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Bretman Rock
The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Good morning, everybody. It is yet again Thursday.
Ms. K
Good Morning, everyone.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, Ms. K and I tried to serve some Aloha Friday looks. I know.
Ms. K
So we're giving it Aloha Thursday.
Bretman Rock
Aloha Thursday. But tomorrow is Aloha Friday. For those of you who don't know what is Aloha Friday.
Ms. K
Ms. K, Aloha Friday is when everybody tends to wear like, aloha shirts on a Friday.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, but why is it called Aloha Friday? Do you know the jingle?
Ms. K
No.
Bretman Rock
The one that's like, it's Aloha Friday. No school till Monday.
Ms. K
I've never heard of that.
Bretman Rock
Well, for as far as I know, yes, it's Aloha Wear Friday. But also a lot of workers as students celebrate Fridays because it's like the weekend.
Ms. K
Yeah, basically.
Bretman Rock
So it's like, you know, I feel very much, very much. But yes, happy. Pretty free Aloha Friday to everyone. Pre you believe we are already in the third week of February?
Ms. K
I know. Time went by so fast. January went like that. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And February is even going by so much faster, I fear. Well, today, as when we're filming this.
Kat
Well, today. Today.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Today is the seventh. But when this episode goes up, it's going to be the 20. The 20th.
Ms. K
The 20th.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
Oh, my God.
Bretman Rock
Hello, March. Hello, mother talking.
Kat
March going on.
Ms. K
March is coming.
Bretman Rock
Yes. I wanted the third episode of February to be with my man.
Ms. K
Yes, yes, girl.
Bretman Rock
It's just so hard filming anything with justice nowadays.
Ms. K
I know.
Bretman Rock
He is in his worker era.
Ms. K
I haven't been seeing him.
Kat
He's a worker bee.
Bretman Rock
He's a worker bee. He's busier than me. So we'll try to film probably the last episode of February, maybe next week. Week with Justice. Do you want to interview him?
Kat
You should.
Ms. K
Oh, my God.
Bretman Rock
We should put him in a hot seat.
Ms. K
Okay, fine, you guys. I get nervous talking to him sometimes.
Bretman Rock
Why?
Ms. K
For no reason. I don't know why. Because I feel like I have nothing to talk to him about.
Bretman Rock
So I'm like, he does have really intense eye contact.
Ms. K
Yes.
Bretman Rock
That was like from our first date. I'm like, do we blink?
Ms. K
I love people that make can make eye contact.
Bretman Rock
No, for sure. But I'm not a super eye contact. Are you an eye contact?
Ms. K
I'm an eye contact.
Kat
I'm eye contact. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
How are you on. Are you our eye contact first? Like. No, no, I'm saying, are you the eye contact person or do you look for eye contact her? Because I'm not.
Ms. K
I look for it. And I am one. Yeah.
Kat
I feel like it's both. I feel like I'm looking for it, and as soon as I make it, I'm, like, locked.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I'm. I don't think I am. I think I look at people's teeth or, like, noses anywhere but eyes. Because I start. Especially if I have a crush on you, I feel like if I'm, like, talking to my friends, I will look at them in the eye. But if I crush on you, even with my mans now, like, I can't even, like.
Ms. K
So are you the type of person that would, like, if they make, like, eye contact with you? Just, like, to look like.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, I'm so shy. Like, I'm just a little girl.
Kat
A mood. I'm the same way.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
If it's my man's, I'm like, don't look at me.
Bretman Rock
But don't you think there are some instances where eye contact is a little too much? Is there ever a time.
Ms. K
I don't know, to be honest, because at work, I. If I'm taking your order. Eye contact.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K
And sometimes I could feel them, like, looking away, and I'm just like, look at me in the eyes because I need to hear what you're saying.
Bretman Rock
I can't relate. Anyway.
Kat
Too much.
Bretman Rock
Sorry. What was that?
Kat
Sorry. What would you think? Did you have an answer?
Ms. K
An occasion?
Bretman Rock
Yeah, I would say there are some times where I'll answer this question after this break.
Kat
Okay.
Bretman Rock
Bratman to Earth. Earth to Bratman. Girl. You already know who it is. And we are back. Okay. So to answer your question, when is it too much? I feel like, especially if I'm like, if it's. It, it's.
Ms. K
Oh, sorry.
Bretman Rock
Especially.
Kat
Oh, my gosh.
Bretman Rock
I know. By the way, I don't know if we've ever explained why Ms. K has an extra set. She loves playing with her mic, so we gave her that to play with.
Ms. K
It's like my little Fidget, but.
Bretman Rock
But yeah, I think it's like, the one that I remember just being so shy is whenever I met my business managers or my lawyers for the first time because I think with their jobs also, I'm so sorry to Will and Brett for talking to y'all. Like, you're not in the room.
Ms. K
Hi, everybody.
Bretman Rock
But when I first met them, they make such, like, intense eye contact that I'm like.
Kat
It's intimidating.
Bretman Rock
I feel like I'm being interrogated at some point. I'm like, am I right now?
Ms. K
Like.
Bretman Rock
And they're, like, such high authority. And they're, like, in big suits that I'm just like, I'm going to jail after this. I feel like, do I need a lawyer?
Ms. K
It gets intense. But I think my boundary with eye contact is I will never make an eye contact with, like, a friend's partner.
Kat
Oh, that's true. I never thought about that.
Bretman Rock
Oh, I never thought about that. I. I mean, I already don't make too much eye contact anyway, so I feel like I don't think about that. Regardless, we should talk more about, like, boundaries. Yeah, yeah. Red flags right after our segments. Okay, Ms. K, that drink is calling my name, you guys.
Ms. K
I don't know if I could use some of the products I use, but I just used it. Brett is drinking it anyway, so.
Bretman Rock
Bitch.
Ms. K
Anyway, I was, like, today I was, like, daydreaming about, like, a watermelon mint drink.
Bretman Rock
Watermelon mint?
Ms. K
Yeah. But the watermelon I got was not giving watermelon. It was giving, like, very ripe and a sweetness. I was like, this is not working right. So this drink.
Bretman Rock
Because we were like, where is Ms. K? And I. Yes, Ms. K. Where is your era, girl? Because you swear you were. We can talk about that too.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You swear you were just going to your doctor, and I was like, coming straight here, and I'm like, what is this? I text her, what's your era? And she's like, oh, I'm just grabbing watermelon for your drink real quick. I'm like, we usually have Ms. K Tex Cat.
Ms. K
Like, yeah, but this one was like, I didn't know what to make, and I was like, on my way here stuff. But I. It's watermelon spearmint with pomegranate water and honey.
Kat
Like, pomegranate juice.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Oh.
Bretman Rock
You ate with this?
Ms. K
Really? I literally.
Bretman Rock
It tastes okay. I will say, because people really think I'm, like, kissing Ms. K's ass. I have nothing to. Yeah, well, I'm the type of. I'm like, this is nasty because. No, not this, but, like, I can say that to Ms. K. Because the reason why Ms. K makes drinks and not food is because.
Ms. K
I like to mix my food.
Bretman Rock
I. I love Ms. K. I really do. I hate when Ms. K experiments on food. Like, she never just eats the food the way it is supposed to be. Like, we would go to, like, go get pho, and she would put everything that they have, even if it's not for the pho, on the pho, and then she'll convince me that's the best thing ever. She'll be like, Brett, you need to try this right now. This is the best thing ever. And I would taste it, and I'm.
Ms. K
Like, kefir, no, it's not. You guys. I have, like, a very. How would you say that? Like a talent acquired taste.
Bretman Rock
A wide palette, if you will.
Ms. K
I like, I Sometimes, whenever I eat food, I'm like, this needs something. And I couldn't. I don't know what I. What it was.
Bretman Rock
And it's always. Every time, every food needs a little something with miss K Girl.
Ms. K
So I just start adding stuff until it tastes like what I feel like in my head that it should taste like, period.
Bretman Rock
Oh, okay. So I was saying about the drink. It tastes a lot like palm.
Ms. K
Palm.
