Guided with Laura Lynne Jackson

Summary

Dear Chelsea: “Guided” with Laura Lynn Jackson

iHeartPodcasts | February 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and soulful episode, comedian and author Chelsea Handler welcomes her longtime friend and renowned psychic medium, Laura Lynn Jackson, to talk about her new book, Guided: The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life. The conversation seamlessly blends skepticism and sincerity as Chelsea, co-host Katherine Law, and Laura answer listener questions about grief, messages from the afterlife, intuition, and embracing life’s unpredictable, spiritual dimensions. Listeners are treated to moving personal stories, accessible spiritual advice, and encouragement to trust in the unseen bonds that tie us all together.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chelsea’s Relationship with Laura Lynn Jackson and Skepticism about Spirituality

• Chelsea recounts her own experiences relying on Laura’s guidance during pivotal life moments (07:09–09:49).
  • Example: When Chelsea was questioning her breakup or her career, Laura assured her there was a “higher path” or that “Netflix would come back around”—which actually happened.
• Chelsea distinguishes Laura’s authentic approach from others in the spiritual field, crediting her sincerity, kindness, and “maternal, divine, feminine energy” (10:06–10:32).
• Laura affirms: “We all [have intuitiveness], but you get good by practicing for years.” (10:21, Laura Lynn Jackson)

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2. Laura’s Journey: From Teacher to Medium and the Boldness of Listening to Your Soul

• Laura describes leaving her high school English teaching career after a profound “download from the universe” told her to write, teach, and speak about her abilities (11:10–12:24).
• She emphasizes that we all have a soul’s calling and should trust our inner guidance—sometimes life’s detours are assignments the universe needs us to take (12:27–13:53).
  • “Go really quiet sometimes… and find out what your soul is tugging you to…” (12:24, Laura Lynn Jackson)

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3. The Importance of Acceptance, Vulnerability, and Rising Above Hardship

• Chelsea and Laura discuss how processing pain with authenticity and grace, instead of anger or self-pity, creates room for personal growth and collective healing (13:53–15:38).
  • Chelsea: “When you accept and move into acceptance of any situation, everything starts to become easier.” (14:44)
• Chelsea shares her experience of receiving thousands of supportive DMs after speaking openly about her breakup, illustrating how vulnerability invites support and healing (15:38–16:21).

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4. Understanding ‘Signs from the Universe’ and Spiritual Connections

• Laura shares the moving story of two lives unknowingly intertwined—Dr. Michael Shannon saving a premature baby, who 30 years later, as an adult EMT, saves Michael from a crashing SUV (17:54–19:52).
  • “If that’s true for them, it’s true for all of us… We don’t have the whole picture.” (19:52, Laura Lynn Jackson)
• Chelsea and Laura unpack how signs from loved ones aren’t always literal, challenging listeners to question the randomness of “coincidences” and to open their hearts to communication from beyond. (16:46–17:00, 24:20–25:25)
  • Notable: Chelsea’s “orange out of place” as a personal sign from her late mother (38:09–39:47).

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5. Telepathy, Non-Verbal Communication, and Energy

• They reference research from The Telepathy Tapes podcast, in which non-verbal autistic savants demonstrate telepathy—suggesting that thought and energy are real, transmittable forces (21:26–23:10).
• Laura: “Thoughts are energy. Every single thought we have either puts more light into the world or more darkness.” (24:32, Laura Lynn Jackson)

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6. Teams of Light: Spirit Guides, God Energy, and Ancestral Connection

• Laura shares that everyone has a “team of light” composed of:
  1. God energy or pure love.
  2. Spirit guides (“advanced angelic beings”).
  3. Loved ones/pets/ancestors who’ve passed.
• “Our true currency is forgiveness, gratitude, empathy, kindness. So if you’re not exercising those things, you’re not choosing your love path.” (27:57, Laura Lynn Jackson)

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7. Why Do We Encounter ‘Villains’ or Suffering?

• Laura aligns the existence of dark, difficult people with the function of villains in children’s movies—helping us discover our empathy, moral courage, and capacity to help (30:42–33:42).
  • “True power is sharing your gifts so others can rise and share theirs.” (28:03, Laura Lynn Jackson)
  • “If we were all good, we wouldn’t know what good was.” (31:54, Chelsea Handler)

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8. Listener Calls: Grief, Afterlife Signs, & Healing

Call 1: Kayla – Grieving Her Daughter and Husband

• Kayla expresses guilt over not feeling her late daughter’s presence as she does her husband’s. Laura assures her:
  • “She chose you to be her mom… every choice you made for her care was made in love, and that is always the highest path.” (43:02–43:40, Laura Lynn Jackson)
  • Laura shares intuitive hits—future flowers, a forthcoming children’s book with a message, and stresses Kayla’s ongoing bond.
  • Kayla: “The guilt is part of what’s been a major thing of what I’m feeling. So it’s really refreshing to hear you say that.” (48:29)
  • “Moving forward is not leaving us behind. We come with you. We’re part of it all.” (50:22, Laura Lynn Jackson)

Call 2: Jessica – Complicated Grief, Relief & Guilt Over Mother’s Passing

• Jessica wrestles with relief, guilt, and a blocked relationship with her late mom and estranged sister.
  • Laura: “She wants you to know she sees you fully now and she celebrates you. She’s asking for your forgiveness.” (54:31–54:54)
  • Jessica’s mom will send a “butterfly and a chicken” as signs. Chelsea and Laura encourage Jessica to journal, and embrace forgiveness as an ongoing, heart-level process, not a logical instant step.

Call 3: Sarah & Pat – Searching for a Long-Lost Adopted Brother

• Pat and Sarah struggle with how aggressively to pursue contact with Pat’s brother, adopted away at birth, who has not responded to outreach.
  • Laura recommends setting the intention, but surrendering to the brother’s free will and the timing the universe allows:
    • “It might be a process… but if you just give some time and space, out of the blue a year and two months from now, you might get a phone call, an email, a letter…” (70:40–72:59)
  • Katherine shares her own family experience as reassurance: “He might just be on a different—slower—timeline than you, but focus on the feelings of excitement and happiness to help bring them to fruition.” (73:41)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Pain and Grace:
  “This is really about you taking your highest path possible… I am above the noise of this. I am going to rise above this and act with grace and dignity...”
  — Chelsea Handler (07:09–07:56)

• On the Nature of Signs:
  “When you accept and move into acceptance of any situation, everything starts to become easier.”
  — Chelsea Handler (14:44)

• On the Afterlife and Spiritual Support:
  “We are all intertwined—our lives matter and all affect one another… Relationships do not end with bodily death. They actually get stronger.”
  — Laura Lynn Jackson (15:03, 43:02)

• On Intuition and Practice:
  “We all have intuitiveness, but you get good by practicing for years.”
  — Laura Lynn Jackson (10:21)

• On the Role of Villains/Evil:
  “If we were all good, then there would be no contrast… we wouldn’t know what good was.”
  — Chelsea Handler (31:54)

• On Healing and Hope:
  “Do not be dismayed by the brokenness of the world. All things break and all things can be mended… So go love intentionally, extravagantly, unconditionally. The broken world waits in darkness. That is you.”
  — LR Knost, read by Chelsea Handler (34:04)

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Important Timestamps for Segments

• Introductions & Laura’s Bio: 06:35–07:09
• Chelsea’s Spiritual Testimonies: 07:09–09:50
• Laura’s Story: From Teacher to Medium: 10:30–12:24
• Major Spiritual Lessons & Accepting the Unseen: 14:44–15:38 and 21:01–25:25
• Listener Call: Kayla: 41:17–51:14
• Listener Call: Jessica: 52:57–64:27
• Listener Call: Sarah & Pat (Family Reunion Search): 69:07–74:32

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Tone & Style

• Warm, conversational, and sincere—Chelsea’s humor balances Laura’s earnest, gentle delivery.
• Both offer insightful, accessible spiritual ideas without preachiness, emphasizing personal empowerment, letting go, and heart-centered action.
• The podcast oscillates between raw vulnerability, relatable skepticism, compassionate counsel, and uplifting hope.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a testament to the power of love, intention, and belief in life’s mysterious beauty. Chelsea Handler and Laura Lynn Jackson give listeners permission to be vulnerable, encourage them to find meaning in both successes and setbacks, and open the door to conversations with loved ones who have passed. Through deeply personal stories, practical tips for noticing “signs,” and heartfelt responses to listener calls, the episode demonstrates that healing and hope are always available—sometimes in the most unexpected ways.

