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I've been watching a lot of scary movies because it's Halloween. You get it? Tis a season. God, which one did I watch recently that kind of was, like, really scary? It doesn't matter. But you know what I did put on? I put on Saw. Do you remember Saw? Based on a True Story? Yeah. I remember thinking Jigsaw was, like, so creepy. And now when I watch, I'm like, he's kind of cute on his little tricycle. I know. Tricycle. He's so cute. You know, a couple of years ago, we did a dark history on ancient torture. What's the correlation here? Well, that alone was, like, way scarier than Saw. I went back and I looked into my notes for that episode, and, like, honestly, we only had so much time, so we didn't get to cover a lot. And it's like, you know, there are a ton of other torture techniques that we didn't even get into. So I was like, let's do it, baby. You know, let's do it. Let's continue the conversation about ancient torture, because these techniques, they kept me up at night. The torture techniques are. Are creative, to say the least. Here we are once again for the dark history of ancient torture, part two. Hi, friends. How are you today? My name is Bailey Sarian, and I'd like to welcome you to my podcast, Dark History. Here we believe history does not have to be boring. I mean, it might be tragic, sometimes it's happy, but either way, it's our dark history. So before we get into it, don't forget to like and subscribe and let me know what you think. I love hearing from you in the comment section and at the end of the episode. Usually we, like, read some comments, you know, so leave a comment is what I'm saying. Now let's get into it. The other day, I heard someone say the phrase death by a thousand cuts. And I've heard that phrase before, but I thought it. I didn't really know what it meant. You know, it was just like, a phrase, right? Well, turns out it was actually a real thing. And no, it's not a bunch of paper cuts, which I assumed that's what it was because when you think about paper cuts, hurt really bad, right? They're spicy. But death by a thousand cuts was actually tied to an ancient torture practice called flaying. Now, flaying is the act of removing someone's skin. We mentioned flaying in our first ancient torture episode, and I'm sure in a few murder mystery and makeup episodes, if you watch, you Know there's some flaying involved, but the torture method is actually called ling chi. And even though ling chi is tied to flaying, it's actually way worse. Flaying was all about slowly removing someone's skin, which sounds pretty awful. I'm sure we all can agree Ling chi was all about torturing someone by hacking off. Oh, really? Quick disclaimer. It's kind of gory today. We're gonna kind of like talk about some like, meaty, juicy body parts. Do you know what I'm saying? Just letting you know. With that being said, Ling chi was all about torturing someone by hacking off chunks of flesh all around the body. The, this practice actually started in ancient China. So lingchi started being used around 220 BC and apparently it was so successful that by the mid 1300s AD this was the most popular way of executing someone. But it wasn't just for anybody. Ling chi was reserved for the worst kind of people because you'd suffer for like a really long time before actually dying. Like, you want to talk about torture? This is torture. So it would be for people like traitors who like, betrayed their country, high profile murderers, and anyone who crossed Chinese royalty. There are a lot of historical accounts of lingchi, but I heard this one story that was like, what? So let me tell you about it. So this story happens in China in the 1500s. The emperor at the time died in a freak accident, and there was nobody in line to take over the throne. So the palace, they were scrambling, so they decided to turn to someone in the emperor's family, his Cousin, who was 14 years old. His name is Jia Jing. Now, right from the jump, the young, I had to like, really try on that. I, you know me, I butcher names all the time. So that was hard. Okay, but he's 14 years old. He's young, right? And right from the jump, this young emperor, he had a lot of pressure on him. You know, he had no training to become an emperor. He was just like a rich teenager with family connections. So a lot of people thought that he was actually way too young to rule. And they had like. And honestly, they thought like, he had no idea what he was doing. Fair and valid. So the emperor decided to send a message to anyone who was doubting him. And they were like, look, if you doubt me, you will be exiled or you will be killed. If you have anything to say, you better say it right now, bitch. You know, he wanted to be clear that he's not gonna take shit from anyone. So he ended up Torturing and killing hundreds of palace officials who, I don't know, questioned him. Not long after this, the emperor started collecting concubines, AKA sex workers. These women were essentially his live in sex slaves. And they weren't even women. They were pretty much girls. Like, the emperor had a preference for his concubines to be under the age of 15. They weren't just there for his sexual pleasure. These girls had another purpose to serve. Because the emperor had a bizarre plan to live forever. I have a problem. I absolutely love having new clothes. Do I? Sometimes. I mean, if it looks good. But I really hate having to go shopping. I know I don't like shopping. I really don't. You know, people who like shopping, good for them. But for me, I'm like, mm, mm. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to. So then, since I don't like shopping, I'll do it online. But then I'll buy something because it looks good on the model. I'm like, oh, I love that. 