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Dictators are interesting, huh? And you guys ended up loving the Caesar dark history episode we did. So it made me wonder what other older dictators were out there who I assumed were or I just maybe didn't know about, but actually were, like, really scandalous and interesting and, like, let's talk about it, right? And that's when I found out about a certain emperor we're gonna talk about today. Listen, okay. Not only did he mass murder an entire group of people, but he personally killed just about everyone who was close to. Mm. And you might be thinking, okay, typical. Been there, done that. But no, no one has ever matched this guy's freak. Some of the dictators we've talked about are actually failed artists, and then they would take revenge by taking over the world. But this guy, it's almost like he didn't care about, like, being in power at all. All he wanted to do was sing and dance and have orgies with eunuchs. But instead, he was forced by his mother to rule Rome. Today I'm coming to you with the insane true story of one of the world's first tyrants. Listen. This is the dark history of Nero. Hi, friends. I hope you're having a wonderful day today. My name is Bailey Sarian, and I'd like to welcome you to my podcast, Dark History. Here we believe history does not have to be boring. It might be tragic, sometimes it's happy. But either way, it's our dark history. Before we get into it, don't forget to like and subscribe. I'm always here for you posting new content and let me know what you think down below. I like hearing from you in the comment section. Plus, we read comments at the end. Did you know that? Well, now you know. Let's get into today's story because, listen, Nero. Weird guy, am I right? Nero is a great name for an evil villain. If you think about it, Nero kind of sounds like zero or like a Matrix character. But of course, like any good stage name, it wasn't his real name. This story starts with the birth of a little boy in 37 A.D. named Lucius Domitius. Get it? Like B.B. okay, I do my own sound effects, but to keep things simple, we're just gonna call him Nero because that's. I can say that it's way easier for me. And that's what everyone would end up calling him. So Nero it is. And Nero was kind of doomed from the beginning because his family tree was questionable, twisted. Okay, first of all, his father, Nyas, had a reputation for being cruel and corrupt. He was the sort of guy who would just, like, beat up or hit his servants for fun, you know, I guess there was this one time when he was driving on his chariot, as one does through the street, and he ran over a boy on purpose for giggles and fun and laughter. So really taught that boy something, huh? And then Nero's mom, her name was Agrippina. I'm trying to put, like, who is she? Who would play her today? I don't know, but she was insane, okay? Agrippina was ambitious and extremely manipulative. She would do anything to get ahead in life. And honestly, it seemed to just run in the family. Agrippina's brother was Caligula. Do you know Caligula? Should we do an episode on Caligula? Let me tell you, Caligula was wild. Caligula was like another famous and psychotic emperor from ancient Rome. They were all a little off, a little, I guess you could say. So Agrippina, I guess she learned a lot from her brother, who was like, the emperor. And they were very close, some say too close. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like they were sleeping together. Incestual relations. Caligula and Agrippina had a very messy relationship. Caligula actually ended up banishing her from Rome when Nero was just five years old. And I. I guess at this point, like, things just didn't look good for little Nero. Nero's dad had recently died. There was speculation that he was probably poisoned by Agrippina. Some Aqua Tofana shit right there. But either Way dad was gone, and now his mother, Agrippina, was suddenly gone too. She was exiled. So it was like one day she's kissing him on the forehead, Nero. And then the next day, poof, gone. Bye. He didn't even get to say goodbye. There was no explanations. She was just gone. So Nero was kind of like sent off to live with some aunt he had. And it was a downgrade, but obviously, like, Nero didn't seem to understand the politics of it all. He probably felt like some kind of tension and it was just weird, weird situation. But at this point, he was kind of like, forgotten about. But then something happens that changes the course of. Of history. Caligula gets assassinated. Yeah. Now, this was actually really great for Nero because it gave his mom a get out of, like, exile free card. Okay. An opportunity to come back. The new emperor was Claudius. And this was Agrippina's uncle. Yes, her uncle. Okay. I guess he always liked Agrippina, so he was like, you know, absolutely. Come on back. You're welcome back anytime. So Nero is reunited with his mom and ta da. It was like nothing happened. They're back in the palace. So Agrippina is back in the palace and she gets to work immediately. She's trying to secure the richest, most powerful man to be Nero's new stepdad. So she marries a guy named Crispus. Great name. Crispus sounds like, like, you know when you leave a pizza in the oven too long and the edges kind of get burnt? I would call that Crispus sounds like that. Oh, I love, like a burnt pepperoni Crispus. Anyways, Crispus, this guy, he had a lot of money, he was a politician, and he was worth about 200 million in Roman money. It's hard to, like, beep, bop, boop, calculate how much that would be in today's money, but according to our expert, it would be anywhere from like $330 million to $3 billion. So he was rich rich, you know, so as soon as Agrippina and Crispus are married, Crispus puts Agrippina and Nero in his will. Ooh. 