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Chelsea Handler
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Katherine
Hi, Chelsea. How's New York?
Chelsea Handler
New York City is beautiful. It's beautiful here. It's beautiful. It's a spring day. There's no snow, but everyone's still talking about the snow. But the snow is gone. I did a lot of press yesterday. We're talking about my dating app. That's not a dating app. It's just on my Instagram. But people are calling it a dating app. And was your socials team prepared for this? No. They're never prepared for anything I do. I wasn't even prepared for it. I didn't realize how many DMs were gonna come through. And, you know, that's just me never thinking things through. But I really do wanna let my people Know the people who are listening to this podcast. I am. I really do wanna help people meet each other. And I do wanna find, like, cool men for women to hook up with. Because I do believe they're out there. And many of them are getting divorced or have gotten divorced. So there are good men out there and some of them, you know. But, like, we have to weed through all of this. So I'll be getting updates and I'll be giving updates. I'm not. We're doing it. It's on. So, like, it's happening. I just need a bigger team of people and more of a bandwidth. But I have hooked up, like, two gay guys. I've hooked up two separate gay guys and a straight couple have gone on a date.
Katherine
I mean, you're a regular grinder over here.
Chelsea Handler
So this is happening. It's working. It's just we haven't figured out what the next, you know, formal iteration of my dating service is going to be. And I don't even wanna call it a dating service. Cause I can't commit to doing this. But I am going to try and help anyway. That's what's happening in New York. I'm leaving tomorrow. I have new shows that I'm doing. I've just announced a whole new batch of shows for the second leg of my High and Mighty tour. And I've added second shows. And I am coming to all the cities that I haven't been to yet that you haven't seen. So go to Chelseaandler.com, i'll be in New York, Atlanta, blah, blah, blah, Vancouver. Tons of places. We just announced it. So I'll be performing and touring through the end of the year. So come and see me and go to chelseahandler.com for your tickets for the High and Mighty tour. And then our guest this week is very exciting. Who? You know what? She was real fucking funny. And I didn't know she was gonna be funny.
Katherine
So funny. I was really not expecting that.
Chelsea Handler
Me neither. So you guys are in for a real treat. She's an actress that you know from Daisy Jones and the Six and the Night Manager. You can find her in Netflix's Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen and the Age of Innocence. Please welcome Camila Marrone. Okay, great. Let's go.
Camila Marrone
I see that you wear shoes on your couch.
Chelsea Handler
I don't give a shit what you put on my shoes.
Camila Marrone
I walked in your house and I was like, should I take my shoes off? I'm such a New Yorker. I'm like, do I take my shoes off. What do I do?
Chelsea Handler
Is that a New York? Well, New York is.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, that's like a dead body on the bottom of your.
Chelsea Handler
I honestly don't like when I think about moving to New York, which at some point I will do because I have to live in New York at some point. That's just.
Camila Marrone
Haven't done it.
Chelsea Handler
No. And I'm from New Jersey.
Camila Marrone
Well, now it's my fit. Not like my favorite pastime is, like, converting people. I've like, made it actually. Like, my number's crazy. I'm, like, really good at getting people to move to New York.
Chelsea Handler
Really?
Camila Marrone
And I find it like. Like a weird test.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is a good test.
Camila Marrone
You want to live here?
Chelsea Handler
How long have you lived in New York now?
Camila Marrone
I lived in New York for three years, but I act as if I built the city with my bare hands. I'm like, the Brooklyn Bridge. I did it. I did that.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, so what prompted you to move to New York? Cause you're from la, you grew up here.
Camila Marrone
I'm born and raised in la. I went to school in Santa Monica. I went to school in the Valley. I went to school all over. I went to Beverly Hills. So I had divorced parents that were fighting about where to live. So I've lived everywhere. But then I just felt like, post pandemic, I thought it was. You know, things changed, obviously, in la, and I just thought I. I wanted to do something that I just wanted to, like, wake up and go to the theater if I wanted to, which I don't ever do, but I could do it in theater.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, it's. They're not usually playing in the morning, so.
Camila Marrone
New York is crazy.
Chelsea Handler
You don't know New York. You don't know New York. I'm sure there is some fucking theater
Katherine
that's going to be.
Camila Marrone
I got a little bit, you know, bored of la, and I didn't want to be in the car for so long, and I just was like, I want to maybe go for a walk if I want to go for. I haven't. I didn't recreationally walk in LA in 25 years. I don't think I ever went for, like, a walk. Do.
Chelsea Handler
No, no, I don't walk here. I don't. I don't do anything here because I. I feel I'm with you on the LA thing. Like, I was gonna move to New York, and then I. This house kind of took longer than I anticipated, and so I kind of put a pin in it. But I'm with you about LA is a little, is. It's a little boring.
Camila Marrone
Like everything closes at like 9pm like, what if you want to go to Koreatown at 11:30? Like, I don't do any of it, but I know that it's there. So like I have the option.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, right.
Camila Marrone
But I actually find myself being more fun in New York. I like go to the Comedy Cellar on a random Tuesday night when I can get in and all that. Yeah, that's like fun for me.
Katherine
Are you a subway person?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, I take the train everywhere. I mean, I don't think you. I mean, I get really sick in the back of like Ubers and I hate being schlepped and I hate small talk.
Chelsea Handler
I hate, I hate underground transportation.
Camila Marrone
I'm like the person that all the Uber drivers are like. I'm like, how are you? And they're like, well, actually my wife left me. She's been sleeping with my, my, my best friend for 35 years. And I found out yesterday I'm in the back, like being shoved around Manhattan, like about to throw up in the back of a car. So the train.
Caitlin (Caller)
Yeah, great.
Chelsea Handler
I don't like underground transportation. There's something about that smell that I can't get past. I'm very sensitive to.
Camila Marrone
Some of the trains are very clean.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, well, I believe you, but I probably won't find out about it.
Camila Marrone
I don't think you need to. You can sell this house and never take a train again. You'd be fine.
Chelsea Handler
Or take trains for the rest of my life, depending on how that goes. Wait. First of all, I can't stop looking at your eyebrows because they are so perfectly coiffed, if you will. And do you use anything for your eyebrows? Cause my makeup artist did it to me yesterday and I had eyebrows yesterday. Like I had never had it before. They were sticking up kind of like yours and combed. And I loved it.
Camila Marrone
I've actually never. The one thing that I listened to my mother, two things, she was like, don't ever get a tattoo. Cuz she's had to get all her hers removed, her tramp stamp removed. And then she was like, don't ever touch your eyebrows. And when I was a teenager, you know, like it was like cool to do the 90s brow. And it's the only thing that I actually listened to her that now I'm like kind of grateful that I didn't do. But I've never touched them. I've never waxed or done anything.
Chelsea Handler
So what do you do to brush them like that?
Camila Marrone
I just. Yeah, I brush them.
Chelsea Handler
They look good. They look really good.
Camila Marrone
You know, I have to embrace it.
Chelsea Handler
I will. You're Argentine, right?
Camila Marrone
Yes.
Chelsea Handler
And is that the proper way to say Argentinian? Argentina?
Camila Marrone
I actually don't know Argentinian. Argentine.
Chelsea Handler
I was told it was Argentine, but I would.
Camila Marrone
I mean, you should find out I'm Argentinian. I'll ask.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, yeah, yeah, please. Because I'd like to say it correctly. Well, especially if you're not from there. I want to pay with like the right amount of respect.
Camila Marrone
Argentine or Argentinian has to be politically correct, right?
Chelsea Handler
You speak Spanish?
Camila Marrone
Yes.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah. Okay. And both of your parents are Argentinian or Argentine?
