Most people think private messaging is already solved. Chris Fresle is proof it isn't.

Chris Fresle is the founder of Just Us, a private messaging app built to prevent image-based abuse. He's a year nine dropout with no tech background, a patent pending across six countries, and a product that uses facial recognition and object detection to make private messages genuinely impossible to screenshot, forward, or capture on another device.

In this episode, Chris joins Alan at the Cremorne Digital Hub in Melbourne to talk through how he built something everyone said was impossible, how he found and trusted a development team in Vietnam with no technical knowledge of his own, and how he's using survivor-led influencer marketing to build trust with a Gen Z audience that WhatsApp and Signal have never been able to reach.

Stay until the end for Chris's take on why Australian investors are harder to crack than US investors, and Alan's advice on how to pitch a product that people struggle to believe actually works.

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:00 The Journey to Creating Just Us

06:02 Building a Trustworthy Team

08:55 Navigating Skepticism in the Startup World

12:00 Monetization and User Engagement Strategies

15:07 User Feedback and App Development

17:58 Marketing and Influencer Partnerships

20:50 Protecting Intellectual Property

23:56 The Vision for Just Us

27:14 Passion for Change and Helping Others

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