#386 - “The Sphinx Proves History Is Wrong” NEW Lost Ancient Text Revealed | Matt LaCroix

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Danny Jones Podcast #386 Summary

Episode Title: “The Sphinx Proves History Is Wrong” NEW Lost Ancient Text Revealed | Matt LaCroix
Release Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Danny Jones
Guest: Matthew LaCroix

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Overview

In this mind-expanding episode, Danny welcomes returning guest and author Matthew (Matt) LaCroix to reveal groundbreaking research that challenges the entire narrative of ancient human history. Building on previous discussions about lost civilizations, megalithic mysteries, and ancient symbols, Matt unveils what he calls a “paradigm-shifting” discovery: a global blueprint (or code) embedded in the world’s greatest ancient structures – including the Sphinx – which contradicts mainstream historical timelines and links civilizations across continents through cosmology, symbolism, and a forgotten tradition known as Hermeticism. The episode is packed with visuals, quotes from ancient texts, and radical new theories about the origins of human knowledge and consciousness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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I. Challenging Historical Timelines

[00:18–09:00]

• Mainstream History’s Flawed Timeline:
  Matt critiques the standard academic view that civilization began 6,500 years ago in Mesopotamia, dismissing everything older as primitive. He points to new findings, like a million-year-old skull in China, as hints that history is "getting older and older."

  “Everything just keeps getting older and older and older... there are definitely academics researching this stuff and publishing on it.” — Danny (01:34)

• Hidden Evidence of Lost Chapters:
  Matt argues that similarities in megalithic construction across cultures (e.g., Peru, Turkey) suggest a lost, sophisticated civilization predating the known timeline.

  “The timeline that we know of for human civilization is completely antiquated and outdated, especially based on a lot of the new evidence that’s emerging.” — Matt (08:21)

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II. The Code of the Ancients: Symbols, Stones, and Sites

[09:00–48:00]

• Universal Symbols and Megaliths:
  Matt guides listeners through examples of matching megalithic architecture and motifs (giant T-shapes, step pyramids, and precise masonry) in distant regions like Turkey, Peru, Bolivia, and Egypt, arguing it's impossible these arose independently.
• The Sphinx Blueprint Revelation:
  In a pivotal moment, Matt recounts his “invisible gorilla” epiphany, recognizing an inverted step-pyramid and T-shape motif beneath the Sphinx, visible only from a rarely-photographed private area.

  “The Rosetta stone that may have unlocked everything is in the one off-limits private area in the Giza Plateau. Coincidence?” — Matt (52:33)

• Temple Layouts Contain Embedded Code:
  He and his academic collaborators (notably Dr. Robert Schoch) verify these symbols are not just decoration—they are embedded in temple blueprints, repeating worldwide (Kailasa in India, Tiwanaku in Bolivia, Temple of Horus, etc.).

  “It’s one thing to argue symbols and stones… it’s another to have those same symbols embedded into the entire temple layouts. You can’t argue those.” — Dr. Robert Schoch via Matt (58:17)

• Citizen Archaeology Movement:
  Matt calls for a “citizen archaeology” movement, urging laypeople to help uncover and interpret these codes.

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III. Decoding the Blueprint: Cosmograms and Universal Structure

[48:00–73:00]

• Meaning of the Symbols—Cosmograms:
  Matt identifies the key word “cosmogram” and connects it to an ancient tradition of encoding cosmological understanding in temple designs—essentially, maps of the universe and the path to balance and consciousness.

  “They’re encoding the structure of the universe into their temples… as above, so below.” — Matt (70:04)

• Ancient Hermeticism:
  He links this system directly to Hermeticism, proposing that the world once held a shared philosophy: the universe (and humanity’s purpose) is a triadic structure—physical reality, celestial reality, and the underworld.
• Loss and Suppression of Knowledge:
  The destruction of this civilization led to the loss of knowledge, only scattered remnants of the code surviving in myths and secret societies.

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IV. Dating the Civilization & Cataclysmic Events

[73:00–99:00]

• Separating Myths, Floods, and Catastrophes:
  Matt carefully distinguishes between different cataclysmic events:
  • The “Adams event” (LaChamp Event): a geomagnetic excursion and global flood ~41,500 years ago, which matches Sumerian flood myths (Ziusudra)
  • Younger Dryas (~12,000 years ago): a later catastrophic event.
• Ancient Alignments for Dating Structures:
  Utilizing star alignments (e.g., Sphinx facing Leo), he argues the Giza monuments date not to 2,500 BCE, but possibly 38,000 years ago, allowing for the growth and spread of the lost civilization.

  “Those are the only two dates that the Sphinx can align with Leo… 12,000 or 38,000 years ago.” — Matt (90:51)

• Long Golden Age:
  Matt posits a >20,000-year golden age of advanced civilization after the first flood, evidenced by architectural and symbolic sophistication.

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V. The Code’s Deep Meaning: Balance, Technology, and the Human Blueprint

[99:00–118:00]

• Triadic Universe and Sacred Geometry:
  The recurring elements—T-shapes, step pyramids, three doors—represent the tripartite reality (underworld, physical, celestial) and the importance of balance.

  “The key to everything was balance… Balance within, balance without, balance in the world around us.” — Matt (112:47)

• Implications for Technology:
  Matt speculates that the code encodes not only philosophy but technology—possibly even consciousness gateways or “realm gateways” (e.g., how Gilgamesh entered the underworld)—with ancient use of gold, stone, and geometry enabling otherworldly experiences.

  “I believe these are realm gateways… a human would lay on the altar…and it would literally be a realm gateway to take consciousness—and allow you to go to other realms of reality.” — Matt (148:31)

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VI. Hermeticism, Suppression, and the Fate of Ancient Knowledge

[129:00–144:20]

• Hermeticism as True Root of Ancient Wisdom:
  Matt traces Hermeticism from ancient times to its codification in Egypt and Greece and its central axiom:

  “The father of all things consists of life and light…” — Quoted from The Hermetica (133:20)

• Church Suppression and Modern Amnesia:
  He recounts how Church authorities had Hermeticism discredited and practitioners persecuted (credited to Isaac Casaubon, mid-1600s); knowledge was scattered into secret societies or lost.

  “They wanted to stamp out hermeticism because it’s a threat to everything... and now, with this ancient code, we can prove it.” — Matt (142:32)

• Modern Relevance:
  For Matt, reclaiming this code is the path for humanity to return to balance, avoid self-destruction, and experience a "renaissance of the people."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Importance of Rediscovered Knowledge:

  “What I found was about a thousand miles beyond [evidence of a lost civilization]… I never imagined that would happen.” — Matt (06:50)

• On the Ancient Code and Hermeticism:

  “They encode the structure of the universe into their temples… Cosmogram is the word that unlocked everything.” — Matt (69:24)

• On the Sphinx Discovery:

  “The Rosetta stone that may have unlocked everything is in the one off-limits private area…” — Matt (52:33)

• On Humanity’s True Role:

  “We are the manifestation of all these things that are playing out here, and that a human eye looks like a nebula and a brain cell looks like a universe—because everything is based on a fractal source code.” — Matt (143:04)

• On Hope for the Future:

  “Before I die, this world will be completely different than it is now.” — Matt (159:07)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:18–08:21 — Setting up the civilization mystery; mainstream history vs. mounting new evidence
• 11:00–14:53 — Timelines, justifying violence, and rewriting the story of civilization
• 17:01 — Why the lost civilization left no writings; the power of symbols
• 52:31–54:05 — Matt’s “invisible gorilla” moment and Sphinx temple discovery
• 58:17 — Dr. Robert Schoch: “You can’t argue temple layouts”
• 69:24–73:00 — “Cosmogram” and decoding the universal blueprint
• 73:00–99:00 — Dating the civilization: Adam’s Event, Younger Dryas, Sphinx/Lion alignments
• 112:26–113:47 — The T as symbol of balance; code as 3, 6, 9 (Tesla reference)
• 133:20–137:06 — The Hermetica, Hermeticism’s key passage, and transformative knowledge
• 144:22–118:00 — Purpose of the pyramids: realm gateways, stargates, consciousness tech
• 152:00–159:07 — How this blueprint (and its rediscovery) could change civilization

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The episode is a high-energy, sincerely philosophical journey—with Matt weaving myth, hard science, and speculation into a compelling tapestry. There’s a tone of awe, a sense of “history in the making.” Danny, scientifically curious yet skeptical, grounds the conversation with questions and the “normie” perspective.

Matthew LaCroix consistently calls not just for a shift in academic paradigms, but for a renaissance in human consciousness, guided by the newly discovered ancient code—a blueprint, he insists, that is humanity’s inheritance, and its only hope to avoid self-destruction through imbalance.

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For further exploration:

• Matt LaCroix’s book: The Missing Key: Ancient Code of a Lost Civilization
• Matt’s YouTube channel and The Stage of Time website

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“Imagine what we could do with this... a new renaissance, a citizen archaeology. Let’s take back our story.” — Matthew LaCroix (approx. 157:00)

Transcript

[Danny Jones]

Foreign. Welcome back. I'm very excited to talk to you, bro. Where did we leave off last time? We were talking about a lot of crazy stuff and because you, on the last podcast that you did, you had just returned from Turkey, I think.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, we. This show is actually going to be a really wonderful expansion.

[Danny Jones]

Yes.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Off of everything that we were laying out last time and discussing and because so much has happened since the last show that we did and a lot of what we were talking about before, Danny. And of course it's always a pleasure to have conversations with you, my friend. I really, truly appreciate talking to you.

[Danny Jones]

I'm pumped, man.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, I am too about this. And so last time we were laying out this mystery. Right, let's. We'll set the stage here. This mystery of do we have a lost civilization, a lost chapter of our history that has not been acknowledged by mainstream scientists, academics, you know, and that has been fought over for a long time. You know, there's academics like for instance, Dr. Robert Schoch, who's part of my team, who has, you know, presented a lot of really significant evidence to show the water erosion on the Sphinx enclosure. But things like that have still not shifted the narrative. It still remains the same. Right, Danny? That where our civilization emerged 6,500 years ago in ancient Mesopotamia and anything that exists before that is hunter gatherers and primitive. And that has been a fierce line that very few academics have wanted to cross.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, but wasn't there a recent article that came out, this might have been more than, more than a year ago actually, that they found a Chinese a skull in China that they said was over a million years old. Remember that article, Steve, that we pulled that up recently in a podcast. There, there's, there's research that's coming out that's dripping out, whether like, like everything just keeps getting older and older and older. So like there are definitely academics that are researching this stuff and publishing on it. Million year old skull rewrites human evolution. Scientists claim this was published September of 2025, so about three months ago.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And I think.

[Danny Jones]

Easy, dude.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, that's where we're going to continue to see these new pieces of evidence coming out that are challenging the old narrative.

[Danny Jones]

And it says, it says that it's our species, so our species, almost a million years at least.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And that's why what I'm about to present and what we're about to talk about should not be that shocking then. Right. If we consider the fact that, well,

[Danny Jones]

normies aren't reading these articles. That's the problem we gotta, we gotta, we gotta initiate the norm.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay, well, we're gonna bring some evidence today, Danny, that's, that is, I believe, paradigm shifting. And I'm not going to say that grandiose statement without backing it up. With extensive evidence, what we're about to go over is historic. And I mean that on the, on the most serious sense. Okay? This is not something that can go back in the box. This is Pandora's box opening.

[Danny Jones]

Meaning this new research that you recently

[Matthew Lacroix]

discovered, this is based on. After our, a number of months after our podcast, I, when we filmed in Turkey, we finished the filming, and I'll give a little snapshot to where we were. We had finished filming in six countries. Six countries. We got, we had Cambodia, we had Turkey, we had in the United States, in the, At Penn Museum, in the Archive museum, right? Peru, Bolivia. And then we were adding. And of course the Philippines. And we added the last one, which is part of my discovery, which is I'm going to get into here. So essentially we were done. We were going to do all post processing on the documentary, we're going to do all the editing. It was time, right? I was very proud of what we'd done. I am very proud of it. And I felt like what we had laid down was a lot of evidence to really show that there was a forgotten or missing chapter of human history. But not a primitive chapter, a quite a sophisticated chapter. Not talking about cell phones and computers, but their own level of sophistication and understanding and high level of knowledge. And what I didn't expect, though, Danny, is how everything unfolded after. And so I think we need to, we need to spell this out and lay out, lay out some things before we get to that moment, though, because we're kind of jumping too far. Okay, so what we were essentially talking about in the last show is, is there a lost chapter of human history? And we were, I was showing you similar symbols in different parts of the world, similar megalithic masonry, right? And we were talking about them. We were talking about ancient cuneiform tablets. We're discussing ADAPA member being and all those things. Well, this is going to take that to a completely different level. We're going to go down a road in which we can actually say not only do these symbols match around the world, but we can now prove what they mean, what they're leaving behind for us to understand and what those implications are in history for history. And that's what we're going to lay down in the show. And I guess I'll start with Just this example right here. Really quick, just to set the stage here, Danny. I think it's helpful people see these things because when you talk about them, you say, oh, by the way, have you ever seen how big the megalithic masonry blocks are at Ollantaytambo? Most people are like, oh, I'm, you know, I don't know. I've never seen that before. Well, take a look.

[Danny Jones]

So people listening. This is going to be a very visual podcast, so I highly recommend either watching it, the video version on YouTube or on Spotify. But this is one you're definitely going to want to see with your eyes.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, there's a lot of visuals and graphics. I spent an enormous amount of time putting these together because what I realized

[Danny Jones]

is fantastic stuff, man.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Thank you. What I realized, though, when I started presenting this only recently, because I had to publish the book first, I could not talk about this discovery until the book was published. So the missing key, ancient code of a lost civilization is out. I'm really excited for that, to unveil this to the world so that God forbid, if something happens to me that this model and what I've found is preserved. So going back now on the left, you see Ollantaytambo. It's in Peru. It's an ancient site that's considered Inca, and yet you have unbelievable granite stones that are sometimes in excess of 50 tons a ton, is 2,000 pounds. And around the world, you see the same thing. Here in the Van region of Turkey, you see megalithic masonry that looks extremely similar to other parts of the world. But we're told that they had no contact ever in history, and that any of the cultures that built them not only didn't have contact, but had no kind of advanced skills to build anything. And they've never really been able to explain how they've been able to do anything these things. And there's a reason for that, and because they don't know.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And that's the truth. And so if we look at just these quick examples as I'm pointing this out, there's a. There's a mystery here, Danny. There's a mystery in which humanity has to understand who built these? How did they build them? Why did they build them? And what we're going to get down to in this, as we go along here in this conversation and this research and this evidence is answering those questions, but going much further than that, going far beyond I ever imagined that I would ever get to again, as I pointed out, I was simply in this whole purpose of my journey in this, the documentary, the books, the trips all around The World with Dr. Robert Schoch and Hans Orheim and Omer Tan Yurich and all these experts and archeologists and geologists, we just wanted to find evidence of a lost civilization so that that narrative can finally exist. But what I found was about a thousand miles beyond that. And I never imagined that that would happen. I wasn't planning on that. Look. Wow, this is going to be incredible when I find. No, I didn't know that any of this was going to lead to what it did. And that's where. When the audience is listening to this right now and seeing this, we're starting with stones and where we end up maybe that moment where people are sitting quiet contemplating everything. Because this is the most advanced ancient code ever left before in human history. This civilization left. I'm not showing the code yet.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

What I'm about to get into and show is a highly advanced code in which they meticulously left it around the world so that when they. When they were destroyed, in which they knew, because they were tracking cycles, they knew their own destruction, Danny. And they knew that this knowledge was so fundamentally important that if it was lost, civilization could go down a very dark road. A road of war, destruction, and disconnection. And so here we are at this very interesting time in human history when justification exists somewhere that we should. That war is okay, and that we should be doing all these terrible things and have all the division and all these things around the world and polluting the earth and all of it, right? It's like we have this justification that we're allowed to do it. Why? Well, because we based ourselves on something. We based ourselves on this. This is a time. This is the timeline of human history in which everything that we think we know about ourselves comes from. So if. If Danny Jones was saying, I want to try to understand myself from an origin age, you would look at this and you would say, okay, so everything started 12,000 years ago, and everything since then has emerged into civilizations that eventually became war cultures and went on to become what we are now. Well, what we're going to do is basically destroy this timeline. We're not going to take all the pieces that are in front of you that are known about, for instance, things like the Roman Empire and others. But there are pieces of this that we are going to completely have to take and move very far in another direction, okay? Because the timeline that we know of right now for human civilization is completely antiquated and outdated, especially based on a lot of the new evidence that it's emerging. And so if you look on the left side where the arrows are, we're told that 12,000 years ago the Ice age ended. And that's the transition from hunter gatherers to societies of agriculture. Okay, Right. Why am I telling you this? Because if you look at how human history continued beyond that point, we got to this place of having to start over again. You see how they show. Look right there at the ice age ends right there. Hunter gatherer societies. Look at how primitive they look. Well, there is some truth to the idea that we were completely reset to having to go back to hunter gathering and starting fires. I agree with that. I'm not disagreeing that that happened. But what about before that? That's where this whole thing is going to open up.