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It was said that, like, Nero and Crispus weren't really that close. Like, he never called him dad or anything. He was just there existing. And he notices that, like, his mom isn't really that bummed about it either. I mean, it was said that Agrippina wasn't even, like, grieving. She was busy plotting, scheming, moisturizing, and watching everyone. Agrippina especially was paying attention to her uncle, who was currently the Emperor Claudius. Why? Well, she's starting to set her sights on the ultimate prize. The throne. But not for herself, because she's a woman, but for Nero. Yeah, she's like, okay, okay, Nero's my way in. So Nero is like 11 years old, minding his own business, curling his hair, I don't know, doing something. Have you seen their hairstyles back then? Very curled. So I imagine he was curling his hair. But he realizes or he, like, sees that his mom is kind of like trying to seduce Claudius, her uncle. To you and I, it's a little weird, but to Agrippina, this was all like a big political move. I mean, she was single. Claudius, her uncle was single. Why not? What do I have to lose? Well, the two fall in love. Yeah, her and her and her uncle. And in 49 AD, on New Year's Day, Agrippina marries her uncle, Emperor Claudius. Ugh. Yeah. So of course the people, the normal townspeople are talking, they're calling it disgusting and immoral, but nobody was going to say it to her face because now she was in charge. Claudius was said to be a little awkward, really into books. He was older, he was 59 years old at this point and Agrippina was 34. So, you know, there was a 25 year age gap and it was her uncle just a little weird. But it was kind of like the perfect match because Agrippina was finally exactly where she wanted to be, in the driver's seat, bossing Claudius around. And apparently Claudius was like just happy, happy to go along with it. Before he married Agrippina, I guess no one really took him seriously as an emperor. He didn't have much experience. And on top of that, he had a limp and a stutter. So people really like, you know, they just underestimated him. Poor guy. He was trying. I don't know, I wasn't there, but I imagine he was trying. Ironically, Claudius was a great emperor, but no one realized it because they were just so busy making fun of him. But marrying Agrippina was exactly like the PR boost that he needed because people were scared of her. This was like really great for Nero, you know, but probably really confusing. Not only is your great uncle now your stepdad, but now Nero is basically a prince. Suddenly, Nero, who went from a zero, was now wearing like royal purple. He was getting the best Tudors in Rome and he was being groomed to be, you know, a potential leader. So Nero is 12 years old and at this age he's a little weird, but he loves the spotlight. From a young age, he was obsessed with singing for his family, the servants, anyone who was watching. He would put on little performances. Look at me, you know, I'm doing the robot kind of. Not really, but, you know, he's a little performer. So now everyone is kind of like paying attention to him and praising him and he's loving it. Well, this rubbed one person the wrong way. Claudius son, Britannicus. Britannicus was three years younger than Nero and he was considered the heir to the throne. He's not Agropina's son. This is another son from a different marriage. But now this Nero kid comes in. Britannicus is like, who the hell is this you know, he's singing, he's dancing. He's, like, doing the little, like, robot or whatever, just stealing all of the attention. And it was said that Britannicus did not like Nero. Like, he hated him, and Nero hated Britannicus because. I'm gonna hate you, too, you know? You hate me, I'm hate you. Apparently, Britannicus would, you know, make fun of Nero and his singing voice and just make. Just make fun of him. And it would drive Nero nuts because, you know, like, f you. I'm a performer. I'm singing. Leave me alone. Britannicus also didn't call Nero Nero. He called him by his real name, Lucius Domidias, which was just kind of rude. It was like a slap in the face. It was just very disrespectful. You know when someone is like, my name is Rob, and you're like, okay, Robert. Yeah, Robert. You know when someone does that and you're like, I told you, my name is Rob. It's like that, but not. You get it at the same time. Agrippina basically made it her job to make sure that everyone liked Nero more than Britannicus. She's like, look at my son. He's amazing. He can perform. Dance for them, sweetie. Dance. She had him getting the best education money could buy. He was getting tutored by, like, this famous Roman philosopher named Seneca. Maybe you've heard of him, Maybe not. Okay. And then Agrippina arranges for Nero to make, like, these little cameo appearances at the Senate. Why? I don't know. She's a stage mom. He had no business being there. But she was setting him up in front of the right people. And basically, he would be there, like, addressing the public, and he would recite, like, these amazing speeches that just really impressed the people. They're like, wow, he reads. That's crazy. You know? I mean, this kid Nero, he was just showing a lot of promise. He was a genius. Wow. But what they didn't know was that, like, he wasn't writing these speeches. Nero's tutor was, so. But that's okay. They didn't need to know. Anyways, Nero's getting all this praise, all this love, and he's getting the idea that, you know, he should be the person who's next in line for the throne and not his brother Britannicus, his stepbrother. I mean, everyone is telling him that he's, like, amazing and incredible. So of course he's full of himself. Right? Agrippina, she convinces her uncle husband Claudius to officially adopt nero when he's 12 years old. So with this move, now Nero is next in line to rule Rome. Checkmate. Now the family is one happy family. Not really, but you know what I'm saying. So when Nero is 16 years old, Agrippina, his mom is like, you need to get married. It's time. You're old, get it together. Plus, it'll give the impression to the people that he's an adult, he has his priorities straight. Marriage, Britannicus. There's a lot of names being thrown your way. Are you following? I hope you are. Me too. Okay, listen, because now Britannicus has a sister. So again, this is like Nero's stepsister. Technically, yeah, but her name was Claudia Octavia. Okay? And everyone was a big fan of Claudia. They loved her. She's a girl, she's smart, she's down to earth, whatever that means in Roman era, you know. She can't be a leader though. She's a woman. No, can't do that. So Agrippina is like, hey, what if you guys got married? I mean, again, they're not really, like kind of not really sort of related. They are, they're like cousins, but they're not at the same time, so shut up. Why don't you guys just get married? People love her. It'd be great PR for you, Nero. Don't you want to be on the COVID of Vogue? Your marriage photos, it'd be beautiful, gorgeous. So at 16, Nero marries his 13 year old cousin slash sister, Claudia. That's gotta be confusing. Now it's your wife. Hey, sis. Wife. Cuz, can you get me something? You know, like, okay, I don't know, they get married. You know, it was said that they