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Bretman Rock
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Ms. K (Kiefer)
Hey, guys. Hello, everybody.
Bretman Rock
It is Thursday yet again. On Wednesdays, we wear pink, and on Thursday, we wear clown.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I love that.
Bretman Rock
Do you believe that birds of a feather flock together, Ms. Kayla?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I believe so.
Bretman Rock
I feel like the clowns joke around.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Together, Honestly, you know, I have a fear of clowns.
Bretman Rock
Really?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I do.
Bretman Rock
When did that start?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Honestly, it was a movie, and then I went into the whole serial killer. You know, there was a serial killer, like, about a clown.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And then that's when I was like, okay. Clowns are.
Bretman Rock
You're not a clown, though. You're a jester.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I am? Yeah.
Bretman Rock
She's a jestery queen. I'm a creepy clown.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Well, if you guys didn't know, we went to spirit Halloween. Oh, wait, before anything, guys, it is October.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know. Happy holiday October. October.
Bretman Rock
I know last week's episode isn't technically a spooky UKI one, but there is no way I'm gonna film five episodes of. Because I think there's five Thursdays this October.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, there is.
Bretman Rock
Can you believe it?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And Halloween's gonna be a Friday this year.
Bretman Rock
I know. It's gonna be extra Cute Friday. Do you know what you're gonna be for Halloween already?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I want to be.
Bretman Rock
Wait, cue the intro. Bratman to Earth. Earth to Bratman. Girl, you already know who it is. Ms. K, you were saying?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, so I want to be Mimikyu for Halloween. Do you know who Mimikyu is?
Bretman Rock
Mimikyu?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, it's the one that mimics. It's a Pokemon. Oh, yeah. It's the one that mimics all of the Pokemons. And the lore behind it is, like. It's just. It just wants to be accepted by everyone. That's why it mimics everybody.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my gosh.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
No one like. Yeah, but it's.
Bretman Rock
What does Mimi Q look like? Can you pull it up?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's like a big sack, and it looks like Pikachu.
Bretman Rock
Oh, like a sock.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Like a sack.
Bretman Rock
A sack. Well, while she's looking that up, I'm not gonna say what me and Cleo are doing this year, but it is her year to pick. Every year, y' all always come for me and say that. I always, like, pick the characters. No, girl, we take turns. And this year, she picked her character and the what we're referencing. So don't even try to come for me, because people are always like, I hate when adults make themselves the main character and the kids are the side character. I'm like, girl, last year, it was Ezekiel's pick. Actually, he wanted to do inside out, and we just assigned what was assigned to us. And I always let the kids pick first. The only one where Cleo did not pick was obviously when she was the genie.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Aladdin. She had to be.
Bretman Rock
I'm sorry. She wanted a phone. I was like, okay, girl, you won't.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Get to work for it.
Bretman Rock
You're gonna be Genie or what? And she just. She didn't want to be Jasmine. So it's like, so who are you gonna be? Aladdin? The monkey? The carpet?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
The tiger. She wanted to be the tiger.
Bretman Rock
She wanted to be the tiger. Yeah. She didn't want to be Jasmine that day, girl. I think you guys are forgetting that Cleo is a Halloween baby. Like, Cleo loves, like, creepy things. She wants to be bloody. She's not really, like, a girly girl type of girl.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, she is really not.
Bretman Rock
She never was. So it's like, I don't know why y' all want her to be Jasmine so bad. She don't want to be Jasmine, and she already had her frozen era. Anyways, let me know if you guys want to do an episode with Cleo.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
This year for her Halloween.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, this episode sounds right. Kiefer, what are we doing this episode?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I think we're talking about some. I totally forgot conspiracy theories. Oh, but look, this is what Mimiki looks like before we move on. Yes, this is what Mimiki looks like.
Bretman Rock
Oh, okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
She's like, it's gonna be cute. It's gonna be cute.
Bretman Rock
Mimikia.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, Mimikia.
Bretman Rock
Also, I don't know if you guys. I would just like to. Obviously. Let me take a moment real quick. I would like to do a public apology that the last three videos were. Were blurry as fuck. It truly was giving 2016 Bretman Rock when ants got inside my camera and it would not focus on anything. And you could do.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, I remember that camera.
Bretman Rock
I remember that Bretman rock. And I just feel like I owe you guys an apology for the last three episodes. I love the content that we made, but the content that we put out was just not it. Like, we had so much fun filming the last two episodes, like Girl and the drunk one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I may have. I may have.
Bretman Rock
Ms. K actually has a public apology to do as well.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I would like to publicly apologize to Bretman for clogging his bathroom because now he has to do a full on construction on it.
Bretman Rock
Right, Right. The only reason why I'm not too pressed at it is because I feel like it's one of those things that was inevitable. Like, we've had problems and issues with that bathroom for so long. So if it wasn't Ms. Kitchen was going to be another person.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was going to be worse.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, it was. You know what I mean? Like, it could have been Kat who took a fat dump. It could have been me. But I don't. I don't use that bathroom anyway. There's no way it could have been me. It could have been, like any house guest that could have. It was a ticking time bomb, really. And I'm just glad that we learned two things, guys. If you are not maintaining your water heater and clearing it out once a year, do that and.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, you're supposed to do that.
Bretman Rock
Yes, bitch, because your water heater needs to be flushed out, girl.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do you know how long you haven't cleaned your heater yet?
Bretman Rock
No, I'm actually. No. The last time I was actually Uncle Yancy when he painted my house, which was two years ago.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay?
Bretman Rock
So it was still due for a motherfucking clear out anyways. And then the second one that we learned was. Well, three lessons actually, but I won't bore you. The second one that we learned is that your pipes also have to be serviced here and there. So if your pipes haven't been serviced. My pipes need to be serviced.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my God. Sorry.
Bretman Rock
Sorry. I had to.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I was like, huh?
Bretman Rock
My pipes need a real deep cleaning asap. And I'm not talking about my house pipes. Wait, hold on. You guys clean out your pipes there. And then the last tip or lesson that we learned was actually for my business manager. I don't know if everybody. This will relate to everybody, but my business manager was like, girl, sometimes it's better to do things just out of pocket. So, girl, I literally had to pay out of pocket for this. I didn't even have to use my insurance because we ran the numbers and over time, I'm gonna end up paying more if we go to the insurance. So sometimes things are meant to be paid. That's what I learned.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Wow.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. So without further ado, bye, Andrew. Also, shout out to Andrew for fixing my camera and the mic.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, he drove an hour and 30 minutes just to be here for 10 minutes.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, an hour and 30 minutes just to be Here for five minutes, you guys. Like, literally.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Bye, Andrew.
Bretman Rock
Bye, Andrew. We love you. I keep saying we're gonna have to interview Andrew one day, but we never fucking do. Andrew, if you're watching this episode, you're next. You're Next. So like Ms. K said, we are doing conspiracy theory, and I Feel like a dumb bitch because I asked Ms. K to do a research. We both brought our own conspiracy theories. And we're also gonna be reading conspiracy theories that you guys sent via email. And I love the fact that, like, literally two people listened. I asked for conspiracy theories. So many people sent in ghost stories. So I was going to do two conspiracy theory videos and ghost stories, but I'm like, it's giving one conspiracy theory video, and next week we're going to start the ghost stories. Because nobody has conspiracy theories.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
No, because, like, I was. I literally was, like, searching it up on, like, Instagram and, like, YouTube, TikTok, in Google, everything, and. And a lot of ghost stories comes up, and it's like. It's like there's this thing about, like, conspiracy theory where it's like it has to be, like, a little scary.
