Danny Jones Podcast #341

Guest: Dalia Burgoin (Mother of a Telepathic Autistic Child)
Date: October 17, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the extraordinary world of psychic abilities, focusing on the lived experiences of Dalia Burgoin and her daughter, Lilu, a non-speaking autistic teenager who communicates telepathically. Host Danny Jones and Dalia explore how these abilities manifested, how they are trained, the science and skepticism around them, and what lessons might be drawn for everyone about the untapped potential of human consciousness. Demonstrations of "vision without eyes" and blindfolded reading bring a practical component to the conversation, making for a wide-ranging, mind-bending discussion about spirituality, science, and the human mind.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Discovery and Early Experiences

• Dalia's Childhood Memories
  • Dalia recalls having telepathic abilities as a child, perceiving adults couldn't do what she could. She would easily win games where others had to guess, just by knowing what others were thinking ([01:29-04:25]).
  • She lost these abilities gradually, not noticing their disappearance until her daughter's gifts emerged ([04:55]).

"I just remember thinking it's telling the teacher. It's because they're thinking about it."
— Dalia ([03:47])

• Growing Up and Spirituality
  • Though not raised in a religious family, Dalia was drawn to holy places and meditation as a child for their "energy" ([06:21-06:58]).

2. Dalia’s Path to Rediscovering Abilities

• Blindfolded "Vision" Training
  • Inspired by stories of Indonesian children learning blindfolded vision, Dalia refused to believe adults couldn't learn it ([07:40-09:50]).
  • She underwent rigorous blindfolded practice known as the "dark walk" for months until she started to see room outlines with her mind's eye ([10:05-10:26]).
  • Eventually, through training, she developed the ability to see colors and read, later teaching this to others, including the visually impaired ([12:58-13:03], [79:40-86:29]).

"When I went to the actual seminar, on the second day, I started to see colors for the first time. And they were very shocked because they hadn't seen anyone open that fast before."
— Dalia ([11:50])

3. Lilu’s Story: Autism and Telepathy

• Communication Breakthrough

  • Lilu, born prematurely and diagnosed with severe autism, was a non-speaker until age 11, but showed extraordinary savant abilities in art and backward singing ([13:03-14:31]).
  • The use of “spelling to communicate” unlocked her first meaningful dialogues, revealing her telepathic faculties ([14:48-24:47]).
  • Dalia recounts the emotional moment:

    "There's nothing worse than being in a silent prison."
    — William (another non-speaking autistic boy, via the letterboard) ([22:46])

• Telepathic Experiences

  • After opening up, Lilu explained she’d always been able to read minds and access memories, not just of her mother but of others as well ([27:23-30:01]).
  • Examples include knowing what song her mom was looking for before being told and "eavesdropping" on her parents from outside ([25:03-27:03]).

4. Nature and Mechanisms of Telepathy

• How It Works for Lilu

  • Lilu can access both current and latent thoughts, and other locations or timelines. Dalia shares stories validating these claims:
    • Lilu giving tailored messages to people, accessing details and memories even the subjects had forgotten ([27:31-30:01]).
    • Lilu assisting in family healing by relaying messages from deceased relatives during a family gathering ([132:24-136:12]).

• Spiritual Mentors and Energy Perception

  • Lilu describes a lifelong relationship with non-physical “mentors” or “teachers,” and experiences mentoring/communicating with spirits and animals ([30:51-33:17], [38:11], [34:11-36:18]).

5. Community, Training, and Scientific Engagement

• Other "Spellers" and Telepaths

  • Dalia has observed many other non-speaking autistic children can do mind-reading, describing group experiences at spell-to-communicate camps ([41:38-45:45]).
  • Lilu’s skills have prompted research interest from neuroscientists and institutions (Dr. Diane Hennessy Powell, Stanford, Harvard, IONS Institute) ([39:28-41:38], [78:41-86:29]).

• Scientific Testing and Demonstrations

  • Real-time demonstrations during the podcast: Dalia, wearing blackout blindfolds, accurately identifies colors, shapes, words in books held out of her view ([87:58-92:29]).
  • Dalia describes how she teaches both sighted and blind individuals to use “vision without eyes,” and the training process ([79:53-86:29]).