Bretman Rock
Palm. Like, it's the pomegranate drink. And it's. You bought it for me before.
Ms. K
Oh, it's. It's one of the ones I use.
Bretman Rock
Oh, you.
Kat
You. Oh, okay.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, wait, it tastes like palm. I'm not tasting too much watermelon. Yeah, but it's really good, girl. It tastes healthy.
Ms. K
Like, it has, like, a little hint of, like, watermelon on it. If anything, we like her.
Bretman Rock
We also. A queen has been make remaking.
Ms. K
I know.
Kat
That was so cute.
Bretman Rock
Can you please find her at so we can give her a shout out?
Ms. K
She's such a queen. I was like, I woke up this morning and I saw it, and I was like, oh, my God, that is so cute.
Bretman Rock
I. I just saw it when you were on your way here, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. She. I thought she was gonna make, like, one to two drinks, but miss girl didn't have, like, the episodes.
Kat
Oh, yeah. It's so Cali. Asia.
Ms. K
So Cali Asia.
Kat
Yeah, so s. Okay. Asia.
Bretman Rock
So Cali Asia. I'm sorry, but for the next couple episodes is gonna stay as tea or, like, a refreshment. These are matchas for now until March 15th, which is when my 75 heart ends. Girl.
Ms. K
Oh, my gosh. Perfect timing.
Bretman Rock
I keep thinking about how my first taste of, like, caffeine is going to be.
Kat
I feel like it's gonna be bitter.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Bitter or I feel like it's gonna hit me like a trucker. Like, yeah. Energy, like, and I cannot wait. I feel like I'm taking, like, a tolerance break or something. You are.
Ms. K
I'm pretty sure you're gonna be up all night.
Bretman Rock
I know.
Kat
Honestly.
Bretman Rock
Okay. I should read the baddest. I mean, the baddest. I should read the tea.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Oh, yeah, yeah, the tea. Okay. I'm just gonna read My most recent one.
Ms. K
I swear that that journal will be giving like an earthling journal.
Bretman Rock
Bitch. I feel like I conquer like a conqueror. Like, bitch, I feel like. Ugh. Anyways, February 6th also, I've been loving like my sticker maker. Okay. February 6th, 2025, girl, I became a US citizen yesterday. It was really such a fun experience. I'm not sure why I was so nervous for it. My only explanation is that I was probably just in disbelief that it was happening. I guess things just seem so far out of reach when you have been working out, working on it for years. And the end felt so far. Hold on, let me read that one more because I feel like that's supposed to hit. February 6, 2025, girl, I became a US citizen yesterday. It was a really such a fun experience. I'm not sure why I was so nervous for it. My only explanation is that I was probably just in disbelief that it was finally happening. I guess things just seem so far out of reach when you have been working on it for years. And the end felt so far. Everyone around me was so emotional and was so cool because one of my elementary school friends also became a citizen with me. Shout out to Gerald Soriano, girl. Which I didn't even know he was wasn't a citizen. I also met a couple of my supporters from the island, but as well as outer island girlies, which was so cool. Girl. I walked in and everyone was like. And a lot of the outer island girlies were taking pictures before like the whole ceremony. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was also high. While we were watching the presentation. It was not hard to realize that the Faces America video highlighted so many immigrants. Immigrants who made impact in our culture and society. Immigrants that made America the country that it is today. Immigrants are the backbone of America and I can't help to question the system. It's very hard and scary being an immigrant in the US right now. And just because I'm an American now for 24 hours, I will always be that 8 year old boy that came to America with just a dream and hopes. And I will always stand with my fellow immigrants because we belong.
Kat
Period. That was good and so true.
Ms. K
In the land of immigrants.
Bretman Rock
Yes. In Stolen Land, Girl. I read something that was like along the lines of nobody is a citizen in stolen land. And I truly believe that.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And that's what I will say about that situation.
Ms. K
That is such a cute quote.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Nobody's a citizen on stolen land. Yeah. And we stand by that.
Ms. K
But I do want to ask you a question about oh, my gosh, yes. Do you want to give us, like, a rundown of, like, what happened inside that room? Because I know it's like, it's a whole process.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
You talked about, like, watching a video, but what was like, the whole thing?
Bretman Rock
Oh, yeah, it was really, actually really easy. So I don't know if you guys know this, but in the mainland, they do same day oath. I think we talked about this last time. So we. I. So last time, me, MSK talked about the, the test taking part.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
So it's two parts, test taking and then the oath if you pass. In mainland, you do same day oath if you pass. But in Hawaii, because we are a smaller state and there are other, other islands involved, they schedule us in groups. So I was just in that group that day. That's why there were other immigrants. I mean, that's why there were other American. American citizens from outer islands, because they obviously, they're not going to fly back just to take an oath. So they check us, all of us in. It's really like a TSA girl. You take your belt off, you take your shoes off, and then they ask for your letter of, like, appointment.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You sit down with everybody and then they really just like, tell you the rules of, like, because you're handed a certificate and they're like, obviously telling you the obvious stuff, like, don't post it online, don't pose with it. And like, people can, can and will steal your identity. Yeah. And then they played the video, which truly. I was like, it truly was just a video of immigrants who are faces of America. And I was like, oh, my God, this is such a weird thing to watch, especially with what America is going through right now. And, like, just. I'm like, yeah, we are the backbone of America, but you're also like, kicking us out, which contradicts itself. You know what I mean?
Ms. K
People forgot what America is about.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Period. No, period. And after that, you take the oath and you just literally, like, read word for word. What? They give you a pamphlet of like, you know. Oh, also when you walk in, they give you a flag and a little pamphlet and like the oath. And then you read that and then they give you your award, your certificate, and then that's it. I did stay behind after to take pictures with people. And then we also all took pictures with the flag. Yeah, yeah. Like, we were all so excited and it was just so cool.
Kat
It was good vibes.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, no, for sure.
Ms. K
Everyone was just so happy to get it over with.
Bretman Rock
I know, and I know because I Was talking to some people there. And, like, a lot of that. I mean, I keep saying five years, but I know there's people out there in that room that probably had worked on it for as long as, like, 10, 15 years and as little as, like, months. You know what I mean? It is a scale.
Ms. K
Like, it's honestly the easiest thing to do to get your papers, like, citizen here. It's the waiting part that takes forever because you.
Bretman Rock
I think a lot of people, and I will even say a lot of Americans, think that you can just walk into an immigration office, ask for paperwork, and then become a citizen like that.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
It's not. It's not. And it. And it's case for case, and it's in. Yeah. I'm not even gonna get into details on why some people take longer than others, because it really is just case for case.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
But I'm just so glad that's done. Over with, over with. And no.
Ms. K
No one will take your passport, period.
Bretman Rock
I will get detained for hours. Oh, my God.
Ms. K
Hopefully, like this. This time traveling for you will be easier.
Bretman Rock
It will be. And we'll be together now in the same immigration lane.
Ms. K
Are you talking about this march?
Bretman Rock
Oh, my gosh.
Ms. K
Wait.
Bretman Rock
Let's manifest.
Ms. K
Yeah, we are. I've been manifesting, you guys.
Bretman Rock
The reason why me and Ms. K are going to the Philippines in March. I don't give a what for. We are going. If I have to book it myself, we are going.
Ms. K
Yeah. And that's the only reason why I keep talking about march. Because, like, I'm like. Brett was like, we're going to go to the Philippines march.
Bretman Rock
And I was like, I feel it in my bone. I feel it in my bone. I know I have work coming up that we are just finalizing, so we'll see. But, yeah, we are going to be there. It's not an option.
Ms. K
I was telling Brett, but that's a pack.
Bretman Rock
Like, literally, I was telling Brett the.
Ms. K
Other day, I was like, I'm taking this Philippine trip so seriously because I've been making friends. I've been giving them.
Bretman Rock
She has plans.
Ms. K
Yes. I was like, I'm making plans.
Bretman Rock
She has plans already. And I'm like, oh, my God, girl, the pressure's on. Because honestly, we. We need to go home. I need to go home. I need to feel revived. I need to feel inspired. Anytime I go home, I just feel like a new.