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Laura Lynn Jackson’s new book, “Guided: The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life,” is available now.

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Notable Quotes:

• “Moving forward is not leaving us behind. We come with you. We’re part of it all.”
  — Laura Lynn Jackson (50:22)

• “You don’t need a medium. You can have these conversations.”
  — Laura Lynn Jackson (52:51)

• “Set your intention—leave that door open, and know you’re coming from the most pure place, but also understand his free will might need a little time.”
  — Laura Lynn Jackson (72:59)

• “Do not be dismayed by the brokenness of the world… go love intentionally, extravagantly, unconditionally. The broken world waits in darkness. That is you.”
  — Read by Chelsea Handler (34:04)

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For anyone navigating grief, seeking meaning, or wondering about the invisible bonds between us, this episode offers comfort, wisdom, and light.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Laura Lynn Jackson]

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Hi, Katherine.

[Katherine]

Hi, Chelsea.

[Erin Levine]

How are you?

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, good. We just came back from a heli ski trip. That was really fun.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Oh.

[Katherine]

So are you, like, dropping out of the helicopter into the snow?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes, yes, basically. But you're not jumping out in your skis. You jump out of the helicopter and then the guide has your skis in, like, a little basket on the side. So it's quite dramatic, actually. You have to, like, sit there and get down while the helicopter takes off. And then snow swirls around and you're.

On the top of a fucking mountain once he leaves. So then you have to ski down.

And you have no choice.

[Katherine]

There are times I worry about your physical safety.

[Chelsea Handler]

There are times where I worry about my physical safety.

I was with my.

My. My Whistler starting four.

We went to Bella Kula Heli skiing.

It was just so ridiculous and fun.

And we shot my birthday video and.

I definitely got hypothermia. So there's that.

And then we tore the lodge up. We were there.

It was like being on safari, but in snow.

And we had one day where we couldn't ski because of.

So that led to drinking and, you know, other things.

[Katherine]

Excellent.

[Chelsea Handler]

And we just really tore that place apart. And I just want to say thank.

You to Bella Coola because they invited us and it was a home run.

Of a trip.

And now I'm getting ready to go home to start.

I'm going home for LA so I can pack for my tour and I start this weekend with dc, Atlantic City and Virginia.

[Katherine]

Yeah, you're doing a bunch of traveling these night.

[Erin Levine]

Are you going?

[Katherine]

You're not going to the Olympics, are you?

[Chelsea Handler]

No, I'm not going to the Olympics.

[Katherine]

Not gonna pop by this time. I know you had mentioned that it was. You had threatened it could happen.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I'm gonna go for my birthday. I've decided to go to Finland and I'm gonna. Yes. I'm gonna go ski under the northern lights, hopefully. Or we're gonna see the northern lights. I'm going with one of my man friend. My only man friend.

I shouldn't say one of mine only current man friend.

My current cowboy man friend. Yeah.

[Katherine]

That's excellent. I'm so excited for you.

[Chelsea Handler]

How are you?

What's happening?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I'm good.

[Katherine]

I'm feeling better. You know, penetration is. Is back in action, so.

[Erin Levine]

Oh, wow.

[Katherine]

Yeah, things are doing great. My marriage is wonderful.

[Erin Levine]

Good.

[Katherine]

You know, I don't know what happened. He's in therapy and, like, he's just been so patient with me lately. It's really nice. I got to tell you. That's so nice.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's a man in therapy.

[Katherine]

Green flags all around.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

We love to see it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. If we could only just get every man in therapy, then we'd be all set. And every woman, obviously. But I think men have a lot more to work out, and they do.

[Katherine]

They need the upgrade, as you have called it. I'm so excited about our guest today. She is just a wonderful human being.

[Chelsea Handler]

Our guest today is an author, teacher, speaker, and psychic medium. Her newest book is called the Secret Path to an Illuminated Life, which is out now. Please welcome my very good friend, Laura Lynn Jackson.

Okay.

[Jessica]

Yay.

[Chelsea Handler]

We're here with Laura Lynn Jackson, you guys, she has a new book out. It's called the Secret Path to an Illumina Illuminated Life. She's a New York Times bestselling author. Also, signs. She wrote Signs from the Universe. Right?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

The Secret Language of the Universe.

[Chelsea Handler]

The Secret Language Signs. The Secret Universe. The Secret Language of the Universe.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

You got it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay. Laura Lynn Jackson has. I've been friends with you for probably 15. 15 years. I talk about you on this podcast all the time. You've helped me in so many times in my life. I remember when I broke up with Jo Koy, I called her to see, like, if it was a permanent breakup or if it was A temporary breakup. And first of all, you're so com. But she always, she said, this is really about you taking your highest path possible. She said, so any anger, anything you feel, just, I just want you to rise up. Like, this is not about, you know, reacting or getting angry or getting, you know, of course I was upset at the time, but she gave me the most powerful advice because I literally took that to heart every single day. I was like, I am above. I am above the noise of this. I am going to rise above this and act with grace and dignity and not talk badly about anybody or say anything negative. And then she said, and you're going to hear from him. And she gave me a three day window. Like six months from that point, she gave me a three day window. And she goes, you're going to hear from him in that three day window six months later. Which by the time, by that point.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I forgot about it, right?

[Chelsea Handler]

I had forgotten about it. But in that time, I didn't hear from him, but I did hear from someone very close to him about him in that timeframe. And that's just one of the times that you have been so dead on about stuff with me. And we have a lot of mutual friends who you've helped too. And then there's other example that I wanna share is I was going through a really difficult time when I started getting back into standup, like, selling my specials. I did my first one with hbo. Then I. I was shopping the second one and everyone was passing on it and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean you're passing on me? Like, I feel like I'm like a legend. Like, what?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

What a legend?

[Chelsea Handler]

I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Nobody thinks nobody wants my special. I couldn't believe it. And I called you and I was so upset. I'm like, maybe my career's over. This is like four or five years ago.

[Katherine]

I was like, the one that you self produced and everything.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I paid for it. And then I ended up paying for it. And then I was like, I'll just sell it once it's made. And Laura said to me, and Netflix had passed on it. Netflix said, we can't afford Chelsea Special.

Or something like that, which was whatever.

And I was like, well, I've gotta.

Get it on a platform.

And Laura goes, netflix is gonna change their mind and they're gonna come back around. And I said, they've already passed. And she said, they're gonna come back around. And guess what? Out of the blue, Netflix called and said, we Wanna buy your special? So, two examples out of a million. So anyway, thank you and welcome to the podcast.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Thank you so much for having me on here. I just love being in conversation with you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, you're the best.

I mean, you've helped so many people. You're such a warm and fuzzy person to have in your life. You have such maternal energy and you have such, like, divine, feminine, if you will energy.

[Kayla]

And.

[Chelsea Handler]

And it's always very. It comes from such a sincere place and it comes from such a place of love. And I know you and I know that you have the gift. So while there are many people who claim to have gifts, I think many people do actually naturally have, you know, intuitiveness. And it's about.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

We all do.

[Chelsea Handler]

Kind of honing your skills, right? Like, really understanding how to. Like, if you practice something multiple times and for years, you're going to get.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Good at that 100%.

[Chelsea Handler]

And that's what you've done. Once you realize that you had a gift because you were in a completely different career.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yes, I was. I was a teacher. Yes. High school English teacher.