Camila Marrone
Yes, or Argentine or Argentex. I don't know what it is. My mom and dad are. It's actually a funny story. They're both from Buenos Aires in Argentina and they met at a club called Tequila. That is still a club. And my mom, mom was 19 and her family were like all lawyers and politicians and worked for the president. My dad was a 27 year old male supermodel named Maximo Morrone. And she was like, I'm going to move to Paris with Maximo and we're going to make love and have babies. And then like very shortly after, they very much did make love and have a baby. And I'm that baby and you're that baby. That's the only baby they ever had.
Chelsea Handler
And then what happened?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, I mean, what do you think happened? I met at a club called Tequila and there was a divorce about seven years after because of Tequila.
Chelsea Handler
Which is why, well, who knows what
Camila Marrone
was a part of that divorce?
Chelsea Handler
So you bounced around a lot between your mom and your dad in Los Angeles. And how was that?
Camila Marrone
I mean, I hated it. Like, I had to pack a little doggy bag every week and like bring all my schoolwork and all my, you know, like my makeup that my mom let me use, my dad wouldn't let me. I mean, just like typical child of divorce parents stuff. But I got to live all over la. I mean, they were like, my dad was like, I want to surf in Santa Monica. My mom's like, I live in the Valley. So like the only person that gets like fucked in that one, sitting in a. I was like, I never want to sit on a freeway ever again.
Caitlin (Caller)
But.
Camila Marrone
But this freeway that we actually just passed me here, that was my freeway. I know that freeway very well.
Chelsea Handler
Were you triggered?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, I called my therapist immediately.
Chelsea Handler
What are there, but aren't there some advantages to having divorced parents? Like, can't you play them off of each other and kind of use that to your advantage in some regard?
Camila Marrone
Not in the slightest, because they talk about everything. That's the worst part about having parents who, like, got along after their divorce or, like, sometimes got along. Because my mom would, like, fact check and be like, is it true that she said that you can do this and, like, at your house and whatnot? So. No. No.
Lee (Caller)
Okay.
Camila Marrone
Well, there was no advantage.
Chelsea Handler
There was no advantage.
Camila Marrone
Maybe, like, crying easier in a movie set when I, like, have to think about my trauma, but that's pretty much it.
Chelsea Handler
And what about growing up in Los Angeles? How did that inform your life? And, I mean, you. You dropped out of school, high school, at 15, right?
Camila Marrone
I mean, I went to independent studies. I got my ged, and I studied at, like, independent studies, which was basically my way out of being like, I'm a working actor. I was not a working actor yet, but I was modeling then, and I got to do, like, home study, where you, like, bring your work to school, you kind of Google the answers, and then you, like, send. And I still got to graduate my class and, like, throw my cap and gown and all that. But, I mean, growing up in la, I mean, I guess you don't realize. Like, last night I was driving through Beverly Hills and I was showing someone. I was like, oh, my God, that was like my Rite Aid, and that was my Mulberry's pizza, and that was my Chipotle. He's like, that's insane. That Beverly Hills was like, your Chipotle pizza, your Chipotle, and your pizza shop. Like, that's not normal. Yeah, like, that's insane. Even when I call Verizon and I'm, like, giving them my zip code, they're like, 90210, like, the show, I'm like, it doesn't feel like that when you're from here. But I guess it really was that to the rest of the world.
Chelsea Handler
I always find that my girlfriends that grew up in LA have their frame of reference, and their reality is so far afield from what's happening in the rest of the world. Especially when you grow up in a 90210 area code and you don't leave. It's so nice to hear that you left because you have to have a sense of what's happening in the world, and it's not here.
Camila Marrone
That's like, even getting on the subway in New York, the train, I think it's like you see, like, the chic woman who's from the Upper east side, and she's got her fur coat on. And then you see somebody else who's like an artist from Brooklyn, you can tell. And they're like making music on the train. I think just like people actually need to pay their rent in New York in a very serious way because New York is so expensive. And I think that you just like have real humans. It's, I would say the best thing about New York is it's less Hollywood concentrated.
Chelsea Handler
That's right.
Camila Marrone
Like you don't run into an actor or screenwriter or producer, even though there's nothing wrong with those people, because I am one of them.
Chelsea Handler
But there's something wrong with all of those people. You be.
Camila Marrone
I don't say words from me like,
Katherine
I will go on the recording.
Camila Marrone
Yeah. You can translate the words.
Chelsea Handler
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Camila Marrone
But I think that it's like, it's just a little bit of a breather. Not everybody's doing something in the industry all the time.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah. And that is refreshing because you meet different types of people and you're like, oh, that's interesting. And it kind of piques your interest to get like, to get involved in other things that normally, you know, you might not be, you know, I think the thing in LA is everyone kind of sticks to their home base a lot. Yeah.
Camila Marrone
Stay in your neighborhood and you don't
Chelsea Handler
get out of your comfort zone. Like, I just went to this thing last night. It's like, I know all the people that were there. I'm like, there wasn't a new person. You know what I mean? I'm like, I never meet anyone new here.
Katherine
I heard this thing once that LA is a city that happens behind closed doors. And I feel like that's so true. Like it's a party or it's at a restaurant or it's all inside somewhere.
Camila Marrone
But don't you even go to the same, like five restaurants?
Lee (Caller)
Right.
Camila Marrone
I do feel like living in New York you like, push yourself to be a little bit more exploratory and go out and try new things.
Chelsea Handler
I also think, like, for someone my age, it's important to move to New York because as you get older, like you want to be vibrant and like, you know, like, otherwise I'll just take a Xanax at 7 o' clock and go to bed. And by the way, you can also do that in New York.
Camila Marrone
You can also do. People are like, when you go to New York, you have to be non stop. I'm like, I take a Xanax at 8:30, three nights a week and I'm
Chelsea Handler
Xanax I love it.
Camila Marrone
I'm on it right now. No, 10:00am Guys, I would never.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, let's talk about your projects because there are a lot of them we have to discuss. First of all, you're in the Night Manager 2, which is out. Everyone can watch that night, man. It took enough fucking time for them to come out with a sequel.
Camila Marrone
I was like a toddler when the first one came out.
Chelsea Handler
But the first one was incredibly. And the second one is really, really awesome too. So it's great because sometimes the second seasons of series do not stack up. And this one absolutely does. And that's where I first noticed your eyebrows, to be honest with you. I don't want to focus so much.
Camila Marrone
This is like brow gauge. Yeah, I have, like.
Chelsea Handler
They're gorgeous.
Camila Marrone
Like, Anastasia brow gel.
Chelsea Handler
Okay.
Camila Marrone
I use that, too.
Chelsea Handler
That's what you used on me yesterday. I mean, I didn't use it today, obviously.
Camila Marrone
Sometimes I think, like, my mom was like, I went through a phase where I was like, over slicking them. She's like, it kind of looks like you've been on, like, a moped and just like, took. Took your.
Chelsea Handler
Or it looks like there's actual gel. Maybe it's in them.
Camila Marrone
I don't like that when I do it.
Chelsea Handler
And sometimes the gel comes out and then it looks like somebody.
Camila Marrone
I thin it out always. I'm a virgin, actually.
Chelsea Handler
Don't talk to me about the filming. Where did you get to go on location for Night Manager 2?
Camila Marrone
So we started in London, and then we went to Colombia. We did five different cities in Colombia. And then we finish in Spain in the Canary Islands. And then anything.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, that's sexy. And you just got back from Sevilla last night.
Camila Marrone
You said, I got back from Seville. I don't know. That's another one. Sevilla, Sevilla, Seville. Sevilla. Por la schlecken. They gave you in Spania. That's my Penelope Cruise. They're going to execute me when I land in Spain next time. They're going to be like, she's. How dare you. Yeah, yeah. We were in Seville finishing the Age of Innocence yesterday.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, so that's another movie.
Camila Marrone
It's another one. It's a TV show. Yeah.