Ms. K
You just arrived.
Bretman Rock
Yes. I feel so inspired, and I just feel so grateful. Not that I don't feel grateful when I'm here in Hawaii. But like, there's just something that being home makes me. Brings that out of me, you know?
Kat
Especially like, when you go there and come back, like, you're so. You're so happy.
Bretman Rock
Like, yeah.
Kat
Compared to everywhere else you go. I've never seen the two of you just so full of life and energy. And like, when you come back, you're.
Bretman Rock
Like, there's a difference from when you pick me up from a Paris trip to a Filipino trip.
Kat
So different. Oh, my God.
Ms. K
Really loud in the car.
Bretman Rock
Night and day. Literally coming home from Paris, not a single peep in the car. I'm like, blast the music. Looking outside the window. And then Philippines, we come back from the Philippines and I'm like, cat, you turn. You turn this car right now. I don't want to be in here every.
Kat
The salmon bakes in the car.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Ready to cook them when you get home.
Ms. K
Oh, my God, My salmon bake girl.
Bretman Rock
That was a journey bringing that in here.
Ms. K
But I really was like, you're not bringing that. And then I was like, I am bringing this and I will carry it.
Bretman Rock
You're like, I told everyone about this. Yeah, we need to bring it. Oh, my God.
Ms. K
Not my water.
Kat
My.
Bretman Rock
My tongue is watering.
Ms. K
I haven't had salmon bacon.
Bretman Rock
Speaking of mouth watering, let's talk about Cat's titties. I'm kidding.
Ms. K
Yeah, guys, that's all I've been seeing from the, like, last videos, you guys.
Bretman Rock
So I. I'm sure you guys know this, but a lot of our videos are pre filmed. So the video of the. The cat. I keep calling you the cat.
Ms. K
The video of today.
Bretman Rock
The video that went out yesterday was the collab with Kat. Collab. Oh, my God. I'm like literally losing my train of thought. I keep thinking about her titties. Was the interview with Kat.
Ms. K
Kat.
Bretman Rock
And honestly, half. I would say not even half. 80% of the comments, especially on TikTok and Instagram, are just memes slash comments about cats. Bitties. And I love how like, YouTube is more like toned down and.
Kat
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ms. K
She sounds like a cartoon like character.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ms. K
But on like Tick Tock or Instagram, they're like, don't ask me any colors. I don't know see any colors.
Bretman Rock
I'm not better than any man.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
What were your favorite comments, Cat?
Kat
Definitely the ones on YouTube. They were so nice. They're just like. They're like, oh, she's so nice and positive. And I'm like, I cry, but it really is gorgeous.
Bretman Rock
One of the first comments I Saw was like, oh, we thought she was Filipino.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, she is basically an honorary.
Ms. K
She is very Filipino.
Bretman Rock
She made bulalo the other day.
Ms. K
So good.
Kat
Oh, yeah, girl.
Bretman Rock
And she didn't even eat it.
Kat
I went to go home. I was so tired.
Bretman Rock
Yes. Okay, wait. Actually, speaking of mouth watering, besides cat's bitty, what is the cat cooking?
Kat
Okay, so there is some bananas that need that were kind of ripe, so I made some banana bread.
Ms. K
I love banana bread.
Kat
I just drizzled some cookie butter on top.
Bretman Rock
I don't know if I'm just a dumb girl, but, like, I'm always asking Kat to get bananas. I'm craving banana when I don't have banana, but when I have bananas, I don't eat them.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Or he'll eat one and be like, that satisfied my cravings.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. And it just sits there. And then I'm like, two weeks later, we have banana breads, which at least I'm not wasting it, obviously. And, like, we always eat it.
Ms. K
And you're like, I want bananas when the banana breads are done.
Bretman Rock
No, literally. You did make a different version yesterday.
Kat
I did like, a muffin, and I tried to, like. So I drizzled it on top because the muffin had it inside of it. So I kind of, like, layered it. But I think they all got agents. So we have the banana bread.
Ms. K
The pecan is so good, period.
Kat
I'm glad y'all.
Bretman Rock
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Bretman Rock
And we're back. All right, Ms. K. Hi, everyone. You were saying something when we were on break. No.
Ms. K
Okay. So speaking of love or whatever, I'm talking to this boy. You guys, I have been saying yes to a lot of things lately, which.
Bretman Rock
Was your New Year's resolution, including, like.
Ms. K
Dating men, and I've been loving it. But there's this one boy that I was like, oh, my God, he is so nice. Always, like, ask me if I'm okay. Like, text me whatever when you get there.
Bretman Rock
I'm assuming you're telling us this because he's done. Huh? I'm assuming you're telling us this.
Ms. K
I'm getting that. I'm talking to him, actually.
Bretman Rock
Then why are you telling us?
Ms. K
Because it's kind of like a turn off.
Kat
Wait, wait, wait.
Bretman Rock
Let's let her cook.
Ms. K
And I was like, okay, okay. I don't know why, but I have this turn off.
Bretman Rock
What?
Ms. K
No, I'll just tell you the story first. Okay. So I was like, oh, she said, my cousin's house is from the west side. And he was like, oh, we're in the west side. And I was like, oh, up in this mountain, you know? And I was like, okay, I was at my cousin's house. This and that. And he was like, oh, okay. And we're Talking about it. And he was like, oh, do you know who lives there?
Bretman Rock
Wait, who lives in this neighbor? I'm like, trying to think.
Kat
I'm like, bretman rock, would you say? No way.
Ms. K
And I was like, what? Really? Who that? No, I was like, oh, I didn't know that. I was like, I didn't know that. But anyways, literally, that's all I said. And I was just like. In my head, I was like, I don't know because you guys, I went on a date before, like, long time ago, where I went inside, we went. I went with this guy, and as soon as I got inside the car, he was like, I know you. I watch you all the time on the Internet. And I'm like, mind you, I was talking to this boy for like, a whole week, and he never mentioned anything about me. Like, knowing us, you, preferably you. And then he goes, oh, I also brought my Bretman Brock palette. Can you have him sign it?
Kat
The Audacity.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my God. God keeper.
Ms. K
Yeah. And then she. And then he FaceTime someone. He's like, oh, look who I'm with. And I'm just like, oh, my God, this is not happening.
Kat
That's crazy.
Ms. K
And this was when. This was when, like, you were still in ever beach. Like, you know, the white house. Ever beach. Yes. So long time ago. And I wasn't really in your videos yet. I was just, like, around.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
So I was just like. The fact that that was happening to me, it's like I was like, oh, my gosh. So, like, not ever since that day. Every time they, like, mention you or anything, I'm like, ugh. It's giving. Like, I don't know.
Bretman Rock
I don't know how to feel about that. Well, as well as your cousin. And if that was to happen to me, like, I'm putting yourself. Myself in your shoe. Like, oh, if I had a cousin who was a little bit known, and then, like, I would feel kind of some type of way. Like.
Ms. K
Yeah. It's not even like I. I hate it or I don't like it. It's just kind of like, why lead with that? Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You know what I mean?
Ms. K
Like, why even say that?
Kat
Kind of like it's inevitable. Because we live on an island.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
Like, people. People are gonna eventually figure out, like, for me, like, they're figuring out, like, oh, like, they asked her the questions. They.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Like, you can take this out when you. If you. Whether or not you want me to say. But, like, I feel like the last guy you were talking to also knew Me was like, wait, because you told him, look, I'm a personal assistant. And then I guess the last guy you were talking to was like, it's not Brett Morocc, is it?
Kat
Yeah, he said that. And I was like, how do you know? But it was. It's never like, wait, I forgot where I was going with this. Now it's inevitable that. Because we live on an island. But there's one thing when they're coming into it, like, oh, my God, they know. Bretman rock, like, whatever.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Versus they figure out later on and they're like, oh, that's cool.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
You know?
Bretman Rock
Or if they knew and didn't lead with that.
Ms. K
That's.
Bretman Rock
You know what I mean?
