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Travis. Hey, everyone, I'm Travis vengrof.
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And I'm Ka Statz.
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And together we are co DMs for Dark Dice.
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We are.
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And we have some fun stuff to talk about today, largely to do with DMing and running games and playing in.
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Games and some scams that you guys should know of and just some general celebration of Valentine's Day.
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Yeah, being together. Togetherness stuff. That's always good. So we. Let's see. We started coding rather recently on the show only three years ago.
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Oh, man, we've been CO DMin for so long now.
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Yeah, it's actually been longer, I think.
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And it's so much more than just like sitting at the table when you co dm. It's the co writing everything, co prepping everything, building things.
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We've done a live show together.
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Yeah, a live show. Live D and D tables at D and D and Castle, things like that.
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It's been a lot of fun. It's a bit different. Not everyone does it. We have some stuff that we do that may help you. For organizational purposes. We like to keep organized. We kind of have an idea of where things are going to go or how long things are going to be or take. And that's always useful to have Word.
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Document, word documents, color coding, time charts, having things written in a way that we both fully understand. And because of that, because we now have a book out, we have kind of determined that we both work well in the format that we're used to when it comes to DMing from a book. So now when we write, we try to write in a way that most fits that it's not only easy for when we want to publish something, but also because we're both used to writing and working like that, and it works for both of us.
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And I'd also say that we are descriptive game masters. So, like, when you hear the podcast and we're describing the different rooms and the scary monsters you encounter, that's kind of what we do.
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If you want to talk about Valentine's Day and a little bit of what we love, which is we love Dungeons and Dragons, but other people also love D and D. And so Travis actually went to a bachelor party for a friend of his, and the whole weekend they played D and D in German.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Auf Deutsch.
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Deutsch. That's trift. It was good. We had a lot of fun playing D and D as a completely different style of gaming than I'm used to, but it was one that was really Cool. So the DM plays with his mother and girlfriend and a bunch of friends. So their style is very laid back. It's not like you're going to die every five seconds. Sort of how I run games apparently. I guess I do.
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We have a very high stakes versions of tnt.
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I'm thinking about all the games that we've played and like how close our player characters get to death. Just about every session.
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Even our casual games, people get very close to death just because we. We think that's exciting. It's. The fun part is like, can I win this? And other people don't want to play that way. They want to play the exploration part. Totally valid. Totally a way to play. But definitely new for Travis.
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Yeah, it was cool. We wound up. I think we were the bad guys. I was playing a halfling to try and be like the neutral. Okay, let's look for some food guy. All the time we kept coming across situations where the party would just steal everything. There was a wedding in the story and we literally plundered because it was a bachelor party. We plundered everything and robbed the kingdom blind. But it was a lot of fun and a very different experience. As I mentioned, it was a lot of. We didn't use character names, we just used each other's names because it was very informal and very relaxed. It was like more playing a board game, I would say in some regards, but a very well built one. And they were using a really cool map system where you could peek through doors but only get like a little bit of peek depending if you didn't open the door, then you open the door and you can see more over inside the room.
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So let's backtrack for a second and talk about this play style some more before we move on to like the technology being used. You said this is the first time you've really played in this kind of game. I know it was in German, that's different. But this kind of play style, was this the kind of playstyle that you would ever want to run?
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I don't think I could run it effectively. It's a lot of prep and it's a lot of work and it's a lot of digital stuff and I just don't have the time to work it that way. I'm more of a. Let me tell you what the thing is in your mind will make it scarier than I try to Ms. Paintslink together or look online for maps. This DM put a lot of prep into it on the front end and it really Showed because it was a labor of love and it was an intensive one. But I generally prefer higher stakes in describing things, I think, and creating a word story with people. I also say it's the first D and D game I played as a player since, like, Covid.
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Yeah, it's mostly either co DMing or you DMing at this point in your life. Forever. DM Sad emoji.
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That's okay. That's okay. I enjoy. I enjoy DMing a lot, I think. And. No, I do. I do enjoy code. I enjoy Cody gaming and enjoy DMing quite a bit. So at the bachelor party, he had a projector that projected this really cool map where the players could walk around and split up. And you have line of sight. And when a creature goes in or out of sight, there's like a fog of war. So you don't actually know where it is once it leaves your line of sight. And if you're really short, you can't see over windows or into windows. And if you're tall, you can see through them and stuff.
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Did you have minis on the table?
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No, it was a projector on a white table and the table was the screen.
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So your minis, or where you were the icon that was you.
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Yes.
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Was also digital.
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Yeah. And it also had. If we had Darkvision or how tall we were and things like that. It was really cool.
