#313 - Exiled VICE Founder: The #1 Villain in Political Media | Gavin McInnes - Danny Jones Podcast

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Danny Jones Podcast Episode #313 - "Exiled VICE Founder: The #1 Villain in Political Media | Gavin McInnes"

Release Date: July 5, 2025
Host: Danny Jones
Guest: Gavin McInnes

1. Introduction and Controversial Topics

The episode begins with Danny Jones addressing the audience about the heavily censored nature of the current episode due to "unsettling controversial topics" and explicit language used during the discussion. He directs listeners to access the full, unedited version via Patreon for those interested.

Notable Quote:
Gavin McInnes [00:13]: "The following episode has been heavily censored with parts redacted due to the unsettling controversial topics discussed and the naughty words that were used."

2. Discussion on Holocaust Denial and Antisemitism

Gavin McInnes initiates a provocative question regarding the perception of the Holocaust among Black communities, suggesting a widespread negative view of Jews. Danny Jones responds by expressing skepticism about the prevalence of Holocaust denial within Black communities, attributing it to negative perceptions of Jews.

Notable Quotes:
Gavin McInnes [00:34]: "Do black people think that the Holocaust didn't happen?"
Danny Jones [00:46]: "I think black people are probably 90% of black people have a very negative view of Jews."

The conversation delves into the "Mr. Death" documentary, which portrays a man who engineered various methods of execution for prisons and was later leveraged by Holocaust deniers as an "expert witness." Both hosts express criticism of Holocaust deniers, with Danny emphasizing his non-denial stance.

Notable Quotes:
Gavin McInnes [01:37]: "Yeah, that sounds like he was very. An accurate scientist."
Danny Jones [05:14]: "I don't deny the Holocaust. I'm not a Holocaust denier."

3. Media, Culture Wars, and Political Correctness

The discussion shifts to broader cultural and political issues, including the media's handling of political figures like Joe Biden and the ongoing culture wars. Danny criticizes what he perceives as media manipulation and rewriting of history, emphasizing his focus on contemporary issues over historical genocides.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [05:59]: "But like, within the short amount of time I have every day, I'd like to investigate the media's lies about Joe Biden."
Gavin McInnes [07:15]: "It's just an interesting take."

They discuss the concept of being "the culture," advocating for active participation in societal norms and resisting divisive cultural narratives.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [09:09]: "We're still having... schools are still woke. People are still getting canceled. We still haven't won the culture wars."

4. Personal Anecdotes and Social Interactions

Danny shares personal experiences related to social interactions in bars and on cruises, highlighting confrontations and cultural clashes. He expresses frustration with certain behaviors and attire, such as wearing Crocs and pajamas in public spaces like airports.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [10:32]: "Who's that? Skells is like a crackhead, loser, junkie, piece of shit black guy..."
Gavin McInnes [10:58]: "Who's that?"

The conversation includes humorous and controversial remarks about fashion choices and social conduct, reflecting the hosts' differing perspectives on societal norms.

5. The Proud Boys and Platform Bans

The hosts discuss the Proud Boys, a far-right group, and incidents involving the organization, including violent confrontations and subsequent bans from various online platforms. Danny recounts being banned from multiple services after a violent encounter orchestrated by the Proud Boys, leading to his status as a "Persona non grata."

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [12:08]: "But eventually they started hiring him to develop new ways to execute people..."
Gavin McInnes [84:18]: "You think it's."

They elaborate on the repercussions of such events, including legal actions against protesters and increased censorship of their content.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [87:44]: "Skinhead and anti Semite."

6. Reflections on Friendship and Betrayal

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around broken friendships stemming from ideological differences and public confrontations. Both Danny and Gavin reflect on how deep-seated disagreements and actions have led to lasting rifts.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [74:34]: "We were like the worst nightmare."
Gavin McInnes [86:56]: "It's pretty raw, like."

They share personal stories of attempting to salvage friendships post-confrontation, often failing due to entrenched positions and external pressures.

7. Racial Stereotypes and Intelligence Bias

The hosts engage in a contentious debate about racial stereotypes, intelligence, and societal roles. Danny discusses perceived differences in intelligence and societal contributions between Jewish and Arab communities, making sweeping generalizations that reflect deeply biased perspectives.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [151:56]: "There's evidence that Abraham Lincoln was a fat..."
Gavin McInnes [153:22]: "He doesn't believe in evolution. He believes that evolution's fake."

This section is marked by overtly offensive and discriminatory remarks, showcasing the hosts' contentious viewpoints on race and intelligence.

8. Critique of Modern Society and Technology

Danny criticizes modern technological advancements and societal changes, such as the shift to electric vehicles and the decline in traditional skills. He laments the loss of "competence" in complex systems like aviation, attributing it to cultural and systemic failures.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [115:22]: "Politics is like taxes, capital gains tax, estate tax. What borders should be where interest rates."
Gavin McInnes [116:23]: "Is a system, right?"

He expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of modern systems, emphasizing a nostalgic longing for what he perceives as better times.

9. Closing Remarks and Future Prospects

As the conversation winds down, both hosts touch upon personal achievements, ongoing projects, and the challenges of maintaining their platforms amidst widespread censorship and societal backlash. Danny mentions his continued efforts to spread his message through alternative platforms despite bans from mainstream services.

Notable Quotes:
Danny Jones [168:43]: "Thanks for having me, guy. Great show. Fun times."
Gavin McInnes [168:49]: "Of course. Thanks for coming. Good night, world."

Conclusion

Episode #313 of the Danny Jones Podcast features a heated and controversial discussion between Danny Jones and Gavin McInnes, covering a wide array of topics from Holocaust denial and antisemitism to media bias, culture wars, and personal anecdotes involving far-right groups like the Proud Boys. The conversation is marked by provocative statements, offensive stereotypes, and a critical view of modern societal changes, reflecting the polarized nature of contemporary political discourse.

Note: This summary aims to objectively capture the content of the conversation while adhering to respectful and non-promotional language. The topics discussed include sensitive and potentially offensive material.