Ms. K
I'm like, saying. Because I feel like, especially right now, like, that I'm, like, in this podcast with you. So I don't know if he's like. Like, just joking around like, that he doesn't know me. You know what I mean?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Does he have your socials?
Ms. K
Yes, girl.
Bretman Rock
He has to know us.
Ms. K
Yeah. That's why I saw his.
Bretman Rock
Because you're reposting the baddest video all the time.
Ms. K
Yeah. I mean, it's not like we're not on social media and stuff like that. So I'm just like, okay.
Kat
It's like, he's the one. Say it first.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Is that kind of thing?
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
That's so weird.
Bretman Rock
So he doesn't know our cousins, this guy? Why?
Ms. K
That's why I'm questioning it. Because he clearly knows you and, like, what you do and, like, where you are, where I.
Bretman Rock
If. Because if you know where I live, you at least need to know, Ms. K. Literally. Exactly.
Ms. K
But he's never mentioned about, like, me. He's like, so tell me. But he, like. He's always asking me about, like, about myself and things like that. And I was like, okay. And then as soon as he, like, mentioned you, I was like, oh, there's no way. This guy does not know me.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
Like, he's friends with, like, a bunch of, like, other gay people. So, like, because he. I was like, oh, I'm going to Scarlett. He's like, oh, I know people from there, so. Yeah.
Kat
Maybe he is trying to get to know you, though.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Like, it's inevitable. Maybe he knows, but maybe he just doesn't want to make you uncomfortable, too.
Ms. K
Yeah, we'll see.
Bretman Rock
Period. I feel like. I mean, to be honest, I barely go on dates. I feel like I can count on, like, two hands how many dates I've gone to and I feel like I've only really experienced one date where they, like, led with knowing me and like, oh, my sister knows you. And we had FaceTime her after. And then like, even. And maybe like, I don't know if it's just me in my head, but, like, when he said that he knew me, like, friend. I'm like, yeah, friend. We're gonna be friends.
Ms. K
Because you never know what their intention is.
Bretman Rock
Because even with justice, like, the conversation of me as Brett Monrock, like, came later on. Yeah. Like, he didn't lead with it. Like, he genuinely wanted to know me.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
As me. And then like, oh, and you're famous. Like, y. You know? Yeah. That was for the first and the second time we, like, met up.
Ms. K
I guess it's just like the fact that I went on that date before.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
I don't want that shit happening ever again.
Kat
I wouldn't either. I would hate that. That was like, I need to take this out. But that was like, when my ex, he had no clue. He's like, this is a nice house. I'm like, yeah, it's my bosses. And he's like, oh, is that him? I'm like, yeah. He's like, he looks nice. And I'm like, oh, you don't know who that is? Oh, period.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Okay. I guess you're gonna just lead off with that. A turn off on a date.
Ms. K
That's a turn off. That's a very big turn off for me.
Bretman Rock
No, for sure. No, I. Girl trust.
Kat
That's more turn off for me in friendships, like.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
With females.
Ms. K
And if he does get mad at me, we know he knows about me because.
Bretman Rock
So if he doesn't reply to you anymore.
Ms. K
Yes, yes.
Bretman Rock
Do you have any, like, dating red flags, dating tips?
Kat
Oh, for sure. But I'm not. Everybody's the same way as me, though, because I'm more. You have to be a gentleman. For sure. It goes out saying, like, open my car door. That's a red flag if he doesn't open my car door. It's the simplest of things. And then if he doesn't, like, offer to pay at first, like, I'll. I'll start to, like, look for my card. But, like, if he's not, like, you know, because I like a guy who's a. Who's just a gentleman and like.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Wants to be a provider. Doesn't mean I need it, but I want him to, like, be in that role.
Ms. K
Yes.
Bretman Rock
Period.
Kat
Because I'm not sugar mama.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, we also.
Kat
Wait, what?
Bretman Rock
I'm just looking at Myself in the mirror. That's why. And I just realized that sometimes I might look like I'm over Cat talking.
Ms. K
But there's a big ass mirror behind Cat.
Bretman Rock
I'm never looking at Cat. I'm always looking at myself. So if my face don't ever look like I'm interested in Cat talking, I am. I'm just looking at myself, by the way, because I already know people are going to be like, Brett is so over Cat. No, I'm just looking at myself through her. But anyways, no gentleman ness is really.
Ms. K
Really has to be there.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I think it's weird as it's a weird topic for me to talk about because obviously I'm gay and my boyfriend's gay, but I think because I am more feminine. Like. Okay, what am I trying to say? How does. I don't know how to word it.
Ms. K
Like how like when a person is more feminine than you and you're already very feminine.
Kat
No, no, you'll be treated like a little girl. Like, like a princess.
Bretman Rock
Okay, wait, let me think of how I want to word this. It's because, like, okay, I'm obviously like the more feminine one in my relationship. And, but we're both guys. Where does, where do you draw the line of like, who is the gentleman and who isn't? Like, because obviously, like, am I going to open. If he's going to open the door for me, which justice always does. Now he does. Do I open his door for him too? Because we're both gentlemen.
Kat
I would say no.
Ms. K
The fuck, right?
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K
Because I, I feel like that's when the roles come in, right?
Kat
Like you said, communication.
Bretman Rock
Right? Because somebody, as you guys know, I lost my ring. And I'm talking, I posted it everywhere and I know I still don't have it yet. If you guys are looking for update, I have not found my ring yet. But somebody was like, oh, maybe like justice got it to get your ring size for, like to propose to you. And then another comment was like, commented under that. I was like, no, Bradman is going to be the one proposing. And I'm like, oh, me girl posing to a man? Don't make me gag, bitch. Don't I guys be so for real? Do you see a bad bitch like this kneeling down? Will you marry me, Kiefer? Do you see me?
Ms. K
No, I don't see you ever.
Bretman Rock
I'm the one that's like, yes.
Ms. K
Girl.
Bretman Rock
I have not once dreamt about proposing, being the proposer. I always dreamt about being the proposee.
Kat
Yeah. And there's Nothing wrong.
Ms. K
I could never. Yeah. I would never say that you would be the one proposing.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Also, this is not a diss on, like, women or, like, you know, the more feminine one in the relationship proposing. Like, this is just strictly me. Like, my personal. Like, I. Because I already know some people are gonna make this about themselves. I said, I. I will never propose to a man. You, however, can go for it. Go for it. Like, I. This is. Girl, you can. And then start a podcast and talk about it. Like, do you want to make it about you? But, yeah, I do love a gentleman. I myself should be a gentleman, but I feel like, no, honestly, no, honestly, no.
Kat
There's, like, people.
Ms. K
Yeah, there's a. I feel like there's ways. Sorry, Cat. There's ways for you to be a gentleman, but it doesn't have to be like, what? Yeah, men do.
Bretman Rock
I'm a sweet girl. Yeah.
Kat
I feel like you just be caring in different ways, you know?
Ms. K
Yes, yes.
Kat
Justice gets you flowers, and it's so beautiful and, like. But you help him in other ways. Like, you get nice things for him in other ways or do nice things for him in other ways. And that's how I am. And I remember. I remember Justice. I got him flowers for his birthday. He's like, no one ever got me flowers before. And I was like, okay, it's not that big of a deal. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
But I already know if I brought him flowers, he'd be like, why?
Kat
Yeah, like, that's my job.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. So. But yeah, but you're right, though. Communication. Like, obviously. Like, if I ever felt like justice would want the same treatment, like, I'm sure he would tell me, like, hey, can you open my doors, too? Just how I tell him. I'm like, this door is so heavy. A little frail girl. Like, open doors. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I do. I love a gentleman, but I can't.
Kat
Yeah.
Ms. K
Like, okay, wait, speaking of that part, I don't like it when, like, since I am, like, gay or trans. I am trans, whatever. But if they're more girlier than me. Oh, I would never. I'm sorry. Like, I have to be the one with the long hair, the makeup, you know, just in general.
Bretman Rock
That's your type.
Ms. K
Yes, yes. The more muscular, muscular looking ones. Like, I don't need you to be like, yeah, skincare is amazing, but I don't need you to be doing skincare for 30 minutes or, like, getting ready for two hours or, like, scared of bugs.
