Danny Jones Podcast #326

Guest: Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet (Ret.)
Title: Navy Admiral Warns Unknown Objects are HUNTING Our Nuclear Submarines
Date: August 25, 2025
Duration: ~2.5 hours

Main Theme

A deep-dive with Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet into oceanography, the mysteries of Earth's oceans, classified naval operations, unexplained phenomena (UAPs/USOs), and the stark reality that the deepest parts of the planet—and the potential threats or visitors they may harbor—are less understood than the moon or Mars. The conversation explores Navy submarine cat-and-mouse games, government UFO secrecy, undersea drones, consciousness, and why humanity urgently needs to know more about what's happening beneath the waves.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Admiral Gallaudet’s Background and Oceanography in the Navy

• [00:50] Gallaudet introduces himself as a naval oceanographer with 32+ years’ experience, including multiple degrees, leadership at NOAA, and work closely tied to Navy SEALs, submarines, and intelligence agencies.

  • "Environmental information for the Navy… is used in every mission. Submarine, aircraft carriers, mapping the seafloor. We still know so little." — Tim Gallaudet [01:08]

• [02:22] He joined the Naval Academy with the dream of becoming an oceanographer, inspired by experiences at Scripps and competitive ocean swimming.

• [03:41] The role of Navy oceanographers involves mapping, weather forecasting, supporting SEALs, submarines, intelligence collection, and more.

  • Only ~400 Navy oceanography officers: a rare specialty.

• [04:24] Two combat tours on aircraft carriers; describes supporting strikes into Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • "Our ship was relatively safe, but those were exciting tours." — Gallaudet [04:25]

The Unexplored Ocean and Why It Matters

• [04:44] Just 25% of the seafloor is mapped; 75% remains unknown.

• [05:22] 90% of ocean volume is unexplored—even by drones or ROVs.

  • "Hollywood hasn’t dreamed up anything as weird as what we see in the sea." — Gallaudet [41:00]

• [05:49] The moon and Mars are mapped at higher resolution than Earth's seafloor. NOAA is chronically underfunded versus NASA.

• [06:37] NOAA’s operational ocean forecasts are vital for US economic security, ship piloting, and even rip current safety (kills ~100 people a year).

• [07:33] NOAA's Ocean Exploration and Research program funds deep-sea ROV missions to uncover shipwrecks, new species, and more with partners like Bob Ballard and his explorations of WWII wrecks.

Nuclear Submarines, Cat-and-Mouse Warfare, and Shadow Undersea Games

• [08:40] Gallaudet rode Columbia and Ohio-class nuclear submarines; describes Arctic submarine war games, British/American naval rivalry, and the brutal cold of under-ice naval exercises.

• [11:08] US and Russian/Chinese subs regularly patrol off US coasts, each bristling with nuclear warheads.

  • "Our submarines are really good. We were literally under adversary submarines, videoing their propellers without them knowing." — Gallaudet [13:19]

• [13:56] "Blind Man’s Bluff" recommended as Cold War undersea espionage canon: discusses cable-tapping ops and the ongoing, classified nature of such activities.

Strange Undersea Encounters and the UAP/USO Phenomenon

• [61:00] Gallaudet reveals a rare first-hand account from a US ballistic missile sub officer:

  • Contact tracked similarly to a Russian torpedo, but exhibited control, stopped directly behind the sub, and followed for a time before leaving at impossible speed.
  • "This was in 40-foot seas in the North Atlantic—nothing should have been able to detect or catch us, let alone maneuver like that. Impossible for any known tech." — Gallaudet [62:21]

• [62:57] Submarine UAP/USO (Unidentified Submerged Object) stories are ultra-classified due to nuclear/undersea security.

• [63:27] The Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) likely holds more underwater UAP/USO data than even the Air Force.

  • "If UAP data exists anywhere in the government, it’s in those submarine program vaults, locked tight." — Gallaudet [63:14]

• [65:42] Undersea sensors often pick up non-physical targets: “Active sonar detects a loud, large object, but no passive signature at all—meaning no machinery and no explanation.”

UFO/UAP Secrecy, Media Disinformation, and The Wall Street Journal Articles

• [50:46] Gallaudet and Chris Mellon challenged two recent Wall Street Journal attempts to debunk UAPs as cover stories for secret US programs or mere "hazing rituals."

  • Points out factual errors, counter-evidence, and misleading sourcing (including psychological warfare practitioners).

• [54:15] Arrow (the gov’t UAP research office) tried to dismiss the Nimitz/Tic Tac as a US tech demo—Gallaudet and multiple pilot witnesses reject this narrative due to the object's performance and lack of plausible wartime application.

  • "If we had that tech in 2004, units could have saved lives in Iraq/Afghanistan. The idea we’d withhold it is irresponsible.” — Gallaudet [54:15]

Navy and Government Culture Around UAPs

• [72:57] Navy has a trove of video/data on UAPs, e.g.:

  • The “Omaha” orb: Sphere enters the ocean, logged officially as "splash" in the ship's bridge log.
  • "It's so frequent off Southern California, we're desensitized to it." — Gallaudet recounting a crew member's words [75:21]
  • Many Navy personnel, from pilots to surface ship crew, are seeing and quietly documenting these events.

• [76:43] In squadrons, some officers remain uninterested, others deeply affected. Once, a "metallic sphere" the size of a car moved calmly over equipment, then shot away at impossible speeds.

• Navy Intelligence: There is a classified file, “Range Fowlers,” housing videos considered anomalous and not explained by any known technology or adversary.

Ocean Drones, Tech, and Potential “Alien” Engineering

• [88:16] Gallaudet ran the largest undersea drone fleet in the Navy (120+ gliders and other types).