[Chelsea Handler]

A high school English teacher. And how did you know that's something that you needed to head in a different direction?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah. I had no intention of ever leaving teaching. I actually loved it. I just felt so connected to all the students. I felt so fulfilled by it. It was just the most loving environment. I got to talk about literature and, like, inner struggles and outer struggles and inner victories and outer ones and all of that. Right? And this ability that I had just got so pronounced after I had my first daughter. And I just started volunteering for an organization called Forever Family foundation in secret, right? And I would just try and help people in grief. And then I volunteered to do a certain evening event and people from my school found out about it and we're like, is this you? And my husband's like, you have to go tell the principal. You might need to stop doing this. So I did tell the principal, but she was super supportive and loving about it. And shortly after that, I went and I sat on my hall duty and I got this insane download from the universe. It was like a seven hour conversation that took place in a millisecond. And they said to me, you're gonna be writing a book. You're gonna go be a teacher of this in the world. You're gonna go be a speaker. This is gonna go. And I thought, like, whoa. So when I get downloads like that, it's not an ask, it's not a question, it's not a Discussion. It's an absolute. So I came home and I told my husband. I was like, I'm gonna be writing a book and I'm gonna be doing this. And he knows enough about this where he's like, okay, let's embrace that. And within 24 hours, everything started lining up where I had somebody offering to be my agent, somebody offering to help, like, with the writing process. It was amazing. It was such a beautiful nod from the universe. And so I wrote my first book. I took a leave of absence from teaching. I hit send on my first book to my editor, which, you know, Julie.

[Chelsea Handler]

We are an editor.

Julie Grau.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

She's amazing.

[Chelsea Handler]

Julie Grau. And now Whitney Frick. We share two editors.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Our paths are entertaining and both of whom are so amazing, right? They're incredible editors, incredible people. But I hit send and I got a download for signs, my second book, right? And I thought, okay, wow. I asked for an extended leave of absence, and they're like, nope, you need to come back or you need to resign. And I had no idea what to do. So I waited for what I call my knowing. And it took a while. And one day about. I say, I got that directive from my district in February. And in July, mid July that year, I woke up from just being asleep. And I had absolute clarity that I was leaving teaching. And I was really sad and at the same time really happy. So I sent him my notice at that point. And that's my story. Like, I trust my journey. I think teaching was such a beautiful career for me, but I think what I'm doing here, I'm still teaching and this is my calling. And I think it's so important to go really quiet sometimes within yourselves and find out what your soul is tugging you to find out what you're being guided to. Because there are all different paths we can take here. Like what you were just talking about when you and Joe broke up. And you took this beautiful high path, like your highest path possible in being so light filled and just being so pure in your own way of being what you did in that moment, you modeled for countless other people how to be so grounded in your own light in the midst of breakup and loss.

[Chelsea Handler]

And to be vulnerable in a way when I was heartbroken, to be vulnerable and not try to pretend anything else other than the reality was going on, which is something that, you know, if you hadn't said that to me, I would have just protected myself and not shared anything, you know? And I was like, oh, yes. And you are one of the only people That I can hear talk about the universe and not wanna throw up. Because I understand what this book is, which is a beautiful recollection of so many people's stories and anecdotes about them receiving messages from people who they love that lost. But when you really tune in to what you taught me is that when you really tune in to the universe and really accept the fails or the misses without letting it knock you over.

And just go, well, that's not meant to be. Literally, it's not meant to be.

And let it go, then everything starts coming together in a much more universal way. You see the sign. You see the signs. You know, like, when you accept and you move into acceptance of any situation, everything starts to become easier.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

It's so true when you surrender that. And I think things that don't work out for us are profound lessons, too. And they build us and they shift us and they create. But I wanna say, too, when you were so willing to show your authenticity and vulnerability to everybody, you were guiding people. Here's the thing. We are all intertwined, like all our lives matter and all affect one another. And so what a great platform that was for everybody to witness your grace, your power, your light, because it informed them on their own journeys. Right. It's so beautiful.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. And I remember the next day. Cause I had done Glennon Doyle's and Abby's podcast. We could do hard things. And I just let it rip on that. And I woke up the next morning and there were literally 4,000 DMs from people.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I believe it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Saying, thank you so much for being honest about your breakup. Thank you for being vulnerable. And that in itself, reading all of those DMs just healed me. Like, I was healed. I was like, oh, I just put out my honesty. And I got back, like, a whole big hug from the universe. So we're gonna say universe a lot in this episode, you guys, so bear with us. And then I would say, you know, with all my house drama that I've talked about on this podcast and all that mess, I definitely have shifted out of that energy phase.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I love it.

[Chelsea Handler]

I've now understood, like, I had to go to Mallorca. I had to be alone. I had to not drink for a few weeks, eat healthy, work out, reset. But when I called her, which was more than once about this house, I was like, laura, what is the lesson? Why is this going on worth so much money? So much. I'm never. I don't have a home.

It's been four years. I felt it Felt so taken advantage of.

And what did you tell me every time?

[BetterHelp Ad Narrator]

I don't know.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

What did I tell you? You told me.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's funny. You told me.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

It comes from me, it comes through me.

[Chelsea Handler]

She said repeatedly, this is not your lesson. This is someone else's karma. This is not your karma.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Don't get into it. Don't even.

[Chelsea Handler]

You're like.

You're just here as a vessel. This is not your lesson. And I'm like, as a vessel. And she said, because you. You a. You can get through this. You can afford all of this, so it's better like it's happening to you because you can absorb it. And it's not about you. It's about other people within this situation.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

And their lessons and what they were navigating or not doing a good job. Navigating. Right.

[Chelsea Handler]

And the first time, I didn't hear you. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And then the second time. Cause I was in Mallorca and we spoke briefly, we'll audio message back and forth. And she said it and it clicked because I was in a space to hear it where I was finally calm and relaxed. And I was like, this isn't the end of the world, you know. Okay, so I wanna talk about one of the stories in your introduction, which is about a doctor. And so I want you to tell us this story. The book opens with this beautiful universal connection between two souls. And so tell us the story.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

So the book opens with a really quick snapshot of two stories. It's like, I wanna tell you two stories. The first takes place in 1981, and it's a doctor who is. Has a premature little baby he's caring for. And there's a 50, 50 chance this baby may survive. But this doctor is so committed, he just stays overnight. He doesn't sleep. He's so focused on willing this little baby to live. And the baby does live. That's the first happy story. The second story takes place 30 years later. And there's a man driving an SUV down the highway in California. And suddenly a semi tractor truck comes out of nowhere, slams into him. His SUV is pinned against the wall and it catches fire. He can't get out. But so luckily there are paramedics coming back from a call nearby, and they just happen to be there at the right time. And they extinguish the fire. They get the jaws of life, get him out, and the man lives. But the thing is, it's not two separate stories. It's the same one. Because the man in the SUV is the doctor, Michael Shannon, who had saved the premature baby's life. And the EMT who saves him is Chris Troche, the premature baby whose life he had saved 30 years before. And that is just a really quick snapshot of the magic that exists, the interconnectedness of all our lives. Because if that's true for them, it's true for all of us. That one just happens to be one we can look at and see really clearly in hindsight how profound those connections are. Are. But I think for all of us. You know, the other side has told me that we all save other people's lives and we're none the wiser until we cross one day do our life review, and then we're like, oh, my gosh, I did that. So our own view of our own lives and what we deem as success or failures of what we're really doing here is so myopic. It's so limited. We don't have the whole picture.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes. That's something worth pausing on and highlighting. Because we all get so caught up, especially in the society in which we live today. We get so caught up in the moment. I know I do. I'm so guilty of it, of getting small when I should be, you know, higher. Like, I wanna be the cloud. I don't wanna be the storm. I wanna be the cloud above Liza.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's a great analogy.

[Chelsea Handler]

And it's so important to remember everything does seem to work out. You know what I mean? For the most part, everything does seem to work out. And when you subscribe to this theory that she's talking about, like, I love when you talk about life, reviews and the afterlife and that there is an afterlife, and that when people send you messages, like, I remember asking you this question, being confused. And I think from reading this book, I figured it out. If someone's in the afterlife, like, if my mom is sending me oranges, which is my symbol with my mom, if my mom's sending me oranges, then is she also. Has she been reincarnated? Cause how did she have time to be in the afterlife if she's in the. If she's being. You know, and then I'm like, well, wait, if we're believing in all of that, then people can be everywhere at the the same time. That doesn't mean that she's not here. That just means she's still with me. You got it right.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's so true. And our concept here of time is so linear. It's like this canvas that moves forward on the other side, time doesn't really exist. And our soul energy is always really there. We're never separate from each other, from those we love. This is more like a virtual reality we beam into. And these brains are really just like dunce caps, you know, they're not the source of our consciousness. They're like limiting our consciousness so that we can't remember all the truth that we know.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

And there's a section of the book where you talk about the telepathy tapes, that podcast that's about autistic children and how they have gifts. They have, you know, some of their perceptions and their abilities are like, if you can't speak, that would heighten the rest of your other senses, you know, theoretically.