didn't really get along, but it didn't matter, it was all for show, okay? It was all part of Agrippina's master plan. So at this point, Nero is the eldest son and now he's married to the Emperor's daughter. So just a couple months before Nero's 17th birthday, something crazy happens. Emperor Claudius is not feeling very well. Okay? He's been sick or poisoned or maybe both. Depends on who you ask. But what we do know is that there was this one night, he's sitting down to eat some dinner, some mushrooms, I guess, like they weren't his favorite. He loved mushrooms. And then he just never got back up. Sorry, I just had to like, ah. Because some people believe that the mushrooms were poisoned. Poisoned? Did you read that story recently where that woman like, tried to poison everyone's meal? I think it was something like mushrooms or something. It happened in the uk. She, like, tried to poison everyone. Actually, it might have been the United States. Either way, very similar story. So he's eating mushrooms. He's his favorite. He never gets back up. Claudius dies. Now, some people believe that the mushrooms were poisoned. Others think that the mushrooms themselves were poisonous. But either way, dead. But the people are talking. People are talking and they're starting to believe that Agrippina was the one who was behind his death. They're thinking this because, you know, she had a motive. Apparently Claudius was starting to, like, question whether or not, you know, Nero should be the next one up or if it should be, like, his son. He's starting to, like, question the whole. The whole thing. So, yeah, he adopted Nero, but he had his. His other son, Britannicus, you know, and Britannicus was getting older and technically that's like his son. So he's starting to, like, think, you know, like, Claudius is like, yeah, maybe I want Britannicus to be the next runner up, right? But, like, if Claudius did change his mind to put Britannicus back into first place, well, then Nero would be cut out completely. Agrippina wasn't about to let that happen. Well, it didn't matter if Claudius wanted to backtrack or change the will or whatever. Cause he is dead. And just like that, baby, Nero becomes emperor at the age of 16. So the next morning, guess who's in charge, baby? He's like, it's me. And the next morning, he comes out in his purple robes. You know, he's got his tutors behind him telling him what to say. And he goes out to greet the public with his mom, Agrippina. And the crowd was cheering because to them, Nero was young, beautiful, well educated, and supposedly guided by wise adults. Meanwhile, Britannicus, he knows what's going on. He knows the truth. Nero just stole the throne right out from under him. Remember growing up, like, all the movies we watched was, like, about shopping and it always looked so fun. Pretty Woman, Legally Blonde, Clueless. To be honest, I've never seen Pretty Woman. I know. Don't come for me. I'm so sorry, but I know, like, shopping was involved. I know the scene, okay, Anyways. But then you grow up and you realize shopping is hard and kind of. I feel like it can be an inconvenience. It's like 30 minutes since you're trying on clothes under fluorescent lighting and you're like, what size am I? I don't even like this. I'm sweating. I just want to go home and plus mold these days. Let's do a dark history on that, huh? Yeah. Anyways, you don't have to deal with any of that if you don't want to, because Stitch Fix can do the work for you. Stitch Fix is this online personal styling service that connects you with an actual stylist who just gets it. You tell them your size, your budget, and that, you know, I don't want low rise jeans. Okay. And then they handle the rest. Your stylist will send you curated pieces that actually fit and feel good. What a dream. What a concept. The best part, there's no subscription required. So you can order a Fix when you want and, like, keep what you love. And then anything that you don't really like, you could just put in the return bag and then send it back. You don't have to pay for it. My last box came with outfit suggestions, which I love because sometimes I need ideas of, like, something will be cute, but it's like, how do I actually wear this? So they give you ideas or suggestions, and I love that. So if you're tired of dressing rooms, crowds, leaving the house, going outside, or just staring into your closet, like, I don't know, try Stitch Fix Personal styling for everyone. Get started today@stitchfix.com DarkHistory that's StitchFix.com DarkHistory so overnight, Nero becomes the youngest emperor Rome had ever seen. He's officially the most powerful teenager in the world. And people started calling him Golden Prince. He's charming, he's handsome, and he speaks well for a teenager. So people are just loving him. And Agrippina, Loki is like, that's my baby. That's my baby. I'm so proud. Yay. Like, she is just living. She is so happy. Kind of like thinking she gets to co rule Rome with her son. Yay. So as soon as, like, he's in charge, the first thing she did was, like, have coins minted with her face on them. She even has statues of herself built. She's holding court, she's issuing orders, and she even sits next to her son when people come calling. So it kind of got people thinking, like, who's really in charge here? Is it Agrippina or Nero? Eh, I don't know. We don't want to question them, though. Ruling Rome is a lot of pressure, right? Well, I don't know, but it makes Nero, like, grow up pretty fast. He has a lot of responsibility now. He's in charge. People are coming to him for everything. That's a lot of pressure. He's Still a teenager at the end of the day, he didn't want to be micromanaged by his mom. So Nero decides to try and like, distance himself from his mother. He stops asking her for advice. He starts spending more time on his art. He starts to make friends with different singers and actors. And because he's in charge, he's just surrounded by yes men. All they do is flatter him. He's technically married, but he doesn't really like that bitch. And then he ends up falling for a former enslaved woman named Acti. Well, this makes Agrippina lose her mind. I mean, this is not what she planned. You're not supposed to fall in love. You are busy leading, being a leader. Don't get distracted. So she tries to break them up, right? But it only makes Nero and Actes bond stronger. So when that doesn't work, Agrippina does something diabolical. She decides to start sweet talking her stepson Britannicus. So she's going to Britannicus and like, oh, you're my