Chelsea Handler
And then you have. Something very bad is going to happen,
Camila Marrone
which is this week.
Chelsea Handler
Which is this week. Which is from the guys who did Stranger Things.
Camila Marrone
Yeah. Duffer.
Chelsea Handler
Bro. Okay. This is the first thing that they've done out of Stranger Things.
Camila Marrone
Executive produce.
Chelsea Handler
Okay. Okay. The first thing that they've executive produced from Stranger Things. So let's focus on one Project and talk about that first. Which one would you like to start with?
Camila Marrone
My eyebrows. Let's go back.
Chelsea Handler
Really?
Camila Marrone
No. Okay, what do you want? What do you want to know?
Katherine
I mean, as a horror fan, I love horror.
Camila Marrone
Okay, great, great.
Katherine
I love something very bad. But I also love that you got to work with a woman. Showrunner, Right?
Chelsea Handler
Creator.
Katherine
Showrunner.
Camila Marrone
Which is. Now, it's so funny because people bring this up in interviews, but I feel like I got the industry at probably a turning point because I've, like, almost exclusively worked with female directors.
Chelsea Handler
So cool.
Camila Marrone
Which is crazy because I guess I said to people and they're like, oh, my God, that's so rare, because of course, it's not where the industry was 10 years ago.
Chelsea Handler
That is so nice to hear.
Camila Marrone
But I. The last. I mean, the last five things I've done have all been even on TV shows like Age of Innocence. Three female directors. Something very bad. Three different female directors. I worked with Patricia Arquette on Gonzo Girl.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, God. Tell us about Patricia Arquette.
Camila Marrone
She's the fucking. Well, first.
Chelsea Handler
She's the fucking you should have on here. I will. I'm totally going to reach out to her. We need to reach out to her.
Camila Marrone
She's. She's. She's a.
Chelsea Handler
She's awesome.
Camila Marrone
Yeah. She's also, like, very, like, kooky hippie. Like, I won't talk to Patricia for six months, and then she'll send me, like, all these endometriosis, like, herbal medicines that she found on an Instagram account. Like, how'd you even find this part of the web? Like, what are you on? Every time I come across a weird Instagram account, Patricia Arquette has liked it. I'm like, but, like, how to make your house feel weird? And it's, like, hardened by Patricia. And then also, my favorite part about Patricia, she's the best. She'll comment on. On. People are like, you feel bad about your life? My husband did this to me after 30 years. And she's like, you should have left that man 30 years ago. And she'll comment publicly on her account, and then she gets in conversation with people on Instagram. I know.
Chelsea Handler
I love it. I love that behavior. I like odd behavior.
Camila Marrone
And, like, I'm like, did I tell her that, like, everything's public on Instagram
Chelsea Handler
or just let her think she gives a shit? You know what I mean? I think when you get to a certain age, I'm there. You do not care. You're just out there doing your thing and you're like, listen, I've already got my shit together. Like, you're not someone like her who is like, so solid, like, what's somebody gonna do that?
Camila Marrone
She's getting involved. She's getting involved. I'm like, at the place, I'm like, I don't wanna say anything about anyone or anything or hurt anything. And then she's just like, what do you wanna know? Let's do it.
Chelsea Handler
So how was she as a director?
Camila Marrone
Oh, my God. Patricia's. She's hilarious. She's very, like, she's very kind of energetic and I would say emotional. And I think having been an actor, she really doesn't hover and so she really kind of lets you find it. And I'd even go up to her after takes and be such, like an anxious people pleaser. And I was like, what did you think? She's like, honey, everything you do is good. Like, everything is interesting. And just try something else if you don't feel it. Like, let's try something else then. And I was like, okay, I'm like calling my therapist. I'm like, being validated feels so good. I didn't know this.
Chelsea Handler
And, well, like, okay, so that's one female director on the night manager. You did. Did you have female director? Okay, Georgie. And then you got to speak Spanish and English on that. And have you done that before?
Camila Marrone
No, I haven't. And I also did Colombian, which is super different.
Chelsea Handler
Argentinian. Yes. Because I took my first Spanish lesson. My first Spanish maestra was from Colombia and she was like, that is the Spanish. Like, the Spanish that you need to learn is Colombian. And I'm like, neutral.
Camila Marrone
That does not feel neutral at all. I'm like, everyone says that she feels like there's a neutral. Is there?
Katherine
Supposedly Spain Spanish is like the Spanish. But I was like, there's way more people who live in South America who speak a different kind of Spanish.
Camila Marrone
But I can be in Spain and like, not understand a lot of words. They're like, I'm like,
Chelsea Handler
with the lisp. I can't. I don't understand. Right, yeah.
Camila Marrone
They use the word cojer a lot, which means to fuck. They use it for everything.
Chelsea Handler
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Camila Marrone
Yes.
Chelsea Handler
And that was not why you were in Sevilla though.
Camila Marrone
No, that was Age of Innocence.
Chelsea Handler
Age of Innocence was why you're in Sevilla. That's not out yet.
Camila Marrone
That is not out because I wrapped it yesterday.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, this is four. So now we're talking about four projects. We're on three.
Camila Marrone
Okay, so we're all over the shop here.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, so do I. So it doesn't matter. I just want to keep track of the fact that you have four different projects going.
Camila Marrone
Okay.
Chelsea Handler
So people who watching this know which one we're fucking talking about.
Camila Marrone
We shot Gonzo Girl with Patricia Arquette, the story about Hunter S. Thompson. We love that. That was a film. And then we did Night Manager in all those amazing countries. And then something very bad which is coming out this week.
Chelsea Handler
How do you feel about horror films in general?
Camila Marrone
Oh, yeah, yeah. This is what we were talking about. I actually wasn't a horror fan growing up. Like, I saw the trailer or a poster for Chucky and I didn't sleep for 15 years. Oh, no. Like I created the story of what Chucky does. I didn't even need to know the plot line. I was like, it's a little red headed creepy dog doll that's like under the bed and stuff. And I know he's out to get me. Yeah. And then I saw When a Stranger Calls, which destroyed me. Still to this day, if I see unknown number on my phone, I'm certain if someone. The call is coming from inside the house. And I was totally Traumatized my whole childhood. And I would, like, make my dad check the bed and all the things. And then when I got a little older and actually for this project, I started watching, like, a wider range of horror films that, like, weren't meant to, like, traumatize you for life. And I fell in love with horror. Yeah, I really love it.
Chelsea Handler
Now I feel like horror is better to watch for me, personally, because I have, like a jumping instinct.
Katherine
A jump scare.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, I have a jump is a. On a plane when I'm surrounded by people.
Camila Marrone
Yeah. Daylight only. I never watch something at night or
Chelsea Handler
even scary during the day, but I can be on a plane at night. As long as the window's open, then I'm okay. And if I'm on this and if I'm on the window, I do daytime always.
Camila Marrone
And I will probably most of the time cover one of my sensories. Like, if it's something scary, I'll probably cover my ears. So I don't get both. I can't, like, watch something scary and hear something scary. I have to pick.
Chelsea Handler
What about violence?
Camila Marrone
I don't, like, love Blood and Guts and horror. Like, I don't love that. And that's what I love about the show is that it's not like organs spilling out and like toenails being ripped off.
Katherine
It's like just a creepy ambiance. And what I liked about it too, is they'll set something up and you're like, okay, you know, this girl is like going into these scenarios and it's very creepy and, like, why doesn't she. And then they solve it and then there's like a new scenario. So it's like, it's not just like a one and done. Like, there's a real layered story there
Chelsea Handler
and sometimes that's creepier than that actual. But I really don't like violence. Like when I see men hitting men or women. Violence against women, I cannot watch at all. But I just can't even watch it. I end up closing my eyes half the movie. So if it's too violent, it's like a wait, it's wasted on me.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, this show is cool because it's more of a psychological thriller, I think, than, like. And I think maybe perhaps I don't like the traditional horror in the sense of, like, blood and guts and violence. I like more of the slow burn psychological torture.