Bretman Rock
Spooky.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Spooky.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Supposed to be, right?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Some conspiracy theories as simple as, like, the Pringles logo. The Pringles logo. No, that's more of like, something that you like. I think there's a word.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Placebo.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, not placebo. Bitch. There's a word for that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Anyways, before we go into that, we have to get to the drinks.
Bretman Rock
Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I'm A little session.
Bretman Rock
Yes, we're gonna. Before we get into the conspiracy theories, let's do our little segment. I might skip my segment today because, girl, I really haven't been writing in my journal.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's okay. It's okay.
Bretman Rock
It's called the Mandela effect.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay.
Bretman Rock
We should go through some Mandela effect stuff too.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
There's a lot.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Anyways, Ms. Kaylee, so I saw this drink on TikTok or I think Instagram reels, and I wanted to try. And I've been wanting to try it, but I was like, I feel like this place is the perfect place to try it. So it's basically coke and chocolate, and it's supposed to taste like Tootsie Roll.
Bretman Rock
Oh, I love Tootsie Roll. I hate Coke.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Really? So just mix it up.
Bretman Rock
One thing I love and one thing I hate.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So mix together chocolate and coke. So let's see.
Bretman Rock
Watch this be the first nasty thing you make.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know.
Bretman Rock
Wait, Keith episode. Can you make a Halloween themed. Even though this one does give Halloween.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my God. You know what I always wanted to try? Have you seen that latte with the bagoong?
Bretman Rock
Ew. What?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Or like, I think it's petite.
Bretman Rock
Okay, let's make that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. Yes.
Bretman Rock
Okay. All right, y', all, let's taste this tootsie. Roll drink.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It does taste like. Wait, wait. Oh, my God. Cat, you want to try it?
Bretman Rock
Cat, you have to try it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You have to think. Wait, it's.
Bretman Rock
Wait, it does taste like Tootsie Roll. Wait, use the straw cap because the. The chocolate underneath. No, it does. Wait, tuck in the mic.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It tastes like it.
Bretman Rock
See? A culinary student.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So you guys. You guys need to try this. And I like how it took out the. The fizz.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, it did. Did you have any tea for us this week, or should we just go in?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I'm. I just have a little tea. It's like, just. Congratulations to the. All the poppy girls for, you know, giving out their albums out. Yes.
Bretman Rock
Let's have a quick talk. Let's have a quick talk.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay, wait, so Cardi B.
Bretman Rock
Love her love. I'm sorry. I love. I can't even hate.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I've been listening to the one with Lizzo and Selena.
Bretman Rock
Go.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, there's the one. It's like, kind of my anthem.
Bretman Rock
I love the Lizzo one and the Kelani one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my God.
Bretman Rock
I love the. The first song with Summer.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Summer. Yeah, girl.
Bretman Rock
I. I love it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And they did a reboot for wap, and it's a clean version. They did. Yes. It's in the bottom. The very. But, like, the second to the last, it says wap, and I was like, oh, is this like a. Like a part two of the wop? But no, it's literally. They just made it cleaner.
Bretman Rock
Ah. Okay. I need to.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Wait.
Bretman Rock
How have I not listened?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Have you listened to that, Cat? It's. It's kind of cute. It's kind of like.
Bretman Rock
Is it a bonus? I feel like it's a bonus.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I think it's a bonus.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Megan, thee stallion.
Bretman Rock
Seen that one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And Ms. Doja Cat just gave her her album to us.
Bretman Rock
What's your favorite one? Gorgeous. I'm Gorgeous is gonna be one of the songs of the year, I think.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Girl, it's 806.
Bretman Rock
I'm sorry. Like the music video last night. Oh, yeah. Ms. K came over last night with my friend Nikki, who you guys will meet. We need Nikki here, girl.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know, she was just asking me about, like, when are you guys going to interview us? And I was like, I'll let Brett know.
Bretman Rock
I feel like you guys. You guys need to meet my friends, because I feel like they're like. I feel like it'll explain why I'm amazing because I have amazing friends. Like, I really do. Ms. Kat steals my friends. Ms. K steals my friend.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know, there's this one time. I was like, driving Nikki. I was like, nikki, can I just say something? And she was like, what? I was like, thank you for being my friend.
Bretman Rock
Literally, my two friends, Jeanette and Kat, moved in together. Yeah. And now Ms. K and Nikki are literally sisters. More sisters than me. And I'm like, nikki, you grew up with me.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
We bonded over being trans. And she's trans as well as well. Yeah. Beautiful.
Bretman Rock
And Jeanette is whenever me and Kat is like, the lesbians. That's them. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what else? What else came out? Well, I. We've already talked about it, but Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah. Still on repeat. I'm sorry, but I think so. I want to show some love to my hair twin. In my head, we're hair twins. But Ms. Olivia Dean. I haven't talked about Miss Olivia, but.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my gosh, yes. Olivia Dean died.
Bretman Rock
I'm ready to die. Who put you on, Olivia? You. Oh, here. Yeah, actually, Brian Miller put me on to Olivia. Oh, yes. He put me on to Olivia. So, like, probably two months before she started, like, blowing up.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know what's so funny? I got everyone to Olivia at work. I was really like, play her song.
Bretman Rock
It's just because her music is so easy to listen to. So vibey, patchy and timeless. Like, honestly, you could have told me those songs came out in the 90s. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. And her whole aesthetic is so. I just love her. I love somebody that knows their brand, their sound, their music, their art, and.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Just her in general.
Bretman Rock
Have you been liking any other things? What else came out this week?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But also. Yeah, nothing else came up. But I just want to say congratulations to all our Filipinos out there who's winning every single thing right now.
Bretman Rock
Talk about it. Talk, talk about it. Talk about it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Ms. Jessica Sanchez just won America's Got Talent.
Bretman Rock
Yes.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Congrats, Jessica.
Bretman Rock
I really wish we weren't dressed like clowns. Yeah, I know. I know.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Like, just thanking you. And Ms. VJ from Pageant Runway. This one, it's just amazing.
Bretman Rock
Like I told y' all last week, yes, she makes tea.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
She makes great tv. She's amazing. She just gets it.
Bretman Rock
Like, I, I, I. We told y'. All, we told y', all, we told.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Y', all, don't sleep on us. Don't sleep on us Filipinos. But anyways, yeah.
Bretman Rock
Filipinos have been everywhere. Speaking of Filipinos everywhere. I know. We were talking about Beanie going to Coachella. They saw our clip.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
They did.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, I saw. And they. I think. I think M like. Or yeah, M like, quote tweeted it and was like, I love you guys.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, I love you.
Bretman Rock
So we will be in the friends and family thing. Yeah, my Beanie Girls. If I'm not in the friends and.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Family list, bitch, I need to be crunk inside that box. Like, go on, please, girl.
Bretman Rock
I will send y' all back to Isla Napa Tropico, girl, like, if you don't put me in the.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Ugh.
Bretman Rock
Anyway, I'm kidding.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Now you're going over there.