Right.

And I think that's kind of like in the chapter you talk about showing a number behind. Like, is it a window or.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah. What the research started with was Dr. Diane Hennessy Powell started researching autistic savants who seemingly could calculate these incredible digits just like that. But in time, as she researched, she realized what was going on was that these children who were savants were actually telepathically seeing the number that their caregiver had on a calculator. They weren't calculating it, they were reading the person's mind. And then that research led into understanding that these children, many of who are non verbal, so they. Which means they use an Alphabet board to communicate, or sometimes they type, or some can be verbal. They share that not only are they telepathic with the people they love, like their mom, their dad, their teachers, but with each other and their mediums. So they're in communication with people who are no longer in a physical body and getting all sorts of messages at all times.

[Chelsea Handler]

Right.

So like, even so in this study, and if you've ever listened to that podcast, telepathy tapes.

Have you?

Yeah, I listened to a few episodes of that. Because it's like in this study, you could write down a number on a board, you could not show the number, and just because the person is thinking that number and wrote it down, the kid knows exactly what it is before it's even just because the thought is out there. So it's like, you know, I mean, what is that called?

[Katherine]

Are they like telepathic?

[Chelsea Handler]

Telepathic, yeah. Right. Or telepathic.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

And are they tapping into like, universal intelligence?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

So it's interesting, like, it seems to be that they know all sorts of things that they were never taught about history. They know great works of literature that they've never read, and what they've shared is that when they go to this place they call the Hill, which is very similar to where I go when I read. And actually, I did some work with one of the girls, and she took me to the Hill, which was fascinating. But there are people who lived here on Earth who were great thought leaders or writers or change agents who are still so invested in our world and helping us. And it's those people and it's all that knowledge that exists, and they can download a millisecond. So it's fascinating. They know so much and they've experienced so much. They actually. If they're. Let's say, the girl that I've worked with, her name's Amelia. Her mom listened to signs on her earbuds like, Amelia couldn't have heard it at all. And Amelia knew everything from the book and said she wanted to meet the cool book lady because she had heard all and felt my energy through the book. It's fascinating how these things unfold, and what it really shows is how interconnected we all are all the time.

[Chelsea Handler]

Right.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

We just can't see it.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

But it makes you want to hone those skills, you know, to really like. To really tune into other people, to know that even if you're having a thought, like, if you're having a negative thought that affects the energy in the room.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

You nailed it. You nailed it. What I have come to understand from all the research I've done, and I do really deep dives on, like, quantum research and what this means, and thoughts are energy. They're light energy. And every single thought we have either puts more light into the world or more darkness. It is an energy exchange. That's it. So what do we do when we have, like, negative thoughts, too? Because that's a very real state of being human. We catch ourselves. We recognize that we're having them, and we talk over them gently with positive thoughts. You know, if you wake up and you're like, today's gonna be the worst day, blah, blah, blah, you have to catch yourself and go, like, actually, no, today and being alive here on Earthschool is a gift. And I'm so excited to see what my team of light unfolds for me. The people, the experiences, the situations that are gonna be brought into my path. And I hope that I just keep my mind heart open to recognize the spiritual gift in it. Yeah, that's all you do.

[Chelsea Handler]

And a fun game also is when you have a negative thought is to, like, flip it upside down. Like, oh, God, I can't Believe I have to go deal with this. And you're like, how fun is this gonna be? You know, like, you kind of play a game until you. And then you're kind of amusing yourself. You're like, okay, let's see how good I can make this love there.

Yeah.

What a fun adventure to go, you know, deal with my contractor again.

How fun.

Like, what a fun challenge. This is exciting. Maybe this will be our last meeting. You know, that kind of attitude really does change the vibration. And when you talk about. So Laura talks all the way. I mean, she uses the term teams of light. Like, we all have a team of light. Does everyone have a different. Everyone obviously has a different team of light. Does anyone, like, any of these light workers work for multiple team. I mean, work on multiple teams?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

It's so interesting. Sometimes I suspect there are teams of light that have been brought here on Earth and that our guides kind of work together and know each other. Because I've seen, like, collective energy is so much more powerful than individual. So when we connect with others or we come together in a cause or have an idea of, like, how we wanna help others, and then we get other people on board. It's this, like, expansive expanse of light. So everybody's team of light is three parts, right? The thing we all share is the God energy part. I see God as this force of just love and connection that's inherent in our being and guiding us every single day. And the real lesson there is love. Like, always default to love, right? And our true currency is forgiveness, gratitude, empathy, kindness. So if you're not exercising those things, you're not choosing your love path, right? And you're distancing yourself a little bit. But the second and third part of everybody's teams of light are different. The second part is what I call spirit guides. What throughout time and history, religions have called guardian angels. It's a concept of these advanced angelic beings who guide us. And we each have spirit guides. They're very unique to us. They're nobody we knew this lifetime. They're advanced angelic beings that our souls contracted with before we came here to Earth school to kind of guide us and lead us and, you know, get us on our highest path. And I think some people have this really acute awareness. Like, they've done meditations or they've had dreams or visions, and they're like, I know what my guide looks like, and this is his name. And other people are like, yeah, I don't even know. I just kind of feel, you know, sometimes thoughts are Put in my mind or I have got feelings. And like, that's how your team of light's gonna communicate. And then the third part is anybody you loved who's crossed, including pets and also including ancestors that are in your lineage who you might not have met. They are all loving you, guiding you, invested in your journey. It's really beautiful.

[Chelsea Handler]

So what about the people that are assholes? Seriously, like, what about terrible people?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah, right? Well, so let's put them in two different categories. Cause there's like, the a hole people who are just, like, not getting their lessons, making everybody's life annoying, right? Being really stubborn and stuck. And then there are who come and do, like, really dark, evil things. And like, usually the people who come and do really dark, terrible things, there's one thing they have in common. And it's a misunderstanding of what true power is, right? Because what the other side has taught me is what true power is. It's not about having power over somebody, manipulating people, making people bow down to you, being like, look what I have and you don't. I control this. It's not about control. It's not about any of that. True power is finding the gifts you came here with, right? We each have this, like, light and gift within us, honoring them, sharing them with others to help elevate others to find their gifts and share them. So there's this ripple effect, this domino effect of light in the world. And true power is learning that all ships rise with the tide. It's learning that what we're really here for is to be empathetic to one another, is what happens to one person happens to you. Because when you leave here and you're not in a physical body, you download everybody else's experiences instantly, we all do become one in this kind of greater consciousness. So you can understand and feel something that someone else went through their entire life. So I think that we need to really understand the difference between those two forms of power. So now let's back it up. What happens to the relatives who's just made your life really hard, you know, was very judgmental, and now is on the other side, that person does a life review. And I can tell you from all these readings I've done, they will show up immediately and ask for you to forgive them, because that's part of their soul path. There is always accountability on the other side, when we do our life review, it doesn't take place in real, like, time, right? It's instant. And in that instant, we relive everything, not just from our own perspective, but from the people we were interacting with and how we made them feel. We also understand, like, how we affected others, what our energy on earth here did. The light, it left, how it still, you know, playing out in the world is beautiful. And so there's accountability that happens. So I'm not saying that when you cross the other side, you have to spend time with the relatives who was so awful. Right. But I am saying that they're gonna greet you and say that they're sorry. And then maybe they'll be in a different, you know, apartment level. You know, you might be in the penthouse and they might be on the third floor.

[Chelsea Handler]

But like, someone like Donald Trump who comes in and just creates havoc, pain, hurt, what, what. Obviously that person is missing. Any sort of in touch, you know, like, spiritual side. There's no spiritual. But why do we have to deal with it?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Okay, so I want to. Let's talk about, like, what we were really saying is, like, what is the role of villains and what is the role of evil? Yes. What is that? So let's talk about Disney movies. Let's roll it back a little.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Did you see Disney movies when you were little? Right.