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Did you guys move your own? I'm going to call them minis, even though they're not minis. Did you move your own character minis?
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We did not. Because we would each require a computer and we all wanted to. We preferred to be in the moment. So the DM moved everyone. Force. Like, okay, I'd like to go there and I'll point on the map and then we would move it. It was pretty cool, but very different and exciting. And as treasure was looted, would disappear from the map and things of this nature. If there was a note on a table, we could realize, oh, that's a note, and maybe it's got some important information. Or, oh, there's some gold that fell in this corner here. I'll loot.
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That reminds me. A little bit of Mansions of Madness.
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Yeah, Yeah, a little bit. Mansions of Madness. I could see that that was a fun Lovecraftian board game with a lot.
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Of detail and a lot of setup and a lot of prep, but a lot of fun.
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Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that a lot. Tell us, Explain what we do and what we've done in the past, I guess, with our games.
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Well, I would say that again, we don't really rely too much on digital because in the very beginning, yes, we did play our stories digitally. We still do play almost entirely via the Internet, because everybody's all over the world.
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Yep.
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But I mean, I remember at the beginning when I was a player, it was like Travis's really poor little, like, sketch drawings on. What was it, roll 20?
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Yeah, roll 20. It's more of a frame of reference, though.
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Yeah, that's it. It was more of a. Here's a size reference for the location that you're in. And then Travis would explain and describe locations. And I think one of the reasons that we've developed a very descripted version of Dungeons and Dragons, the reason that we first of all enjoy it. So we would do it because we enjoy it, but because we're creating a podcast and the description, the audio description is so important. Nobody can see, like a projection table when they're sitting on their bus going to work or something like that. I think we developed the way that we enjoyed playing to the point where it's the most useful it could be for our stories.
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I'd agree. And even in our home games, we have, like terrain and minis and stuff, and we've got people coming over and playing a couple of different games, but we still use a lot of descriptions. The miniatures are there. They're not the stick figures. They're better than stick figures. But arguably the room is described by one of us.
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Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of amazing minis. I love playing with the minis. I love building the rooms and I love having all these monsters on the table in front of us. But we don't have an unlimited amount of minis.
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This is true.
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So we might not have the one exact monster that we need to represent it perfectly on the table, but we'll have something that's kind of the same shape, slash size, slightly slash, amount of gruesomeness. But our description is still going to be what's accurate to the story. So if I say, like, we only have, like a Basilisk mini. Okay, but let's say you're fighting a behir. If I'm describing a behir, but you see a basilisk, you need to remember at my table what I've described, not what's on the table in front of you.
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And we also do a lot of gaming in person. We did a little bit on computers for a while there, but we work so much in front of computers and screens.
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At the end of the day, I don't want to see a screen.
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I know even our character sheets, like D and D Beyond is awesome, but it's also really cool to have a physical pen and paper in front of you.
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I love having my little, like my little book, my little journal with my stamps and my pens and my rulers. Yeah, I go old school when I don't have to be on a computer because my eyes hurt.
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Yeah, I definitely understand that. Also, there's different degrees of leniency as DMs. Some people are a little more cutthroat.
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Or we are very cutthroat.
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We are. We don't mind killing players. That's okay for us.
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It's. It's not even just killing them. It's saying, this is the dc. You missed it or you guys have rolled so poorly consistently in this skills challenge, there's no way in the world you are going to be surviving this. You're not coming out of this with a positive thing. I know some DMs. Again, if you're there just to have fun and play with people and not have to worry about the stressful stuff, that's great. That's your version of play. Just have fun with it.
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Heroics.
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But for us, that level of, like, stress and tension is one of the.
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Parts of the game I really enjoyed recently where we were playing the Wilds beyond the Witchlight or whatever, and they, this is a bridge. You're just supposed to go, you know, climb down the bridge to get to the ground level. And we lost two players doing that because they both immediately failed. Trying to, like, climb down without any gear. Trying to look heroic. Yeah, it was awesome. And it felt. It didn't feel like hard mode, but it felt like, you know, there were stakes. There were.
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I mean, even if you don't have a high stakes, if you're doing really stupid stuff, you're going to take damage.
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It was a memorable story. It was a. It made the bridge much more memorable than. And we overlooked everything and went down the bridge safely. It was fun.
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So going back to us, Codyming, now that we've been Codyming for several years and I've made my season two premiere as Cody M. Yeah, we got you in season two.
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That was so fun to run.
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We're back in the right timeline, guys.
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I have to say, doing season one and two and then having Caitlyn as this part of season two and onward and like, only co DMing with Caitlyn is awesome. Sorry, ka stats. My amazing partner is amazing.