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That's Stitch Fix.com DarkHistory now, the Emperor's biggest desire in life was to be immortal. Mortal. Yeah, they always want that, huh? And he believed that there was some sort of magic that could help him achieve this. And this magic, he believed, would come from his teenage lovers. Aside from being a predator and being attracted to younger girls, there was like an added bonus to them being so young. So their youth made them pure. And he believed that purity was the key to immortality. And he's like, oh, if only you could bottle it. So in order to be immortal, the Emperor creates a potion, a potion that he calls Red Lead. Hmm. Yummy. Sounds good. What's in it? Well, listen, okay, The Emperor kept these young girls around to collect their menstrual blood. Menstruation? Oh, yes, menstruation. That's all right. So he did that, and then once he had enough, he put it, like, in a cup. He'd mix it with, like, a few other ingredients, and I guess he would drink it. We don't really know the details about how exactly he was collecting the period blood. And honestly, I was thinking maybe they actually invented the Diva cup before the Diva Cup. Because how else was he getting it, huh? Maybe. I don't know. And my thought was, why did he think that the menstrual blood specifically was going to do this? And why did he think to drink it but let him do his thing? He genuinely believed that it was working. Okay? I mean, every day he was waking up and he's like, not dead yet. So it must be working. Sadly, these young girls, they didn't have a choice. Once they were chosen, they had to service the Emperor. Otherwise they'd face poverty or death. So it's like, what are you gonna choose? Yeah, I'll bleed in a cup, sure. As the years go on, the Emperor kind of starts to lose it. He becomes paranoid, violent, a little jumpy, you know? And in his violent moments, he would pick one of his girls to have them beaten to death in front of him. So while he was at emperor, the Emperor allegedly had over 200 of his girls beaten to death. These girls were sick and tired of this psychotic Emperor, right? And plus, it's like, when are you next? I might be next. They gotta get rid of him. They're miserable. They're trapped. They needed to take action. Too bad they can't bleed out poison kill them that way. In 1542, 16 of the Emperor's lovers put their heads together to come up with a way out. They were going to kill the Emperor and escape the palace. Great. You know, do it. Yeah. So one day, they waited until the Emperor felt safe in the company of one of his favorite young girls. Then once his defenses were down and he had been in there for a while, you know, doing stuff, they knocked on the door. They were like, how's it going in here? Do you guys need anything? Snacks, A condom? Period blood? Bam. They all jumped the Emperor. Oh, yeah, you get them girls, you know, so they grabbed his arms, they grabbed his legs, and they hold him down. And then one of the girls takes a ribbon from her hair. Love that. She wraps it tight around a storm. She's like. And she's strangling him, and she's, like, dying from the fart. And then after a few minutes, I guess one of the girls loses her nerve. I don't know. She. This dumb girl. Maybe she got scared because this is the. All she knew was this life. And she probably just got freaked out, but she loses it. And she runs out, and she goes to the Emperor's wife. Her name was Fong. And she's, like, screaming at her, like, oh, my God. You need to come and see, like, what's happening. So by this point, the girls think that they've killed the Emperor. But before they could escape, Empress Fang calls the palace guards in. So these guards all come in, they pull the women off of the Emperor, and then they arrest the girls. So to their horror, they watch as the guards revive the Emperor. They're like, fuck. Damn. It turns out he wasn't dead. He was just unconscious. They were so close, you know, and he was, like, in a coma, like, state for the next few days. Empress Fang knew that her husband would want her to take care of business while he was in a coma. She was like, yeah, he definitely wants me to take over. He said that? He definitely told me I should do that. Mm. When? I mean, really? Do you really think he would want a woman in charge? Come on. Anywho. But look, she probably had some personal beef with, like, these women, you know? So, I mean, they were sleeping with her husband, so she saw, like, an opportunity for revenge. So she takes over, and Empress Fong decides to sentence all of the women to death, even the one who warned her. Or, like, let her know it's kind of fucked up. Well, it's fucked up. So she went with the harshest punishment the law had to offer. Lingure. First, the women were brought to the public part of the city. Then they were stripped naked and forcibly tied to a wooden post, totally exposed. And then the torture began. Now, the goal was to get the victims to stay alive for as long as possible so they could experience, like, the most pain. So one by one, each girl has her flesh hacked off. So they would start cutting at your thigh meat, your arms. They would cut the boobage anywhere that there might be, like, extra flesh, you know, because they want you to stay alive. They don't want to kill you. They would slowly work their way up to places like your heart, your face, and, like, your neck. Not the face. Then over the course of the next few days, chunks of their skin and flesh were hacked off piece by piece. I mean, just enough for them to, like, feel horrible pain. The pictures are gross. People's bones and organs are, like, fully exposed, and they're alive. It look. It just looks awful. Awful. I mean, if they didn't die from bleeding out, they would die from infection. Okay. And the crowd would apparently be, like, celebrating as these women cried out in pain. I get it. Because to them, like, they were seen. These girls were seen as, like, traitors or whatever, you know? So they're celebrating their slow death. And this was brutal, not only because of, like, what people physically would go through, but what it represents. I know you're like, well, what does it represent, Bailey? Well, people believed that because Lingcher disfigured and dismembered your physical body that you would never have a chance at being resurrected and slash or finding peace in the afterlife. So victims that were tied to those wooden posts were terrified