[Chelsea Handler]

Fortunately, I've seen a couple of movies.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Talk about, like, what is it? Like 101 Dalmatians? My kids love that movie. And there is such a villain in that movie. And it's Cruella de Vil, and she literally wants to. To skin these little puppies. I mean, you don't get darker than that in life, right?

[Katherine]

No.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

So when children are watching it, when I'm watching it, when my kids were young, like, what am I learning from the role of the villain? What do we derive from that? Well, it's a call to action in our hearts and in our minds and in our energy. It's about standing up for the voiceless. It's about finding that you do care and that you're willing to stand up for somebody else, not just focused on yourself. It's about being able to identify when somebody has a false sense of power or is disengaged from humanity. Right. And I think that observation teaches us about who we are on the inside. It basically makes us accountable to ourselves.

[Chelsea Handler]

Because if we were all good, then there would be no contrast. Listen, we wouldn't know what good it was.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

And we're all. Yeah, and we're all two on different levels here, right? So some of us are teachers for each other, Some of us are healers for each other, and some of us are, like, raising our hands on the Other side being like, I'll play the villain so that you can learn against me. You know, Like Fred Rogers said his mother used to always like Mr. Rogers, he said his mother used to always say, when great tragedies happen, don't focus on the tragedy or what was done. Focus on the helpers that run in. And that's where the meaning of life is. That's why we're here, to love one another, to make life better for each other, to support one another. And I think that we maybe have to give a little grace at times because people get very lost in the cacophony of what this materialistic is telling them is success or power or those things. And it might take a little longer to unpack or unprocess my download right now for all of us, because times are very dark right now and it can be really upsetting and discouraging and it can make people feel so powerless to help others. Right. What my guides told me it's so important right now for us to all tend our own gardens and do, like, small acts of kindness however we can. And they reminded me of the butterfly effect, which is like, we can do one little thing in the world and it can have the most profound ripple effects. And if you look at history in reverse, you can actually trace back, like major historical events to like one small decision somebody made somewhere, you know? And so I think that if we're all just focused on our own light, like, we don't focus on the darkness, like, don't stare into the abyss. We focus on whatever gifts we came here with. We focus on our light and we focus with sharing it with others. We can bring about powerful change and transformation in ways we can't imagine. Like my guides told me, like, smiling at somebody in a coffee shop on a Monday in New York could save somebody's life in Africa on a Friday. And that's mind boggling to me.

[Chelsea Handler]

I love that.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's the chain of light and goodness.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes.

And so always choose that. And on that note, I just wanna read a little quote. This is from LR Nast. This is a quote in Laura's book. Do not be dismayed by the brokenness of the world. All things break and all things can be mended, not with time, as they say, but with intention. So go love intentionally, extravagantly, unconditionally.

The broken world waits in darkness. That is you.

Which says everything you just said. I mean, encapsulates it all, which is so true because it's a great reminder not to just die in despair and not to ever give up. Like we have a responsibility to shine brighter when the things get darker.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah, you are the light. That's the message. We all have that light within.

[Chelsea Handler]

And with that, we're gonna take a break and turn the lights back on and we will be right back with Laura Lynn Jackson after the Big Game. Like everyone else, I had opinions about the commercials because of course I did. And there was one that I couldn't.

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[Chelsea Handler]

And we're back.

With Laura Lynn Jackson. Her new book is called Guided make sure you order a copy style. Actually, go support your local bookstores and.

Go get a hard copy. Please people, go into your bookstores and buy. It's called the Secret Path to an Illuminated Life and it's filled with so many hopeful stories about if you are heartbroken and you are feeling lost and you've lost someone meaningful. It is filled with so much comfort about how to get in touch with your loved ones. And I know from experience it's worked for me a million times. I did it most recently in Mallorca. I asked my mom to show me an orange out of place and I went to did I tell this story already? I asked my mom to show me an orange out of place and I had lost touch with my through this whole house fiasco and the stress of it all, plus my menopause, I found out I had no estrogen. A lot of things were happening but I'm feeling much better and I said I'm so sorry for not being in touch. I said to like my mom. I'm like, can you just show me an orange out of place? If it's, you know, everything's okay and we're Good. And everything is starting. The tides are changing for all of this negativity. And I went to this artist's house to look at her sculptures, and she had a huge painting, and she was a sculptor, not a painter. And she goes, oh, this is the only. She's like, this is the only time I've ever painted fruit. And guess what? All the fruit was there. And then there was a huge orange out, but the orange had a bite out of it. That's amazing. And I was like, oh, that's my mom being like, yeah, that's my mom calling me at 4 o' clock in the morning, going, hi, just checking in. So, yeah, so that was cute.

[Katherine]

I love that.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's so powerful. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

So you gave me that gift about that orange. So whenever I need an orange, I get one, but it can't be at a grocery store, so you have to choose, like, everyone. And this book really takes you through it. Like, for every person, it's different. It's whatever means something to you and the person you've lost. But there is such a comfort in knowing that the energy isn't gone. And it's not just make believe. It's scientific. It's scientific that energy doesn't die, it transfers. So it turns into something else. And they want to tell us they're okay. You know, they want to get in touch with us. So you have to be open to the idea of it. Even my two sisters, who were a little bit. Thought I was a little shady in.

The beginning with all of this, now.

Have come around, and they'll be like, I saw mom today. You know, da, da, There was a hummingbird outside my window.

I love that.

Yeah, well, and it is so funny.

[Katherine]

Too, because there are a lot of stories in the book where you're talking about someone who asks for a sign and they get the sign. They're like, can't be that. And then they get the same sign again, and they're like, well, maybe it's. And then there's a third day.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's like, I don't believe you. Now I need a dolphin jumping over a shark. You're like, what? How greedy can you be?

[Katherine]

We're ready for callers.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jessica]

Right?

[Katherine]

Our first caller today is Kayla, and she says, dear Chelsea, I love listening to the podcast. I appreciate the guaranteed laughter and blunt honesty every week. A couple of years ago, I listened to the finding your highest path episode with Laurelin Jackson, which led me to read her book signs. Ever since I was young, I've Always felt a spiritual connection with the world. I'm now 31 years old.

[Jessica]

Old.

[Katherine]

I lost my husband when I was 24. And I lost my daughter right after I turned 28. Both of their deaths were very tragic. After my husband passed, I got signs from him all the time. But I never really knew if they were actual signs or just coincidences that I chalked up to being signs. Once I read Laura's book, I knew I wasn't crazy anymore and the signs were real. But I still find myself being skeptical. Especially because I don't feel like I get signs from my daughter like I do my husband. There were so many things left unsaid between my husband and I since he died unexpectedly. I feel the signs from him keep us connected, but it isn't always clear what he's trying to convey. My daughter was diagnosed with a neuromuscular disease three months after my husband passed. She lost her ability to talk right after he died. So there's a lot of things that went unsaid with her as well. So many things I wish I could talk to her about. I doubt myself as a mother fulfilling her needs. I worry she wasn't happy with the choices I made for her when she didn't have a voice. Voice. I find myself thinking maybe that's why I don't get signs from her. My heart is broken without her and without the signs from her. My husband and I had two kids together, so it's been me and my son trying to navigate this crazy life together. Life is beginning to have color again. I'm now engaged and have a healthy seven week old baby. But there are questions still left unanswered. I still feel like a reading from someone like Lauren Jackson could change my life and possibly make the connection between me and my daughter stronger. Or if not from her, how do I go about finding a psychic medium that's legit. Kayla. And we've got Kayla here with us.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, Kayla.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Hello. Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

You have Laura Lynn Jackson right here.

Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

No.

[Kayla]

This is amazing.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, look at you. You're so beautiful and vibrant and congratulations on your new baby.

[Kayla]

Thank you so much.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Okay. Can I jump in?