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It's so much fun. I enjoy DMing. Just like I enjoy playing Dungeons and Dragons, but I enjoy co DMing with you way more than I enjoy just normal single DMing. I feel like it's more collaborative, it's more creative. I have a partner to bounce ideas and fun things off of. We share the stress load of doing.
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Math, and this story has a high stress load for this part of the season, I will say.
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And we're there to support each other whenever one of us takes center stage. If something is me going to the forefront and doing a descriptive section and you're in the background preparing something and pulling up all the statistics that we need, and there's no break, and it's just you keep on playing. You have this kind of uninterrupted flow state of gaming. And I feel like that's something that you and I have worked so hard to build as CO DMs, and I still really enjoy every time we get to sit down and play together.
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Yeah.
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In a story we've created together, in a world that we've built, it's just this fantastic thing. And for all those people out there for this Valentine's Day season, if you've been thinking about co DMing, give it a try. It's fun, it's lovely, and you can kill people together.
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Exactly.
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Total party kill with love.
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I absolutely agree with everything you said. It's. It is a lot of fun. Having an extra person to bounce ideas off does add so much. I think there are sections of the story upcoming and also that if come to pass a couple of those. I was like, yeah, this is coming to pass. And then you had these really cool twists and turns that I was like, whoa, my mind is blown. This is great. Let's do that. And as a result, you know, we bounced the ideas back and forth more and more and developed them and figured out how do we make this all fit? And then also how do we record it in a reasonable amount of time with the party so that everyone can go to sleep at a reasonable hour?
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Oh, that's impossible.
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That is. That was the part we failed at.
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But everything else was almost always it's us going to bed at an unreasonable hour.
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But it was. I cannot wait to share more of this content with you guys. But I've got to edit it first because it's a lot of sound effects and a lot of fun.
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On the topic of sharing a few more bits and pieces for people who love our shared Dungeons and Dragons hobby, we wanted to talk about some weird scams that we saw over the last few seasons. And I want to start with the one that I saw around the holiday season. But I was thinking of getting it as a gift for your birthday or even for Valentine's Day, which is why I was remembering it recently. And I saw all of these different ads for this kind of like D and D as a couple packs. There were like these packs that said that you could get them, you could play with your significant other and together you would explore these stories and you would be both player and DM together and it would be this great romantic evening where you like discovered masquerade secrets and stuff like that.
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There are a few of them that are legit.
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There are a few that are legitimate.
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And they look really cute and they come with all sorts of little adventure y things and handouts. Yes.
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And see, that's what I would love to see ads for. But I understand, like buying ads is expensive. So when it comes to like the much smaller stores, they don't have the money to put into the ads. But oh my gosh, the ones that I saw were consistently these AI scams that if you went to the website and you thought you were going to buy it, you were going to get a great gift for your partner, you were going to play DND at night, you were going to crack open a bottle of wine and try to solve a mystery. Except they would be getting these like AI slop stories that made no sense and the rules didn't work and you could not play them. But that's not what they said online. They were always saying, oh, this is great, this is wonderful. But then if you actually looked up like people on Reddit, not the reviews on the website, but people on Reddit who bought them, they were like, this is trash. Which again, such a pity because for Travis and I, that's such a cool thing. Like, oh, we can play D and D together. We could do that together. That'd be so much fun, just the two of us. But no, they were a scam. And I know that you also recently had a close encounter of some kind with a D and D or a hobby related scam.
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There is a projector out there. It's for sale under four different names. It's the same one. It's a drop ship. People buy it off of Temu. They buy a hundred of them for 30 USD and they'll sell them for like 100 or 130 USD or 300 USD depending on the markup on the fake brand. And it's just a normal kind of like projector. Thing and they're like, oh, it's loaded with so many custom maps. They're not custom maps. And they won't tell you what maps they're using because they're just taking maps from other crops creators and sharing them.
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I feel like we see those dropship scams like everywhere now.
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Yeah, they're getting more common. I think the public awareness of D and D being a thing has started to become large enough where scams are starting to become a thing. So it's, it's an.
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Okay, is it a projector that works?
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It is a projector. It does work to some degree. It projects. Is it a $300, $100 projector? No. Could you buy it off of temu for under $40? Yes. Are they putting in any custom maps? No. From what we understand and from what we've seen from other people who've dug in and left poor reviews, also, if you open the box, you immediately void the warranty.