  • DARPA and the Navy are developing advanced biomimetic drones for persistent ocean surveillance.
  • "We're turning into the aliens ourselves." — Gallaudet [89:21]

• [94:47] When China seized a US ocean drone in 2016, it sparked an international incident—highlighting just how sought-after and advanced this tech is.

The Atlantis Debate, Ancient Tech, and Hidden Ocean Civilizations

• [101:38] Discusses recent excitement over a possible "Atlantis" structure off Spain; Gallaudet disagrees (doesn't fit Plato’s account), calls for better evidence but says ancient sunken sites are absolutely possible given sea-level fluctuations.
• [105:46] The Silurian hypothesis: Earth is so old that multiple advanced civilizations could have arisen and vanished, leaving zero trace.

Megaliths, Ancient Engineering, and "Impossible" Artifacts

• [109:22] Granite vases, step pyramids, and cyclopean stonework demonstrate machining skills that modern CNC shops cannot replicate, much less Pharaonic Egyptians with “flint chisels.”

• Gallaudet: "We have to rethink many theories. It's not so extraordinary to imagine technological civilizations elsewhere—or before us—given the sheer age and size of the universe." [111:36]

Government Secrecy & Disclosure Barriers

• [146:12] Gallaudet hasn't been read into UAP/USO special access, but speaks for the credibility of sources like Elizondo, Eric Davis, and Jay Stratton.
• [147:44] Disclosure remains blocked by:
  • Classification: Not wanting to publicly admit the US cannot protect its own airspace/sea.
  • Whistleblower legal traps: Potential jail time or career destruction.
  • "The American people deserve to know the nature of reality. The government knows it. They should disclose." — Gallaudet [148:01]

Consciousness, Remote Viewing, and the Nature of Reality

• [114:11] Gallaudet’s wife is a student of controlled remote viewing, having replicated accurate “unthinkable” target visions repeatedly.

• [116:58] Conversation on mass, data, and information: data on hard drives has weight, paralleling dark matter; “Our consciousness might be the interface with a computational universe.”

• [122:01] On life after death: Gallaudet is certain human consciousness survives physical death, citing direct experience and research at UVA, DOPS, and by Bigelow.

• [127:06] Plants and animals, too, possess consciousness—supported by anecdotal and experimental evidence (e.g. plant responses to music and tree “pain” experienced via DMT).

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "You want to know about non-human intelligence—go scuba dive a coral reef." — Gallaudet [39:34]
• On submarine encounters: “We dove nearly to crush depth; when the contact got close, it stopped, followed, and left rapidly. No known weapon or tech could do that.” [62:21]
• “It’s so frequent off SoCal, we’re desensitized to it.” — Petty Officer’s report to Gallaudet [75:21]
• “I’m 100% certain that human consciousness survives death.” — Gallaudet [122:01]
• "If any UAP data is anywhere, it's locked in those submarine vaults." [63:14]
• "If you look at monarch butterfly migration, that’s quantum nonlocal information transfer in the natural world." [124:17]
• “Government won’t disclose because: ‘How do you admit you can’t control your own airspace or ocean?’” [147:49]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:50 – Gallaudet’s Navy/oceanography background
• 04:44 – Mapping the ocean vs. outer space
• 11:08 – Nuclear sub patrols, US-Russia/China cat-and-mouse at sea
• 13:56 – Cold war sub espionage, “Blind Man’s Bluff”
• 61:00 – Nuclear sub USO encounter
• 72:57 – Navy UFO videos, Omaha orb incident
• 88:16 – Undersea drone technologies
• 101:38 – Atlantis & ancient lost civilizations
• 109:22 – Impossible granite vases, megaliths as evidence of lost tech
• 114:11 – Remote viewing, consciousness
• 122:01 – Life after death & consciousness studies
• 146:12 – Why true UAP disclosure is still blocked

Notable Names Referenced

• Chris Mellon – UAP disclosure advocate, Hill op-ed coauthor
• Sean Kirkpatrick – Ex-Arrow; accused of UAP “debunking”/disinfo
• Dave Fravor, Alex Dietrich, Ryan Graves – UAP Navy pilot eyewitnesses
• Avi Loeb, Jacques Vallée – Leading thinkers on ET life/NHI
• Richard Dolan – USO researcher/writer
• Jeremy Corbell – Released key Navy UFO/USO videos
• Victor Vescovo – Private explorer/adventurer, mapped ocean trenches
• Carl Nell, Lou Elizondo, Jay Stratton, Eric Davis, Hal Puthoff – UAP program insiders
• Jesse Michels – Investigative journalist, recent UAP exposés

Additional Fascinating Points

• [94:50] Diego Garcia: Called Area 51 of the Indian Ocean but Gallaudet claims no specific knowledge beyond its value as a strategic base.
• [97:58] Full ocean depth: Only one tank on Earth (in Russia) can test sub pressure hulls to Challenger Deep (35,000ft).
• [144:49] Undersea bases? Most plausible place to hide: “Where people aren’t… but off Southern California is a huge hot spot, and that's crowded. Why?”

Closing

• Gallaudet’s Book: "Holding Fast in Heavy Sea: Leadership for Turbulent Times"—blends Navy leadership stories, ocean discoveries, and NOAA and Trump-era anecdotes.
• Advocates for open, responsible UAP/USO research and for re-examining mainstream science’s dogmas in light of mounting anomalous evidence.
• "I don’t have an agenda, I just want to know the truth. The American people deserve that." — Gallaudet

Find Tim Gallaudet: LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter)
Book Publisher: Kohler Books

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