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Welcome to Dear Alice, a lifestyle approach to interior design.
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Dear Alice. Today we are going to be talking about our favorite, favorite people. That is our pets. Yeah.
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Some we're all like, I'm super passionate about. I know Jess is.
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Yeah, yeah. Obsessed. Obsessed with our pets. In fact, I remember really cute.
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Should name it obsessed with our pet.
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We really are. I feel like we take a bullet for our pets, right?
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Yeah.
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We might love them as much or more than our children just because they can't. They never say anything.
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They don't talk back.
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Oh, yeah. And so you're just constantly trying to read their mind and win them over. It's like that. That boyfriend or girlfriend that ignores you and then you just want them even harder.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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That's my two cats to a T. I was like, love us. Love us.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So funny.
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Totally. Well, I'm just in setting the table so everybody knows I have a dog and a cat. Actually, my daughter's cat lives with us too. So our dog is Lady Bennett, and our cat is Tokyo Magic, which is the coolest name.
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That is the coolest name.
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Yeah. Yeah. My brother said that your pets don't have to have your same last name. But we love our dog so much that for sure she's part of our family. Like, I think maybe I. I gave birth to her. Yeah, for sure. I carried her in my womb. But the cat is just sort of. I don't know. He's definitely not our last name. That's how I feel about cats, though. He's.
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He's his own thing. He's just. Yeah. His own magic.
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He is. Yeah. He's. He's kind of like a rock star that lives in our house. And I'd love to take credit for him, but he just came that way. And that's why his name's Tokyo Magic.
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Yeah. I have two cats. The youngest is Fred, and then I have Larry, who's a little bit older. And then we have a dog named Betty, and she's a Great Dane. So we want, like old people names.
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I think that's kind of funny names for dogs. Yeah, I think it's so, so funny.
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Yeah, it's amazing. And like cats, too, just because their personality. But I wanted to know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Do you let your pets sleep in your bed with you?
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Oh, gosh. Can't wait. What?
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Yeah, I know.
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Well, go, go.
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It's a. It's a real double standard. I know Sue's is gonn on the sheets on this one, which is when sue was having babies, which sue had babies a little bit later in life. And so I wanted to impart my old lady wisdom. I went to big sister sue and say, listen, this is the advice I was given at my baby shower. Some. Some older woman said to me, never, ever, ever, ever, ever let your babies sleep in bed with you, because it is crack cocaine for babies, and you will never get them out of your bed for the rest of your life.
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It's actually really good advice. You gave me the same advice, and I think that.
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So I never did it. I. For some reason, she was even kind of a stranger to me. I didn't know who she was at my baby shower. My mom had invited somebody, and I was like, oh, man. Drill sergeant. Like, I.
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This became Bible to you.
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It was. It's the one piece of advice that I took from a baby shower. And here my kids are, like, in their 20s now, and I still feel like I need to pay this forward.
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Who do you sleep with, Jess? Who do you sleep with now? Every dog. I sleep every dog every single night.
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Yeah, I do. Lady Bennett sleeps in bed with us, and she likes to sleep between our pillows. Nuzzle in. She likes to put her head on Adam's pillow and not on my pillow. But if he's gone, she does crack cocaine. Crack cocaine for dogs.
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She's addicted to it now, huh?
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She is. We cannot get her out of our bed. She's in love with us, and we're in love with her.
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She's sweet, though.
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It's a real double standard. Does Betty sleep with you?
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No. I was. I was honestly against it, and even Larry didn't until we got Fred, like, a year ago. And then it's just like. Yeah. I mean, cats.
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Cats.
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That's the thing about cats. They're gonna do whatever the hell they want to do.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? So, like, I could kick him out and fight it, but it's just easier to.
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He'll claw you in the night. So it's. It's a fear.
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It's a fear he does attack our feet, and that pisses me off. I'm not gonna lie to you. But I just kick him. So, yeah. It's all. Yeah. Just playing. He knows.
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Oh, man.
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Just playing with each other all night. But I'm like a. Don't let your pet sleep, because. Great Dane, too. She's £100.
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Yeah.
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You can't have that in your bed.
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There's not a king big enough.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She sleeps in her own bed. And I think that's best for her and us.
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Y'all like each other better.
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But, guys, we're not ignoring Sue Hall. Sual does not have pets, but she does have three young boys. And so she's. It's like she has a herd of. Of pets.
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You need to get some horses one.
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Day, though, you know?
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I will. Yeah, we will. I'm just, like, waiting for that two year old to, like, graduate higher, y'all.
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Yeah.
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But I will say that, like, when we're talking about all the things, because we're going to tell you a lot. We got a lot of great listener questions today about just like, what are the fabrics you use? How do we, like, how do we prep for just, like, life and living with our pets? A lot of them. I mean, aside from just like the dog wash and like the litters, it's the same for kids. Like, as far as, just like, the fabrics, you know, like, they're, they're hellions and they. As far as, like, the client of cats, I still have to check, like, the loop. The loop and fabrics for my kids. So anyway, whether you have pets or not, or whether you're just trying to live responsibly, I think there's a lot of tips here for everyone. But specifically, how do we live with our pets? And I'm really, really excited to get into it. So let's do it.
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This, I have to say, this is something that we do almost every day as we're designing for clients. Most of our clients have a pet.
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And why wouldn't you want to?
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I don't know. It kind of feels like this, like, rite of passage. Like, you, you know, you graduate college, you find your person, you get married, you pass go, you get a pet.
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Any of those things, and you haven't hit any of those marks. You're just like, I want someone.
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Actually, you know what?
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You know, this, like, generationally, there's. Everybody has a pet.
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Everybody has an emotional support animal. I know my daughter in college does, and some of her other roommates have them and, like, this has them. Yeah. Oh, it's true. The dentist does have dogs to come lay on. You just make sure you're doing while you're getting your cavity.
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That's a thing.
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah.
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Pediatricians. Yeah, Just. Yeah, Help kiddos.