Chelsea Handler
You know who else is Argentinian or Argentine? Anya.
Katherine
Anya Taylor. Joy.
Camila Marrone
Yeah.
Chelsea Handler
Do you know her?
Camila Marrone
She was just in Prague when I was filming and we didn't get to Meet up. But she was filming something. But we know each other just casually from like award shows and stuff. Since I go to so many awards shows, probably one that I've ever. It's so funny.
Chelsea Handler
Cause I was at Glastonbury this year. I met her at Glastonbury and she was in the crew that I was hanging out with. And I had no idea she was. Was Argentinian or Argentine. We're gonna get to the bottom of this.
Camila Marrone
Or someone will for us.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, exactly.
Camila Marrone
Don't worry, they'll get to us before we can even get to it.
Caitlin (Caller)
Yeah.
Chelsea Handler
But we had this beautiful conversation which I've been kind of taking on the road with me and taking ownership of, because it was about ascension. Like, about how women are never, like, cooked. We're constantly growing and constantly learning. Cause we were talking about our age differences. And I was experiencing like a really fun career moment at that time. And I was like, she's like, that's so awesome. And I was like, yeah, I'm 50 years old. Like, how can you believe, like, that? That's like a peak that I never thought I would peak or have a moment.
Camila Marrone
Because you're told that you're basically gonna
Chelsea Handler
die after 30, you're told after 40 that you're like, useless. And I'm like, some of my best career moments have happened between 40 and 50. And now that I'm 51, I just turned 51, I'm like, I'm more excited now than ever because I look at everything as an ascension. Like, now I'm like, as long as women are here, especially for women, as long as we're here, we're in ascension when we die, then it's over. Like, the idea that you can't do something. Like, I learned how to be a kick ass skier when I was like 43, 44 years old, people usually are like, I didn't learn how to ski well.
Camila Marrone
I was resentful to my parents because I'm not like those skiers on the slopes that has, like the little hip movements and they've all been in class since they were two. And I was like, you never made me stick to any sports. And now I'm not good at anything. Like, I hate you guys. But they were like, you can go out there and try. So it's good to know that I can become a great skier.
Chelsea Handler
And now I can ski. Ski. Most people like that. I even meet, you know, people that live in Whistler. I have a house in Whistler, Canada, when I go there. Like, people that Live there. I ski better than they do.
Camila Marrone
My mom got dropped. She went heli skiing yesterday in Switzerland. Called me from the bottom, hysterically crying. She was like, powder is so hard. Nobody told me there was no way down but down.
Chelsea Handler
That's so funny.
Camila Marrone
My mom, like, slowed down the entire crew that she was with. She'd never heli skied. She was with these, like, really good skiers, and they dropped her off, and she was falling the entire time. She's like, I was like. I was buried under. The powder was awful.
Chelsea Handler
So it's hard. Powder skiing is hard if you've never powder skied. Yeah, I have. I had that problem. Yeah. Because it's deep, and it's like. Like, everything you learn about skiing, it's kind of the opposite technique. For powder, you don't do much. You just kind of hop and bounce around. But it's really scary going heli skiing already. And then if you don't know how to ski.
Camila Marrone
I want to be in a helicopter, and I don't want to ski on
Chelsea Handler
the top of a mountain, and you don't want to jump out of a helicopter.
Camila Marrone
Yeah. So I don't think the combination is meant for me, but I am down. I am adventurous. I would do. I would do it.
Chelsea Handler
So back to ascension. Back to female ascension and women ascension. How old are you right now?
Camila Marrone
28.
Chelsea Handler
Oh. Oh, my God. You're a baby.
Camila Marrone
No, but it doesn't feel like that. I feel all the things that you're saying. It's actually really real. It's so weird. And it's like, almost is. It's like, almost 30. And it sounds like, you know, 30 is such a baby. But it's like, my friends are actually starting to, like, get engaged and get married, and most of my friends have babies already at 28, 30. I'm like, why?
Chelsea Handler
Why do they have babies already?
Camila Marrone
I don't know.
Chelsea Handler
I thought that was out of style in your 20s.
Lee (Caller)
No.
Camila Marrone
They're, like, having babies, but they're kind of like, you know, even my dad was like, you know, you have to. You know, if you're gonna date somebody now, it's kind of gotta be your person, because you're, like, almost 30. And I'm like, I'm almost 30. Like, what does that mean?
Katherine
No, it's so scary.
Chelsea Handler
But it's so. It's. But you have so much to look forward to. Like, I wish when we were our age, actually, this is the moment. Because I'm so much older than you, and I can tell you, you have so Much to look forward to. Like, you're 28, you already have a huge career. You already have a full life. You already living in New York, like your life is just going to get better and better and better the more experiences you have and like, the older you get. And I'm here justified to that.
Camila Marrone
Thank you for saying that. But like, it really is. Is kind of traumatic. And even in the Oscars, I remember, like when Michelle Yeoh won, everyone was like, oh my God, you can win an Oscar at that age. And it's like, what are we talking about? But it really is, I think specifically in the industry, like, the leading lady is meant to like, die out at, you know, 36 or 38 years old. You know, it's like, then you move into the mother role. You're no longer like the love interest. And I just, I find that really confusing and scary and it just feels like there's this like, finite time limit on.
Chelsea Handler
But it's just not true. Look at Nicole Kidman. You know what I mean? Look at Frances McDormand. Look at all those types of women that are just like constantly picking projects that they want to do. Look at Patricia Arquette, you know, like, they're all perfect examples of the fact that you are. People are still working at that age and that we've been fed this idea and this bullshit and it's kind of like counter to everything that's going on politically. Like, not even though Hollywood still has a long way to go with sexism and racism, we are. It is counter to what is happening in the world. So like, that's just not true. People are working in their 50s and 60s like never before. Look at Meryl Streep. Look at, you know.
Camila Marrone
But I find myself like unlearning this pretense that I feel that I have maybe I've, you know, self implied this kind of stress and pressure and all that, but it does feel real in some capacity. But then of course, you see the people and even like what Reese has done with hello Sunshine and creating her own opportunities. And I just, I actually think we're in a really interesting moment where actresses, you know, Margot Robbie and all the women who have production companies and they're going out there and finding their own IP and doing what she did with Barbie and, you know, Wuthering Heights. Yeah. And all of it. I just think it's really exciting that now we can like go and kind of create our own producerial role in the movie.
Chelsea Handler
Something very bad is going to happen. It's all about you like playing on your paranoia and, like, superstitious or superstitions. Can you relate to any of that in your real life?
Camila Marrone
Are you paranoid in the bathroom? You didn't have anywhere to put my purse, so I held onto it while I peed. Just now I have a huge tote bag. Cause my mom was like, in Argentina, if you put your purse on the floor, you instantly lose money.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, that's what everyone says to me. By the way. That's not true. I put my purse on the ground all the time.
Katherine
And look where we were at this house. Maybe it happened.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Camila Marrone
That's why we're in the money pit.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, yeah, that's right. Maybe that is a bucket. Put it on the table.
Camila Marrone
I was in your powder room, like, holding on to the wall with my ch. I was like, I can't lose money.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, my God. Why didn't you put it on the sink?
Camila Marrone
Because it's a very tiny slot.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, okay. Yeah, we gotta find. I'll put a table in there. Thank you.
Camila Marrone
Call the contractor.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want to talk to the contractor anymore. It's over.
Camila Marrone
By the way, contractor relationships are the most volatile relationships of all time. Do you know anyone who has a successful relationship with a contractor?
Lee (Caller)
No.