Bretman Rock
Like, I will scam my way in there regardless if you put me in the list or not. I'll find my way.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
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Bretman Rock
You guys. If you guys see me looking through my iPad so much, it's because I found a good ass conspiracy theory earlier and I don't know where I put it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do you want me to start?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Should we just get started with the conspiracy theory?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Wait, let me see if I have something to read for you guys today. Okay. I'm gonna read something very empowering because I love. I love where I was on this day. Thank you. July 26, 2025.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
That's a great way to start a sentence, really.
Bretman Rock
Today I feel fire in my heart. I'm truly feeling all things powerful this morning. I feel empowered and ready to work my ass off again after spoiling myself. I feel like I want to work my ass off even more so that I can keep on spoiling myself even more. I got a bag yesterday which will be a part of my journal. What? Oh, I got a bag yesterday which will be a part of my journey of life. It's my 27th years old birthday. What the fuck? It's my 27 years old birthday bag that I bought myself and it's gonna start and I'm gonna start a huge empire with it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
What was the bag?
Bretman Rock
Remember what we did on July 25th? The day before that?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
24Th.
Bretman Rock
July 25th. The day before that?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
The 24th that I read that.
Bretman Rock
Thing is, the thing is the 26th. That's why I'm saying the 25th. And you keep going the day before it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You say the 25th.
Bretman Rock
The day before that, which is the 26th before.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's after, isn't it, Ms. K?
Bretman Rock
The entry is the 26th and I'm saying the 25th before. Oh, okay. Do you know what we did the 25th? Yes.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Did we go to Alamo? Yes, to her, man. Did you buy that black market?
Bretman Rock
Yes. That was when I bought my big Kelly. I think it's like voyage. It's like, yeah, it's my big black Kelly. It's my first. What do they call it in Hermes because you're your only quota? It's my first quarter bag that I got this year. I will be getting a second quota bag this year, and I will let y' all know. But for my 27th birthday, I got me a big Kelly voyage, and she's been everywhere with me.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I honestly thought that they were so funny to me because prior to that, I don't know if you're going to put this in, but prior to that day, Brett was, like, complaining to Kat about how, like, broke. He.
Bretman Rock
Was, like, broke in a sense of, like, I spent so much in Japan, like, that my business managers were like, yes. If you spend another dime, like, and you're like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And. And then he goes.
Bretman Rock
And then I'm like, yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And you were like, yeah, Cat, we need to go back to our, like, you know, our saving money era again.
Bretman Rock
I put a limit in not only Cat's card. My. My three cards. A limit, girl. But after I put that and after.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I bought, and then he goes, okay, this is my budget. Says the number. Okay. And then I was like, okay. We were just sitting down there, and then I don't know. And then we ended up in the cashier, and all of a sudden, I seen a number, and I was like, oh, my God. That's, like, three times more. The budget.
Bretman Rock
The budget that I said. And I haven't bought anything since, honestly, so I'm very proud of myself. It's giving. I'm ready for my second quota back, like, maybe. So if my essay is hearing this.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But prior to that, when we were over there, he was already asking for, like, the next ones.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I was like, if you have a green one, a purple one, or a.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Blue one, let me know. Let me know. But, yeah, that day was amazing.
Bretman Rock
That day was so fun. And we spent it with the nieces, and we need to spend time. We need to spend more time with the nieces.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was the day that I think they were, like, talking about it. It was the day that they want to be like. They were like, we want to live like this.
Bretman Rock
We look so kind. Like, we never addressed this.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Like, you Loki looks so cute. I make everything. I was literally wearing a wig before this, and I was like, how the frick did Brett make this wig look good? Because.
Bretman Rock
Which wig? This wig.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
The. The blonde wig that I had on earlier.
Bretman Rock
Oh, I'm. Well, I don't know. I think it's my complexion. It's the. It's the.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
The three shade lighter than gold.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, this is N13 tier tier foundation.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Maybe you really do be giving like Birds of the Prey.
Bretman Rock
What's that?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Birds of prey. It's like a movie about like the superhero girlies. Like Harley Quinn, the Banji Girl.
Bretman Rock
Oh, yes. I haven't watched that movie.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's a cute movie.
Bretman Rock
Okay, should we get started? Yeah, I feel like we keep saying we're gonna get started.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay, we should get started.
Bretman Rock
Okay. Ms. K brought in her own conspiracy theory, so.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes, well, one of my conspiracy theories was I really like more of like a fork lore conspiracy theory.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Spell cuz like I hate that. I cannot the girl that's the Philippines. I don't know how they do that all the time, but every time they do it, I cry, I crack the up.
Bretman Rock
And the funny thing is the last time I went to the. Okay, wait, can you explain to them what we're talking about?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, about like the. The joke.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So in the Philippines they do this thing where like if they. After they say a word like especially like a. Like an English word, they say, well, like an exaggeration after. Because exaggeration. And they would just do that in like a mid serious sentence. And I'm like, what?
Bretman Rock
They be like, I'm just feeling a little overwhelmed right now.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Overwhelmed.
Bretman Rock
That was so scary. My heart started palpitating.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Palpitating.
Bretman Rock
Okay, we're never gonna get. We haven't said one conspiracy yet. Okay, wait, before anything. I already said, I keep saying this thank you to the lady at spirit Halloween, because we asked her, when you think of conspiracy theories, what would you wear? And she was like, these.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, well, she wasn't listening. The clowns. It was more of like.
Bretman Rock
She was like one of these, like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was like one of like.
Bretman Rock
She took us to a wall.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, yeah. She pointed us to a wall and then we like looked to the other wall. But. Thank you so much, queen.
Bretman Rock
All right, for real this time. Go.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Do you guys believe in dragons?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. Okay. I was gonna be like, oh, you don't.
Bretman Rock
But okay, let me just. Okay, let me say one more time, one more time.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do you guys believe in dragons?
Bretman Rock
Actually, no, I don't.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay.
Bretman Rock
Because that's crazy because I don't.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do you know why they used to exist?
Bretman Rock
I mean, I. I said I don't believe in them, so I don't know why they used to exist is because.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Have you ever noticed, like, how each culture back then has a representative and one dragon? Yes, they're all different. But why back then was a dragon like this? Big lizard thing. A thing when they couldn't even talk to each other. But like provenance, like it's not really like a thing because there's no bones for it. But I was like doing my little research on why like, you know why dragons doesn't have bones or like any fossils is because they can fly and you know, like birds bones are a little bit more fragile, so they don't have time to like fossilize.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So since the dragons could fly, they think that they had this type of bones. That's why there's no. They don't have time to fossilize. So there's no, you know, bones that's like buried on the ground.
Bretman Rock
So you think like when dragons died they just poof?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. And I think it's due to like exact. And what is that called? Extinctions. Huh. Extinct.
Bretman Rock
Extinction, yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, so you like over killed? Yeah, over hunters.
Bretman Rock
I could gather that. Because like girl, like if big ass dinosaurs existed and then flying. Yeah, I don't really. I doubt that there was even maybe a world or time in earth where dragons did exist. Maybe dragons were the original dinosaurs. Like, you know what I mean?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
That's why what I'm saying. I'm like, girl, was there like a time where like humans and like dinosaurs lived together, you know, like civilization wise? I don't know, because there was. Oh my God. There was a painting. I was on TikTok the other day. There was a painting. There was like a like an old painter that this guy was talking about and like how in the back there was this two long neck dinosaurs that was like painted. And who would have like told him about like long neck dinosaurs when they didn't even find the fossils yet, but they were like using them as like, like rides like camels?