favorite. Oh, Britannicus is Nero's like enemy. He doesn't like that guy. So when he's sees his mom like now, liking him makes him mad. I mean, I guess in Agrippina's mind, if she can't control Nero, she can just replace him with Britannicus. You know, he's 13, he could be easier to manipulate. Just do it again. But Nero catches on to what she's doing. He realizes that his own mother might actually be a threat to his power. So one night, Nero invites everyone to dinner. Britannicus is there, along with a bunch of like high society Romans. Everything's normal, everyone's eating, everyone's drinking, everyone's talking. Then all of a sudden, Britannicus takes a sip of his wine and then starts gasping for air. I don't know, very dramatic. Is he putting on a show? Well, he collapses. He starts to like convulse on the ground and like, what the hell's going on? Everyone's just kind of frozen, I guess. And Nero shrugs and is like, don't worry guys, it happens all the time. It's just his epilepsy. Well, Britannicus is having a whole moment and everyone's like not helping him. I don't know. But then Britannicus dies. Dinner and a show, I say. Sad. But then Nero, I guess at this moment just dabs his mouth with his napkin and then leaves. Which made it crystal clear to everyone in the room, don't fuck with Nero. Well, I'm sure after that dinner, everyone just kind of shut up and is kind of scared. I don't know. Did he kill him? Many believe we don't know. But at this point, the public is, I guess, still. Hopefully they're not seeing what's going on behind closed doors, you know, but the people closest to Nero, they start to notice, like, little weird things. Like he's. Something's going on with this guy. He was all of a sudden, like, impulsive. He was having some major mood swings. I mean, at the end of the day, he's a teenager, so. Okay. But you know, they didn't like that. Nero had always loved singing and dancing and acting, but he was starting to get obsessed with the idea of being a of part performer. Like, he really thought he was gonna. He was like the most talented person in the whole world, you know, and he was God's gift to everyone. He's like, watch me dance. Da da da da da da da. And everyone's just like, oh my God, wow, you're so good. Like, oh my God. You know when you're a teenager and you're just trying to figure out, like, who you are and what you're doing, Nero's going through that. Like, he starts dressing up in different costumes. He's running off, he's disappearing at night. No one knows where he's at. He's starting to race chariots. I don't know what's he doing. He's not even wearing a helmet. He was just like in his bad boy little teenage era. And he didn't really care what anyone thought. If someone tried to tell him, like, not to do it, he would just give him that look like, I'm gonna kill you, give you the botanicus treatment. You want that? Meanwhile, Agrippina has gone from powerful to paranoid. I mean, she taught Nero everything about how to rise to power. And now she knows exactly how he might take her down. Poison Aqua tabana. Aqua tablana. Now, according to experts, Nero tried to poison his mom three different times. But somehow she always kind of knew what he was up to and she would take an antidote in advance. Some scholars say this is because she puts poison so many people. So, like, she was always expecting to be poisoned, or she intentionally, like, built up an immunity to poison, which is kind of wild, but okay. Nero is. He's trying to get rid of his mom and he's realizing this whole poison thing isn't really working out for him. So he's like, I gotta get a little creative, channel my art side, you know, like, if I'M gonna kill my mom. I gotta have a little bit more fun with it. And, like, really just catch her off guard. So when the poison didn't work, Nero came up with, like, a little idea to have ceiling tiles fall on her head when she's sleeping. You know, those things are pretty heavy, right? That'll knock her out. But it didn't work. So he gets back to the drawing board, and he's like, what if I built a boat? Not just any boat, but, like, a boat that would collapse when you're out on, like, the water. And, like, you would, like, collapse and you die. That'd be kind of sick. So he draws up, like, this boat, you know, a collapsing death boat. He's called it Titanic. But I'm. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. That's not funny. Nero, he secretly has this boat, like, made and whatever, right? These people work on it. He's like, so you're gonna make this boat, but it's, like, gonna collapse. It's like, isn't that cool? Okay, great. So these guys, they make this boat. And the whole point of this boat, if I say boat one more time, but the whole point of this boat is that it's designed to fall apart mid sail. She can't get out of that in the middle of the ocean, she's gonna be stuck. And he really thought this was gonna be it. Like, he was gonna get her with this boat. So she got on board. She's like, oh, my God. Like, where are we going? This is so crazy. Like, we're just gonna go on, like, a nice Sunday cruise. I love it. She gets on the boat, they take off, and they're out on sea. And then the boat collapsed exactly the way Nero wanted it to. So the people on the boat, they didn't know about this little collapsing situation. So everyone is panicking. Crew members drown. But Agrippina, she's like, oh, hell, no. Like, I'm not going down like this. So she ends up diving into the water and in full Roman robes, she swims, right? She swims, and then she's able to, like, get back to shore. She is unkillable, this woman. Could you imagine how heavy those clothes must have been, though? The adrenaline must have been pumping. She did not. She was not gonna die, okay? She's like, you are not gonna kill me, bitch. So she swims all the way to shore, and when people see her and they hear about the crash, they're like, oh, my God, girl. Like, what happened? That was crazy. I watched. But Agrippina, she stayed calm, and she tells the people. Like, it was just, like, a freak accident. I don't know. But, like, secretly, I think she knew. She knew what was up. Well, word gets back to Nero that his mom survived. And he's like, what the. What? He tried to poison her. He tried to drop tiles on her head. He tried to drown her in a collapsing boat. He's like, what the. Like, what? I am out of ideas. So he's realizing he needs to stop making things so complicated and crafty and just, like, get the job done. So Nero just tells a couple of the guys that work for him, some soldiers. He's