Camila Marrone
I've had more freight, more contract and friend breakups and relationship breakups.
Chelsea Handler
I know. It's unbelievable. I don't know. It's almost like if you become a contractor, something else didn't work out, like, because I don't know why they are so crooked and why they are so careless. I had a good experience with my last contractor, but the first one's a nightmare. But I know.
Camila Marrone
We should make an app. Like, a contractor app. Like, we vetted them. I love him. I've met him. He does great work.
Katherine
Hire him.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, but there should already be something like that. It's called a fucking referral. You know, when somebody, like, you don't
Camila Marrone
trust anybody when it comes to contractors?
Chelsea Handler
Nobody. I had a great experience with my Spanish contractors. They were amazing. Yeah, they were, like, on time. Early gave me money back at the end of the thing. It was, like, unheard of.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, that's like, what we're supposed to get with taxes, right?
Chelsea Handler
So are you superstitious about anything else?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, everything. Like what? Salt. Salt? I can't pass salt hand to hand. If it touched me hand to hand. Like, it's. The whole thing's going over the left shoulder. No umbrella indoors, of course. Forget a staircase. Splitting a pole.
Chelsea Handler
You won't Walk under a staircase or you won't walk up a staircase either.
Camila Marrone
I have to be lifted. I don't do staircases. No, I won't walk under a stair and a ladder. I mean, what else is there? There's so many. I mean, cheersing, looking in the eyes, all the things. I mean, anything. Black cat. Forget about it. I've had a black cat cross me and I had to get out and do, like this, like, ritual where you cross a car 13 times. I don't know.
Chelsea Handler
Somebody told me for my house, to cleanse it, you know, to clean the energy, to get a bunch of monks here to pray, to change the frequency and the vibration of the house. And I was like, you have a
Camila Marrone
really great experience with this.
Chelsea Handler
Don't really want to deal with a bunch of monks right now. I mean, no, but maybe they can come while I'm gone because I'm never here anyway.
Camila Marrone
Bring the monks.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, we're going to get into the advice portion of this show where we give advice. Okay. So do you.
Camila Marrone
I might get hypothermia, but I'm ready to give advice. Can you ask me this Barefoot Dreams blanket, the one that's behind you?
Chelsea Handler
Of course.
Camila Marrone
Thank you.
Chelsea Handler
Give me an example, if you can think of one of either the best advice or the worst advice you've ever gotten from someone.
Lee (Caller)
1.
Camila Marrone
I mean, like, the idea of everything happens for a reason. When something, like, absolutely terrible is happening in your life and, like, everything happens for a reason. It's like such horrible things have happened in humanity and history. I don't know if everything happens for a reason, but I believe that there's a lesson to be learned from everything you do. And I'm down to embrace that. I don't know if that goes under
Chelsea Handler
the worst advice, but that's just kind of like a platitude. You know what I mean? Everything happens.
Camila Marrone
Carry on. It's like, keep calm and carry.
Chelsea Handler
Or it's like when people say it. My least favorite saying is when people say it is what it is, is what. What does that mean?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, what does that mean?
Katherine
What is it actually?
Chelsea Handler
What? Explain to me what it is.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, that's pretty bad. I put that up there.
Chelsea Handler
Do you want to cover your other arm up with that? It doesn't seem like you're. I mean, do you know how to use a blanket? It doesn't seem like it.
Camila Marrone
I did. Mom, what do you want me to do? Like this on the pa it's like I'm trying to also, like, be presentable.
Chelsea Handler
It's okay. As long as your eyebrows are out here, you're fine.
Katherine
Give me my gel.
Camila Marrone
Give me my jaw hair.
Chelsea Handler
Your eyebrows is good.
Camila Marrone
Okay, I have one side note to just tell you before I forget because my brain is short circuiting.
Chelsea Handler
Wait, is there a cat here?
Camila Marrone
Wait, you love to work out in my grandma's bedroom, and I'm just going to leave that there.
Chelsea Handler
Ben Bruno's home is your grandmother's bedroom.
Camila Marrone
His home gym is my grandmother's bedroom. My mom sold our house to Ben Bruno, your trainer. What? Who I still haven't met. And my grandma would come from Argentina because she's Argentine. Yeah, she's Argentine and she's Argentine now. And. And we would, like, throw her in this garage room off the laundry that, like, didn't have insulation or, like, heating or air conditioning, and she would be so happy to be visiting us. And Ben Bruno bought the house and turned that into a gym, which you
Chelsea Handler
now work in, which is called the kitchen. He calls it the kitchen.
Camila Marrone
Well, it was not the kitchen. It's the garage with no insulation.
Chelsea Handler
That's so weird. When you said that, I was like, the only place I said she could be talking about is Ben Bruno's garage, but I couldn't make the connection. Okay, are we taking a break and coming back?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, we're back.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, we're taking a break. We're taking my brows. We're taking a break with Camilla Marron. Camila Marrone. Am I saying it right?
Camila Marrone
Yeah, Camilla Marrone, I think so.
Chelsea Handler
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Camila Marrone
Wow.
Chelsea Handler
That was fast. So fast.
Camila Marrone
Wow. Okay. I thought we were, like, getting up, touching up.
Chelsea Handler
I just have to go upstairs and fix my eyes.
Katherine
More blankets?
Camila Marrone
Yeah. Okay.
Katherine
Well, we have a big red flag here. So this is our one drink question. Brecken says, my parents are divorced and my dad talks shit about my mom on social media.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, that's great.
Katherine
My mom doesn't retaliate, but I know she's aware of it. I've asked him to stop, and he won't. But my wedding is coming up, and I don't want any drama. Should I disinvite him from my wedding if he won't stop? Reckon?
Chelsea Handler
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Camila Marrone
Oh, see, I was like, no, don't.
Chelsea Handler
That's why you're here. We're having to have differing opinions. Let me just go first, and then I want to hear what you say. I. First of all, that is totally unacceptable to trash talk somebody's the father or daughter. Father or mother of your child in public or behind the scenes. In my opinion, like, that's. You're the parent. Act like it. And that is a perfect reason to disinvite him from the wedding. Why would you put your mother in that situation? You know? Well, I'm sure your mother's gonna be cool. Cause she's not gonna be responsive to that. But you have to have a really long conversation with your father about boundaries and about what's acceptable. Okay, now you go.
Camila Marrone
I'm deeply triggered. This is basically my entire childhood.
Chelsea Handler
Is it? I thought you said they got along great, though.
Camila Marrone
Well, this is the Argentinian. I mean, they, like, get along for like, one Christmas, they're like, best friends, and the next, my mom and dad are like, I won't be there if the other parents there. That's the vibe. And it's also always very dependent on who their partner is at the time.
Chelsea Handler
Sure.
Camila Marrone
So, like, if the partner's like, I don't want the ex involved. So it's. It's a very. You Know, it's an up and down. It's been, it's been, it's been like a part time job mediating between them for the last, you know, 20 years. But I.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, well that's very different than what you said at the beginning of the episode where you said my parents got along so well, so I couldn't even play them against each other.
Camila Marrone
Now you're talking to each other about important things.
Chelsea Handler
Like if like you.
Camila Marrone
Yes.
Katherine
They're in cahoots.
Camila Marrone
They're in cahoots. So like they'll do a check in once you're like, how do you feel like, you know, if I'm going through a hard time. Like they always talk to each other on the phone. Yeah, they do, but they don't want to hang necessarily anymore. But there has been times that they hung. It's very up and down. I want to know more about the dad posting on Instagram. Is it comments or is he doing like a grid post? Being like, today I woke up, he's on Instagram. Is he on the grid post being like, hey, fudge, you ex wife? Like, I'm just curious. Yeah, like, is it a grid post or is he storing it? And does he like attach a photo of the mom? But I'll obviously he's like not over it and still in love. Cause like he's really adamant. I have so many questions about the like just the technicality of the shit talking on his.