Bretman Rock
You know, I think I can get that. But then there's also times where I realized that, like, yes, we are gay couple, and my partner is gonna be gay, too, and have feminine traits slash, like, things that he likes.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And then there are times where I genuinely realize, like, oh, my God, I forgot, like, justice is gay, too. Like, yeah. There are times where I'm like, oh, my God. I forget that he can be feminine and sometimes in some cases, more feminine than me. You know, like gardening girl. He does not get down and dirty like a bad. And then I'm like, oh, my God, stop being a. Like, you know what I mean?
Ms. K
Yeah. But I think it just depends because, like, I am. You are gay. I'm trans.
Bretman Rock
It's just, like, perspective.
Ms. K
Because I wouldn't want my partner to be more girlier than me.
Bretman Rock
Oh, no. For sure. You want a man.
Ms. K
Yes. Yes. I need to be, like, a little girly Pop.
Kat
Yeah. I feel like we're not talking about, like, emotional. Like, sensitive. Like, it's important for a man to be in touch with his emotions.
Ms. K
Yes.
Kat
And be okay to communicate that with us. But also for me, I feel like for you guys as well, a manly man, like, there's nothing that tops that.
Ms. K
Like, yes. Coming home from work with that mouth.
Bretman Rock
Sorry. We have daddy issues.
Ms. K
We have daddy issues.
Bretman Rock
I'm sorry. Like, that's just what I want. I want a daddy.
Kat
Wait, and the guy got, like, a coffee or a cold brew with no sugar or cream. I'd be like, that's a man.
Ms. K
You're like, yeah, the better one.
Kat
I'd be like, you like that, don't you, Cat?
Bretman Rock
You're, like, coming right up.
Kat
I'm like, I have some milk.
Ms. K
Like, you sure the drink is inside right here. Like, here you go.
Kat
Order for Hector.
Ms. K
That'd be so funny.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my God. Wait, Keefer. What is, like, just bouncing off of that. What is, like, a manly drink? Oh, because you're a barista now. What is, like, a drink that, like, a man gets that you're like, honestly, Cat is right.
Kat
Yeah.
Ms. K
A lot of. It's mostly girls. Females that guess like, flavored drinks. A lot of men usually, like. Usually like a freeze a smoothie or a dark coffee.
Bretman Rock
Like a special. Yeah. Or like a black coffee.
Ms. K
Yeah. Or like a just straight espresso shot.
Kat
Oh, that's hot.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
When they're like, can I just get, like, two shots? I'd be like, you know who be getting those?
Ms. K
Italian men.
Kat
Are there other manly traits y'all look for, like, veins?
Ms. K
I love a veiny arm.
Kat
I love big arms.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
I love Hairy men.
Bretman Rock
I love hair.
Kat
Oh, interesting.
Bretman Rock
But I can write a whole thesis about this because, girl, this is so tmi. But I'm literally, like. There's times where, like, I'm literally begging justice not to save Shave his chest, but he. Which I get. It's like, his body, his choice. But, like, I'm always like, sometimes I want to hide, like, my razors and, like, because I'm like, oh, my God, what am I gonna grab when something's cold?
Ms. K
Like, I love a good hairy man.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. And then, like, he. We're, like, both cuddlers. And then sometimes, like, when he shaves his body and it starts going back.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And it's so prickly in the back. I'm like, yeah. Like, I want something, like, fuzzy, like, not something ecstaticy, like, okay. But yeah, I love hair. Like beard, which I love big arms.
Ms. K
My ultimate type would have.
Bretman Rock
I just like a man that makes me feel small.
Ms. K
Smally. Yeah, same. I love a good dad bod.
Kat
I love it.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Yeah.
Ms. K
I love a dad bod.
Bretman Rock
That's what you even. Okay. Sorry to keep talking about my man like this, but there are times where I'm just like, oh, my God, I'm so excited for our 30s because, like, his. But because he's so big and buff now. But I'm like, when that dad bop kicks in, I'm gonna be a little girl. Like, yes.
Ms. K
I love a dad bod with hairy chest and a bald head.
Kat
Oh, she has a tight.
Bretman Rock
I see you with that. I see you with that.
Ms. K
Like, oh, my gosh.
Bretman Rock
You're like, my mouth is lonely. My throat is bored.
Ms. K
All over my mouth. It's watering, girl.
Kat
Yeah. So funny.
Bretman Rock
Okay, what is another dating red flag or tip a red flag.
Kat
Someone who can't communicate is such a big girl.
Bretman Rock
I mean. Yeah, we talked about this already. Like, heights and what we look for. I love a conversationist. Like, I love a guy that just, like, yes. And.
Kat
Or just, like, if he's going through something, if he can't communicate with you, what he needs in that moment and, like, what he's going through that you're like, girl, you're gonna be pulling at strings.
Bretman Rock
Do you guys get nervous for first dates?
Kat
No. I get so excited. I'm like, they're gonna love me. Like, they're so privileged to see me.
Bretman Rock
The only thing that I would say makes me nervous is, like, maybe I'm just such a Leo, but, like, what I'm wearing, like.
Ms. K
Or, like, what you look like today.
Bretman Rock
What I look like because I Got the personality, the questions.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And honestly, the bag down, I got. I would never. You know, also, speaking of bag, please don't go on dates if you're broke. Like, especially if you're the man. Like, girl, I could see a girl, you know, that just wants, like, a free dinner. Like, I will always be team girl. Like, but, like, please don't focus on.
Kat
Your career if that's the case. Like, let's get that. Let's get the bag up.
Bretman Rock
Let's get the bag up. Because, girl, there's. I mean, not everyone's a straight world, but, like, girl, there's so many girls out there in the world. There's so many people out there in the world for you. Like, girl, get your bag up first. Love yourself first and then love.
Kat
Same thing with. With girls. I'm like, girl, if he can't do the basic. The bare minimums.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
Doesn't he be the one?
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
If he really doesn't at all. That's something I've learned in the last, like, two years, is that I need a man who has his together because.
Ms. K
Someone else will accept the whole of you.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Like, it's not admirable to be in someone's through thick and thin, through their broke days and rich days. Like, girl, he's gonna still treat you dirty.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Even in those broke days and the rich days.
Bretman Rock
This is not a dating tip. This is just a me thing. I would say. I would always ask them to pick me up.
Kat
100%.
Bretman Rock
Always ask them to pick me up. Because I think just the trauma of my ex not having a car or, like, anything under his name. Now I'm like, bitch, pick me up. Yeah, I don't care what you're picking me up in, but, bitch, I need to at least know you have something to pick me up in court.
Ms. K
Like, to come over here.
Kat
Rhett and I had this conversation, and I was like, I had to be with a guy who has a nicer car than me, right? But it's like, he just needs to have a car. A skateboard, a bicycle.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
From point A to point B, bitch, have something. I'm sorry. Like, bitch, you should not be going on dates if you don't have shit. I'm sorry. Like, and I'm not even broke. Shaming, bitch. And if you are broke and you feel shame, then I'm sorry. But don't go on dates broke. I cannot. Like, you're not ready. You're not ready for all of this. You're not ready, period. Not even if And I don't care if you don't want me. Like, girl, you're not ready for anything, period. Because a lot of women out there needs a provider and deserves a provider. And if you can't even provide for yourself, how the hell are you gonna provide for other people?
Kat
And it's like everybody's situation's different. But in general, if you're, if you're coming into it and you're expecting them to just give you. That's wrong. Unless you're a woman, obviously. Because like I know this is a.
Bretman Rock
This is an all woman show. Yeah.
Kat
This is for the women. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
If you're the girlies, girls you can date broke. I don't care.
Kat
Yeah.
Ms. K
Do what makes you happy.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, girl, get that free meal.
Ms. K
But don't be complaining. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Do you have anything, Ms. K?
Ms. K
I have one. How. How do you guys feel about like when you guys are talking to a person and then the communication is very like not non existent.
Kat
What does that mean?