[Danny Jones]

Well, that's probably when the pyramids were built.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And that's what we're going to get into is that this entire chapter you're looking at is not the only chapter of human civilization, but the second chapter.

[Danny Jones]

Yes.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so that is what we're third or fourth.

[Danny Jones]

Who knows?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Right. Let's just say not the first. How about that? We'll say not the first chapter.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And that's where this is very important that we, we sit here for a second. Again, we justify our actions with all the violence and war around the world. I mean, this is. There's not a better time to talk about this than right now.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

We justify this based on one very specific fact right here, that we emerged as war empires. Okay. Somewhere around 4,000 years ago with the Egyptian empires, the Ottoman empires and the Assyrian empires and the Akkadian empires and the Babylonian empires, the Mede civilizations. Those are what these images are.

[Danny Jones]

Yep.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So what happens? Well, academics, scientists say that's how we started. That's how we always were. We emerged from war cultures all battling each other. So then what happened? Darwin tries to understand what role we play with evolution for all the other species on Earth.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

You know this story. So he goes to the Galapagos, he's studying all the species and he doesn't understand. Humans don't seem to fit into anything.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

The only thing we seem to match are ants battling and fighting each other like red ants. Because it's the only, one of the only species in the world that will go to war against each other. Ant hills do.

[Danny Jones]

Well, it's interesting. Every other species on Earth is, is in this symbiosis with nature.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Exactly.

[Danny Jones]

And there's this balancing act that happens in nature and it like you said, and I don't. Human beings don't really fit into that. We just like sort of tip the scales.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But we should, right? And so that is where this is going to go, is that. Are we a war species? No, I'm going to. What we're going to. Again, the reason this is here is because of the state of the world. And I also, when I go through this work with people and I show the civilization that existed, this lost civilization, and I, I talk about how there was no war and how there was no none of these things, people don't seem to understand why that's so important. Because we define ourselves on this. You see that, Danny? It gives us all the justification we have to say we've always done it, it's what we are. So that's why we should continue doing it. What we're about to do is show that none of these things ever existed. War didn't exist, destroying the planet didn't exist. Living in harmony, in complete balance was not only important, was necessary. And that this civilization basically unlocked every single secret understanding that we don't know today. They were masters of everything that we don't understand. And that's why instead of looking forwards as humanity moves forwards, we need to look back in order to understand probably far more than we ever imagined. And that's where this is going to go. Is that. Again, I wanted to start with this because it's a very important moment to point out that our timeline is based on our understanding of what we are. Right. We're about to change that understanding. So if we change the understanding of what we are and what role we're supposed to play, then how would that then ripple out into what we are now? Sure. You see what I'm saying?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, totally.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so let's do this, Danny. Let's rewrite the entire story. And I want to bring evidence in that is so astounding and shocking that people may have their jaws on the floor from some of this. Because honestly, some of the feedback I've already had from a lot of the audience and people that have seen this, it's. It's mind blowing and it's been hiding in almost in plain sight. Okay, so let's. You ready to get into it?

[Danny Jones]

Let's do it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. So it all be. It all begins with this idea of where did we start? Well, remember the timeline? Ancient Mesopotamia. That's true. But that's not the first chapter that started there. Imagine chapters of our history. One rises up, falls, gets destroyed, another one builds in the exact same place because they understood it's important, and various other reasons. And so you get this combination of civilizations, like a jumble of one on the bottom and then one that's built on top. And then archaeologists come and they go, oh, that's built by the same civilization. No, no, no, no. There's been more than one that's come and gone. And that's why the masonry looks so different, why the artifacts look so different, why the layers are completely different in where they are. Okay, right. So let's start with. This is an actual real photograph. We talked about this a little bit last time, but I have to set the stage here. This is a mythical city called Sharupac. It's considered one of the first cities in the tablets ever. Ever built. The tablets, Ancient Mesopotamian tablets, for instance, the Sumerian king lists, the Atrahasis, the Eridu genesis, the. All those tablets discuss the same thing. They say there was five cities created first on Earth and that nothing existed before then, and that after that there were other cities and other emergences of those civilizations that came later on in history. But the wild thing is, though, is that even though the tablets state that Shurupak was one of the original first five cities, the academics don't. In fact, academics up until potentially even now believed that Shrupac wasn't real. It was a myth. And that's the same thing that happened with Troy. Right. When they found Troy in the 1800s in western Turkey, all of a sudden they realized that this. This story that's been throughout history is a. Is based on a real place.

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So all of a sudden you're like, wait a minute. So allegory and myth, Is there truth woven into that?

[Danny Jones]

Well, it's hard to know when you're just reading text. Right. Because as you know, in modern day, texts tend to lie.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. And then it can be rewritten over time based on influences of other people.

[Danny Jones]

Well, by its very nature, it's deceptive. Writing is deceptive.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It definitely is, which is why it's very interesting that this civilization that I have uncovered didn't leave any writings behind at all. They didn't believe in writing.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That might seem crazy until you go into the dialogues of Plato and Socrates. Do you know that Socrates told Plato, basically his emphasis or his stature on the whole idea of writing versus versus talking was that he didn't believe that anything could be written down because it could be misinterpreted too easily.

[Danny Jones]

Which.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's dangerous because then if you die and then it's just oral tradition, right? Well, there may not there be some truth to that, because this civilization, as far as I'm aware, they left behind symbols and motifs, but no writings. So if you can put a complex meaning. So let's say Danny Jones is like, well, I want to put in a super complex meaning of something. You can take a really large amount of information and condense it into one single thing. That's the brilliance behind symbols. So we think writing is so advanced, but actually symbols are far more advanced because they can carry complex meanings that can carry over through time. Right off.

[Danny Jones]

Kind of a random antidote to this is, have you seen the. The crop circles that this. The guy in the Y files. I saw this on a clip the other day, was showing these crop circles of. Basically it was pie. Have you seen this? It's insane. Like there's. It's like these. These perfect. This perfect diagram that's like printed into like a wheat chaff field or something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

And it like they took it and they like made a rendition of it and it's like perfect. It's a perfect depiction of PI. It's insane.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And I think the reason for that is that that is the level of knowledge that we're talking about that this civilization encoded. So it's the same thing.

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

What you're about to see, you're going to be like, oh, that's. That's exactly what it is.

[Danny Jones]

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[Matthew Lacroix]

But let's. Let's start here just for a minute here. I want to explain something. Now, you see on the right I have Irok and Gilgamesh. Okay, so this is the famous excavation of a place called Telfar, Iraq, in 1931. That was the reason why I went to Penn Archive for the documentary, because Penn Archive in Pennsylvania has all the records from this excavation. So you can go and you can. You can read through them all and you can actually see things you can't see online. So in that excavation expedition in 1931, they're trying to find shrupack even though it's not real. Okay, and you see on the right that this six to seven feet down Uroc. You see that? U R U K in Gilgamesh.

[Danny Jones]

Yep.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Super important we remember this going forward. Why? Because academics still today, to this, to this day now, will say that Urok and Gilgamesh is where civilization began. That's okay. And if I go just, I'm just going to jump ahead just for a second and show you. If no one believes me, you just do a Google search and look. So this is not me saying this. Academics actually believe that not only was Gilgamesh part of the Sumerian civilization, but Iraq was a Sumerian city.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Which none of those are true. Neither of those are true.

[Danny Jones]

But this is, this is consensus though.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, this is consensus is in what they consider to be truth. The problem is that none of the tablets say that Iraq was one of the first cities at all.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

None of them do. So why are they saying that? Well, because this is literally a lost time period of human history. So what I mean is if you look at this image again, this is a real image when they dug down way beneath what they called stratum layer number two, which is the Iraq and Gilgamesh time period, which they identified in the reports. So it doesn't make any sense. They're already contradicting themselves anyway when they discussed this, they state that they dug way down below Gilgamesh. Why? Well, they shouldn't have been because nothing should have existed beneath there. Not only that, but like 60 or 70% of the team left because they didn't expect anything to find, because there's not supposed to be anything that exists beneath that layer. That layer of Gilgamesh represents the layer they consider to be the rise of human civilization. Does that make sense? And everything before then is hunter gatherer, Stone Age.

[Danny Jones]

Where did they find these tablets?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, the tablets have come from all throughout Iraq, places like Sippar and the Ashurbanipal library, which are these ancient libraries that the Assyrian and Neo Akkadian kings had preserved. So the tablets are all what we call Neo Akkadian and Assyrian and Babylonian tablets. Now they say they're Sumerian, but I have come up to evidence to show that there are no Sumerian tablets. It's all Neo Akkadian tablets. Neo Akkadian was what time period gilgames? Neo Akkadian is 6, 000 years ago during the time of Gilgamesh.

[Danny Jones]

So they dug these tablets up in the same strata layer.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So they dig up the tablets from Gilgamesh and they confirmed that that time period got it with Uruk. But they keep digging. Why? And that's what it's so fascinating is in the report. Again, most people left from the excavation, they keep digging. At 13ft down, they hit a massive flood layer of material, completely void of all human evidence, just of evidence of a massive flood, just like the tablets describe. So ancient tablets like the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh, they describe an ancient flood, you know, the narrative that destroys the old world. Right. Well, when they're excavating this site, which Sharupac is supposed to exist before the flood, they find a flood layer 5 to 6ft thick that is unbelievably thick for an event like that to create that. And then when they dig underneath it, they find Shurupak. And they acknowledge that it's very interesting that Shurupak exists beneath this flood layer and seems to coincide with, with the descriptions from the tablets of this great deluge. Right. But then they go on to say that it has to be purely myth and speculative and they are not willing to go any further. Now, when I found that excavation report, it in many ways was the beginning of what led to everything else. And that's why I'm starting here, because not only do we need to start at the beginning, but this is what cracked open to me, the first major academic crack of a paper that was contradicting itself, that had massive information, an evidence of basically a lost civilization that they were not acknowledging was, was that it were they were then falling back on myth in legend. Okay, so again, I just pointed out that this is the problem is that we, we are now having to say, well, okay, so Shrupack's not, not part of the Iraq Gilgamesh time period, then what part of time period? What time period is a part of that?

[Danny Jones]

But the, the tablets, right, about Sharupac.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. Okay, so all the tablets discuss that Eridu to Shupak was the ended with Shirup was last. Iraq was in a complete reemergence thousands of years later. And yet academics believe that that's when it all started.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So that's what we're essentially tackling right now.

[Danny Jones]

Got it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. Now in this story, and that's why some of these slides are so important, because it's really complex stuff. I had been tracing this very mysterious phrase in tablets and it's only in two cuneiform tablets. It's in a tablet called the Death of Gilgamesh, or Death of Bill of Games. And it's in another tablet called the Enkian World Order Tablet. They're both on here. So bear with me here for a moment. Now, this is super important that we go over this because you'll see that what this is, is what this lost civilization encoded, if that makes sense. So check out this here. Just they. They discovered the death of gilgamesh in the 1800s. It's from near pure Iraq. Right. It was pieced together by assyriologist Samuel Noah Kramer. Great guy, did the best he could at the time. Right. He's the greatest serologist. Now, I'm going to read this and then I want to break it down really quick. Lord Bill of Games, having erected stele for future days, having founded temples of the gods, you reached Saya Sudra. In his abode, you brought to the land the me of Sumer that were forgotten forever. The commandments and rights. Danny, first of all, check this out. It says right there that this is Gilgamesh. By the way, who. The story. If you're not familiar with it, if anyone has not read the Epic of Gilgamesh. Have you read the Epic of Gilgamesh?

[Danny Jones]

I've not read the original, but I've read rough translations.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So let me just give a little brief synopsis of what it is, because then you'll have to understand it versus what this is in context. So in the Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh is a tyrant king. Not so mythical. He's a tyrant king of the city of Urok. See that? And he goes on a journey to find the secrets of immortality and learn all these lessons. And he meets a companion along the way named Enkidu. And there's all these astronomical connections that are not. They're allegorical, they're not real, but there's a journey still. There's a journey that exists in it. Why? Because Gilgamesh is with his companion, Enkidu, and they're on this adventure and Enkidu dies. He gets killed. And Gilgamesh is so moved and so affected by this that he fears his own mortality so much that he becomes obsessed with this journey of finding immortality. That's what the Epic of Gilgamesh, the entire thing is about that. Okay? He wants to live forever. Very noble of him, right? So in the Epic of Gilgamesh, if you read it, he. The way he finds how to. Well, at least the way to be immortal, even though you can't be immortal. We'll say that is. Is through this hero, Zaya Sudra. You see that? Zaya Sudra, according to the tablets, is the last king of Sharupac. Okay, okay. That we were just looking at. And it's described that he's this. He's what all religions based the character on Noah, on all of them.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

All Hebrew and Christian traditions base themselves loosely. I'm gonna. I'm gonna emphasize loosely on the original stories of what Zaya Sudra, his life. Okay. No, there was not two of every animal. All that stuff was. Was rewritten in an added layer. That's not what the tablets say. What they actually say is that Zaya Sudra is a great sage and a king of Sharupac. And he's warned by his patron God, Enki, that a great disaster is going to come that is going to wipe out the old world. But the Anuna Anunnaki, the gods, the Pantheon gods, made a pact that they're not supposed to tell anyone. No humans are supposed to know that this disaster is coming because they want to wipe them all out. That's what the story is. It's from the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Both of them, they tell the same story. They completely overlap. So Zaya Sudra is warned by Enki of this catastrophe. So he is told to build this ark. We all know that story, right? And he lands up in the Mount Ararat region. Well, that's where all the tablets break off and fracture. We never, ever find out what happens again. There's no tablets that exist beyond that point. From that point of Zayasudra. It's a mystery. We're gonna fill that mystery in today. But before we fill that mystery in, we have to first understand this part. Okay, so now. Now we're caught up. Okay? Now, when Zayasudra lands in the Ararat mountains, the Anuna gods descend down from above, and they say, how could any man survive the flood? And Enki says, paraphrasing, I warn I, because I warned Zayasudra so he could preserve the seed of mankind. Now, I had originally thought the seed of mankind was genetics. It's knowledge, but a very specific kind of knowledge. Okay? Because Zaya Sudra lived and preserved that knowledge, who's a great sage. He was rewarded with being the last and still last human ever given immortality.

[Danny Jones]

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[Matthew Lacroix]

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[Matthew Lacroix]

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[Danny Jones]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's based on this. That's, that came from this story. So imagine Gilgamesh gets into the underworld and we'll get into that as we go along. And he's ferried across what the tablets talk about. He's ferried by Sharon across the abyss into the underworld, okay? Wild to think about. He gets there and he meets up with Zaya Sudra. And then this is where we're continuing now, right? And he says, and look at some of the really key parts here. He reaches Zaya Sudra in his abode, see? And he says, here, you brought. He's Zaya Sudra is talking to, he's talking to, he's talking to Gilgamesh, okay? He says, you brought the land to the land the mes m e s you brought.

[Danny Jones]

You brought to the land the mes

[Matthew Lacroix]

of Sumer that were, that were forgotten forever. Okay, so first part there. Sumerians not part of the same time period. You see that? Look, look at how he references Sumer. He says that we're forgotten forever. He's talking about a huge amount of time that has gone by between these events, okay? And we know that because in the Epic of Gilgamesh, he says that he was once from a city called Sharupac, that was long before Gilgamesh. So we know that Sumer, Sumerians and Zaya Sudra, it's from a completely different time period than Gilgamesh.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I really want to establish that. It's very important we understand that. Now I became extremely interested in this

[Danny Jones]

concept of me's it Knowledge, the knowledge of Sumer.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, that's, yeah, basically. Well, it's knowledge, but it's a type of knowledge.

[Danny Jones]

Okay?

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's where this rabbit hole is going to go. Now as I, as I'm studying that and I'm writing the book the Missing, the, the Missing Key, and we're doing the documentary and we're writing in some narration, we're including it, but we don't know what it is. I didn't know what it was. I was, I knew it was knowledge, but what kind of knowledge?

[Danny Jones]

What's the language?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, it's, it's Sumerian, but it's Neo Acadian, meaning that. I believe that the story was actually first written down by Gilgamesh, not before. Okay, so that's what I mean by that. Now Samuel and Noah Kramer did his best to translate this, but I don't think he got commandments and rights correctly. In fact, I know he didn't. Instead of commandments and rights they're more like divine statues of the universe. Okay. And I can. Now this is where we're going to prove it. Okay.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Now here is the only other tablet of all the Hun. There's 100,000 Canadian form tablets, Danny. Hundreds of them haven't even been translated.

[Danny Jones]

Wow.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But of the known tablets, only two mention the Mes. Well, that's. That survived. Right? There's a lot of these things get destroyed. We're talking about huge time periods. You're lucky if things happen.

[Danny Jones]

How the hell does anyone translate that? What even is that?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, it's cuneiform writing or they're wedges in clay. And essentially once you can, you can crack the code, you can understand it. And what I. What we're looking at right now is what's called inky in the world order tablets.