Bretman Rock
Yeah, yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And then you just see like two dinosaur that long necks. And it could be dragons as well.
Bretman Rock
Well, you don't know also because maybe you know how we used like back in the day when I was in like intermediate, like back in days, Casey. Well, not like when I was in intermediate. Like back in the day we used to draw dicks everywhere. And like how do you know that wasn't like a child? Well, how do you know that wasn't just an artist being like, oh, I'm gonna draw a dick over here. And then he was like, I'm gonna make them into dinosaurs.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was a serious painting. It was like a painting of a murderous person like back in the day.
Bretman Rock
Okay, so your theory or your conspiracy theory is that you think dragons existed because no.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Because this is my other conspiracy theory. Have you ever heard about the ice wall in Antarctica?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
About how, like, there's a big wall where no human have ever, like, crossed it, and behind that big, thick wall of ice is a civilization, and I feel like all of the civilizations that went missing out of nowhere are over there, and also the dragons are over there, period. Like, you know how, like. You know how, like, the whole Roanoke village kind of came out of, like, nowhere? What is that called? Antarctica? Came out of nowhere. Like, they left out of nowhere without a sign. The. What is that one? Library. Library. Before the Great Library. Rosetta. No, it was something else.
Bretman Rock
Rosetta Stone.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was like a. Well, it kind of just, like, disappeared. There's, like, a lot of, like, places in the world that they said that existed, but no one found it. And I feel like they're all in there. Yes.
Bretman Rock
Now, why the fuck would dragons be at a library, though?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because you know how, like. You know how, like, they're in such a great advanced civilization already, so they coexist with, like, all of these animals because they're using them as, like, a part of their civilizations.
Bretman Rock
Well, yes.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know what? Because they're so advanced, it's like an. A pet, you know?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. I feel like they live in the core of the Earth.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. And I feel like that's. The great ice wall is over there, and then you go inside the earth core, and that's. And you know how, like, they were talking about the flat world. The world is. There's a flat word. It's inside there. Conspiracy.
Bretman Rock
Did you make that? No, because I'm literally, like, if you look. Where are the sources?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my God. The fact that you're saying that. And I took three days looking those up.
Bretman Rock
Girl, please. You knew we were doing this episode yesterday. Nah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Two days ago. And that's when I started it, period.
Bretman Rock
Okay, I believe you. I still be. Regardless if you said that theory or not, I still believe in that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And you know how, like, there's a whole Bermuda Triangle, and you know how, like, there's people disappearing every time someone goes in that. It's like a little pathway that's another path, you know, like, there's those pinpoints of the world where it's like, everyone goes missing out of nowhere. And I feel like those are little, like, openings, portals, or, like, things to go to that. The other side of the world. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. Period. Thank you. Thank you.
Bretman Rock
Do you guys believe in dragons? If you do, what would you name your dragon? I really wish we could still have dragons? Yes.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I would be a dragon rider.
Bretman Rock
What would you. I would be, like, a. Such a dragon slayer, I feel like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Really?
Bretman Rock
Yeah, I would. I feel like I would have dragons the way I have chickens. Like, a lot of them.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. Different colors. Oh, wait.
Bretman Rock
Dragon trainer.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Trainer.
Bretman Rock
Dragon trainer.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Also, I was watching something about that.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my God.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Wait, the how to train a dragon. They said it's a real story.
Bretman Rock
Oh, period?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Oh, I was gonna say, you know who should name their child Dragon Princess? No. Megan Trainer. Meghan Trainor. So that the. The baby's name would be Dragon trainer.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Dragon trainer.
Bretman Rock
That's kind.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
That is so cute.
Bretman Rock
Hey, guys. My son, dragon trainer. Like, I would be like, yes, I'm dragon trainer. Hey, y'. All.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And then the girl would be like, this is my daughter, bird trainer.
Bretman Rock
Because I'm all about that dragon. All right, Dragon. No trouble.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I'm all about that dragon.
Bretman Rock
Exactly.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
All right. Funny enough, somebody actually sent in a bunch of Mandela effects, so we should go through them.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do you have a conspiracy theory?
Bretman Rock
I don't, because I forgot I literally had it, and I don't want to do it from memory. So I will start next episode with. With my pumpkin spice latte conspiracy theory.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Why do you remember, Like, I know.
Bretman Rock
A little bit about it. Like, Well, I remember a little bit of my research. It was about, like, how they think that pumpkin spice lattes are a government, like, trick to get us, like, to get us to drink pumpkin spice lattes. Because I guess, like, pumpkins have, like, this addictive thing in it. So that, like, that's why when you have this addictive ingredient. So that's why, like, every time, like, fall comes around, we associate pumpkin, pumpkin, and, like, we crave pumpkin, pumpkin. Like, you know, like the, like, white girl fall.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Like, they're literally feening for pumpkin spice lattes. And I think there's, like, the theory is that, like, the theory is that, like, the government controls us through these pumpkin spice. Well, they control us, period, through a lot of things and a lot of theories, but one of them is pumpkin spice lattes. And I would love to actually give you guys a well and more detailed conspiracy theory when I find my notes. So I'll start next episode with that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Is it because, like, you can plant pumpkins any time of the year, but why is it always on fall?
Bretman Rock
Exactly. Exactly.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Wow.
Bretman Rock
Right? Okay, let's do some mandala effects from Juarez. Oh, from Angel. Juarez. Paramo.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Paramo.
Bretman Rock
Hi, Bret. Msk. I've thought about this conspiracy theory, and I just Wanted to hear your thoughts. It seems crazy to remember something as one thing, but in reality, it's not like that. Below is more information on the subject. Love you all, and I'm looking forward to this Halloween episode. Thank you so much, angel, for sending these in. The Mandela effect is a phenomenon where large groups of people remember events or facts differently than what is recorded in history books or other sources. I think we all know what a Mandela effect is. It's named after Nelson Mandela, the former president of South Africa, who many people believe died in prison before his actual death in 2013.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Nelson Mandela was a president? I always thought he was a boxer.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. But I thought he already is still alive. Is he still alive today? Because it's saying that he died in 2013. Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, he's not an ancient person.
Bretman Rock
Oh, wait, no, no, no. They think he died in 2013, but he's still alive today. Right, Cap? Oh, when he died. Oh. Oh, I guess, like, before he died.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
What if that's a Mandela effect?
Bretman Rock
I literally thought he was still alive today because of all these Mandela effects talking about how he didn't die. But I guess, like, people thought he died before he died because that's what.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
What. That's what he's good at is giving Mandela effects.
Bretman Rock
Exactly. So thank you so much, Mr. Mandela, for giving us the Mandela effect.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know. Thank you.
Bretman Rock
All right, let's go through some of these examples. Okay. Berenstein Bears. Many people remember the popular children's book series being spelled Berenstain Bear instead of it actually being spelled Berenstain Bear. Have it. So it. So people think it's spelled like B E R E, N S T E.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I, N. Berenstein books. I thought it was Bear. And then that's Stein.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, no, it's. But it's stain. What? I swear to God is Berenstein.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Berenstein.