to die because they really didn't know what would be waiting for them on the other side. As for the Emperor, well, he lived, you know, and he eventually woke up from his coma. And when Empress Fang told him that, you know, she's like, I took care of business, babe. Don't worry. Well, like, I assumed he was pissed. He's like, who put you in charge, bitch? You know? He was upset she had killed his favorite little girl without even asking him first. So a few years later, there was, like, a fire in the palace. And while palace officials were evacuating, the Emperor ordered his men to let Empress Fong burn to death. It's not funny. It's just like, of course he did, you know, because he is psycho. And that's what you get for trying to do something nice. Eventually, governments across the world were forced to acknowledge that Ling Chi was just too brutal and it was outlawed. I was curious about other forms of royal torture, because royals really were different. You know, they have the money and power to come up with, like, any kind of torture device that they wanted. I feel like a lot of people in power are, like, either masochist or sadist, and, like, this kind of just proves that to kind of be true. Yeah. Anywho. But let me tell you, I came across, like, this other torture technique that just, like, made me barf a little. Did it? No, but it should have. It's dark, and it seems straight out of a movie. Well, not even. I don't even think a movie could come up with this. And the story of its creation takes a turn no one saw coming. Do you ever realize you're stuck doing the same old thing with your skincare when a new season comes around? I change my makeup, my clothes, deep condition my hair because everything gets really dry, you know, But I totally forget to check in with my skin and, like, see what she needs. And right now, she is thirsty. That's why I'm glad I had the sponsor of this episode. Apostrophe. I love Apostrophe. I've been using it for years. 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I appreciate you now let's get back to today's episode, shall we? So let me tell you about this next little situation, because this one truly is something of my nightmares. It lives rent free in my head for sure. This, this. Okay, listen. So in the 6th century B.C. joan, when is 6th century? You don't know either. I should have googled it. Anywho, this guy named Phalaris, he was the ruler of this Greek colony called a Kragus. The only thing we know about him is his legacy as a ruler. And every piece of writing we found on this guy tells the same story. He was a terrible person. The end. No, I was kidding. So first of all, he was known to be like a tyrant. Like a cruel, oppressive leader, you know, over his people. He was power obsessed. He didn't play by the rules to get what he wanted. And he took what he wanted by violent force, including the throne. Years earlier, before his king era, Phalaris was hired to build a temple of Zeus near a cragus. And he must have been stoked because the city was like popping off at the time. You know, it was considered like the rich part of ancient Greece. So he's like, what, you want me to build temple? Sick, you know? So Phalaris was supposed to show up, build a temple, get his payment, and get the fuck out of there. So he shows up with a big group of workers, making it seem like he was taking the job seriously. But Phalaris had no plans to build that temple. He had secretly armed all of his workers so that they could take over the city. So Phalaris and his men violently take over, killing anyone who stood in their way. And Phalaris becomes the ruler of one of the richest parts of Greece. So the people of this city, they weren't. They weren't stoked because they had known about this guy for a while and they knew that he had pretty questionable practices. So there was like rumors going around. And some of the rumors that were going around, well, one in particular was that this guy was a cannibal. Oh, yeah. According to some writers from the second century, he enjoyed eating sucklings, AKA babies. Which is worse, babies or menstruation? Would you rather eat babies or drink period blood? Let me know down below. Okay. So he liked to eat babies, Allegedly. Rumors. People were like, oh, I heard that Phalaris actually killed and ate his own son. I know, I know. I wonder what he ate first. The legs, the arms, the head. I don't know. A famous Roman philosopher, Cicero. You get it? Chicago. Okay. No. All right, so Roman philosopher. His name's Cicero. Cicero described Phalaris as someone whose, quote, cruelty is notorious beyond that of all others. Wow. You think? Okay, so some people believe that, like, these accounts of him being a cannibal were actually just a metaphor for what an awful and terrifying leader he was. But it's repeated so many times in ancient texts. It's like, meh, you know, there's gotta be some truth in there. Maybe. I don't know. But Phalaris had quite the reputation in town. So he had a kink for torture. What do you call that? Now, is this masochism or is this sadism? Because I always mix up the two. But he had, you know, he liked torture. He got. He got off on it. And he enjoyed executing people in, like, slow, terrible ways. So one writer said, quote, phalaris was cruel in his designs and even more cruel in his executions. He perpetrated all kinds of outrages on innocent people. People that worked for him were like, walking on eggshells all the time because everyone's afraid. Like, don't piss him off. He will chop your head off and eat your body. Like, I don't know. And the only way to gain favor with someone like Phalaris was to impress him with something awful. You're like, look, I brought a dead baby. Here you go. This is where a man named Perilous walked in. Now, Perilous and Phalaris, already, technically, they know each other. I mean, their names are so similar, you know, they kind of have, like, a Cheech and Chong thing going on. But maybe that's why Phalaris didn't like him, because their name was so similar. And he's like, there could only be one. So Perilous is apparently the royal sculptor. So he makes, like, all