like, look, go get Agrippina and kill her, okay? Find her and just kill her. Like, I'm done doing my little magic tricks. Just kill her. So these soldiers, they go out, they find her. She knows it's over, and she knows exactly who sent them. Legend has it. Or the story goes that her last words were something like, strike my womb first. Like, stab me here, because that's where I created my monster son. And so they were like, okay. And they did. Right in the womb, she is stabbed, but then she's stabbed to death. Very dramatic, I'm sure. Very messy, very Roman. Now when word gets back to Nero that his mom died, he's like, what? Oh, no, that's crazy. What's for lunch? He's, like, pretending to be all shocked. Oh, that's so great. What? He gives out a speech saying, like, I can't believe this terrible tragedy has occurred. Who could have done such a thing? So, yeah, he's putting on a whole performance. Very overdramatic, but okay. You know? But behind closed doors, Nero kind of spirals, you know, he didn't. I don't really think he fully thought this through. He doesn't have a mom, dad, uncle, cousin. He doesn't have a stepbrother, cousin, you know? Like, he has no one. He's 21, and he's all alone. All of his family's gone. And even though Agrippina was sketchy, you know, and, like, just a lot, she was still his mom. She was always the one who was, like, fighting for him, giving him advice, getting him to the top, hyping him up, you know, it was a lot, you know, and now that was gone. And I think now he's realizing, like, okay, I got rid of my mom, but, like, oops, I didn't really think this through, you know? So he's kind of just, like, going through grieving, you could say regret. Consequences of his actions, he made choices and now he's dealing with them. So at this point, he's. I guess he was drinking a lot. He was getting really paranoid. It was said that he was having nightmares about his mom, like she was haunting him. Then it was said Nero would, like, kind of talk to statues. He would wander the streets in disguise. He would get into fights with strangers. He was lost. I mean, how would he ever recover from this? He was thinking this was gonna ruin the tour, the world tour. But this is kind of like a big turning point in his life and his story. And if this were a movie, this would be like that. Something switched in his head. Like, for the first time, Nero was like fully free. He'd been told what to do his entire life, and now he could do whatever the hell he wanted. So yesterday I was doing my laundry and I was like, I'm bored, you know, which is sad. Is. Is. And I didn't want tv. 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New members can try Audible now, free for 30 days and dive into a world of new thrills. Visit audible.com darkhistory or text dark history to 500. 500. That's audible.com darkhistory or text Dark History to 500. 500. So Nero is in his twenties and he already killed his thirteen year old stepbrother and now his own mother. Wow. He's done a lot of things and everyone around him is too terrified to tell him no. He can finally do, like, what he always wanted. Perform full time. Yeah, he starts putting on all these shows in public, which at the time was extremely scandalous. Yeah, I Guess Rome was filled with singers and dancers and musicians, but, you know, that's. They were considered like low class. So now like, what's he doing? High class Romans just didn't do that. Not to mention the emperor. But Nero doesn't care, you know, he just wanted to perform. He starts reenacting, like Greek tragedies where he plays everyone, every character, the men, the women, the gods. It's a one man show. And I guess his shows, his performances were known to go on for hours, sometimes even days. And once these shows started, no one was allowed to leave. I mean, Nero thought he was like a gift to the people. So it was considered extremely rude to leave, walk away, not engage, not watch. How dare ye. I don't think they said ye in Roman time. But so if you were like, let's say you were pregnant, your water broke, well, you would go into labor right there in the audience, in the theater. You couldn't leave. There were soldiers that were stationed at the exits to keep everyone inside. Yeah, it's given North Korea for sure. And when Rome isn't enough, he takes a show on the road. He literally goes on tour through Greece. He competes in the Olympics. Even though he wasn't like athletic at all, he played no sports. Did I mention sports at any point in this episode so far? No, because he didn't play anything. He didn't do anything. But he still competed. He competed in the Olympics. Why? Because he's annoying, that's why. He just can do anything. No one's gonna tell him no. And didn't even matter because everything he did, he would still win, you know, even if he lost, he would win. He would go on to quote unquote, win a chariot race after literally falling out of the chariot and not even finishing. But everyone still was like, wow, bro, you nailed it. Like, wow, you're so good. I wish I was just like you to. That's crazy. You're so good. Please don't kill me. Please. So Nero is doing all this stuff. He's winning everything. He's performing, he's making everyone watch. But, you know, his love life, his love life was also a mess. He was still technically married to his cousin Claudia, but they weren't close at all. I don't even know where she was. She was just off somewhere. I don't know. I don't know what she was doing. I don't know where she was. I don't know. Well, that doesn't mean Nero didn't want love. He still wanted love. And it's Believed that he started having an affair with a woman named Papaya Sabina. Papaya Sabina was like, the total opposite of his goody two shoes cousin wife. Claudia. Papaya was glamorous, she was ambitious. She was not his cousin. And according to most Roman sources, she was a master manipulator. I guess everyone knew she was sketchy. Sounds like his mom. Kinda, huh? But the problem was, like, he was technically still married, you know? And the Roman people, they loved Claudia. I don't know why. I'm sorry, Claudia. I'm sure you did great things. So when the rumors started that Nero was sleeping around with Papaya, people were pissed. They saw Papaya as a gold digger and a schemer. Nero knew that, like, he had a. He had to cover his back. So he decides, I'm going to throw my cousin wife under the bus. So he goes out publicly, and he's like, guess what? She cheated on me. Mm. She's been cheating on me this whole time. And then he takes it a step further. He tells the people that