Chelsea Handler
But what you were instinctually you were gonna say that, what, that he should come.
Camila Marrone
I should have a conversation with the dad first. You really don't want like your, you want your mom and dad there, if they can be. So I would just sit down my dad and be like, I would love to have you there, but if you're gonna be problematic, I'm very happy to uninvite you. So like, if you can control yourself, you're super wanted. If you can't, then you're not coming. And that's my boundary.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. That's reasonable.
Katherine
Such a great way of life.
Camila Marrone
And then there's like a really high probability that he'll like blackout and like shit talk mom at the. And you have to be prepared.
Chelsea Handler
Right. Well then you have to put like drinking limitations on the situation, which is never fun for anybody. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't go anywhere where they told me to limit my drinking. But I'm also not problematic like that. Not anymore anyway. Not in this part of my life.
Camila Marrone
They like poll reference clips of like all the times you've been practicing and slideshow.
Katherine
Just gonna put those right here.
Camila Marrone
Chelsea's ever said.
Chelsea Handler
It's a list that's being carried out of it.
Camila Marrone
Three hour compilation.
Katherine
We're gonna call Jane Fonda. She's gonna tell us the whole story.
Chelsea Handler
Oh, yeah, exactly saying.
Katherine
All right, Breen, well, you've got the language to use now.
Chelsea Handler
Did you come on this podcast hoping to give advice? Is that why? I mean, did you. Is that the main reason?
Camila Marrone
Oh my God, I'm so good at giving advice and I'm so bad at taking it. I love it.
Chelsea Handler
Me too. Exactly the same. Exact.
Camila Marrone
How do we look, guys?
Katherine
We look amazing.
Camila Marrone
I feel like I'm like,
Katherine
okay, so our first caller today is Caitlyn. She is 32 and her subject line line is chat GPT broke up with me by proxy.
Chelsea Handler
There she is.
Katherine
So Caitlin says. Dear Chelsea, I'm not sure if this qualifies as a dating question or a how do I stop my life from falling apart all at once question, but here goes. A year and a half ago, I met a wonderful man while on an extended work trip to Texas. We did long distance. It went well, and last year we decided we were ready to move in together. Soon, he's fully remote and I was tethered to New York. So the plan was to make New York home. He's from here originally too. Then everything happened at once before he had a chance to move in. I found out my job probably ends this year. Moving to Texas started to make financial sense, lower cost of living. Finally start a personal life after years of being tied to work, etc. Then in January, I was diagnosed with endometriosis and surgery was scheduled a few weeks later. Suddenly, I needed one thing in my life to stay still. I couldn't face moving across the country, away from my entire support network right after surgery in a red state where I'd also want to freeze up my eggs while unemployed and potentially financially dependent on a man for the first time in my life. So last month, I called to ask him if he'd consider moving into my place temporarily, just to buy us some time. The conversation ended with us breaking up.
Chelsea Handler
He.
Katherine
He told me the romantic in him wanted to relocate, but reason told him it wouldn't work. He'd apparently been consulting ChatGPT about our relationship, which told him two people can love each other, but sometimes timing and location just don't mean line up. I have a long history with abandonment and relationships ending because people didn't show up when I needed them most. He Offered to come help me through my surgery because he felt bad about the timing, which I declined, Obviously. It made me sad to say it out loud. I guess my question is, was I asking for too much, or am I someone who keeps finding herself alone in hard moments and calling it independence? And Caitlin, I know you have an update about relationship status here.
Chelsea Handler
Hi, Caitlyn.
Caitlin (Caller)
Hi. Hi.
Chelsea Handler
Hi. This. It's. This is Camilla Marone. She's our special guest today. We're happy that you called in. And. Yes. What's your update?
Caitlin (Caller)
We are back together. We had a call shortly after, so we were able to kind of reconvene together and figure it all out. I also had a therapy session and was able to chat with the therapist about, like, rationally, just, like, my past and walking through all of that and how previously in relationships, I've always kind of hunkered down and said, I can take care of myself on my own. So that was kind of the rationale behind us getting back together. Was like, I truly knew I wanted to be with him and give it a chance. I think I could possibly overlook the chatgpt thing.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, I don't think that's. How did you guys come about getting back on the phone? Like, who initiated that phone call after chat? GPT prompted, told him to break up with you?
Caitlin (Caller)
I called him.
Chelsea Handler
Okay, and what was that call? Like, what were your intentions with that call to get back together?
Caitlin (Caller)
It was. It was to be clear that, you know, we needed to work things out, and we kind of just needed to talk through a couple of things, like, just understanding that I had a lot going on and that I think we needed to make one decision at a time realistically.
Chelsea Handler
And so he was open to getting back together?
Caitlin (Caller)
Yes, he was communicative in that. Like, he had said his plan was that he would reach out again after I had my surgery and he would connect with me to try to make things right and figure out a path forward for the both of us. So he was very receptive to getting back together. I think it was his plan all along. Like, after we kind of had that initial breakup conversation. But I think for me, like, after talking to my therapist, I had said that I knew I truly wanted to be with him. I just was in this rush of decision making between having the surgery and feeling overwhelmed from that. Feeling overwhelmed from a ton of work being dumped on me because. Because two of my teammates left and, you know, I didn't know if my job was going to be intact by the end of the year. I just couldn't possibly make a move decision right then and there. And I just felt like hunkering down and breaking up was, like, the easiest thing. And when he said chatgpt agreed, I was kind of like, well, I guess then we have no other choice, right?
Chelsea Handler
Well, first of all, I hate that fucking people to use ChatGPT for therapy. I hate that the people use ChatGPT, period. Tell them to go to anthropic, because ChatGPT is like, surveilling all.
Katherine
Or a therapist.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, or a therapist.
Katherine
Exactly.
Chelsea Handler
What am I talking about? Go to a different AI platform. But I think the overarching lesson here for our listeners and for you is when you are in a state of overwhelm, there are no decisions to be made like that. You shouldn't be making any serious decisions. When you're feeling overwhelmed, you have to know that you're in a sense of kind of almost desensitization. Like when I'm so busy and so like. Or I have a million things going on, it's like I can't give my full attention into certain aspects of my life. And I'm just very honest about that. I'm like, listen, I don't have the bandwidth right now for this. I'll be back. I'll circle back on this in about a week. And I think it's important to recognize that as women who feel like we can multitask everything and we can do a million things at one time, which we're good at, we still have our limits, too. And it is important to recognize when you're in those moments, you're going through a ton of stuff and going through medical, personal stuff, that's no time to make a decision about your relationship.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, I was gonna say I have endo, and I've been avoiding the surgery for. Since I was 15. So, like, you're really brave for going through it. And it's very isolating and very lonely to have endometriosis. And that's a really particular thing to be going through during a breakup. And it's already really scary and makes you feel really isolated because no one really understands it unless you have it, including doctors. Yep.
Katherine
Yeah.
Camila Marrone
And especially men that don't. Nervous.
Katherine
No, they don't.
Caitlin (Caller)
They try.
Camila Marrone
They try.
Chelsea Handler
So how are you doing now after the surgery?
Caitlin (Caller)
My surgery actually hasn't happened. It's actually next week. It's next Tuesday. He plans to fly out. He's actually been really supportive and sending articles. So it's interesting you say that it's challenging for men to Understand. I think while he's in the same state of mind that he'll never understand truly. He's been doing research, like reading through Reddit forums, and then also just kind of doing his own. Own knowledge checking.
Camila Marrone
That's really cute.
Caitlin (Caller)
Trying to figure out how to support me throughout the surgery.
Katherine
See, that's a positive use of the technology. I like that.
Camila Marrone
That's what we're using.
