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If you've ever felt like you're not a "real" founder because you're not chasing unicorn status, this episode is your permission slip to build differently.

Jodie Imam has done almost everything you can do in the Australian startup ecosystem. She co-founded Occasional Butler and went head to head with Airtasker (who eventually acquired her), opened depo8, one of Melbourne's first coworking spaces, and now runs Tractor Ventures, the revenue-based funding company backing the founders who don't want to ride the VC rocket. And it all started at age 12 with a business called The Ironing Lady.

You'll hear the moment at Ericsson that convinced Jodie she could never trust a corporation with her future, and the trade she made to escape it: her car space for a job with fashion designer Leona Edmiston, working weeks for free to prove herself. She's honest about what that costs, and why she tells anyone changing direction that you can't expect a corporate wage while you do it.

Then there's the Occasional Butler story, including the very first job posted on the platform (a $5 gig to eat a packet of Doritos, planted by a rival you might have heard of), the Gumtree hack that finally unlocked their flywheel, and the raise-or-sell decision she faced while pregnant with her third child.

Jodie also opens up about the journaling moment that led to Tractor Ventures (she wrote "I want to work with Matt Allen one day" and he messaged her that same day), the EOS framework and visionary-integrator split that transformed how she and Matt run the company, and the spiritual awakening after her divorce that has her exploring goddess rituals and witchcraft alongside running a venture funding business.

Stay to the end to hear why founders are whole humans, and why you can absolutely manage millions and pull tarot cards in the same week.

Time Stamps

00:00 Cold open and welcome to Life After Launch

01:05 Megan's disclaimers: buying the gear, timing references, and learning to stop saying "yes"

02:18 Introducing Jodie Imam

03:11 The Ironing Lady at 12: where the independence drive began

04:00 Watching Ericsson make 30-year veterans redundant, and the seed it planted

05:13 Trading a car space for a job: nine years growing Leona Edmiston from 3 people to 100

09:17 The owner's mentality: why Jodie told her bosses "I have to feel like it's my business"

10:26 Babies as the catalyst: leaving to start Occasional Butler with her husband

12:39 Selling the house, moving to Melbourne, and going all in on two businesses with two babies

14:47 The first job ever posted: a $5 Doritos prank from a familiar rival

16:00 The Gumtree hack that finally kicked the flywheel

18:23 Building too much before testing, and why launching feels like standing on stage naked

20:09 The exit story: the capital-raising mistake that cost months, and the board move that worked

23:16 Selling to Airtasker while pregnant with baby number three

24:51 Setting up Innovation Bay in Melbourne

27:02 COVID kills depo8 overnight, and Tractor Ventures is born from a lockdown living room

33:06 The journal entry and the WhatsApp message: how Jodie and Matt Allen teamed up

34:23 How Tractor actually works: the first $2 million, revenue-based finance, and the funding stack

37:26 Why Tractor only hires senior people

39:54 Rocket Fuel, EOS, and the visionary vs integrator dynamic (plus seagull management)

44:01 Life after exit and divorce: spiritual awakening, goddess rituals, and witchcraft

47:41 Quickfire: what's inspiring Jodie and the ecosystem shoutout

49:16 Outro