Claudia, she can't even have kids. Ooh. Like, this is a big deal. Because that meant, like, she couldn't give him an heir to the throne. So this was pretty scandalous. So he's making all these wild accusations, and now that it's out to the public and people are kind of, like, confused or whatever. Like, is she cheating? She can't have kids. Oh, my God. What? Like, that's crazy. Nero then divorces her. Yep. And he's like, well, she's a hoe. And the public lost their minds. This is like when Charles cheated on Diana with a Camilla. It's very that people make T shirts. I'm Team Claudia. I'm Team Papaya. Whatever. I'm team no 1. So there were protests in the streets. Papaya knew, like, she would never truly be safe if Claudia was still alive. So she pushes Nero to get Claudia out of the picture. At first, Nero exiles Claudia to show his lover Papaya that he was serious about her. But that wasn't enough, Right? She wanted more. She was just as crazy as Nero, and she wanted Claudia out of the picture for good. So she tells Nero that Claudia is a threat, and she somehow convinces him that this is true. I don't know. It doesn't seem like Nero needed much convincing, like, to kill someone, honestly. So Nero ends up sending his soldiers after Claudia to kill her. Nero wanted Claudia's death to look like a suicide. And just because they were married a long time doesn't mean, like, you know, he Was gonna take it easier on her. No, he made his men tie her up and made it look like she ended her own life. Like dying in a hot tub. And then just to really make sure that she was dead, they cut her head off. Because that's exactly what someone does when they're going to kill themselves. They cut their heads off. I feel like the story made sense until they cut her head off. Now it doesn't really look like she killed herself. Kind of goes against that, but okay, they did it. They did it because they were gonna take her head back to, you know, papaya as proof that they killed her. Well, they didn't have pictures or anything back then. They could have sketched it. See, we killed her. There's a sketch of it, of the crime scene, but they wanted the head. You know, Papaya's like, oh, he does love me. It was like the diamond engagement ring, but in a head form. He really loves me. As soon as she got Claudia's head in a bag, she said, let's do this. Let's get married. And they did. They got married. Wow, what a love story. You know when you're taking a shower and you're like, la la la, washing my hair, it's so great. I'm having a great day. And then you start pulling out clumps of hair. Not clumps, but like maybe concerning amounts. And you're like, I really hope this is normal. And then you put it on the shower wall. Yeah, the other day I was like, oh God. Like is, is this, is this okay? Is this okay? 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Some kind of scheme to, like, make room for a new palace. Some even said that Nero played the fiddle on his roof and watched the city burn. You know, it's like those. I'm thinking of, like, those emo songs. Was that Nevermind or that Usher song, Let it burn, Let it Burn. Either way, his reputation was on the line. People wanted someone to blame for all the destruction, the chaos, all of it. And Nero sure as hell didn't want it to be him. So he needed a scapegoat. So he's, like, looking around like, who can I blame? I killed everyone that I could blame this on. Um, you. He picks this, like, newish religious group at the time, and they were considered kind of weird to the Roman public, the Christians. He was like, I'm gonna blame it on you. He blames the whole fire on them. He even starts rounding up anyone who claimed to be Christian, and he tortured them and he burned them alive. And he ended up turning this mass murder into a show. He would round up anyone who considered themselves to be a Christian. He forced them into a giant arena, and then he released, like, wild animals into the arena to eat them, attack them, you know, it wasn't great. It was brutal. Some records say that at least 900 people were killed by Nero at this time. Nero had a very short fuse and was violent with just about everyone. You know, he just wanted an excuse to kill, I guess. I'm not sure. Including his second wife, Papaya. Well, it was said that the next year, like, you know, it started off cute and then. But Nero started to show his True self. He lost his temper. It was said that he kicked Papaya in the stomach and at the time she was pregnant. So he kicks her in the stomach and a few days later she ends up dying. What kind of kick was that? My God. So he kills her. But I don't think that was his goal. I think he just really was like, wanted to hurt her. Right. So when she did die, he was like actually really upset about it. He was devastated. Yeah. You little shit. So he embalmed her body with rare spices. He gave her a lavish funeral and it was said that he was just a total wreck afterwards. Well, maybe, maybe you shouldn't have like try and kill your wife. I don't know. There's a lot. So he's really upset. Time is going on. People around him are starting to get worried because, you know, he just, he couldn't move past Papaya's death. They're like, bro, get it together. Everyone dies here. They don't even last like 20 years if they're lucky. It doesn't matter. It was the love of his life. So what does he do? What am I to do? Why am I here? Well, at this time, Nero, he looks around and he finds a young boy named Sporus. Now at this time, Sporus was a slave, probably a younger teenager. But if Nero squint, if he like squinted his eyes, he was like, you kind of look like Papaya. It's crazy. According to Nero, this little boy looked a lot like Papa. Papaya. Oh, you know, he's like, whoa, I'm in love. She's still alive. So this is where he kind of takes it up a notch. Well, he's taken it up a lot of notches, but this is another notch that is up. He decides to have Sporus castrated. Yeah. He makes him into a eunuch. I'm not making this up. This sounds fake, but it's real. He gives Sporus makeup, dresses and whatever else he needs to look exactly like his dead wife. Yeah. Then in a full on public ceremony, Nero marries him. Yeah, they actually get married. Nero instructed the wedding to be treated like as a real Roman marriage ceremony, complete with like a public celebration. Nero as the groom and Phorus dressed as his Roman bride in a veil, a garment, gown, all of it. I know. I would like to hear Sporus's side of the story here. Poor kid. What the hell? From that point on, Nero takes Sporus with him everywhere. They're