Chelsea Handler
Spring flags we like.
Camila Marrone
How do we understand?
Katherine
Exactly.
Camila Marrone
Exactly.
Chelsea Handler
How can we relate? Well, great. It sounds like everything's going great then. I'm glad that you have this update and that you filled us in on that. And yeah, we need to be talking about these issues with men as often as possible because they lack understanding, because they lack education about it. You know, endometriosis, I have two other girlfriends who are like, there's like, they went to male doctors who were like, knew nothing about endometriosis, which is ridiculous. And because it's a woman's disease or a woman's. I don't even know is it a disease?
Camila Marrone
Yeah. And even, funny enough, it's very hard. You can't get diagnosed unless you really open up laparoscopically and do surgery. So, like, you can get like a vaginal exam, but it's like, actually not guaranteed.
Chelsea Handler
I like how you do this when you talk about a vaginal exam.
Camila Marrone
Yes.
Katherine
I had the same experience.
Caitlin (Caller)
That's how they figured out it was endo for me, was like doing this. And then they did the actual scan and saw that I had a 6 centimeter cyst. And it's probably a deep infiltrating phase because they said it was late stage. So I hope you do also go get endo taken care of. It's not something we should be dealing with. And. And I hope you're able to find a solution for yourself that works.
Camila Marrone
Thank you. Good luck with your surgery.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, have a good surgery and have a good recovery. And I'm glad things are back on track with your man.
Camila Marrone
Get babied by your man and tell
Chelsea Handler
him to stop going on ChatGPT. That's a direct quote from me.
Katherine
Reddit is okay. We've decided.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, Reddit. Go on Reddit.
Camila Marrone
I love Reddit. I will.
Caitlin (Caller)
I appreciate it.
Chelsea Handler
Thank you, Caitlin.
Katherine
Good luck.
Caitlin (Caller)
Okay, thank you all.
Katherine
That's so funny. Cause I didn't know that you had. I also have endometriosis and I'm just like, sometimes these questions, like, they just kind of. Kind of, they find the right person. It's so funny how that happens.
Chelsea Handler
I know that Happens.
Camila Marrone
I actually never talked about it, but it's been such a big part of my life since I was 15.
Chelsea Handler
And you're scared to get the surgery.
Camila Marrone
I have heard that it is incredibly painful, but mainly I. I'm more. It. It grows back because it is scar tissue, and it's tissue. So, you know, there's a lot of. A lot of people that I've consulted with that had the surgery, and two, three years later, they have to get it again. There's like, an old witch tale that if you have children, the pain can reduce significantly. I've taken birth control since I was 15 to kind of minimize the pain and the bleeding, but it's the worst. And it's also so emotional. I remember the day that I got diagnosed, and it was like, I said that vaginal exam, and I started crying. She was like, you do in fact, have endo. And I was crying so much. Me, too.
Katherine
My surgeon was like, so you do have endometriosis. You're like, after seven years of asking doctors, including female ones, do I have this? And they're like, well, I can't. He goes, you have endometriosis. I was like, thank you.
Camila Marrone
I remember looking at my mom, my boyfriend, and being like, I told you I'm not crazy. Like, the pain's not normal. And I actually went to the hospital on my first period when I was 15 because they thought I was having,
Katherine
like, either pancreatitis, Cherish, or, like, gallbladder or something.
Camila Marrone
Gallbladder or something. And. And I like you how you look
Chelsea Handler
at me as a doctor.
Camila Marrone
Pancreatitis.
Chelsea Handler
Thank you. Yes, it is pancreatitis.
Camila Marrone
You're welcome.
Chelsea Handler
Pancreatitis.
Camila Marrone
But it's so. And actually, on average, takes up to 10 years to diagnose.
Katherine
So I will say for our listeners, there is a listener who called in before who was dealing with endometriosis, and she's got a very helpful full Instagram account now called Kim versus Endo. So go check her out.
Camila Marrone
That's what Patricia Arquette sends me.
Katherine
The, like, oh, yeah, the endo scan.
Camila Marrone
She's like, if you have green herbal tea at 3pm You're Endo. And I'm like, I think I need laparoscopic surgery with multiple scars. But, yes, I will look into that, sweet pea.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, that sounds terrible also. So I'm sorry, ladies, you just have
Katherine
to be a woman. Well, let's get to this other question, which I think is also pulled maybe straight from your life. So our last caller today is Lee, and she says Dear Chelsea, I'm a 36 year old mother of two healthy daughters. I'm married, I have a great community. I had a happy middle class childhood in the Midwest and I still call my mom every week. All of this is to say I have a very full and fulfilling life. My question today is whether I should open Pandora's box or leave well enough alone. Growing up I was the only child my parents shared together. But I knew I had three half sisters and two half brothers from my parents previous marriage marriages. I was raised with two half sisters, my mom's children. But we were estranged from my dad's three children because of beliefs and restrictions within their religion. A religion my dad left when he divorced their mother. The other siblings would come up from time to time. My dad might share an occasional story or something about my appearance or personality that would spark a memory of them. But these were never relationships I actively longed for or mourned because they were relationships I never really had. I grew up with only a few memories of of them. Now with daughters of my own and parents who are getting older, I find myself thinking more about family, the bond between siblings and the connections that shape us. Some days I wonder if I should reach out to these siblings just to see what might be. At the same time I hesitate. I worry about opening the floodgates to decades of emotions this might stir up for them and my father. So I'm left wondering do I reach out and potentially open Pandora's box to satisfy my curiosity or leave well enough alone and focus on the wonderful family I already have Have. Sincerely, Lee I'm a perfect.
Camila Marrone
I'm the perfect person. I have two half siblings. My dad had two more kids when I was 18 years old. I was an only child So I was 18. They're like little my dad met a woman on match.com and I have a 10 and 11 year old brother and sister for the first time in my
Chelsea Handler
life and do you feel like their mother or their aunt or their sister?
Camila Marrone
But I think what's. I have lots to say.
Chelsea Handler
I feel like I am a. Hi Lee. Hi. How are you? Okay. Well you're in the perfect company. Okay.
Camila Marrone
You came to the best place because
Chelsea Handler
I Marron is our special guest and she has experience in this. Oh this is great age gaslighting sibling.
Camila Marrone
Yes. So I was an only child till I was 18 and I was always very sad about it and wished that I had siblings and I would make up scenarios where I was fighting over pancakes with my fake siblings and my mom would have to Separate us. It was like very sad only child syndrome. And I would like, pretend I would be jealous of people who got in fights with their siblings. Long story short, My dad had two more kids when I was 18, so they're my half siblings. And it has been the biggest gift of my life. Obviously you already know you're in contact with your half siblings, but I would just say, say I always think, and it's kind of sad about, like when we are going to lose a parent, which is inevitable and going to h. Happen to us. Like, I'm so grateful now that I have these other people to have memories about my dad with and to share stories and to joke about, you know, long after, knock on wood, he's passed. And I just think it's, it's why, you know, yes, it's Pandora's box, but I think you're. It looks like you're stable enough and emotionally mature enough to handle whatever can come your way, whatever that might open. And what beautiful things may you learn about your parent through these other. Other.
Chelsea Handler
That's a beautiful way to look at it. Really beautiful.
Camila Marrone
Might get some great stories and good laughs and.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, why not?
Lee (Caller)
Yeah, I, I would love to have a relationship with them or at least explore the possibility of that. I'm just more concerned. Obviously. I know I'm the one with the least amount of pain in the situation. I, I didn't lose siblings, I didn't lose a father. I just want to be sensitive to. I know that they might have a lot of emotions wrapped up around this that I don't necessarily have. And I don't want to be selfish by, you know, trying to satisfy my own just genuine curiosity if it might open a wound for them.
Camila Marrone
Do you know if they have interest in communicating with you?