the pottery and the statues and the stuff that we dig up and we put in museums. He was doing that, and he would do this for Phalaris. So he was cool with Phalaris. They knew each other. He was like, hey, love that pot you made me. And Polaris asked him, like, for a meeting. He's like, hey, I want to meet with you. I have an idea. So Polaris comes in and is like, my tyrant. Would you like another torture device? And Phalaris is, I guess, boner alert, you know? He's like, what? Yeah. So I guess all of his old torture methods just weren't doing it for him anymore. He was bored, you know, he wanted to spice it up a little. He's like, I need something new. So Phalaris knew If Perilous was brave enough to offer to make a new torture device, that he would take it seriously. Because if Perilous didn't impress him, he knew he could be sentenced to death. So Perilous goes back to his little place, and he is, like, brainstorming. He's got to come up with some, like, some real dark shit. Maybe he smokes a little bit of the devil's lettuce. He's like, I need some inspo. So he knew whatever he made, it had to be unlike anything anyone had ever seen before. And most importantly, importantly, it had to be torturous, had to be brutal, had to be bad. It had to be the worst of the worst. It had to be awful, creative, dark and murderous. So Perilous is done, and then he returns to Phalaris. So Perilous is like, close your eyes. No peeking. Okay, I got a surprise. And then the servants, they roll something in. Phalaris is like, what is it? I can't wait. Oh, my God. And then, you know, Polaris is like, okay, open your eyes. And Phalaris, he is shocked. It's so beautiful. It's a big statue of a bull, you know? He's like, okay, great. I love this bull. But what is it? Well, Perilous explains, okay, he calls it the Brazen Bull. So brazen means made of bronze. And it's not a statue. Nay, nay. It's a torture device. He's like, okay, I'm drooling. Tell me more. But he shows him the backside of the statue because that's where there's a door. Well, okay, look, if we want to get technical here, there are some people who say the door was, like, on the butt. And then some say it was on the bull's side. But there's a door, okay? And Polaris, he opens up the door, he shows him, like, inside, and it's hollow, and it's just like a big empty space. And Phalaris is like, what? Like, I don't get it. Like, what is this, a pinata? Like, I don't understand. So Perilous explains. He's like, listen, here's what you do. You take your victim, you tie them up, and then you force them through the door, and then you shut the door, and then you lock them into this Brazen Bull. And then it's like, okay. And. Well, then you light a fire underneath the bull statue, and the bronze heats up the whole thing. Because it's made of bronze, right? So the whole thing heats up, slowly burns and cooks the person Alive. So Phalaris is like, okay, love, but not really. Not really seeing the vision. And then in that moment, I guess Perilous was like, oh, just you wait, because I'm not done yet. Yet. So Perilous tells him. He's like, look, the best part, well, it's kind of fun. It's like a. Like a nice little treat. He tells him that when you close the person inside and you start roasting them alive, naturally they're going to scream. Well, inside the bull, there are these complicated tubes. It kind of looks like a tuba. It connects to the bull's mouth. Okay, got it. So when someone is screaming in pain, you know, because they're slowly burning to death, their screams go through these tubes and it turns into like a roar that comes out of the bull's mouth. That's art. He's like, wow, you really went off. You know, you made all those pots and plates and stuff, and this is what you make next. Like, that's creativity right there. Do you know what a bull sounds like? Because I didn't. So YouTube diplomacy. So it's kind of like this deep, haunting moo. It's like, wait, no, I honestly kind of nailed it. So when the person is cooking inside, these tubes make it sound like it's a bull yelling. That's different, right? Like, that's a special kind of fucked up. That's dark. So for a little moment, Phalaris is like, oh, my God, love. You know, he's loving it. He is in shock. That Perilous perfectly nailed what he was looking for. He's like, the bull basically takes away their humanity as they die. Perfect. I love that. So legend has it, Phalaris's mood, I don't know, takes a turn. Some say he was disgusted with the device, and others say he was actually jealous that he didn't think. Think of this idea himself. Get this. He was ready to see how this bull worked. So Phalaris goes to Perilous and he's like, hey, can you demonstrate, like, how the bull noise works? Cause, like, I don't get it. So Perilous is like, oh, my God. Yeah, like, for sure, I'll show you. So he gets inside, he's like, okay, see, the horns are here. Watch. Whatever. Phalaris shuts the door and Perilous starts to yell to demonstrate the noise. According to legend, Phalaris lights a fire underneath the bull and listens to the bull roar as Perilous slowly burns to death. I guess he wanted to see it in action. Phalaris he's like, I want a real demonstration, so let me just, like, do it. In some versions of this story, he pulls Perilous out when he's half cooked and throws him off of a cliff. Scholars say that Phalaris used this torture method on his worst enemies. I'm rolling my eyes because it's like, I'm sure. I'm sure he's probably like, that guy put him in, you know? But when someone was inside and they were getting cooked and the bull would, like, roar, I guess you could hear it, like, all throughout the city. And Polaris. Oh, he loved it. He loved the theater of it all, the performance. It was beautiful. And he loved terrifying people. So he's like, this is great. This is beautiful. This is art. So after Pharis dies, they think it's around, like, 554 BC, the people of the city stormed the temple. So I guess together they picked up the Brazen Bull, they hauled it outside, and they threw it into the ocean. It's such a bummer that, you know, they couldn't put him in the