married. That's his wife. And you will not question anything about it. That is his wife. So Sporus came with him to public events, sat next to Nero at banquets, traveled with him, and appeared at ceremonies in full looks. You know, everyone was told to call Sporus Sabina after Papaya. Her last name, Sabina. And you had to refer to him as Nero's wife. Cause if you didn't, I would kill you. So, once again, the theme of Nero's life was, like, no one told him no. So this whole thing kind of works for a little bit. I don't know how, but it does. You know, at the end of the day, it was like a band aid over his pain. But as when Nero settles into his life with his new wife, his paranoia starts to bubble up. Nero starts to think that everyone was plotting against him. So he does what any, like, unstable emperor might do. He starts purging. He gets rid of senators, generals, former allies. Anyone who looked at him funny or anything was accused of, like, treason and then violently executed. Then Nero starts seizing property. He starts hiking up taxes. He starts going after rich families. And people start wondering, like, is he good? Like, is this guy even fit to rule? Yeah, once you start messing with the rich families, huh? That's when people start to question it. Not all the murders and all that. No. Well, even his friends. Oh, he had friends. Good to know. Even those closest to him. Some he would call his friends. They start to turn on him. So finally, in the year 68 A.D. someone decides to do something. A politician named Julius Windex decides enough is enough. I know Windex. I was like, I love that window cleaner. It's so good, right? His name's Windex. Named after him. It's not, but I like to think it is. It kind of is when you think about it. Because this Windex is. He comes in and, like, calls Nero out and, like, cleans up his mess like the window cleaner. Okay? But this Windex guy puts his neck on the line and publicly declares that Nero is a disgrace to Rome, which no one did at this time. Okay? So this guy was brave. People were like, you really want to do that? Okay, all right. And Mr. Windex, he puffs publicly nominates another politician to take over the throne. So the senate agrees with Mr. Windex and makes a huge move. They declare Nero a public enemy. Now, essentially, when someone declares you a public enemy, you're done. Anyone can kill you, no questions asked. When Nero hears this, he realizes his time is up. So a few of his servants, and I'm assuming his lover, they're hiding out in, like, a villa on the outskirts of Rome. Morale Is low. Okay? Nero is asking his servants if he should flee to the east, maybe start a new career. You know, he could dye his hair. He could be an actor. He can, like, get a flute and play the flute. I could just like, I don't know, what do I do? You know? But at this point, like, no one really. Everyone's like, dude, it's over. And then they get a message. The Senate has officially ordered Nero's execution. They were planning to take Nero in public, strip him naked, and beat him to death. The Senate soldiers were on their way. So Nero is having dinner when he hears this news, and he absolutely loses it. I mean, he crashes out completely. He ripped up the bad news scrolls, he flips the table. He smashed his two favorite cups. Everyone kind of low key expected him to kind of like, you know, end his life. It was seen as, like, the honorable way out of a terrible situation. This time in Rome, especially because he'd already been given a death sentence. So they're like, oh, he's probably just gonna Epstein himself. But things got pretty awkward because Nero, he didn't want to die. He's like his mom. In the middle of the night, Nero, he wakes up and realizes that he is alone. Everyone had left. His guards, his friends, his lover, his servants. And the walls were closing in. You know, he's feeling desperate. So Nero starts running around the villa screaming that he needs someone to volunteer to kill him because he didn't want to do it himself. Apparently. He screamed, have I neither friend nor friend foe? No, Nero, none. You have friend nor foe. I love that. Someone was around to write this down, this quote, but didn't volunteer. I don't wanna kill you. I don't wanna kill someone. No. But I'll write down this quote. Iconic. Okay? So no one wants to kill him. And he's not. He doesn't wanna do it himself. He doesn't want to. He's scared. So Nero is alone and he hears the soldiers coming. It's all dramatic, right? And then it's said that he quoted Homer very dramatically and goes, the sound of swift horses strikes my ears. I imagine that's how he said it. And then he takes, like, a knife and he stabs himself in the neck. What's funny is that at the exact moment that he stabbed himself, a Roman guard had busted in and was like, wait, I'm here to save you. But it was too late. He's like, oh. Oh, yeah. Apparently, Nero's last words were, what? An artist dies in me. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He should have asked for forgiveness. Okay? When Nero died, he was 30 years old and he was the last emperor of the Julio Claudian dynasty, which was basically the first royal family of Rome. It ended the dynasty of Caesar and Caligula and tons of other famous emperors. It was over. It was done. Honestly, I think Nero would be happy to know that his death threw Rome into total chaos. He sparked a crazy power struggle so intense that the next year became known as the Year of the four Emperors. There was also, like, rumors going around, conspiracy theories that Nero wasn't really dead, you know, that he went to like, Cuba or whatever and he was actually gonna come back and seize the throne at any moment. You know, those conspiracy theories just every. All the time. It happens all the time, right? They're never dead, are they? And to this day, I mean, people still talk about him. His story lives on, and I think that's all he would have cared about. So what a journey, huh? What did we learn today? Kids, don't marry your cousin, uncle, sister, brother. Like, what the fuck, you know? Nero was like the blueprint for unhinged dictators everywhere. He turned paranoia into politics, performance into power, and his own ego into a state religion. Even when everything was collapsing around him, he believed he was a gift from, you know, gods and the best artist the world had ever seen. Yeah, what is that, huh? I don't know. You know what's kind of interesting though, that he was like this big performer and loved being on stage. And when you look at like Mussolini, who we've