"I work with blind people and I'm talking people with no eyes. People who were born blind, never seen a light a day in their life, and in just a couple days they're reading..."
— Dalia ([80:01])

6. Related Abilities: Telekinesis, Electrokinesis, Remote Viewing

• Expanding the Spectrum
  • Dalia co-organizes seminars teaching telekinesis (moving objects with the mind), blindfold vision, and introduces peers who perform electrokinesis (manipulate electrical devices by energy) ([69:33-71:44]).
  • Discusses government research (Project Stargate), remote viewing, and the similarities between these phenomena and classic psychic traditions ([47:49-52:14]).

"I've only done remote viewing a couple of times... every time I would, yeah, I would have a really good experience where I would go and I would not only see it, but I would feel like I'm there."
— Dalia ([50:30])

7. Philosophical and Spiritual Implications

• Free Will, Fate, and Spiritual Structure
  • Lilu’s perspective: souls choose their life paths with “teachers/angels” guiding them. There’s free will, but certain futures are seen as “lessons” ([60:56-62:50]).
  • Dalia sees value in both spiritual freedom and religious structure, with group practices enhancing psychic training ([63:10-69:33]).
  • The interplay of mind, consciousness, and brain as an “antenna” for larger awareness is discussed ([104:57-126:41]).

8. Hearts & Minds: Emotional Nuances

• Impacts on Family and Self-Concept
  • Lilu’s telepathic openness means she sees all thoughts, yet with radical nonjudgment and compassion ([121:55-123:57]).
  • Messages from ancestors through Lilu lead to profound healing in Dalia’s family ([132:24-136:12]).
  • Lilu inspires telepathic experiences in others who interact with her.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Realizing Her Daughter’s Abilities Were More Than Guesswork:
  "I just remember picking it. And the teacher's like, how do you know? ...It's because they're thinking about it."
  — Dalia ([03:47])

• On Spelling-to-Communicate Unlocking Lilu’s Voice:
  "There's nothing worse than being in a silent prison."
  — William, via letterboard ([22:46])

• On Losing Childhood Abilities:
  "I never noticed it turning off...I just kind of went on my life and didn't notice it until my daughter came out."
  — Dalia ([04:55])

• On Blind-Seeing and Teaching the Blind:
  "I work with blind people... and in just a couple days they're reading..."
  — Dalia ([80:01])

• On the Reality of Telepathy Experiences:
  "Whenever scientists see what she does, they end up baffled... they're like this at the end. Their eyes are wide open and many scientists will cry..."
  — Dalia ([39:28-41:38])

• On Skepticism and Belief:
  "All I have to do is show them that they can do it. And then once they see it, it becomes their new reality."
  — Dalia ([76:56])

• On the Uniqueness of Her Daughter Among Other Savant Autistic Individuals:
  "She has severe autism....once she started communicating...the first thing she says: 'Well, yeah, I can discern spirits.' That was the first thing."
  — Dalia ([13:03-14:31])

• On the Experience of Telepathy:
  "She has access to our memories...whenever I read a book, I can discuss the book with her right afterwards. It's as if she read it too."
  — Dalia ([30:03])

• On Universality of these Abilities:
  "Anyone could do telekinesis. Anyone can do it. We all were born with the ability."
  — Dalia ([74:41])

Timestamps: Important Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|:--------------:| | Dalia’s early telepathy memories | 01:29-04:28 | | Disappearance of abilities, childhood spirituality | 04:55-06:58 | | Blindfold practice and "dark walk" | 09:59-12:58 | | Discovery of daughter’s abilities, communication breakthrough | 13:03-24:47 | | Lilu’s telepathy described, stories | 25:03-34:11 | | Energies, spirits, animal communication | 34:11-38:42 | | Scientific testing, engaging with academia | 39:28-41:38 | | Demonstrations of blindfolded perception | 87:58-92:29 | | The process of training “vision without eyes” for blind and sighted | 79:53-86:29 | | Philosophical discussions: free will, spiritual structure | 60:56-69:33 | | Remote viewing, related psychic abilities | 47:49-52:14 | | Family healing, messages from ancestors | 132:24-136:12 | | How her abilities affect others around her | 136:12-137:44 |

Episode Flow & Tone

The tone is curious, at times skeptical but open-minded, and always compassionate. Dalia’s clarity, humility, and attention to nuance build trust. Danny Jones acts as a translator for an audience likely new to these ideas, peppering the conversation with science, personal reflections, and humor.

Additional Resources

• DaliaBurgoyne.com – Contact, seminars, and further information
• “Extra-Ordinaries” seminars (upcoming)
• “Telepathy Tapes” research by Dr. Diane Hennessey Powell
• Spencer: Engaging the Phenomenon podcast; research on psi-phenomena

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