Ms. K
Like, but like when you get started, like. Okay, so I would say text and like he wouldn't text back for like a good hour. And it's just be like that the whole entire time. Like, like not like a concept text where like I text back and forth. It's like more of like a. In spaces.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
For me that's like a placeholder.
Ms. K
That's like a placeholder.
Kat
Somebody to entertain me at the moment.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
But I'm not gonna see anything future with them because clearly they have a hard time being consistent.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I would, I don't know, I would kind of question, like, what does he want? Like, because if like he does say.
Ms. K
Like, oh yeah, I want you.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
Like his community, like his action matches whatever he's saying. But like sometimes like the communication there.
Bretman Rock
I don't know because like I think I'm. So I'm speaking for the devil, like at this, in this case because like no, no. Not playing that devil's app.
Ms. K
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bretman Rock
In this case I want to say because I myself too, like have my moments where I am a bad texter. And I will admit that. But it's always. Because especially at the times that I am like, it's always because of work. Like I'm either traveling or like working or just like I don't. If you're busy, the mental capacities will be texting someone in the middle of like a photo shoot. Say that. I think it's very situational. Like did you go in there your first week? Like he was like prompt and then off and then off. Then.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Then that's when I would be like. Okay. Guarded. Like the feelings.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
It's not there anymore. Like, that's when I.
Ms. K
But then every time you guys see each other, it's, like, amazing.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. But if he's always been, like, a busy guy and, like, you understand that boundary of his, then, like, then I could understand that because, like, that was something that I talked about with my boyfriend. Now it's just like, girl, like, we both work so much and, like, communication is key for the both of us. Yeah. But we also both are like, I am a texter. He isn't. And he's a facetimer. I'm not. And I just like, finding the right and also communicating that, like, what is your. I don't know. What is your type of communication?
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You know what I mean?
Kat
I feel like. Oh, sorry.
Ms. K
No, go ahead.
Kat
I feel like it's important if. If that's the case, you have to set the foundation.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Right away.
Kat
Because I feel like in the beginning, if a man wanted to, he would. Because there's so much eager. In the beginning.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
But it's like, in the beginning, he's already starting off like that.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
It's probably not gonna get better, but if it's like you guys are together, you guys are. Know where you're at, then. Yeah, I think it's normal if he's, like, busy or busy.
Ms. K
Yeah. But because I'm a caller too. I'm like, I'll call you, I'll pick up the phone, but I will never text you, so, period.
Kat
Yeah. Maybe it's just like a mutual. Communicate a mutual understanding, then.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Yeah.
Ms. K
Okay, wait. I have a question about Valentine's. What would you like to get? Would you rather have flowers or chocolate?
Kat
Flowers.
Bretman Rock
Flowers.
Ms. K
Flowers. Flowers.
Bretman Rock
Why would you get flowers, too? Why?
Ms. K
I just think it's just more special.
Bretman Rock
Right.
Ms. K
And I don't like chocolate personally, too.
Bretman Rock
Like, I feel like I won't eat the whole chocolate, like, thing. And I. I do love the gesture.
Ms. K
Like, if you got, like.
Bretman Rock
I mean, justice got me calculus. I'm not gonna be like, girl, I don't eat chocolate. Like, why'd you get me that? Like, you know, But I'd be like, oh, my God, I love it.
Kat
I still have my flowers from last year.
Ms. K
Really?
Bretman Rock
They're the first flowers that justice made me. And I kind of want to, like, put it in, like, a acrylic, like, thing.
Kat
You should. That's so pretty.
Ms. K
That is cute.
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Kat
Do you guys get gifts if you have a valentine? Do you get gifts for your valentine?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
What are some gifts you would get them?
Bretman Rock
I pro. Well, Valentine's will probably be passed by this, but like, I was thinking of getting justice like a pair of shoe cute. Just that because I'm always like, girl, I like a pair of shoes that he can keep in my house. Yeah, because he's. Because he always comes over, like after work and Then sometimes he only has, like, his Birkins, and I'm like, okay, girl, we need to get you, like, a house. Shoot for the house.
Kat
Yeah, yeah.
Bretman Rock
Like, when we. Like, when he comes over and we.
Ms. K
Go somewhere, it would honestly. Yeah, it would honestly depend, but I would probably give them, like, an everyday item thing also, though.
Kat
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ms. K
Like a wallet.
Bretman Rock
What about you, cat?
Kat
Last year, I think I got my ex. He loves his dog, so I got his dog drawing, like, the cartoon, and then I got the same. Yeah, yeah. And then I put it on, like, a keychain and a cup and something else, and I made him some, like, chocolate chip cookies.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my God.
Kat
You guys don't know what we did. We went to and we got tattoos. Not matching ones, but they were having a sale.
Ms. K
I remember that.
Kat
Yeah, it was cute. It was a cute date.
Bretman Rock
You got your baking.
Kat
Yeah. Made with love. And then he got, like, seven. Seven.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
That's cute.
Ms. K
How do you feel about men receiving flowers?
Kat
I think it's cute every once in a while, but men. Okay. My thing is, they're not going to appreciate like we do.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
They're going to be like, ugh, this is going to die. Like, what's going on?
Bretman Rock
They'll always say they appreciate it, but I don't think they really appreciate it. Like, how we, like, oh, like, I.
Ms. K
Can make a frame out of this.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I'd be taking all his flowers and, like, pasting it on my. I have literally flowers in here. Yeah.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Like, girl, I'm, like, making jewelry with it. I'm like.
Kat
I'd be saving it. I'd be like, when we get married, the flower girls are gonna flip through.
Bretman Rock
They're gonna fly.
Ms. K
It's like dead flowers.
Bretman Rock
I think.
Kat
I think it's a sweet gesture every once in a while.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
But I would not get my man's flowers all the time because I'm like, he's not gonna appreciate.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I feel like if I did get, like, flowers for a man, it would be for, like, his apartment or.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Like, not like a bouquet, but like a plant.
Kat
Yeah. Would you have a plant?
Bretman Rock
Like a plant? Like a plant or like a cat? You know, like a centerpiece kind of, like, thing like they can put in their kitchen.
Kat
Yeah. Not like a bouquet.
Ms. K
That's what I love giving people sometimes. If I have no gift for you, I'll get you a cactus.
Bretman Rock
That's smart. I love making, like. Well, not. I don't always do it, but I wish I could do it more. Like, I love making, like, from my garden. Like, little. Here's like, okay, like, my garden. And I wish I did it more. I just, like, always forget.
Kat
It's crazy because, like, you just walk outside and there's so many beautiful plants and flowers. But, yeah, you just, like, forget to do it. You just enjoy it.
Bretman Rock
What is, like, what are, like, the questions that you ask on dates?
Kat
Well, I feel like first you're gonna get to know them a little bit through texting. So I feel like in person, it's more off the vibe you're getting from them and kind of go from there.
Ms. K
I. I have. I have a. I have a little scenario.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K
I just created in my head just now. What if the person you're dating has trauma from past relationships, then you shouldn't be dating.
Bretman Rock
Get over your ex first.
Ms. K
No, like, he's already over it.
Kat
Like, seeing therapy.
Ms. K
Yeah. It's just a trauma of, like, trust issues of, like, what's happening or, like, this and that. Like, and then you guys are working things out, and then this boy is like, who are you texting? Clearly nobody. He's just, like, reassuring himself. How would you guys feel about that.
Kat
If he was asking who we're texting?
Ms. K
Yeah, all the time. Oh, just because of his trauma. Like, you know, the trauma.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I would. I would try to understand it, but I feel like if it's starting to get in a way of, like, his. The relationship period and his self esteem, where it's to a point where, like, I feel like he can't even trust me, I would be like, then why are we dating?
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Honestly, like, I would always give it a beat, like, I'm never gonna be like, oh, my God, and make it about me. But then if it's like a constant.
Ms. K
Thing, like, you are very understanding about it.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, I would question it. I would be like, oh, okay, well, I'm not your ex.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I'm not. Like, I wasn't raised like that to cheat. So I mean, like, I would just be very straight up. And I'm like, I think you need to work on this first because it will affect our relationship.
