut oil for as many minutes as you can. I know people, you know, everybody's going, like, how am I going to fit everything in? I always tell people, do little by little, okay, maybe one thing a day. You don't have to do everything every day. Now, when cancer patients, they spend basically their whole day taking care of themselves because they're making up for lost time. So the tongue scraping is also another way of, you know, purifying and cleansing the mouth. So the coconut oil and the tongue scraping both are also just very beneficial to prevent infections and to, to prevent all the complications that happen in the mouth.
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A
Let's talk about the person listening to this who has just gotten a cancer diagnosis or has a loved one fighting cancer. Is it ever too late to switch to integrative medicine when you're fighting it?
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B
Well, the first thing that people need to understand is that they're in shock when they get a cancer diagnosis or when a loved one gets a cancer diagnosis and realize that this just didn't happen. And then you want to. You're allowed to have a pity party and cry and feel sorry for yourself, but then start trying to devour everything about the subject. You need to become educated and empowered, and you can't do it by yourself. So you got to have cheerleaders around, around you and people who maybe someone who's conquered cancer could be a great cheerleader. Okay? Reading the latest greatest books, looking at what doctors are treating cancer both ways. Okay, not just the conventional, but the conventional combining with the best of updated medical procedures like you talked about red light and PMF and looking as, how am I going to not only take care of my body and receive the treatment, treatments, and then all the different facets of the disease and so, and really, truly understand the efficaciousness of surgery, chemo and radiation. Because really, in the last 60 years for solid tumors, 90% of chemotherapy has not worked for. For cancer. So you. That's why I'm saying you never can rely on just chemotherapy. Because in my program practice, what we do is we think, how many things, how many magic bullets can we use? Chemotherapy may be necessary, but what are the other magic bullets like, repurposed drugs, the IVs, the purification, you know, getting rid of the, the microorganisms that are contributing to the garden or the terrain of the cancer. And so, you know, unfortunately, look at what's happened. Nixon declared war on cancer in 1970. Are we conquering cancer? Are we Preventing cancer? None of the above. Cancer rates are the highest it's ever been. And I know that a major cancer institute close to me predicted that cancer is going to be 30% more in the next five years. Second of all, the chemotherapy and the immunotherapy, the treatments we have, we've extended life by 3.9 months.
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A
Wow.
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B
No one has put a number on a patient's life. Right. Because it's not just a number. It's many, many, many things. And that's why for all health conditions, we need to be. Be preventing cancer. We need to be preventing all of these diseases.
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A
But if someone, let's say, for example, they're stage three or stage four, like, is that too late? They can't switch to you if they wanted to.
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B
Okay? So we have a lot of stage four cancer patients. Okay. Because why they don't come to us in the beginning? And I've had many cancer patients have stage two for. And get to a scan of what they call no evidence of disease.
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A
Incredible.
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So do I save everyone? No, but we do very good for people who were considered hopeless. Okay? And now I. My philosophy is you never give up on someone else and you never give up on yourself. That's how we find discomfort discoveries, is never giving up.
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A
Is what you do covered by insurance?
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B
So I started practicing medicine in the conventional indemnity plan where you had insurance and they paid you. So three years ago, I made a decision that I could not do it anymore in the conventional insurance reimbursement because they paid so little.
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A
Okay?
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B
And I was killing myself.
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A
Okay?
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B
And so I got out of the insurance. Insurance model completely just three years ago. So I took insurance for 35 years, and then I said, no, this is getting abysmally horrible in how they reimburse the doctors. And I'm not the only doctor that talks about this. You know, all the other doctors complain about it. So I don't take insurance. Now, I have other providers that are less expensive than me. But the way I look at it is that I am giving you in one hour, invaluable knowledge that will save you lots of time, energy, and money. That's how I look at it. Like, all of my friends that I know of, okay, that see me, and I have my intimate group of friends, and then I have the people that, you know, they're friends, but I don't, you know, I don't socialize with them all the time. That not one of my friends has cancer, has heart disease, or has dementia. My oldest friend is 86 years of age and they were actually came in as patients. The wife came in first because women tend to go to the doctor. Men don't go to the doctor that much. In fact, they never go to the doctor unless they come in with the daughter, a girlfriend, a mistress or a wife. Okay. That's the only way usually men get in. I'll be honest. Okay. A few of them come in on their own own volition, but they have no homo interruptus in their life because they have decided to make health their number one value.