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Void the warranty. That's so stupid. Oh, one of the things I do recommend though, and I'm sure almost everybody listening to this knows this, but if you're one of the 1% who doesn't know this and it stops you from getting scammed, then that's great. If you ever see something, you're like, oh, that's too good to be true. Just like save the image and then go to Google and Google reverse image, search the image and see if you don't get it on a million different websites being sold by like TEMU and Alibaba and other people saying it's a different brand of something. That just means it's being drop shipped. Yeah, but why, why did you come into contact with this?
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So, yeah, for the bachelor party that I was a part of a party 2. Part of the party of.
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A part of the party of, Part.
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Of the party of. There was a. One of the texts was, hey, we need a projector. What about this one? And it was immediately the scan. It was the exact one that I just seen on YouTube. Like, this is a scam. The response is just, oh, guys, guys, no, don't do it.
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Don't spend it.
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So we got to avoid it that way. But yeah, I was very happy to be aware of it because we almost wound up using that one instead of an actual projector.
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Do you know what projector he actually used?
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A real one that people watch movies on. And it's the white one. It's like a box. It's huge.
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All right. Yeah, good. Projectors, guys, are still very Expensive? Yeah, I mean, I say very expensive because I make podcasts for a living, so anything over, like, 50 bucks is still expensive to me.
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It's like the size of, let's say five D&D books stepped on top of each other. That was the thickness and rough dimensions of it.
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That is our frame of reference for size in this community.
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Well, if I give peaks or meters or centimeters, that's all that it is.
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It is five D&D books stacked on top of each other.
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Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system. It's 17 elephants. Okay.
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Oh, okay, okay. So there was another scam that we didn't have anything to do with, but we saw it during the holiday season.
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Yes, I remember this one.
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And it was like a D and D advent calendar.
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I felt so bad for the people who bought this.
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And Travis and I would watch this poor woman open a one of the doors on her Advent calendar every day, and it was always terrible.
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You're supposed to get a bunch of cool minis. This is just AI imagery or stolen art ripped from other things put onto a calendar. And the company is no longer in existence because they've been burned into the ground by a bag.
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I don't think it was ever a real company to begin with.
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I think it was just someone scamming. And when you open the box and you see the first miniature that comes out, it's like a piece of clay that someone molded and then just baked. But it. Yeah, I don't do clay sculptures. I'm terrible. And this is like something I would make. And it sort of looks like a dragon person sort of. And it's all one color. And they stopped working on it halfway through.
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Thing is, they didn't just have minis. They had what were supposed to be dice.
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I forgot about the dice.
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And the dice were. I'm gonna say dice shaped.
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They were dice shaped, sort of.
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But they also didn't have the numbers on the sides of the dice. They had them on anywhere. Randomly on the dice. Repeat numbers. They would have random numbers. It was just like, this is. This is completely useless. It doesn't just look like AI slop because somebody had to hand make those weird little minis. But it looked like if an AI had access, like an old. An older AI like the AI from years ago that still put way too many arms on creatures.
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a computer that talks to you like that.
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AI had had some kind of access to, like, a metal printer and thought it was making a D12. But instead made an abomination.
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And the D4 just has the numbers on the face. So when you roll the dice, there's a number on every face, but none of them tell you what you've rolled. Yeah, that was weird. That was so weird.
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Loved ones don't let loved ones get scammed in this hobby.
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No. So please be careful, friends, with what you're buying.
B
If you guys are interested in learning more about Kodiaming or want to know anything about how it is that we make what we make, you can send us some questions. What's the best way for people to send us questions? Like commenting?
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They can comment? Yeah, they can comment on the episode and we'll reply back if it's a Spotify or Apple podcast doesn't have episode commenting yet. I think that's a feature they may be unleashing soon.
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I have no idea. But if you leave us comments, we can also compile them into a kind of like a Q and A episode. Because at some point season two will end.
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Some point, yeah.
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And then we can do a Q and A.
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That's true.
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And that would be really fun. So if you want to hear from us about what we do, how we do it and everything in between, maybe hear from Izo, but he's napping right now.
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He's asleep.
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Then just send us those comments and questions and we will compile them.
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And you can also see we've done a lot of co dming videos. We've done a whole series, in fact, on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. It's on all three. Interested? We did that for most of last year. That was exciting.
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No, no, like for two months. It was three months.
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Three months.
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It was so much work, guys.
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It was so much work.
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There's a reason we don't make them anymore. It's just way too time consuming. We would rather be making podcast content. We'd rather be telling stories than making those videos. People who do that job, I mean, it's tough.
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It's a job.
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It's a real. It's, it's, it's a lot.
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It's a job. Yeah.
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Speaking of things that we do for work, we have finally published our book. Book, book, book, book, book, book. Unnatural Horrors.