[Danny Jones]

It looks like. It looks like old leathery elephant skin or something. You can't. It doesn't even look like anything.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's because it's thousands of years old.

[Danny Jones]

Right. I'm just saying like, good lord. To be able to translate actual like English out of that is bonkers.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So, Danny, on the left side, take a look at what it says. It says it's talking about Inanna and Enki.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Anana is a goddess of the Anunnaki.

[Danny Jones]

Anuna.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Right, right. So she's talking about visiting. She basically, she goes to visit Enki in the Abzu. What's the Abzu? The temple to the underworld. Enki is a God to the underworld. Okay. So she goes to see him and she says, she describes how she knows the me. Now I'm going to it's me's in English, but me in Sumer. But we can't say me because it doesn't really work as we're talking. So what they did is they translated to say me's, but they're the same thing. Okay, so it says she knows the me's, the holy laws of heaven and earth. So that's not quite the same as commandments and rights, is it? Which is how we know, unfortunately, Samuel, Noah, Kramer mistranslated that part.

[Danny Jones]

Commandments and rights or holy laws?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, because he's looking at it from kingship, from an existing structures of kings. That's why he's doing it was. It's just an. It's just based on an existing understanding.

[Danny Jones]

I get it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. So this is where it all this all really began. What are the me's? Well, that is exactly what this lost civilization encoded into all these temples around the world all These symbols that we've been following, which is what I cracked and found and which is what we're about to give back humanity. Something that has not been known about in this kind of capacity in potentially centuries, if not longer, maybe millennia.

[Danny Jones]

Let's do it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Let's do it.

[Danny Jones]

So show me.

[Matthew Lacroix]

We begin here, right? You've seen these. These giant teas, by the way, that tea, that's from Shavuz Tepe in eastern Turkey, near the Mount Ararat region. And that weighs around seven tons.

[Danny Jones]

That little thing.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That is not so little. That is made. First of all, it's made out of basalt.

[Danny Jones]

Okay?

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's a volcanic stone. Remember, all stones aren't created equal. Some stones are very soft, some stones are very hard. And to manipulate them and work with them really matters. Depending on that. Because if you don't have tools capable of that that are harder than what you're working with, you're not gonna be able to do anything with them. Right. Which is why Iron Age and Bronze Age tools could never have created these things. Now, this is the first motif I want everyone to pay attention to. I did not know what it was at first. I didn't understand. Now, Danny, do you see the center of that T? You see how my hands on the left picture? Do you see how my hands are on either side? But there's a central square. See that? That top part, the line from left to right is exactly 12 inches. It's the first foot. We're talking about a mathematical on the inside. Yes, Math. And Robert. Robert Grant was there filming with me, and we were measuring that. And with also Dr. Robert Schoch, we were measuring that, and we were like, whoa, Here we have the foot. One of the most important early measurements in mathematics. Now, the reason I say that is that I didn't know what these were. We're following these, and it's a T. Okay, it's a T. But what does the purpose of a T have with all around the world? Well, that is where we really start to unfold. Now, if you look carefully, you'll notice the T's repeat themselves all over this in the center and around the gods. And then you get introduced to these other symbols. We talked about some of these before. The step pyramid, the doorways. Okay.

[Danny Jones]

Oh, that's wild. The teaser. All in the background.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But what I didn't understand is what they all mean, Danny. Okay, so these sites around Eastern Turkey have these mysterious, enigmatic ruins, these highly sophisticated andesite and basalt places that archeologists today are considering Urartian from 2100 years ago. But the Urartians were an Iron Age primitive culture that we know. Their adobe mud brick is built on top. So they adopted these sites and build castles on them. So they called them things like Khaleesi. So klessi means castle or fortress.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But that's not what at all what their original purpose was. So this just gives you a really good snapshot example as we're talking about this, is that I started to notice, and that's why we did the documentary, is that the, the teas from Shavuz Tepe look really similar to the same motifs from Puma Punku in Bolivia. Across the world. The. The basalt stone, perfectly square stone blocks look really similar to Bolivia too. And then Kef Kalesi, the bas relief, the step pyramid, the three level step pyramid design. Okay. And the three doorways. You start to see it mirrored around the world. But these cultures are not supposed to have any contact. Not only that, but what they're building into is not adobe, mud brick or anything primitive. It's some of the hardest stone in the world.

[Danny Jones]

What stone are these? What are these?

[Matthew Lacroix]

So that's what's wild, is that every stone you see is either basalt, salt or andesite in most cases. And it's the. On a. Give me an example how hard that is to work with. It's what you have what's called the Mohs hardest scale.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So you take zero. Right. Like diamonds. Yeah, diamonds is 10. Right, right. Well, these stones would be like seven, eight or nine.

[Danny Jones]

Wow.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Very, very, very hard.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, Maybe they had to be hard. Right. I mean, this certainly is not the easiest way to do this. Right. So like they were. Why were they choosing the hardest stones?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, not only will it last the test of time, but they have piezoelectric mineral properties we're going to get into.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay.

[Danny Jones]

We're doing some Minecraft shit. You know how you build the portals in Minecraft with the obsidian.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Wait till you see we're about to go on this.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, I knew it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I love this. And you start to realize that it's more like an ancient technology. Okay. So again, I'm just giving an example of how far away these locations are across the world. They're not supposed to be connected in any way.

[Danny Jones]

Is there anything in North America?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, and everybody keeps asking me this. Let's, let's answer this because it's like never ending patriotism questions because they want to know what's there. Right. I get it. North America was a very inhospitable place, I'll say specifically the United States. Mexico wasn't Mexico, obviously Mexico. Central America down to South America was a totally different ball game. But the United States in particular, Canada, where everybody asks about, sure was so inhospitable. North America because of the glaciation during the last Ice age, that that area was in some places, like for instance, up in northern Montana where people think there's a wall. There probably wasn't even life living there during the Ice Age because we're talking about ice caps that are miles thick that are what are we call moving. They're moving forward and backwards based on slight thaws and freeze. And so if you're going to place that has that ice cap going back over you, it's grinding everything down to nothing beneath you. No trees can really live. That's why when people bring this up about the United States, there are no ancient, highly advanced megaliths. But that doesn't mean there's no evidence of what we're looking for.

[Danny Jones]

So these are.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Some of.

[Danny Jones]

Most of these sites are. A lot of these sites are in Turkey, Correct?

[Matthew Lacroix]

A lot. Most of them are in South America. Turkey, Egypt places, some places in Southeast Asia and some other places.

[Danny Jones]

Like what latitude does Turkey match up with in North America?

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's all built on this 30th, 40th latitude parallel. It's 30th to 40, 30 to 40th parallel, depending on where you are.

[Danny Jones]

Where does that run through in the

[Matthew Lacroix]

U.S. well, that's, that's going to be. That's going to be south. I mean, keep in mind our.

[Danny Jones]

Can you find it, Steve?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Our climate is not the same here. It is in those parts of the world. You have what's called the Gulf Current off of the Atlantic that creates huge warming environments in a lot of Europe and in parts of, even parts of Western Asia. So it's not. This latitude doesn't necessarily always.

[Danny Jones]

The latitude doesn't matter.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Doesn't always work out that way because, for instance, you know, the climate of like London. Right. Well, it's just rainy and mild.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Whereas that's way further north in New York City. And yet New York City, you know, Boston or wherever it gets snow every year. Right. It has to do with climatic effects. But the reason I'm saying this is that there are, there are pieces of evidence in the Southwest United States that we're going to get into.

[Danny Jones]

Steve, what did you search? What latitude does the US Run into? Yeah, I thought that's what you said. No, I was saying what, what, what latitude Is Turkey, Is Turkey, is Turkey on, like. And, and if you ran that line straight through the U.S. what, what is what U.S. states are on the same latitude as Turkey.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It doesn't work that way because of glaciation. Right.

[Danny Jones]

I'm just curious. I'm just curious to see. I would be. Can you pull up an image or something?

[Matthew Lacroix]

The ice caps in Europe and Asia were very different than they were in North America. The, the ration ice cap in North America. North America was like the largest on Earth besides Antarctica. I see, okay. So it just became a very inhospitable place.

[Danny Jones]

But if you were to draw a line around the globe, it would probably run into like, New Jersey or something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, yes. And unfortunately, the US Was just not a very hospitable place during that time period to build civilizations, and they just didn't because of that.

[Danny Jones]

Right. How old were those white sands footprints that we found?

[Matthew Lacroix]

We can talk about that.

[Danny Jones]

So I don't want to derail you.

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, I mean, it's good that we point this out because we're told that, that we're told that we'll go back to this map because this highlights it really well. We're told that humans first entered the Americas by the Bering Street Strait during the last ice age. Right. And that that's how they got here. Well, the problem is that White Sands, New Mexico just occurred within the last couple years. Right. White Sands, New Mexico, are these footprints that have been in, that have been preserved from Homo sapiens sapiens that were in North America more than double the age that we're told. So we're told that they got here around 12,000 years ago or so. 12, 16,000 years ago. The White Sands footprints are 26 to 28,000 years old. Confirmed. Confirmed.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So not only is that double the now that people are here, but it basically completely takes the timeline and says, oops, what about all this other stuff? Right. And we're going to add a lot more to that. And you brought up the United States. And again, I want to just bring up that as we're going to go through this. There are sites in the Southwest, like the Three Rivers petroglyph site, that have this code embedded in their petroglyphs, meaning that there were continuations of this knowledge far later on into Hopi and Pueblo nations. So those are what people are asking about. Chaco Canyon. That has T's in some of the doors. Yes, there were. There was a continuation of some of this knowledge into the Southwest United States. And it survived for a little While before.

[Danny Jones]

Interesting.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, but we're going to. That's at the end. Let's go. Let's go back to the beginning.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah. Make sure we talk about the Choco Canyon stuff. I want to do that.

[Matthew Lacroix]

First thing I. First thing I notice is look, you have the three step pyramid with the doorway in Ollantaytambo in Peru, across the world. The left side broke off. Why? How is that possible? They're mirror and mimicking the same things. They're not supposed to have any contact. And then same thing. Ollantaytambo. This is called the spring of the Nusta. You get the same three level step pyramid with the three levels inside. And a spring, not only a spring, literally. Ollantaytambo is built because of this spring. So if you go there, the spring flows. They actually designed it to flow right through the center of their site. And they redirected the flow. How wild is this? They redirected the flow to then have it flow over sacred things. They designed.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So it never originally flowed over that rock. They designed that symbol. And then why do they flow the water over it? Because the symbol itself has a direct representation meaning that has to do with balance, harmony, water, like what the ancients believed as well. So that was why they essentially encoded that in that. Right. So here we have again, the most important symbol in South America, the Chicana. Well, what are the chances that Chicana is the same symbol as the step pyramid in Turkey? You're looking at these motifs and symbols that are carrying all around the world. But what does it mean? What is all this?

[Danny Jones]

You can't date this, right?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Because, well, we can't date stone, but they can date alignments to things and we're going to get to that. Okay, so here I was. And right now we're caught up to where we were last time.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So here we see these symbols are all around the world. They're. They're in three continents. Right, right. That's not supposed to exist. They're in highly advanced stonework. They're next to beautiful masonry that is of just amazement and in awe. We go to a place like Saska Aman. Have you ever been there? And you look at the pot, the huge pillow like stones. You've seen them on video, right?

[Danny Jones]

Oh, of course.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And you're like, how did they make that? Well, that's where we were last show. We're sitting there where we're trying to figure out all, what all these things mean. But we can at least say, well, it's part of a lost time period of human history. But that's all we had then. That's all. That's all we had to go by. Now this is. Let's go forward several months. I'm in my northern, northern Great Lakes cabin on a lake in the middle of nowhere and snowing outside.

[Danny Jones]

Blizzard.

[Matthew Lacroix]

In a blizzard. Yeah. And it is. It's November. And I am looking at the snow, looking outside. It's. And I'm just kind of, you know, enjoying my day. That picture is sitting in my living room. I bought that photograph. Are you ready for to go down a wild journey here, Danny?

[Danny Jones]

Let's do it, bro.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I bought that picture eight years ago at a yard sale for like four bucks. Okay. It was nothing's. Nothing special. It's a generic image that looks like the Sphinx. I had it. You look at videos, it's funny, right? You go to my YouTube, you go back like 5, 6, 7, 8 years, you'll see this picture behind me all the time, just sitting there. I've looked at it hundreds of times. It's so funny how things work in life and how there seems to be this hidden hand that we don't understand. I'll just say that the chances of this are nearly an impossibility. I'm standing there and I had this really bizarre moment. Really weird. This voice comes in and I'm not crazy. It says, look at the picture. And I was. I actually initially was like, I've looked at that picture enough times. And I sat down on the couch, totally disregarded it. Same thing happened again. Said, look at the picture. And again, it's like this direct thing was really strange, but I know I'm no mystery to the metaphysical realms of reality. So I was like, okay. I got up and I looked at it. Literally looked at this thing hundreds of times. I was like. It was like, really? That was my. That was. My feeling was like, really? I look at it. And I was like, wait a minute. And it was like something formed in front of me that I'd never seen. And it's really strange how that works. There's this psychological term called the invisible gorilla, where if you are not looking for something, you won't see it. And that's the idea, is that there can be a giant gorilla sitting in a room.

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And you won't even see it because you're not looking for it. Well, that very same thing happened here. So I am looking at this picture and I'm like, you got to be kidding me. Is that an inverted three level step pyramid with the right side broken off on the Giza Plateau. So before I got too excited because it could just be a coincidence or whatever it is, I start trying to go find other pictures. Like, of course there's got to be like a ton of pictures of this everywhere on the Internet, right?

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Giza Plateau, most visited archeological area in the world. Right. It's most studied archaeological area on earth. Can't find a single image anywhere on the Internet. Including images. Reverse searches with AI Anything.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Nothing interesting. Whoa. What is going on here? Do a little research, find out. It's in one of the only off limits private areas on the entire Giza Plateau. This picture, it's called this where it was taken, Right. It's called the Sphinx temple. And so. Meaning that if you, Danny Jones goes on a trip to Egypt, you can't

[Danny Jones]

get in here to where this photo was taken.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's gagged at large gates in front of the entrances. Okay. You can only get in if you have private access. So you have to actually like apply for permits or have a guide that has access to it that has permission. So we are getting permission to film here. And I'll get to that as we go. But so the first thing I do is I'm like, I'm realizing. So this is a really rare picture.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Where this is taken. And then I contacted Dr. Robert Schock.

[Danny Jones]

Why would they make this off limits to the public?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Good question. It's the only thing off limits because the nearby Valley Temple that's associated with it is not off limits.

[Danny Jones]

So they don't. What is their. Do they have a public excuse that's known.

[Matthew Lacroix]

They don't say anything.

[Danny Jones]

They don't say anything.

[Matthew Lacroix]

No. And so isn't it interesting that the, the Rosetta stone that may have unlocked everything is in the one off limits private area in the Giza Plateau. Coincidence, Danny.

[Danny Jones]

So, so what did you do? Did you try it in there?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, the story is just beginning. Okay, so I. That's not enough to prove anything, right? No, I mean, So I contacted Dr. Robert Schoch, who's one of the. Who is the expert, who has studied the Sphinx temple more than anyone else pretty much in history. And he's been there with another Egyptologist named Mohammed Ibrahim numerous times. And much respect to those, to those two gentlemen, but the same principle is the invisible gorilla. If you're not looking for something, you don't see it.

[Danny Jones]

Right?

[Matthew Lacroix]

They didn't see it. Nobody saw it. It's. It's. I don't know if you could see it, it's weird to say that, but I don't know how I never saw it either. I guess that is what I'm trying to say.

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So I'm thinking to myself, okay, that's cool, but I need a lot more evidence than that before I can prove that's an inverted.

[Danny Jones]

It just looks like. I mean, you could say it's an inverted step pyramid or you could say it'.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Exactly. It's not nearly enough to prove anything exactly. But it's what's called a cipher stone, meaning that it's pointing to something much larger and that's where all this unlocked. So I said to myself, okay, Danny, I was like, I pulled up the temple layout for the Sphinx temple and the Valley temple and I almost had a heart attack there. Embedded in the entire design of the temple itself was the same three level step pyramid, both above and below and the T's inside.

[Danny Jones]

So the one on the right is.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's a sphinx temple. And then on the left is a gigantic T in the Valley temple. Do you see that?

[Danny Jones]

Yep.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So the symbols that have been falling around the world, the T, the step pyramid, both inverted and non inverted because they combine to create both. Right. And then the other symbol, which is the three doors, which isn't in this, but it's in the other ones.

[Danny Jones]

Are these visible from the air?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. So nobody's ever looked at that. There's no photo. Apparently nobody's ever looked at the temple site layouts and noticed this. So.

[Danny Jones]

But can we find images of this on like Google Earth and see.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Just know. But it's again, it's the invisible gorilla. If you're not looking for why nobody's looking for a global code.