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

All right. So first of all, it's so lovely to meet you. I'm so sorry for your physical losses of your husband and your daughter. I have so that I was getting as downloads as you were reading it. The first thing I wanna say is you're carrying a lot of guilt that doesn't belong to you at all. So I wanna tell you what I was feeling as I was listening to your words, was that you were the most incredible loving presence for your daughter while she was here on Earth. I also wanna tell you, she chose you to be her mom. And she knew, and you knew on a soul level before you agreed to this, that she would not be here. Like, but her lesson was one of love. And this is really important for you to hear because for you to be still here on Earth thinking that in any way you may have failed her is completely untrue. You taught her the exact lesson her soul needed to feel that unconditional love. And every choice you made for her care was made in love. And that is always the highest path and the right choice. So I think what's going on is, you know, this frontal lobe of our brain is where 98% of our brainwave activity takes place during our daily activities. And it's very chattery and logical based, and it's also very mean. And it'll tell us lies about the narrative of our lives and what we've done. And I think yours has been telling you it's been really nitpicking and saying, you didn't do this, right? You didn't do that, right? Rather than focusing on what a force of law you were and are for her. Because relationships do not end with bodily death. They actually get stronger. And I also have this sense, and this might sound a little odd, but I almost feel like your husband and she had this sort of soul contract that he would arrive there before she did and then greet her. And I think you've had that moment where that occurred to you, like almost in a spiritual sense, and then maybe you just dismissed it or pushed it away. But I think me saying that to you, you already know. It's the other thing I want to say is I am never. And a psychic medium is never your loved one's first choice. They'll come to us and through us because of their love for you, but it's never what they want. They want to talk directly to you every single day and get through to you every day. Not like at a scheduled appointment that's taken this long and for this short amount of time. Think of it like if you were to go to lunch with your husband and your daughter, right? And you're sitting at a table and then I show up and I'm like, hey, guys, guys, I'm here. And you can't talk to each other. You have to talk to me and I'll pass along the messages. That's what it's like. So for you to just open your mind and heart and recognize that you're already in direct communication with them, I think, is everything. The tools are within you. You don't need anybody else to do this. That's where I think it's really important to get over two major obstacles when it comes to feeling our loved ones on the other side with us and getting their guidance and their inspiration and getting the downloads from them and seeing their presence in our. And the two obstacles are fear and doubt. So fear is the idea of, like, first of all, I'm afraid I might not be able to do this, or I'm afraid these abilities might not exist. Because the materialistic paradigm we're raised in, if you can't see it, touch it, taste it, smell it, it's not real, right? But the truth is there's unseen energy all around us, and we are energy. And energy and matter, even Einstein said, are interchangeable. So the truth is, unseen energy and energy in general is the only truth of our existence. We're not really solid beings. The chairs we're sitting on are not solid. We're just fast vibrating atoms made of light that appear solid, solid. So when you understand that, I think it's easier to conquer the fear of, like, this can't exist because it does. And then the doubt is the next thing, right? The doubt is when I get a sign, or when I think I feel my loved one around me, or when I've had a dream visitation, or when I have a knowing, or when a thought comes to me and I feel like it's from my daughter or my husband on the other side, how do I trust in it? Because you are locked in this frontal lobe, which is based in logic. So it's always going to try and reject, Reject the spiritual experience and tell you it's a coincidence. It's not. It's a sign. If you have that moment where you're like, I think this was a sign, or I think this was a communication from the other side, it is. And you don't need validation from anybody for that. You know, my sense is that I feel your husband and daughter around you so much, and I even feel them like celebrating so beautifully this new path of life that you're on and that you were guided into this next experience that you're having in this most beautiful. They want you healed, they want you whole. They want you engaged in life. They want you celebrating the force of love that you are in this world. You know, I think, too, and this is gonna sound a little funny, but somebody's gonna be giving you flowers soon. Like, flowers, and it's really from them, and it hasn't happened yet, so wait and see. But when you get them, I think there might even be, like, more meaning in whatever the card says or whatever types of flowers these are. You're gonna have to see, but you're gonna understand how beloved and guided you are. They want you living the best version. And what your husband on the other side is telling me is like you're teetering on, like, trusting that and diving into it. This is. I feel like this phone call and this letter is that final moment where it's almost like releasing the helium balloon of the guilt or the grief or everything you've been holding onto into the air and knowing that that's what they want for you and the most beautiful path ahead.

[Kayla]

Okay. That is very, very refreshing to hear. Definitely. The guilt is part of. Of, you know, what's been a major thing of what I'm feeling. So it's really refreshing to hear you say that. The fact that, you know, you hit it on the head with him being there before she was. As soon as she got diagnosed, I felt like that was why. That was kind of the reason why he passed away. He was meant to be there for her, which made me feel better when her time came, like her dad was there for her.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I'm sorry to interrupt. They're just telling me more while you're talking. I want to bring up two things around your daughter, too, like you still having her stuffed animal. And also, have you been reading a book to your son? Did somebody just give you a book for your baby? Like, I'm seeing a children's book. This is why I'm asking.

[Kayla]

I did have someone message me and ask if I had a book this morning. They messaged me and said, do you have this book?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Okay. Do you have that book?

[Chelsea Handler]

Not yet.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Okay. When you get that book that they're gonna send you, I want you to go to the last two pages of it. And I don't know what book this is or what it's gonna say, but your daughter's telling me there's a message from her to you in it, and I want you to read it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

And it will all make sense.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Kayla]

Awesome.

[Chelsea Handler]

And I wanna just say something from listening to this. Like, look at how many people got to get your love in this lifetime.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

If you look at that, you got all of this love that you got to share around, and it was all predestined. And your daughter knew that she was gonna be there for a short time, and she chose you. And now you have another son, and in addition to your first son and you have a new husband. Like, this is. You have a lot of love to give, and that's what you're here to do.

[Kayla]

Yeah, that's definitely a better way of looking at it. That makes me feel a lot better. Thank you for that.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I need to say one more thing, because as you're saying this, too, they love what you just said, first of all. But they also said, please know that moving forward is not leaving us behind. We come with you. We're part of it all.

[Kayla]

Thank you so much. That's it, really. Like I said in my message, I knew that being able to just have that opening, that communication puts me at ease.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah. And you have that within yourself. And I also feel like sometimes you have this. You feel them around. You just feel them around. Especially at night when you're going to sleep, they are right there with you. It's when you can kind of tune in the most to them. I mean, they're with you all the time, but that's when you feel them a lot, and they love that.

[Kayla]

Thank you.

[Chelsea Handler]

And way to keep it together during this phone call, Kayla. Cause I'm a mess over here.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

And you're a force of light and goodness and love.

[Chelsea Handler]

We're sending you you lots and lots of love.

[Katherine]

Thank you for calling in, Kayla.

[Kayla]

Okay. Yes. Thank you so much. You guys have a great day.

[Chelsea Handler]

You too. You too, Laura.

[Katherine]

How do you not just, like, cry all of the time?

[Chelsea Handler]

You know?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's such an excellent question. Right. Especially when it comes to children on the other side. So for me, the experience, it's so hard to describe, but it's all love. I feel no sense of loss because I know the person's not physically here, and I know there's been a physical loss, but they're so alive and vibrant. It's never a question for me. It's the most beautiful truth. And I can feel, like, their personality, their energy, their love that comes through me to the person here. So I can't be sad when I'm feeling so much love.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's a nice way to look at.

It and think about it. Yeah. Because we always think of loss, loss, loss, grief. And, like, instead of grief is love.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

And, you know, just to reiterate what you've said, like, you don't need a medium. You can have these conversations. But I will also say my sister, she. Several years ago, actually, after the call, we. She went and found someone else from the Forever Family foundation where everybody's been vetted and they have all, you know, really wonderful people working with them. And she actually had a reading with one of them and it was, it was one of those things we were talking about before Chelsea got here of like it's not, it wasn't necessarily about her, but it was about all these people around her and she had messages for like so many people in her life. It was very interesting.

[Jessica]

That was beautiful.

[Katherine]

Yeah. There are a few things for her, but yeah, yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I don't wanna ever discredit a mediumship session. I know how sacred is for me when I do it. It's just so, so like beautiful to be part of. I just want everybody to know they don't need it.

[Katherine]

Right, right.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

You don't need it.

[Katherine]

You can, you know, talk to somebody.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I'm the anti business model. Like nobody needs me.

[Chelsea Handler]

You got this.