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Yeah, totally. They're everywhere. Yeah, everywhere they are. And we love, we just, we love our pets so much. So we want to talk about how to live with pets today. And yeah, like sue said, really great listener questions came in. From the best textiles to the best Flooring and rugs, where to hide those litter boxes, how to maintain and clean floors. So we're going to get into it. So the first question is, what do you wish that you would have done for your pets and what are you doing for your clients?
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Yeah, go to.
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To the list to you guys. You have pets. What do you wish that you had done for your pets? And then we'll go into what we're doing for our clients.
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When I was building my home is it should go first.
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Yeah, please.
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I wish I would have considered their lifestyle a little bit more in the planning of, like, where I put what. Because when we got heat maps. Yeah, exactly. When we got especially we got two cats, then it was like, okay, wow, we really need to, like, have like, a space for them. So we ended up, like, clearing out, like, underneath our stairs and turning that. And I wish I would have, like, either put a doggied or, you know, cat entrance into that room or whatever, because now I've had to cut out some of the door and I, like, reframed it to make sure that they can get in so we don't have to leave that door open all of the time. And it could kind of be their own. Their own little thing. So I wish I would have done stuff like that. Just considered the way that my pets will live in the house as well, you know. So.
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Yeah, that's a great one for. For Lady Bennett. We. She's such a wuss, you guys. She's a King Charles Cavalier spaniel. And I think we got the run and she's just so submissive. We had the same breed of dog before this, a boy dog named Jimmy. And he was still really tender and so loving. They're so, so loving. But lady is just so, such a wuss. She's so submissive. And so when we would take her to the groomer, you would have think something really bad happened to her while she was away. Like she was not okay for a while. And Adam was like, I can't do that to her anymore. She hates it. So Adam has taken it upon himself to now groom the dog. And I wish so badly when I see the client's homes that we're doing that, I would have known fast forward into the future that this was the dog we were going to get because this was Once we had gotten to the house, Jimmy died. And then we quickly after that got Lady. I wish so bad I had a dog bath in the house because poor Adam, the things he has to do to get ready so that he can Clip the dog, you know, bathe the dog. Blow out the dog. And then he's hurting his back to do it. And it's just. You need to be able to have them up on a comfortable kind of table height. And he's building up a situation inside of our bathtub because hair is going everywhere. Right.
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And water and. Yeah, yeah.
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You want to corral it. And so we wanted to share with you guys today some of the beautiful plans and things that we've built for clients so that you can see it if you're watching this on YouTube or if not, we're going to describe for you what we've done to make these great. These great dog baths. Yeah.
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Okay. All right. And just. We're going to get into this, but I just want. When you were talking about Adam, you guys, Adam is just his husband. He is a zoologist major. Like, that's what he studied. And he, like, whispers to, like, all animals, but specifically, I mean, your dogs. Like, he's a dog whisperer.
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Yes.
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And he, like, loves them so much, which I think is just like, I'll tell you, like, all of our clients, you have a love for animals. That's why you have them. So.
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Yep. It's so true. Yeah. He'll tell you what she's thinking, how she's feeling. Feeling all the things about Lady Bennett. He just knows. So, okay, the dog washes.
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Let's talk about dog washes. Let's start with, like, we're going to go back in time. I think the first one that we ever did was Rachel Parcels dog wash. And she has a dog Dash. Correct.
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Yes.
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And he is so beautiful. He's a.
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He's a lab.
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He's a white lab. It's like this, like, English breed or something. Anyway, beautiful bigger dog. But in her mudroom, she has, like this really kind of linear mud room where she has, like a bench. She has kids lockers. She has a washer and dryer. But they did need a spot to put. To be able to wash their dog. I could. I mean, for a kid. Can you imagine? I would 100 use this on Manolo and.
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Totally. Yeah.
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Anyway, so muddy boots, they're coming in from playing on the neighbor's farm, talking to the cows. This would be so handy. Even guys, I'm holding up a picture right now of. So this is a dog sort of shower bath on the ground. Because the lab is so big, like, Rachel wouldn't be able to lift it up onto a higher platform. Um, the smaller dogs, we do a dog bath that's elevated, but this one is down on the ground, I think. So nice for like photo shoots and because she is making so much content bringing fresh flowers in and getting to cut those off, you know, in their drain them, shower them. This is just such a nice idea. Even not for a dog. Yeah, right.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, like you said, come in with your muddy boots. You can throw them there to rinse them off and then down the drain rather than like all over your floor or rug or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
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It looks so beautiful for everybody listening. Describe what they're. Describe what we're showing them right now.
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Okay, so this is. I imagine this is probably like a 3 by 5 or so area in her mudroom. And it's all tiled. So you have like two walls on each side that are full tiled. And this is going beyond. So probably about like 42 because you have like your countertop that's running into it, but about a 42 inch high wing walls on this dog wash to totally contain the mess and to have his own situation. Right.
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And there's like a curb on the front that's been tiled so that the water doesn't go out into the.
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I feel like for your dog, it's not a time to do a curbless situation. You'll want a curb.
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Yeah.
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Hop over. So do a curb. Um, but it's just this like beautiful watery, like truly Rachel, you know, French blue colorway of this watery tile that's just like blastering the whole thing. And it's beautiful. We did this little penny tile at the bottom, you know, where you fill the drain. And we did, um. I will say with different dog washes that we've done, it's really important to like on site we can draw where we want the faucet, you know, and that spout to come out. But we always like do a site visit when they're doing that just because, like I want the dog there. I want them to be bendy. I want them to know how that feels or, you know, while, you know, just so that they're not living with a mistake of like what looked good on cat. Yeah, this is a very personal.
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The hardware. The hardware is important. It is having that extension where they can like pull it down and. Yeah. Wash their animal off.