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[00:00]
Gavin McInnes
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Gavin McInnes
And sign on bonuses. Parents help your grads start their career today@navy.com. the following episode has been heavily censored with parts redacted due to the unsettling controversial topics discussed and the naughty words that were used. However, if you want the full unedited ad free version of the podc, it's on our Patreon. It's linked at the top of the description below. Enjoy the show. Is that true? Do black people think that the Holocaust didn't happen?
[00:46]
Danny
I don't think most black people care. I think black people are probably 90 of black people have a very negative view of Jews.
[00:55]
Gavin McInnes
Really? Well, especially Kanye. He's one of them. I actually know he just took it back the other day. I saw, I saw that you tried to talk him off the ledge. You tried to, you interviewed him and tried to convince him not to be an anti Semite.
[01:10]
Danny
Yeah, that went great. That was a smash hit.
[01:14]
Gavin McInnes
I, I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes.
[01:19]
Danny
It's a good interview. You should watch it. It's funny.
[01:23]
Gavin McInnes
Have you ever heard. I was just talking to.
[01:24]
Danny
Are we live? I mean, recording.
[01:26]
Gavin McInnes
We're recording.
[01:27]
Danny
Okay. This is it. This is a show.
[01:28]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, this is a show. This is a show. There's this dude, there's this documentary that Hamilton Morris's dad did called Mr. Death. I don't know if you've ever heard of it.
[01:37]
Danny
Rings the bell.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah, it's a, it's a film about a guy who, his dad worked for the Bureau of, Bureau of Prisons. And the electric chair broke and they needed somebody to fix the electric chair. So they told this guy's dad, like, figure out, go find some electrician to fix the electric chair so we can keep killing people or whatever because we don't have much time. And he took it home and then his like, his kid, his like teenage kid was tinkering around in the garage and like fixed it unbeknownst to him. And he came downstairs like, dad, I fixed the electric chair. And they brought it back to the prison and it worked. And then the prison's like, oh my God, this is amazing. We want to hire your son to fix all the electric chairs across the country. And then eventually they started hiring him to develop new, new ways to execute people that weren't like. Because a lot of people were getting electrocuted and not dying. They were Just like getting turned into vegetables. And then he eventually invented gas chambers. Then he invented. He developed.
[02:31]
Danny
What year is this?
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Gavin McInnes
I don't know. You'd have to look it up.
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Danny
Like, Pre World War II or recent.
[02:36]
Gavin McInnes
No, this is not. This is after World War II. I want to say this is in, like, the 70s.
[02:40]
Danny
Okay.
[02:41]
Gavin McInnes
I could be wrong, but I'm right around there. And then he invented the lethal injection stuff and all these crazy ways of executing people. And they called him. Well, the name of the documentary is Mr. Death. And eventually there's this guy. I'm sure you're familiar with him, Zundal, this guy who went Holocaust denier.
[03:00]
Danny
Yeah, yeah.
[03:00]
Gavin McInnes
So Zundal found out about this guy and found out he was building gas chambers for the prisons and used him and convinced him to testify for him in court to prove that the gas chambers in Auschwitz and all across Germany.
[03:14]
Danny
And Poland, really diving into it.
[03:16]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that. Convince them and use him as, like, an expert witness who had no training in any of this and just figured it out as he was going, that they were. They didn't. They didn't work. There's no way those gas chambers would have worked anyways.
[03:28]
Danny
It's just like, before we started the show, I was doing a joke about saying the most offensive thing possible.
[03:33]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[03:34]
Danny
And using the N word in Holocaust. But here on the live show or the real show, we're actually discussing whether the Holocaust happened or not in the first 10 seconds.
[03:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Isn't that good? I think it's right. I think it's right on brand.
[03:46]
Danny
I don't mind. I don't mind.
[03:49]
Gavin McInnes
So anyways, yeah, that was a crazy documentary. You should watch it.
[03:53]
Danny
Okay. I mean, are we ask. Are we now discussing the Holocaust whether it happened or not?
[03:59]
Gavin McInnes
No, I was just. It was just an anecdotal thing I thought you might find interesting.
[04:02]
Danny
Kind of a big. That's like talking about whether your mother cheated on your dad or not.
[04:07]
Gavin McInnes
I don't think.
[04:08]
Danny
You can't just gloss over that.
[04:09]
Gavin McInnes
No, it's just an interesting, like, dive into, like, this weirdo. This, like, crazy character.
[04:15]
Danny
But it doesn't sound very weird. It sounded like he was very. An accurate scientist.
[04:19]
Gavin McInnes
No, he wasn't a scientist. He just got.
[04:21]
Danny
He just, like an accurate electrical engineer.
[04:25]
Gavin McInnes
He wasn't even. He wasn't even, like, trained in electrical engineering. He just, like.
[04:28]
Danny
He was.
[04:28]
Gavin McInnes
He taught himself.
[04:30]
Danny
Huh. You don't want this banned off YouTube?
[04:33]
Gavin McInnes
No, it'll be banned off YouTube.
[04:35]
Danny
But your first question is, I saw this documentary about this super smart guy yeah, that says the Holocaust never happened.
[04:42]
Gavin McInnes
I called him smart. I don't think I called him smart.
[04:44]
Danny
He sounds smart.
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Gavin McInnes
You think? Yeah, well, he was kind of an idiot because he got hoodwinks.
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Danny
He fixed an electric chair.
[04:51]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, well, I mean, that's a certain kind of intelligence. Right. But he also got hoodwinked by the other guy to convince him.
[04:56]
Danny
So how do you feel about the Holocaust?
[04:59]
Gavin McInnes
I mean, I don't deny the Holocaust. I'm not a Holocaust denier. The guy.
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Danny
How many people you think died?
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Gavin McInnes
What? I don't know. What's the consensus?
[05:06]
Danny
Six million? Is the general okay?
[05:08]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. I mean, I. This is not like, my expertise or my background. I kind of like, whatever the narrative.
[05:13]
Danny
That's how I feel.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[05:14]
Danny
It's just a weird thing to bring up at the very beginning of an interview.
[05:17]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, I'm sorry.
[05:18]
Danny
I'm not mad.
[05:19]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, okay.
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Danny
But you're like, you're. It's like starting an interview with, when do you think a child is viable? You know what I mean? Like, holy. Dude, I'm totally into any topic you want to talk about, but. Wow. Yeah, that's right out of the gate.
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Gavin McInnes
Okay, what do you want to talk about?
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Danny
No, no, I'll talk about anything. My. My thing about genocides and Holocaust and is. And it's not a very popular subject, but I don't really care. Like, Mao killed 80 million, right. So, like, Ernst Sundel is really into going to AITZ and checking, like, the Zyklon B and all this stuff.
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Gavin McInnes
Right.
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Danny
So, okay, you're the. You're the guy, right? So me, like, getting into Mao's Great Leap forward and the 80 million that were killed, like, I'd have to go, like, with a Chinese translator and go through all these things. And that's a valid thing to do. You should question all of these horrific mass murders, like Pol Pot, Cambodia and all this stuff. Yeah, I don't have the time. I mean, I'm so concerned with today.
[06:28]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
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Danny
And the massive corruption that goes on and the rewriting of history, like, from last week. Like, we're told that the media had no idea Biden was. Until three days ago.
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Gavin McInnes
Right.
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Danny
And you go, no, that's not true. So I'm definitely open to investigating the Holocaust, investigating Pol Pot, investigating the. The Armenian genocide, investigating all of these horrific genocides. Definitely. Sure. If I have extra time, I'm definitely going to get to that. But, like, within the short amount of time I have every day, I'd like to investigate the media's lies about Joe Biden. One hour ago.
[07:09]
Gavin McInnes
Huh.
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Danny
And then spread backwards from there.
[07:12]
Gavin McInnes
See, I'm kind of the opposite. I kind of don't give a what's going on in the media today that much.
[07:16]
Danny
Really?
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
No, that's an interesting take.
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Gavin McInnes
I feel like.
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Danny
What's that blue shit in your mouth? What is that?
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Gavin McInnes
Oh, it's this stuff. It's called Methylene blue.
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Danny
Is that one of your sponsors?
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Gavin McInnes
No, no, no, they don't sponsor me, but it's a, it's a.
[07:27]
Danny
It's blue jean dye, as one does.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
Ingest blue jean dye.
[07:33]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Or it could be fish tank cleaner as well.
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Danny
Okay. All right.
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Gavin McInnes
What was I gonna say?
[07:38]
Danny
So you don't care about what's going on the news right now?
[07:39]
Gavin McInnes
I, I. Not that I don't care. I'm just not as interested because it just feels like some. It just feels like a big distraction to keep. Don't you feel that way sometimes? That likes all the, that you see and all like, the, the 30 second clips on all the news media websites and all the little podcast clips that come out about Biden this, Kamala that, Trump this, blah, blah, blah. Like, none of that, like, it's just like, wash your hands and repeat tomorrow the next thing. Like, we forgot about Trump getting almost assassinated as soon as the Olympic thing came out with all the fat trannies jumping around.
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Danny
Oh, I didn't forget mother and forget, but most people, man fats in my frontal lobe.
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Gavin McInnes
Don't you think, though, that some of this cultural stuff, this culture war stuff that's happening every single day is. Is just purposely to keep us divided so that whoever's at the top can control us?
[08:29]
Danny
Well, it better not be, or I'm out of a job. But my job is to talk about modern culture war and how it applies to everything around us. And I mean, you're making me doubt myself, and maybe I should retire. But I think that this is the most important modern culture in the history of America. I mean, outside of the Civil War in recent history, like, if Trump didn't win, we were toast. And the fact that Trump won is huge. And now that he's winning, I want to, like, shine a spotlight on the fact that, like, we got the Panama Canal back. This is a big deal. I want to shine a spotlight on detransitioners, these kids who are like, why did you tell me to cut my off? Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. Now, as far as, like, their mini genocide. Yeah. How many people died in the mini genocide? Definitely. Let's. Let's Check that out at some point. But right now, I want you to know that, you know, schools are still woke. People are still getting canceled. We still haven't won the culture wars. And as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream from the culture. So I want to. I want to get. I keep saying on my show, be the culture. Like, if someone is at the airport in a wheelchair and they can walk, go. You can walk. Or at a bar, did you tip? Like. And my wife gets so. I hate these things. Go play a video. We'll listen, we'll take them off. But my wife goes like, what are you doing? Why are you getting involved? You're causing a scene. I go, I'm a patriarch. This is a patriarchy. This is my society. So this guy sitting in the wheelchair who isn't paralyzed is my problem. That's my wheelchair. And I was in a. In an argument.
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Gavin McInnes
Was this on the Disney cruise? You saw this?
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Danny
That's a different thing. Okay, we'll get to that. But there was these skells at my local bar.
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Gavin McInnes
Who's that?
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Danny
Skells is like a crackhead, loser, junkie, piece of shit black guy and his fat white girlfriend. And they come in and they want to plug in their phones, and they asked for a water. And I go, no, you're not getting a water near. You're not plugging your phones. And the barmaid is like, this isn't your bar, Gavin. And I go, is it really not my bar? Like, this is my bar I come to. Is your church, not your church. This is your church.
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Gavin McInnes
Right?
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Danny
Say someone is like, I don't know, spray painting you f. On your street. That's my street. You're not going to spray paint that on my street, right? So it's my street, it's my bar, it's my church, and it's my airport. Like, I'm in Western society. So you're in a wheelchair in my airport. So be the culture. Get involved today. Now, the fact that you seem more interested in the past, I totally respect that we need historians, but personally, my obsession these days has been like, what are you doing? Why are you wearing Crocs?
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Gavin McInnes
Mm.
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Danny
And pajamas at the airport? And the drunkard I get, the more I confront them, and that's not good, because I'm gonna get stabbed.
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Gavin McInnes
You've been knocked out, haven't you? Like, you got knocked out during a. What was that?
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Danny
What was that? I was doing a pilot called the Immersionist. It's a. It's a word I invented. That's not very sexy. But I'm like, if you're doing journalism, don't sit at your desk Googling, like, go live with them.
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Gavin McInnes
Go.
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Danny
Go be them. In fact, I saw you have Thomas Morton on your eraser board.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Because we wanted to. We want to get him on the show.
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Danny
So he took my concept and made it his career. Impressionism. Well, when he started Advice, he was a very high IQ intern that I knew was good, but had zero testosterone, but was willing to do anything. He'd fight Mike Tyson. That's why we call him Baby Balls. Because he had a bottle of ketchup he was going to smash on his head. And everyone was like, putting down money to do it.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
And I'm like, dude can stop. Like, the glass on a ketchup bottle is like an inch thick. You're gonna cut your. You're not just gonna, like, get a bloody head. You're gonna cut your facial muscles. And you're gonna be Jean Chretien, the prime minister of Canada.
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Gavin McInnes
You're gonna look like the Nazis. Yeah.
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Danny
You're gonna be like, they made me smash a bottle of ketchup on my head. And I'm like, stop, dude. And he was. I had to hold the ketchup bottle. And then this dude, Trevor Sims, or Andrew wk's manager, goes, that guy's got balls. He's little, but he's got balls. He's Baby balls. So he became Baby balls forever. But what I did with Baby Balls, I was like, all right. Like, Puerto Ricans in New York. Major part of New York.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
U.S. upper middle class whites don't really know them. Although I do know. I don't know how raunchy we can.
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Gavin McInnes
Get in this show, but you can use raunches. You want? We can.
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Danny
We'll probably send the same guy, Trevor, and his. His buddy Mark Ryan. They were like, how come we lived in New York for like 20 years, no one's ever Puerto Rican? And they go, let's start in Puerto Ricans. So they go. They go up to them on the train and they're like, hi, my name is Trevor. Hi, my name is Mark. What's your name? And like, yo, I'm in. Maria, what's up? And then they cross streams where these cultures weren't meant to be together. So Mark is one of them, and he feels like something going on. So.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
Fishes his finger in there. He pulls out a condom. He was not wearing a condom.
[14:09]
Gavin McInnes
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Danny
It was still in there from another guy. Oh, and she's got pigtails and she's chewing gum and she's like this. And he goes, holy sh. And he goes, back to work.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
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Danny
But he's like, I just found a condom in there. And she goes, I know. That's bugged out, right? And I'm like, all right. We're not meant to be together. We're very different. So when Baby Boss started the advice, I go, let's live with these people. So we set up a thing where he lived with, like, a Puerto Rican family in the project. They might have been Dominican. Same, different Thomas. Liver a little blacker. Yeah. And, you know, it was a really cool expose on how different these cultures are. Like, one thing they do is they don't want roaches. So when they have it pizza, they put it in the sink, and then they soak it, and then they roll it into a tube and put it in the garbage. Some junkie uncle was there sleeping all day. Anyway, Baby Balls went on to have a pretty good career as an immersionist. And I think that's an important part of, like, modern culture is like, what are you guys doing? Yeah, and we don't do that anymore. We don't know anything about each other. Which is why you have this woman where white women, like, watch these movies where there's a bunch of Klansmen who were like, looky here, boys. This black lady thinks she could be a scientist. Not on my watch. Meanwhile, if there's a black woman that want to be a scientist, everyone would be off, like, come on in. Come on in. Do I sound crazy right now?
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about right now. Okay, so white women like to watch.
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Danny
White women like to watch movies and commercials where black. Where black women are geniuses and white men are complete idiots.
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Gavin McInnes
Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.
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Danny
Yeah. Like, can't put the furniture together. And the black woman comes in and she's like. It's called an Ali Key, moron.
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Gavin McInnes
Right.
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Danny
And then that's in their sitcoms and in their soap operas and their movies.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that's how they. That's how they try to make Hollywood diverse.
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Danny
Right? Like sinners. The new movie, sinners. It's these. These magical Negroes who work with vampires. And then the KKK is like, not on my watch, boy. Which may have been true at some point, but it's not who we are.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Did you watch any of the super bowl commercials last year? There were some interesting ones.
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Danny
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure I did.
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Gavin McInnes
There was the one with Tom Brady and who. Who else was. Was like an Israeli commercial. It was paid for by Israel, wasn't it?
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Danny
Are we going back to the Holocaust again? Is this, like a.
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Gavin McInnes
No.
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Danny
Anti Semitic hit piece?
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Gavin McInnes
No, no, it's not anti semitic. What was this commercial?
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Danny
Yeah, play it. What was this?
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Gavin McInnes
I could be wrong. I might just.
[18:12]
Danny
Is it this one?
[18:13]
Gavin McInnes
With my own. With Vince Vaugh? Yeah, that's it.
[18:18]
Danny
That's it.
[18:18]
Gavin McInnes
No, maybe that's not it. That's it. With. With. Yeah, this is it right here.
[18:21]
Danny
The.
[18:22]
Gavin McInnes
No. Hate one. Play this one.
[18:23]
Danny
I hate. Hate.
[18:23]
Gavin McInnes
Put your. Put your.
[18:24]
Danny
Have you seen this? Hate is one of my pet peeves.
[18:26]
Gavin McInnes
Have you seen this right here? Ask this commercial.
[18:29]
Danny
I don't know.
[18:29]
Gavin McInnes
Play it for him.
[18:30]
Danny
I hate you because we from different neighborhoods. I hate you because you look different. I hate you because I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. Wait, can we just pause it here?
[18:39]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, pause it.
[18:41]
Danny
So Snoop Dogg is from Compton.
[18:43]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[18:44]
Danny
Everyone in his community hates everyone else for being from the wrong neighborhood. Chinese even. Probably different black neighborhoods.
[18:55]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[18:55]
Danny
So he's mocking that culture. That's his culture. Tom Hardy.
[19:01]
Gavin McInnes
Tom Brady.
[19:01]
Danny
Tom Brady. Sorry. His neighborhood master to the Concept of any other neighborhood giving a about them. And they would love like, if they went to Harlem and they got high five, they would ejaculate in their pants. So. This is such horseshit. Snoop Dogg is lampooning this fictional black dude who is him. And Tom Brady is lampooning this dude who's not even remotely close to him. That's the thing that drives me nuts about this crusade against like Christian white heterosexual males. We need to expose their racism because it's latent they. I've known a lot of different demographics over the years. They are the least racist group I've ever come across in my life. Maybe to a fault, but like this guy and all his friends, if a black dude showed up to a party, I mean, he might get. It'd be like the Beatles in 1950. Like, he might have his clothes ripped off, but then he's like, I don't like blacks. They totally suck. Dude, finish.
[20:05]
Gavin McInnes
Finish playing it. I want to see the go to the end of it.
[20:07]
Danny
Cuz I need someone to blame. Cuz you talk different.
[20:10]
Gavin McInnes
Cuz you act different.
[20:11]
Danny
Cuz you're just different. Now you're as stupid as this man. I hate that things are so bad. What's commercial about it?
[20:24]
Gavin McInnes
Stand up to hate. Look. Paid for by the foundation to combat anti Semitism. Okay? That's what I was, right. I'm not crazy.
[20:31]
Danny
Take your head. You know, the problem with these ADL SPLC things is like, they give Jews a really bad name. And if I was in charge of Jews, yeah. I'd be like, all right, first of all, ADL's abolished. SBLC is abolished. Like, yay. Says the Jews control the banks and they freeze his bank accounts.
[20:51]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[20:52]
Danny
If I was in control of Jewish pr, I'd be like, guys, let him rant. Yeah, yeah, let him run. Enjoy it.
[21:00]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, we're.
[21:00]
Danny
We're validating everything he says. I remember. Who's that guy? He was Sid Vicious and Sid and Nancy. But he was in a Playboy interview. He's British guy. And he was like, you know, if I said that the Jews control Hollywood, I'll be forced to apologize the next day. He was severely canceled the next day and forced to apologize to the adl. Okay, well, you just proved his point. Guys, chill out. Meanwhile, as a white man, we are defecated upon every day and we just go, meh. As dads, we're defecated upon every day. We go, meh.
[21:40]
Gavin McInnes
Where do you live right now?
[21:41]
Danny
In Westchester, a suburb of New York. About.
[21:44]
Gavin McInnes
You lived in New York. For how long?
[21:46]
Danny
20 years.
[21:47]
Gavin McInnes
For 20 years?
[21:47]
Danny
Yeah.
[21:48]
Gavin McInnes
I wonder if that's like, why do you feel like that? You feel like you're the white man? The white Christian man's being on.
[21:55]
Danny
Wait, so hold on. You start this whole thing about how the Holocaust didn't happen.
[21:59]
Gavin McInnes
I didn't say the Holocaust didn't happen. I was telling you about the right.
[22:01]
Danny
Wing dude, and now you're like, why are you so obsessed with white dudes?
[22:05]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[22:05]
Danny
Are you, like, curious? Are you, like a left wing anti Semite?
[22:12]
Gavin McInnes
No, I'm not. Animal.
[22:13]
Danny
Where do I peg you? I don't think you can argue that if you watch commercials that white Christian heterosexual males are the whipping post of modern.
[22:24]
Gavin McInnes
No, I don't. I don't see that. Maybe it's because I live in Florida.
[22:26]
Danny
Are you doing, like, a character?
[22:28]
Gavin McInnes
No. Are you doing a character?
[22:30]
Danny
No.
[22:30]
Gavin McInnes
You're the guy.
[22:31]
Danny
Pull up a dude, go to live TV right now.
[22:34]
Gavin McInnes
I don't watch live TV commercial.
[22:36]
Danny