[Katherine]

Well, our next caller is Jessica and she says, dear Chelsea, my mom passed away last year from stage four breast cancer. We put each other through a lot of trauma over my lifetime. My daughter and I lived with her for 5ish years, most of my kids life. And we weren't in a good place when she, she died. Additionally, I had a serious fight with my younger sister after our mom passed away. She and I haven't spoken since December, I think because of things she said to me. So I'm having some tough feelings around that. My daughter was initially acting out after my mom died and while that's lessened, she misses grandma a lot. Obviously I have a lot of complicated feelings about my mom and it's hard to know how to help her. I don't have a desire to talk about my mom and when she has big emotions about grandma, I freeze up and don't know how to react, act. I'm usually really good about helping her through big emotions, but anything to do with my mom is incredibly difficult for me. All in all, I can't manage the conflicting feelings of relief and guilt I've been dealing with the last year. I know Chelsea has a lot of advice on grief and caring for family. I feel like I should have been more gracious with my mom and sister. And if I stop to think about it, it tears me up. I have been holding off on submitting because it means I have to talk about it, but I feel like the universe is telling me to get over it and try. Thanks so much. I. Jessica.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, Jessica.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi.

[Jessica]

How are you?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

We're good.

[Chelsea Handler]

And you're stuck. You Have a blockage?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Laura's gonna help you.

[Jessica]

Is it my Internet or my actual blockage?

[Chelsea Handler]

No, you have a blockage.

[Jessica]

With your blockage of my Internet, you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Have a soul blockage.

We're gonna unblock you.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Well, first, I want to compliment you, because by writing in, that means you're ready to hear. And what I know about our time here on Earth is that the highest path we can find is forgiveness, empathy, and healing. And I truly feel that your mom kind of nudged you to write in and do this because she's ready to apologize and to thank you. I think when she was here, this is how I'm getting it. She wasn't good at that stuff. She was good at demanding stuff and criticizing and expecting. It's almost like a sense of entitlement. And I will tell you, when she crossed and did her life review, it was a lot to take in for her. But I will tell you, I don't have the sense that when she was here, and this is how she's giving it to me, it's like she didn't know better. She didn't do it maliciously or on purpose. She was just unevolved. And that the fact that she wasn't evolved led her to be cruel at times. She wants you to know she sees you fully now and she celebrates you. She's asking for your forgiveness, and she says you don't have to give it right now in front of everybody, but she's asking for it. She understands that she should have been the mother and she should have shown up for you emotionally and that instead she put you in that role. She also wants me to tell you she's learning from you so much about what it means to be a mother by watching how you mother. She's kind of funny when it comes to the thing with your sister. Cause she's like, ah, you're both wrong. It's almost like, you know, like to not get too caught up in that. It'll work itself out. There's a lot of valid feelings you have. And I think that when we're here on Earth, the way, you know, you and your sister are right now, you can kind of get stuck a little bit. And it can be hard to see the bigger picture, to see what's really going on. And I have a sense, like, in time, that's gonna work itself out. But she is ask you to, this is the way I would like to phrase it, default to love. And she says that's actually how you are in life. You always default to Love. You try and act tough on the outside, but you always default to love, and you do kind things. Do animals tend to really like you, by the way? Like, do animals come up to you, or.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yeah. In fact, we. We live with my dad now, and one of their dogs, like, hates me, and I cannot explain what to do.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

You know, it's so funny, because I think, too, I want to give you a little, you know, puzzle piece here. Animals see spirit, okay? And I think your mom's literally been, like, walking by you this whole time. And I don't think it's you that the dog's reacting to. I think the dog's like, wait a minute. What is going on here? So that could be part of it, but I feel like your light is very bright and other people see it, even though you try to hide it. And I think you've had to guard it, especially in the past with your relationship with your mom, because she didn't honor it in the right way. And what was making you vulnerable and beautiful almost became a perceived weakness because she wouldn't honor it. And she would kind of take advantage at times. Not necessarily on purpose, but just because of how she was. She is thanking you for all you did for her and the ways you cared for her, especially at the end, in spite of how she acted. Did we lose her?

[Katherine]

We might have lost.

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't want to say anything to interrupt the flow of energy, but I also feel something. Ooh, you're okay. Like, I can feel what you're talking about. Like, I can feel her mom's energy.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yes. Okay, you need to talk about this.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, I mean, I just. Everything you're saying. Oh, hey, we had you. Jessica, I'm so sorry.

[Jessica]

I.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's okay.

[Jessica]

Move to a different place. I have not had an issue with my video here, so that's.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's. That's.

Your mother does, like, they surge energy.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yep. But, Chelsea. Chelsea, share what you just said.

[Chelsea Handler]

I just. When you were coming in and out. Jessica. Like, I. What Laura is saying. Like, I could. Right before she said everything, Like, I could just feel your mother swoop in, like, her energy swooping in, saying, like, I'm here to talk to you now. Like, I have my opportunity, and I'm gonna say everything that I wanna say to you. Like, I could feel her energy, and it was strong.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah, she is strong. And I wanna tell you what I was getting too. That she said to validate all this for you so that, you know, this really is her. And she's apologizing. Right. She's gonna send you two signs. And these sound a little like, unrelated, but this is how I'm getting it. She showed butterfly and a chicken. I don't know how those are gonna come to you, but when you see them, and I don't think they have any meaning to you right now, let me be clear, they just sound wacky. But when you get them, you're gonna know this is her. I feel like she's got a little sense of humor about it too. So you'll have to see how that plays out in your life. But please know to open your mind and heart to be looking for those signs. And she said in the brief time that we got disconnected, you've already forgiven her.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Chelsea Handler]

Have you?

[Jessica]

No. I mean, maybe not.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Not up here. Not in your head. I'm not talking about your head. I'm talking about your heart and soul. Okay. Your head's gonna take a while to catch up with it. Like the monkey mind that chatters, like the logical part, you're gonna take a while to unpack that. But what I know just happened because she told me is that healing just took place. So in your heart, in that soul energy, you've forgiven her. Even though logically now you're gonna work it out for a while.

[Katherine]

Laura, can you talk a little bit about how sometimes our relationships with people who have passed can improve even though they're not here with us?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Oh, absolutely. You know, because I think when people who were stuck in beliefs or limited or unevolved while they were here cross and do a life review and take accountability, it changes our relationships dramatically. We now can have these stronger and beautiful relationships with people we love, and they can show show up for us in ways that they couldn't when they were here. And they do. And they will. Look at that. The. See, is this the one that doesn't like you?

[Chelsea Handler]

Dog just came up to her. Look at that.

[Jessica]

That's Reaver.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Oh, sweet, but.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, that's sweet, though. That was nice timing.

[Jessica]

Well, you couldn't see the Min pin has been at my hand licking me this whole time since I've been out here. So.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Is that the one that was being cranky before?

[Chelsea Handler]

Nope.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Okay.

[Jessica]

So she came out and looked at me and ran back inside.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, I would use this as your door opening to heal the relationship with your mother. This is the first step in your healing process.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

And I think this stuff with your sister will work out. I see like a two month period and then like this real beautiful doorway for forgiveness. And I don't feel like it's necessarily going to get worked out completely in terms of, like, my version, your version, but just like. Okay, it's almost like we have to agree to disagree. But what we know is there is this underground river of love, and I love you even if we don't see eye to eye.

[Jessica]

I have actually texted her a couple of times and she did. My birthday was about a week ago, and she did text me on my birthday, which was big because it's been almost a year.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That's beautiful. Yeah.

[Jessica]

And then I was invited by her while I was waiting for you guys to a memorial thing for my mom on Facebook.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Oh, that's so beautiful. I feel like writing in and doing this letter opened the door for all of that. Right? It was your energy that opened that well.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I think because my call originally was supposed to be two days before after my mom, the first anniversary of my mom passing, and it didn't work out. And I think maybe, like you were saying, I just wasn't ready for that at that time, actually. And everything you said up top was just like, everything I wish I could have said. Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Well, she is saying it now. She just didn't have the ability to say it then.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Because she didn't see it then.

[Katherine]

Right, Right.

[Jessica]

No. Yeah, no, that's. Yeah.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

But she loves you so much.