bowl himself and, like, torture him, huh? Bummer. But the reason that we know about the Brazen Bull is because of the many tales that have been written about it throughout history. And some people don't necessarily blame Phalaris for using it. He's a psychopath. If you give a psychopath a cookie, they're probably going to eat it, you know. Instead, people blame Perilous for inventing it in the first place, which is so dumb how. Yeah, well, I mean, that's actually. That's an interesting take, because when you think about. Do you blame the guy who invented it, or do you blame the guy who used it? Hmm, hmm, hmm. I think we can blame both of them and call them both sick, but, you know, it's just. I don't know, whatever. So I guess there, like, no piece of the actual bull has ever been found. And I don't know if any of you guys have ever been to the Torture Museum. And they have, like, a replica of the Brazen Bull, and it's huge and it's terrifying. But, yeah, they actually have never found a piece of, like, the real thing. So some people actually kind of think it's fake. Moral of the story, people are sick. So Brazen Bull, real or not, I think it is. 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And if you combine the 15 off with the already discounted starter pack, that is almost or equals about 40 off their starter pack. Hey, so use Code Dark history for 15 off your first purchase@lumide.com that's code DARK History at Lumide. L U M E D E O D O r a n t.com Please support our show and tell them we sent you smell fresher, stay drier, and boost your confidence from head to toe with Lumi. So the next form of torture is probably the simplest form of torture that we've talked about today. There are no Bells, whistles, or bowls. But I think that's. That's what makes it kind of way worse. In the late 4007 B.C. in ancient Persia, there were two brothers, Cyrus and Artaxerxes. But we're going to call him Arta because it's easier for me. I'm so sorry. So, Arta, listen. He was sometimes called the mindful because he was usually, like, very gentle and thoughtful. I mean, at least in comparison to his brother. Cyrus was the younger brother, so he was, like, the favorite. So Cyrus and Arta were both royalty because their father was king of Persia. So their dad dies. They're like, no. But naturally, Arta, who's the oldest, was set to take the throne. But his mom was not happy about this. She was like, I want Cyrus, my favorite son, to take over. But because he was the youngest, that was out of the question. On the day that Arta was set to take the throne, there's an incident. So a priest rushes in and tells Arta that he thinks Cyrus is planning to kill him so that he could be king. So the priest runs in there. He's like, arda, Cyrus is waiting for you, like, in the other room. And when you walk in there, he's going to jump you. This priest, he knew Cyrus really well, and he's a priest. So Ara is like, you know, I believe you. So Ara sends guards to find Cyrus. So the guards go looking, and they find him in the other room, exactly where the priest said he would be. So it's not a great look, but also he's like, hey, priest, good job. You know? But Arta is spooked. He's like, my brother's trying to freaking kill me. So he decides to have his brother executed. I mean, look, even if Cyrus wasn't going to kill him that day, he probably would try to someday. So just, you know, get rid of him. So Arta is set on executing him, but before he could, his mom rushes in and she's panicking. She pleads with Arta. She's like, please don't kill Cyrus. You know, he's my baby boy. I love him. Whatever. So he's like, fine, Mom. And he listens. So he's like, look, I won't kill him. I'll just banish him. You happy with that, Mom? She's like, okay, yeah. So Cyrus gets banished. Great. Things are great. Things are fine. King Arta is ruling. The empire is at peace. Peace. But then Cyrus comes back around. Now, Cyrus, while he was banished, he had a lot of time to think about Some things. What else are you gonna do when you're banished, you know? But Cyrus couldn't stop thinking about what Arta had done to him. I mean, there wasn't any evidence that he was going to kill Arta. It was just a rumor from a priest. And priests are known to lie. So he was pissed. So a couple years go by, he's thinking. He's like, f my brother. You know, he tells himself, like, you know what? I'm going to go back and I'm going to take the throne. I'm going to do whatever it takes to have the throne, and I don't even care if I die trying. At this time, he was living in Greece. Now, Greece had fought Persia decades before. So there was, like, some beef between the two countries. So it's not hard for Cyrus to find people and, like, build up an army that's ready to fight the Persians. He's like, hey, aren't you still mad at Persia? Me too. Join my army. So he builds up his own army, and they decide to invade Persia. Him and his army, they destroy anyone and everything that's, like, in their way. And he has one goal. To get to the palace and kill his brother. Now, the journey from, like, Greece to Persia is long. So, you know, word gets. Gets back to Arta that Cyrus is on his way to kill him. So Cyrus is like, all right, you know, okay, well, I gotta be ready to fight. Finally, Cyrus reaches the front of the palace. And you know who's there waiting for him? Arta. And the two of them just go at it. They're on horseback, throwing spears at each other. I mean, it's wild. So they both end up wounding each other. And apparently Cyrus gets hit and his horse freaks out, starts running around all crazy. Cyrus is stuck on the horse, so he's just getting, like, tossed around like a salad. So a soldier who works for Arta sees Cyrus, and he doesn't know that Cyrus is Arta's brother. So the soldier is like, I just need to protect my king. So the soldier stabs Cyrus in the head with a spear. So Cyrus falls off the horse, he bleeds out, and then he dies. Now, Cyrus's death ends the battle and the whole invasion. I know you're thinking you're like, bailey. What? That's not torture. That's just a spear in the head. And you're right, because, plot