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Yeah, we've had some where we've like drawn it in centered. But like when we get them there and the dogs there, we actually want it in the corner because the dog is all over the place and we just need it to be not in the way you know when we're trying to wash them. So Rachel's is one of the first ones that we did and I. The most recent one that we did was for our Manchester house. This is down in St. George, and they have a beautiful. It's a poodle blend. The cutest dog. I think I even took a video of the dog during the install, and I'm like, tom, when we get a dog like this, I want this breed.
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This is the dog.
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This is the breeder. Such a lovely dog. And it was really important to our client to kind of, like, create a space, you know, that was, like, lovely for her. Her to use, but for her dog also, like, this is, like, their spot. And so this is their laundry room in the Manchester house. So we do have a washer and dryer. We have spots for the kids. We have an island for her to do all the other laundering and everything. But Tilly gets a lot of this space. We have a full sink, but then we want to also do a dog wash. And ironically, we had drawn this the first time all the way down to the floor, similar to Rachel Parcell's, because, like, it's not a small dog. Like, a little bit more medium, medium to large. But she wanted the dog, like, she's like, when I'm washing the dog, I actually. As they were framing it, she's like, we actually want to sit a little bit higher. So it became a little bit of a design build. So do keep that in mind. And Jess is holding up a picture right now of showing, like, the actual everything being framed out and how that was raised and the dog sitting on top. Yeah.
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Oh, I was just gonna say I love how next to. So in the picture that just is showing, it has, like, a little archway, and that looks like it goes out to, like, a doggy door. So there's, like, a little doggy vestibule.
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Yes.
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It's amazing.
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Smart.
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Ever.
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So this is, like, it goes out to their backyard, and we wanted the dog to be able to have an entrance that came into his mudroom. This is Tilly's mudroom, essentially. And so it goes straight from the exterior to the interior, and we were able to tile the entire thing. So the actual dog wash, where it dips down just like in Rachel's. But this one, again, is elevated, and she says it's so comfortable to wash her dog now. And it's not. You're not breaking your back or anything. So I think it's, like, it's really smart. The dog door is brilliant. She lives in and like, obviously on the exterior there is a. I can't remember what the builder installed, but there's so many different types of doors. Yeah, there's ones that are like, you know, remote automated and like, there's so many cool things that you can do. They live in a pretty warm environment, so I don't think they did anything too crazy fancy.
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If I was going to do it again, having a doggy door that is not in a door, like you cut out a panel of a door to put in a doggy door. I would do it in the wall somewhere so they just have their own access.
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It's like you're tripping all over them, right?
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Yeah, yeah. And like imagine. And then you don't have to like ruin a door because not every dog door is the same. And, you know, maybe you'd have to like cut halfway into a panel and kind of, you know, ruin that entire door. Just to put a doggy door in, I'd put it in the wall. It can be done after the fact. It doesn't have to be done like before building. You just have to find the right spot. That's in between exterior access, obviously. And Endura flap makes a really good one. E N D U R A.
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That's great.
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Endura flap. Yeah, got it.
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That's so good to know. And it validates a job that we're doing in Boston. They have a dog that Finn. We're always like fin testing everything. And the dog door, like we have, we have like the basement exit like into their little courtyards because it's this beautiful brownstone. But we didn't want to put it in the door for that very reason. We're just like the traffic was like too much for the dog and it'd be crossing too many beautiful things. So we like did do it like between two studs underneath a window and like a little bay nearby so that he can like easily get in and out and anyway, so. Yeah, very smart.
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Yeah.
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So that in mind.
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That's great advice. But yeah, that's great. So the dog bath and the dog door entrance. Just like Tilly. Right.
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Because you should be watching this on Spotify or YouTube because these pictures are beautiful. This is one of my favorite photo shoots because.
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Very well thought out.
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Such a good puppy. Such a good puppy. You can see exactly like how the dog wash sits in front of a massive bank of windows that overlooks her backyard and her pool and everything until he has her own mud room.
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Yeah. And how nice that you can just wash them off at home because dogs just, they love rolling and stuff, don't they? Oh yeah, they enjoy that.
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And like to Adam's point, that's like more comfortable for them to be like washed at home than like taken somewhere. If that's your thing. That's. Yeah, that's totally fine.
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You could still take them somewhere once a month, but they just get into all sorts of riff raff that you do need a place that's going to be comfortable for you and for them and have all their stuff there.
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So true.
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And they, they love your smells and they trust you and it's just a better experience for them. So working in the dog bath into your, into your plans, whether it's a remodel or a new build, has been something that's been really popular for the work that we're doing.
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Yep.
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Yeah. And elevating it if you have a medium to small dog is going to be a lot more comfortable for you as a human to not have to be doing the back breaking work of bending over.
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I would say the investment isn't like too large either. Especially because like I think the investment of just owning a dog in, in itself like, you know, or, or a cat for that, for that matter is like, is not inexpensive. So yeah, like putting in, if you're in the construction process, putting in, you know, another like faucet and drain and, and tiling a dog wash I don't think is going to be a crazy investment.
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Yeah. And we talk a lot about memory points. Like when you're like building a house for you or like in the future, who knows, you could possibly resell it and move to Dubai. I don't know. But that dog wash would be a memory point for me. I'd be like, I don't even have a dog, but I'm gonna get a dog because they had a dog wash. And like I have to have that photo moment because that's beautiful.
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So.
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Yeah, I love that.
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So good. Yeah. So that would probably be my biggest regret. You asked what do I wish I would have done for my pets? I wish I had both a dog door and a dog wash. Yeah. Because I am the one. I mean, if I'm home or in the morning where the dog wants to go out and then are you waiting for them while they're out? Because otherwise they're scratching your newly painted door. Am I right? And so then you're like trying to jam your door to leave it open so the dog can come in. They have to get up and go shut it. And you're kind of just a prisoner to these routines. And if they have to go in the middle of the day and you're gone and I don't know, I just, I wish so bad I had thought of that. I guess I can do it aftermarket because I don't have to drill cut into a door.
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Yeah, you just gotta find a spot. Find. Yeah, spot for it.
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But yeah, that's great.