[Danny Jones]

I really want to see what this looks like from the air.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, so this is just beginning. Danny, buckle up. Okay. It's been a while.

[Danny Jones]

My seat belt is honestly ready to go right through the windshield.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Nova November on to now has been like the most exciting time of my life for these discoveries. So I call Dr. Robert Schock. Like, Robert, you've got to see this. And I sent him an email on all this, all this stuff. And I am anticipating getting some pushback because Robert is a top academic. He does not jump on board unless something is absolutely 100% okay. And I respect him for that deeply. Which is why I wanted. If anyone is going to give me the green light, Danny, it's going to be Robert because he's, you know, he's one of the top, he's one of the Most famous geologists in the world. He's arguably one of the most studied of ancient lost civilizations of anybody. So. And he's on my team, and we've gone all over the world filming. We have, you know, a great relationship. So I. There you go. They're right there. You can see them. You just. People didn't know what they're looking for.

[Danny Jones]

Can you zoom in?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Now, a lot of these are super eroded. So keep in mind, Danny, when they're making these original. When they're first going into these sites, long time ago.

[Danny Jones]

This is not straight down. This is at a slight angle.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yep. Yeah. But keep in mind, when they're making these temple layouts, they're doing them when they first find the temples. So the first protocol you do, Danny, when you find an ancient site, you have to map it out, meaning that you have to design what the temple layout looks like. And so these all come from the original archaeologists that mapped out what the temple layouts looks like. Steve.

[Danny Jones]

So you can find a better image. I would just go to Google Images and type in aerial photo of the Sphinx temple.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Get a drone shot that's gonna be better off for you. Yeah. So you'll find something. We're gonna be doing drone shots of that. So I. I email him this Dr. Robert Schock, and he's been all over the world to see these symbols. He knows what we're looking for. Right. But he's skeptical, which he should be. He's a scientist. And I was expecting pushback. Instead, I get an email that says, by the way, Matt, can you put that back up really quick? He says, by the way, Matt, I was looking in the second pyramid mortuary temple, and I found that it looks like the same symbols are repeating there too. So the second pyramid, the Khafre pyramid. It's Khafre's pyramid, which is the middle pyramid. He's not really the one who built it. Yeah, the second pyramid. Imagine now the code is now including the great pyramids of Giza. So the first thing he identified is that on the right side is Khafre's mortuary temple. Now, you can see in the center of the T's in the layout up in the square, and then the step pyramid is in the circle. Right. Now, the first thing I did immediately is I run.

[Danny Jones]

Where did you get really diagrams?

[Matthew Lacroix]

You can just get them online. They're easy. And this is part of what I'm terming is called citizen archaeology. I'm starting a movement because people are finding this stuff now, so this diagram

[Danny Jones]

on the right, this is accepted that this is what it looks like inside the coffee period.

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, these are the official. The diagrams. I'm not using some like, fringe diagram that, like, no one accepts.

[Danny Jones]

Wow.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Everything that I'm using are official archeological, like the temple layout designs.

[Danny Jones]

Okay. I've just never seen it before.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, no, because nobody's looking at temple layouts. So the first thing I do is go to Khufu, the great Pyramid. Same thing, same thing embedded in that. And then I go to Mankur's pyramid in the mortuary temple. Remember, these are the mortuary temples are basically like leading into the pyramids. Same thing. All three of the great pyramids, same code embedded in them.

[Danny Jones]

God damn. The one on the left looks like a. Like a computer chip or something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, that's the idea is a lot of people have come back and you can actually see T's up in that. Look in the top left, if you look at the negative space, there's T's. It's all over the place if you know what you're looking for. And a lot of people have commented, Danny, and said what you just said is this is some kind of an organic computer, like a circuit board. Yes. And there may be a lot of truth to that because this may be a type of technology. Okay. So I am trying to figure out what's going on here. I am like, wow, but what do we do now? Okay, what's one thing to have? We have the temple layouts, we have all these designs, but what now? Well, talking to Robert Schoch and he said this profound thing to me, he says it's one thing to argue symbols and stones all around the world. And you could, archeologists could, could say maybe it's a coincidence. It's another thing to have those same symbols embedded into the entire temple layouts. You can't argue those.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

You can't argue temple layouts. Okay, now before I tell you what they all mean, I want to show you a couple more examples, okay. Because it's important that people see this all. That's a good. That's a good one. Yeah, you can see it on the right. I mean, a lot of this is super.

[Danny Jones]

On the right you can see the steps.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, yeah, it's super eroded, but you can still see it.

[Danny Jones]

It is super eroded. Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay, so just bear with me here, Danny. What we're going to do is we're going to go through and I want to show you these all over the world. First, I don't Want to tell you what they mean yet. I know some people in the audience might be mad, but again, if you. I want everyone to see how prolific this is once you start looking for it and identifying it. It is the signature of this civilization, if you can find it. It's only found in older structures, super advanced stonework, and it's their signature. And we're going to get into what it all means. But it is incredible. It's there. It's truly what, like what Graham Hancock said in his first book, it is the fingerprints of this lost civilization. So the first thing I do is I'm trying to go find other temple layouts, see if I can find anywhere else, Right? And this is where I told you the whole citizen archeology thing started because other people started finding stuff too based on this and telling me, wow. And so there's a movement that's emerging right now where anybody that knows what they're looking for, that's going to find these site temple layouts is finding this code. It's exciting. Now you ready? Temple of Horus in Egypt. We're not even on the Giza Plateau anymore. We're down hundreds of miles away. And check this out. You ready? On the right is the Sphinx and Valley temple designs. Now take a look. The Temple of Horus, you have T's and every single entryway that gets smaller and smaller. That's very key to understand. It's what's called fractal geometry. Fractal geometry means something smaller that gets bigger or the reverse. Now, the same thing is true with the other symbols. If you look at the combination of the T, the step pyramid, it's just repeating everywhere, all over the place. And I want to really emphasize it's important to understand they're now combining the T and the inverted pyramid together as a single symbol in some of these. And you're going to see that a lot more, especially in South America as we go forward. Now, in the center of the star, right, it says sanctuary. That design is nearly identical to what we call Susi temples in Turkey, in Ionis, at that design. So you're seeing the same motifs, the same architectural designs, the same knowledge embedded into these sites. But I'm just beginning, my friend, K Pop Demon Hunters, Haja Boy's Breakfast Meal and Hunt Trick's Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share. No, it's our honor. It is our larger honor. No, really stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side and participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

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[Matthew Lacroix]

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[Matthew Lacroix]

Let's keep going. Here we have our Tiwanaku, Bolivia. There you have the door. Now this is all three symbols in one. You ready? They were brilliant. They said, okay, let's take the three most important symbols that represent the highest level knowledge we have, and let's not only embed them all around the world, but here in Tiwanaku, let's put them all together as one. Take a look. You have the door, you have the T and the inverted step pyramid in one single symbol, right? Okay, so that's an andesite stone. And I am so proud of my team for this. This is Dr. Robert Schock and Hans Orheim. Hans Orheim is an archeologist. They both found this one. As I'm saying, this isn't just me. This is others that are involved in both my team and citizen archeology people that are finding this now. And it's turning into a movement. It's like a revolution of ancient history. This is Wild at Tiwanaku. It's the entire temple layout design is the same symbol in the stone. Now this is what I call a home run. What I mean by that is this. There's a symbol we're looking for. You find it in a stone. Great, that's one. What you get for a home run though, is when that exact same symbol is then also in the temple layout itself. Now the quote that Robert Schoch said about you can't argue temple layouts, you can't say that's a coincidence anymore. Once the same symbols are embedded into the entire temple layouts, which is what, what the Sphinx and Valley Temple was, Remember, you then have a problem. You then have something highly sophisticated, highly organized that's being shared all around the World. Okay. And this is just. I have a lot more examples. How about Kailasa, India?

[Danny Jones]

Oh, this one is like the most insane thing.

[Matthew Lacroix]

This is incredible. I mean, this is one of my favorite examples of all of them in the world. Kailasa, for those. Well, let's talk about Kailasa for a minute.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Kailasa is considered the largest monolithic temple carved out of a single rock in the world. Meaning that this mountain, which is, by the way, is basalt, very similar to the stone we see everywhere else.

[Danny Jones]

It's all negative relief, even the whole thing.

[Matthew Lacroix]

They carved the entire mountain into one single temple. Okay. It's one of the most advanced ancient sites in the world, arguably hands down. Now, they say they know who built it, theoretically, but if you go look at the story, they don't really know who built it and they don't really know when it was built because a lot of cultures have come later. Same thing in India. A lot of cultures have come later and adopted these sites. Okay. Now, when I found this, it was like a heart attack. It was like a heart attack. Nobody's looking at temple layouts. That's what's happening right now. So let me give an example of what this is. In the very center of the entire temple, literally the focus of the temple itself. You see that? In the very heart of the temple is the exact same design as Tiwanaku. And I mean exact. I mean, look at that. That. Danny, isn't that incredible? And I showed the temple layout above, and not only that, but the three stairs that lead to it are exactly three. I say three because three is the number that repeats over and over again. And then you add three and three and you get six. Then you add again, you get nine, which we know Nikola Tesla and others have talked about the mystery number of the universe being 3, 6, and 9. Right? Everything is encoded in that here.

[Danny Jones]

I didn't know that's what he said, the mystery.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, it's one of those things where some people are going to call. Are going to call me out on that quote. His official quote is that if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, it's through energy, vibration, frequency. But the quote about 3, 6, and 9, many, many people that have delved into his work believe he said that as well, because all his work talks about 3, 6, and 9.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

You see what I mean? So even though they can't 100% prove he said it, pretty much everybody knows he did say that.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. So there's a code embedded, Danny. It's all over the world. But it's in only these older advanced structures. And so when I saw all these, I'm linking it now back to the very beginning. Here we are at the very core of where we started. And this is a very important slide. It's what we call the proto origin of these symbols. So when you have symbols, over time they become more advanced like anything, right? So if you, Danny built a car, what's going to happen in that car after like 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, it's going to become way more modified, right? Get better and more sophisticated. Exactly the same thing as these. These are what you're looking at are the proto origins of where this civilization, I believe began. And where is it? Lake Vaughan in eastern Turkey. Precisely with the stories of Zaya Sudra, where he ended start. You see that? And so I want to go through this and just explain it really quick. That Susi temple design that I showed, that was in the temple of Horus and other places, but also look, if you look very carefully, it's hard to notice, but the three level step pyramids are also in the entrance. And then two T's that differ based on their sizes. And that's the fractal geometry. And then on the right is Shavuz Tepe, which is a site right next to Ionis. And as you can see, the T's then become giant monoliths. They actually create versions of them into monoliths, right? And then above to the top right is of course what's called the Keph Ba relief. And it came from another site right next to Ionis. And that's where you get all the rest of the symbols. So if you combine them all together, you get something incredible, you get a code. And that's why I called this the blueprint. The blueprint of lost civilization. It's their code. And I want to. I want to go over what all this means and how I found it and how all this unfolded. I'm sitting there trying to understand this. How could these civilization. Why would they encode these advanced symbols into everything? What are they doing? Why are they encoded T's and step pyramids and doorways? What is going on here? Right? This is what broke all of this open. I was studying ancient hermetic geometric designs. Hermeticism is an ancient secret society type of knowledge that existed teachings long ago. And we'll get into more about that soon. And I found a word that unlocked everything. If that photograph was the catalyst to point it to me, this was the word itself, was it unlocked every single meaning for it.

[Danny Jones]

Cosmogram.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It was a word that has become nearly extinct in our world today. Very few people on Earth even spoke it any longer. It was used in only fringe papers. And anyone who wants to look it up and go, please do.

[Danny Jones]

Cosmogram.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Cosmogram itself is a word that I write in the book, the Missing Key. The word itself was on the very edge of oblivion. It was about to die. And if we lost this word, we may never have ever understood what these things are.

[Danny Jones]

Google says a cosmogram is a diagram, map, or symbol representing a specific cultural, religious, or scientific worldview of the universe. Organization.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. So what they're doing is they're encoding the structure. Remember this, Danny? They're encoding. Yeah, go back to mine. They're encoding the structure of the universe into their temples. Okay? So I. When I found this, and I said, oh, my God, how could they have known the structure of the universe as above, so below? Well, that's hermeticism. And we'll get to that. That's. Where that comes from is hermeticism. Okay? So once I found this, everything unraveled, everything. It was. It was like a freight train once this happened, because it filled every single other thing in. They're all cosmograms. All of them are. Every single one of these symbols are cosmograms. Okay? And we'll get into what. What they all mean and how they're all related to this and how it all connects. So what they. What they understood was that. And let me tell you how I found it, though, is that in Egypt, they preserve their understandings of how they. What the. How the. The structure of the universe, the ancient Egyptians did a really good job with preserving that. And even though they may have been very bad with certain things, I'm talking about the dynastic Egyptians, Khufu, Khafre. I'm not talking about the people who built these structures originally.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. The dynastic Egyptians did a lot of bad stuff. Right? They recarved the Sphinx to be a pharaoh. We'll get into that. They did a lot of bad stuff, but the best thing they ever did.

[Danny Jones]

Those naughty Egyptians.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Those naughty Egyptians. The best thing they ever did was that they really did a great job carrying down traditions. Very, very happy they did that because I was able to just go into ancient Egyptian understanding through the Book of the Dead and others. Well, what are the three structures of reality? What are they? Well, they understood that the universe was made up of only three pieces, and it's not quite as hard to understand as we think it is. They understood it as physical reality, like what we see around us, and two metaphysical realms of reality that support the manifestation of physical reality. The first realm is the celestial realm. Totally metaphysical, non physical. Nothing's physical in these realms. Okay. You can't. It's not space. You don't fly into the celestial realms. I want to be really clear on that because a lot of people confuse that. They think, oh, like the stars above our. I'm not talking about that. We're talking about realms of reality outside of our existence. Things we can only peer into through some kind of psychedelics or meditation practices or shamanic journeys. Okay, you see what I'm getting at? Right? So they understood that non physical. Yeah, they understood the universe was only three pieces. So physical, celestial, and the underworld, or what the Egyptians called the duat.

[Danny Jones]

Wouldn't the underworld be similar to the celestial world?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, they mirror each other. There's no separation between them. And we're going to get into the whole model.

[Danny Jones]

It's like heaven and hell, basically.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But it's not really hell.

[Danny Jones]

Sure. It's just a.

[Matthew Lacroix]

In fact, the path of ascension seems to have as much importance, if not more, of going through, going through down first before you go through up. And we'll. Again, we'll show that in a minute. So, yeah, which is why it's really interesting how monotheistic religions literally blocked off what may be part of the path of ascension. They did what literally may have blocked off part of the path of ascension of human humanity by doing that. Because the underworld is not what we think it is. It's where souls incarnate. It's where souls are judged. All these different things happen. It's also where life is. So hold on with me there for a minute. Okay, so they understood all this stuff, and then unfortunately, they all were destroyed. They all were destroyed because they were falling cycles and they understood how to map the heavens and they knew that everything followed cycles in the universe. So we're going to get into what all of those meanings mean in a second. But we got to start with dating, because everyone always yells at me on dating and says, what about the dating? How old is this? How can you prove it's dating? So we're gonna pause on what all the cosmogram stuff is for a moment. Let's pause for a minute and let's do dating. Because the dating has a lot to do with that. Because we have to understand when this civilization even existed before you can appreciate what they left Behind. Okay. And so how do we date all this? Well, you can't date stone. So what do you do? Well, you can do some organic dating at Gobekli Tepe. Remember, they did. They found some organic matter, and they already have the dating of that double the age of civilization. But that wasn't really enough to crack anything, was it? Academics didn't find that compelling enough. So what do we do? Where do we go from here? Well, once we're able to separate out disasters in Earth's history, we can then try to match them up with stories and tablets that discuss those events. Right. And there's actually a lot more correlation than some people might know in those stories. Like, for instance, how about the story of Zaya Sudra? What are we told about that? Well, it's a huge flood, just a flood. Unlike other disaster stories talked about with Atlantis and Plato and all those things. The one that Sayasudra is talking about didn't have fire or anything. The other ones did, but the one that they're talking about was just a flood. So the first thing to separate is that I do not believe that that event is the same as the Younger Dryas at all. So. Meaning that when we talk about these catastrophes in history, most experts are gonna lump them all into this younger Dryas 12, 13,000 period. What I'm saying is that that's not the first event. That's simply the last one. That's the one that wiped everyone out, the most recent. That's the one that destroyed the entire global culture. That's the one that wiped them out. That's the one that made them encode all this into their structures because they knew they were all going to die. How poetic. And sad. They knew it because they tracked cycles and they understood that cycles that follow these, these alignments, the influence of the sun, other things. And there's these catastrophic things that can happen to Earth that we have never experienced in modern human history. Not even close.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so how do we try to date this? Well, there's a very interesting study that came out over the last 10 years with these Kuri trees in New Zealand. So you see these trees up here, they find these giant extinct trees in New Zealand that have fallen into these pits and have been preserved because it's when they died. So they were able to take the tree rings and they were able to extract out the data from the tree rings and find out that 41,500 years ago was a devastating, devastating flood on Earth. At the same time, they find these lava Fields in France called the La Champ lava fields. And these lava fields happen to have this really unique kind of bubbling lava that they can take the air pockets inside the lava and get a snapshot of what the Earth's climate was like. So they're combining that with trees. Yeah, they're taking these things. This is not me.