Kat
Do you think you would want to work on it with him or would you want him to go do it himself?
Bretman Rock
I personally don't think I have the patience to work on that with someone personally. Like, because that's a personal question. Like, personally. But I wouldn't, like, hate someone for, like.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Standing by their partner if you know that's your person. Like, yeah. And you're gonna work with them. Thick and thin. But, girl, if it's the first date, and you're already like, who you texting?
Ms. K
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bretman Rock
My mom.
Kat
Crazy. If it's someone I've been seeing and, like, I love them the best way person I would want to. I would want to work on it with them and vice versa. If I was going through it and I would suggest, like, we should.
Ms. K
We should go.
Kat
Because I feel like having a mediator sometimes is really helpful, especially trying to understand each other, where they're coming from, because it could be hard as hell.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I love that. I just. I. I think I went in the question thinking you were asking more of a first date. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of question. But I personally still wouldn't, like, would.
Ms. K
That be considered, like, a red flag.
Kat
Right away, like, first date?
Ms. K
Like. Like, the more you notice it?
Kat
I mean, I feel like everybody has their insecurities.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
I feel like I would probably be like.
Bretman Rock
If.
Kat
Sometimes I'd be like, who's that? You know? But I feel like it's just how you talk about, how you reassure each other.
Bretman Rock
I also will say there is a fine line of like. Of, like, having your own insecurities and then, like, dealing with it without, like, it affecting your partner.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Do you know what I mean? Like, because there are some times where, like, I would feel insecure about something that my ex made me feel about, but I don't need to make that an issue with my new one. My boyfriend now.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You know, because I. I feel like he would just think I'm comparing them when really, I'm really just like, okay, girl, like, my ex did this to me.
Kat
You're seeing pattern.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K
Oh, wow.
Kat
That's.
Ms. K
Never thought about that.
Kat
I feel like that's. My therapist told me, especially about my ex. It's like, she's like, well, maybe he's seeing the pattern. I'm like, because he was married before. She's like, maybe he's seeing the pattern. And, like, it was like a light bulb. I was like, yeah.
Bretman Rock
And it's not necessarily, like, comparing you. It's more of, like, a projection of this trauma that they've been.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
You know what I mean?
Kat
Your body and your mind just like, okay, I've seen this. It wasn't good. How do I get out of it?
Ms. K
Okay.
Kat
Because you answer it. Sorry.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Were you asking us or.
Ms. K
No, it was just like.
Bretman Rock
I was like, how do you think about it?
Ms. K
I honestly wouldn't go. If it's like a constant of them asking, like, who am I talking to? Or like, this and that.
Bretman Rock
It's a problem.
Ms. K
It's a problem. At the end of the day, it's like, why are you with me if you can't trust me? Trust is like a big thing.
Kat
I feel like Ms. K, I feel like you're such a mysterious person in general.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Where you, like, you like, you like your business is your business.
Bretman Rock
Yes.
Kat
Whereas for me, I'm just like an open book with my man.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Or like, honestly, anybody, they can ask me any question. I'm like, yeah. But I feel like it's also just like how you are personally. I feel like, yeah, personally, you are like a more quiet, reserved person. But like, for me, I'm just like, my mom's asked me. I'm like, you go through my phone like I don't give a fudge. But I think it's just how people are. Like, everybody's just.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Everybody's like, privacy.
Bretman Rock
That's true.
Kat
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it.
Bretman Rock
I even the same. I'm like, same with Justice. I'm like, girl, look at my phone. I have two phones. But just don't look at my emails because, like, you don't need to know Bretman Rock's business. You're dating Bretman, not Bretman Rock. You don't need to know how much I'm making.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Like, girl, that's weird. But, yeah, he's. He's so. We're both so secure in our own ways. And we're both. We have our own little insecurities here and there, but, like, we don't project.
Ms. K
Okay.
Kat
Yeah, that's good.
Ms. K
How about like, when a married couple does not share a bank?
Kat
I'm prove approve that.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Well, yes.
Ms. K
Really. You know, like, because a lot of marriage people, like, does have a bank. Like, joint bank account.
Kat
I mean.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
But, like, I think you should also have your own.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, yeah, no, that's not even in the question for me.
Ms. K
You wouldn't.
Bretman Rock
I would. Not at all. I'm like, I think it's also just me growing up broke. Like, I'm sorry, not to sound selfish, but my money is my money. I work so hard. Like, I've been working since I was 15. Like, you don't have access to this.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And girl, that's even the first thing we talked about, like, on anything. That's why I asked. Like, what are the first questions you would ask on a date? Or like, boundaries. My boundary is, bitch, that prenup will be signed, okay? Because I don't give a fuck. I don't care. I don't Even care if I date someone, if I marry someone richer.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
Than me.
Bretman Rock
Like, girl, I will sign that prenup because what's mine is mine, so yours is yours.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And maybe that's just me. It's not really the traditional way of like, getting married, but also, like, I don't know, like, my mom also just instilled it in me. Like, girl, sign up, prenup.
Kat
Yeah. It's smart, though. And I feel like. I feel like it's so important to have separate because I feel like for me going into a relationship, I'm always gonna have my own money.
Ms. K
Yeah.
Kat
But I like to be with the man who's a provider as well.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
I want him to, like, want to provide and want to be paying for things and whatnot.
Ms. K
He's like, let's use your money first and then mine.
Kat
Yeah. I'm like. I'm like, yeah, he wants to give me his credit card. Like, I'd be like, all for it. But I think as soon as your bank accounts go together, that's where I'm like, no, no. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
No, I would never share a bank unless we have, like, children and we had like a savings for them.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Then I could see that being.
Ms. K
That would be like the only joint account. Yeah, yeah.
Bretman Rock
Because we made that together. That child. But yeah, other than that, like, no.
Kat
And the day, it's a Protect yourself.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. There's also special occasions where I would understand that, like, obviously if you buy a house together, then you're gonna need a bank. Joint bank account.
Kat
Or if someone's like a stay at home mom.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
But me, me personally, these are all me. These are all personal.
Kat
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Questions and answers. So please, if you guys think differently, I don't care. Work. Should we get do products of the day? All right. Oh, okay. Can you go first?
Ms. K
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Because I want to know what the fuck.
Ms. K
Okay. Let me see where I bought this. Okay. So I went. I was at North Shore the other day, and I was in Haleiwa Town. Old town, and I found this place called cs Celestial Natural Foods is where they only, like, sell, like any like, homemade products. They have raw white honey in there.
Bretman Rock
Like, it's like holistic products.
Ms. K
Yes. Like homegrown, like for like farmer's market. And I found this pill. They had like a cute little pill sections for like targeted areas. So like, they have like one for early morning allergies, for runny nose, like, coughing, things like that. Just targets like one thing in your body.
Bretman Rock
This one Is relieves runny nose due to allergies.
Ms. K
Yes. And I have that a lot. And I've been using it. I've been only taking one. It's like this little tiny pill and it tastes like candy. You know, like those bracelet candies.
Bretman Rock
Imagine it's that.
Ms. K
No, that's what I'm saying. I'm like. But every time I take it, 10 minutes later it leaves, period.
Bretman Rock
Do you want to read what it says? I kind of want Ms. K to read it.
Ms. K
Not room. Not room. Mariatisum.
Bretman Rock
Okay. It's natrium, Natrum, Natrum muriaticum.
Ms. K
Yeah, but how do you pronounce a Ah, right?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. No. Okay. Period. Grab your.
Kat
Oh my gosh.
Ms. K
But it's really good, you guys. I recommend it if you guys ever.
Bretman Rock
Going spell it to them because I'm pretty sure we both said it wrong. Just in case you guys are actually interested. Okay.
Ms. K
It's spelled N A T R U M space M U R I A T C U M. It's made in France. So, you know, this shit is only organic.