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I would imagine even if I just for the dog wash. Because I'm like, say I live in a small home. But like, yes, we have winters and stuff. I imagine even if you like created a small pad outside next to your. Something like near like where like you could create something like this for yourself if you're doing this aftermarket or even.
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Put a warm water, like we have a warm water thing in our, like our exterior for like washing our cars and stuff in the winter.
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I have that too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So you can build a cute situation outside.
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Definitely.
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Yeah. Weather permits.
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Let's get into best textiles for pets. I know this is something that you guys have to do really often in the design center because. Well, and also, like, you were saying that. Yeah, it's kids. I mean, you have three puppies if you're, you know, your little boys. Yeah. And so we live in a great day and age today where we have solution dyed acrylics, we have velvet that are indoor, outdoor. There's really no reason why you can't get a look and still have it. Be really scrubbable and hard wearing for those pets and kids.
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Exactly. And it's. It's interesting because on. In any project, any project, we. I think everybody just wants to be more relaxed, and we want to be able to live in our interiors. And so whether you. And even people that don't have kids or pets, they just don't want to have to worry about it. And so that's where performance fabrics come in. And specifically, like, within performance fabrics is really studying the weave of the fabric, getting samples from your designers or ordering it from the place that you're going to be buying furniture from and doing a little bit of testing. We've done some funny things to fabrics. Like, we've sent them to clients so they can like, have their cats and dogs just, like, have their way with them and be like, okay, been approved. Like, he didn't loop anything. So specifically, like, if they still have, you know, they're not declared or anything, they have their claws. It's the loop that is the biggest offender.
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Yeah.
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I think in any fabrics. And that goes for kids, that goes for pets. Anytime that you have, like, a loose loop that it's beautiful, it's textural, anything like that, that is something that a cat will just, like, love.
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Totally.
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A
Just claw it. That's something that dogs will love to clot. And it's interesting. Every client has pets that have different loves. Like, I have one client that, like, he loves velvets. Like, specifically, he'll attack velvets. So I know not to use velvets. We're doing, like, solely really, like, really tight wovens in there that don't have a loop, that aren't too fuzzy because he just, like, just gets in there and just, like, really. So understand your pet, understand your kids, understand what is their love language? And, like, how can you live and work around that so that you can still have beautiful furniture at the end of the day and live beautifully?
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C
So my. My cats love, like, scratching on a woven. Because it's like pulling against their claws, you know? So we. Our dining chairs are interwoven, so we have, like, a. Just a little, like, tiny scratching pose for them that's kind of adjacent to the dining room. And that's actually helped a ton. Just so they kind of go to that distraction. Yeah, exactly. Like squirrel, you know, so. Yeah, that's been the way that we've kind of combated that a little bit. They still do scratch on the chairs every once in a while. We try to get that in front of them, like, before they do, just kind of teach them. This is. This is the thing to do, you know?
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B
Yeah.
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A
We had another client that had two Savannah cats. Cats. And like, that. Those cats were like, the. This family's world. Okay. So, like, they're. And they're clean, and they're beautiful, and they are just like. I feel. Do you remember that scene in lady and the Tramp with the two Siamese cats? They were naughty. They remind me of that. But they're nice.
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C
Yeah.
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A
You know, where they're just, like, prancing and they're just, like, slowly, like, slightly hoppy on. They're so quiet. You're just like, oh, my gosh. It's just. It's right there. Yeah, it's right there.
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B
But they're like tiny exotic animals.
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A
Their striping is stunning.
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B
They're so beautiful. Yeah.
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A
If I got a cat, I'd want.
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B
I want a Savannah cat. Yeah. They're so, so pretty.
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A
Yeah. But they had, like, after we installed everything, we went back and they had put, like, all their, like, cat trees and things just, like. And it felt, like, really natural to the environment. It wasn't. I feel like they're doing a better job, too, with a lot of those, like, animal accessories.
- [24:34]
C
Yeah. They're not just like, a slab of carpet.
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A
It's not, like, bright green anymore, you know?
- [24:38]
C
And anyway, so, Jess, we've been getting a ton of questions on who makes your glasses.
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B
Oh, really?
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C
Yeah.
- [24:46]
B
Oh, my gosh.
- [24:46]
C
Everyone wants to know, you guys.
- [24:47]
B
I. So I'm at this age now where my near vision is leaving me. You're not quite as old as I am. Yeah, but, sue, you're experiencing this 40 hit.
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A
And, like, yeah, I need to make glasses before, but I really, really need them now.
- [25:01]
B
Yeah. Between 40 and 45, that cell phone type gets really tiny. So I was in search for the perfect pair of readers, and I tried look optic, and I have to say, I've loved them so much that I've actually began working with them a little Bit as an advisor and my dad's an eye doctor, my brother in law is. I really, really love eyewear and it's been really fun to be back in the game. And I love the readers. I love the fashion frames. It's not a pair of frames that looks like I'm wearing something made for men. You know those readers when you go to Walgreens or, or when you go to the grocery store or somewhere. And they're just like a three pack and they all look like they were made for men. Look Optic actually has really cute FR are made for women.
- [25:43]
A
Especially for again, those ones that look like men's. They look like a giant man on my little head.
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B
Yes. Suzanne Small. Suzanne has a child siiz head. And they actually have minis at Look Optic. The Diane Keaton collection. I gave you all my Diane Keaton ones.
- [25:58]
A
I love the Diane Keaton collection. They fit my, like, head great. They're comfortable. They have the cutest colors. Like some of them are matte. They have the bone ones. I love them so much.
- [26:06]
B
Yeah, they're cute. And one of, one of my little, like, fast passes that I want to tell everybody is that if you do the progressive lens, it's clear up top, you just get magnification in the bottom where you need it. Cause that's how you're looking in a cell phone or you're reading paper down here or you're on your laptop. You don't need magnification out the top because that's going to make your eyeballs look huge.
- [26:26]
C
Yeah.