[Danny Jones]

What about ice cores? Can they do that with ice cores?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, ice cores too. So all three. So tree rings, you can go back

[Danny Jones]

that far with ice cores?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. Antarctica ice cores. You can. Not Greenland. Okay, so they're taking tree rings, they're taking those lava fields, they're taking these different events. And they're not saying lost civilization was destroyed then. They're saying this is the last confirmed geomagnetic excursion in Earth's history. So I don't think, I think I killed that slide out of here. Yeah. So what, what does that mean, geomagnetic excursion? What is that?

[Danny Jones]

Just because there was a flood, they think there was a geomagnetic excursion?

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, no, they're not saying a flood. I'm. Scientists aren't saying there was a flood. They're saying there was a geomagnetic excursion. But when there's a geomagnetic excursion, there's a massive flood.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

See what I'm saying?

[Danny Jones]

Sure.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Why? Because what happens is.

[Danny Jones]

And what was in the bubble. Sorry to interrupt. What was in the bubbles in the lava?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Snapshots of the climate so they could match up with the quarry trees and ice cores to pinpoint that 41,500 years ago, some absolutely horrible catastrophe, something was, was going wrong very badly. Right. So what they've determined is that for a 700 year period then the magnetic north wobbled all over like it's kind of doing now, but in an extreme way, it shifted so much that it caused the entire axis of the Earth to tilt and bulge a huge amount of water on one side of the planet.

[Danny Jones]

Who's saying this?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Scientists. This is not for me at all.

[Danny Jones]

In a separate lane.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So all you have to do is go look up what's called the Adams event, or the last Shop event, the last geometic excursion, and just go read about it. They don't think humans existed at this point, remember.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So they're not going to reference anything like that.

[Danny Jones]

Okay. So. So what they're finding in the lava bubbles, the ice cores and the tree rings is that something crazy happened which confirmed the hypothesis of the. I don't know what you would call the people who try to determine there was a geomagnetic event.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Scientists.

[Danny Jones]

40,000. What type of scientist that would be?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I. It would.

[Danny Jones]

That would be probably a. Maybe a geologist. Maybe that would be a geologist.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. And a few other things, too.

[Danny Jones]

So. So there's already a theory with those folks that there was some sort of a geomagnetic event, not a theory established.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So if you. You can go look it up right now if you want, just to show him so he feels better.

[Danny Jones]

I'm just trying to understand it, that's all.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So, last shop event. If you just go type it up on Google, Okay. It'll say the last time that scientists have confirmed a geomagnetic.

[Danny Jones]

The atoms event.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

Polar drift caused climate change 43, 000 years ago. Earth's magnetic field is one of the most mysterious forces that shaped life on our planet. It's likely powered by solidification of Earth's iron core and appeared more than 33 billion years ago. Blah, blah, blah. Where's it? Where's the. Get to the point. For some 42, 000 years ago, Earth went through several centuries of dramatic climate change. Okay. And environmental chaos. The weather patterns went wild and shifted violently, with cold snaps commonly spreading from the Arctic to North America. And the ozone layer was likely destroyed. And electrical storms created auroras even in the tropics. Netherlands Neanderthals and some impressive representatives of megafauna went extinct. Strangely, amidst all the destruction, there was a boom of surviving Homo sapien cave art. Whoa.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

What is a geo.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay, so geomagnetic excursion means. That means that the magnetic poles move.

[Danny Jones]

That's crazy. They could know that. They.

[Matthew Lacroix]

They could know from the record, from the tree rings and from the. The. The lava fields and from the. The ice cores.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah. What I'm saying, though, is just because it was chaos, like, how do they know it wasn't from something else? Like wasn't from comets or wasn't from super volcanoes or.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's because. Well, they're not saying what caused it.

[Danny Jones]

Right?

[Matthew Lacroix]

They're saying what happened. They're saying that the magnetic poles moved significantly to where it created chaos all over the Earth, killing all these quarry trees.

[Danny Jones]

I understand what you're saying. I. I understand that they can. They. They're using the chaos as the proxy to figure out something went wrong. But how are they using that? How does all of that equal poles shifting?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Because they know that those effects can only happen. You're looking at this backwards. The magnetic poles are what determine everything. Everything physical in our reality comes out of an energetic reaction. Do you understand what that means? The Earth is a giant toroidal field of energy. So it goes like this. The energy comes out of Antarctica.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, I know.

[Matthew Lacroix]

You're like. It comes out and goes through the. Through the North Pole, and it's an energy flow and there's magnetic north and South Poles. Right. They're saying that this is the most significant excursion of that they've seen, bar none, in the last 42,000 years. And so what I'm saying is that when you then put this into the mix and you identify the older and younger Dryas events, but you separate them from the last shamp event, you then get a working timeline. You then start to get where you can piece some of these events together. Because we know that the Saya Sutra event was not the same event as described by Plato. They're not even. They're not even close to the same event described. Right. But what is. What is Solon told in Egypt? Remember, he says he. So for those who don't know, Solon goes down to Egypt. He's the first westerner to be in ancient Egypt at the time. He meets with two priests in Egypt at the Temple of Neath and says, okay, one of them is named Sanchez and the other one is named Sanofis of Heliopolis. Most people don't know that. So both of these individuals, they tell him this ancient history long before even the records that he knows about existed, in which they say, you Greeks remember one deluge, but there have been many, mostly of water and fire, remember? So why would we think there's one event then? Right? So that's why I've been able to separate out the Zayasudra flood, the beginning with the younger and older Dryas as being the end. And then we can start piecing together a timeline. Then we can start putting this all together. Because that's not the only evidence we have to line these things up. I'm giving you the catastrophe evidence first as we start working through this.

[Danny Jones]

Oh, interesting. Steve just answered my question. When lava cools and sediment settles, these. The minerals align with the magnetic field. Okay, that makes sense.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That that lava field.

[Danny Jones]

I did a poor job of asking my question, so sorry.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That lava field just happened to be the best representation of that, of any of in. And that's why they used it. Okay, so here is a graph that most people don't know about. This is. These are Greenland ice cores, not Antarctica, because they only. Greenland only goes back 20,000 years because the Greenland ice cap is only 20,000 years old. So take a look at this. Look at where we are on the right side, they're talking about climate change, talking about how we're so warm and blah, blah, blah. No, we're not. No, we're not. And if anything, you look at disruptions over the last 10,000 years and they're minor. When you agree.

[Danny Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Now look at 11, 600 years ago to about 14, 500 years ago. Insane. Like freezing. We're talking about.

[Danny Jones]

That was your backyard a couple months ago.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Basically. Basically, yeah. But also warming temperatures too. It's not just cooling. Look at the warming on the front side. 14,500 years ago. That's why you get. But that's why Edward Toll found weird, weird alder trees growing up and they were frozen with frozen green leaves up in Siberia because of that event. Now that's the climatic way we can start creating our timeline. If you create a timeline, you have to have as much moving pieces of evidence possible to try to do that. That's just the beginning. So that's our climatic timeline. Now that climatic timeline fits very well with tablets, though, and very well with stories of two primary events. Right. Two, two events that basically were enough to destroy that entire chapter of our, of our history.

[Danny Jones]

The younger Dryas was 11, 500, something like that. I'll go back 12,000 years ago. Between 11 and 12,000 years ago, basically. And what do you call the other event?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, the.

[Danny Jones]

What was the 40 year, 40,000 year event called?

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's either the Last chump or Adams event has two names.

[Danny Jones]

Adam's event.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. So the Adams event was 41,500 to 42,000 years ago.

[Danny Jones]

To 42,000 years.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. Look at that gap.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah. What's the.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Which is why I'm about. Which is what I was going to get to is that I believe that this civilization existed for over 20,000 years, which is why they were able to master everything they were. Wow. Okay, so let's get into the dating to prove this though.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Take a look at these angles. Not everybody sees these angles of the Sphinx. There's a lot of really clever angles that don't really show you the truth of it. And this does.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

If you're a civilization creating a structure like this, and if anybody doesn't know, the Sphinx is a solid piece of bedrock similar to Kailasa, where they just cut out the rock around it and then just forms it in the middle. Right. It's not stones stacked together, it's a single piece of bedrock cut out.

[Danny Jones]

Why do the paws look so perfect? And the upper part, that's what we're,

[Matthew Lacroix]

that's what we're going to talk about.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so around the enclosure is what is called the Sphinx enclosure. That's where Dr. Robert Schoch went in the 90s to show the water erosion.

[Danny Jones]

Okay. Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So the first thing you notice is that if you were an ancient civilization creating a structure like that, why would you make the head so small? Right. It looks, it doesn't make any sense. It looks silly, it looks ridiculous. That's because it was not a pharaoh, it was a lion. And we're going to get into the proof on how that was a lion. But I just wanted to show you the examples of how silly it looks from these angles because not everybody sees these angles when they're looking at the Sphinx and they really show you the disturbance and you just brought it up. Look at the erosion and how much of how affected the front body and the head have been compared to some other parts. Now, some other parts have been rebuilt a little bit. I do get that.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But look at the manipulation on the head especially. We're talking about something that was probably not quite double as big, but certainly quite a bit bigger than it is now. Now why do we know it's a lion? Well, the lion is a motif that is shared by this lost civilization all over the world. Everywhere they considered a lion an archetypal guardian. We're going to get into guardians Now. Guardians are what is shown as another on all of these sites. Guardians are playing this very big, big part because they understood that these realms of reality needed guardians to maintain them and balance them. And they considered Leo to be this celestial representation that also matched the most fierce basically predator we have here, a lion, the strongest. Right. So they used both as a means to create a type of guardian. Now top of that image, if you look at the kef bov, really, if I have a piece of it, he's standing on a lion. And what's interesting is that on Kailasa on the right, the lions are identical. I mean, not only is it a lion, but it has the same artwork on its legs and body and everything. Right. And yet these are in two, two completely different parts of the world.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so these aren't the only lions though. The lion is all over the ancient world and in, so in this civilization it's well accepted in most more studied higher level academics. For instance, Dr. Robert Schock, John Anthony west, it's a lion. They, they are convinced without a doubt that it is a lion.

[Danny Jones]

Doesn't the Sphinx face a specific Constellation.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, that's the. That's what we're gonna get into with dating. It faces Leo. That's the whole point of it being a lion. Yes. So once they determine it's a lion, because ancient Egypt was obsessed with lions. You saw it all over and the lion is. Then it's a. It's a architectural guard, architectural guardian all over the world. Once you understand that, you then can take what we just mapped out with the catastrophes and you can take celestial alignments and we can get some dating. We can finally understand when all these things were dated. Okay. Because. Because of this now I love this. And again, Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony west, the best examples of this. They would have this debate for years. And then. And then, you know, Jonathan west isn't with us anymore. And now Dr. Robert Schock and I have this debate state just like, like they used to have. And it. Is this the. Now that we can establish this, the Sphinx was a lion. I mean, that's pretty well established by most. Most.

[Danny Jones]

How cool it would have looked before they.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So much better than a pharaoh. Right? So this is the. This is the big thing. It only faces Leo during certain time periods in history because of what's called the procession of the equinox.

[Danny Jones]

Isn't it facing Leo now?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Not like. Not like this, no. So what it means is that the Earth spins on a slight kind of wobble. And the ancients understood that's how you track cycles. That's what they were tracking. That's what the zodiacs are. Okay. That's what. It's why we're going into the age of Aquarius. We're leaving Pisces. We're going into a new zodiacal age, which is why all this chaos is happening. Because in between ages is when this always happens. So John. Dr. Robert Schoch believes it's 12,000 years old. John Anthony west believes it's 38,000 years old. Because those are the only two dates that this, that the Sphinx can align with Leo.

[Danny Jones]

Really?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, Those are the only two because of the procession of the equinox. That means that the Earth is wobbling and it's facing different constellations for 2,100 years.

[Danny Jones]

It's every. How many years?

[Matthew Lacroix]

2,100 years is an age. It's quite. You put it all together and you get the Great year, which is 16. Yes, it's what you get. It was called this, the Great Year.

[Danny Jones]

I thought it was a different number. I thought it was like 242 or something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

2,100 years is an age. So it's like, it's right around 2,000 years. Just. Why? You see some of the interesting things with like the Roman Empire 2,000 years ago, with like the whole story with Jesus and everything, it's almost exactly 2,000 years ago. So these two dates, John Anthony west and Robert, go back and forth, back and forth. Right. Well, why did, why do they believe what they did? Well, Jonathan west did not believe that it would be possible for them to build these structures during 12,000 years ago. Why? Because it was the early. The end of the world.

[Danny Jones]

Hold on. I'm sorry, I can't. I'm, I'm losing my mind right now. Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta. I thought. I swear, I thought an age was 21 or 22.

[Matthew Lacroix]

21.

[Danny Jones]

Great year.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's the great year.

[Danny Jones]

257 to 26.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, I thought I could have sworn you said 2100.

[Matthew Lacroix]

2100 years. Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

No, this is saying 20, 25,000 years.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Daniel, you're in the great year. So you got to combine 12 zodiacs together to get that. Oh, that's the great.

[Danny Jones]

That's a single procession.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So it means that when this, when the Earth spins an entire procession, it takes 26,000 years. That makes sense.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, so 12, 2100 year cycles.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So they knew that. And they knew that when the Sphinx aligned with Leo, it had to be either 12,000 or 38,000 years ago because of the procession. Does that make sense?

[Danny Jones]

Yes, it makes perfect sense.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Now look back at this. How could they possibly have built the pyramids of Egypt during that 12,000 years ago was chaos on the Earth. Chaos. Right, right. Which is why then we go back a previous age, 38,000 years ago. Well, this is where it gets really interesting. What was the date on the last shump event?

[Danny Jones]

40 something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

41,500 years ago. If Egypt was built 38,000 years ago, then it means it would have given the builders after zaya Sudra nearly 3,000 years to reach it. So let's take into account for a minute, let's try to put these into a timeline. Yes, I. You heard what I said. I believe Zaya Sudra was over 42,000 years ago. That the original first cities on Earth? Well, yeah, was. Was 40. Was. Well, no, we don't even know how old they were. We only know when they were destroyed. So I can't tell you when they originally built. Maybe, maybe 45,000 years ago. I don't know though.

[Danny Jones]

Right, so, so what you're saying Is, I mean it's, it's. I don't think people claim. Anyone thinks that they would have been built during the Younger Dryas. No. Well, they claim the Younger Dryas is what ended the civilization that built it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, Dr. Roberts shock does believe that that was built then in the middle of the drive. He has his reasoning and I respect him as an, as an academic for that. Yes. Maybe that's also because as a top level academic, maybe it's a little easier to, to start with 12000 rather than 38.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay, baby steps. But remember that.

[Danny Jones]

No, well, maybe it was built like right before the catastrophe happened.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, the problem is you wouldn't build a pyramid. There is no Castrophy there. The Younger Dryas combines with the older Dryas. It's like a 2000 year period of disaster on the earth. So there is no like building it

[Danny Jones]

right before because then the younger and the older.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Because then you're not in 12,000 years ago anymore and it wouldn't have lined up. Do you see that? They do everything perfectly. They don't make any mistakes. The Great Pyramid is like a perfect half ratio of the Earth related to the earth sun and moon relationship.

[Danny Jones]

So in that period, in that, what is that? A thousand year roughly period.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, if you, if you add the older and the younger, it's even longer.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, but during, during that crazy climate drop right there, when it's, when it's, when it's chaos on Earth, during that period is when the Sphinx was aligned with leo.

[Matthew Lacroix]

You're saying 12000 years ago or before 12000 years?

[Danny Jones]

During the younger Dr. Oh, 12.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It was. But, but that was. But there's different, it's aligns during different ages. And so. No, I get 12 was one of them. One.

[Danny Jones]

It was the last time.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, got it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. So essentially what we're doing is we're taking climatic data, ancient tablets, all the stories we can from Solon and everything we have. Right. And we're then combining it with procession and with these alignments and that's how we're getting the dating. And so let me lay this out there.

[Danny Jones]

I completely understand what you're saying now.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. So I believe that, that Zaya Sudra's flood, the flood that destroyed Sharupak from the very beginning, was 41,500 years ago or 42,000 years. It was right in that window. And that. Think about how much time that would give him then. If Egypt is 38,000 years old and the same symbols and builders are involved it would give them 3,000 years to get there. That's plenty of time.