Lee (Caller)
I mean, it's been 36 years and they have not reached out yet. I know the oldest sibling had said when I was born that she did not want to have a relationship with me. Obviously it's been a long time. So I don't know if, you know, they might be open to it now,
Chelsea Handler
but I think you can cover all of this in an email, like in a letter to them and be very sensitive with exactly what you just said. To be like, listen, I know this is sensitive. I wanna be sensitive to your emotions and your feelings. I know you had some misgivings about me when I was born. I don't even think you need to say that because it was 36 years ago.
Camila Marrone
I mean, people hated my little sister the day she was born. She was zero.
Chelsea Handler
I hated everyone. You know, my sister hated me for a long fucking time, too. But, you know, your situation's obviously a little bit different. I think you just go at it with sensitivity and love and just say, listen, I'm really curious. You know, we share a lot of stuff, and I think we can make something positive out of this. But I also want to be sensitive to your feelings and your emotions and your experiences. I know it's not like mine. And if there's any avenue for us to kind of get to know each other and spend some time together, I would really love to do that, you know, and just go at it with, like, full heart and, like, open arms and see what happens, you know, you have nothing to lose.
Lee (Caller)
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Like, I guess there's no downside. I mean, there's. There's nothing to lose. There's only something to gain. So, you know, I hope they would be open to it as well, but I guess I wouldn't know unless I try.
Chelsea Handler
Right.
Camila Marrone
And they can respectfully decline. I didn't realize how different it was from my situation. But yeah, I mean, if you're not pressuring anyone through an email, through a Claude email.
Katherine
Right?
Chelsea Handler
Yeah.
Camila Marrone
And you can just say if you're open to it and if you're not, I also totally understand that, and I'm excited to hear back from you either way.
Katherine
And you might find that some of them are interested and maybe one is not or, you know, that sort of thing, and that's okay too. You know, if there's someone who wants to connect, it might have an effect on the other ones in the future as well.
Camila Marrone
But it sounds like you're having a ping and you're interested, so I'd be curious to see, like, what your intuition and why this is of kind coming up. It'd be fun.
Lee (Caller)
Yeah, I feel the same way it's been after having kids this past year. I've just really been wondering, you know, what are they like, what are their kids like? Are our kids similar? Just all these curiosity questions coming up that, you know, I would just love to explore and see if they'd be open to it.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah. And I think you give them the option, you know, say that too. Say that you've had children. Like, I'm interested in meeting you alone. If you were open to meeting my children, that's an option. I'm. What? Like, just make them feel like, you know, it's. It's at their leisure. Yeah. The ball's in their court, like you're open to whatever looks good to them.
Lee (Caller)
Yeah, I love that.
Chelsea Handler
Anyway, so let us know what happens. Okay, I will.
Lee (Caller)
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. It was the encouragement I needed.
Chelsea Handler
Yes, absolutely. I mean, you're lovely. So anyone would be lucky to have you as a sister.
Katherine
Go for it, Leigh.
Lee (Caller)
Thank you.
Chelsea Handler
Okay.
Camila Marrone
You got this. Good luck.
Chelsea Handler
Take care.
Caitlin (Caller)
Thank you. Bye.
Chelsea Handler
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Camila Marrone
I really love this.
Katherine
This is fun.
Chelsea Handler
Isn't it nice to give it advice and talk to people, Talk to real people that you don't know. I love that.
Camila Marrone
I didn't realize like how different but she was different. If it's been thinking if she's been. If it's been like really weighing on her in the past year. It's interesting always when like things come up to you, you know, it's like when you're thinking about someone, you reach out and they're like I was just. I haven't spoken to years but you've been on my mind. So hopefully Lee will be reconnected.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, I hope so. With water all day. That's so crazy that you got two little kids like in your life when you were 18 years old. That's so weird.
Camila Marrone
So weird. And when my dad told me it was first a boy, and then the second one came, like a year later, and it was a girl, and I was so unwell when he told me he was having a girl, I was like, then that means I'm not your only little girl.
Katherine
Oh, no.
Camila Marrone
And what if you love her like you love me? And it was not good, but now
Chelsea Handler
she's my best friend and does your what? I know. It's so funny that kids are so jealous of, like, well, you can be thinking that it's gonna take your love away, because my mom explained this to me once because I was like, how can you love all of us? You know? And she goes, cause your love expands. Like, with each child, your love, your heart grows bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And you just bring them all in. And I was like, but you have to love one of us more. And she would just tell us, I love you the most. I love you the most. And then I would tell my sister. Mom told me. She's like. She tells me that every day.
Camila Marrone
The best thing about being an older sister is I'm like, do you know that dad told me right before you came that no matter what, he's never gonna love you like he loves me. And my sister's like, dad, you know, she's like, I have taken making it my lifemaker to, like, torture them about how much he loves me. And for 18 years, it was all about me.
Katherine
Well, he loved you for 18 years before they even existed. So there you go.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah, exactly. You got the lead.
Camila Marrone
Even having siblings, I do feel like there are favorites in the moment. Like, I love them both to death. But I'm like, oh, I'm really vibing with you right now. Actually, I'm having a moment with you right now. Like, it is interesting. I think you have, like, oh, you're really cool right now. You're in a cool age, you know?
Katherine
Yes.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah.
Camila Marrone
You feel more connected to one than the other on a certain day.
Chelsea Handler
Yeah. And also, like, men always say this to me when I ask them who their favorite kid is. Like, I ask men this a lot. Doctor and stuff. Like, whenever I'm in a doctor's office and. Yeah, doctors, the ones finger blasting you. And I've gotten this answer now three times from men. It's whoever needs me the most.
Camila Marrone
That's interesting.
Chelsea Handler
I know. And I was like, men need to be needed.
Camila Marrone
Yeah, right, right. I was like, right.
Chelsea Handler
But women are very, very much. They they don't like to say that there's a favorite. Men will say. Yeah, I have a favorite.
Camila Marrone
I went with whoever's funnier that day and whoever's like down to hang out with me. I'm like, I like you.
Chelsea Handler
Exactly. Okay. Camilla, you're awesome. I loved having you on and popping your podcast cherry. That was really fun.
Camila Marrone
I'm no longer a virgin.
Chelsea Handler
You're not a virgin. You're gonna walk out this door with a little swagger that you did not have before. Very glowy. So congratulations everyone. You can watch her in all these things. The Night Manager Season two. She's in Daisy Jones and the six. If you haven't seen that already, something very bad is going to happen is now out on and the Age of Innocence will be coming out on Netflix. Love it.
Camila Marrone
Thanks. Yay. Thanks.
Katherine
This was so fun.
Chelsea Handler
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Katherine
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Podcast: Dear Chelsea
Host: Chelsea Handler (with co-host Katherine Law)
Guest: Camila Morrone
Date: April 2, 2026
This episode of Dear Chelsea features actress Camila Morrone for a candid, funny, and heartfelt conversation about her Argentine roots, family, career, superstitions, and womanhood. Camila, best known for "Daisy Jones & The Six," "Night Manager 2," and other upcoming projects, joins Chelsea and Katherine to tackle listener advice calls and share her unique perspective, especially around female ascension, family dynamics, and growing up in LA and New York.
This episode is an engaging mix of celebrity conversation, real-life advice, and comedic rapport. Camila Morrone shines as an honest, down-to-earth guest unafraid to discuss difficult subjects, and Chelsea Handler keeps the energy up with her classic mix of brutal honesty and warmth.
Memorable advice?
Don’t make decisions while in emotional overwhelm, reach out to family when you feel the ping, and always use eyebrow gel.
For more Chelsea, catch her on tour or follow her social (chelseahandler.com). For more Camila, check her in "Night Manager 2," "Daisy Jones & The Six," and upcoming Netflix releases.