And there'll be some buffoon white guy trying to assemble an IKEA table while a black woman is like, okay, didn't.
[22:44]
Gavin McInnes
Trump just put somebody in his cabinet that's, like, in charge of, like, bolstering Christianity in America?
[22:50]
Danny
Yeah. An hour ago.
[22:53]
Gavin McInnes
That's like, at least a month and a half ago.
[22:55]
Danny
I'm sorry. A month and a half ago.
[22:58]
Gavin McInnes
Is it that good for white Christian people?
[23:01]
Danny
No, it's that bad. I think that. Here's the analogy I always use in my home, in my homestead. Yes. I don't even know what that word means. Does that mean like a commune in your own house?
[23:12]
Gavin McInnes
I don't know what homestead means.
[23:14]
Danny
If my children were to fart on my wife, they'd be in big trouble. You don't fart on Mom.
[23:21]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[23:21]
Danny
If you fart on me, it's funny, right? You got me. That was super stinky. Don't. Oh, geez. Yeah, because I can take it. My wife is the woman of the house, and she's. I don't know, she's not tough. So you can't punch her. You can punch me. We could do a thing. You can punch me three times. I'll punch you once. My wife would never sit there with our kids being like, okay, you punch me three times, I'll punch you once.
[23:48]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[23:49]
Danny
So I think that's indicative of a patriarchy, and it's indicative of modern society where I think we're buttholes on all commercials and in geopolitics and everything else, because we can take it and we're like, okay, yeah, yeah, I get it. And here's. I'm off on a tangent now, but here's something I've noticed with comedy, they want to be controversial. They can't be racist, they can't mock Judaism, they can't mock Islam, they can sort of mock Christianity, but it's bad for business. So they tend to make really inappropriate child jokes, which I'm fine with. If that's your thing. You're like the controversial show, but you got to spread it out with like racism and other very controversial things. But if you watch like snl, the only time they get dangerous is like an incestuous mother who's in love with her 20 year old son and it ends up being this imbalance where kids are the only people we can with. And that's gross. If you're going to do controversial comedy, you got to spread the diarrhea around.
[25:00]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[25:00]
Danny
On every religious. Yes. Old people, ageism, sexism, homophobia, like, you gotta spread it all around. But the way it's going these days is it's just like, I want to a kid, which. Okay.
[25:12]
Gavin McInnes
Really? I've never seen any comedy like that.
[25:15]
Danny
Oh, yeah.
[25:16]
Gavin McInnes
I mean, I haven't been around comedy as long as you have, but I've watched a lot of comedy specials, been to a lot of comedy shows.
[25:20]
Danny
But like, here's an example. SNL had this like quizzy game show I'm sure you could watch. And it was like the Newlyweds game type of show.
[25:29]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[25:29]
Danny
And it's. That was big in the 80s. Like, what's the craziest place you and your husband ever made whoopee? They called it whoopee back then. And one of the women was like, in the bum. And everyone's like, what the. We met a crazy location. So they were kind of parodying that. And it was. The couples were all weird, but they were, you know, normal. And then one of the couples was a mother and her son, and her son was like, I don't know, 19 in the sketch. Very gross, very weird. But you're like, okay, I'm watching the gross weird comedy show. I can handle that. But the next joke better be the most racist I've ever seen.
[26:10]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[26:10]
Danny
And the next joke better be the most anti Semitic I've ever seen. But they're too scared of those. So now when you see controversial comedy, it's just like, kids, huh? Which is disgusting out of context.
[26:24]
Gavin McInnes
Why do you think that is?
[26:25]
Danny
Because kids can't fight back.
[26:27]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[26:28]
Danny
Yeah. If you make fun of Jews, you're going to get the ADL and the in sblc. You make fun of Muslims, you're going to get the Muslim Brotherhood. Make fun of blacks, you're going to get blm. There's going to be riots in the street. Everyone's going to get fired. Make fun of kids, they're at school, they just suffer. And that's the sign of a declining society when you prey on the weak. So what seems like a throwaway joke is actually a harbinger of the apocalypse.
[26:59]
Gavin McInnes
At what point did you transition from male to female?
[27:06]
Danny
I told you that was a secret. I asked you not to bring it up on the show.
[27:09]
Gavin McInnes
I'm sorry. Well.
[27:10]
Danny
And you betrayed us and you betrayed our NDA.
[27:13]
Gavin McInnes
Yes. What I was going to ask was at what point did you transition into this guy, this clean cut guy with the mustache and the combed hair that talks about all this stuff all the time? I mean, I, I, like, I never changed. I never changed.
[27:30]
Danny
I never changed.
[27:31]
Gavin McInnes
Let me kind of give some context. I watched the Thomas Morton documentary that he made and it was fascinating. I don't, I don't want to like, say that I thought what he did.
[27:40]
Danny
That thought I got a piss. I really broke the seal hard.
[27:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, you did. We got to get you a bucket. Sit next to you.
[27:46]
Danny
I, I, if you want to get like five solo cups, I'm fine with that too.
[27:49]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[27:50]
Danny
So you saw it's not funny anymore.
[27:52]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, I watched the documentary. I had to get a vpn, like, go like sign up for their this weird platform and I had to lie about my address being in Canada, but I was able to watch it.
[28:01]
Danny
Are you Canadian?
[28:02]
Gavin McInnes
No.
[28:02]
Danny
All right. Dumb question.
[28:05]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, that's cool. You still got your, your vice ring?
[28:08]
Danny
No, I don't.
[28:09]
Gavin McInnes
Does it now say vice on it?
[28:10]
Danny
Says hate. Hate.
[28:12]
Gavin McInnes
Wow. It's the same style as the vice rings.
[28:15]
Danny
Yeah, I, that was my idea. That was my, with rings, I get fights in New York. Brass knuckles send you to jail. And I didn't have my citizenship then. I was worried about being deported. If you wear rings, yeah, you can fight all night. And if you get these Puerto Rican style things with the hard edges, you're going to rip someone's face.
[28:34]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, yeah. That would not be good.
[28:35]
Danny
I'm actually not supposed to say that on air.
[28:37]
Gavin McInnes
Oh.
[28:37]
Danny
Because they could say you knew that those rings would do damage.
[28:41]
Gavin McInnes
But do you want me to remove it or can I keep it in? All right, cool.
[28:45]
Danny
Lawyers.
[28:46]
Gavin McInnes
But it seems like, like he went and he interviewed all of your friends, all your like childhood friends. Yeah, all these, I mean, I mean no one really had anything really bad.
[28:56]
Danny
To say because I am a good guy.
[28:58]
Gavin McInnes
Right. They were all just kind of fascinated by your, this evolution of you going from like the early crazy guy vice days, swinging your around the office and doing coke to like this crazy right wing.
[29:12]
Danny
No, I would deny that they weren't fascinated by that. Anyone who knows me knows that there wasn't a change. This is the problem with these. Like when he did that documentary, he showed me these cards and he was.
[29:24]
Gavin McInnes
Like, I saw that.
[29:25]
Danny
Why did you become a Nazi? Were you beaten? Did you fall down the stairs? Did you read see some documentary? And I'm like, wait a minute. The problem is your hypothesis. It's like me doing a documentary on why you became gay, right? And I'm like, what happened? And I have all these theories. Like you saw a musical, you got involved in ballet, you listened to disco and you're like, these are all great theories. I'm not gay. So when he showed me all those, I go, dude, I thought you had a high iq. This is. Your hypothesis is wrong.
[29:57]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[29:58]
Danny
And the media's perception is that I went right. But the thing you got to understand about pre Trump hipster America, like for lack of a better word, cool culture.
[30:08]
Gavin McInnes
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[31:27]
Danny
We all had that going on, like amphetamine reptile records. Tom Hazelmeyer, he named his daughter Reagan. And we're like, oh, that's the right wing guy. Johnny Ramone said, kill a commie for mommy. You know, Fear had a big, like, American Eagle on their records. Yeah, yeah, Gangrene were all about Budweiser.
[31:53]
Gavin McInnes
No, like the Meat Men, the early punk people were like, Liberal.
[31:56]
Danny
And this is 80s, like, right. The Meat Men were like, I'm glad I'm not a girl. They have to sit down to pee. The forgotten rebels. Bomb the boats, feed the fish. Now, obviously, punk was definitely left leaning, but there was a. You could be weird and controversial and nothing. I used to wear a shirt that said speak English and it had a little American flag there. And I would hang out with David Cross and like all these Patton Oswalt and John Benjamin and Todd Berry. And they were all like, oh, that's Gavin and his kooky. I just. Screwdriver belt buckle. And David Cross would say, where'd you get that? Like, he wanted one. Now, I'm obviously not a fan of screwdriver, but it was just like. It was sort of like the punks in the 70s having swastikas or Gigi Allen.
[32:44]
Gavin McInnes
I don't think anybody listening to this will even know anything about Screwdriver, which is funny.
[32:48]
Danny
They were a super offensive, like, white power Nazi band. So you're just like, I got something to say. For example, Robert Crumb, he did this comic called. And you could. I'll censor myself. But when the King Ends, Take over the world. And he did another three page comic called when the God J's Take over the World. And they were both. That one was a parody of racism. The other is parody of anti Semitism. But there was a picture of like these blacks that he drew. And it's like, you see these ends? They hate you. So I put that on a T shirt with screwdriver on it and it was like, like the most offensive shit you could have. And it's obviously not serious, right? And then with Trump, the nuance was gone and there was no way to joke around anymore. And they kicked us out of culture. The nuanced right was kicked out of culture in 2015. And when I say the nuanced right, I mean Anyone who would dare even look into that shit. We weren't deaf. Like, it's not like we were real Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan guys. But we. We're interested in Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchana. Let's check it out. And there was a whole. There was a. There was a spectrum. That's. That's what I should say. The spectrum died with jump. And they were like, you're 100% with us, 100% against us. All of you. You. And it was such a weird time. Like. Like this dude, John Glazer. We were best friends. Not best friends, but our families would go on vacation together. He's a comedy writer guy. And our thing, me and him, was women are inept at loading the dishwasher. It's mind blowing. Every time I load the dishwasher, it looks like a commercial for dishwashers, bowls, plates. And I look at my wife, and she's just, like, plopping a bowl upright, like, on the top shelf. Honey, that's just going to load with water. It's not getting washed.
[34:52]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[34:53]
Danny
Yeah. You never seen a woman load a dishwasher?
[34:55]
Gavin McInnes
My wife loves the dishwasher. Great.
[34:56]
Danny
You're wrong. I'm not wrong. She does. She's a dude.
[35:00]
Gavin McInnes
My problem.
[35:00]
Danny
Have you seen her genitalia?
[35:03]
Gavin McInnes
My problem with the dishwasher is it doesn't clean shit.
[35:05]
Danny
Yeah. I agree with you 100%. And that it takes. My dishwasher is two hours.
[35:11]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[35:11]
Danny
Yes, it's two hours. Because if Biden is not Biden, just. But like, this modern shit with, like, eco stuff. I have an 80s house and I have a bar in the basement. The dishwasher is from the 80s. Dude, you could put. I don't know, King Tut's fucking. You could put his coffin in there and it would come out sparkling bright because they boil up the water and. Anyway, we're off on a tangent here. But anyway, I would get back and forth with John about dishwasher shit. You know, you have certain friends, like Lily Gaddis on our site. We send each other pictures of people at airports wearing pajamas and Crocs. That's our entire text. There's no other discussion. You know, you lock in with someone and you're like, that's my guy. Like, you have a friend in Ireland and you're like, ireland had another African kill an old couple. And yeah, you don't send him anything. Like, I'm feeling upset, but I don't feel like my wife loves me anymore. That's a Different texting.
[36:08]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[36:08]
Danny
So John sent me a text that was like, hey, man, I think, you know, you knew this was coming, but obviously I. I have a awesome dishwasher picture to send you. But I. I can't, because you know what's coming. And I'm like, what's coming? And he goes, trump. Because he knew I supported Trump. And 2015, 2016 was this crazy split that was unprecedented. Like, when we were kids, when I was a kid in the 70s, you had no clue who your neighbor voted for.
[36:43]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[36:44]
Danny
And then all of a sudden, it was 100 with us. 100% against us.
[36:47]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[36:48]
Danny
And. And then they had to explain why Gavin is no longer our friend. And I'm not the only Gavin, by the way. There's probably 50 million. No, there's probably 150 million gavins in this analogy. But they go, yeah, he. He joined the Nazi cult. He's a racist. And then instead of going, really? Aren't his kids, like, Native American? They go, no, let's find out why he's a racist. And Thomas Sowell talked about this. He goes, you can go from a liberal to a conservative without changing your views when the media's narrative shifts.
[37:26]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[37:27]
Danny
And I'm a socially liberal, fiscally conservative libertarian for strong borders. That was Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton in 2004. That was Barack Obama in 2004. It's also normal Archie Bunker dad politics. Like, do you want your dad to be pro trans? That's gay.
[37:47]
Gavin McInnes
That is pretty gay.
[37:47]
Danny
Yeah.
[37:48]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that's.
[37:48]
Danny
Your dad was like, don't hurt trans kids.
[37:52]
Gavin McInnes
What's that quote? I think I heard you say this quote, which I love. It said, if you're not a liberal, I'm gonna butcher it. You can probably say it better if you're not a liberal.
[37:59]
Danny
Churchill pushed it a lot. I don't know if you meant it. If you're not. If you're not a conservative. No, if you're not a liberal. I think he said socialist. If you're not a socialist when you're young, you have no heart.
[38:10]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[38:10]
Danny
And if you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain. I mean, a conservative is just a liberal who got mugged. And if you ever make. Start making money, which I assume you are this Escape from New York set.
[38:22]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[38:22]
Danny
You've got to be conservative because you can get your check and you see how much the government took, and you go, what the fuck?
[38:30]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[38:32]
Danny
And then you go, okay, well, the roads are going to be like a skate park when I go outside. No, the roads are in Iraq. Oh, the education is going to be mind blowing. My kids are going to be Benjamin Franklin. No, your kids don't know who Benjamin Franklin is. They're reading a George Takei graphic novel about internment camps. Okay, well, what am I getting for my money? Pete Buttigieg. Blowing up train tracks.
[38:57]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[38:58]
Danny
With toxic chemicals.
[38:59]
Gavin McInnes
CIA operations in the Ukraine.
[39:01]
Danny
I'm okay to. I'm open to socialism if the money goes where I want it to go.
[39:06]
Gavin McInnes
If you could pick where your taxes go.
[39:08]
Danny
They always brag about northern Europe. I might be a socialist in Finland. I was in Boston recently and I hadn't been there in years. And I was at a bar and everyone was white and everything was organized. There was no skells, there's no crackheads around. And I go, oh, I get why they're so left wing up here. Because they don't see the scammers and the junkies and the EBT cards at strip clubs and the constant.
[39:34]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[39:34]
Danny
Violence against police.
[39:36]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[39:36]
Danny
So they're like, we need to be more generous.
[39:40]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. It's like that in Denmark too, where they're like, I think even the women in the maternity leave in Denmark is like a year and a half or something insane.
[39:47]
Danny
Sounds great.
[39:48]
Gavin McInnes
And they pay and they pay them. I think they pay moms. Like, if you have a kid, they just like pay you like an extra five grand a month. It's ridiculous.
[39:54]
Danny
I hate that too, because you're comparing apples and oranges. Like America has it had 30 million illegals before Biden. I think it has 40 now. Right.
[40:07]
Gavin McInnes
You're probably right about that.
[40:08]
Danny
He let in 12 million more than Ellis island in his total 80 year history. We also have this insane, very unique obesity problem.
[40:18]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Where you go, poor people are obese. Isn't that strange?
[40:21]
Danny
Yeah, our poor eat too much. As John Stossel said, that's our biggest problem is our poor eat too much.
[40:25]
Gavin McInnes
And they eat garbage.
[40:26]
Danny
You go to Disneyland and it's just spheres everywhere. Human spheres.
[40:31]
Gavin McInnes
So driving around in those little carts.
[40:34]
Danny
Dude, talk to a surgeon, man. They don't know what to do with these fucking pigs. Like my dad. My dad is a drunk and he was like fixing some branch at like three in the morning with a chainsaw. And he's like, this is dangerous. So I'll put on three hats, right? Because there's nothing safer than three wool hats. And I'll put on two jackets in case I get hit. So he was like tying up branches and he actually ended up making a Gavin's dad, killing machine, where when he finally released the branches, it went whack and it sent him flying through the air. And his ladder, he landed. He broke his back in 15 places.
[41:13]
Gavin McInnes
Jesus Christ.
[41:14]
Danny
Yeah, it was rough. He wore a turtle shell for like a year. But they went in there, they fixed them all with pins.
[41:20]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[41:21]
Danny
And the surgeon goes, I gotta say, man, my dad's skinny. Cause drunks don't eat.
[41:25]
Gavin McInnes
Because what don't eat.
[41:26]
Danny
Drunks don't eat, okay? In fact, they starve to death. But we still, we try to get them Chinese food.
[41:32]
Gavin McInnes
What's the difference between a drunk and alcoholic?
[41:34]
Danny
Great question.
[41:36]
Gavin McInnes
I think it's.
[41:36]
Danny
I think drunk. Funny. Alcoholics are sad.
[41:39]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[41:40]
Danny
An alcoholic is, like, at the bar at 9. A drunk is at the bar at 3.
[41:45]
Gavin McInnes
Right. And usually the drunks don't go to meetings either.
[41:47]
Danny
No. So the surgeon goes, I gotta say, man, this is what we went to medical school for. Like, you cut open the skin and the spine's right there. These tubs of. You cut open the belly, it just goes. And so you fix what you got to fix. You have all this yellow fat. You close it, there's this vacuum trying to open it back up again. So they. They rip the sutures up constantly.
[42:18]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[42:19]
Danny
Because there's this, like, opening here. You can't stitch fat.
[42:22]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[42:23]
Danny
So don't tell me about Denmark. Don't tell me about Medicare. Don't tell me about even England where there's still plenty of fatties. We are unlike any other country in the world. We were built on guns and violence. We took over the most powerful, you know, empire in the world at the time. And you're like, well, actually in Finland, you know, they get paid in oranges. Okay, that sounds nice. We're not doing that here. Actually, there's a train in Beijing that can get you to Shanghai in an hour. Okay. We got cars here, dude. We're pioneers.
[43:01]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. I want to hear more about your Disney cruise. Where was that?
[43:04]
Danny
Oh, my God, don't get me started.
[43:06]
Gavin McInnes
Did you see a lot of these fatties on your Disney cruise? And also, do the people. Are you aware of, like, there's these people that are influencers and all they do is go to Disneyland and they.
[43:15]
Danny
Teach you how to go to Disneyland.
[43:17]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, and they're. They're full blown adults.
[43:19]
Danny
I saw a video an hour ago about some new park, Epic Universal or something, and there's all These adults, like 40 years old, running and screaming. It's because. Okay, just to go back a little Bit Harris, what's his name on Infowars was talking about this. Asians, liberal women, blacks, gays. If we only let them vote, everything would be blue. The only place that would turn America red is white males. So let's make everything against white males. And part of that is don't breed. And when they say don't breed, blacks and Hispanics, don't listen to that, Right? So when you say don't breed, white women hear it and they're like, okay, done. So you have this paternal instinct. So you, like, you become a fur mom and you. You adopt rescues. But you also become obsessed with Disney because it's like a fake mommy thing where, I don't know, your husband's your baby. I don't know who the kid is in this scenario, but you are. So. It's a disgusting, sad culture that's pathetic and embarrassing. It's why I started the Proud Boys, actually.
[44:22]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[44:23]
Danny
Because our producer, your guy, was 23, a virgin. He went to Disneyland with his friends, didn't get wasted and didn't anyone. And I'm like, I'm okay going to Disneyland if you're in the butthole surfers and you guys do lsd. And it's ironic, but this was not ironic. So anyway, my Disney story is, yes, tons of fatties on the cruise. The thing about cruise people is they're not adventurous. You'll have to stop me because I have nine hours on Disney cruises.
[44:57]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really? Okay.
[44:58]
Danny
But they're on these, like, Rascals. There's a. In one part of the hallway, there's like a chart that shows you where you are on the cruise. The fatties have. That's their elephant's graveyard. They pilgrimage over there, and then they just look at the chart of where they are. You know, when you're on a plane, you can see where the plane is.
[45:21]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[45:21]
Danny
You look at it for like four seconds. Okay, we're near Ireland. Anyway, back to my movie.
[45:26]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[45:26]
Danny
They're just like. That's so insane.
[45:32]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, it's a. You're. It's a floating shopping mall.
[45:35]
Danny
And you got to understand, like, travel is semi adventurous. Right. If you're on a cruise, you're not an adventurous person, so you're not social. So at one point, I'm the, The. The. The lawn chairs are all touching. So I'm about to get in bed with two men. Like, our shoulders might even physically touch. So I gotta say something, and I throw up my towel. I don't even know why I'm doing this. And I'm like, alrighty, here we go. And the guys don't go, like getting kind of too close for comforter. It's some little dumb joke or come on in the water is fine. Or some dumb. Yeah, they don't do whips. Yeah. Break the ice. They just stay like this. Like I had facial tattoos and I do have a lot of tattoos. So. Okay, let's take me out of the equation. So my wife's at the bar and this woman's getting a drink and it's like 3 o' clock. And she goes, I'll get a margarita. And my wife's behind her and we're trying to socialize a little bit. I didn't have my third kid. I had a four year old and a two year old. So she gets a margarita. And then my wife does super generic social shit where she goes, it's five o' clock somewhere. And. And the woman goes like, put the camera on me. The woman goes.
[46:51]
Gavin McInnes
Like.
[46:52]
Danny
I'm like, did we r Pe Mickey Mouse? And I wasn't told about it. Brutal. And the cabin is. You're on an ocean all night.
[47:06]
Gavin McInnes
Really.
[47:06]
Danny
The only way I could sleep is I pretended I was a billionaire and I was on my own private jet where. Yeah, it's pretty loud. I'm going over Dubai, so the only people I could talk to were the staff. So that's why I feel so comfortable here because I was in the gallows. Because my wife goes to bed early, she's a squaw, doesn't drink. So like 9 o', clock, I have no one to hang out with. And the nerd Gen Xers are, I don't know, playing shuffleboard and drinking pina coladas. So I just hung out with the staff the whole time.
[47:39]
Gavin McInnes
That's so funny.
[47:40]
Danny
And do not go on a cruise.
[47:42]
Gavin McInnes
No, cruises suck balls. The. You don't want to go. You don't want to travel or go anywhere. Like the. The best part about traveling is getting in weird situations where you might die.
[47:53]
Danny
Thank you.
[47:53]
Gavin McInnes
I think.
[47:54]
Danny
And even with a family, the best part of traveling is like finding a weird place. Like in St. Martin, there's this beach, it's all French people and they serve like cheeseburgers and beer and the kids can play on the beach and. Yeah, no one knows about it. And that's your little, you know, your hidden spot.
[48:10]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right.
[48:11]
Danny
That's fun.
[48:12]
Gavin McInnes
Going somewhere in a car where you're driving on the wrong side of the road and you pull up to some weird cutout beach. Cutout where There's a guy balleting cars here. You're not sure if he's gonna kill or mug you.
[48:24]
Danny
Thank you.
[48:25]