[Danny Jones]

Oh yeah, totally plenty.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I mean, look at what we've done in the last 700 years since horse and Buggy, right? So the timeline starts to match really well. You see that all of a sudden things truth falls into this perfect place because truth is truth. Once you find something that matches where it's supposed to, it's like, oh, that makes complete sense. Because how else would you then put this? Where else would you put it? We now can place each of these events during sequences of not only procession, but also climatic events that match destruction mentioned in the stories. All of it comes together to say, look, we have an over 20,000 year period of human history in which we became the greatest masters we've ever been. And then we were all destroyed. But before they were destroyed, they left all of their knowledge for us. All of it.

[Danny Jones]

And they knew they were going to

[Matthew Lacroix]

be destroyed and they knew they were all going to die.

[Danny Jones]

And the people that were leaving this knowledge, they were built. So you think the pyramids and the Sphinx were built post the Adams event?

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, no, no, no. All that. Okay, so let me lay this out there. This is definitely important. I'm glad you brought that up. Imagine there was a previous civilization age that existed on Earth. It was the Sumerians, and that's the only one. There may not have been any other Homo sapiens sapien civilizations anywhere. It may have just been like more Neanderthal hunter gatherers. Right. Let's say something started there, very special. Like, like it states just like the tablet says, says it does, where something very special emerges in that region with Eriduda Sharupa. Now that was the first beginnings of everything. But they were destroyed. Right, and so what, what happens? Well, you learn that Zaya Sutra landed up there and then there's this mystery. Well, Zaya Sutra was rewarded for maintaining all the knowledge of mankind. That's what it's told about in the tablets. So why would we not think that, that the golden age came out of that? The other reason we say that is that the tablets, before they break off and we never hear anything again, the last thing they say is that they reward Zaya Sudra and they give him immortality. And they also decide to basically like give humanity another chance. Okay, now so what does that mean? It means that I believe that the greatest golden age that ever existed in our history began, I'm not going to say 41,500 because they need some time after a disaster. Let's give them 500 years. Okay, let's just give them 500 years. Let's call it 40,000 to make it easy.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

40,000 years ago, the greatest golden age that's ever emerged, ever emerged in our history began. Began in Vaughan. Ionis, then spreads around the world, cultivates it's culminate. Cultivate itself to the greatest expression of that of all in Egypt. The largest versions of it, but the same symbols.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so Egypt is like the perfection of this. Of this global civilization there.

[Danny Jones]

Okay, now, so post Adam's event.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. So then they build it. They build it all 38,000 years ago, and then everything in between, we don't really know. I can't tell you when Tiwanaku is built. I can't tell you when some of these other places in other Egypt was built because we don't have the celestial alignments, but we can know that they're in that period somewhere. Okay. Somewhere in there right. Now, Posnansky, who is a great, great scientist, Posnansky, was the first one to study Tiwanaku and Puma Punku in Bolivia. And he, way before anybody else, believed that it was like 16,000 years old. So he was way ahead of the game back then. Okay, so what I'm. We're now catching up to where we were now. We just laid out timelines, right? Timelines and the code around the world. Now, let's break it down. What does it all mean? What is all this knowledge? If they left the greatest knowledge of the universe, what is it? Well, I think the greatest question we can have here that we need to ask ourselves is who were we, though? Because in order for us to understand where we're going, we have to first understand who we were once where we were, right where we been. So Chavez, Tepe, there's your three inserts going right in. Highly advanced stonework. Okay, now, where's this? That's Shabus Tepe around Ionis. That's the Vaughan region of Turkey.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Look at the stonework. Unbelievable, right? It's just incredible. That's the stonework of a lost civilization, for instance. What I mean by that is that the Eratian culture, who had to prop up underneath it because it was all broken. That's why there's limestone underneath it. Those stones, these types of stones all around the world were essentially very little manipulated ever again. I say little because they were slightly manipulated. And one of the things they did is that the Urartians carved cuneiform into these blocks to claim ownership for them. That's why? Archeologists believe that the Urartians built these sites because they tried to claim ownership. Well, look at what the dynastic Egyptians did. They recarved the whole head into a pharaoh. Talk about some confusion. So look, obviously I deeply revere ancient cultures, but some of them did bad stuff. We have to just accept the fact that some of them tried to pretend they built things they didn't, they tried to reshape things. They, you know, different things like that. Okay, so we have to wrap our heads around that mindset. Now let's get into the whole thing. These motifs around the world. The first thing is three doors. Now you're going to see this in some pretty wild places as we go forward, like da Vinci. We'll get into that as we go. But on the left is what's called Napa Inglesia. Now that is in Peru. And you see the same step pyramids which the Spanish blew up. The top there, there would have been a third level, but they put dynamite into a hole there and blew it up when they conquered this area. Which is really nice of them to do that.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, very nice.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I've been to this site multiple times and it is one of the most sacred, magical places I've ever been in my life. When you sit in that doorway, Danny, you feel something. Okay, this is an ancient technology and I'm going to get into that as we go along. But here's the motif we're spreading around the world. Now here is Tiwanaku. This is the famous gate of the sun. But it's the backside which most people don't even look at. Now these three doors, what do they mean? We were talking about the ancient Egyptian understandings Of what? The universe. The three aspects of the universe. The three aspects that's not just shared by Egypt, but basically the entire ancient world believed the exact same thing. They understood that they didn't look at the universe in these separate pieces. They looked at it all as part of a whole, as part of a singular thing. And they understood that the middle door is always the largest because physical reality is what matters most. Basically, it's like being in the moment in physical reality, in that the other two doors manifest physical reality. Now how do this understanding is very important because it then allows us to not only back engineer understandings, but even technologies. If we can crack their code, we can essentially rebuild their world. Now how do I know that these doors represent this? Well, from this two key pieces of evidence, again, back to the kef ball relief, everything is a fractal Microcosm, macrocosm relationship, meaning that they understood that the small has to mirror the large and that everything has to be a mirror of left and right, above and below. Like, you know, right. So when you look at this, imagine the tree in the center is the middle door, physical reality with the Tree of Life. Okay, now the tree of Life doesn't just represent a tree, it also represents consciousness. They understood that the ascension process of humanity is very much the same process of what's unfolding in the entire universe. They did not see humanity separate from the cosmos. And that's a really important thing that we're going to get into as we go along. So imagine these are the doors. And the way we figure out what the left door and the right door is, is based on this, but it's not just this. So for instance, the God on the left is Nergal, God in the underworld. And we know that not only, not only that, but ancient Egyptians understood that west is death and right is east for life, because the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. And they considered it like a relationship of death and life, like the sun rebirth every day. So that's how we know which of these doors represents which thing. So once I was able to do that, it was basically like back engineering the rest of it. All the rest of the things just unfolded like, like dominoes. It was beautiful, but I had to first get those understandings. Okay, now each of these gods, now the God on the left, archaeologists are going to go, wait a minute, Matt, that's Tesheba or Toshub, and go, sorry, it's misidentified. This is an underworld God, not a celestial God. That's why I've identified as being the counterpart, the equivalent of Nergal in the underworld. He's an underworld God God. Now if you imagine, Danny, can you have life without death? No. Right, because everything's balanced.

[Danny Jones]

Yep.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So everything is part of a delicate balance that exists. Meaning that Nergal's responsibilities as a God of death and war, his counterpoint, he always. They. They always have to have a balancer. So meaning in the underworld there is a negative God.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, I get it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But there's also a positive God. That's who Enki is. Now, the same thing is true above us. Do you know who the negative God above us is?

[Danny Jones]

The negative God above us.

[Matthew Lacroix]

The God who plays a negative role.

[Danny Jones]

Zeus.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, his name was Enlil. You got it. Zeus is his later name and his Greek name. So Zeus or Enlil, it Means Lord of the air. So his job, his role of responsibility. He was the one who determined to wipe out humanity, destroy everyone.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Because he's playing the negative role.

[Danny Jones]

Tried to save us.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And his. His counter in the Upper Celestials is Marduk. So there's just.

[Danny Jones]

They all Prometheus?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, it depends on how you want to label those. But they're all playing positive and negative roles. You see that?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Above and below. And then physical reality is manifested right in the center. So once you understand that, you then get to extrapolate all over the world. Meaning that every single thing had a relationship based on that understanding. Everything did. And the most beautiful thing to me about the realms of reality is these flowers. If it's. This would be considered. I would consider this the most beautiful connection. So in Vaughan, the three sites we just talked about. Right. So. Well, the underwater ruins is right there in the same area. Right. Dove down there last year for the documentary. So. So three sites. Top, right, Ionis. Bottom right is Keph. The one on the left is the underwater ruins. Now, the underwater ruins sits underwater way down below. Kef Kalesi, where that bov relief came from. Sits on a mountain right above it. And then Iona sits on a beautiful little peak to the right of it. Now, what is so fascinating is that every realm of reality. Has its own flower that represents it. So, for instance, we'll start on the bottom right. That flower on the bas relief. Do you see it? They're tetrahedrons that make a flower. Do you see that? Because it represents physical reality. Tetrahedrons represent manifestation of physical reality through sacred geometry.

[Danny Jones]

So how is that a tetrahedron?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Because you had to see the shadow effect. The shadow effect creates. Gives you the understanding on the bottom. Yeah. So each one of those tiny little triangles. Each one of those creates a tetrahedron based on the shadowing.

[Danny Jones]

I see how the shadows make it look like that. Okay, I see.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So they're tetrahedrons. Now, where it gets beautiful is that the symbol for the underworld was a circle. A circle. And I'll get into how I know that in a second. But look at the underwater ruins. It was always amazing to see the flower. And I touched this flower. Is that. It's not a regular flower, though. They're seeds. You see that? They're flower petals that are like seeds. Why? Because it's the underworld. And that's where they believe that all life originated from.

[Danny Jones]

The one next to it looks different.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, that's because it's not a flower. That's A spiral.

[Danny Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So both. I'm glad you pointed those out. So the symbol to the right is a counterclockwise spiral. And even though one on the left is broken, I already know what it is.

[Danny Jones]

Is.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's a clockwise spiral because they had to follow a blueprint. It's like an understanding of how everything had to be perfect symmetry and balanced based on their knowledge. And so why would you have a counterclockwise spiral and a clockwise spiral? Do you know, think about the universe. What does a galaxy look like?

[Danny Jones]

Spiral.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Exactly. They understood that the universe is. Is a living thing, it's God or source, and that it breathes in, it expands and it contracts. That's the nature of everything expanding and contracting. And that the universe itself followed those models. And so they're putting that in to show the balance and harmony and how everything basically works.

[Danny Jones]

Interesting.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So the last flower. It's really beautiful. What's the last realm? We did the Underworld. Which is the circle, right? Which is the circle. And we'll show those as we go. The last one is Ionis, because Ionis, the temple that's there, the holy temple, is a celestial temple. And what is it? A sunflower. So beautiful, isn't it? So poetic. Each flower represents its corresponding realm of reality. And not only that, but the underwater ruins forms a perfect circle. You see that structure? If you swim above it, it's a perfect circle all the way around. Amazing achievement in the ancient world to do that. So they're taking the symbol, you remember the giant teas of Shavuz Tepe and how there's teas in temples, but also within other things, it's the fractal relationship. So they're taking the idea that the circle, they're embedding as a. As a symbol and then designing the entire temple to be a two that represents it. So the underworld temple is a circle because it has to. Because it represents the fractal nature of what it is.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's beautiful. And so at Shabu's Tepe, you have giant teas. Why? Because they represent balance. And we're going to get. Are going to get into that.

[Danny Jones]

So let's take a quick pause. I gotta take a leak real quick. We'll be right back.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So we're gonna go over what all this means now.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

We're gonna go through the descriptions, some of the understandings, and also what it leads to, because it's. It's profound, where this goes. Okay. For people who think this is already incredible as it is, we still have a Lot more. That's gonna be even more mind blowing. So the T, right, the step pyramid, if it represents the structure of the universe, then the T represents the balance of all of it. Because if take it and you condense the symbols together, the stem of the T would represent the larger middle door. And then you'd get the left and right. See that? And so they understood that if you were trying to explain something, right, if you told me about what the structure of the universe was, that wouldn't really tell us what the purpose of everything we're doing, right? You'd have to be like, well, you understand the universe, but what are you, what are you trying to understand about it? You have to be like, well, we, what the importance of it is that we have to. The importance of the universe is finding balance. Meaning that everything in life doesn't matter what it is. Remember this to everyone listening. The ancients believed that the key to everything was balanced. Didn't matter what it was, balance within, balance without, balance in the world around us, how we live, how we, how we exist, everything is about balance. They were obsessed with this idea of balance. And so they encode these teas all over the world. And I mean, even, even things you wouldn't even notice are teas. Like for instance, I was just looking at the temple of Seti in Abydos. The T's that where you walk into the front, they're actually teas above. And people probably didn't even notice that there are te's the whole time.

[Danny Jones]

Can I ask you something?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah.

[Danny Jones]

So are you saying that this tea on both sides of it, it's. It's almost like an inverse of the two sides. So if you look below the top on each sides of the trunk of the tea, you're saying the left is the underworld and the right of it is the celestial world.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But the middle stem is the biggest. And that's where physical reality is manifested.

[Danny Jones]

And the medical, the, the middle is where physical reality is. Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's why there's teas all over the bas relief and why there's teas everywhere. Because it's one thing for them to encode the, the understanding of it. But to them, the goal be called the goal was that the teaching related around it was that once you understood the structure of it, the more important understanding was how it all worked and how balance was the key. See that?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So they, that was what they, they wanted us to understand. Because we don't understand any of this today, any of it. We don't live in balance with the Earth at all. We don't live balance with the universe. We don't even consider ourselves important in that way.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, it's.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's sad what we become.

[Danny Jones]

Do you see any connection between this and, like, binary code, like ones and zeros?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I think that you're looking at certain mathematical constants that are woven into this for sure. Now, I think that if we're gonna. If we're gonna have a. Some kind of a binary code, like, function like computers with ones and zeros.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I think for them it would be like, three, nine. So I think that's their code, which is why they embedded that into everything. All those circuit board type things you were saying in the temple layouts look like circuit boards.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's because that's their code is 3, 6, and 9. I think that once we can understand that, we can crack their technology too.

[Danny Jones]

Do you know Jeffrey Drum? Knew who he is?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I don't know him, but I know of him.

[Danny Jones]

Are you familiar with his work?

[Matthew Lacroix]

A little bit.

[Danny Jones]

How deep have you gone into it?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Only service level.

[Danny Jones]

It's insane. He basically thinks that all the pyramids were, like, chemical manufacturing, industrial chemical plants.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, we're going to get into some of the purposes of that in a second, so I'll give you my. My perspective on that.

[Danny Jones]

And you know, how everything looks like a circuit board on the outside of it. And like, what you were showing, he. He literally goes drills down into the types of stones that are used.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I will, too.

[Danny Jones]

And some are. Are heat conductive. Some of them are like. Are. Are conductive of, like, electricity and stuff like that. And he has this crazy elaborate theory that ties all the pyramids together with the Serapium and as well as other pyramids that are in South America and Central America that have very similar layouts that, like, all fit into his theory. It's pretty bonkers.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, let me. Let me lay mine out and see if that. See if that fits too, because it's probably pretty similar. I just. I don't think there was chemical plants.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But they are all related in this. Okay, so we'll get there. Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna definitely move there next. So. So once I had that understanding, this all of a sudden made sense. What I'm. My perspectives on this from studying it is I do believe this is one of the most important ancient artifacts that's ever existed because it provides all of those motifs and symbols together into a shared teaching. And what it's showing, that I believe based on uncovering the entire code of this is that. That you get the two lion guardians, right. Guarding the realms of reality. And then the eagle guardians above. So this. They understood that there were realm guardians needed for both. The eagle was always the celestial realm guardian. And then the lion was the realm guardian between the physical realms and the underworld. And so here you see them passing what we see all around the world. Which is like a pine cone. Right? Everywhere in the world. Well, I believe this is the first depiction.

[Danny Jones]

Some people say it's an artichoke.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's definitely a pine cone. Sacred geometry. So what it is, is it's seeds of the Tree of Life. So the tree of Life is in the center. They're basically pollinating and seeding the Tree of Life and the pine cone. Not only does it represent sacred geometry, but around the world, we see it's passing knowledge. But what knowledge. See, that was always understood with the handbag or bucket. Right. That they had. They're holding that, and they're passing the pine cone. But what we're looking at here, and I think it's without a doubt, is that's the first depiction of the pine cone ever, Ever, ever, ever depicted in that way. Where it's the origin of all of it. So if we were to imagine every other civilization that came after that built these pyramids and structures and encoded this. They're all basing it on this very origin moment when something very, very special happened after Zaya Sudra, in the Vaughan region, where there was the beginnings of a golden age. That was basically laid down there. And this bas relief contains every teaching you can imagine to understand their entire knowledge system with all the other things that we're combining. For instance, the Tree of the Life. The Tree of Life in the center is also a metaphor for consciousness. And they're talking. They're showing feeding. They have that. They have the circle above their head right in the middle door. You see that?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And then in their hand, they have not only a pine cone, but a chalice or a cup.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Which means they're passing a spirit, spiritual or religious doctrine. Then you go further, and you see that both of them are basically on either side of this balancing point between three pillars, three doors, see? Three trees. The same thing is repeated all over at three pyramids. See that? Three doorways. All of it is telling us one thing. Thing.