Bretman Rock
But, yeah, no, Berenstein and Berenstain. Like, which one did you used to see as a child?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Exactly.
Bretman Rock
That's what I'm saying. I swear. It was Berenstein Estina. No, it's.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
This is never Stain. E, E, I, N.
Bretman Rock
Okay, now let's talk about the peanut butter. Jif. Peanut butter. Some people recall the brand name being spelled Jiffy instead of Jif.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It was used to be Jiffy.
Bretman Rock
It was Jiffy.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
J I, F, F Y.
Bretman Rock
It was always Jiff.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
No, it was J I, F, F Y. I remember it being J I, F, F Y.
Bretman Rock
But it's Jif. It's what it's saying, Keeper.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. No, I know, but I remember it being a. Oh.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, wait, why? No, it's. It's just. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, I know what you're saying. Like, I swear.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
J, I and then the two. And then a Y that has like a little line that goes across the whole word period.
Bretman Rock
Okay, the next one is Sex in the City. Some folks remember the popular TV show and movie being called Sex in the City instead of the actual title, Sex and the City. I've always thought it was Sex in the City.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
In the City, not In the City.
Bretman Rock
Sex and the City. Ew.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Does that make sense?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. It's also crazy that so many people obviously watch this and it was around in so many seasons and, oh, one thing.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Remember that one whole big thing about like the little and Stitch, the cartoon? How, like, at first they were like, no, Nani shoved her inside an oven, but they changed it into a cabinet to make it seem like it was okay?
Bretman Rock
Yeah, no, a washing machine. But they changed it into a cabinet cabinet.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But I remember it being a washing machine.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, because they changed that because apparently, like in the early 2000s, like, kids would hide in the microwaves. So I don't think that's necessarily like a Mandela effect. Like, that was like, genuinely like they changed it. Okay, okay, so here are possible explanations. Obviously we have the classic misinformation and confirmation bias. People may be influenced by false information or remember events differently due to confirmation bias, which is what Kiefer has and struggles with spreading misinformation.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, well, I. It's always here, people saying it.
Bretman Rock
And Ms. K will be like, well, you know what they say? I think that because she says that first, that is a true thing. It is.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's because you know what they say.
Bretman Rock
Okay, Memory distortion. Human memory can be unreliable and people may be misremembering events or facts. Duh. That's what I struggle with. Same parallel universe or alternate realities? Some theories suggest that the Mandela effects could be evidence of parallel universe.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I am a big believer of that period because I think.
Bretman Rock
Do you believe in parallel universe?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes, I do.
Bretman Rock
I do believe that too.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I believe that your dreams are a person who's living your life in the other parallel universe. That's why when it comes to deja vu, it's already you feeling you doing that because the other person already did it.
Bretman Rock
Okay, but how are you going to go from dream to deja vu? Those are two different things.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because when you. When deja vu becomes so. In my head, deja vu's are the dreams that you forgot because you forgot them because you are meant to do that in life.
Bretman Rock
Wait, you kind of ate that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, because that's why sometimes when you dream you don't. You forget it.
Bretman Rock
I never think about deja vu too much because it's such a creepy thing. It is. But I always believe that deja vu means you're in the right place at the right time and you're supposed to be here. So it's actually a good sign.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes, but you know how like.
Bretman Rock
But when you say that deja vu might be a dream that you remembered from your par. From a parallel universe.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And that's why they always say chase your dreams. Because you know you're always chasing your dreams from another perspective.
Bretman Rock
Like from another universe. Yeah, well, I be dreaming about weird fucking things.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
That's why you get deja vu's because you're like, oh my God, you feel like you already did it, but you did it in your dreams.
Bretman Rock
Do you have any weird dreams that I'm like, okay, let me tell you about a dream that I had when I was a kid. And I swear to God there is. There is no way this is happening in a parlor universe.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But you remember it, so it's not gonna happen. It's a dream. The, the ones, the. The ones that I'm talking about is the dreams that you don't remember because you have those moments where like oh my God, I was thinking about something.
Bretman Rock
But I don't remember what it was. I remembered, I think I was seventh grade and I really still remember this dream because I wrote it down right after I woke up because I was like, what the was that dream? But I was. It was like a wet dream, but also not like. It started off very sexy. Obviously I always knew I was gay and I had a crush on this guy and in my dream he was a zombie, but I had a crush on him. And in this dream nobody was able to kill the zombies. We can't like the whole like shooting them in the brain didn't work. So what we had to do is get the.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
What get what.
Bretman Rock
Is get the zombies off. Like you have to make the zombies come to kill them. And I swear that is not happening in the alternate universe. I was.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But my case is. But imagine a zombie chasing you and yourself. Don't fuck me, please. I'm gonna take one for the team. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, guys, I got this one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh my God.
Bretman Rock
But yeah, who would you want as a zombie for that?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I always tell you guys this. Chris Evans, I have a Huge crush on him.
Bretman Rock
I just want. Who would I want as a zombie? Oh, you know who I would want as a zombie? I don't really want to dive off too far, but as of lately, my newest crush have been the Game maker at on high potential. Have you been watching High Potential?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I haven't watched the second episode.
Bretman Rock
Okay, we'll watch it after this. Really? Girl, the game Maker is fine.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Okay, okay. Wait, what? What's that?
Bretman Rock
Or Idris Elba. Hey, Idris.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know you're watching Idris.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my gosh. Oh, I know, I know.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So cute, right?
Bretman Rock
Okay, but these are other theories and speculations that could explain the Mandela Effect.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay?
Bretman Rock
There could be some glitches in reality. Some people believe that Mandela effect is evidence of glitches or anomalies in reality. Have you ever experienced a glitch in the universe, Kiefer?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I. Yes. And I have a video to prove it. There was one time when I was driving, and then out of nowhere, you know this light right now.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It literally turned like that. Like the whole city was yellow. And then two seconds later.
Bretman Rock
Did you think you were Rihanna?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Low key. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Turn up the lights.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, baby. No, And I have a video to prove it. And it was like I was driving in the freeway and it was yellow theory.
Bretman Rock
Oh, wait, my other. I have a glitch in the system, too.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Really?
Bretman Rock
Yes. Okay. So I always thought I was just seeing things, but obviously, as you guys know, my angel number is four. Yeah. And on the freeway, I was. I was heading into east side. This is when I was into, like, my plant era and I was driving on the east side. It was a rainy day, and I was just kind of like, in my feelings, honestly. And, like, I wasn't sad or anything. I was just definitely in my feelings because I was driving alone, going to a plant store on the other side. Usually you go with me.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
But right after the H3 freeway, you know, the one where it's like, welcome to Jurassic park, where you. You. You hold your breath and like, stuff like that. So right after there, there is a speed limit, and the speed limit has always been 25. Yeah, always been. It still is. And I went and made sure it still is.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
But that very day, I don't know if it was just the rain, the distortion, or maybe I was just asking the universe for sign a little too hard. But I swear to God, the stop sign was speed limit for, like, four number four.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Really?
Bretman Rock
Which is such a weird number because, I mean, like, if there was construction happening. Yeah, right.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But why would they?