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B
And then you really look like you're wearing a reader. So we're trying to like keep this low profile. And so I always go with the progressive. My favorite styles, I really love the Laurel. And they have this cool one that's like the Muse. It kind of looks like a 70s update. It's cool. They have one with the pink lens too. In fact, my daughter stole that one from me. It's great. Anyway, there's something they. They have one called Evita that's kind of a cat eye. Anyway, you guys can discover your own styles. But I will say Look Optic has been such a gateway for me as I've needed to jump into that reader category.
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C
And they Look Optic is going to give away 50 pairs of readers to the first 50 of our listeners. Yes, that. Text Alice to 21252. So text Alice A, L, I, C E to the number 21252. And then for if you're an existing customer or you want to purchase classes after that go to lookoptic.com and use the code ALICE15 and you'll get 15% off.
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A
That's amazing.
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B
Yeah, Go make that happen.
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A
I would suggest just looking for like the best looking of any of those things and putting it nearby where they're on their heat map. Right. Where they're automatically going in and out of so they don't attack your stuff.
- [27:43]
C
So true.
- [27:44]
B
Also, if you do inherit a pet, like I did with my daughter that really wanted a cat. Yeah. And you've already made all these decisions about your furniture. One of the things that we've done is we also got like a scratching post near our bank at the cat, for some reason just loves. It's like this beautiful knit fabric on the back of my banquet. As soon as he starts going for that, we pick him up and put him on the scratching post and let him have his way. But we also got these big plastic clear shields that you pull the backing off. It's like, it's like a giant sticker that's like a clear shield. And we just put it in a few of the key spots where we know that he loves. So he can't. He can't even get to the fabric and then he's cured. So you might just want to like, like legitimately laminate your furniture in just a few spots. There's like the end of our Gwen Day bed I have in my living room where I just put two of those on the end because he loved that end cap. And now he doesn't even go near it. And I've taken the shields off, you know, like. But I probably had him up there for a year, six months. I forgot about them, honestly, because they're clear. But then if company's coming over or you're going to be shooting something, you're like, oh, my gosh, I forgot. I forgot. I've got these. Yeah. I've kitty proofed my house. So you can do that while you're sort of training your cat not to be so excited about plucking your furniture. Yeah, that works too.
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A
Yeah, Look. Look for tight weaves that just like. You can't like catch it with a claw or with your own nail. Just play with it.
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B
Oh, you know what else works? Jane buys nail caps.
- [29:18]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [29:18]
B
On Amazon. And it comes with a little adhesive. You put a little dot of the glue in there and then you just put these plastic. Yeah. It's almost like you can buy them in any color. So Art, because he's a boy, she got him black, but he has these big black plastic cloth, so he can't even claw anything at all. They do come off, so you have to put them on again after about two weeks. So that also helps if they're in a spell of really wanting to pluck your things.
- [29:42]
C
We've used those, too. Yeah. And they work great. It is just like, you have to do it every. Yeah. They're called kitty caps.
- [29:48]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [29:48]
A
That's really cute.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And it is just like how you have to reapply because they'll bite them off and all that stuff. But the adhesive works really good for, like, you said, like, a week to two weeks.
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B
Yeah. Because I think most people probably already have their house and their furniture, and then they bring the pet into it, and they're like, ah, what do I do? If you're building a new home, then obviously some of these solutions are. Are helpful for that in choosing the right fabrics, the tight weaves, all of that. Yeah.
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A
Performance fabrics. Things that are just easily to wash and clean.
- [30:17]
B
Yeah.
- [30:18]
A
Okay, guys. Best type of flooring and rugs for pets.
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C
I would say hardwood is just. Yeah.
- [30:28]
B
You have a Great Dane, too, so I'm gonna. I'm listening to this.
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C
I am. I'm not for. LVP is not my thing. Yeah. I hate the way that it sounds. It's actually more of, like, an oral thing for me. I don't like that. Mari wishes we would have done LVP because, like, engineered hardwood scratches. So the advice I would give is a. Just live with the wear and tear that comes with it. I kind of like that if, you know, feels lived in or get an engineered hardwood that's like 3 millimeter thick, so you. At some point, you could sand down and refinish or do the sand and finish hardwood floor to start. That can obviously be redone multiple times. My. My dad has had done that with a dog. They had cypress floors, which is kind of. It's a hardwood, but it's like a softer of a hardwood. So there were just like, claw marks and traffic patterns just through the whole thing. And then. Yeah. You know, once his dog passed away, she only lived for, like, eight years. He just had the whole thing, like, refinished and redone. So I think those are a couple of your options. I've kind of just taken the mindset of, like, it's going to be what it is. We're going to get kind of scratches and just imperfections in it. But I'm okay with that because I would rather have. Have the real, like, wood on there than an lvp.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I imagine too, like when we are selecting this and I know that they have pets and things when you find like an engine, we do engineered wood a lot and we try and do a high end one that does have a thicker base. Right. But anything that like can kind of show the grain in it already and not be completely smooth, I think is a lot more forgiving than something that's completely smooth.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Now with any sanding, like when you sand it, refinish it, you lose that. But maybe during the season of just like a lot of wear and tear and like claws and all those things, I think it that does like, hold up more than something that's just like a beautiful smooth finish. It'll feel like a little bit more rusticated. And I'm not talking about hand planing. I'm just talking about where they pull the grain out and you feel that.
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C
So has like a deeper grain, like an oak or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
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A
And it's a tighter grain too. So again, you'll see less of those just like puppy prints. Because you. Again, we talked about before your Brazilian cherry.