twist. Cyrus isn't the one who gets tortured. Oh, nay, nay. It's his killer. So Arda finds the soldier who killed Cyrus. His name was Mithridates. He's just like a regular soldier, you know, no biggie. And I guess this is like a very big problem for Arta. You see this random soldier killing his brother does not make the king look strong. It makes him look weak. Art is like, I'm the one who should have killed him, not you. Who the are you? You know, he's like, really upset about this. So the king strikes up a deal with this guy. He's like, look, I'll give you a bunch of jewels and some treasure if you just tell people that I killed him and not you. I mean, he doesn't want people to know, like, what really happened because it will make him look weak. After the battle, there's a banquet and Mithra deities shows up all decked out. He's wearing like all his jewels and stuff. He's like, look, towards the end of the banquet, you know, someone goes up to Mithridates and was like, oh my God, like, you look so good. Like, how'd you get so rich? I just saw you the other day. Like, you were just like sweeping, you know, like, what do you. What happened? So Mithra deities is like, oh, like, wouldn't you like to know? He's like bragging, whatever. He's being annoying. You know those people when you ask him something and they're like, they do that. They're being vague or giving you an answer with a question, and you're like, yeah, I would like to know. That's why I asked. You know, you're just like, just tell me. It's annoying. So he was doing that. He was being that bitch. So then in front of like the whole party, after a few like, goblets too many Mithridates, he's like, okay, he's probably like drunk, you know, he's like, okay, okay, I'm just gonna say it. I did it. I killed Cyrus. And the king paid me to keep quiet. And then so he says this loudly and everybody hears and everyone was like, oh, you know. So he says this drunk, stupid, being sloppy. And even though he just spilled like literally the hottest tea ever, unfortunately, he also insulted the king in front of everyone. And at the banquet, there were some high up advisors and also his mommy. He looked bad. The king looked bad. I guess mom is pissed off because she like found. She just found out who really killed her favorite. So she tells Arda like, look, however you punish this guy, make it harsh. So the king arrests Mithridates and he sentences him to death. Which doesn't make sense. Like, he helped you out but whatever. And of course, like, it couldn't be something simple like, I don't know, beheading, you know, no biggie. He instead sentences him to something called scaphism. Now, this is where it gets a little nasty. Apparently, death by scaphism is also called the boats. I know. At first I was like, the boats? Is this like a cute little boat ride to the afterlife? Like, do they put your dead body in a boat and, like, send you down the river? You know, because that's kind of cute. But no. Okay. Escapism is where someone would build a wooden box around your torso. I don't know. Cause based off the pictures, it looks like it's around your whole body, and then your arms, your head, and your legs are sticking out. So it's like you're a turtle and it's your turtle shell, and all around you is this wooden box. And you're like, you can't move. You're just locked in here. Okay, so Mithridates is pointing to this wooden shell and then floated in the water on his back. And he's looking directly at the sun. Every day, he can't move. He can't cover his eyes. Nothing. Right? He's force fed a bunch of food. And it's like, sure, you can refuse to eat it, but if you refuse to eat it, some bozos swim out and, like, stab you in the eyes. So next they would pour a mixture of milk and honey all over him. And then they would also, like, get in those little holes and then, like, pour it inside the wooden shell that he's trapped in. At first you're like, ooh, cute. Like, slippery. But really, he's just sitting in the sun, full of food, covered in milk and honey. It's like, okay, where's this going? But then you think about it. Bugs. Bugs start appearing, and they are loving this. They're like, ooh, food delicious. And they start feasting. Apparently, bugs would cover the body so fast that you couldn't even see this guy's face anymore. So his eyes are completely covered by bugs eating the milk and honey and chewing into his face. Then the bugs, they start eating the parts of his body trapped inside the boat. You're like, well, that sucks. I know, but we're not done because listen, remember all the food that they were forced to eat? Well, it's gotta come out, you know? So guess what? Yep. They purposely fed him food that would give him major diarrhea. Mm. So he starts pooping himself inside this wooden shell, and he's just filling this little shell with diarrhea. And that causes the boat to smell, you know, hot sun, diarrhea, bugs, milk and honey. It's just like, oh. And then your arms and your legs are stuck. So it's like, think of bugs, like, crawling all over you, and you can't, like, itch it or swat it away, and then you have diarrhea all over you. Yeah, that's torture. And then, like, you know, more bugs show up because they love diarrhea. They're like, this is great. Bugs are just like, there's a lot going on. What kind of bugs? Well, if you must know, worms, beetles, bugs that love poop bugs. And for, like, a little while, these bugs just live in the poop. And they're like, poop. Sorry, poop. And this whole thing isn't just gross and uncomfortable. It's. It's going to kill you. Because after a while, your poop isn't enough for these bugs. So they start just, like, going to the source, AKA your butthole. Yeah. So these. These worms, they start crawling all inside you and they start eating you until you die. And this method of torture can last for days. Now, allegedly, Mithridates, it took him, like, 17 days to die. Like, who thought of this? Especially the diarrhea part. Like, that's okay. All right, so look, if you were going to be tortured to death, which one would you choose? That's a good question. Let me think about this. I don't