[Jessica]

Oh, I know. That's. I guess, of course, part of what makes it so hard.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I had kind of forgiven her a lot of the stuff from when I was a kid before she passed, because especially after being a mom. I understand, like, you are just doing your best, and she didn't have the tools that. Yeah, I have now, so she didn't really know any different. Differently. But then just the last few years before she passed were so bad. So it's really comforting to know that I will get to a place where I can really forgive her soon.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, you will. You're gonna get there. You're on your way. We're all witnessing it.

[Katherine]

Yeah. Thank you for sharing this with.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

She also says write about it. That's gonna help. And then she also said she's gonna give you a win somehow. Like, I feel like a scratch off lottery ticket you're gonna win. And it might. Because it might only be $10, but, like, she's like, that's the best I can do right now. But just be ready for that, too. I feel like she's gonna try and pay you back energetically in the most beautiful ways. So just be open to Some magical, beautiful things happening to you and for you.

[Jessica]

Oh, I could sure use a win.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, you're gonna get a win. The tide is changing. You're gonna get a win.

[Jessica]

And it makes sense that she would.

[Chelsea Handler]

Want me to write about it.

[Jessica]

She journaled every single day.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

There you go.

[Jessica]

I can write.

[Chelsea Handler]

Love it.

[Jessica]

She wants me to journal.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Get ready. You know, I think sometimes when we write, too, we open the doorway to a conversation with the other side. And you might find as you write, you might feel her presence more strongly, and you might hear thoughts come to you that are really from her, like asking for more forgiveness or telling you how much she loves you. I think that she wants to be present for that healing journey and help you heal.

[Jessica]

Boy. Thank you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, thank you for. Thank you for calling in. We are so happy that you did.

[Jessica]

I am, too. This was more cathartic than I could have imagined.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I'm so glad sending you so much love.

[Katherine]

Follow up with us when you see your blue butterfly and your chicken.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yes.

[Chelsea Handler]

Seriously, follow up with us.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Win the $10 on the scratch off thing. Maybe it'll be more.

[Chelsea Handler]

Watch. It'll be 60 grand. Like, what?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

O.

[Jessica]

Come on, Mom.

[Katherine]

Right?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Awesome. Thanks, Jessica.

[Chelsea Handler]

Love it. Thanks, Jessica.

[Jessica]

Thank you. Thank you all.

[Chelsea Handler]

That was so moving. So moving.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

Do we have energy and time for one more?

[Jessica]

What?

[Chelsea Handler]

What do you. Okay. Should we take a break and come back and we'll do one more? Take a quick break.

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[Chelsea Handler]

And we're.

Back with Laura Lillian Jackson.

And we're going to do one more caller because we can't Let you leave.

Without spreading more of this.

[Jessica]

Exactly.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's so exciting.

[Katherine]

Yes. And actually this caller is two callers, so we should have Sarah and Pat on the.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, together.

[Katherine]

Yeah. So this is a little bit of couples counseling with Chelsea, but. So Sarah and Pat say, Dear Chelsea, my husband Pat is the youngest of four brothers, or so we thought up until about five years ago. After the birth of our second son, my husband's whole family came to visit. During that trip, my mother in law revealed that she had become pregnant at the the day of end age of 15. She was sent to a Catholic home for unwed mothers and her son was adopted after birth. She had apparently never planned on sharing this news until my husband bought an ancestry DNA test. Long story short, it was not an open adoption and she has not had much contact with her first child. My husband and his brothers all took this news in their own way. Some grieved, some were angry. But my husband Pat has been determined to find his now oldest brother, but he's not had much luck. The person we believe could be his brother does not seem to want to be contacted and has no interest in meeting Pat, his brothers or his mom. Pat can't seem to let this go and feels like he needs closure, which I do understand. What would you do? Family is very important to us both and we know it is to you as well. Chelsea, would you let this go and hope that one day his brother will change his mind? Or do we continue our search and try to get creative and exhaust all resources? I value your opinion and I'm hoping we can find peace, whatever the outcome may be. Sarah and Pat, we've got them here with us.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, guys.

[Katherine]

Hello.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi.

[Kayla]

Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

This is our special guest, Laurelyn Jackson.

[Katherine]

Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi there. So nice to meet you all.

Thank you for having us. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Okay. Laura, what do you think right off the bat about this?

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

So I just want to say I think always being guided by love is the highest path to take. And I think that is your impetus, that is your drive. That is what, what is making you want so badly to meet this brother? Is this love you already have in your heart having not even met him yet. That said, I do think that there are free will choices here on earth really are very powerful. And I think possibly the highest path to take would be to set the intention with the universe, with the powers that be, that your heart would love to connect with your brother and then surrender it. Because there's a magic that goes on behind the scenes in unseen energy streams, in ways that we can't fathom, but we need to trust in. I would say that it might be a process for the brother who maybe has orchestrated his life a certain way and guarded his heart a certain way. Way that he may know the door is there and not be ready to open it today. But if you just give some time and space, out of the blue, a year and two months from now, you might get a phone call, you might get an email, you might get a letter, and what a beautiful moment that would be. So I think, set your intention, leave that door open and know you're coming from the most pure place, but also understand that his free will might need a little time, time to make a decision, to be that vulnerable. Because that's really what I see this is about for him, is vulnerability, you know, and it's. I think what your knowledge, your heart is telling you is like, yes, there's a risk here, but it's gonna be so rewarding and so loving when we meet. And his energy is saying, I don't know that I'm ready to take that risk. I'm still guarded, or I'm not sure I want to meet this family that I'm not part of or haven't been part of yet. But I think it's so beautiful, the intention you're setting. And I think it's so beautif how as a couple, you are supporting each other in that. And there's so much love between you and so much kindness and genuine, like, rooting for the other person to be healed and be whole and, you know, experience love in all the dimensions.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

That was my sweet Chelsea. What do you think?

[Chelsea Handler]

I agree with everything that Laura Lynn Jackson said.

Ditto.

Ditto Dudo. Cause I think it's so important to put out that vibe, to put out.

The intention to always lead with love.

Every time you think about him, to let him know. Just think about communicating with someone telepathically. Choose to believe that that's true, and.

I love you, and I'm ready whenever you are.

And as long as that message is out there, I do think that you will hear from him at some point during your life.

[Katherine]

And you can also focus on the excitement and the happiness that you'll feel when and if he does reach out. Like, focusing on those emotions, I think can help bring them to fruition.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

This is.

[Katherine]

You know, our timelines are so different. Like, my. My dad was in sort of a similar situation as your brother. He found out that the person he thought was his dad was not his biological father. And he found this out when he was in his 20s. My parents were already married. And the moment my dad had the realization, he didn't even tell my mom for a full year because he just needed to digest it and sort of sit with it. And then it wasn't for several more years until he met his whole family and. And then he walks into this family reunion and he's like, oh, I thought it was just like a special individual snowflake, but like I look exactly like that person but with a different hair color. And I hold my coffee mug the same as this person. And so, you know, it. He might just be on a little bit of a different timeline than you, but if you focus on those, like, feelings of excitement and happiness, I think that's what he'll be feeling from you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I love that.

And that's definitely where we're coming from.

So we can keep putting it out there. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're welcome.

Thank you guys for calling in today.

[Katherine]

Yeah, this is really great.

[Chelsea Handler]

Of course. Thanks a lot.

[Jessica]

Appreciate it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, we'll keep you posted. Okay.

Yes, please do.

[Katherine]

All right, thanks, guys.

[Chelsea Handler]

We love follow ups. We love follow up episodes.

We love that. Wow.

Laura, as usual, just over delivered in every way. Your presence is so appreciated.

I love having you around me.

I love it when you're in my energy field and I love to be able to watch people's reactions to hearing you tell, you know, beautiful things about the things that they can't see that you are in tune with and attuned to. So thank you. The book is called Guided you guys. Please grab a copy for anyone you know that needs to read this. It's the Guided the Secret Path to an Illuminated Life. And it's my friend, Laura Lynn Jackson.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me here.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes, absolutely.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

I love being in the light of you both.

[Chelsea Handler]

Such a great episode. I loved it. So fun, so good.

[Laura Lynn Jackson]

It's just like set my whole month in balance. Like, I just feel like, oh.

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Katherine]

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