- [32:37]
B
Yes. So in my. Yes. In my Farmington home, it was on a street called Alice Lane, we had Brazilian cherry floors which were really, really dark and kind of mahogany in color. And lady, or sorry, Jimmy, our first dog, was a puppy there and he would go outside to go potty and then come back in and it was little footprints everywhere. I mopped this house for a living. I felt like I was a slave to it. And we've been in kind of this beautiful grace period where ever since the dark woods, then we went into this white oak phase where all of the floors have been light and blonde for so long and so forgiving. And it's kind of like a black car. Nothing's prettier on the showroom. But once you take it out of the showroom and you drive it and everything, it just shows everything. So your darker floors, which we're starting to trend more into, those warmer, darker finishes are starting come back. If you have a pet, I would consider not going any darker than a medium stain because you're really going to have to keep up depending on what your yard's like and how they're using the bathroom and you know how much dirt is in the backyard or if it's all lawn or whatnot, you're really. Those little paw prints are going to show up in a big way.
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A
So leave the dark finishes for your case goods.
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B
Yes. Or rugs or you can get some of the depth in, in other ways. But yeah, I think those, I think walnut is just always a classic wood floor. Always, always. And just going with a more medium stain will be a little more forgiving.
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A
One thing that we're doing for the house in Boston with, again, since oak has a tighter grain, we're doing an oak and it's an engineered wood floor that is thicker that you lay and you stain it on site.
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B
Nice.
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A
We're doing the oak but then stained to a walnut finish. So it does have a little more historic history, historic feeling to it, but it has the grain that'll be a little more. So smart, say for work life.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Okay. And for like rugs and stuff, I would say like natural material, like a wool that is going to clean up really well. And from my experience, something that's not. We always had honestly the hardest time like cleaning and keeping nice like our power loom drug. So something that you know is, is hand done that you know that you're shearing anyway. That's always been nice, nicer for us and has kind of kept, kind of kept looking good for longer, if that makes sense.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And honestly, I know that there's so many different solutions out there in washable rugs and all those things. I think if you're listening to this podcast, you like lovely things and like we, we again, we're always gonna like have the bible of hand knotted rugs. I really do believe in hand knotted rugs. Just because again, you can have them professionally cleaned. You can. If it is like 100 wool, it is easy to spot that. I think that the fact that it doesn't have like a synthetic backing or anything on it, all that goes through it. So yes, like something might happen, but it doesn't like stay. It doesn't live there and it releases and then you can have it laundered. You know, like, it's the same thing with kids. Like, I every so often I just have to like take my rugs in or have my rug cleaner come out and just like clean them all. And that's just part of living with beautiful things. But the fact that I've had the same hand knotted rugs forever. You've had the same handout or through two dogs and you just get them clean. I think it's, it's beautiful.
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B
I still love them.
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A
Yeah. I'm like, there's some, there's an energy to it and it's sustainable. Like you're not like, we have clients, they're just like, nope, Just like get the cheap one, something will happen. We'll roll it up, throw it away, get a new one. And that feels really responsible to me. Say it out loud right now. That I do think that by buying beautiful and buying something that is long lasting, like a hand knotted rug in 100 wool will be your friend forever and always through kids, through pets, through life.
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B
Cheers. Yeah, totally agree. Where to hide the litter box?
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C
See this, this was my issue that I was talking about. Like, so we had, we had a spare bathroom that we didn't need when we first moved into our home. So we called it Larry's bathroom. And that's where we kept the litter box. And I hated it because anytime you go in there to like clean or what, like you're stepping on kitty litter.
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A
That's gross.
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C
Yeah, that is gross. So when we moved everything to under the stairs, we just kind of. Yeah, I, I could do this myself, but I cut out the bottom like rail in the door and then like reframed it so it looks finished and that's where they can go in and out of it and that's where the litter box is. And again, it's a door shut to it and it's a deep enough room to where they're not bringing litter into the rest of the house. So I wish I would have been a little bit more thoughtful. Is like where we are going to put that. Because if you're putting it in, I would never put in your kitchen or like pantry or anything like that just because of like where, what the flooring is there, you know, it's typically hardwood or something like that. I would, I would never do that. So just being thoughtful about like where that's going to be or how your pet's gonna live in your home, I think that's, that's crucial. And, and yeah, so that's kind of like what we've done is kind of put it back in its thing. And yeah, so it's interesting.
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A
We have a client in our lovers lane project and they had a really lovely again of doodle of sorts. And on out you have like their exterior entry for their mudroom and then they have like their back stairway. And they occupied that space underneath the stairs to be what they called, they tiled it and everything. It's called the doghouse. It's for their dog, but I think for like their cat. Same idea, right? Like if you did have that spot, I'm like that's, it's kind of like this waste of space. If you can use that cavity for A spot like this, you know, to keep like litter box their food like have. And they did do kind of like a half door so that they could like look in, see like if anybody was in there. But also just like to be able to contain it when people are like you're entertaining and whatnot. Like it was brilliant. And like that's such a smart like way to allocate that space that would be not used, you know, because the.
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C
Pets are not caring about eight foot ceilings.
- [38:33]
A
Yeah, they don't care.
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C
They love it.
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B
They love cozy and they. And that room is tiled. Their dog house room. So just easy, you know, to clean out.
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C
That's rad.
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A
Yeah, they have like, they have. It's kind of like a luxury kennel.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know. Well and you know dogs are wearing.
- [38:50]
B
A fur coat and so they the bigger the dog too. They really like sleeping in their kennels or on cold floors because they just get so hot and they want to be able to cool down. So those tiles floors are the most comfortable for them. Just lay on their tummy and I mean you can imagine on a summer day wearing a fur coat running around Dallas.
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C
Yeah.
- [39:10]
B
And you have to use the bathroom outside if you're a dog, you know. So I do think a tile floor is a really nice solution for where the dogs can, can sleep. And if they're not sleeping in your bed like me. Don't. Don't do it guys.
- [39:22]
C
Don't even start it.
- [39:23]
B
Yeah, that's great. Okay. How to maintain and clean floors and rugs. Do you guys have experience with that?