Bretman Rock
And they were right. It's such a weird number because usually if there is construction, it will be, like five, 15. Not four, but I swear to God it was four. And then. But I was creeped out. But at the same time, I was like, I'm supposed to be doing that. Like, it just made me feel like, okay, I'm supposed to be here.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
So I don't know if that was a glitch in the system, but I literally. When I was driving back home, I was, like, literally breaking my neck trying to see if it was 25, and it was. So I'm like, damn, I think that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Could be a glitch somehow.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Or maybe my mind just wanted to see four, so it made me see four.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But, dang, if you did see it like that, your imagination is, like, crazy wild.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Also, if you guys have any Mandela effect stuff that you guys want to talk about, I know the ones that we talked about here are pretty basic.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Let us know down below.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I do have, like, a theory of like. Or, like a kind of like a I heard before.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But I don't remember who I heard it from. But do you. Do you guys know that there should be, like, at least, like, two people that looks exactly like you in the world?
Bretman Rock
Yes. Doppelgangers.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. And then they said that it's to believe that if you see or come across.
Bretman Rock
I've only found one of mines.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Really?
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Zendaya. Oh.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I was just about to say, if you come across one of them or, like, both of you guys, one of you guys is gonna die.
Bretman Rock
Right. But I think me and her has it. That's why we haven't met. Yeah. We know of each other.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. So. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because I look like.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, girl, when are you gonna read this concern?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, sorry, sorry. I thought I looked like what's her name?
Bretman Rock
What do you be looking like, Gigi Hadid?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Anyways, girl, please. Okay. Hi. My gosh. My name is Nancy, and I live in Australia, the land down under. I'm a huge fan of the show, and I've listened to every single word, every single an episode of my commute to work. You guys seriously make the traffic bearable. And I love, love the show. Can't wait for more episodes to come. Now my conspiracy. Conspiracy theories are number one. I lost it, girl. Over there. Number one.
Bretman Rock
Cafe.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Wi fi and loyalty apps are quietly testing human patient level. That's a good one. Okay, like, every buy nine get one free punch card is actually a behavioral experiment. To find the ideal delay that keeps people coming back without full satisfaction. That's why they change rewards and move the goal post. They're running focus groups on our caffeine addiction.
Bretman Rock
I don't get the last part, but yeah, okay.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I could see that.
Bretman Rock
I could definitely see that there has to be a reason they're doing it, but I don't think it's as malicious as, like, testing our patience.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I think it is because if I, like, I tend to do this a lot, but because, like, whenever I have a punch card, it's like I want to go back right away.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Just to get another one. Just to get. Just so I can get the free one.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And it's always like a. Like, it's always going to be behind the back of your head, like, oh, I have this punch card and I'm almost done with it. And, like, let me just go over there just so I can get rid of it.
Bretman Rock
It is a good tactic.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. It is a good tactic.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Wait, do you want to take turns reading or you want. Read the next one?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I can read it. Okay. Number two, certain candles company engineer sends to trigger nostalgic moods. So you'll text your ex or buy comfort snacks. And basically aromatic aromatherapy manipulation.
Bretman Rock
I believe it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I've never had a scent that made me want to text my ex, but I've definitely had scent. And Cat knows this. If I like a candle.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Hoarders.
Bretman Rock
If I like a candle or a Fabrize scent. And I know. Well, Kat and I, we always get, like, the seasonal holiday ones because we love holidays in this household. And something that we always stock up on are the marshmallow scent ones. Anything that is, like, crispy apple. Yeah. And we have it all throughout the year because it reminds both Cat and I like, our favorite season.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But I always try to, like, put sense with memories.
Bretman Rock
I mean, yeah, there's some sense where I'm literally like, this is Ms. K. Yeah. Like, literally, me and Kat always smell things. I'm like. And she'll be like, Ms. K would wear this. Or I'd be like, this smells like Ms. K. Same.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Literally every time someone is, like, walking past me, I'm like, oh, my God, is that brat?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know, or like, something like that. It's just like, it reminds you of everything.
Bretman Rock
What is the scent that would make you text your ex, Chet? Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I'm like, if I smell shit, I'm like, hey, just.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know, I got a whiff of a smell.
Bretman Rock
I just took a shit and I Thought of you.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. The smell was like, you.
Bretman Rock
Something. Wait, can I say something? A little triggering for me?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, you're only triggering yourself.
Bretman Rock
So, on my flight to la, this trip. Last trip, I had to move my flight because of the incident that Ms. K caused. In the house. In the house. I had to move my flight and catch a later flight. And the man that I was sitting next to, literally, like, your ex smelled like my ex.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And I was so tricked. It made me not want to, like, honestly, it didn't make me miss him or like. Like, text him or anything, but I literally was like, this is what my ex. Like, his body set. Like, not like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Like a perfume.
Bretman Rock
Like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I'm like, this is what my ex smelled like. I won't tell y' all which X, but. Yeah. Oh, there's definitely that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You said that it's like, whoa.
Bretman Rock
Not.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, well, what could it be? Anyways. Okay. Number three. Supermarkets rearrange aisles just slightly every few months to keep us wondering. Wandering longer. They call it seasonal flow, but it's really lost. And buying more snacks. Should I reread that?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Supermarkets rearrange aisles just slightly every few months to keep us wandering longer.
Bretman Rock
I mean. Yeah, okay. There's also this theory that I saw. Well, not really a theory. I think it was more like a. Literally, they did a test subject on, like, which way women turn when they enter a grocery store or any store. And after entering the front door, women always tends to turn left. And that's why a lot of stores that their makeups on the left. Yeah, yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
My God.
Bretman Rock
I think the feminine stuff.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
And then the right side always, like.
Bretman Rock
Alcohol and, like, cleaning supplies. Not always, obviously, because some stores are, like, different things, but, like, it's mostly.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, that's why, like, like, what's. Is that? City Mill. It's like, when you look on the left side, that's where, like, all the furnitures are, like, the colors. When you look to the right side, it's like, all of that.
Bretman Rock
But, yeah, I do agree with the thing, though. Like, I do think they rearrange things just to keep us wandering for longer. I think that's just, like, a strategy. I don't think that's even really a. Like, a conspiracy theory. I think that they are doing that.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah, they do. And I feel like it's just based on, like, what attracts you more.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But. Okay, so I feel like this is for you, Brett. Airports design security exits, so you must walk through duty free. But they pump out subtle perfume scents to scramble your impulse. Control and make you buy overplay things.
Bretman Rock
Mm.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Is this true?
Bretman Rock
I feel like that marries the second and the third one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, kind of.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Like. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
The scents. But how it's ordered. I mean, every time I go L. A or anywhere in the world, I feel like I'm always constantly like, I. Yeah, I think they just. That's just how it is. Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because I do get. The whole exit is like, you're in front of the stores right away. But.
Bretman Rock
Okay, let me read.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. Oh, and that's all from her. Thank you so much. From Nancy from Australia, period.
Bretman Rock
Oh, we got a spooky conspiracy from Bulgaria from Stefan.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Bulgaria.