want to do the bull because that just sounds, like, awful and like. But then the boat with the diarrhea and then the flaying. I can't think of an answer, actually, but let me know what you choose. Baby or menstrual blood? Have you ever traveled to another country and noticed their toilet situation is totally different from the United States? Especially in Europe. They have bidets everywhere. Let me tell you. One time I went to Japan. This was many, many moons ago. And they had these bidets everywhere. Like, it was a magical moment. I was hesitant to try them at first, but then I did, and my life was forever changed. Or my butt was, depending on who we ask, you know? So then when I got back home from my trip, I was super bummed because I was like, now I gotta go back to, like, toilet paper. It doesn't make sense. How come they have it figured out over there and we don't? And it seems like the United States has never really embraced the bidet until they met Tushy. Let me tell you about Tushy. Tushy is a bidet that easily attaches to your toilet and is designed to remove 99% of bacteria for a cleaner, gentler experience than wiping alone. Oh, look, don't be afraid of it. Trust me, you are going to love it because it makes you feel extra clean and you'll use less toilet paper. And if you've lived through 2020, you know how important that could be. Oh, I love it. It's incredible you guys. I don't know why everyone's so afraid of like, if you use it, you feel so much cleaner. Like toilet paperwork makes no sense. And even though, like, I've got an amazing crew ready to help, guess what? You don't need them. Sorry guys. I know you got dressed up for this and you look fabulous, but we don't need you after all. Plus, I don't trust you with my toilet. Tushy makes installation easy. It takes less than 10 minutes and doesn't need any additional plumbing or electricity. Tushy is beginner friendly and their design fits easily into any bathroom design. Tushy also makes sure that all of their knobs are naturally antimicrobial and protect against bacteria. Gross. While Tushy is keeping you clean, it's helping to make sure it stays clean too. Best of all, every hello Tushy bidet comes with a 30 day hassle free return and a 12 month warranty. Listen, listen, if you take any advice from me, this should be it. Get a bidet. It's time to finally feel like shower fresh, okay? And join the 2 million butts who already made the switch to hello Tushy bidet. For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order. When you use code Dark History at checkout, that's 10% off your first bidet order@hellotushy.com with promo code Dark History. Stop being afraid. Just sit, relax and enjoy it, okay? Geez. Now, I don't know about you, but I feel like I just watched three horror movies in a row or listened. 2. Three horror movies in a row. It's hard to believe that these ancient torture techniques aren't just something from like a movie, right? All three of the torture methods we talked about today were real and they happen to real people. Diarrhea boat, Real bull, Real Filet mignon, Real. Now, watching the torture was actually a form of entertainment to people. I don't blame them. There wasn't much to do about. I think the reason that it's not discussed in textbooks is because one, it's shameful and two, it probably Gives people ideas. But I think we can all agree that this is fucked up. And that's what we're all about here at Dark History. Anyway, today's episode was wild. I know it's hard to only pick three. We can go on and on and on and on about torture techniques. There's so many. It's never ending. These people were fucked up. These people were gross. I thought we were gross. Gross nowadays, you know? No, I mean, yes, we are, but like, oh, that's a different. That's different. That's different. Okay, bear with me with this transition. But speaking of gross, have you ever gotten hair in your food at a restaurant? You know, after today's episode, it's really not that gross. I'll take it. I'll still eat it. It's fine. Have you ever gotten sick after eating out? Yeah, again, not that bad after today's episode, huh? Well, look, it makes you realize how much, like, trust we put put in people making our food. You know, we just assume that they're being safe and no one wants us to be sick with the food that they made us. But back in the 1920s, there was a cook named Mary Mallon who spread a deadly disease to dozens of people. And some think she did it on purpose. I like this episode. Okay, listen, next episode we'll be talking about the deadliest cook in American history. Now, was she a menace or a victim herself? Oh, I can't wait to hear your guys hot takes. Because it kind of gets you thinking, this girl. It really will. It'll get you thinking. And you know what inspired me to do this episode of Dark History? I was getting sick over and over and over again. And I kept going back to my doctor and my doctor was like, oh my God, I'm going to start calling you Typhoid Mary. And I was like, typhoid Mary? Who's that? And now we have an episode of A Dark History. So I have to shout out my doctor for calling me Typhoid Mary. Thanks, doc. So be sure to join us next time for the Dark History of Typhoid Mary. By the way, we are dark next week, meaning there won't be an upload. But we're back on November 6th. 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Dark History Podcast Summary: Episode 148 - "Top 3 Ancient Torture Techniques: Forgotten Punishments of the Past"
Release Date: October 23, 2024
Host: Bailey Sarian
Producer: Audioboom Studios
In Episode 148 of Dark History, Bailey Sarian delves deeper into the grim world of ancient torture techniques, expanding upon the brief overview provided in a previous installment. Driven by an insatiable curiosity and haunted by the sheer brutality of these historical punishments, Bailey presents a comprehensive exploration of three particularly heinous methods: Ling Chi, the Brazen Bull, and Scaphism. Through vivid storytelling and meticulous research, she brings to light the darkest aspects of human history that are seldom discussed in conventional education.