talked about, he loved writing romance novels. Also an artiste. Hitler allegedly was a painter. So maybe the lesson here is that we need to fund the arts. Prevent the dictators, huh? If you just let them paint, let them write a romance novel. Cuz when you don't look, what happens? They take over and they just go psycho. Give them the paintbrush. It's okay. Here. I don't want you to be a psycho dictator. That's my. That's what I was thinking, you know, and also, more people just need to hear the word no. Because when you think about it, Nero was never told no. A lot of the dictators we've talked about were never told no. No. He wasn't stopped until Mr. Windex stuck his neck out and decided enough was enough, right? Yeah. More people need to be like, uh, no, that's a bad idea. Maybe don't like, kill your mom. Just thought I should say that, you know, in our next episode, we're diving Deep into a phenomenon that used to be so fringe and strange that you never saw it outside of a circus. And even though it's completely, completely mainstream today, there was once a time when everyone who practiced it was labeled a freak. Today, it's a billion dollar industry with protein powders, gym selfies, and motivational quotes slapped on tank tops. What happened between then and now? Who were the people who changed everything? How did we go from sideshow to liver king? Tune in next week for the sweaty, sexy and strange history of bodybuilding. By the way, we're dark next week so there won't be a new upload, but we will be back on July 9th. Well, I'd love to hear your guys reactions to today's story. Let me know down below. What do you have to say? Tell me. Make sure to leave a comment so I can see what you guys are saying and then your comment might even be featured in a future episode. Oh, the comment section on this video is going to be a good one. Now let's read a couple of comments that you guys have left me in previous episodes. VA1445 left us a comment saying, congrats on the Webby. Well deserved. I have loved every Dark History episode. You and your team do such a great job. Thank you so much. I know. 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Dark History Podcast Summary
Title: Dark History
Host: Audioboom Studios (Bailey Sarian)
Episode: 174: Murder, Incest, and Castration: How Nero DESTROYED Rome
Release Date: June 25, 2025
In Episode 174 of Dark History, Bailey Sarian delves into the tumultuous and dark reign of Emperor Nero, one of Rome's most infamous rulers. Through a captivating narrative, Bailey uncovers the layers of Nero's rise to power, his tyrannical rule, personal tragedies, and ultimate downfall, painting a vivid picture of how his actions led to the destruction of Rome.
Bailey begins by introducing Nero's troubled lineage. Born Lucius Domitius in 37 A.D., Nero was destined for a life of hardship from the start. His father, Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus, had a notorious reputation for cruelty, famously running over a boy with his chariot for amusement (02:15). Nero's mother, Agrippina the Younger, was equally formidable—ambitious and manipulative, she orchestrated Nero's adoption by Emperor Claudius to secure his ascent to power (04:30).
Notable Quote:
"Agrippina was insane, okay? Agrippina was ambitious and extremely manipulative. She would do anything to get ahead in life." — Bailey Sarian [04:30]
The assassination of Emperor Claudius in 41 A.D., possibly orchestrated by Agrippina (06:45), paved the way for Nero to ascend the throne at just 16 years old. Agrippina's strategic moves included arranging Nero's marriage to her niece, Claudia Octavia, to solidify his position (09:20). Despite his youth, Nero was thrust into power with Agrippina acting as a co-ruler, minting coins with her image and heavily influencing political decisions (12:10).
Notable Quote:
"Overnight, Nero becomes the youngest emperor Rome had ever seen. He's officially the most powerful teenager in the world." — Bailey Sarian [12:10]
Nero's reign was marked by extravagance and tyranny. Initially celebrated as the "Golden Prince" for his charm and performances, Nero's behavior soon took a dark turn. He grew increasingly paranoid, leading to the murder of his stepbrother Britannicus (18:55) and his own mother Agrippina after multiple failed assassination attempts (27:30).
Notable Quote:
"Nero's life was the blueprint for unhinged dictators everywhere. He turned paranoia into politics, performance into power, and his own ego into a state religion." — Bailey Sarian [45:00]
The Great Fire of Rome in 64 A.D. was a pivotal moment in Nero's reign. Although rumors suggested he played the fiddle while Rome burned, Nero deflected blame onto the Christians, initiating one of the first persecutions of the group (33:40). His increasing erratic behavior, lavish spending, and public performances alienated the Senate and the Roman populace. By 68 A.D., opposition culminated in the declaration of Nero as a public enemy. Facing imminent downfall, Nero attempted suicide but ultimately took his own life, marking the end of the Julio-Claudian dynasty (56:50).
Notable Quote:
"When Nero died, he was 30 years old and he was the last emperor of the Julio Claudian dynasty... His story lives on, and I think that's all he would have cared about." — Bailey Sarian [60:00]
Nero's reign left a lasting impact on Rome, leading to a period of chaos known as the Year of the Four Emperors. His legacy is a testament to the destructive power of absolute authority unchecked by moral constraints. Bailey concludes by reflecting on the parallels between Nero and other historical dictators, emphasizing the importance of dissent and the dangers of centralized power.
Notable Quote:
"More people just need to hear the word no... Because when you think about it, Nero was never told no." — Bailey Sarian [62:15]
Episode 174 of Dark History masterfully navigates the rise and fall of Emperor Nero, illustrating how his personal flaws and ruthless ambition led to the downfall of one of Rome's greatest civilizations. Through engaging storytelling and meticulous research, Bailey Sarian brings history to life, ensuring that Nero's dark legacy serves as a cautionary tale for future generations.
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This detailed summary captures the essence of Episode 174, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of Nero's destructive influence on Rome. Whether you're a history enthusiast or new to the series, Bailey Sarian's engaging narrative offers valuable insights into one of history's most notorious figures.