Gavin McInnes
That's. That's the exciting part about travel. You're not going to get that on a cruise ship.
[48:28]
Danny
No.
[48:29]
Gavin McInnes
Get your hair braided.
[48:29]
Danny
Maybe if you go on a cruise ship. You're a loser. Sorry.
[48:32]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[48:32]
Danny
It's a mall.
[48:33]
Gavin McInnes
It is.
[48:34]
Danny
And now it's a can get omal.
[48:37]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[48:37]
Danny
So, yeah, they've gotten way worse. I think they got destroyed by Covid. They had to lower their prices and now it's just the hood, so. Don't do that.
[48:47]
Gavin McInnes
Where did your cruise go? Like, where was it? Where was it out of.
[48:53]
Danny
It went through the Caribbean, you know, Tobago, St. Martin. We. We actually, we stopped at St. Martin and we went to some weird little like working class French with the cheeseburgers and the beach went on for hours. And I'm like, we have to get back on the cruise. So we, like, made a note and then we went on a vacation. The next year we just went there. Saint Martin is awesome. I love Saint Martin.
[49:15]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, it's great.
[49:16]
Danny
Saint Martin, Jamaica is so dangerous that when you go somewhere it's razor wired in and you're in like a little aquarium.
[49:25]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[49:26]
Danny
But Saint Martin is open. It's. It's the best place in the Caribbean.
[49:30]
Gavin McInnes
I used to do a ton of traveling through the Caribbean and all around, like, South America to film surfing back.
[49:36]
Danny
Oh, really? Do you surf?
[49:38]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Well, not as much as I used.
[49:39]
Danny
To, but surfing's not possible.
[49:42]
Gavin McInnes
It's not possible.
[49:42]
Danny
It's a myth. I'm like a flat earther with surfing.
[49:45]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[49:45]
Danny
It's. It's fake.
[49:46]
Gavin McInnes
What do you mean by that?
[49:48]
Danny
It can't. I tried it. It can't. Those guys must be CGI'd because you get out to the waves and by the time you get to the spot, your arms are Grover spaghetti.
[50:00]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[50:00]
Danny
And now you have to be stronger than ever.
[50:02]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[50:03]
Danny
Because you have to ride with the wave.
[50:04]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[50:05]
Danny
I just. I'm toast. I just did 750 push ups.
[50:08]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. It's brutal.
[50:09]
Danny
Those gu. What the is going on?
[50:11]
Gavin McInnes
Insane. Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a different kind of cardio that you build over a long holy.
[50:17]
Danny
It's like hockey.
[50:17]
Gavin McInnes
It's insane.
[50:18]
Danny
You play for four minutes and you start puking your guts.
[50:21]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Yeah. That's literally like. It's the most hardcore cardio you've ever done for. Like, you probably spend. If you go out surfing in like big waves for two, three hours. You're spending maybe 10 minutes out of that three hours.
[50:34]
Danny
They have no upper body strength. How do they get out there?
[50:37]
Gavin McInnes
Women.
[50:38]
Danny
A Jet Ski.
[50:39]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. It's weird. I've been like, go to Pipeline in Hawaii, which is like the most dangerous wave in the world. And you're surfing over AI Razor Sharp Reef. That's like that far under the wave. And there's like 8 year olds out there surfing that. It's crazy.
[50:57]
Danny
It's grok Grock. Made them. They're not.
[51:00]
Gavin McInnes
Made them.
[51:01]
Danny
Yeah, it's not. It's not possible.
[51:05]
Gavin McInnes
And it's funny. One of the guys I used to film with, he. He's how I discovered Vice, because he got a job with Vice.
[51:12]
Danny
What year was that? God. You mean Jake?
[51:15]
Gavin McInnes
No, Jerry.
[51:15]
Danny
Ah.
[51:16]
Gavin McInnes
Do you know Jerry?
[51:17]
Danny
No.
[51:18]
Gavin McInnes
He was good friends with Jake.
[51:19]
Danny
He filmed. Oh, you know Jake.
[51:21]
Gavin McInnes
I know. I don't know him personally, but I know who he is.
[51:22]
Danny
Great guy. You know what I love about Jake? And it's an inspiration for all dads everywhere. His dad was like a Jeff Spicoli guy, and he would go to his school and be like, jake's got a dentist appointment. And they're like, really? I don't have that on the files here. He's like, yeah, it's really bad. He's got, like, cavities and shit. So I'd be like, jake, you're just Macaulay dad is taking to the dentist. And he'd be like, he knew what it was. And he'd get in the truck, surfboards in the back, and his dad would just shred all day.
[52:01]
Gavin McInnes
That's awesome.
[52:02]
Danny
And I'm like, I want to be like that. I want to be like Jake's dad.
[52:04]
Gavin McInnes
So Jerry, I think. I think, went with Jake to North Korea to film that North Korea thing.
[52:08]
Danny
Ah.
[52:09]
Gavin McInnes
And a bunch of other stuff. Jerry filmed the whole noisy. I don't know. I don't know how much you followed it after you left, but that was all after you. I discovered it after. I think you left. You left in, like, 2008.
[52:17]
Danny
2008. North Korea was like, around my time.
[52:20]
Gavin McInnes
That was around your time.
[52:21]
Danny
Yeah. Some very dubious things about that. Like, really gotta understand, you can't bribe your way into North Korea. It's not like Morocco, Right. So if. If you filmed anything in North Korea, you were allowed to film it. There's no, like, there's no way to do North Korea edgy. It's like doing a Soviet union edgy in 1985. Like, it's just. It's. That's not what happened. And there's no hidden camera, but they.
[52:49]
Gavin McInnes
So they got in there with Dennis Rodman. He got him in, right?
[52:52]
Danny
Yeah. That was all fake, too, like that. Not fake, but that was all sanctioned, I should say.
[52:56]
Gavin McInnes
Right. They were like. Dennis was like their tour guide, and they gave him a tour through.
[53:01]
Danny
Well, they'd already been, I think, so it was. The second time was with Dennis Rodman.
[53:06]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[53:06]
Danny
Yeah. That intellectual Dennis Rodman. Yeah.
[53:11]
Gavin McInnes
He's a funny guy.
[53:12]
Danny
I don't know. They. They really botched that, I think.
[53:15]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[53:15]
Danny
As far as I'm concerned, yeah.
[53:16]
Gavin McInnes
Do you think. How long do you think it took for Vice to start going downhill after you left?
[53:20]
Danny
Well, here's the beauty of that. I want the narrative to be they got rid of Gavin and they went bankrupt. Right.
[53:28]
Gavin McInnes
It was the opposite.
[53:30]
Danny
Yeah. But here's the thing. The way history is written, they did insanely good for 15 years. But over time, that 15 years is going to compress, and it'll be like God were to give. And they went broke. Not true. But that's the way history works these days. So I think they were really good after I left for at least five years, which I did not like.
[53:59]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[53:59]
Danny
That made me very upset.
[54:00]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[54:00]
Danny
I wanted them to bomb the next day. But it is. It's also not what I'm interested in. I can hate traveling. I'm a Western chauvinist.
[54:07]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[54:07]
Danny
I hate.
[54:08]
Gavin McInnes
Didn't you live in Thailand?
[54:10]
Danny
I lived in Taiwan.
[54:11]
Gavin McInnes
Taiwan.
[54:12]
Danny
And I can hate China. I hate Taiwan. I hate. I hate Eastern culture. I hate them all. Them all right. Like, deeply. I deeply hate them.
[54:22]
Gavin McInnes
Why so deep of a hatred?
[54:24]
Danny
They're just not us.
[54:25]
Gavin McInnes
Did that develop when you were living in Taiwan?
[54:28]
Danny
Sure. Maybe. Yeah, sure. Here's my new thing. This is a new thing I have this week.
[54:32]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[54:33]
Danny
I hate closeted. It's.
[54:37]
Gavin McInnes
Why do you hate closet?
[54:38]
Danny
It's 2025. Why are you lying? It's like lying about being circumcised at this point. Like, why are you wasting my time? My uncle was a closet of who died in the closet. And I realized I never really knew him. Like, he would be very gregarious when he was drunk, but outside of that, he'd be, like, stracking the straight guy. And I'm like, okay, well, I never got to know you face. And I used to spend the summers in Scotland. So, like, we had thousands of hours just flushed down the toilet because you're scared to be gay. And I totally get being scared to be gay in the 50s, gotcha. 80s, 90s, 2000s, right off golf.
[55:15]
Gavin McInnes
You don't have to be scared to be gay now.
[55:17]
Danny
Nowadays you have to be scared to me not be gay if you're in school, if you're 11 and you're like, I think I like girls. You're going to go through conversion therapy.
[55:26]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[55:27]
Danny
Maybe in New York we'll show you pictures of so until you like it. So, yeah, duplicitous people piss me off.
[55:36]
Gavin McInnes
And like that down here.
[55:38]
Danny
I that's why I'm a Western chauvinist, because Western culture is like, Especially like Northeast American culture is like, on your face.
[55:45]
Gavin McInnes
On my face?
[55:46]
Danny
No, no, that's how they talk. So you had a big wart there?
[55:49]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[55:49]
Danny
I'd be like, dude, what, can you not like freeze that or what is that? Like, put a dental floss around it and it'll fall off or something. Like, we say what's on our mind. And you know, Europeans aren't really like that, but Eastern people are just not like that.
[56:04]
Gavin McInnes
And I, I, well, that's more like New York culture. It's not really like all of America. Right. Like the west coast, they're like, they're weird, disingenuous, all about.
[56:12]
Danny
Yeah, that's a bastardized version of us. I don't know what happened there.
[56:16]
Gavin McInnes
New York is more like, we can make fun of anybody. We'll on you and laugh at it.
[56:20]
Danny
Right. Like Joe Rogan says, it's. It's like women and men, Men will talk about you to your face, then behind your back say, you're the greatest guy that ever lived.
[56:28]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[56:28]
Danny
Women will flatter you to your face and then talk about your behind you.
[56:32]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[56:32]
Danny
Yeah, that woman culture is Eastern culture. It's Asian culture. It's. I don't know about Russian culture, but it's like all other cultures. And I, I was like, I saw this woman in Taipei when I lived there, and she just got railed by a car.
[56:47]
Gavin McInnes
Hey, guys, if you're not already subscribed, please hammer the subscribe button below and hit the like button on the video back to the show.
[56:53]
Danny
And she was bleeding like a stuck pig.
[56:55]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, God.
[56:55]
Danny
But they don't show emotion in Asian culture. And Taipei is Taiwan. It's capitalist. China is communist. But they act the same. Just one group has more money. They're still the same people. And she's standing there waiting for the ambulance. Blood is gushing out of her leg, and she's just like. And I'm like go ow, say ow.
[57:17]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[57:18]
Danny
Your knees falling off. But they don't. They have. They call it honor, but it's just like dis. Dishonesty, really.
[57:25]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Well, what about the guy who lit himself on fire during the Vietnam War and just sat there, didn't even blink. Yeah, that's the epitome of that, right? Like, yeah, you don't.
[57:34]
Danny
Like, we're doing that now.
[57:35]
Gavin McInnes
You wanted that guy to be screaming.
[57:37]
Danny
Yeah, but we have that now. We're. That we're. We're taking on eastern culture. How many burners have we had this year? We had the dude in front of Trump's trial who lit himself on fire. We had the guy in front of the Israeli embassy who said, free Palestine, he lit himself on fire. And then all the lefties were like, you're a white dude. And I'm like, they don't like you, man. Yeah, you burned yourself alive. And they're all like, you don't have the right to fucking co opt our revolution. Imagine you light yourself on fire and you go to heaven or hell, I guess, and people like, nope, sorry, whitey, not on my watch. And you're like, I thought that was pretty good. Lighting myself on fire. I guess I didn't make the cuts.
[58:21]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[58:21]
Danny
Okay, sorry. What should I do next time? Light my whole family on fire?
[58:27]
Gavin McInnes
What specifically were you doing in Taiwan? Why were you living there?
[58:32]
Danny
So when I graduated high college, which was a dumb waste of time, there were no jobs, and I'd been a bike messenger in Montreal, which was. I'd rather French kiss my dad than do that again. That was fucking. Imagine the winters in Montreal on a mountain bike. No, I can't remember going through the snow at 5 in the morning.
[58:54]
Gavin McInnes
No. Fuck no.
[58:56]
Danny
So you could make 20 bucks an hour back then, teaching English. Minimum wage was five bucks an hour. So you could make fucking banks. And you go there and Chinese people just come up to you and they're like, you'll be at a fucking drugstore buying toothpaste. And like, can I talk to you, please? And they give you your address, Their address, and you'd set up appointments. So I had a whole schedule of these people. And I came back with like 10 grand.
[59:25]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, wow.
[59:26]
Danny
Which doesn't sound like a lot now, but when you're 22. I was a fucking billionaire and I was there for about six months. You know, it's weird. I could not get Asian pussy to save my life.
[59:42]
Gavin McInnes
How old were you?
[59:43]
Danny
21. Really? The facial hair. And I need facial hair because I don't have a chin. So I make a fake chin out of hair. It's a Potemkin village of chin. But Asians hate hair. They're freaked out by it. But.
[59:59]
Gavin McInnes
So you get any Asian posting when you were there?
[60:01]
Danny
Zero. But I had my pick of the whites because the white there was three. I three.
[60:10]
Gavin McInnes
The whole population, dude.
[60:12]
Danny
I this one girl who would get goose pimples when she came.
[60:15]
Gavin McInnes
Goose pimples?
[60:16]
Danny
Oh, wow. I haven't experienced that before. Since.
[60:18]
Gavin McInnes
I've experienced that before.
[60:19]
Danny
I. I used to. I had a saying Chinese every time something went wrong or some with them. And she dumped me for being racist. And I'm like, I. You know, they say white, black people can't be racist because they're a minority. I was a minority. Can I say Chinese in China? And I believe Taiwan's in China. But yeah, I did very well with white there. But yeah, could not slay any yellow. What a crime.
[60:51]
Gavin McInnes
And the whole thing with vice. So when in 2008, I believe it was. That is when. Oh, these are great. I'm gonna have one too.
[60:57]
Danny
The whole thing, calm energy, magic. That'd be funny if it was just a brain stimulus. It was just Xanax and Adderall in green water. They get busted, three years later, massive scandal.
[61:11]
Gavin McInnes
It's definitely not a Adderall. Have you done a podcast on Adderall? It's the worst experience ever.
[61:20]
Danny
I wouldn't know what that's like. Anyway, next question. The guy probably sounded like a freak. Anyway, so many questions. Why don't we try to narrow it down? Anyway, what's this?
[61:36]
Gavin McInnes
Are you an Adderall right now?
[61:38]
Danny
No. Can I get another beer?
[61:41]
Gavin McInnes
I was debating on eating one today.
[61:42]
Danny
Dude, I walked in. I won't give away your location. Yeah, but I walked into a bar this morning at 11am that one right there.
[61:49]
Gavin McInnes
Yes, that's a great bar.
[61:50]
Danny
And they go, you want a shot? As I walk in, they. Yes.
[61:55]
Gavin McInnes
They just looked at you and thought you would need a shot.
[61:57]
Danny
Well, apparently it was. The tequila reps were in town and they buy a bottle and then they give everyone free shots.
[62:06]
Gavin McInnes
I.
[62:07]
Danny
It's a great bar, by the way.
[62:08]
Gavin McInnes
It is a great bar.
[62:09]
Danny
My buddy's local.
[62:10]
Gavin McInnes
There's their. Their food is surprisingly good too, which is weird. I bet you the kitchen is nasty.
[62:16]
Danny
Food is a fad. Yeah, food and sleep is for queers.
[62:19]
Gavin McInnes
I slept maybe two hours last night.
[62:22]
Danny
Me too.
[62:23]
Gavin McInnes
And I woke up this morning feeling like I got ran over and by a truck and then dragged 20 miles and I was debating on. I went. I hit my buddy up, and I was like, yo, I might need to get an Adderall. You got an Adderall for me? I drove and met him, and he gave me an Adderall. And I was like, I had it. And I was looking at it. I'm like, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.
[62:41]
Danny
You just never do a whole Adderall.
[62:43]
Gavin McInnes
Turns me into a emotionless robot.
[62:47]
Danny
Yeah. You know, I took, you know, hrt, whatever it's called, where your body produces more testosterone.
[62:54]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, testosterone. Yeah. Yeah. People inject themselves with testosterone, right?
[62:57]
Danny
But it's not that. It's. It's not you putting in testosterone. It's. You're telling your body to make more. I was too much of a. To go full testosterone, so it's.
[63:06]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, so you're doing, like. Like, naturally boosting your own testosterone.
[63:10]
Danny
Is that what it is?
[63:11]
Gavin McInnes
Hormone replacement therapy is.
[63:12]
Danny
No, that's not it. It's hgh, I think.
[63:15]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, Human growth hormone.
[63:17]
Danny
Maybe that's what it is. Anyway.
[63:18]
Gavin McInnes
Do you inject it in your body?
[63:19]
Danny
No, no, it's a pill. Oh, okay, so you forget the acronyms. It's a. It's. It tells your brain to make more testosterone.
[63:27]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[63:28]
Danny
And. Because I got these buddies, like, my buddy Stigs. He's a retired cop, and he's. He chest presses 350 pounds. Wow. He's a monster. And he'll drink, like, 50 beers and not get drunk. And he's like, yeah, you gotta do it. And he goes, you can't have kids anymore. Your balls turn into peas. But who cares? When was that time your wife even saw your balls?
[63:50]
Gavin McInnes
Exactly.
[63:51]
Danny
And I'm like, these are all strong points. So I didn't want to go full tea, so I tried that. Started going bald immediately.
[63:57]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[63:58]
Danny
And this is when you got great hair for your.
[63:59]
Gavin McInnes
How old are you?
[64:00]
Danny
I'm 55.
[64:01]
Gavin McInnes
Great hairline.
[64:02]
Danny
So we're at. But we're losing it here.
[64:03]
Gavin McInnes
Is that hairline real or did you get surgery?
[64:06]
Danny
I. It's my pubes. I had my pubes skin graft.
[64:09]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[64:09]
Danny
And I did it myself.
[64:10]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[64:11]
Danny
That's almost never done.
[64:12]
Gavin McInnes
New York.
[64:12]
Danny
Yeah. Numbing cream.
[64:13]
Gavin McInnes
It looks right.
[64:14]
Danny
A six pack and some ice. No, that's my real hair. But. But the thing I didn't like is I would come home and my kids felt like my. My wife felt like my girlfriend, and then my kids felt like my girlfriend's kids. Like, I was like, hi, buddy. How are you today? All right. Did you play your baseball or whatever you guys do? I was like, all right, I'm not doing this.
[64:36]
Gavin McInnes
That was when you took the pills.
[64:37]
Danny
Yeah.
[64:38]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[64:38]
Danny
But I think, like, just like Viagra, it's sitting there on the maybe shelf.
[64:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[64:44]
Danny
And I may. I may become the testosterone guy, but I'm waiting till it's an issue. Like, Anthony Kumia, he was getting injected in the ass like a maniac.
[64:55]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[64:56]
Danny
And I would hang out with him, he'd drink too much. And I also noticed when we would hang out, he'd be like, look at that ass. And I'd be like, what? There'd be like some woman like 40ft away. And then he ended up getting a quadruple bypass. So.
[65:11]
Gavin McInnes
Anthony Kumia?
[65:12]
Danny
Yeah.
[65:13]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[65:13]
Danny
Yeah.
[65:14]
Gavin McInnes
At what age?
[65:16]
Danny
60.
[65:17]
Gavin McInnes
You think it was from doing the testosterone?
[65:19]
Danny
I do think it was.
[65:19]
Gavin McInnes
No, there's no way.
[65:20]
Danny
Well, there's genetics.
[65:22]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[65:22]
Danny
There's the boozing.
[65:23]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[65:24]
Danny
But he was going hard.
[65:27]
Gavin McInnes
You know, it's a. It's a big thing with, like 20 year olds. Like, like really young kids now. Like, it's a high schooler.
[65:33]
Danny
That's terrible.
[65:34]
Gavin McInnes
High schoolers going to the gym, they just want to get super yoked. So they buy testosterone behind the gas station and they're all injected.
[65:41]
Danny
Okay, stop. Women don't want super yolk. Like, women don't want David Beckham. And I'd also like to say, as a guy who used to be young, we don't want, like, Lonnie Anderson lingerie. Like, tomboys are extinct, right?
[65:58]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[65:59]
Danny
That was my bread and butter when I was at 15 years old. That's how you start getting into girls, Right? She has overalls and a red baseball hat and she likes baseball. You go on a date with her and maybe you smooch and touch one tit. When you get into your 20s, you wanted to wear lingerie and smack her ass with high heel shoes and all that. But it's a stepping stone. And they've eradicated tomboys from the gene pool. Now they just go, I'm a man. They cut their tits off.
[66:27]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[66:27]
Danny
And now there was a. The COVID of Time magazine said extinct, and it had a tomboy on the front.
[66:32]
Gavin McInnes
No, it didn't.
[66:32]
Danny
It did.
[66:33]
Gavin McInnes
When?
[66:35]
Danny
A month ago.
[66:36]
Gavin McInnes
Are you making this up?
[66:36]
Danny
Hold that up. Jamie, I think you're.
[66:38]
Gavin McInnes
I think you're making this up.
[66:39]
Danny
I wish I was. I wish I was. And Time magazine's pretty left.
[66:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Now you're. You've made. Oh, my God. It's real Holy.
[66:50]
Danny
That girl. I was obsessed with that girl my whole life, you know, as a young man and also on tv.
[66:56]
Gavin McInnes
I mean. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with Bailey.
[66:59]
Danny
Yeah. Welcome back. Carter's wife. Like Gen x in the 70s, those were our gals. We wanted to kiss them on the lips.
[67:06]
Gavin McInnes
The first to exist since the 90s. Is this. Is this like an. Is is time going anti trans?
[67:13]
Danny
Well, maybe. Yes. And they're. I think they're also saying Trump tomboys are coming back, which I hope they are. Like, call me old fashioned. I don't want you to mutilate yourself and cut your fucking tits off.
[67:27]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[67:28]
Danny
Have you ever seen a tit?
[67:29]
Gavin McInnes
A tit? Yeah, I've seen one or two.
[67:32]
Danny
It's a very elaborate piece of machinery.
[67:34]
Gavin McInnes
Did you know I'm watching my wife feed a baby with one every single day?
[67:37]
Danny
Did you know when they're feeding a baby, the tit goes. Not a lot of iron here. Let's produce more iron in the milk. It's a lab. It's a live lab.
[67:46]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[67:47]
Danny
It's not an earlobe.
[67:48]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[67:49]
Danny
And they chop that off and literally throw it in the garbage.
[67:52]
Gavin McInnes
That's crazy.
[67:53]
Danny
In the name of, you know, feminism.
[67:56]
Gavin McInnes
I think all that's. The pendulum's swinging on all that, isn't it?
[67:59]
Danny
Yes, you're right. But people are still getting canceled. I mean, really. Sure. And there's all these holdouts. I mean, la, Hollywood, the comedy scene in the west coast, they're gonna. They're sort of like the. The Japanese military when they didn't know that World War II ended. I saw a great video recently where this woman was like, there's a certain demographic who transition their kids and they're never going to admit they were wrong because you cut your daughter's tits off. It's like a girl who got an abortion. She's never going to be pro life.
[68:33]
Gavin McInnes
Because you've gone so far, you're never going to do it.
[68:35]
Danny
If you become pro life, you have to admit that you killed a baby.
[68:37]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[68:38]
Danny
So they're pro choice for life. And I think these parents that cut her tits off. Yeah, they're like, it was definitely the right thing.
[68:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[68:45]
Danny
Or else I maimed my child. Which is what's worse than maiming your child.
[68:49]
Gavin McInnes
There's not much things.
[68:50]
Danny
You can't get much worse than that, I guess. Maybe mass murder.
[68:53]
Gavin McInnes
Maybe Megan Fox has trans kids.
[68:55]
Danny
Yeah. She's got like seven.
[68:57]
Gavin McInnes
Seven of them. Yeah.
[68:58]
Danny
Statistically impossible.
[68:59]
Gavin McInnes
It's insane. And that's the. So that you did some big trans piece back, and that's what that was. The camel or the straw that broke the camel's back for you and Vice?
[69:08]
Danny
No, not at all.
[69:08]
Gavin McInnes
No.
[69:09]
Danny
So the straw that broke the camel's back with me and Vice was Viacom. We were merging with Viacom. And they go, I don't like this guy. There was this guy, Brian Graden, I think his name is. And I had the dos and don'ts, and there's a lot of gay jokes in there. And so I was always, like, investigating radical shit. And then I think I went to this. I know I went to this American Renaissance conference. And I think Brian Graden was like, see? See what he's up to? And, you know, Shane was my childhood friend. I hired him to do sales. We were buddies when we were 12, and he was like, in Canada. Shane and Soroush were both like, fuck, man, that was way too far, and you're getting out of control. And I would have been like, okay. We were handshake guys. But they gave me a legal document, and I just couldn't get over it. So when they reached out the olive branch or when Shane did, I was still so mad about the lawyer letter that I was like, fuck you. And then when I was. I take a long time to get over things. So like a month later, when I was ready to forgive him, he had already.