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And it's being shipped out next week, which is unbelievable. We're very happy. It's going to be shipping to people.
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It's taken so much longer than we would have liked. They literally misplaced some of our books for a while and there was this big hullabaloo about where they Were it's a story. We found them.
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We did.
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So they can finally go out to people. And not only that, but if you remember, season three, which will be returning later on, the pre alpha for that campaign, which is called Shores of the Silver Thrum, is now available for our patrons on Patreon.
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Yeah. So if you want to try running the adventure, if you're okay with spoilers, we would love.
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Obviously there's a lot of spoilers.
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We would love your playtesting feedback and it comes with like 30 minutes of audio drama content. It's a bit ridiculous because there's some found footage.
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Yeah, there's definitely a lot that we're working on. We love creating, specifically creating together. And we have a lot of things that we're working on together, including saying hello to all of you today and wishing you all a wonderful springtime.
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And a happy Valentine's if you celebrate. And if you don't, heck, enjoy the chocolate, enjoy the video games and whatever else you enjoy. Or gaming. Yes.
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If you wait a couple more days, all of the chocolate will be on sale.
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You're amazing.
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I feel like this is more of a an anti consumerist post because we're like, guys don't buy things, they're scams. And then don't fall for the Valentine's Day stuff. Wait for all the chocolate to go on sale, hoard it like a dragon and then. Yeah, I mean if as long as it doesn't spoil, you can, you can keep it for quite a long time.
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Yes. Chocolate in a horde. Well, friends, we're going to go. I'll get editing this so I can get it released on time. And we'll get back to regularly released episodes in two weeks time back with season two, part two of Dark Dice. Till we conclude this thing. Who has a cute little nose? Oh yes, you do who has a cute little nose? Oh yes, you do who has a cute little nose? Oh yes, you do who has a cute little nose? Oh yes, you.
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Jesus.
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Sa.
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Podcast: Dark Dice
Episode: DM Styles and D&D Scams – A Chat with K.A. Statz & Travis Vengroff
Release Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: K.A. Statz & Travis Vengroff
This special Valentine’s-themed mini-episode takes a friendly, conversational dive into the co-DMing experience behind the hit horror actual play podcast "Dark Dice." Hosts and life-partners K.A. Statz and Travis Vengroff reminisce about their styles as Dungeon Masters (DMs), the collaborative nature of their storytelling, and recent experiences at live games and casual D&D sessions. The duo also share cautionary tales about scams targeting the D&D community, including misleading products, AI-generated content, and dropshipper rip-offs. The episode is both fun and informative, blending deep DM insights with a playful couple’s energy.
“Having things written in a way that we both fully understand... now when we write, we try to write in a way that most fits that.” — B: K.A. Statz [01:12]
“We lost two players... they both immediately failed trying to, like, climb down without any gear. Trying to look heroic. Yeah, it was awesome.” — A: Travis Vengroff [09:36]
“We all wanted to be in the moment. So the DM moved everyone... It was pretty cool.” — A: Travis Vengroff [05:25]
“I feel like it’s more collaborative, it’s more creative... We share the stress load.” — B: K.A. Statz [10:41]
“Total party kill. With love.” — B: K.A. Statz [11:59]
“It’s like a piece of clay someone molded and then just baked... and they stopped working on it halfway through.” — A: Travis Vengroff [18:41]
On Co-DMing:
“We don’t mind killing players. That’s okay for us.” — Travis Vengroff [08:56]
On Stakes and Fun:
“That level of stress and tension is one of the parts of the game I really enjoy.” — K.A. Statz [09:28]
Describing Bad Products:
“These AI slop stories that made no sense and the rules didn’t work.” — K.A. Statz [13:56]
“The dice were... dice-shaped... but didn’t have the numbers on the sides—they had them randomly on the dice, repeated numbers.” — K.A. Statz [19:07]
Advice to Listeners:
“Loved ones don’t let loved ones get scammed in this hobby.” — K.A. Statz [20:05]
On Collaboration:
“It’s more collaborative, it’s more creative. I have a partner to bounce ideas and fun things off of.” — K.A. Statz [10:41]
Valentine’s Message:
“It’s fun, it’s lovely, and you can kill people together. Total party kill. With love.” — K.A. Statz [11:59]
This episode is both a practical guide to co-DMing and a friendly warning to D&D fans about the pitfalls of scammy products circulating in the hobby. It’s a reminder to trust in community voices, value collaboration, and keep your guard up—while never losing sight of the fun and connection that brings people to the tabletop.
Happy gaming, and mind your dice (and your wallets)!