[Danny Jones]

What country is this in again?

[Matthew Lacroix]

This is Turkey. Eastern Turkey, around Vaughan. It's telling us one thing. They're passing us the knowledge of how to reach our highest states, to find Ascension. Because look at what happens above the middle pyramid. See that? Keep going up up there, Danny. The two eagles are guarding this flowering that has seven spokes at the top. There are seven colors in the visible eye spectrum. And there's also seven chakras, main chakras in the. In the human body. They're telling us that if we follow this knowledge to find balance, that we can literally find ascension. That's in there.

[Danny Jones]

Seven rays on, like the. On Apollo or something.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's that they're always about the same thing over and over again.

[Danny Jones]

It's a repeating motif, and it's like the. It's based off. The Statue of Liberty is based off that. There's seven. Seven rays on the crown.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yep. And so you can see that repeating all over the world. In fact, that symbol in the center of the eagles, it looks like a diamond with little swirls. You can see that built into architectural areas in the United States. You can go like old estates and see it in fences and stuff. I have pictures of it in fences. It's like we lost this knowledge and had no idea what it was anymore, but still encoded into all kinds of things. So that. I mean, there's a lot more. I can talk about this, but I don't want to spend too much time on this. There's a lot more to go over. So essentially, what you're looking at is a model of the three different aspects of reality. Do you see how the middle has three levels? Yeah, that's the three levels of reality. So they're telling us that they're not in the physical reality. Look, do you see how they're not in the physical one? Why? Because the upright pyramid is physical reality, and that sits where the arrow is at the top. They're not there. They're in the underworld. They're passing the knowledge of ascension from the underworld. Danny. Now imagine what would happen if the church blocked that. Now, this might sound kind of strange to people, but when you're going to ground, do you climb a ladder or do you sit on the ground to ground yourself with energy?

[Danny Jones]

Sit on the ground?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Where does a tree grow from the ground? Everything comes out of the ground. It is. Everything is a relationship to that. So even though you go into a cave, you're not in the underworld. It is a representation of. Of it. So, for instance, the earth, sun and moon are also another representation of this. It's three repeats itself over and over and over again. And we're gonna. We're gonna get into that as we go. Now check this out. This is Ionis. Okay. Now there's your realm guardians on the left and right. See how they're winged? All of them are winged because it's a celestial temple. That's why they all have wings. And so there's three different guardians that they understood. Good. There is the. The eagle guardian. And they always have lion bodies. That's how we know the sphinx is the lion, because every single body of these guardians is a lion. They just had different heads.

[Danny Jones]

Do you think this sphinx had wings on it at one point?

[Matthew Lacroix]

No. No, because it wasn't. It wasn't a temple to the celestial. So this is a celestial temple. That's why they have wings. And so you have Haldi guarding the physical reality as like a human. Human type of figure. And then you have. Above are the eagle head, the eagle guardian. And then below is a combination of the dragon and it's like a griffin. It's like a dragon lion.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. Now those three repeated everywhere at Ionis, that's what those guardians are all over the place. Now, there's a flame in the back. Okay. That has two spokes to it. I don't know if you can zoom in on. I'd have to. Like, right here. Okay, so how do I. I probably can't do that, can I? Nope, I can't do that. Okay, so right here is a symbol that repeats itself over and over again besides the amazing Knights Templar Cross.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

See this symbol over here and over and over again?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Took me a long time to figure out what this meant. And it wasn't until I cracked this actual code that it made all. It made perfect sense. Now, this is a. This is a celestial motif. One is a ray of the sun, but another one is a flame, a holy flame, a metaphysical flame, like religion teaches us. And what was so beautiful about this is that there's only one Susi temple left at Ionis. But we know there was a second one. The same pillars that surround it are there, but there's nothing there any longer. The altar that used to be in that other temple, the Eratians moved over to the edge of this one. They also took all the alabaster floors from the old one, and they moved it over to the outside of this and then built a castle on top. Archaeologists do not admit or acknowledge as a second Susi temple that used to exist, but I know there was, because the altar has only two symbols on it. Now, if I told you that the cosmogram was a big deal that broke this whole thing open, this might be even Bigger. This is probably the most significant thing I've ever discovered in my life. And I mean those temple layouts and the connections of lost civilizations is amazing. But this connects something on a whole nother level. This connects what humanity needs most. Not just our origins and who we are. But what about our connection to God? What about our connection to source? Who are we? What are we a part of? Well, the altar contains only two symbols repeating over and over again. And I'm going to show them in a second. It's a flame and a circle over and over and over again. The only two symbols and they're. And they have guardians around all of them. Now this temple only has the celestial symbols to it, has no underworld symbols to it.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Except for the altar. But because the same symbols repeat and they had the same pillar system. We know there was once an underworld temple that the Urartians dismantled. Now why they did that, I don't know. Maybe they thought it was evil. I don't know why they did. But they dismantled it and took everything out of it. Which means that there was once a specific type of Susi temple for the Celestial and a specific Susi temple for the underworld. How do you think Gilgamesh got to the underworld? Some kind of a realm gateway. Okay.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That's. Which is what we're about to get into. Okay. And we. And we even have the capability because we can put the blueprint back together because everything's a symmetry. We could actually rebuild this temple. It's a temple to the underworld.

[Danny Jones]

Now what is this a temple to right here that we were just looking at with the big white thing in the middle?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I'm showing you that there was two sushi temples. Okay. You're in the background, is the only one that's left still. It's the one on the right. It's the Celestial Susi temple.

[Danny Jones]

Got it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

What I'm showing is that there once was another one because of the altar. Now I'm going to show the altar. So this is where it gets into something so pivotal that you thought lost civilizations was a big deal. Proving them. This will reshape humanity. I mean that I anticipate. This creates an entire new world religion. No joke. I'm serious. Hermeticism. Hermeticism will become the new world religion because of this. Let me go over why. That's a huge bold statement. I know. Let me explain what I mean by that. On the altar, the two symbols that repeat over and over again are the flame in the circle, now this rod in the center is a pure gold rod. And it used to.

[Danny Jones]

Where is it? Where is the flame in the circle here?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Flame in the circles over and over again. This is basically. This is the same thing as this. This is drawn out by like a computer. So like. So like they took. You know how they're basically. If you're gonna go old school with like a piece of paper and a pencil, right? You put it over the top of that and you sketch out what it was. Okay.

[Danny Jones]

Now the flame is under that arrow. There's. There's. There's two flames.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes, yes. So here is the flame.

[Danny Jones]

Got it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Over and over again. And then here's the circle over and over again. You see that right here? Now each one of these are guardians. This is your underworld guardian. This is like your griffin. Okay. And then you get. And then. Well, you can't see all of it because it's broken. I only have a piece of it. But over here you can see them. Right. Here's your eagle headed God. Here's your enki haldi, physical reality guardian. And then here's your underworld guardian. Now.

[Danny Jones]

Got it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Each one of them is guarding only two things. There's nothing else that they're guarding over and over again. The flame in the circle. Flame in the circle. Three of them. See that as a candelabra. Now this rod right here is a pure gold rod. It's the only one that survived. And it also has the flame of the circle repeating. Do you see that?

[Danny Jones]

Yes, I do.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That those would slide into ions. Where was this rod? And so my theory is that these rods slid into the alter violence because there's these perfect holes that I've already determined would be the right ratio and size to slip these metal gold, these gold rods into gold. Some kind of technology.

[Danny Jones]

Do you have a picture of these holes?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, I can. It's not the best. I was hoping it would be a lot better.

[Danny Jones]

Ayannis.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So the altar itself was a giant T. And I'm sure that makes sense. You'd have to look at it from a different angle, but basically you can see from the top how it fits in like that. Now the holes on the bottom are perfect for each of those gold rods to slide into.

[Danny Jones]

How deep are those holes?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, they're, they're. They're at least the width is. Is correct for them to slide into. I don't know exactly how far back in they go.

[Danny Jones]

Okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So I have to admit that.

[Danny Jones]

But they don't look super deep. They look maybe a couple inches deep,

[Matthew Lacroix]

but they fit the perfect parameters of that, of that metal rod, of that gold rod, I should say, not metal. It's gold, pure gold. And that's important because gold, through ancient alchemy has always been considered very, very powerful and sacred and very important.

[Danny Jones]

Right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So anyway, we're gonna go back to where we were here. Hold on.

[Danny Jones]

How many of these gold rods are there?

[Matthew Lacroix]

The only one that survived. Okay, so they, the, the, the thinking is that the Urartians most likely use the other ones because they're gold. Here, let's get back to where we were now. Okay. Okay, so we're back. So that's the gold rod that would slide in each one of them. And of course it has the same symbols.

[Danny Jones]

You're hypothesizing that it would slide in there. You're just saying it's a similar size.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, there it has, there's no other, there's no other purpose for it because the holes exactly match the size of those. So I, I measured the outside dimension of the width of it. It fits exactly like it would fit just perfectly inside there. Okay, so I mean, yes, that is a theory I have. Right, right. But, but look at the top. You also have the, see the spirals up here, just like on the underwater ruins. Okay. So this is where I made a profound connection. And when I mean profound, I mean very, very significant to history. Because it's one thing to prove lost civilizations, it's another thing to prove like our relationship to God in the universe. And that's what this does. So imagine the most sacred temple of all of Ionis. Right, the most sacred temple. And the whole thing is focused around these only two symbols, all of it the most important two symbols of all. What are they? Well, that's where this came in. I have been a long study of mystery schools, hermeticism. And so we were talking a little about this off air a bit before we started.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

The reason I discovered this and that archaeologists and other academics and brilliant minds didn't, is that you had to be an initiate, a deep initiate of mystery schools, or you never would have known what any of these things mean.

[Danny Jones]

What's a mystery school?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Mystery schools are what used to exist for high level adepts of the greatest knowledge that, that of the startup. And you would imagine special schools existed way back in deep antiquity in which not everyone was necessarily a student, but people who were identified as being special or unique in that kind of way were brought in to these, these mystery schools to be taught the, the secrets of everything. Okay. The origins of all secret Societies and mystery schools came from this. That's. They're all fragmented versions of this. Now, the reason why most people don't know about mystery schools or hermeticism is because it has been severely demonized by the Church for centuries. And it is.

[Danny Jones]

Where does hermeticism come from?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Hermeticism comes from Hermes. Now, Hermes is the Greek God of knowledge. He's the equivalent of Thoth in Egypt. They're archetypal messengers. They're messengers of ages. They basically provide vast wisdom during a time when the stability of that age threatens the balance that exists. The messenger and the knowledge through messengers emerges, meaning that this knowledge will never be allowed to die.

[Danny Jones]

So what does hermeticism actually mean?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Her. We're gonna get into that in a second. Yeah, hold on. You're jumping ahead just a little bit too far here. We're gonna go all over hermeticism in a second. Hermeticism. Well, I guess I'll do it right now. So hermeticism is based on the oldest knowledge that exists, period. It's what we used to consider to be the truth of everything in reality. It's based on what's called natural law. So it's understanding how the universe functions, understanding how every relationship functions. As above, so below, as within. So without. That's based on an understanding of relationships, meaning that there is no separation between this and above. Everything's like a great stage or play, Right. Everything's all working together like an orchestra. All like music instruments are playing some beautiful, beautiful play that we're acting on. We're on the stage of this great play.

[Danny Jones]

Sure. Balance, nature, the universe, all of it. Physics.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah. And so hermeticism, what it was, was based on the oldest level of knowledge that existed for how everything functioned. And Hermes just happened to be the last of those archetypal messenger gods that existed before we sort of left that time period in that age. So he's exactly like Thoth. You see Thoth, the ibis, right, In Egypt, who is passing all the knowledge. It's the same thing. They're essentially. They're not. They may be a real person, but they're an archetype that emerges. That has to meaning that this knowledge is fundamental to the universe. It can't be lost. Do you know what I mean? It has to emerge every time the balance is disrupted, everywhere good and evil. Yeah. So I have been obsessed with this passage. So if you were to take hermeticism and think of it like a Bible, right? All the knowledge together, this is the most important piece of all of hermeticism. This right here. How do I know that? Because it's the core of the highest level knowledge. Now, this story comes from what's called the Hermetica that I have on my coffee table. Every day. I sit next to and read. And in this, Hermes, the great God, the great Greek God, he has a conversation with the great dragon who is poi mater, which is God of the universe. It's considered a dragon. For all those who are wondering, okay, where the dragon motif comes in. In he says, I wish to understand the nature of God or Father. The Father and the nature of man. Right. And God or Po Mander goes to basically states. Do you want to. You want to read it for us?

[Danny Jones]

No, no, you can do it.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Okay. It says, then Herm Hermes asked how the righteous and wise pass to God. To which point Mander replied, that which the word of God said, because the father of all things consists of life and light whereof man is made. If therefore, a man shall learn and understand the nature of life and light, then he shall pass into the eternity of life and light. Meaning basically the highest level knowledge possible of the nature of us, the nature of God and our relationship to God. That we are basically the same thing. Do you see that? Well, guess what? The two symbols repeating on the altar are over and over again. The flame and the circle. The circle and the flame, life and light. The only two symbols repeating everywhere on the rod, on the altar, everywhere. Meaning that hermeticism, this can prove that this is the origin of the oldest knowledge that ever existed. Now, wait till you see what happened to hermeticism as I go forward. So they encode this into the oldest structures ever built, and then hermeticism comes out of it later. So this is the origin, all that knowledge, right? On the kef ba relief, above, below, as within, without right symmetry. The doorways, all of it. And then they encode this as the core of all of it. So if you think those things were important, Ionis is in the center of all those things. And its core focus, the circle and the flame. Life and light. Life is always a circle. It's always shown as a circle. And we know that it's life because of its depictions all over the underworld and the trees, right? It's life. And then the flame is the holy flame. Just like in religion teaches us, it's the holy flame. It's what we have inside each one of us. Meaning that we are made of only two things, Life and light. And that they're basically teaching us the path to ascension. Okay, so what is hermeticism? For those who are listening to this, Hermeticism is a philosophical tradition concerned with the underlying order of reality itself. It teaches that the universe operates according to consistent principles that link mind, nature and the cosmos, and that these principles can be understood through symbolism, geometry and observation rather than belief or doctrine. They're all based on governing reality. Reality is ordered, intelligent, interconnected. It's all a system, it's all balanced. Knowledge is conveyed through this, through symbolism and allegory. They emphasize, always emphasize the harmony of consciousness, nature and the cosmos, and they encode it in the most important things possible. So this may be another thing that's going to completely shock people is that this whole story and how this emerged, like how hermeticism was destroyed and. But what it led to before it was destroyed. So what we're going to do is we're going to talk about this time period in which hermeticism was basically banned and destroyed and how Leonardo da Vinci and other secret societies were trying to maintain this knowledge. So the story goes that if you look it up and you're really curious is that in the 15th century, in the 1400s, during this time period of Constantinople collapsing. This is the Byzantine Empire, right? You have. Hermeticism is widely practiced. In fact, the early origins of Christianity was based on hermeticism. Most people don't know that. And it was being practiced all around the ancient world. In fact, Constantinople was the center of the ancient world at that time.

[Danny Jones]

Time.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Well, what happened was as the Byzantine Empire is, is transferring over into Christianity in a more powerful way, you're seeing a little bit, you're seeing a lot of friction with people that are still studying hermeticism. It's not a very. It's not. Constantinople became a place where you couldn't freely practice those things any longer. So what happened? Hundreds, if not thousands of people from Greece and western Turkey, that region migrated somewhere. All of them, they all migrated to one place. Florence, Italy, mid-1400s, 15th century. Florence, Italy becomes the center of the intellectual world. Why? Because hermeticism, his hermeticism is brought there. Okay, so what happens? Da Vinci learns everything about it. Da Vinci's in secret societies. Da Vinci is initiate. Remember this? Da Vinci is an initiate of mystery schools. That's what he is. So he paints very, very clever things to protect this knowledge. Okay. Not only is the table a T, but you have the three doors in the back with the middle door being the biggest right behind Jesus, same concept. And then if you get into the idea that man is like the cosmos with Vitruvian man, and it is the T, you start to see this relationship that is not separate between us and the cosmos at all. And that they understood that we're actually a fundamental part of the expression of the entire universe itself. Right. So I want to go over what happened to hermeticism. This is super important to us to understand. There's a very evil man in history that nobody has ever heard of called Isaac Kasuban. Welcome Isaac Kassuban back into history. Isaac Kasuban was an expert in ancient antiquities, to ancient texts.

[Danny Jones]

When did he live? Live?

[Matthew Lacroix]

He was. He died in like 16. It was like 1640 something in the mid-1600s. And he, you know, he was born around like, 14 something.