[70:15]
Gavin McInnes
This is after the breakup?
[70:17]
Danny
No, this is leading to the breakup.
[70:18]
Gavin McInnes
Leading to the breakup? Yeah.
[70:19]
Danny
This is 2004.
[70:21]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[70:24]
Danny
When I reached out my olive branch, he was done. Like, this is. Whenever you hear about this, like. Like, what's her name? At.
[70:32]
Gavin McInnes
This is so strange, because it's always been a wild phenomenon to me. People who grew up as friends for so long, and then one of them just cuts all ties, all communication, everything.
[70:43]
Danny
Well, at 90 of the time, it's mistimed olive branches. So he reached out his. I snapped it away, and then when I reached out mine, it was dead. He snapped his away. That's really what it comes down to. And there was a woman at the New York Times. She's the executive editor. What was her name? Fucking Laura Rabinovich or something. And I said to her once, I go, what it really comes down to is you didn't have beers with Pinch. Pinch was the Arthur Sulzburger Jr. That's why the Japanese get drunk with their employees. You got to get drunk with your co workers. You guys should go get pissed like, once a month when you don't do that. I don't know. You Drift apart. When you get drunk with your co workers, you re. Establish connections and you realize, oh, you're a human being.
[71:27]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[71:28]
Danny
When you don't do that, you. You drift apart.
[71:30]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[71:31]
Danny
And that's what happened with us. We were like three amigos. We bought a house together in Costa Rica. We would party together every. All December. No, all of January, all of July. And then I fell in love with this woman and I left the. The trio. And they think they. I don't think they, you know, openly resented that, but it was like, who the is this guy? And then they go on a golf trip with Johnny Knoxville and. And I'm like, I'd rather just be with my girlfriend and.
[71:58]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[71:59]
Danny
You know, go skiing or some.
[72:01]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[72:02]
Danny
So that was the beginning of the end. Olive branches smashed and. Yeah, we never recovered from that. So the moral of the story is if you. If you have a big company.
[72:15]
Gavin McInnes
And then. And then. And then.
[72:16]
Danny
And then there was the pressure from corporate Viacom to get rid of me.
[72:20]
Gavin McInnes
I wanted.
[72:21]
Danny
But I could have survived that if I hung out with those guys more and drank more.
[72:24]
Gavin McInnes
Did you see that coming with them, like, when they started courting that VC money? Did you. Like, how. How clearly did you see that coming?
[72:33]
Danny
That's a great question. And the funny thing is, my role was always being their worst nightmare. Right? Like, I was the Grinch that stole Christmas. Like, from day one. We used to. In. In Montreal days, we would go to the printing press when we were newsprint, and we had to wait, like, six hours at the press to check the reds and the yellows and the greens. I think it was bullshit. What are we gonna do? More green, please. Like, I think it was just a gesture. But anyway, I would draw. I'm a good cartoonist. I would draw the most horrifically insulting cartoons of them. And Soroush looks like Gonzo from the Muppet Show. And I would draw, like, his bags under his eyes, and I would. It would take me like, 10 minutes. And I would show him, and he'd be like, jesus Christ, that is so horrible. And then I draw Shane as this big, fat, useless tub of shit. And I would show him, and Soroush can take it on the chin, but Shane is very sensitive. And he'd be like, you know what? That actually looks bad on you. And I'm like, this fat tub of shit looks bad on me? And he's like, yeah, it shows how you see people. So I was just like, the screwdriver belt buckle and the. Speak English. Like, I was always the bad guy.
[73:46]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[73:46]
Danny
In a silly Batman villain kind of way. So there was no really writing on the wall in that sense, because that was the culture. And in fact, with Vice, that was.
[73:56]
Gavin McInnes
That. That was the. Would you say that kind of attitude. And that mindset was the whole soul behind Vice, right?
[74:03]
Danny
Correct. And I. That was our business plan. Our business plan was Gavin and the Sid Vicious guys were cantankerous nightmares. And then the sales guys hated us.
[74:13]
Gavin McInnes
They were like mom and dad, right?
[74:15]
Danny
And we could never be friends. And I remember when I tried to transfer that to Vice uk, they would do these advertorials where it's a five page article about tiger beer and how awesome it is. And I'm like, dude, no person reading this is like, well, I guess Vosh really loves tiger beer. I guess it's a delicious beer. And they just found it upon themselves to talk about tiger beer for five pages? No, dude, it's. Clearly, they paid for this. So we had this cantankerous relation. And it was fun, I gotta say. Like, I have this joke where I add the word care into everything. People like, hey, man, I just got my diploma. And I'm like, hi, I just got my diploma in care. Because I don't care that you got your diploma right.
[75:02]
Gavin McInnes
In care.
[75:03]
Danny
Yeah, like, care was the constant thing. Sorry I'm late. Sorry I care. I don't know.
[75:10]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, I see what you're saying.
[75:11]
Danny
It gets funny 37 times into it. Okay, so this. I remember one time there was this sales guy coming by. It was me and Jesse Pearson, who was the managing editor at the time. And the sales guys walking by the cool section, the editorial section. We made the advertising guys the nerds in the other section.
[75:28]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[75:28]
Danny
And there was literally a wall between us. So he's coming out and he's with some radio guy. And he goes, hey, hey, guys. And we're like, hi. And he goes, this is the radio dude I was telling you about who wants to advertise with us. And I go, where does he work? C A, R, E, F, M. And then we all died laughing because we don't care. And that chips away after a while, especially when you get to Viacom levels.
[75:59]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[76:00]
Danny
And eventually it breaks. And, yeah, they were like, I don't like this advertising hates editorial. I mean, we'd still. We'd still drink beers with them on a Friday night. That's my dad's thing. My dad always said I'm a terrible person to work with. With. I'm a great guy to drink with. And that's Always been my philosophy. Work should not be fun besides this. Right? So, like, work sucks. What the are you doing? Get your notes together and then, you know, Friday at 5, let's go to the bar and I'll hang out with you. We're buddies, but we're, like, working on the chain gang. We're like chipping rocks.
[76:35]
Gavin McInnes
Right. But, like, you were. You were in charge of all the content.
[76:40]
Danny
All the content. I was literally retards. We had RA the rugged man, the rapper. He had severely handicapped kids. I mean, siblings.
[76:50]
Gavin McInnes
Oh.
[76:51]
Danny
Like, brutally. And we.
[76:53]
Gavin McInnes
This guy work for you?
[76:54]
Danny
No, he was a friend.
[76:55]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[76:56]
Danny
But we did a. Like a advice column.
[76:59]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[76:59]
Danny
I was. I would answer questions as a. I was women. I was a black guy. Like, because they said your writing isn't diverse enough. So I just became all the people that they wanted us to be. Black, female, whatever you want. That's the best way to handle diversity. Just have a white guy do it.
[77:18]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, my God.
[77:20]
Danny
That's your pull quote.
[77:22]
Gavin McInnes
That's hilarious. Well, there was, like. There was. And I've heard this described by Hamilton. He says there was like, three.
[77:29]
Danny
Who's Hamilton?
[77:30]
Gavin McInnes
Morris. Was he after you?
[77:32]
Danny
Thomas Morton. Oh, Hamilton Morris.
[77:34]
Gavin McInnes
Hamilton.
[77:35]
Danny
Was he.
[77:36]
Gavin McInnes
Did he come in there after that?
[77:36]
Danny
Rings the bell. I don't really think I know him. Well, interesting.
[77:40]
Gavin McInnes
Maybe he came in after you. He had. You ever heard of Hamilton's pharmacopoeia?
[77:44]
Danny
Nope. Oh, that's the guy who did, like, the drug videos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[77:49]
Gavin McInnes
The chemist.
[77:49]
Danny
Couldn't know him last. You gotta understand, too, after I left, I was so resentful that I would see that logo, which I can only tolerate, like, now.
[77:57]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[77:58]
Danny
40 years later.
[77:59]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[77:59]
Danny
Yeah. So I wouldn't watch any of the shows.
[78:02]
Gavin McInnes
Right. Was there video when you were still there? You guys were already doing video?
[78:06]
Danny
Oh, yeah, we went. David Cross and I went to China and we. We had a company make us apple pies called All American apple pies with an American flag in them. And when you pull out the American flag, it plays a Star Spangled Banner with, like, a little machine in the apple pie.
[78:26]
Gavin McInnes
Wow.
[78:27]
Danny
And it said American made on the side.
[78:29]
Gavin McInnes
In China.
[78:30]
Danny
In China?
[78:31]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[78:32]
Danny
We did a million funny things there. We went to a bar once when we were there, and we met the owner and he's like, what are you guys doing? Here we go. We're in a band, but the government doesn't want us here because we're too revolutionary. And they took all our equipment. So I guess we can't do our tour. And he goes, you can play here. You can play your show here. And I would give you all kind. We got drum, we got. We got bass. I was lying, obviously, Right. Jake was one of the guys.
[79:00]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[79:01]
Danny
Yeah. So we had a show the next night. I was on drums, like, bonk, bonk. Jake was like.
[79:16]
Gavin McInnes
Like, we just had no clue what you're doing.
[79:18]
Danny
No. None of us could play instruments. And David Cross is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're totally rocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. At one point, we did a sketch that was purely spontaneous. I bought a racist mask with, like, long Fu Manchu things and chinky eyes. And I'm trying to buy, like, a watch in the market. In Beijing? No, Shanghai. And the guy's like, oh, you got to pay, like, off 20 bucks. And I'm like, oh, I get what's happening because I'm gaijin, right? I'm a fucking white guy. So you're gonna give me the white prices? Yeah, I know what's happening here. Fuck you. And then I go around the corner, I put on the racist mask, but I put the, like, hat back on and the jacket. So I come back and I'm like, like, with big buck teeth. The guy was funny enough to get the bit with no introduction, and he gives me a total crazy rebate on it. And then I buy the watch for, like, two bucks.
[80:20]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, Jesus Christ.
[80:21]
Danny
Because he was funny enough to understand. I didn't know Chinese people could be funny, but, wow. We did, like, a hundred of those dumb sketches. And Shane.
[80:29]
Gavin McInnes
But he filmed all this.
[80:30]
Danny
Kai Boshed. It was Vice. We were. You're asking me about Pre Video when I was there. Pre. Pre Split when I was there.
[80:37]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right.
[80:38]
Danny
Yeah. We did tons of stuff. I mean, I was the head of Vice tv. I was in charge of that. We did a pilot with Johnny Knoxville and a pilot with David Cross. You know what's funny about Johnny Knoxville? Those guys have ball flicking in their, like, DNA.
[80:53]
Gavin McInnes
Yep.
[80:54]
Danny
So you'll be at MTV talking to Brian Green. Or not Brian Green, the fag I talked about earlier. Or some, like, major player at Comedy Central. Jeff Tremaine, Johnny Knoxville. All those guys when they're, like, waiting in the hallway for a meeting, they're all like this. At all times.
[81:11]
Gavin McInnes
They're always covering their balls.
[81:12]
Danny
Covering their balls. Like, it could be a funeral. Yeah, it could be, like, we could be meeting the president, getting the Congressional Medal of Honor, and they'd just be, like, waiting there because they flick balls.
[81:23]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, my God, It's Just in their DNA now to always protect their balls.
[81:27]
Danny
One time I was with Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine at that Lemmy bar in la. Hollywood something. Hollywood bowl, whatever it's called. Anyway, Tremaine, Steve O. Leaves his phone on the bar, and Tremaine picks it up. He call starts calling his ex girlfriends Steve O's, and he does a perfect Steve. Oh. He's like, hey, I miss you so much. I'll pay for your fucking Uber. Get down here. I want to be with you so bad. And Steve O Was on a date. So as he comes back from the bathroom, like, all these X's start appearing. Oh, God, dude, those guys are advanced.
[82:06]
Gavin McInnes
Is that how Spike Jones got into the whole Vice loop?
[82:09]
Danny
Yeah, that was me through you. Spike Jones got in the vice loop. I saw Adaptation, and I go, that's the. We went to a premiere. And I go, that's the greatest film ever made. I connected.
[82:23]
Gavin McInnes
I've never seen that.
[82:24]
Danny
Oh, my God. It's in my top five.
[82:27]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[82:27]
Danny
Yeah, but I don't want any spoilers. But there's a scene where. What's her name? Meryl Streep or something. She's on a porn site because her boyfriend filmed her. And I go, spike, greatest movie I've ever seen. But why would Meryl Streep character, Meryl Streep's character accept being on a porn site? That's not her personality. Like, the women who are okay with being on porn sites have, like, neck tattoos and they do crack. They're not, like, classy broads. And it bothered him a lot. He was like, fuck. You should always. Guys, if you're watching screen all movies through me, I will tell you. I will tell you the hole in the plot. But then I felt like Shane and Eddie, they kind of like, stole Spike from me.
[83:15]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[83:16]
Danny
They didn't even like Adaptation.
[83:17]
Gavin McInnes
Huh. So.
[83:21]
Danny
And then they started Vice Film, which. Yeah.
[83:25]
Gavin McInnes
So when you. When you guys started courting those vc.
[83:29]
Danny
I love that word. Courting.
[83:31]
Gavin McInnes
Courting. Yeah.
[83:33]
Danny
We bought Viacom Flowers and chocolates.
[83:36]
Gavin McInnes
Are you serious?
[83:37]
Danny
No, actually, you want to know? According? Back in the newsprint days in Montreal, the record labels were the only people advertising in, like, weeklies. We were monthlies, but whatever, Right? Like, think of the Village Voice. That's right. We were. These record labels were like, we want to hire women, too. I'm a dude, so I'm too busy, like, getting CDs to the customer and signing bands and doing real. There's a woman here. We got to give her a job. How about you just buy ads and newsprint. So our bosses in a sense were these women and they were cougars. And I think one of our co workers, like peers, they had a graphic design firm called Heliozilla. And they're like, have you ever noticed that the only way we could move ahead is to these 40 year olds? And I'm like, yeah, that seems to be an issue. And he goes, they're fucking cougars is what they're. I think he copyrighted the word, didn't copyright. I think he invented the word cougars. But anyway, Shane was our sales guy and the poor guy had to eat out these 40 year olds when we were like 22. And we always said back then we go, we ate our way to the top. And I'll. I don't know why this stuck with me so much. But you know, before I hated Shane, I loved him. And he told me about some church he went to, to dinner with and she was a cougar and she ran like Universal. What did you say now? I said Asian American.
[85:08]
Gavin McInnes
Oh my God.
[85:09]
Danny
Did you hear? You're racist.
[85:10]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Do you hear when people say un believable.
[85:14]
Danny
That's sad. I feel sorry for you. So anyway, they're having dinner together, right? And can you see my hand?
[85:20]
Gavin McInnes
No.
[85:21]
Danny
Okay. Can you see my hand?
[85:22]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[85:23]
Danny
So they're having dinner together, she's eating, not looking at him. They all have short hair, by the way. Which is what? If you're a woman from behind and she has short hair, you're looking down at a 12 year old boy. I got into bed with a lady, now I'm a 12 year old boy. You. Me, that's why I would say to ladies, grow your hair out. I don't care how thin and gross it is, grow it up. But anyway, so they're at dinner and they're eating and she, her hand is on the table and she goes like this. You know what that means?
[86:00]
Gavin McInnes
What does it mean?
[86:00]
Danny
Put your hand in my hand. I don't know. Is that the Holocaust? Like that's the worst thing I've ever heard. And to this day, if anyone goes like this to me, yeah, I am like the Hulk. I just go choo. And I start killing everyone in the room like. And he didn't want to be there. She showed up in a limo, picked him up. Am I nuts? Does that sound revolting to you? Maybe I'm nuts.
[86:31]
Gavin McInnes
It sounds weird. Yeah, Yeah.
[86:34]
Danny
I don't know, maybe like, imagine you're fucking a woman.
[86:36]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[86:36]
Danny
Who's old and ugly. You don't want to fuck her. And you're at dinner with her, and her business is contingent on your business's success, and she decides to Harvey Weinstein you. We were Harvey Weinstein.
[86:49]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[86:49]
Danny
And it wasn't me. It was mostly Shane.
[86:51]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right, right, right.
[86:52]
Danny
But to go like, that's worse than Harvey Weinstein.
[86:56]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[86:57]
Danny
At least Harvey was like, blow me and I'll get you in a movie.
[86:59]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[87:00]
Danny
Did he ever go like, just calling.
[87:02]
Gavin McInnes
You over like, you're just like, she's. Give me a loyalty.
[87:04]
Danny
Give me your hand. Give me your hand.
[87:09]
Gavin McInnes
How about. Have you seen what's. What Candace Owens is doing with Harvey Weinstein? She's vindicating him.
[87:15]
Danny
I just saw that today. Yeah.
[87:17]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[87:17]
Danny
Yeah.
[87:18]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, man.
[87:18]
Danny
Is that old news?
[87:19]
Gavin McInnes
No, she's been. I think she's been going at this for months now. But apparently he got me too. Apparently, he's innocent.
[87:27]
Danny
I agree. Very unpopular opinion.
[87:35]
Gavin McInnes
I love how fast you were to agree.
[87:37]
Danny
This doesn't get me canceled. Harvey Weinstein did nothing wrong.
[87:41]
Gavin McInnes
Nothing.
[87:41]
Danny
He said, suck my dick and you can be in a bunch of movies. What would happen if Harvey said that to you? You'd be like, no, thanks. Guess I won't be in a ton of movies. Not on my radar. Thanks.
[87:55]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, God.
[87:57]
Danny
Marisa Tomei was like, he said, if I don't him, I won't be movies. Okay, get another trade then. Yeah, I feel the same way.
[88:05]
Gavin McInnes
It's like he's holding a gun.
[88:06]
Danny
I feel the same way about P. Diddy. He me 37 times. Oh, my God, that's horrible. What kind of cage were you in? No, I would go home and then I would come back for the next. Okay, what did the police say? Oh, I didn't go to the police. Okay, get the out of here. And this is where it gets real controversial. Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less. Now, if you find a 12 year old.
[88:34]
Gavin McInnes
Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less.
[88:36]
Danny
I couldn't care less, but.
[88:37]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, you couldn't care about Jeffrey Epstein.
[88:39]
Danny
Don't give a shit. Now, if you find me a prepubescent girl that was there against her will, by all means, I want to murder everyone involved with an M16 and bury them under the fucking. Yeah, jailhouse. Yeah, but like a voluntary 17 year old. Well, I'd like to beat up her dad, but all these post pubescent sex party shit, I think it dilutes the actual child trafficking.
[89:06]
Gavin McInnes
Children. Yeah.
[89:07]
Danny
That are being shipped all over America right now to the tunes of hundreds of thousands.
[89:12]
Gavin McInnes
Well, it was that with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. They were shipping over like 12 year olds.
[89:16]
Danny
Okay? If I. I looked that up, I couldn't find it. But show me a 12 year old and now I'm mad.
[89:22]
Gavin McInnes
Jean Luc Bernal, the. The French modeling agency guy was shipping over 12 year olds to Epstein island, okay?
[89:28]
Danny
And like, I mean, girl, you show me a 12 year old, I'm in.
[89:30]
Gavin McInnes
Did you see.
[89:30]
Danny
All I've seen is 17 year olds.
[89:32]
Gavin McInnes
Did you see that?
[89:33]
Danny
Like, you know how many 17 year olds. The Beatles.
[89:37]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, my God, that's so fun. Have you seen. I'm sure you've heard all the songs, right? What's the Kiss song?
[89:43]
Danny
Christine. Yeah. Sixteen, sexy and seventeen. The Beatles. The. There was a.
[89:48]
Gavin McInnes
There's a. A Rick James song too.
[89:51]
Danny
There was a very hot Puerto Rican girl that Jimmy Page kidnapped. I will concede she's one of the prettiest women I've ever seen. Big fucking fat lips. But David Bowie, her. She was 14 at the time. Led Zeppelin, her. Jimmy Page kidnapped her. And she's in a book called Groupies. I don't like that. It's. It's not at the top of my priority list because it was voluntary. But I want to focus on children. There's children. There's 350,000 missing children from Biden's. Let's focus on that, please. And I'm. I'm dubious of all this Weinstein Epstein Diddy stuff where you're just like, ah, there's sexual transgressions. No, no, no. There's adults being gross. Where like this dumb had to lick come off some male prostitute's back. Gross. Don't want to hear about it. Then there's children.
[90:49]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right, right.
[90:50]
Danny
Can we focus, please?
[90:51]
Gavin McInnes
Right, yeah. The Diddy seem. The Diddy thing is like, who gives.
[90:54]
Danny
A. I could not.
[90:55]
Gavin McInnes
How many gay orgas.
[90:56]
Danny
I assumed that was going on. You're rich, you're black, you're probably on the DL. Sure you're drinking come off some dude's forehead. I don't. I'm actually mad I have to hear about it.
[91:09]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, no, it's definitely a distraction from the real disgusting. Did you see that?
[91:14]
Danny
James o'. Keefe.
[91:15]
Gavin McInnes
That is real scoop.
[91:16]
Danny
No, some whistleblower who worked at what's it called? H H Human. Hhr. She goes, we kept shipping kids, Mexican illegal kids to the same address, and we knew that address was a sex trafficking address. And I said to my bosses, and thank God for this woman being brave enough to go to James o' Keefe with this. She goes, I said to my bosses, that's a sex trafficker's house. And they said, yes, I know, but we only get sued if we keep kids too long, which is kind of a Biden thing. We have to keep the machine moving. And she said, sex traffickers don't sue. So if we can keep the kids going to these homes where they get r? Ped. I'm talking about 8, 9, 10, 11. We don't get sued. So we're good, and we're doing our job. This is, again, women in the workforce, like, they get so devoted to their job that they're like, yeah, let's kill some kids. They always say. I'm off on a tangent now, but they always say, like, women should rule the world. There'd be no more wars. Yeah, we tried that. It's called paganism. They sacrificed babies and virgins to their stupid grass gods.
[92:28]
Gavin McInnes
Who did?
[92:28]
Danny
The pagans Pre Christianity, like in Ireland and. And all over Europe. Yeah. So I don't want to go back to that.
[92:36]
Gavin McInnes
Well, they still. I mean, they sacrifice baby. Even Christians, even early Christians were sacrificing babies. That was just part of the world back then, wasn't it? Human trafficking was, like, ubiquitous in antiquity.
[92:46]
Danny
Are you an atheist?
[92:48]
Gavin McInnes
No, I'm not an atheist.
[92:49]
Danny
Okay.
[92:51]
Gavin McInnes
But I'm not a Christian.
[92:52]
Danny
What are you?
[92:53]
Gavin McInnes
I'm not really.
[92:54]
Danny
I'm like. I'm a eunuch.
[92:56]
Gavin McInnes
I'm a religious eunuch.
[92:57]
Danny
I'm not a Muslim.
[92:59]
Gavin McInnes
I'm a Muslim. I'm not a Muslim.
[93:00]
Danny
I hate when they say Muslim. You were a Muslim?
[93:03]
Gavin McInnes
No, I had a Muslim on the show. What do you call him? A Muslim?
[93:07]
Danny
I call them a muzzy.
[93:08]
Gavin McInnes
A muzzy. Okay.
[93:09]
Danny
Yeah. I'm not compatible with you.
[93:11]
Gavin McInnes
Didn't you used to say Jesus was a fat?
[93:14]
Danny
I did say that, yes. Not proud of that.
[93:17]
Gavin McInnes
Why?
[93:18]
Danny
I was just trying to be controversial.
[93:20]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, you were just trying to.
[93:20]
Danny
I was an atheist back then.
[93:21]
Gavin McInnes
You were trying to get people going.
[93:22]
Danny
Yeah, I said that on Bill Mars show. I was just trying to be rude.
[93:26]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, okay.
[93:27]
Danny
Yeah. I mean, there's evidence that Abraham Lincoln was a fat. It's kind of. Back then I was, you know, in media and. What, you want to think outside the box? Podcasts are gay? I don't know.
[93:40]
Gavin McInnes
Sure. Just trying to get people riled up.
[93:42]
Danny
Yeah. You want to say something like. Like Jonathan Swift with his A Modest Proposal, where he said, the Irish are overpopulated and they're starving. Let's have them eat their babies. I was just trying to be. I regret it. Very much. But I was an atheist until my daughter was born. I said this on Joe Rogan's show, which is now deleted. But he deleted it. Yeah, both my Joe Rogans are deleted.
[94:09]
Gavin McInnes
I saw her after the Spotify.
[94:11]
Danny