- [39:32]
C
I think it kind of just. That's changing your expectation like I said before is just. Just knowing what your lifestyle is and just being okay with that. I understand it is hard and I have my little like, you know, kind of like fits inside of my own head with it sometimes. But then I just take a breath. It's like hey, this is just, this is having kids, this is having pets. That's what it is. There's going to be little paw prints and you know, footprints everywhere and. Yeah, you just. I. I've just, I've just taken the approach of like learn to love the. The moment in life that I am in season. Yeah. And. And just be okay with that. But as far as like we're constantly cleaning our hardware forth. Mari is constantly cleaning our hardware floors. So she does such a great job with that. But she probably feels like you digest you. That's like her part time job. Job. Yeah, she'd probably say that. So it's it's just really just doing. Doing it as much as you're comfortable with and as much as you can tolerate. The master can't tolerate the mist.
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B
So, yeah, definitely one thing that Adam, the zoologist, does for Lady Minute. If there is an accident, like, let's just say we're at work too late and she couldn't hold it anymore. We don't have that dog door. Shame on us. Adam has found that he uses our Bissell cleaner, and he doesn't put soap in it. He doesn't use the solutions. He just uses hot water. He cleans up the mess the best he can. And then once that's really clean, then he goes over that for suctioning to get the water circulating through it. And he just goes over and over and over again until the water runs clear. Because what he's found is that the soaps in it are what stays in the fiber, and then that attracts the dirt, and that's what actually discolors the rug.
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C
So it leaves like a. Like a. Like a film.
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A
Yeah.
- [41:19]
C
In it as well. So. Yeah, we've done the same thing. We don't use the solution.
- [41:23]
B
Yeah.
- [41:23]
C
Yeah. Better. It's been worked better for us to not.
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B
Yeah. And one other thing that has been interesting is we went through a little phase with our cat where he did not like his litter box. And he went about showing us that he didn't like it by. By. Yes. Using the bathroom on our sectional in the basement. And we were like, what is going on? And after a lot of googling and researching, he's trying to send us a message that he doesn't like his litter bo box. So we had to go about changing out the litter boxes. And that section on the basement was linen. It was not synthetic. It was not. What do you call it when they've been sprayed with those hydrophobic. Hydrophobic sprays or whatnot. It just wasn't. Anyway, what we learned, though, was that we could zip off all the cushion covers. We laundered them in our own washer machine just on cold and gentle. After we scrubbed them out and then just line dried and pulled them back on. And the natural fibers actually held up really great. It washed up beautifully. I feel like I have an. A new sectional. The cat has a litter box he likes now, and all is well in our kingdom. But it is. It's interesting how our pets can send us message. Also interesting that these natural fibers can really hold up your linens, your wools. You know, some of those things people.
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A
Give them credit for.
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B
Yeah. So don't.
- [42:36]
A
With my kids, I had 100. Remember my 100 cotton.
- [42:39]
B
Yes.
- [42:39]
A
So far it had, like, a texture and it had, like, some weight to. It wasn't just flat, but like that, like, saw a lot. Lot. And it, like, looked beautiful.
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B
Yeah.
- [42:47]
A
So anyway, so don't, Don't.
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B
Don't give up on them.
- [42:50]
A
Yeah.
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B
Get a professional cleaner. Or you can you, if you have a professional machine, like a Bissell or something. But I think that you'll be really surprised at how resilient some of these. These covers are, especially if they're from a nicer, more reputable furniture brand, you know?
- [43:07]
C
Yeah. Check the cleaning code on it, too. Yeah, there's like, a cleaning code for fabric and, like, W is like, washable. Like, put it in. S is like you needing a solvent. Yeah. So. Or dry cleaning. So, yeah, check your. Wherever you purchase the sofa, they'll have that information. But one thing that you said that reminded me is, like, with the litter box, we found that a stainless steel litter box doesn't hold the. The odors in, like, a plastic one.
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A
Okay.
- [43:36]
C
So. So that's. That's what. Yeah, we've. We've loved. And you can clean it out and then it smells fresh again. It's not like it doesn't have, like, lingering odor. So.
- [43:45]
B
Yeah.
- [43:45]
C
Yeah. And they look nicer to me, if I'm being completely honest.
- [43:49]
A
Yeah, I think so, too. I have a question for you both, because I'm like, I have three little dirty boys that, like, they just, like, especially as they get older, they smell. They stink so bad. But. And so I'm like, constantly just like, what. What is my scent? What is the scent? Right.
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B
Yeah.
- [44:03]
A
Are there, like, ways that you guys just, like, I don't know, deter the smell of having pets? We've all gone into homes where they're not really aware of maybe the smell that the pet's giving off.
- [44:13]
B
They've gotten nose Blinds, gotten nose blind.
- [44:15]
A
Like, what do you guys do to, like, keep it. Keep it fresh and. I don't know.
- [44:19]
C
Yeah, we've been.
- [44:20]
A
I think you're both sensitive to, like, smells also, having something beautiful happening in space.
- [44:25]
C
But, yeah, I'm like, I hate bad smell. I mean, no one loves bad smells.
- [44:30]
B
Yeah.
- [44:30]
C
You know what I mean? But I'm very sensitive to it. Like, yeah, my hand. I hate. Don't. I don't like my hands really smelling like anything. So. Yeah. One thing that we've also tried to be in touch with this is not really involved in this podcast, but is just how Like Febreze and stuff like that. There's science out there showing it's, like, affecting, like, your endocrine system and stuff. Living with that. So I try to just. We try to do, like, diffusers and. And candles and stuff like that as much as we can. Just to kind of, like. We do. We would do that anyway without pets, but, yeah, just to kind of. Of we neutralize, like, the area with just, like, something that's killing the bacteria. Yeah. And then to just kind of make things, like, smell nice so it's not smelling, like, cleaner forever. It's just using, like, diffusers and candles and stuff.
- [45:17]
B
And I think emptying that litter box really often. Right.
- [45:21]
C
Mari does it daily.
- [45:23]
B
Yeah.
- [45:23]
C
Which I know that sounds insane to some people, but we have two cats, so.