Bretman Rock
Okay. My products is something that you guys always see me wear in my Instagram stories. Especially if I'm making it in the morning. It's my bonnet. I feel like I always get asked about my hair, my hair care, my hair routine and things of that nature. But honestly, the number one thing that truly has helped me with my hair and my hair journey has been hair protection. And especially when I'm sleeping. I am the type that I can't sleep with my hair, like freely Willy. Yeah, I can't because I. It's my first, like couple years, like having long hair. So I'm still like. Like, I still don't know how to have long hair. So sometimes I will sleep on my hair and my neck will get stuck like this. Because that's how it is.
Ms. K
Or it would get stuck in your back.
Bretman Rock
Yes. And me and my hair are best friends, but my skin and my hair are not best friends. If my hair is like in my face while I'm sleeping, I will break out. Like, I. It doesn't matter. And I know I don't wash my hair every day, but it doesn't even matter if I wash my hair often. I just break out my hair and my skin is just not friends. And this just helps with that. I get these from Tick Tock shop. Honestly, I just. I don't. I can't. I can't even find the Tick Tock shop anymore. I don't know if they got like banned or like, anything. But I also like. Yeah, well, TikTok shop is still here, but like the Tick Tock shop that I got it from because I tried to look for it, I can't find it. But these are reversible. It was a home made business. Like, it was a small business and it's reversible and I just love it so much and it helps me protect my hair.
Kat
That's so Carrie.
Ms. K
Yeah, I'm glad you do that because I don't even do that. I just go sleep and I wake up the next morning, my hair is.
Bretman Rock
All over the place, period. Okay, I'm going to ask the question of the week.
Ms. K
Okay.
Bretman Rock
And then I think I'm going to have Kat read some of the answers from last episode because she was the one that asked the question. My question of the week. It's not really a question, but I'm turning the mic on to the audience.
Ms. K
Drumroll, please.
Bretman Rock
Please tell us about your worst first dates. Oh.
Kat
I told you guys.
Ms. K
I told you guys. Mine's already.
Bretman Rock
Oh, true.
Ms. K
Oh, yeah, the whole bringing Bretman's palette had me sign.
Kat
That was a bad one.
Ms. K
That was my first date ever.
Bretman Rock
Ever.
Ms. K
Yes.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my God, I feel like I ruined it.
Ms. K
No, it's okay. It's not your fault.
Bretman Rock
I'm sorry. I'm so famous. I'm kidding so hard. So, yeah, tell us all about your first date. Horror story. Not have to be horror stories, but like, tell us about it, please. And I would love to read it on the next podcast episode.
Kat
Yes, Harry. And let me read some of these.
Bretman Rock
Yes.
Kat
So when I saw earlier. I don't know where it is. Let me see. Let me see the username.
Bretman Rock
You can.
Kat
Okay, well, I don't know where this one is, but she said it was. She'll know who she is. She said it was raspberry. Oh, no. Lady finger raspberry cheesecake.
Bretman Rock
80 finger raspberry.
Kat
I looked it up. It looks so good, and I'm like, I want to make it.
Bretman Rock
Oh, make it for Miss Cake.
Ms. K
Wait, what?
Kat
Yeah, it's like so lady fingers on the. I don't. I can't.
Ms. K
Like a Butterfinger.
Kat
No, it's. It's what they use in tiramisu. Like, to do the late. The layers. Okay.
Ms. K
Okay.
Kat
But also, tiramisu was a big one. A lot of people are saying tiramisu. Yeah, a lot of people are saying hello. Hello.
Ms. K
Wait, what video is this from?
Bretman Rock
Cat's question. Favorite dessert.
Ms. K
Okay.
Kat
Life with Air 808089 said favorite dessert. Lavender cupcake. Yum.
Bretman Rock
Love a lavender cupcake.
Ms. K
I've never heard of that before.
Kat
Ms. Jessie at Jess or J J e s s I e e A favorite dessert is flan.
Bretman Rock
Leche flan or just flaw?
Kat
Just flan.
Ms. K
What kind of flan though? There's different type of flaws, you know. I didn't even know girl.
Bretman Rock
Me neither. I only know leche flan.
Ms. K
I only thought there was a leche flan.
Bretman Rock
That was me. When I saw Creme brulee for the first time, I'm like, is this oh.
Kat
Name is C y a n a r e n e e 3322. She said I love tres leches cake.
Bretman Rock
Thank you so much to everyone that left a comment.
Ms. K
Yes.
Bretman Rock
If you guys want a shout out on the next episode, please comment down below. Your worst first date. Yeah, Ms. K. Where can they find you? Girl?
Ms. K
You guys can find me at mis.
Bretman Rock
K a a y and you already know about bitch when you see one. Everything is at Bremenrock and every podcast thing ever is at the baddest radio everywhere. I will see you guys next episode. Bye Beach. I'll see you next Thursday. Yeah. Don't forget to follow rate and like you, you can follow me bretmanrock on everything and follow the podcast at the baddest radio on all social media. Bye Peach.
Kat
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DaBaddest Radio: Episode Summary - "What Not To Do On Dates"
Released on February 20, 2025, "What Not To Do On Dates" is an engaging episode of DaBaddest Radio hosted by Bretman Rock, featuring co-hosts Ms. K and Kat. The trio delves into the intricacies of dating, highlighting common pitfalls and offering insightful tips to navigate romantic relationships successfully.
The episode kicks off with a candid conversation about the role of eye contact in dating. Bretman Rock shares his personal challenges with maintaining eye contact, especially when nervous or interested:
In contrast, Ms. K emphasizes her appreciation for strong eye contact, highlighting it as a sign of confidence and interest:
This discussion underscores the varying comfort levels individuals have with eye contact, influencing their dating experiences.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to identifying and understanding red flags in dating. The hosts discuss the importance of setting boundaries to maintain healthy relationships. Ms. K recounts a particularly uncomfortable date where her date unexpectedly referenced Bretman’s palette, revealing his familiarity with Bret’s personal life:
Bretman emphasizes financial responsibility as a critical factor, advising listeners against dating individuals who are financially unstable:
Kat adds that a lack of financial stability can hinder a relationship's potential:
Effective communication is highlighted as a cornerstone of successful relationships. The trio discusses the pitfalls of poor communication, such as infrequent texting and unclear intentions. Bretman shares his experiences with partners who struggle with consistent communication:
Ms. K points out that inconsistent communication can signal deeper issues within a relationship:
Kat emphasizes the necessity of establishing communication preferences early in the relationship to avoid misunderstandings:
The hosts openly discuss their preferences and deal-breakers in potential partners. Ms. K expresses her attraction to physically strong and traditionally masculine traits:
Bretman reflects on the dynamics within his own relationship, balancing traditional gentlemanly behaviors with modern relationship roles:
These personal insights provide listeners with a glimpse into the hosts' ideals and expectations in relationships.
A lighter segment of the episode focuses on preferences for Valentine's Day gifts. The hosts debate the merits of giving flowers versus chocolates, sharing their personal inclinations:
Kat adds that while flowers are a heartfelt gesture, chocolates might not always be appreciated by all:
This discussion offers practical advice for listeners planning thoughtful Valentine's Day gestures.
In an engaging exchange, the hosts share their disastrous first date experiences, providing humor and relatability. Ms. K recounts her awkward first date where her date knew too much about Bretman Rock:
Bretman humorously apologizes for the incident, highlighting the cringe-worthy moment:
Kat also shares a story of a mismatched dessert choice, adding to the camaraderie over shared dating mishaps.
Towards the end of the episode, the conversation shifts to financial boundaries within relationships. Bretman stresses the importance of maintaining separate finances unless there are shared responsibilities like children:
Kat concurs, advocating for financial independence and cautioning against merging finances too quickly:
Ms. K reinforces the necessity of financial stability as a foundation for a healthy relationship:
The episode concludes with the hosts encouraging listeners to set clear boundaries, prioritize effective communication, and be mindful of red flags in dating. By sharing their personal experiences and preferences, Bretman Rock, Ms. K, and Kat provide valuable insights into building and maintaining healthy romantic relationships.
Notable Quotes:
DaBaddest Radio’s "What Not To Do On Dates" episode offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and practical advice, making it a must-listen for anyone navigating the complexities of modern dating.