[Danny Jones]

Right, okay.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So that was the time period. Right. During this. Right, during this. Leonardo da Vinci, but later on, time period. So Isaac Kassuban would become. It would be like after. After da Vinci. Okay. If you want to think of it as a time period. Right. So what's happening right now? Christianity has risen very significantly in the. In the Roman Byzantine area. It's becoming very significant. And they want a reason to cut off all ties to hermeticism. They don't want hermeticism being involved in anything to do with religion or spirituality. There's interest involved in that in the Church. So what they do is very clever. They hire Isaac Kasuban because he's an expert in antiquities. They say, isaac, we need you to discredit the Hermetica. Hermeticism. And he's not told that. He's told. We need you to date what the age is of what we think is the oldest text. So Isaac Casaubon takes the Hermetica and he says, he starts. He studies the pages and the ink, and he can tell when things were written and whatever it is. And he determines that the version that people are reading of the Hermetica is from Alexandria. So the scribes of Alexandria, Egypt. But the problem is that it's been rewritten for thousands of years before that. But he tried to claim that the version that they're studying or using as the Bible, you know, in that kind of consensus, is not genuine. It's not as old as the teachings of Moses. See, this is super important to understand. So you had hermeticism that was supposed to be older than teachings of Moses. Teachings of Moses are here. They don't like that because these need to supersede this. You see that? So what they do is they discredit the Hermetica as saying that the version that they wrote was from Alexandria and that the teachings of Moses were actually older. Then they completely discredit hermeticism and they basically go on a witch hunt throughout Europe and burn people to stake and kill. Whoever is practicing, it's pagans and druids, all that stuff. It's all based on this. Yeah, it's now that pagans and druids. The druid St. Patrick story is earlier, but it's based on the same prosecution of this knowledge. They wanted to stamp out hermeticism because it's a threat to everything.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It takes the power away from religion.

[Danny Jones]

It's easier to control when there's one God.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It. It's. Yeah. In all ways. Right. So they banish hermeticism. It becomes illegal. People get killed for it. Hundreds, if not thousands get burned at the stake for it. If you practice it, they call them witches. Remember, they burn them all at the stake. That's what all that was. All of that throughout history has been this. The blocking off of hermeticism of the oldest knowledge possible so that the church can rewrite their own story. So hermeticism dies. Christianity rises up, it gets buried. It exists only in fringe areas of the world. People start studying it a little bit. I've been studying it for at least four or five years. I've been fascinated by it. I understood that hermetic teachings seem to incorporate everything that the ancient world had all together in one. I recognized how important it was, you know, a long time ago. And now to find that the altar proves that hermeticism, the origins of the most important knowledge, knowledge of everything.

[Danny Jones]

It's definitely an interesting connection.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It changes the whole ball game. And what it teaches us is this, is that they explain to us that everything in the universe is based on fractals, but we've been told the opposite. We've been engineered and conditioned our entire lives to make us believe that we're nothing and that we're insignificant and we're not something that's a part of the entire universe. They're trying to have us understand that if not only are we a part of the entire universe, but we're the great actors of it. They explain to us that we are the manifestation of all these things that are playing out here and that a human eye looks like a nebula and a birth of a cell looks like a star, and a brain cell looks like a universe. Because everything is based on a fractal source code. So what they understood was that the universe itself is not down dead empty space, that it's a giant source field of consciousness, the entire universe itself. And that the reason why people tap into it when they become healthy is because you turn your body into a temple. A temple in and the temple out. That's why ancient secret societies were trying to create perfect societies based on this, because they recognize the relationship of the temple, the body temple, and the temple outward to create that perfect synergy of the all. That's why there's three pyramids of Giza, because each one of them represents the relationship between the earth, sun and the moon. And that's a fractal relationship that builds off of the trinity within us. Do you know that the first triptych trinity is inside us, mind, body, and spirit? We're the first triptych. It's us. We're a key component of this entire thing. In fact, I don't even think that the. The technologies of this even work without us. Like, that's the entire purpose of.

[Danny Jones]

So the pyramids were supposed to symbolize that?

[Matthew Lacroix]

No. So get this. It goes. It gets even better. The three pyramids, based on the specific stone they're using. Limestone is an insulator on the outside. Right. And then granite has an incredible piezoelectric properties of that.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

When you start looking at the relationship between first us, then the three pyramids, and the relationship between Earth, Earth, sun and the moon. Three, three, three. There's one final three. Remember, the universe is made of three parts. So the three parts keep repeating themselves in everything. That's what's so beautiful about it. It's a fractal relationship that repeats on a greater and greater scale. And so they understood that on every level. Which means that the last triptych, Orion's belt, the three belt stars of Orion, that's why they were pointed to that. What? I believe it created pyramids. Yeah. That's why I believe it created some kind of a conscious technology that's like a stargate, but not a physical stargate. But I firmly believe that these are realm gateways to not only realms of reality, but other aspects of the universe that we don't even understand yet. It uses consciousness as the ultimate form of technology to incorporate the human into what looks like a system that gets created based on fractal geometry that gets bigger and bigger and then allows them to create a synergy with the universe. Now, let me show you what I mean by that. Take a look at these Images. On the left is a place called Bapuan. It's in Cambodia. It's one of the places that I filmed as part of the documentary. Off to the side in this really remote part of it that nobody goes to, that's overgrown in the jungle. I found with Dr. Robert Schock and the team, we found these fractal miniature temples that look exactly like the larger versions next to it. They're miniature versions of it. They were creating the fractal relationship of each one being smaller to bigger, to bigger to bigger, which is the same relationship as us to the universe and Earth to the stars and everything. So they're creating these miniature temple versions, but not only that, on the right side, that's Hans Orheim. He's an archaeologist on our team. That's a miniature version of the larger temples right above it. So I could never figure it out. I'm walking up the mountain along these. These temple ruins, and there's all these little miniature versions. Like, what are these? It wasn't until I understood this that that's what they were building. It was these relationships between fractal geometry everywhere. That's why the T's get bigger and bigger, and everything is that relationship. That's what they understood. Good. Everything in the universe is connected. Everything. We are part of something so vast and important. And unfortunately, we forgot. And it has allowed us to have so much disconnection that we are literally living in the inverse version of what we're supposed to be. They understood that. And that. And this is the last slide, is I just want to, you know, have this be the part we can kind of bring this home, is that they understood that this blueprint of how everything works is essential for a civilization or it will destroy itself eventually. Essential, which is why when I showed you Gilgamesh going and finding the mes with Zaya Sudra, he lost them after. That's why the MI's never made it into our society after Uruk, because Gilgamesh became obsessed with his own immortality. He tried to use them for his own. His own superiority, and he didn't give them back. And humanity lost all of this, and it became fragmented in certain secret societies and eventually used to control us. Because if you know how humanity can reach its optimal form, you also know the opposite.

[Danny Jones]

Wow.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So basically, they're leaving us the greatest knowledge of the universe and humanity and God and what we are into their structures so that we can find our way back.

[Danny Jones]

So you think that the pyramids were not just symbolic. You think they opened up Some sort of a Stargate?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yes. There, there's a technology that's involved here. How do you think Gilgamesh got to the underworld? You have to go.

[Danny Jones]

How do you think Gilgamesh got to underworld?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I think it got through at Ionis from the underworld. The underworld. Susie Temple, that, those Tusi temples, I believe their purpose were literally realm gateways. That's what they are. A human would lay on the altar, which was a T, and it would literally be a realm gateway to take consciousness, not your physical body, consciousness, and allow you to, to go to other realms of reality.

[Danny Jones]

Do you think there was drugs involved?

[Matthew Lacroix]

I don't know what they used to get there, but it certainly was a deep alignment in a balance and meditation. Let me give you an example, how beautiful this whole thing is.

[Danny Jones]

When was that cup of best dated to Stephen? That, that Tampa, the University of Tampa. Have you heard of that? The cup of Bess?

[Matthew Lacroix]

No.

[Danny Jones]

I guess Bess was a God that the Egyptians worshiped. I, I don't know the exact dates, but there was a, a cup that was found, an ancient Egyptian cup that was found and they did an analysis on the inside of it to determine what was held in that cup and they found. Yeah, there it is. Okay. 2200 year old hallucinogenic ritual found.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Oh, there's Plant psychedelics have always been a critical element in all these things. Of course we know the Egyptians highly valued lotus as their psychedelics.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

No, no, 100%, I'm for sure. I mean these are all just things to help. What they do is they, they bridge. They bridge and separate us from being locked into physical reality so that we can. It's like a, it's like you take the, the divider between those realities and you kind of, you kind of make that an easy, seamless way to go between. Yeah, you dissolve it. Thank you.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

And so I believe that what we're looking at are highly advanced technologies that are so much more advanced than we could ever imagine. We're so sorry, but I think we're so stupid thinking that we're going to build all these ships to fly everywhere. The journey's always been within. And not only that, but they're building technologies that we can take consciousness and travel the stars. What are we doing?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Matthew Lacroix]

We could be doing the most incredible things. You imagine if we. This blueprint right here. Right. And I'll, I can close this out now because we're done. But I'm going to end on that. It's the last thing, that's Cambodia. This blueprint, you imagine how far we've gone from this. Just think about it for a minute, Danny. How far is our civilization gone from this, from what they knew.

[Danny Jones]

It's certainly on a completely different path.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Now imagine we found this. Now, now what's going to happen? We found everything. We found our way back. It's always been a circle. Do you realize that there's always been this fractal journey that's always described in the entire universe and within the human experience it is that you start in a place where you know everything, humanity. We start from an origin point, right from source. The whole idea is that this is beautiful design woven into it. It's a story, it's a hero's journey where you're supposed to forget everything humanity. You're supposed to. It's deliberate. You're supposed to forget everything and wander and then you're supposed to find your way back and then end up right where you started. Perfect circle, over and over and over again. It's a story that repeats itself across time. It's the oldest story that's ever known, ever been known. And the fractal relationship for our story and our consciousness to the universe is profound. Humanity thinks that we're separate from the cosmos. We are the great stage of the cosmos else. And what is playing out here is the greatest story ever told. We just forgot it.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah, certainly fascinating man. It's hard to.

[Matthew Lacroix]

So.

[Danny Jones]

So essentially when we, we were on this path, we were continuing this until the church came up, came around and sort of pushed this to the side and made the church the main story, control of the world and civilization.

[Matthew Lacroix]

They understood that if you follow this, you can be controlled by anybody, right? You would always be your own temple. You could find ascension through your own means. You wouldn't need any immediary. That's dangerous because you can't control that. So what do they do? They discredit all of it. Burn everybody that practices it alive on its stakes, right? And then they basically banish it so nobody hears about it, doesn't think it's anything and it's the truth all along. And now with this ancient code, we can prove it. We can bring all this back. We can bring humanity back into balance, into equilibrium. We can bring them back to being gods of the universe again. That's what we're supposed to be all along. We just forgot.

[Danny Jones]

It's wild, bro. It's wild.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I know it's.

[Danny Jones]

I don't know how you. I don't know how you, it's certainly fascinating and I can see how you can incorporate this stuff into your life and kind of like fall down the rabbit hole and get consumed by it. But I certainly don't see how any path to our society returning to some sort of a knowledge or incorporating something like that, that back into, what do you mean? Society in a greater way.

[Matthew Lacroix]

How do you not see that? How, how do you, how would you possibly ignore that? You think that's going to be able to stay? Stay?

[Danny Jones]

I, I, I can't ignore it personally, but I, I don't see how you could get the structures and the systems of society today to accept something like,

[Matthew Lacroix]

I am 42 years old, I have a lifetime to change this world and I won't stop until this blueprint and this code is embedded into our culture again. You can't stop this. There is no going back. It is already out. This world that we've created based on unbalance, destroying the planet, killing each other, being completely disconnected to everything, that nightmare is about to end. And whether or not you can see that it's going to happen in the future, it's inevitable. It just matters how long it's going to take. This old world that we have is dying and it should die. All the stuff we built, it's not built on what matters. Imagine what we could do with this. Imagine the stone temples and structures we could build. Imagine the society we could build with coherence, with balance in everything in the universe and Earth. Imagine what we could accomplish. That is precisely what the entire purpose of freemasonry and secret societies was. The temple in and temple out. They understand that the basis of a society was this knowledge and deep understanding of philosophy and all of that. That's what they understood, was the core. And if you lost that, if it was degraded, you would basically always have a, a civilization that would go down a destructive path and eventually would destroy itself. You see, Let me, let me answer what you just said. You said that I can't see this being incorporated into our civilization. If this doesn't, Here's a, here's a bold statement. If this doesn't, we will destroy ourselves.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

That is why this is emerging now.

[Danny Jones]

I, I think you probably would need some sort of a large scale destruction before you could see something like this be rebirthed.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Why is that?

[Danny Jones]

I think you need something catastrophic.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Do you not think that people want this already? How many? If I walked up to.

[Danny Jones]

No, I agree with you. I think people want it. But I think you have to have a massive, massive Civilizational global shift in consciousness.

[Matthew Lacroix]

What about an Internet that's. That's all over the world that everybody can. Two seconds. Find information at.

[Danny Jones]

What about it?

[Matthew Lacroix]

What happens if something like this goes viral? What if this is that viral show that just takes off? All it needs is. Sure. It just needs to have the seed planted in the right way. That's all it needs is. I don't. We don't need academics or higher level people to bow down to this. We need a revolution. We need a new renaissance. We need a renaissance of the people. That's why I'm calling this citizen archeology. Let's take back our story. Let's take back the knowledge that we once embodied in everything that we did. And let's remember everything that we can be again. Because we don't need any high level presidents or academics or people that supposedly rule this world to determine this for us. It's time for us to take back our lives here. We can live that life again. And we're supposed to.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah. You would just need a complete. A complete destruction of the system that exists.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Why do you want to. Why do you think it has to be torn down? Why not slow integration of things changing over time? Because you see that already the way

[Danny Jones]

things have changed in the past is being torn down.

[Matthew Lacroix]

But don't you see that the things that have already become integrated into our culture. Look at how many people are eating organic and from farms and not wanting factory food anymore. Look at all the people that turning stupid TVs off and not even having it anymore. Look at all the people that are doing just going to ancient sites and becoming so interested in all this stuff again. The movement is already here. It doesn't need to start. It's already here. This is just coming at the perfect time. I see such potential for this and I know there's so many obstacles still. There's so much for us to get by.

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It won't matter. Because this is something that can't be stopped. It's a reason why it emerges during these ages. It will transform us. It doesn't mean. I'm not advocating for a tear down of our entire world. That would be chaos. Chaos would violate the blueprint of balance. You can't do that. Anything that violates the blueprint you can't do. Meaning that you have to live in a balanced state. So how would we do this in a balanced way? Slow integration. Which is exactly how it's going to happen. Piece by piece. The first piece that's gonna change lost civilizations. I'LL map it out for you. Wanna know how the trajectory goes?

[Danny Jones]

Yeah.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Lost civilizations gets mapped out. Finally prove lost civilizations exist. Then everybody asks what they were. Like, who were we? Then once they go into who were we, then this all comes out. Simple as that. It's a baby step process that'll lead to an inevitable conclusion and an outcome. And I know that before I die. You think it'll happen in our lifetime before I die. Mark my words. Daniel, you.

[Danny Jones]

I love your optimism.

[Matthew Lacroix]

Before I die, this world will be completely different than it is now.

[Danny Jones]

I agree with that. I agree with that statement. I just. Yeah, it's hard to be optimistic in, in the times we live in, man, when you have these, these global empires battling over. That's in the Bible, Danny.

[Matthew Lacroix]

It's like a. It's like a child trying to grow up. They always have tantrums. Remember, remember, it is always darkest just before the dawn. We're at that point right now.

[Danny Jones]

You sound like a prophet right now.

[Matthew Lacroix]

I can tell you that this age of transformation or transferring into the age of Aquarius from the age of Pisces. Look at, look at how bad Pisces was. Look at how awful it was. If you have a balance of another age, just imagine what the opposite of that would be. You can't have, remember this, you can't have a golden age during Aquarius if you don't have the opposite. The previous age. That's what balance is. Every age must balance itself. Meaning that Aquarius can only be that beautiful if Pisces was that dark. Everything's perfectly designed the way it's supposed to. And you know what? It's okay if it looks like it's a challenging road ahead of us, because it is. We already have this though. Now we just need to incorporate it piece by piece. Daniel, this is it. This is when everything changes. Are you ready?

[Danny Jones]

I'm ready, brother. And I love your optimism. It's fascinating. Where. So where can people find more of your work?

[Matthew Lacroix]

Yeah, please, please check out like I put my heart and soul into the Missing Key, the book that lays out this entire thing. It's. It lays out all the models, all the. I have an entire codex for what everything means, all the whole journey, the discovery. And please, you know, check out my YouTube at, you know, Matthew Lacroix and my website, the Stage of Time. But truly appreciate these conversations. We're going to have to have another one again.

[Danny Jones]

Absolutely, man. Yeah, you keep going deeper and deeper every single time. And this has been a wild one for sure. Thanks again, dude. We'll link all your stuff below. And that's all, folks.