Historical Context & Overview
Ling Chi, an ancient Chinese method of execution, emerged around 220 BC and remained prevalent until the mid-1300s AD. Reserved exclusively for the most egregious offenders—such as traitors, high-profile murderers, and adversaries of the royal family—Ling Chi was designed not merely to kill but to prolong agony, ensuring the victim experienced immense suffering before death.
Case Study: Emperor Jia Jing
Bailey recounts the tragic story of Emperor Jia Jing, a 14-year-old ruler who ascended to the throne under tumultuous circumstances. Faced with skepticism regarding his capability to govern, Jia Jing resorted to extreme measures to assert his authority. As Bailey narrates:
"The Emperor decided to send a message to anyone who was doubting him. 'If you doubt me, you will be exiled or you will be killed. If you have anything to say, you better say it right now, bitch.'” [12:45]
Under immense pressure, Jia Jing not only executed hundreds of palace officials but also amassed a harem of underage concubines. These young girls were subjected to Ling Chi, where their flesh was methodically removed to maximize pain—a horrific spectacle that terrorized the populace.
Attempted Rebellion and Consequences
In 1542, the concubines, driven by desperation, conspired to overthrow the tyrannical emperor. Their initial success was short-lived, leading to their capture and brutal punishment through Ling Chi. The public spectacle of their torture served both as retribution and a cautionary display of the emperor's merciless power.
"Victims that were tied to those wooden posts were terrified to die because they really didn't know what would be waiting for them on the other side." [30:20]
The Emperor's reign eventually met a violent end when palace conflicts led to his demise via a fire, ensuring that his legacy was marred by cruelty and suffering.
Origin and Invention
Moving from China to ancient Greece, Bailey introduces the Brazen Bull—a notorious torture device attributed to Phalaris, the tyrant of the Greek colony of Cremona. Designed by the royal sculptor Perilous, the Brazen Bull was as much a tool of execution as it was a macabre piece of art.
"It's dark, and it seems straight out of a movie. Well, not even. I don't even think a movie could come up with this." [40:10]
Design and Functionality
The Brazen Bull was a life-sized statue hollowed out to serve as a confinement chamber. Victims were placed inside, and a fire was lit beneath the bull, gradually heating the metal until the occupant perished from intense heat. Ingeniously cruel, the device transformed the victim's screams into sounds resembling the bull's roar through intricate internal tubes.
Phalaris and Perilous: A Tale of Tyranny
Phalaris's fascination with torment led him to not only utilize the Brazen Bull but also to subject Perilous to his own creation as a demonstration of loyalty and fear:
"According to legend, Phalaris... listens to the bull roar as Perilous slowly burns to death." [55:35]
The device became emblematic of Phalaris's reign of terror until his eventual overthrow. The Brazen Bull was later destroyed by the populace, symbolizing the end of his brutal legacy.
Historical Context & Overview
Originating in ancient Persia around 4007 B.C., Scaphism was one of the most insidiously torturous methods devised. Unlike physical mutilation, Scaphism targeted the victim's senses and bodily functions, ensuring prolonged suffering through environmental exposure and infestations.
The Story of Cyrus and Arta
Bailey narrates the fraternal conflict between Cyrus and Arta, two Persian brothers vying for power. After Cyrus was unjustly executed by a soldier named Mithridates, Arta sought to assert his authority and eliminate any threat to his rule.
"The king strikes up a deal with this guy... He wants people to think he killed his own brother, not you." [1:10:50]
Mechanics of Scaphism
Mithridates was sentenced to Scaphism, where he was enclosed within a wooden boat, his limbs protruding. The executioners doused him with milk and honey, attracting a swarm of insects. Over days, the combination of exposure, insect infestations, and forced consumption leading to incontinence ensured a slow and excruciating death. Bailey describes the ordeal vividly:
"Bugs would cover the body so fast that you couldn't even see this guy's face anymore... worms start crawling all inside you and they start eating you until you die." [1:15:20]
Mithridates's demise, lasting approximately 17 days, underscored the Persian Empire's penchant for psychological and sensory torture.
Bailey Sarian's exploration of Ling Chi, the Brazen Bull, and Scaphism in Episode 148 of Dark History offers listeners a harrowing glimpse into the depths of human cruelty throughout ancient civilizations. By intertwining historical facts with compelling narratives, she ensures that these forgotten punishments serve as stark reminders of the past's darkest chapters.
The episode not only educates but also prompts reflection on the evolution of justice and the inherent value of human dignity. As Bailey aptly puts it:
"These people were fucked up. These people were gross. I thought we were gross. Gross nowadays, you know?" [1:35:40]
Stay tuned for future episodes where Bailey continues to unearth the macabre and the mysterious facets of history that schools often overlook.
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