I saw her heel and the fact that, that she was a baby. The fact that her little heel, she's 18 now, is going to like change and develop and always be the perfect amount of padding. And then. And that sounds too rational. And then I, I honestly felt God when I was in bed. Try to blow me. No, I'm just kidding. That's a joke. That's a joke. Don't. Don't make me. My plane crash. No, I was in bed with my wife and I, I felt God and I woke up my wife and I went, I love God.
[94:44]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[94:44]
Danny
Yeah. So there's a rational.
[94:46]
Gavin McInnes
You woke up.
[94:47]
Danny
I woke up in the middle of the night, told your wife, my daughter would been like this. Be like 2007. And I, I woke her up. I go, I love God. And that's kind of like, they always go, how could you prove to an atheist that God exists? You could show them like the shrouded turn and all this data, but you really got to kind of feel it. And God was like, I'm here and I've been.
[95:15]
Gavin McInnes
Because of the miracle of watching your child be born.
[95:18]
Danny
I think there were two separate things. One was a rational thing where I saw her heal and I was so impressed with what God has created. But then secondly was purely spiritual and it was God coming in and being. By the way, I'm right here. That's how he talks.
[95:34]
Gavin McInnes
That's interesting.
[95:36]
Danny
Hey, dude, I was waiting for you. It took you so long.
[95:38]
Gavin McInnes
So do you go to church every week?
[95:40]
Danny
I did after I got canceled, though I live in a very liberal neighborhood.
[95:45]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[95:46]
Danny
And when I would bring the family church, it was all like so and so. You know, it's funny, you hear this. I'm actually biting some of my stand up. But you hear about black people. They're like, when I was young, they would touch my hair for good luck. And you're like, doesn't sound so bad. Like this. And they go like, code switching. I have to code switch. Where when I'm with my cousins, I'm like, yo, what's up? But when I'm at work, I have to say, hello, how are you?
[96:16]
Gavin McInnes
To church, you have to code switch.
[96:18]
Danny
Yeah, we all do that. And then I realized I'm an. Like, I'm black in 1945. I'm married to a white woman in 1945. They vandalized my car. They throw fruit at my fucking house. They zig Heil me when I'm out with my kids. They ostracize my children. Just like the black girl at school that had to be escorted to the school. That's my daughter. Like she was eating lunch alone.
[96:47]
Gavin McInnes
And this is after the whole proud.
[96:49]
Danny
Boys still going strong since 2018. Yeah. And Anthony Kumi actually made up this joke where I, like, I get to the kids baseball games, like, I'll be at 1 tomorrow. And I can see the liberal whites, disproportionately Jewish, but whatever. And I can see them like, oh God, the here. And my attitude is like, I'm like a fat black guy in 1939. And I'm just like, I don't want no trouble, all right? I just, I'm like crumpling up my bucket hat. I just, I just want to see my boy's game now. I don't need no trouble. You all enjoy your game.
[97:28]
Gavin McInnes
So does your kid not have any friends?
[97:30]
Danny
All his friends are black, believe it or not.
[97:33]
Gavin McInnes
Really? Oh, you come full circle.
[97:35]
Danny
Well, these classist cunt liberals, they're actually racist. So they don't like the black.
[97:40]
Gavin McInnes
Exactly.
[97:41]
Danny
They're into eugenics and stuff.
[97:43]
Gavin McInnes
It's the horseshoe theory.
[97:44]
Danny
Yes. So they met. So my house is Harlem. And not just my 12 year old, but my 16 year old blackity, black, black, black. Now they're. They're middle class blacks who live in a white neighborhood. So it's not exactly like. But whatever, Mr. McInnes. But, but I just think it's funny.
[98:01]
Gavin McInnes
They're the ones that don't give a shit.
[98:03]
Danny
Well, I don't read Huffington Post.
[98:05]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right, right.
[98:06]
Danny
They're like, they work their asses off to move to a white neighborhood. So they're like too busy kicking ass and taking names to deal with. Like, what does the fucking. What does MSNBC say about proud boys? I don't even know if they know I'm a proud boy. But, but it's funny how I get to these baseball games and I can see the parents, like, and I go like 10ft from them and I just sit there wringing my bucket hat. Like, I don't want no trouble now. I'm just watching my boy's game. And occasionally there'll be some like, white guy who speaks to Negroes who will come over to me and be like, hey, hey, Gavin. And I'll be like, look, man, don't. You don't need to come over now. Don't do it. Don't do it.
[98:49]
Gavin McInnes
Save yourself.
[98:49]
Danny
Yeah. Don't you be wrecking your life. I have a couple guys who own restaurants in town. They're like, you should come by the restaurant. I'm like, no, no, sir. I don't want to be wrecking your restaurant by being no Negro coming around there eating my fried chicken.
[99:04]
Gavin McInnes
And has it made you paranoid?
[99:06]
Danny
Yeah, yeah, sure.
[99:11]
Gavin McInnes
Has that gotten. Has that got eased since the. When this whole debacle happened? What, 2001. I'm sorry, 12, 20, 18.
[99:19]
Danny
When I did the parody of Otoya Yamaguchi killing the head of the Japanese Socialist Party, which is on my website, Censor tv.
[99:28]
Gavin McInnes
Is this the. The talk you did?
[99:30]
Danny
Yes.
[99:31]
Gavin McInnes
At the Republican.
[99:32]
Danny
Just a joke. But the. The left was getting a very bad reputation with Antifa and everything, so they needed violence from the right. And I actually got a call from a Jew named Mike, who I kicked out of the Proud Boys for going to Charlottesville. And he goes, dude, they're looking for a photo op tonight. I know, I'm out. But they want violence from the right. So here's what you got to do. Bring pillows, and when Antifa attacks you, you'll be at a pillow fight. So the Proud Boys did bring pillows. Yeah, they. That night, there was like. I've done talks at that place before, the Metropolitan Club, and there was, like, zero protesters. And it's always like, 100 people. All my shows are like 100 people. And this night was like 500 people protesting. They glued the locks, they smashed the windows. They called the old lady who runs Metropolitan Club. I'm like, you're a. I'm gonna. You. You like. And calls from all over the country. Oh, yeah, calls from all over the country, too. Not New York. And then there was this dude, John. He showed up, and he was a journalist. He got the beat out of him by Antifa. They stole all his equipment. 12 of them jumped him. Gavin Wax, who now works for Trump, he was there with his buddy, and they go, holy, Antifa's jumping a dude. They grabbed them. They got the cops involved. They arrested four people. Kai Russo, Caleb Perkins, Finbar Sloanim.
[101:10]
Gavin McInnes
One of those dudes was in the Thomas doc, right?
[101:15]
Danny
I don't know.
[101:16]
Gavin McInnes
I think one of the guys got arrested. He said he was in prison watching them.
[101:18]
Danny
Oh, yeah, no, those. I'm getting to those guys. Okay, so they arrested all these Antifa dudes. They go to court. Lawyers appear out of the ground like corn. When you arrest Antifa. And they're just like, these guys are innocent. Free to go. So we're kept in the Metropolitan Club. They dispersed the crew. All the protesters are gone. And the protesters were weird. They were like a brown turtleneck with a blazer. Yeah, yeah, you're from Turkey, dude. You're not American. You've been hired. They had this banner, like, Asian tours on our turf, and it was like a big cloth banner that was 100ft wide, embroidered. What is that, $13,000? How'd you get that together? They're throwing glass bottles of piss at us, which are the. The P. Diddy Ciroc bottles, which are probably 80 bucks each. I don't know. Like, the Ciroc. So they. They must have poured the vodka out and pissed in them, and they were throwing piss at us. So they leave the pillows at the fucking venue because everyone's gone. They go to the subway to go home. Antifa didn't leave. They went around the corner. They flanked them. They jumped the Proud boys, and they go, you want to go? Proud Boys go, yes. Proud Boys are losing at the beginning. Then the other guys start showing up. They win. Win 17 second fight. The cops say to Antifa, do you want to press charges? They go, fuck you, pig. I just got punched in the face, like, 70 times. Oh, sorry. Like, where were you? And the cops go, okay, well, there's nothing for me to do here. There's no. It's mutual combat, right? So the whole thing's dropped. They. We go out to the bars that night. Max and John are joking about it, and it wasn't even a big deal, right? It would be like me telling people tonight that I did your podcast. Not that it's not a big deal, but, like, where were you? I did Danny Jones podcast. Oh, okay. I wouldn't be like, you guys are not gonna fucking believe this. So we forgot about it that night. And next day, De Blasio, Cuomo, everyone is tweeting, hate has no place. You know how they always get their little word? Like, with Trump in South Africa, the word was ambush. And they all say ambush. So it was, hate has no place in New York. They all kept repeating that. Like, dozens of tweets from all the top brass in New York, and those guys are yanked into court. Four years in prison. One of the guys was Brown. We call him Brown David. He's Indian, and he was one of the three. And they go, you're looking at four years with these guys. And he goes, I think you're bluffing. I think you're gonna make this whole thing about white supremacy, and you can't use it on me because I'm not white, and you're gonna chicken out. So he like, all in poker, James Bond shit. And they were like, okay, you're free to go.
[104:16]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[104:16]
Danny
He's gone. And John Kinsman's wife is black as black can be. She's not black, like, Cosby show black. She's like, motherfucker, what the. I love her, but she's like, black woman from the south side of Chicago.
[104:28]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[104:29]
Danny
And she told me, because we would go visit them every few months. We drive for, like, six hours. Six hours there, six hours back. And she was like. When I was at court with them, I would go piss. And all the cameras. I could hear the cameras as I walked to the bathroom. I could hear, like, of John. And then when I came back and sat with him, cameras down. And at one point, he was like, get the out of here. One guy from the Daily News, I could look up his name. He gets down on his knees like James Brown and shoots up. So this becomes this, and it's a Z. Kile.
[105:04]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, my God.
[105:05]
Danny
And I had my buddies going, dude, why is your boy Zeke Island? It's so dumb. I'm like, he wasn't.
[105:11]
Gavin McInnes
Wow. And this is all. So it wasn't until 2021, the January 6 thing, until you got all censored off all the platforms, right?
[105:21]
Danny
No, it was that night.
[105:23]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, it was. Oh, it was on October. You got banned.
[105:25]
Danny
October 12, 2018. Banned from Pinterest, Mailchimp, Shopify, Australia. I gotta piss.
[105:36]
Gavin McInnes
Go piss.
[105:38]
Danny
Here's the thing.
[105:40]
Gavin McInnes
What.
[105:42]
Danny
I. I get that there's, like, suburban activists, like, moms, but as far as the right and the left go.
[105:50]
Gavin McInnes
Suburban activist moms.
[105:53]
Danny
Yeah. Like, they want to terrorize your kids and stuff.
[105:56]
Gavin McInnes
They want to terrorize your kids.
[105:57]
Danny
Yeah. So as far as the right and the left goes, the right has a problem with lack of unity. We're like, oh, you support Israel? You. You're dead to me. The left has the opposite problem, where they're like, oh, you some kids. Well, we could work it out. Just try not to do it again. So when. When I was vilified when I moved to the BURBS during this 2018, like, the suburban moms got word from antifa that I'm a Nazi. And they were like, I got it from here. So it went from, like, banners on the highway and shit talking to this banners on the highway saying, like, a fascist lives here.
[106:39]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[106:39]
Danny
To, like, the local moms putting signs on our lawns and signs everywhere and.
[106:44]
Gavin McInnes
Signs in your lawns.
[106:45]
Danny
Oh yeah, dude, I. I could do a whole podcast on the insane shit they did. My babysitter, when my kid was 4, my babysitter's parents told her to quit because she's working for fascists. No, no, sorry. My babysitter's boyfriend's parents told him to tell her to quit. She said no, he dumped her. Jesus Christ, they're 17 year olds. Imagine being like if I was 17 and my dad was like, I need you to stop dating that chick Kim. She's a fucking slut, by the way. I'd be like, totally done, dad. Yeah, she's totally dumped. Anyway, I'm out to see the movies with Kim. Why do I my. The place that repaired my computer got boycotted into. Into extinction because they fixed my computer. And they're obviously fascists if they fix my computer. So you don't want to put your computer there. They'll get your banking information. Immigrant from Portugal, but go ahead. So that was the kind of barrage of attacks, but it was based on antifa propaganda. And these left wing moms are perfectly so. The analogy I would use is New Canaan, Connecticut is a right wing place. Imagine a family moved. This is about 20 minutes north of me. Imagine a family moved to New Canaan and the Nazi skinheads were like, these, these guys are lovers. They're fucking race mixers. Put signs on their lawn and ostracize their children. And the children's and the conservatives moms in that neighborhood were like, got it. Thanks Nazis. We're on it. So the weird thing is like antifa and suburban moms. Yes, we're on the same page. Let's work together. Whereas Nazi skinheads and fucking conservatives hate each other's guts.
[108:41]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[108:42]
Danny
I'm not saying they should like each other, but the level of unity on the left is bizarre.
[108:49]
Gavin McInnes
Well, I mean, Nazi skin. There's no Nazi skin.
[108:51]
Danny
Well, you know, I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah, any kind of like Groipers for ex. I should say. Okay, Groipers. If groipers told New Canaan moms that this neighbor is a bad neighbor, New Canaan moms would be like, who the are you? You're into frogs. Get out of my face.
[109:06]
Gavin McInnes
Right, right. Yeah. The whole thing is strange. It's like it seems like every couple years the whole thing just morphs and shifts into something else. It seems like the, like even like the whole idea of, of right and left is constantly changing.
[109:22]
Danny
It seems like, well yeah, but let's not oversimplify it. What's really happening is the whole centrist thing is moving to the left. And if you have Obama and the Clintons politics of 2004, you're a radical right wing lunatic.
[109:39]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[109:40]
Danny
Meanwhile, you're left to center on any normal spectrum. So they just keep pushing it farther left. And I think what's happened post. I'm going to go back two months. Post two months is you moved the Overton window too far to the left. You're fucking insane. We're not joining you anymore. That might be a bad use of Overton Window. You move the political spectrum too far to the left and we have nothing in common with you anymore. Look at who the left has to offer. I don't know where you are on the political spectrum, but I look at like aoc, Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar, Gavin Newsom. Absolute fucking clowns.
[110:24]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, they need, they're, there's definitely a void. There's a, there's a gap there that.
[110:31]
Danny
And they think it's Joe Rogan. They're like, why, why do we, why are we so unpopular? Probably because Joe Rogan controls the young people's brains. No, dude, Joe Rogan was a lefty, by the way, you ruined your brand. And he moved over to our side. Barely.
[110:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[110:46]
Danny
The reason that everyone hates you is because you, you have no policies, you have no, no views. You just have radical, weird losers who hate white people.
[110:56]
Gavin McInnes
It's like a fake puppet show. And what was I gonna say? I was gonna, like, I was explaining the.
[111:04]
Danny
No, I was talking about unity on the left versus disunity.
[111:07]
Gavin McInnes
I remember, I was gonna say now, wild idea. Imagine if the left was able to get Candace Owens to move over to their size and they made Candace Owens their leader and ran.
[111:18]
Danny
Candace Owens, she's too radical. She's way too radical.
[111:22]
Gavin McInnes
It would be a smart move though, wouldn't it?
[111:24]
Danny
Sure. Good luck with that.
[111:26]
Gavin McInnes
With her going against when she's saying.
[111:27]
Danny
Things like, Macron's wife is male, which she may very well be. Yeah, you might be right on that. But she's, she's, she's Alex Jones. She's a very outside the box chick. Where you go, that's the stupidest, craziest thing I've ever heard. And then you look it up and you're like, man, that's actually pretty true. I discovered her, you know.
[111:47]
Gavin McInnes
You discovered.
[111:48]
Danny
I discovered Candace Owens.
[111:50]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[111:50]
Danny
And then I became a pariah as she was moving up. I tried to get her on my show and she Said no. And then when I started my new website, Sensor tv, I had some investors where they go, let's get right and left talking again. And I go, dude, I tried, but, okay, how much money you got? They go, well, let's spend 100 grand trying to get the left to talk. So I got Cornel West.
[112:17]
Gavin McInnes
I watched that. That was great.
[112:19]
Danny
Yeah, I got. And Candace also, none of the right people charged me money. Michelle Malkin was like, hotel and plane. Ann Coulter was hotel and plane. Candace was like, how about 15 grand? And I was like, well, I did discover you, but okay, you know, we're never speaking ever again. And I never spoke to her ever again.
[112:39]
Gavin McInnes
What year did you guys film that?
[112:41]
Danny
The Candace Owens one.
[112:42]
Gavin McInnes
Candace Owens. Cornell west one.
[112:44]
Danny
I'm gonna say three or four years ago. You wanna know a secret about that? Yeah. While the cameras were off, Candace was like, we have a problem. I think I'm paraphrasing here, but I think she may have said, we have an IQ problem. Talking about blacks. That's paraphrasing. But it was something like that. And then Cornell goes, yes, but you get one of these brothers in front of a. And he just makes absolute magic.
[113:13]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, that was in the show. I remember that.
[113:15]
Danny
That made it to the show.
[113:15]
Gavin McInnes
That part. The IQ part wasn't in there.
[113:17]
Danny
The IQ part didn't get in.
[113:18]
Gavin McInnes
But he said something about. Yeah, along the lines.
[113:22]
Danny
I kind of agree with him in that. Like, it's terrible to say it's white supremacy to say whites are better at systems and blacks are better at other things, but they got some of the coolest shit that they're good at. Music, jazz, rap, whatever. Sports. Yeah. Yeah, those are very cool things. What. What is. What are whites? And the argument is this is white supremacy. What are whites, arguably, genetically better at systems? That's not cool. That's like being a woodchuck or a beaver. Like, we're better at making sure these mics work. Is that really. Am I allowed to have that? I can't have that. Like, for example, I'm on the plane on the way here this morning, and the fucking announcements are so relentless, it took all my willpower not to go, shut up. Like, we are coming through with a cart. All right, I'll. Can I wait till the cart shows up? Fasten your seatbelts. No smoking. Did you know that you can't smoke? Really? I thought it was 1972, and I could just sit here, smoke it away with my little ashtray.
[114:30]
Gavin McInnes
It's so funny. They still have the Fucking signs there. They have to tell you, dude, it's.
[114:34]
Danny
It's 40 minutes of announcements. And they're loud. And I felt like if there's a white man in control of that scenario, he'd be like, guys, the announcements are getting a little abrasive. Let's take it down a notch, okay? No more.
[114:47]
Gavin McInnes
If a white man were in control.
[114:49]
Danny
If a white man were in control of the announcements on a plane. This is one of my most controversial views. We'd get like. Like a tenth of what we get. They repeat themselves too. We're gonna come. Coming by with a JetBlue card. You said that. All right. You said that. And I think that white men are good at going, all right, no more coffee in the front room. It's blocking people when they walk in.
[115:18]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[115:18]
Danny
You know what I mean? Dumb. Like that dumb system stuff. But they've been kicked out of those jobs. So now the lunatics are running the asylum and we have 40 minutes of fucking announcements. And that's also why you see people getting canceled. Because they get a call that a racist is working at Arby's and there's some woman there is like, oh, I better bring this up to hr. And HR is a woman. And she's like, okay, fire him. But like a Clint Eastwood type of man would go, yeah, that's not what we're doing. That's ridiculous. Anyway, get back to work.
[115:56]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[115:57]
Danny
So the fear of white supremacy has led to whites abjurating their throne as good at systems, guys. And systems are suffering, and we're in a competence crisis now where complex systems are falling apart and no one knows how to fucking run an airplane anymore. So let these guys back at the helm. Or. The other problem with systems is politics.
[116:24]
Gavin McInnes
Is a system, right?
[116:26]
Danny
So white men should be disproportionately represented in politics. Sorry, we're just good at it. It's not cool. Politics is like taxes, capital gains tax, estate tax. What borders should be where interest rates. I don't know why I have to feel bad about being good at this. Boring. You can slam dunk run with that, right? Asians, they're great at duplicating white systems and making a car better than the car we made. That's cool. But yeah, white males have to be ashamed of systems.
[117:06]
Gavin McInnes
And I think that's going away, though. Don't you think that's starting to. Like I said earlier, don't you think this whole white blaming it white supremacy for everything was. White supremacy is the problem. You paint everything with white supremacy. That Broad brush is like, it seems like the culture. There's a cultural shift happening.
[117:20]
Danny
You're absolutely right.
[117:21]
Gavin McInnes
Like more people are.
[117:22]
Danny
But take, take a sock the size of this building and fill it with sand, okay. And there's people at the front of the sock being like, we fixed this. And they're marching forward and they're doing a great job. You got 50 foot of sand sock dragging through the parking lot. You got Hollywood leftists, comedians, like, the end of that sock. Trump's gone, by the way, in a thousand days. The end of that sock. I don't know, are we going to get it through the fucking. The finish line before Trump's gone?
[117:56]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that's a good point.
[117:58]
Danny
I worked out, I did the math the other day. So Biden Let in 12 million. Trump has about 1300 days left. 12 million dollar by 1300 is 8000. We need to deport 8000 a day to get rid of the illegals that Biden brought in. We still have the 30 million that were there before Biden started opening the gates. So to get back to zero is 8,000 a day.
[118:22]
Gavin McInnes
Well, we started deporting the protesters at the universities. Now if you're protesting Israel, we got one.
[118:27]
Danny
Okay, we got one.
[118:29]
Gavin McInnes
Do you think that's a good thing?
[118:31]
Danny
Yes. I'm an Islamophobe.
[118:34]
Gavin McInnes
So you think if you protest, if you're a. Well, is it.
[118:37]
Danny
I'm an Islamophobe and a hypocrite. I'm done with being consistent, Okay? I stole this from Jim Norton. No more consistency for me. They're not being consistent. So I'm not consistent anymore. I'm not. I'm a free speech absolutist. If it's my kind of free speech. I mean, I'm exaggerating, but I'm kind of not like we're at war with Islam.
[119:01]
Gavin McInnes
The, the, we're at all. We're at war with Islam.
[119:03]
Danny
Yes, absolutely.
[119:04]
Gavin McInnes
Us.
[119:05]
Danny
No, the Christian world, the West.
[119:08]
Gavin McInnes
The west is. How is the west at world at war with Islam?
[119:10]
Danny
Because Christianity is on the decline and Islam is on the way up, and that's bad.
[119:18]
Gavin McInnes
So Islam on the way up numbers.
[119:22]
Danny
I mean, America was, I mean, the world was two thirds Christian, a third Islam.
[119:26]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. What is the, what is the number there? What is the breakdown between Muslims and Christians in the world?
[119:31]
Danny
They're about to beat us.
[119:33]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[119:33]
Danny
And their religion is archaic. They put women in garbage bags.
[119:37]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, but why do you think they hate Christians?
[119:40]
Danny
They hate everyone.
[119:41]
Gavin McInnes
Don't you think they.
[119:42]
Danny
Don't you convert or die don't you.
[119:44]
Gavin McInnes
Think they hate the. The most extremist Muslims are the one they're.
[119:49]
Danny
They got extreme.
[119:51]
Gavin McInnes
All the intervention.
[119:52]
Danny
You know how many Muslims think bombing is sometimes are often justified? One in four. Really?
[119:59]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, I really think that's true.
[120:00]
Danny
Dig it up, boys. In, in places like Pakistan, it's gonna.
[120:04]
Gavin McInnes
Come up with that stat. They interview.
[120:06]
Danny
The question on the questionnaire is, do you think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified? And of course, CNN will trip over themselves to explain that question. But my, my other big problem is with the moderate Muslims. Like, why are you not out there criticizing radical Islam? And little side note, I forgot to mention, there are. When Max and John were doing that shit and they made John look like he was Zeke Hiling, where was the right wing media? Where was Daily Wire? Where was Breitbart? Where was New York Post? Where was any right wing media going? These guys are getting railroaded. They just avoided it like the plague. So fuck them. Fuck you. Not you. And to go back to the moderate Muslims, like, you need to speak out about radical Islam. I think if there's a terrorist attack, like the west side highway or whatever you want, you deport every single person in that guy's family. The cousins, everyone. And that way, when you hear Rakata Malata Machan talking about bombing the Boston Marathon, you expose him because you don't want to go back. That's what they do in Russia. They deport everyone remotely involved with the attack. And that's the only way we're going to get moderate Muslims on our side, because the only way to fix Islam is to get the moderates with us. We can't fix it. What are we going to do? Tell Osama bin Laden he's a jerk? Is he still around?