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A
So estimation. How much would your treatment center cost a cancer patient to go to versus just like a traditional oncologist, Right?
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B
That's a great question. So they say that the out of pocket expenses if you have Insurance is about $35,000. So like your co pay, right. So if I have a patient for prevention, if you wanted to do, you know, it was like you just have nothing wrong. Your blood work, most blood work is covered by insurance. But I have a lab called CORE that they give my patients very, it's very good price on for about 220. $225. You get all your blood and hormones checked. So and the visit, you know, and let's say I did a liquid biopsy, you know, we're talking $1,200, $1,500. Okay. For prevention. Now if you have cancer, as you know, I meet the patient where they are, some patients, their cases are, are astronomical.
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A
Okay.
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B
If you have stage four for even the conventional doctors and you went the conventional way, it's going to be monumental cost because even your copay, you know, in today's world, insurance is not paying for what you need. I mean, I hear some of my patients tell me the co pay for their drug is 2000amonth just for the drug dog park. That's not counting scans, the doctor visit or anything else. Okay, so, so you know, if you think about, I mean, if I had a stage four, I mean you're talking it's, you know, expensive, like hundreds of thousands. Well, it depends. You know, some of my patients it's much less expensive because I'm just trying.
- [105:13]
A
To figure out like, if somebody has stage four cancer and they go to like a regular doctor, you know, it's going to cost out of pocket $80,000. If they go see you, it's going to be, you know, on average for that case, like 95 or, or whatever. I'm just trying to see like how.
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B
Much of a difference. And they can, if they have a insurance, they can Get a lot of it reimbursed. They can probably get about 50% reimbursed.
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A
Okay.
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B
So we give them a company that can do their billing.
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A
Got it.
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B
Okay. So they may, I would say they would get average reimbursement 50% if, let's say something cost $50,000.
- [105:49]
A
Okay. Do your patients have to live in Orange County?
- [105:52]
B
No, my patients come from Australia to, to New Zealand, to us all over the world.
- [105:58]
A
So if you're treating somebody, they just, they're responsible for flying in to see you.
- [106:02]
B
Right.
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A
And how often would that be?
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B
Well, if they're, well, you know, people only see me once a year now if they have cancer. Like I have a patient that's from Australia right now. Now. And for some reason Australians know about us. I don't know why. So it's kind of interesting that that country tends to gravitate to things we do here. And she, I did a zoom with her first and then I told her everything to get done with her doctors and their blood work and everything. And then we fine tuned everything just online and then she's just here for a week to do, you know, specific testing that we're doing. So. And she has a history of, I mean, she had cancer, got treatment. You know, she used her plan in Australia to get the, you know, testing done and everything. And treatment meaning a surgery or chemo and then they'll come over. Now I had one guy who spent four months with us, but he had his seventh reoccurrence of the cancer. Cancer. So. So I mean, there are one of our options. And he's doing, he's alive and well and, and living life with, and with his kids and everything.
- [107:19]
A
Wow.
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B
Just based on the treatment we did, now he could afford being at the clinic four months, but he needed to be for everything we had to do. I mean this is a guy who's, you know, fought it many times, but only what they were doing is just the drugs.
- [107:36]
A
Are you the only doctor doing what you do or are there some in other areas of the country?
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B
Oh yeah, there's doctors. Not a lot.
- [107:43]
A
How do you find them?
- [107:44]
B
Okay, well, there is something called Acim Connect. There's something called acam. Acam. And there is another place I would just, I would Google integrative oncology.
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A
Okay.
- [108:00]
B
That's what people should do. So there's doctors, Doctors, like some of my patients see a doctor like in Florida. But they come to see me to just make sure that that doctor is doing because, because I've had many patients tell me like, okay, I'm going to this doctor and I'll tell the doctor and he's an integrative, but he doesn't have all the tools we use in the clinic. Okay. So they'll come in to, you know, you know, look at other options. Like I had a patient, she's from New York and she's seeing an integrative doctor getting low dose chemo. And then I said, she said, I need to know what else doctor, you, you always have ideas. What do you, what else do can we do? So I actually, believe it or not, she was doing so well and she had stress with her son, 20 year old son. So I spent half the visit visit talking about stress and how she needs to get that under control. Because you, I said you just had a glaring example of how this stress caused the tumor markers to go up. So I spent half the visit of going over her psycho emotional issues. And the husband was so happy because he goes, this is the best doctor visit we've ever had. Because, because this is what we need to deal with.