- [45:27]
B
Yeah, you gotta stay on top of it, I think. I think that's, like. That's the number one thing. And then definitely lysoling, disinfecting, all of that, if you really care. Because if you let things go too long, that's. I believe why Tokyo kind of misbehaved was because his litter box. He has two of them in the house and the one downstairs. It must have gotten forgotten by my daughter. And then he wanted to make sure we knew. It's interesting how smart they are, though, that they'll tell you something. It's not that he's a bad cat. It's that he was trying to send us a message. And after Adam doing some research, he was like, oh, this is what he's saying. And sure enough, he was right.
- [45:59]
C
100%. Yeah.
- [46:00]
B
Yeah. We switched out litter boxes. We switched out the litter. Like, we really worked hard to make sure that he wasn't like that. We got the message.
- [46:08]
C
Cats are very particular, too. They like. They like. They like what they like, and they want it.
- [46:13]
B
Yeah.
- [46:13]
C
You know what I mean? So if it's like, the. If it's the frequency or the litter. Yeah. They're. They're going to. They're going to send you a message one way or the other. So. Yeah.
- [46:22]
B
Yeah.
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A
This has nothing to do with litter box, but it is something that, like, we recently experienced with my sister. Sister. She's always had a golden retriever. She's had a couple of them, and she has a beautiful. Like, she got a beautiful sectional from us, and her name's Blue. He goes and sits, like, by the window because he wants to see, like, where. Where people are coming and going. And so he goes. He pops right on the back cushion of said beautiful sectional, like, every single day. And that Katie just started, like, she would, like, try and rotate him, but, like, just. I guess just the thought, like, wherever your animals are sitting, just like, you gotta be like, I rotate my cushions every day. I know that sounds like a lot, but I have kids that, like, they're just rough on them, and, like, the more that you can do that, the more beautiful your sofa or your sectional will stay if you are just continually, like, understanding their pattern, seeing where they're sitting, seeing where they're lying, and just making sure you're giving some love to your furniture by flipping and rotating your sofa cushions.
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C
Also, I don't like this when I go over to other people's homes, so I'm, like, very conscious of it. When people come to ours is like, our cats have the same places they'll lay on our sofa. You know, the. Typically on the seat back or whatever. And we try to just vacuum that and. Or use, like, one of those sticky, like, roller things just to get all the hair off because they shed. And we don't want people sitting down on our sofa and leaving with half of our cat when they. When they go. You know what I mean? So, yeah, just everyone's allergic.
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A
It's like, there's always someone that's allergic, and they're like, do you have a cat?
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C
Yeah, exactly. So just kind of doing the best. Again, it's a lot of work, but we do it because we love our animals and. And. And we love our home and our space, so we try to just balance that as much as we can, which is by taking care of it.
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A
So love your animals, love your space.
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B
Yep, that's right. Yes. Well, I hope this answered a lot of the listener questions for you guys. We do love our animals and our space, and we can live together. I think we can find a way to do that beautifully. And there's lots of really great fibers and fabrics and tricks to make for a really, really comfortable life. Really quick, before we go, one. One last thought. Oh, just storage for pets. This is a mud hall, and one of the things that our clients are loving is having storage in the mud hall for the dog food and all the things you want to speak to this image.
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A
This is also in Manchester. Such a great mudroom. It's like beef and not watching. It's like, in this, like, incredible, like, aubergine eggplant color. And we just, like, did full storage from, like, floor to ceiling, side to side, wherever we could. And this is not only is awesome for kids, but she keeps all of her dogs, like, as far as all the leashes, like all their extra food, everything like goes into these like big deep drawers at the bottom of this metal. Anyway, just like the storage capability of understanding your dog, the size of your dog, what the storage needs are just making sure that you're like putting that somewhere. Otherwise it's going to be outside of a cabinet and it's gonna bug you every time you see it.
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B
So like my house, like I did not accommodate for the big huge bag of cat food.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Or the big huge bag of cat litter.
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C
Yeah.
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B
These things are big. Like you need those big deep bottom drawers because they're also really heavy.
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C
Yeah. And you don't want to be lifting them up.
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B
No.
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C
Yeah. So yeah.
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A
Those are such a long home that's being built right now in California. They love their dog too. In their mud room. We did this. We're doing this whole system where there's actually, actually they have refrigerated food for dogs.
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B
Oh, that's what Lady Bennett.
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A
So they're in like, say like you look at that. A couple of those are panels refrigerator drawers for their dogs.
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C
That is legit.
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A
So. And just like as far as pull out trays that they'll most often like leave out, but they can't close them up too within the cabinetry. So there's lots of cool tricks that you can do and we'll post pictures when that's done.
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C
But anyway, then you don't have to have it like either taking up space in your own. Their own refrigerator or like, I mean.
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A
Give them their own fridge.
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C
Yeah. Or like smelling your refrigerator up like. Yeah, yeah. That's just not my thing. I like to keep my food.
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B
Yeah, definitely. I mean, those like farmer's dog subscriptions. It's like you're getting so much food, probably a month's worth, right. That's coming in. You got to put in the freezer and then the fridge. It's a whole rhythm because your dog eats several times a day. So it does make sense why it needs its own fridge. And it's fun to build once you already know your pets and their lifestyle so that you can accommodate for it and everybody can live really comfortably. So consider your kids.
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A
That's for the Capri Suns.
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B
Yes, exactly.
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A
No one's going to be sad about another fridge drawer.
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B
Totally. Yes. So consider your pet's lifestyle in the build. Guys. I hope that this has been a fun listen for you. If you guys have any episode ideas, please feel free to send those to Dear Alice alicelanehome.com and for those of you listening, we have a special code for you if you want to shop our online store, it is alice lanehome.com you can shop all the latest from all the launches that we've been doing. We've brought forth so many really cool products this year and we've always had our clients, our listeners, our lifestyles in mind as we create these products that are missing from the marketplace. So go get yourself something nice. That code is Dear Alice, 20. And you're going to get 20 off your whole purchase. And leave us a five star review if you don't mind. And we'll catch you next time. Hey, thanks for listening. If you like our show, please leave a five star rating.