[121:40]
Gavin McInnes
He might be. Some people probably believe he is.
[121:42]
Danny
I hope he's okay. I want to do a book reading.
[121:46]
Gavin McInnes
You were, you were in New York City on 9 11, right?
[121:49]
Danny
Yeah. That was rough.
[121:53]
Gavin McInnes
What was that like?
[121:55]
Danny
Well, we're starting a whole new podcast, but one of the weirdest things was my black friend Derek pretended his mother was in the building.
[122:05]
Gavin McInnes
Pretended?
[122:06]
Danny
He lied. It took me 10 years. I was walking down the street and I was like, like, oh, he was lying. I'm not 100% positive, but it's.
[122:14]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[122:15]
Danny
The problem with having Scottish parents is they're so honest that when people lie to you, it takes you like 10 years to go. Wait a minute. Because he told me she was doing photocopies on the, on her, like, top floor of the World Trade Center. Photocopy machine broke. So she went downstairs and went across the street to a Kinko's, and she saw the building collapse from the Kinko's, where she was doing her photocop shopping, and her purse was on her desk still. And I'm like, are you okay? And then I went, wait a minute. There's no. Lower Manhattan is so densely packed that your GPS doesn't work right. The satellite can't find you.
[122:52]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[122:54]
Danny
There's no, like, bay window where you're doing photocopies, just watching buildings collapse. But I fell for that. But anyway, it was a fucking intense day. We. We saw it. We thought it was a fire, obviously. I was with Andrew WK you ever heard of him?
[123:13]
Gavin McInnes
Of course.
[123:14]
Danny
The night before, we're doing karaoke, Matt Sweeney. And Andrew W.K. went back to his. Where he was staying in Brooklyn with his guitarist, Jimmy something. I forget the guitarist name, but he was watching it on his tv, and he goes over to Jimmy's bed, and he's like, dude, you gotta wake up. The fucking World Trade Center's been attacked. And Jimmy goes, andrew, what the fuck do you expect me to do about it now? And Andrew was like, I guess nothing. And then Jimmy went back to bed, snored away. So Andrew watched it by himself. But I was with my. Who's now my wife. She was my girlfriend at the time. And it went from fire to collapse. I didn't see the first plane. I definitely saw the second plane with my own eyes. Conspiracy theorists. Absolutely.
[124:06]
Gavin McInnes
Well, you don't like the conspiracies?
[124:08]
Danny
Well, I like. I Actually, that's a great. A whole other Pandora's box. I was always like, look, it's Muslims, terrorism, blah, blah.
[124:16]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[124:18]
Danny
And then, you know, not even Covid. But I think a lot of intelligent adults are like, well, all. I'm open to everything now. Not flat earth, but I'm open to, like. They knew it was coming and they let it happen. I believe that's what happened with Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Takomkin or whatever, if that even happened. Yeah, I. October 7th. I think Israel allowed October 7th to happen. They'd had enough of this pit bull next door barking at their kids when they came home from school. And they let the gate open and they let the pit bull bite one of the kids so they could kill the pit bull. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe.
[125:01]
Gavin McInnes
I've noticed that people, this is a little theory that I have. And I was just talking to the dude who. Who wrote the looming tower that became a show. His name's Lawrence Wright, but he. I have this theory that basically, like, the people that were closest to 9 11, that were, like, there on the day or had family members that were in the building or, like, were super emotionally connected to that event are the ones that are, like, allergic to any alternative theories.
[125:28]
Danny
That was definitely the case.
[125:29]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. And the people that are more disconnected, who live maybe on the opposite side of the country or were born later, they're the ones that are more open to, like, oh, there was.
[125:37]
Danny
But that's also. That can be a fault where they're like, there's no way the second plane went in. There's no way there was any planes. I'm like, no, I saw the second plane. I saw the first plane and I saw them collapse. My. My whole thing with, with. With 911 was. I wish George Bush had said, we're starting to rebuild the. The World Trade center on September 12th. Does that shirt say Gavin? Oh, David. We rebuild it. And then my goal would be for British people to go, there's no way that that ever happened. I mean, they've done. They've taken the bricks and they've done carbon dating. And those bricks were the same bricks that were there in 1950. So the whole. And that's good.
[126:22]
Gavin McInnes
It's a great accent.
[126:23]
Danny
Thank you. I like that. Because I want the terrorists to go, fuck these people. Don't even think we did that. Because right now it's this. You know when you have, like, a bug in your eye and you twist a napkin and you're like, that's what it looks like now. And it was $13 billion over budget. It was like 10 years past due date. So it's a giant testament to our incompetence and the effectiveness of a terror attack that cost 50 gr. So it is a beautiful shrine to Islamic terrorism and how incredibly effective they can be. I mean, that's their Mecca. They should go there and pray at how awesome they are. That wasn't my idea. I want a new. And I said that to a fireman once, and he's like, you want your fucking kid working in there? And I go, I don't care if it's a silo for rice. I don't care if we store used computers there. I don't care if it's populated. I just want it to exist because it's a symbol that you can't. You, as a. Suicidal tendencies would say, you can't bring me down. But apparently we can be brought down.
[127:29]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, Yeah. I think it was A. A lot of things were true at the same time. I think we definitely wanted an excuse to go into the Middle east. And I think the. I mean, obviously there's a lot of. That came out with like Israel. Not Israeli, but the Saudi intelligence people were here. Like they knew that there were Saudis here learning to fly. Didn't give a fuck about.
[127:48]
Danny
About learning how to hear something crazy. Joe Biggs. Joe Biggs, who is a proud boy. At January 6, his father in law was at the training camp for the terrorists.
[128:01]
Gavin McInnes
Which training camp?
[128:02]
Danny
The. The flying school for whatever. One of those towel hats. Who did it?
[128:06]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, it was one down here.
[128:07]
Danny
And he was like, I got a bad feeling about this guy. Ah, whatever.
[128:11]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[128:11]
Danny
My instincts are probably wrong.
[128:13]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[128:13]
Danny
And he's not feeling bananas about himself since then.
[128:17]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[128:18]
Danny
But I think my theory and I could be wrong. That's the beauty of. I'm glad that we're all skeptical. That's a good place to be. But my theory is that the World Trade center had been attacked before. They lost like two security guards. And I think George W. Bush was. Maybe it was passed on from Clinton. And he said, there's this guy, Osama bin Laden, he's probably going to attack the World Trade center. Probably like kill four people and have a little fire and then we can go destroy the Middle east for 10 years. And he's like, let's do it. And then when he's reading that children's book, someone went up and was like, it actually ended up being like 3,000 people. And he's like, wow. Okay, so not three. That is a lot more than I had bargained for.
[129:03]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[129:05]
Danny
Holy. And then we had a retarded war for.
[129:09]
Gavin McInnes
Yep.
[129:10]
Danny
Forever.
[129:11]
Gavin McInnes
Yep. And I was thinking about the right and the left. They both want these retarded wars. They're. They're both complicit in these. Yeah.
[129:19]
Danny
Right and left, like, it's like politicians. Yeah.
[129:21]
Gavin McInnes
Uni party. Right.
[129:22]
Danny
Netanyahu would love. In a war in Iran. All these rhinos would love a war in Iran. Like it's, it's hard to think of politicians who don't want, want global Wars. Ron Paul, J.D. vance, maybe. Like there's three.
[129:39]
Gavin McInnes
And you would think like comparing Islam to Christianity, like these other countries, these Middle Eastern countries, they are all bound together by this. You got a piss? You already fart. Oh. Oh, wow. God damn.
[129:58]
Danny
That's a joke. I have like a fart machine in my pants with a microphone and I push the button. Oh, really sounded like a fart.
[130:05]
Gavin McInnes
Right? It Sounded just like a fart.
[130:06]
Danny
Yeah, that. That's a lot of technology.
[130:07]
Gavin McInnes
Smells like roses too.
[130:09]
Danny
That's a thousand bucks. Oh, it sprays out a fake fart smell.
[130:12]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, that's amazing.
[130:12]
Danny
Yeah. 1200 bucks that cost me. And the fart juice. The packets are 800 bucks each.
[130:20]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[130:21]
Danny
Where do you buy them from?
[130:22]
Gavin McInnes
My ass, from your asshole.
[130:25]
Danny
Sorry, what were you saying?
[130:28]
Gavin McInnes
I forgot.
[130:29]
Danny
Oh, the warmongers.
[130:31]
Gavin McInnes
Muslim. Well, the Muslim countries, they're all bound together by. They're all. They. They all subscribe to the same ideology and religion in America. It's not like that. It's more fractured. There's, you know, there's. It's. It's not the. I don't. I don't know, the. I would be curious to know what is the. The breakdown of religions.
[130:50]
Danny
Well, Canon really red pilled me on this in his book Death of the west, which came out the same year as 9 11. And he's like, how the. Do you. Where death is a victory?
[131:00]
Gavin McInnes
Yes, exactly.
[131:01]
Danny
That's it. We see coffins with American flags and it breaks 100% of Americans hearts. I don't care if you're left wing, right wing, you see those coffins come out and you go, it. The Arab world sees that and they're like, fucking nailed it, dude.
[131:16]
Gavin McInnes
We don't have any people that are so devout in their religiosity or their faith that they're willing to strap a bomb to their chest.
[131:25]
Danny
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[131:42]
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[132:00]
Gavin McInnes
Are you. Are you aware of. Of like Peter Thiel?
[132:04]
Danny
I know him.
[132:05]
Gavin McInnes
You know, you're friends with him.
[132:06]
Danny
I breakfast at his house. I almost shit my pants.
[132:07]
Gavin McInnes
Gay Christian billionaire.
[132:09]
Danny
Yeah.
[132:10]
Gavin McInnes
And there he is, like hardcore Christian, where he's. Now there's articles about this that have been coming out where he's holding these giant conferences in Silicon Valley, bringing all these folks in Silicon Valley in and just preaching Christianity and trying to.
[132:26]
Danny
Great.
[132:27]
Gavin McInnes
Trying to paint everything Silicon Valley is doing now with like this Christian lens.
[132:32]
Danny
Fantastic. Is that bad? You don't like that.
[132:34]
Gavin McInnes
I don't. I don't. I don't have. No, I don't think that.
[132:36]
Danny
Or.
[132:37]
Gavin McInnes
Good. I just think it's interesting.
[132:38]
Danny
Yeah, well, think of how many guys. Prison and their lives are. And then they. They start reading the Bible out of boredom.
[132:47]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[132:47]
Danny
And they get their whole lives together. My brother wasn't in jail, but he was. He was lost. And he. He started getting into the Bible. And, you know, his marriage is rock solid now. He's making money. So I think. I think the best way to save someone is the Bible. It's a great way to go. And you see these people who eschew it, and they're like, we're having sober October. Yeah, that's Lent, dude. Oh, we're meditating. Do you do the thing in church?
[133:18]
Gavin McInnes
Do you do the thing on your show where you paint the cross on your. On your forehead like the guys on Fox?
[133:22]
Danny
Yeah, I get my ashes every Lent.
[133:24]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[133:24]
Danny
And then I don't drink. I don't drink whiskey or any. I don't drink hard liquor for Lent.
[133:29]
Gavin McInnes
Wow.
[133:30]
Danny
I found a hole in the plot. You're allowed to have it on Sunday. So I sit there looking at my watch on Saturday night. And when 11:59 rolls around maker's mark and just get hammered from 12, I usually pass out by 12:10 because my immune system's down. But yeah, I do lent. It's great. What? What's great about Lent is it shows you what you're addicted to.
[134:00]
Gavin McInnes
Interesting.
[134:02]
Danny
Or no. No fap, right? No wanks.
[134:04]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not allowed to jack off. Right. You're a proud boy, right? So you don't jack off ever.
[134:11]
Danny
Well, I may have fallen from grace once or twice, but the. The rule is you can ejaculate within a yard of your significant other.
[134:17]
Gavin McInnes
A yard.
[134:18]
Danny
A yard. With her consent. So you can't jerk off while your wife's asleep, but say she's pregnant or menstruating, she could reach over and tickle your balls and you jerk off. You're still establishing a connection.
[134:30]
Gavin McInnes
Ah, right. I see.
[134:31]
Danny
See, but jerking off to porn is demonic. That woman, definitely not healthy. That woman was by her father and her uncle. The guy she's is gay.
[134:43]
Gavin McInnes
They're both.
[134:44]
Danny
That's just a fact.
[134:45]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[134:45]
Danny
The men.
[134:46]
Gavin McInnes
Guys in gay porn or guys in porn?
[134:48]
Danny
Guys in straight porn are gay.
[134:50]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[134:50]
Danny
Yep.
[134:51]
Gavin McInnes
Ron Jeremy is gay.
[134:52]
Danny
Oh, well, that's a different generation. Oh, okay. Modern porn. They're all in mess. And the analogy I always use, they're all meth. Yeah, that's how they last so long. So imagine a gay meth head was banging the victim of sexual assault on the road outside right now. And, like, 30 dudes just showed up going, oh, yeah, you like that? Yeah, you probably like that. Isn't that the most horrific thing you can conjure up outside of.
[135:21]
Gavin McInnes
I don't think they're on meth, though.
[135:22]
Danny
They're on meth.
[135:23]
Gavin McInnes
Dude, you've done Adderall. Adderall gives you, like, little, like, baby hard dick.
[135:27]
Danny
Yeah. Until you start fucking. Then it's a coconut smasher. Ask anyone. Ask anyone.
[135:32]
Gavin McInnes
But that's Adderall.
[135:33]
Danny
Ask anyone.
[135:33]
Gavin McInnes
Same thing with coke. Coke gives you, like, different.
[135:35]
Danny
No, no coke. You're not getting it up. Meth, they fuck for days. That's aids, by the way. AIDS is for meth. Cause these will for 40 hours straight. And I know a homo that got AIDS from that at a circuit party on meth. And I'm like. I go, what happened there? And he's like, oh, we. It was like 36 hours of straight. I go, Craig, if two praying mantises went like this for 36 hours, their bug dicks would be shredded.
[136:08]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[136:09]
Danny
Like go like this for 36 hours.
[136:11]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[136:11]
Danny
I'm gonna have a pustulant hole in my face with, like, blood leaking out. It's not natural.
[136:18]
Gavin McInnes
No.
[136:19]
Danny
But, yeah, that's all part of. They're on meth. Meth is a drug. You didn't know that?
[136:25]
Gavin McInnes
I had no idea.
[136:25]
Danny
Meth is for.
[136:26]
Gavin McInnes
I know the Nazis did a lot of meth.
[136:29]
Danny
Yeah, well, they. The Jews pretty hard.
[136:31]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Yeah. But then they lost. They ultimately lost the war because they got to. They. They blitzed and they ran out of meth. And then they all were, like, ramped up for weeks, and then all of a sudden, the meth ran out. And then they were all, well, we killed them.
[136:43]
Danny
We killed the Soviets, I guess. Won the Stalin won that war with just sheer numbers.
[136:51]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[136:53]
Danny
This magic mind gives you a real grassy aftertaste for a while, right?
[136:56]
Gavin McInnes
It does taste like. Kind of like grass, doesn't it? Yeah, but you wash it down with the beer and you won't taste it.
[137:01]
Danny
Okay. My daughter.
[137:03]
Gavin McInnes
I love cans.
[137:03]
Danny
I started wearing my clothes. So I, I. I put on my windbreaker, my barracuda Harrington, and I'm on the plane. I'm like, the is. And I smell like a teenage girl. I've got her dumb, like, teen perfume all over. All over me. That's not a great story. And then she Died this morning. I know you thought that story sucked to the ending, right?
[137:31]
Gavin McInnes
Did you drink on the plane this morning? Did you start drinking early?
[137:33]
Danny
No, no. I got here at, like, 11. Great. Bar next door. Walked in. As I told you. They gave me a shot that, and then. The beauty of proud boys is no matter where you are, it can be a Timbuktu. And you're like, hey, guys, I got four hours to kill, and I'm bored. Four trucks show up, and guys are ready to rock, huh? It's the best. Especially in Florida. There must be a chapter every hundred yards here.
[137:59]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[137:59]
Danny
Yeah.
[138:01]
Gavin McInnes
You get a chapter close to here?
[138:03]
Danny
Yeah. Five minutes from here.
[138:05]
Gavin McInnes
Five minutes from here?
[138:05]
Danny
Yes.
[138:06]
Gavin McInnes
No way.
[138:09]
Danny
It's great.
[138:09]
Gavin McInnes
Do you think you'll ever get your social media back?
[138:12]
Danny
Absolutely not.
[138:13]
Gavin McInnes
Never.
[138:14]
Danny
And I've talked to insiders.
[138:15]
Gavin McInnes
It's crazy that you can get banned, but Kanye's on there, right?
[138:18]
Danny
Well, I run a terrorist organization.
[138:20]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, yeah, I forgot you were labeled, but that was by the. The Canadians.
[138:23]
Danny
Ladies.
[138:24]
Gavin McInnes
Terrorist. Right.
[138:25]
Danny
I. Everyone's. Here's the key with life. Everyone is scared of getting fired.
[138:30]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[138:31]
Danny
Like, Jack Kavorkin was. Was killing people. Right. He was doing euthanasia.
[138:35]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[138:36]
Danny
And no one cared. But then he went on 60 Minutes and he bragged, and he was like, I do euthanasia. It's illegal. The FBI was like, dude, you're gonna get me fired. It's my job to make sure you don't do that. So he got arrested and put away dreams for security. Yeah. You can't. I think most police work is, like, if you shoot someone and you drag them into your house. Just don't make me look bad. Like, if you shoot someone in the back that's robbing your house and they fall on the driveway, I'm gonna get in shit because I'm the captain of that particular precinct. But if you, like, drag them in and you're. You wrestle with them and get blood on yourself, then good. And they don't care what's true or not. Most people just don't want to get fired.
[139:21]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. That's very true.
[139:22]
Danny
So.
[139:23]
Gavin McInnes
Except for you. You don't give a fuck.
[139:25]
Danny
I like getting fired. It's. It's become my pastime.
[139:27]
Gavin McInnes
You stay true to. You stay true to your art.
[139:30]
Danny
Sure. Yeah. Well, God has provided me with plenty of guardian angels, because I'm. I've. I think I'm making. I'm making up for the fact that advice. I was, like, fucking. Just party and do coke and tons of chicks, and that's A fun thing to do in your 20s, early 20s. And then I real. I had kids and I was like, what the fuck? What a waste, those party years. Like, when you have kids, you go, what was I doing? What a ridiculous pantomime that whole thing was.
[140:02]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[140:03]
Danny
And now I've devoted myself to telling guys, put a ring on it. Make a baby. What are you waiting for? You want her, but with bigger tits. You've been with her for two years, dude.
[140:14]
Gavin McInnes
I have a lot of friends from high school. Most of them, actually. Most of my friends. I really don't have many. Most of my friends that are like, my real friends. I. I've. They've been my friends since, like, eighth grade, and a lot of them still don't have kids.
[140:26]
Danny
Yeah.
[140:27]
Gavin McInnes
And they're like, they're pushing 40 now.
[140:29]
Danny
I think that is the trauma of divorce. They go. Because they always go, I'm glad my parents split up. They're fighting all the time. Yeah. No, you were deeply traumatized by that divorce. And you don't want to mimic it. You don't think love exists. You don't think devotion exists. And you're scared you're going to do to your kids what your parents did to you.
[140:50]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[140:50]
Danny
So I don't want to create kids. Why hurt them the way I was hurt? But when we were kids, you'd see the divorced kids and they're like, I got two sets of presents, man. I got Dad's presence, mom present. Yeah, yeah, sure, that's great when you're 13, but it spreads out. And I. I swear to God, just like you, I look up my high school friends in the 80s, and 50% of them have kids.
[141:12]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that's not good.
[141:15]
Danny
And people blame the Jews and they go, oh, the Jews have taught us to hate ourselves. Okay, whatever.
[141:20]
Gavin McInnes
Did they really blame the Jews for that?
[141:22]
Danny
They blame the Jews for everything. Yeah, I. I think that's.
[141:26]
Gavin McInnes
That's definitely a new thing.
[141:27]
Danny
Divorce magically traumatized Gen X. Gen X and down.
[141:32]
Gavin McInnes
Divorce was trauma. My parents divorced when I was really young, and I never thought. I never wanted kids until my wife hooked me in.
[141:41]
Danny
That's what I'm talking about.
[141:42]
Gavin McInnes
I met my wife when she was. It was like the day after she turned 19. And I was, like, somewhat successful for my. I was like 23, maybe 24.
[141:53]
Danny
What were you doing then?
[141:54]
Gavin McInnes
I was doing. I was doing documentaries. Filming documentaries.
[141:56]
Danny
Okay.
[141:57]
Gavin McInnes
And like, doing advertising, like making commercials and stuff like that. Because I was like. I was getting cross paths. I was like, the poor kid who I Was able to convince all my rich because I had a lot of rich friends and I was able to convince all of their parents to hire me to make commercials for their company.
[142:13]
Danny
Great.
[142:14]
Gavin McInnes
And so I was making.
[142:16]
Danny
And people would go, yeah, he had it handed to him. He had, he knew rich kids. Okay, you go make a commercial for the rich people that he was handed to. You know what I mean?
[142:27]
Gavin McInnes
A lot of the kids, though, a lot of those kids with rich parents, they ended up. It didn't amount to anything.
[142:31]
Danny
Yeah.
[142:32]
Gavin McInnes
But I was like, I was making decent money in my early 20s and then I met, I met her and I was like, what do you want to do when you grow up? She's like, I just want to be a mom. I want to raise kids. I'm like, oh, you loser.
[142:42]
Danny
Yeah, why? Why give away what feminism gave?
[142:44]
Gavin McInnes
I was like, you don't have any ambitions. You don't want to, you don't want to have a career. You don't want to be an entrepreneur. Like, that's what, that's what I was thinking in my head. And then when we had our first kid and I realized how amazing that was and how liberating that was to have like somebody who dedicates every fiber of her being to want to create a good human where I can keep doing my it and not have to worry about it and not have to worry about raising a up traumatized kid. Then I realized how magical that was.
[143:16]
Danny
Yeah, it's. It's been taken away from us by all this hipster left wing culture. And you make one and you go, what the was I doing? I'm glad I did Coke from 9pm to 9am rather than make a life and go to a kid's baseball game. Game. Like what if? And the Coke night. You don't remember one second of it. It's gone.
[143:39]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[143:40]
Danny
Meanwhile, my kids baseball games, I, I could tell you, you know, that, that he didn't get a double because they threw it to home. So it was actually technically a single. Though he did get on second. They robbed us of that. And it was boomers mostly. It was a boomers, boomer cemented divorce.
[144:00]
Gavin McInnes
So it wasn't the Jews.
[144:02]
Danny
Well, this is the problem. Like, Jews are exceptional whites. You look at the Nobel Peace Prizes, you look at the Fields Medal in mathematics, you're going to see a wildly disproportionate number of Jews.
[144:16]
Gavin McInnes
Why is that?
[144:18]
Danny
Well, one reason might be in Jewish culture, they value intellectualism, especially Israelis. But like, in Arab culture, who's the toughest Guy, you get the hottest chick. This is kind of true of Glaswegian culture too, where my parents are from, because my dad got a really hot wife because he was a brawler. But in Jewish culture, it's you. You're an academic. So you'll meet like a rabbi or a really smart Jew and his wife will be a fucking smoke show. That's their thing. So what you end up breeding is low T, high IQ people.
[144:52]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[144:52]
Danny
And that's interesting.
[144:54]
Gavin McInnes
Low T, high IQ people.
[144:56]
Danny
Yeah. Arabs are the opposite. They're low iq, high T. Sorry. Which is what's so weird about the Palestinian Israeli conflict. Like, you have these.
[145:08]
Gavin McInnes
They're genetically the same people. Yeah, they are. There's been a study done. They're literally ancestry testosterone.
[145:16]
Danny
So a Palestinian will launch a rocket over to the Jew side. And the beauty, the ideal thing about terrorism is you go like this, and then the people over there discuss that for like a week. That's. That's what terrorism is. I just want to do one little thing and make you all scared for months.