Bretman Rock
Thank you so much. Stefan Atanasso. Hey, it's Stefan. I'm from Bulgaria, but I've been living in London for many years now. I wanted to share one of our creepiest conspiracy with you because, trust me, this one's giving scary and shady. Back in rope. Back in the Rhodope Mountains of Bulgaria, there are these ancient Thracian sanctuaries that people still hold dangerous energy. That people still say hold dangerous energy. At night, glowing lights float silently through the forest like little orbs leading you somewhere you shouldn't go. Some hikers swear they hear voices whispering in a language nobody has spoken for thousands of years. The conspiracy people believe these sites are actually energy portals. And the one who disappears in these mountains don't just vanish. They get dragged into another dimension. Whole families have stories about relatives who went up there and never came back. And the creepiest part, Many believe the government knows all about it. But instead of warning people, they cover it up. Because if the truth goes out, imagine the chaos. So, yeah, it's giving ancient mystery, government cover up, and interdimensional kidnapping all in one.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
See, it goes back to my point earlier with the thin wall.
Bretman Rock
Maybe the dragons are in there. Girl.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. I'm telling you right now, those are like. Remember when you're talking about the dragons.
Bretman Rock
Okay, you need to look up dragons in Bulgaria now.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I. No, because I'm pretty sure they have. Because in the UK they had, like, dragons. Swell. Yes. They had dragons in Asia at the same time as they had dragons in America. They had same times. They had dragons in, like, Middle Eastern, same animal, but. And see how, like, there's a portal again, period.
Bretman Rock
I found a conspiracy that is good for you to read, Ms. K. What? 55. Okay, we'll read two more conspiracy theories.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Last two. Cleopatra Conspiracy by Hilaria Guzman.
Bretman Rock
Oh, she's giving very much Filipina with that name.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Guzman or Mexican Latina oh, yeah. Okay. She said Cleopatra said no man would ever find her grave. True. I was like, oh, my God. I was reading. I was listening to this when I was falling asleep.
Bretman Rock
And did you know that the closest person that ever found her grave, or a woman.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. However, a Dominican woman.
Bretman Rock
Girl, we need to just read this shit.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Has been the only person to ever come close to finding her grave. I really do believe Cleopatra meant no man, male. Would ever find it and that only woman could. I also believe that woman actually did find her grave, but choose not to reveal its location to respect honor her wishes.
Bretman Rock
A true girl's girl, period. I love that. No, I honestly believe that that's so similar to Kamehameha.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It is.
Bretman Rock
Did you guys watch the finale of Chief of War? Because I finished it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I haven't yet.
Bretman Rock
Girl, that last couple episodes was so graphic.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my gosh. Okay. I need to.
Bretman Rock
I was literally like, like, this is.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I mean, did it in the back.
Bretman Rock
No, girl. I was literally like, oh. I was like, goop.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, my God.
Bretman Rock
Thank God I was in la, because I was. Well, not thank God, but, like, I got. I finally caught up on things. All I did was, like, stay inside in la. But I can't wait for you to watch it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I need to watch it.
Bretman Rock
And I enjoyed those things. I enjoy, like, goriness. I enjoy drama, dramatics. Yeah, but girl, people's tongues were good. Oh, never mind. Let me just let y' all watch it. Yeah, let me let y' all watch it, please.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I don't like. But, you know. Okay. Speaking of that, you know how, like, you're. That earlier, the Bulgarian one?
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know how, like, you were talking about how, like, light, little light orbs reminded me of the night marchers? That's why when. When, like, cultures, like, say things like that, it's like, how is it, like, kind of. It's kind of, like, similar, yet it's, like, different.
Bretman Rock
And you started that. You started the episode saying that. Yeah. The dragons, like, every culture have dragons.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. And now it's the light orbs in the mountain. That's, like, weird mountain that goes into, like, chills. Chills. Oh, my God. I live. Anyways, okay, your turn. And even though. Okay, so speaking of Cleopatra, you know how, like, you said, like, King Kamehameha never found it. Even the Genghis Khan person, they never found his graves. And I feel like all of these great people are in the ice wall.
Bretman Rock
I mean, I just think it's so fascinating that they're, like, all these important figures.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes.
Bretman Rock
Especially back in the day, like, don't want their graves, like, being found or, like, want to be secretly buried. Like, I want to know the lore. Like, why? Why is that?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. And there's. There has to be a reason why.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because, like, why is it only, like, some are getting found?
Bretman Rock
Because from what I believe with King Kamehameha, like, he. He died and then he had people bury him, and those people had to kill themselves, literally, with the gun. They had to, like, they had to get sacrificed. Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
They.
Bretman Rock
They only were the only ones that they need to.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
They needed to, like, figure out, like, how they were gonna, like, say. Because I think they didn't want, like, their enemies finding their grave. And, like, you know, but what you.
Bretman Rock
Gonna do with a dead body?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Literally. That's what I'm saying also, like, I was, like, reading about it. The Genghis Khan, they were, like, saying, like, how when he died, they were, like, going to this path and every path, like, every person that cross, like, you know, like, saw them crossing that path. They killed each one of them. Yes. So no one, like, knows where they are. And then until, like, they found, like, a burial place and they killed all. Killed each other, but no one knows where it is.
Bretman Rock
I mean, I wish I could get secretly buried, but I feel like I'm such a Leo. Like, I want a parade.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You're gonna have a glass box.
Bretman Rock
I want a parade. I want a castle. Like, bitch, I want it all refrigerated, even. Yes. Okay, last one. And I love that. This is actually from. I believe she's a Hawaii girl because she finishes it off with Mahalunui. Yeah. Okay, let me read. This is from Frances La Rosa, death of Princess Diana in 1997. Oh, I love official investigations. French and British concluded her death was caused by a car crash in Paris where the driver, Henry Paul, was speeding and intoxicated. And Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Despite this, conspiracy theories spread suggesting she was murdered, often pointing to the British royal family. M16. M16. What? Who the is that? M16. Or other groups who supposedly wanted her silence because of her relationship with Dottie Fade. Muhammad Ali Fayed, which is Dottie's father, was strong promoter of the murder theory, claiming it was an assassination. After years of investigation, the official verdict remained tragic accident, not murder. So while it's a comparison. So while it's a conspiracy theory, the evidence doesn't support it. But it remains popular because of Diana's global fame and mystery surrounding her life.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's. It's an assassination.
Bretman Rock
You Think so.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It is. It's. It's a. Yes.
Bretman Rock
So girl speak on it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Because it's like, how is she? How is like a one person that's the most popular person during that time just dies without anyone capturing it on camera, Knowing, like, it was underground. Knowing, like a lot of like securities before, like, was already like a thing. So the fact that they got. First of all, why was the driver drunk? Someone got him drunk, you know.
Bretman Rock
So you think that even if it was a car crash, you think it was a car crash that was like.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Maybe like tempered with.
Bretman Rock
Tempered with.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. Because why was he speeding on like a drunk driving A very important person.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You know.
Bretman Rock
Oh, you think someone paid the driver?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah. Or they kind of like probably like gave him drugs to be feel intoxicated. Yeah, you never know that kind of stuff. Because she was a very much like.
Bretman Rock
Like everyone, like, I'm watching high potential. Right.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Everyone admired her.
Bretman Rock
And like, speaking of admiring her, you know who was named after Princess Diana?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Diana Sabiri.
Bretman Rock
Princess. Princess May.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Princess May.
Bretman Rock
Yes. My mom was a big Diana because.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Her name was supposed to be Diana. Yeah, I forgot about that.