- [109:23]
A
Yes. All the whole body. You are not kidding about the whole body. Are you taking new patients?
- [109:28]
B
Well, I don't take any new patients for optimization anymore. I do take new patients for cancer because I find that's the biggest need today, the human optimization and prevention. I have a whole team, we have superstars of people that work in our clinic, meaning every single person in my office is like amazing because they're all about the mission and they love what they do and they just happen to be a genius at what they do. And so it's not just me. I, you know, I've been doing this, I'm the oldest, but also these new people that I have, they just are passionate about the care of the human frame.
- [110:15]
A
If you could pick one thing, what would be your remedy to heal a sick culture? And you can interpret that question in any way that you'd like.
- [110:24]
B
We need each other to heal. And if we would set up communities of healing and you have like, you know how you have the fire station and the fire stations for the community. Right. We need a place where people could go do songs, they could do red light. And I don't think anybody would have any problem paying a little bit. But you know, to have a membership, it's probably pretty expensive if you. Right. But I just, I think if you had communities of healing that people can learn how to teach, they can help with the stress of, you know, a child and all the remedies that, you know, can help a Child heal. And you had this resource community center just for, for health.
- [111:11]
A
I love it.
- [111:12]
B
This would be transformative because when I had my children we had was called the better baby mom and it was all about how to grow a moral, intelligent, healthy child. And we all got together and helped each other on resources and that's what you need. You need need. We heal in community, not by ourselves.
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A
Okay, so what is the name of your book and the name of your clinic?
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B
So the name of my book is the Cancer Revolution. This was done in 2017.
- [111:53]
A
It's phenomenal. And she has tons of recipes which I was like so excited about. I already earmarked some that I want to do.
- [112:00]
B
Yeah. So this, the follow up to this book is coming out in January 2025 because as you know, things get better and change. And then the name of our clinic is Cancer center for Healing and center for New Medicine.
- [112:14]
A
And what is your Instagram?
- [112:16]
B
Connealy MD and then one big thing that people can all learn from is our cancer conversation. That's every two weeks. So every two weeks on Tuesday at 5:00. We just did one this week and I did it all on hydrogen water.
- [112:33]
A
5Pm Pacific.
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B
Yeah, 5pm Pacific. Now it is taped and it's on our YouTube channel, Cancer Conversation.
- [112:41]
A
Oh fabulous. Great. We'll put that link in the bio.
- [112:43]
B
And it's a community of people. They're, they're all. And everybody has an opportunity ask questions. So once, once a month of the cancer conversation is ask us anything and then one I usually feature a special guest.
- [112:58]
A
Phenomenal. Thank you so much Dr. Connealy for coming on Culture Apothecary.
- [113:02]
B
It's my privilege and honor to be here.
- [113:08]
A
There's a lot of things that were brought up that we could just do a solo deep dive episode on that one subject. But I tried to kind of COVID all of the basics. What Dr. Connealy is doing in regards to cancer care is so remarkable and groundbreaking. I know that she was like this isn't groundbreaking. This is just how we were always supposed to do it. But weirdly in today's world it is. I wish it wasn't so hard to get advice like this when given a diagnosis. My hope with today's interview is that what you will have learned learned will be amazing. To prevent a future diagnosis or help you if you currently have one. If you or someone you love has cancer right now. I hope they will listen to this episode and they will consider Dr. Connealy's 14 day plan to try post cancer diagnosis which is explained in her book. I really recommend that book. The link for everything. Her Instagram book, her website, all in the show notes. I'm also going to include a link to get those Quinton minerals that we talked about. If you have not listened to my interview with Robert Slovak, the water scientist who talked about Quinton minerals, it was a while back before the name of the show changed, so I will link that episode below. Culture Apothecary is every Monday and Thursday night at 9pm Eastern, 6pm Pacific. Don't forget that five star review. Healing a Sick Culture Physically, Mentally and Spiritually. I'm Alex Clark and this is Culture Apothecary.