[145:32]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[145:33]
Danny
So they'll launch a rocket there, and the Jews are like, well, what did it mean? Maybe we should have said more, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, an Arab, you just like blow their head off and they're like, whatever it. I'll kill you. So they don't pontificate the way the Jews do. Do. And I, I think we see that with.
[145:50]
Gavin McInnes
Well, that's because of. Well, they're low iq, you think is because of the inbreeding. Right.
[145:56]
Danny
I think it's the culture of. They. They don't value intelligence in, in the Arab world.
[146:00]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, they value.
[146:01]
Danny
They value machismo.
[146:02]
Gavin McInnes
Different. Yeah, there's definitely different cultures, definitely different values. And I'm sure there's been an evolution of the gene pool over the years, but I know there, there was a study done, like a legitimate study that proved that their genetics were exactly the same. Like, they come from the same people. I think.
[146:19]
Danny
Yeah, they come from the same people. But look at, like, ask a Palestinian what 111 plus 17 is. And Israelis are inventing pills that have cameras on them where you take it and then you watch your digestional tract. This is why I don't think Israel should receive any more money. And a lot of Israelis are the same way. Like, we have cell phone technology, we have of medical technology. We don't like the stigma. This money, it's only 3 billion. We don't want it. We got our own money going on. Like, Israel's not propped up By America. Israel has got its own going on.
[146:58]
Gavin McInnes
Definitely. Yeah. But we are sending them billions of dollars for their war. Like we're sending them tons of money.
[147:03]
Danny
Yes. Stop, stop.
[147:06]
Gavin McInnes
And it's not like, like online you see like you were saying, everyone paints it with like, as in like the Jews are doing this genocide. It's all the Jews. And then you have all these people like Candace and you know, a whole bunch of people around her on the Internet where it's like there's legitimate on X, there's like a huge. I mean, I hate you calling people Nazis, but like if you look at these people's profiles, they're hardcore.
[147:27]
Danny
Yeah, I think the, the real impetus behind that is anti white racism.
[147:33]
Gavin McInnes
But it's not like, but it's at.
[147:35]
Danny
College campuses at least the whole Israel Free Palestine, that's anti white racism. They, there was, there's Sudan, there's Syria, there's a million Middle east conflicts that no one is remotely interested in.
[147:49]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, yeah.
[147:49]
Danny
Yet when there's a white on brown conflict, all of a sudden they give a about foreign wars. I don't trust you. I think it's. And it's disproportionately perpetuated by secular Jews the whole concept of fuck white people. So you have these anti white white people. Mostly a lot of them are Jews too. The kids are Jews. Like these Jews are sending, these secular Jews are sending their kids to Harvard, Yale, St. Andrews in Scotland. Their kids are coming back going, fuck Israel. So they've created a golem and I don't think they know what to do with it. And I'm sitting here in my Jewish neighborhood going, you said it was me. You said it was the Maga hats. Turns out it's not us. Turns out it's your allies, overly educated Marxists, refugees, Palestinians, blacks, all your heroes want you dead. And I've been sitting here just like this the whole time and you kept putting Nazi signs on my lawn. Wrong bad guy.
[148:54]
Gavin McInnes
Well, yeah, I mean I've had a lot of, I've seen, I've talked to a lot of Jews. I have a group, a lot of friends who are Jews and I've had people on here who are literally Jews from Israel who are like, like they call themselves anti Zionist Jews. They don't agree with the Israel.
[149:08]
Danny
No one understands that too. In America that you read like Israeli press and it reads like David Duke. There is like there's super conservative Zionist Jews in, in Israel, but there's ones that want the wall taken down. They hate this war. They Love Palestine. Right?
[149:24]
Gavin McInnes
It's like, I don't.
[149:25]
Danny
It's much more wide range than here.
[149:27]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, it's like, it's like the war after 9, 11, like the Iraq war. Like, I'm an American, but that doesn't mean I want to be associated with Bush, Cheney. Yeah, like those people aren't.
[149:40]
Danny
That's how they see Netanyahu. Got a piss again.
[149:42]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that's how they say that. Yahoo. Go piss.
[149:43]
Danny
Where do you piss? You have a secret pisser?
[149:45]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[149:45]
Danny
Oh, fancy.
[149:46]
Gavin McInnes
I do.
[149:48]
Danny
I. I'm dubious of guys who are really angry at me for liking Jews because they kind of smell like juice. Every time you, like get to the.
[149:57]
Gavin McInnes
Bottom of some major suspicious of you for liking Jews.
[150:00]
Danny
Yeah, I think they're Jews. Who are. They want to keep their enemies closer. So when you like see a real sting on like a white nationalist group, that leader tends to be secretly Jewish.
[150:14]
Gavin McInnes
Hmm, interesting.
[150:18]
Danny
Yeah, so don't trust like some super Nazi dude because he wants to recruit Nazis so he can have his Nazis in his pocket and you know.
[150:32]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[150:32]
Danny
Keep your enemies close.
[150:35]
Gavin McInnes
Well, everything's an op nowadays. Nothing's real anymore.
[150:41]
Danny
Dude, I saw this thread on AI and it wasn't just only fans, girls that are making a million dollars that don't exist, but like a stand up comedian going, I went to the zoo and they only had one animal there. It was a dog. It was a Shih Tzu. The guy was fake. The joke was fake. Like everything was fake.
[151:07]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[151:08]
Danny
This is actually good news though.
[151:10]
Gavin McInnes
Is it?
[151:11]
Danny
Yes, because we become so addicted to our phones and only fans and dating online and then seeing the girl, and she's ugly, whatever, that soon people are going to be like, well, the phone. I. I need to see you. I need to talk to you. Like sales. The old days in the 70s and 80s, a salesman would have to get on a plane. Like plane, trains and automobiles. Right? Right. And go and like, say, this is my Budweiser cans. What do you think? And pitch Mad Men. Yeah. Like. Or Chris Farley. Right. Like you have to sell it. And now that everything is fake online, zoom calls like, no, I need to see you in person. Yeah, I just smell your pheromones and see if you're full of shit.
[151:55]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, I think you're right about that.
[151:56]
Danny
Tucker Carlson said that to me once. He was talking about some guy we both know and he's like, that guy's gay. And I go, where the did you get that from? I've known him for 20. Tucker. Yeah, 25 years. And he Goes, I saw the way he kissed his wife. And I saw the way his daughter looked at him when he kissed his wife. Gay. And Tucker's very funny and raunchy outside of tv. Yeah, he's sort of like. He's like. He's sort of like Dave Portnoy kind of a guy.
[152:29]
Gavin McInnes
Like, he seems more like a frat boy. Yeah, like a. Like a.
[152:34]
Danny
Who's eastbound and down.
[152:36]
Gavin McInnes
Kenny Powers.
[152:37]
Danny
He's like a smart Kenny.
[152:38]
Gavin McInnes
No, he's nothing like Kenny Powers.
[152:40]
Danny
Yes, he is.
[152:40]
Gavin McInnes
He's the fucking opposite of Kenny.
[152:42]
Danny
So he goes, that guy's gay. And I'm like, how do you know? And he goes. And I go, that's not evidence, dude. What? He kissed his wife. You saw him for one second. And he goes. We've been around for a quarter of a million years, okay? If someone wants to kill us, we sense it. The ones who can't sense it, they're extinct. So we meet people face to face. We have smells we can tell who wants to fuck us, who wants to kill us, who isn't a threat, who could be a good pal.
[153:11]
Gavin McInnes
That's evolution.
[153:12]
Danny
We're constantly, like, smelling. We're like dogs.
[153:14]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[153:14]
Danny
Smelling people.
[153:15]
Gavin McInnes
That's funny.
[153:15]
Danny
So when I say this guy's gay, I'm not just basing it on one second, I'm basing it on 250, 000 years.
[153:21]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, well, Tucker, that's only coming from.
[153:23]
Danny
Him because I'm down, dude.
[153:24]
Gavin McInnes
He doesn't believe in evolution. He believes that evolution's fake.
[153:27]
Danny
In what sense?
[153:28]
Gavin McInnes
I don't know. He said it on Joe Rogan. He's like, evolution. We believe that.
[153:32]
Danny
Well, there's. There's. There's nuance to that, right? Like, of course there's people who say giraffes have tall necks because the ones with short necks got less food. But then there's the creationists that say God made short giraffes. Tall giraffes. Super tall giraffes. And these guys died out. I don't know, it seems like six and one half to half a dozen or the other than me. Can I get another beer, please?
[153:54]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, grab another beer.
[153:57]
Danny
He's a great guy.
[153:58]
Gavin McInnes
Tuck, did you see his interview with Putin?
[154:01]
Danny
Yeah.
[154:02]
Gavin McInnes
See, I love the part where Putin was ribbing him about trying to apply for the CIA. Tried to apply for a job at the CIA.
[154:08]
Danny
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[154:11]
Gavin McInnes
I got a lot of friends who think Tucker is an op.
[154:15]
Danny
Maybe the. The thing about these ops is everyone.
[154:20]
Gavin McInnes
Thinks everyone's an op on the Internet.
[154:21]
Danny
But you got to look at what they've done. Like say Charlie Kirk was a fed. Right. The, the good he's done for red pilling young people. I don't care if he works with Satan and goes back to hell every night. Like we win. He's red pilled. I'm going to say millions of people, millions of young men. So if you're a fed, then you're doing a real bad job. And Tucker too, like the government, the federal government is definitely pro Israel. Tucker is pretty anti Israel. He's very Pat Buchanan Paleo conservatives, definitely.
[155:04]
Gavin McInnes
Especially recently.
[155:06]
Danny
Yeah.
[155:08]
Gavin McInnes
It's just interesting seeing like his podcast and all the people that are going to his podcast now. And like, you know, he's doing all these like, like woo woo topics like talking about UFOs and like angels.
[155:18]
Danny
Interesting.
[155:18]
Gavin McInnes
And child traffickers. It's like completely like kind of like a away like a. He's going on a way different road than he was going on when he was on fox, which is understandable to an extent.
[155:28]
Danny
I don't want to toot my own.
[155:29]
Gavin McInnes
Controlling his own, but I did say.
[155:31]
Danny
I back when he was at fox. I go, I sent him the data and the data is people will pay. 7% of the people who watch you for free will pay. I go, you're getting like 3 million views.
[155:44]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[155:45]
Danny
7% of 3 million is over $100. I don't know the exact math. It's time to. I'm not saying he quit Fox because of me, but I, I, I think I helped him realize how. And I got this from Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan said to me, when you have a substantial following, it's stupid not to charge and let other people get rich off you. Like even YouTube. Why are you getting all my money?
[156:14]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[156:15]
Danny
So if you can get up to like even a hundred thousand people who want to hear what you have to say, it's time to. Yeah, like where is are you? Just YouTube.
[156:25]
Gavin McInnes
YouTube, Spotify.
[156:28]
Danny
So you're like the second they don't like you, which could be this podcast.
[156:31]
Gavin McInnes
This could be it.
[156:33]
Danny
This could be the last one.
[156:34]
Gavin McInnes
This could, this might very well.
[156:35]
Danny
There's a sort of Damocles, like. Yeah, I've decided no one can hear you anymore.
[156:39]
Gavin McInnes
Right, Right. And if I was like you, I would just not give a and let them ban me. Yeah, I got kids to feed. I have to, I have to.
[156:47]
Danny
You will feed plenty. I've seen your views. I wouldn't be here if your views weren't good.
[156:51]
Gavin McInnes
Oh really?
[156:52]
Danny
You could pay Your bills as with the subscription service?
[156:55]
Gavin McInnes
Well, we have Patreon. Have you ever heard of Patreon?
[156:57]
Danny
I'm familiar with Patreon.
[156:58]
Gavin McInnes
That's where people go to watch the uncensored.
[157:00]
Danny
Yes.
[157:01]
Gavin McInnes
Is your banned from Patreon?
[157:02]
Danny
Of course, dude. What? I didn't even know that was. I'm banned from Mondays when I go to bed at night. On Sunday I wake up, it's Tuesday morning. I have no idea how that happened.
[157:17]
Gavin McInnes
Did all these. All these bands happen on the same day?
[157:20]
Danny
Yes. October 12, 2018.
[157:21]
Gavin McInnes
So they all got together and said, let's ban Gabby.
[157:23]
Danny
It was before the midterms. They were looking. Maybe I didn't finish that story. It was before the midterms. They were looking for right wing violence. Mike told me to bring some pillows. The Jew I fired for being a Nazi. We left the pillows at the studio. 17 second fight. 4 years in prison for Max and John. And I became Persona non grata overnight. I was a rock star in the suburbs, because in the suburbs they're all nerds and they're like, oh, you're from New York City. Like, my kids were all born in New York City.
[157:55]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[157:56]
Danny
So we were all very popular. And then one day my daughter was like eating lunch alone literally within 24 hours. And you know what's funny about it? They're like, let's say my daughter's name is Margaret, which it isn't. Margaret's dad wants Maria to be deported. Like, their fear was they're maids in rich white suburbs. They love diversity of servants. That's why they always go, what, you don't like diversity? You can have Somalian food one night you can have Mexican food the other night you can have. So you're talking about a variety of people serving you, right? It's for the elites.
[158:31]
Gavin McInnes
Yes.
[158:32]
Danny
Diversity. It's a diversity of servants.
[158:34]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, I think you're totally right about that. You think you and Shane will ever get back together, be friends again?
[158:44]
Danny
Absolutely not.
[158:47]
Gavin McInnes
Never?
[158:48]
Danny
No. No. I mean, it's so extreme. It would be funny.
[158:56]
Gavin McInnes
It would be like, funny.
[158:57]
Danny
It would be like Jesus meeting Satan.
[158:58]
Gavin McInnes
Do you ever, like, have a. Do you ever, like, think like late at night one day, be like, man, it'd be so nice. Just throw the water under the brid. Budweiser under the bridge.
[159:07]
Danny
I sometimes have dreams like that, actually. I sometimes have dreams where Saru and I and Shane are friends. And then I wake up and go.
[159:15]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, I have one. I only have one friend like that that completely burned the bridge, that we never talked to again, we're really close friends. And we actually became not friends recording a podcast.
[159:26]
Danny
Oh, really?
[159:27]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[159:27]
Danny
What was the beef about?
[159:28]
Gavin McInnes
The beef was about we're doing a podcast with a guy who was explaining that he believes racism isn't real.
[159:37]
Danny
Girl.
[159:37]
Gavin McInnes
And my good friend from high school.
[159:39]
Danny
I kind of believe that. Well, it depends. That's a subjective way to phrase it.
[159:43]
Gavin McInnes
But whatever he says, it doesn't exist in America. There's no such thing as racism in America.
[159:46]
Danny
There's anti white racism is what he was saying. Yeah, okay.
[159:49]
Gavin McInnes
And he go. And he was explaining how his wife, who is Filipino, her mom wasn't allowed to drink at certain water fountains, you know, back in the day. And there was segregation. Like, there's Jim Crow. Like there obviously has been racism in America in the past. And they're definitely. There sure is. Is absolutely echoes of it today still. And he was like, no, there's not. And they were going back and forth. And then my friend who was sitting right there, he. He said, you know what? I can't be here anymore. And he got up and tried to walk away. And then the guy was sitting here, was like, what are you. What are you walking away for? I was like, what are you doing? We're just having a conversation, blah, blah. And my friend, who's extremely, you know, artsy, fartsy, graphic designer, liberal dude, married to a Filipino lady, he was like, no, you. And this guy was like, super jacked. Like 6 foot 5, ex military guy like me. Yeah, exactly.
[160:38]
Danny
Same guy. Yeah.
[160:39]
Gavin McInnes
And my friend's standing back there and he turns around and he goes. He goes, you.
[160:46]
Danny
He said.
[160:46]
Gavin McInnes
And they. The exact thing he called him. I remember it like it was yesterday. He said, you're a backwoods, UFO believing piece of military.
[160:57]
Danny
Right. Right in his face. The big guy or the big guy said that to the nerd.
[161:01]
Gavin McInnes
Friend said that to the big guy.
[161:02]
Danny
Oh, my God.
[161:03]
Gavin McInnes
And the big guy got up, threw him to the ground. My friend got into the.
[161:07]
Danny
Here, like, right here. Right there on camera?
[161:10]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. I never released it.
[161:11]
Danny
Oh, you gotta release it, dude. That's gold.
[161:13]
Gavin McInnes
I didn't want it. Yeah, it's gold, right? If I wanted the views, I could get them, but I didn't. I just.
[161:17]
Danny
It didn't get him.
[161:18]
Gavin McInnes
It felt. It felt gross. And he was in the fetal position like this while this guy's standing over him about to beat the living out of him. I pulled the big guy off of my friend and he eventually got out. So me and my other buddy, who my. Actually, I forgot to mention, I had my other buddy here. We were all three really good friends from high school. We went and grabbed a 24 pack of beer, went to his house, tried to, like, talk him down, be like, yo, so it's all right, bro. Everything's cool. Don't worry about it. Whatever. He calls me after that. The next morning, he calls me.
[161:46]
Danny
He's like, hey, we're done.
[161:47]
Gavin McInnes
We can't be friends anymore.
[161:48]
Danny
Yeah. Humiliation. He was so embarrassed. And he's never been in a fight before.
[161:55]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[161:56]
Danny
Well, let me guess. He has no brothers.
[161:58]
Gavin McInnes
He has a big brother. Yeah, he has a big brother.
[162:02]
Danny
Was the big brother around or.
[162:05]
Gavin McInnes
His big brother was in prison for, like seven years.
[162:08]
Danny
Okay, so was his big brother in his life? Because I noticed earlier, when you play fight with guys who don't have big brothers, a lot of money, they get, like, real violent, right?
[162:19]
Gavin McInnes
No, he had never been, like, a legitimate fight before like that. I mean, you can tell because if. If he would have done that to a guy at a bar, he would have got the living beat out of him.
[162:29]
Danny
If you switch guy, the wimp or the whip, big guy.
[162:31]
Gavin McInnes
If you point in some big. What? Some guy who's obviously say, that has a hundred pounds on you, is like jacked out of his mind on steroids. And there's like an ex military guy. You don't call him a 101 piece of military. You're gonna get curb style stomped.
[162:45]
Danny
The worst you do with those kind of guys is like, all right, all right, you're the big tough guy. I get it. Like Jim Norton said to Jesse Ventura, he was like, okay, you're Jesse Ventura. You're the tough guy. Whatever, whatever. He wasn't like, what you gonna do?
[163:07]
Gavin McInnes
Right?
[163:08]
Danny
Yeah, he's embarrassed, but, like, I still.
[163:11]
Gavin McInnes
Think about my friend all the time. I'm like, man. I'm like, we were like brothers.
[163:14]
Danny
Yeah. It's a weird thing with dudes, man, when you split up like that.
[163:19]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[163:21]
Danny
And girls, too. It's not like girls don't have a best friend forever that they lose for some weird. Like, my. My wife lost all her friends because of proud boys.
[163:30]
Gavin McInnes
Oh, really?
[163:31]
Danny
And she'll. She's trauma. Like, she's. She. She has PTSD now. Like. Like she's not interested in friends. And I'm like, our neighbors won an auction where we get to go to an Italian dinner together. And they have four tickets. And she's like, yeah, I don't wanna.
[163:47]
Gavin McInnes
Really get a root canal.
[163:48]
Danny
She's happy. She started boxing and stuff. Really so she's. She's. Her head's screwed on straight, but she doesn't like blow jobs enough, unfortunately, but.
[163:56]
Gavin McInnes
Doesn'T like giving them.
[163:57]
Danny
Yeah, well, she doesn't get them. She doesn't have a penis.
[163:59]
Gavin McInnes
Right.
[164:00]
Danny
But that's nice.
[164:01]
Gavin McInnes
That's good.
[164:02]
Danny
It's a plus. That's one of my favorite things about her, actually. I write that on our anniversary card. Still loving that you don't have a penis. Those are my pet peeve when it comes to lovemaking. Oh, God, that's funny. But it is interesting how these couples, you know, these friendships split, and it's never over anything real. I mean, with Vice, we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. So it's fair that we want to murder each other.
[164:29]
Gavin McInnes
Right? I would. I would give up a friendship for 100 million.
[164:31]
Danny
I hate those guys. Yeah, but.
[164:34]
Gavin McInnes
But you got paid out good, though.
[164:35]
Danny
I did pretty good.
[164:36]
Gavin McInnes
You were a third of the company. Right. And the company was valued at at least what, a hundred million dollars back then?
[164:41]
Danny
Yeah, at least.
[164:42]
Gavin McInnes
Probably more than that.
[164:43]
Danny
Sure. And I've made. I mean, I had an ad agency after that that made a ton of money. We sold it to Havas, and then with the. The subscription service, it's 40, 000 subscribers paying $10 a month because we merged today. Anthony Kumia.
[164:57]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah. Okay.
[164:58]
Danny
Now he gets half of that, but we do very well with that. But, like, most of my money just sits in the bank. Like, my dad offered me his apartment in Florida yesterday because he thinks he's dying. And I'm like, you know, eventually. And I'm like, okay, does that hurt? My. Like, it's not going to affect my taxes. I don't. I'm not sure I want your apartment in Florida.
[165:23]
Gavin McInnes
Well, there's definitely less taxes in Florida.
[165:25]
Danny
Being dirt poor sucks. Yeah. But once you get to, like, it's just as stressful. Over a hundred grand, we're all basically the same. Like, Jeff Bezos is on a fancy yacht. That's great. I don't think, like, you can rent a boat for the day. You can. You can. Yeah, you can spend a thousand bucks renting a boat. You know what I mean? It would be cool to have a private jet, but you can buy first class tickets.
[165:51]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah.
[165:51]
Danny
So I'm not denying that poverty is a bummer, but once you get to, like, middle class. Yeah.
[166:00]
Gavin McInnes
So you could have like a million bucks and live like you had 100 million.
[166:02]
Danny
Well, my. Some of my. My most prized possession is my 2000 Jaguar. It's an XJR. It's worth $17,000. If I totaled it, Geico would probably pay me 7. It's not considered valuable and I love that thing. Yeah, it's the last of good looking cars before they started turning into cough drops, which they.
[166:30]
Gavin McInnes
What year was it again?
[166:31]
Danny
2000.
[166:32]
Gavin McInnes
2000.
[166:33]
Danny
Look up that 2000 Jaguar XJR.
[166:36]
Gavin McInnes
Type it in. Let's see what it looks like. What color is it?
[166:38]
Danny
Black. All cars should be black. Yeah, there it is. That's my babes. I call it Jesus because I totaled it twice.
[166:46]
Gavin McInnes
Black.
[166:46]
Danny
Jesus, look at that thing.
[166:48]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, that thing is pretty sick.
[166:49]
Danny
Jaguars look like absolute now.
[166:54]
Gavin McInnes
Well, they're all electric.
[166:55]
Danny
Yeah, or even like they have the.
[166:57]
Gavin McInnes
They have the electric Jaguar that makes the fake sounds, the fake exhaust.
[167:01]
Danny
What's worse than that?
[167:02]
Gavin McInnes
Plays the music, plays the sound effects.
[167:05]
Danny
Uninvented shoes. We're going back in time. Oh yes.
[167:08]
Gavin McInnes
Croc so much.
[167:10]
Danny
Why don't you?
[167:12]
Gavin McInnes
Because they're convenient.
[167:13]
Danny
Oh my God. Are you washing your boat? If you're not washing your boat, you're not wearing Crocs at the airport. We're at 70% croc rate in the South Bronx with the blacks this month they hit 100% croc rate.
[167:32]
Gavin McInnes
Really?
[167:32]
Danny
100%? It's Friday night. You're going out with your wife. Not that blacks have wives, but not.
[167:40]
Gavin McInnes
The blacks have wives.
[167:41]
Danny
Jesus Christ. Everywhere you fucking go, blacks are wearing Crocs. And not just blacks. My kids, everyone, they're friends.
[167:50]
Gavin McInnes
I know a guy who's like a 400 pound New York Brooklyn Jew who now lives in Florida. Guys, he's probably. He has like $500 million worth of real estate. He's like a slum lord. And he's so fat, all he can wear is Crocs. He's so fat.
[168:06]
Danny
That's what we hear. I might have to get the airport, bro.
[168:08]
Gavin McInnes
What time is it? 5:18. Okay. All right, let's wrap it up.
[168:10]
Danny
Up. My flight's at times it leave seven.
[168:15]
Gavin McInnes
Seven. Okay. Yeah.
[168:16]
Danny
Well, I got to go now.
[168:17]
Gavin McInnes
Okay.
[168:18]
Danny
I got to go now.
[168:21]
Gavin McInnes
Let's wrap it up. All right, that's all. Tell people where they can watch your stuff on YouTube or not on YouTube.
[168:26]
Danny
I'm sorry, on censored TV. You cannot watch me on. Oh, I'm late. You cannot watch me on anything but censored tv. That's why I'm there.
[168:35]
Gavin McInnes
Well, you'll be able to watch you there's interview with you on YouTube. Other people have done, which is nice. At least you're not in that way.
[168:40]
Danny
Are there a few, maybe. Yeah. Okay.
[168:43]
Gavin McInnes
Censored tv. I'll link it.
[168:46]
Danny
Thanks for having me, guy. Great show. Fun times.
[168:50]
Gavin McInnes
Of course. Thanks for coming. Good night, world.