Bretman Rock
Yeah, sorry. Sorry.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I just put that out there. Yeah, I remember that. Princess Diana. No, but yeah, because she was like this big influence person and every like. And I feel like the royal family started noticing how much of a powerful she had because everyone loved her and still is. And like. Yes, exactly. And like, and you know, did you know. Did you know that her burial was one of the most like, looked upon unlike uk when she died, like, she had the most flowers outside of the.
Bretman Rock
More than the Queen Queen period.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I mean, because she was just like, loved by many. So yeah, they need. They needed to get rid of her because she was a threat. Like how they got rid of Marilyn Monroe.
Bretman Rock
I feel like we need to discuss that too.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
But that was another conspiracy theory because.
Bretman Rock
This episode is getting longer. Should we do favorites of the week?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes.
Bretman Rock
Do you have your favorite of the week?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I do. I'm actually wearing it. It's my nose ring.
Bretman Rock
I know I would love it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's not a nose ring. It's an earring.
Bretman Rock
Oh, period. From where?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
In my closet. Because I.
Bretman Rock
Okay, so isn't it not tickle your lip?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It doesn't.
Bretman Rock
Okay. Because I had hair here earlier and.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I'm like, no, I actually love. Okay, so I have been like, loving like a good dangly earring. Most earring. Because that's the only earring I have in my body. But I just been loving repurposing earrings like, little tiny earrings as, like, a nose ring because there's no dangly earring.
Bretman Rock
Yeah.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Nose ring.
Bretman Rock
So period. I love it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Thank you. What about you?
Bretman Rock
How do you even close it?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
It's like a class. You want me to stuff it? Hold on.
Bretman Rock
Damn. I remember I was with you when we got your nose pierced, and I influenced you.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yes. You're the one that was like, yeah.
Bretman Rock
You match with it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
I can't unsee you without a rose ring now.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
So it's like a classy. Put this on, and it just like an earring. You clasp it, and I'm like, why haven't they made this for noses? It's like, the most convenient thing ever. Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Period. But, yeah, that was when I got my septum.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I wasn't even gonna get it. You were like, you should get.
Bretman Rock
You should just get it.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay.
Bretman Rock
My product of the week has been this charger I actually got from TikTok shop, not sponsored with my own money. This is Anker. And I just love how. Well, it's huge. Yes, I know. And there's a lot of compact ones, but I love this one because it literally charges as this charge. This doubles into a charger, so you can charge your two phone. Oh, my gosh. And then it also has two more plugs. And I love, like, the graphics. Like, hold on. Watch when it. When I put it in the charger. Like, it. It has, like, you can see all these things. Like, it's just so good. And it's. It's a fast charger, you know, like, how, like, there's a bunch of, like, different types of, like, chargers. This is the fast one. It charges it, like, fast.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Duh.
Bretman Rock
What the.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
He sounded like me for a second.
Bretman Rock
No, I'm like, what the am I talking about? Okay, anyways, guys, this episode is too long. We'll continue with Ghost Stories next episode.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
And hopefully we can get Ms. Princess May to come back.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know. At least for one episode.
Bretman Rock
I know. But she's been working on her content. I've been seeing Miss Princess me cooking every day.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know. I. I love her because she was pretty good cook.
Bretman Rock
She is. And I'm just glad that, like, Mom's teaching her to cook.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, she just texted me, actually, just now.
Bretman Rock
We should FaceTime her.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
We should let her close out.
Bretman Rock
Yeah. Be like, what is your product of the week?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, she was like, call her.
Bretman Rock
FaceTime her. Oh.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh, she is.
Bretman Rock
Wait, answer, answer, answer. Put it on us, though.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Hey.
Bretman Rock
Hi.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Oh.
Bretman Rock
Oh, not this. Hanging up on us.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Do I want to Call her. Or you can call her. Oh, she's calling me.
Bretman Rock
Okay, we'll give it one more time.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay.
Peyton Sartin
Hi.
Bretman Rock
Hi.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Hi. No, you're good.
Bretman Rock
Say hi, everybody. Princess, do you have any fertility of.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
The week and a product of the week.
Princess May
That is so funny. Fertility of the week. Weak.
Bretman Rock
Oh, my gosh.
Princess May
When your baby is teething, give her a really cold. Like anything. Like just cold. Like a teaser. A cold teaser. Or a cold banana. Cold watermelon. Something cold just to soothe her teeth, you know?
Bretman Rock
Wait, so why did you call us? Yeah, we can hear you. Why did you call us?
Princess May
I called Ms. K. Because, Ms. K, the kids are waiting for you to pick them up because you said you promise and girl, you know, you know they re.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I know. I said we need to get a sleepover.
Princess May
Is ready.
Bretman Rock
And she's like, oh, my God.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Okay, fine.
Bretman Rock
Tell her she's at work.
Princess May
I did tell her that. She's like, I'm so excited.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
I can't wait. Tell her I can go get her after. But do you want to say one last thing to the audience?
Princess May
I'll be back. Guys, wait, wait.
Bretman Rock
We gotta invite her. Wait, Princess, you gotta be back for one Halloween episode.
Princess May
I will. You guys look so cute.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Period.
Bretman Rock
Well, maybe come next Friday, because we're doing. We're not. We're not being the D word, okay?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Please.
Princess May
I don't want to be the D word.
Bretman Rock
Well, we gotta end the episode. Say bye with us, Kiefer. Where can they find you?
Ms. K (Kiefer)
You guys can all find me at M I S K A A Y.
Bretman Rock
E. And it's me, Bretman. Rock everywhere. And make sure you guys like and subscribe to the baddest radio, Princess. Say, we'll see you guys next week.
Princess May
We'll see you guys next week.
Bretman Rock
I love you.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Bye.
Bretman Rock
We will believe it when we see it, Princess.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Okay. Bye, everybody.
Bretman Rock
Bye, Beach. I'll see you next Thursday.
Ms. K (Kiefer)
Yeah.
Bretman Rock
Don't forget to follow rate and like, you can follow me at bretmanrock on everything and follow the podcast at the baddest radio on all social media. Bye, Beach.
Peyton Sartin
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In this playful, confidence-boosting episode, Bretman Rock and Ms. K jump into spooky season and all things conspiratorial. With their signature humor and chemistry, they discuss Halloween costumes, wild conspiracy theories (from dragons to the Mandela Effect), fan-submitted conspiracies, and personal anecdotes about memories, Filipino pride, and pop culture. Entertaining and thought-provoking, this episode playfully blurs the line between tongue-in-cheek banter and “what ifs,” making it equally engaging for skeptics and the spiritually curious.
Princess May: Joins on call to talk teething tips for babies, adds a family vibe, and promises more appearances.
Upbeat, sassy, self-assured, irreverently humorous, yet warm and inclusive. The hosts fluidly blend pop culture fandom, Filipino-American pride, and a love of the weird, approaching even “serious” theories with comedic skepticism and an unapologetic sense of style.
Who’s the REAL Conspiracy Theorist? is a lively, laughter-filled celebration of curiosity, memory quirks, and cultural myth-making. From trying viral TikTok drinks to debating dragons and doppelgängers, Bretman and Ms. K marry critical thinking with playful speculation. Listener conspiracies are treated to the same blend of humor and scrutiny, making this a must-listen for anyone who loves Halloween, pop culture, and side-eyed discussions of life’s mysteries.
Next episode: ghost stories!