Minisode: Beat It! with Yamaneika Saunders

Summary

Dear Chelsea Minisode: "Beat It! with Yamaneika Saunders"
Release Date: July 25, 2025
Hosted by: Chelsea Handler and Catherine Law
Guest: Yamaneika Saunders

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Introduction

In this engaging minisode of Dear Chelsea, hosted by Chelsea Handler and co-host Catherine Law, alongside special guest Yamaneika Saunders, the trio delves into heartfelt listener issues with their characteristic blend of humor and honesty. This episode focuses on resolving familial tensions and navigating political divides within social circles.

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Caller Update: Savannah’s Family Tensions

[Timestamp: 02:33 - 05:04]

The episode opens with an update from a previous caller, Savannah, who reached out during the Kevin Hart episode. Savannah shares her ongoing struggle with her stepmother, who mistakenly rumors that Savannah is involved with OnlyFans—a fact untrue and distressing for Savannah.

Savannah’s Dilemma:

• Issue: Savannah's stepmother has been spreading false rumors about her involvement with OnlyFans, causing familial strain.
• Previous Advice: Chelsea and Catherine had advised Savannah to confront her stepmother directly.
• Current Situation: Savannah reports that despite her intentions, communication with her stepmother remains strained, leading to increased distance, especially with her stepsister’s upcoming wedding adding pressure.

Notable Quote:

Savannah: "I just haven't been feeling brave."
[04:00]

Yamaneika’s Intervention: Yamaneika, unfiltered and straightforward, responds to Savannah’s update with blunt advice to sever ties with the stepmother, emphasizing the toxicity of the situation.

Yamaneika’s Advice:

Yamaneika: "Beat it, lady."
[04:06]

Chelsea and Catherine’s Reaction: Catherine concurs with Yamaneika’s no-nonsense approach, highlighting that unfounded rumors warrant strong boundaries.

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Main Discussion: Ashley’s Book Club Crisis

[Timestamp: 05:13 - 25:25]

Introduction to the Issue: Ashley, a listener, writes in about turmoil within her six-woman book club located in Seattle. The group comprises diverse political backgrounds, including one MAGA supporter and several liberals and progressives. Political tensions have recently escalated, threatening the cohesion of the group.

Ashley’s Concerns:

• Diversity of Opinions: The book club includes members with varying political beliefs, leading to conflicts, especially after political events in 2025.
• Conflict Incident: During a February meeting, debates over the Trump administration caused emotional fallout, resulting in the MAGA member leaving and facing ostracization.
• Attempts at Resolution: Ashley proposed moving forward without excluding members based on political views, but faced backlash and was criticized for potentially fostering "high school bullying" dynamics.
• Current Dilemma: Ashley contemplates leaving the group altogether to avoid further segregation and aligns her frustrations with broader societal issues regarding cancel culture and division.

Notable Quotes:

Ashley: "I do not believe in cancel culture, nor do I believe in ghosting."
[06:56]

Katherine: "If you can't really have respect for somebody on the basis of something about their point of view, politically, I think it's gonna be hard for you to respect them in anything that they have to say about literature."
[07:57]

Yamaneika’s Perspective: Yamaneika offers a candid and passionate take on the situation, emphasizing the dangers posed by extremist political views and the necessity of setting personal boundaries.

Yamaneika’s Advice:

Yamaneika: "Stop aligning yourself with her. You keep having this pity for her for whatever reason."
[16:28]

Yamaneika: "It's a mental disorder if you really believe someone who has a different skin color is less valuable. That is a mental disorder."
[25:21]

Key Points Discussed:

1. Balancing Diversity and Harmony: Navigating differing political beliefs within social groups without compromising mutual respect.
2. Setting Boundaries: Understanding when to engage and when to distance oneself from toxic influences.
3. Personal Growth: Ashley shares her journey through therapy and her attempts to foster better communication and tougher conversations.
4. Impact of Political Polarization: The episode highlights how deep political divides can strain even close-knit communities, necessitating difficult decisions about relationships and group dynamics.

Notable Insight: Chelsea reflects on the severity of current political tensions, particularly focusing on the personal impacts felt by marginalized communities.

Chelsea Handler: "The MAGA thing really upsets me. I mean, they're still fucking far removed, you know, like the idea that somebody's too liberal and the idea that, like, being open-minded and aware of, like, the future is a bad thing."
[23:00]

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Conclusion

The minisode wraps up with the hosts reiterating the complexities of maintaining personal relationships amidst political disagreements. They emphasize the importance of setting boundaries to preserve one's mental well-being and the health of social groups.

Closing Thoughts:

• Yamaneika: Reiterates the necessity of distancing from harmful ideologies to protect personal safety and mental health.
• Katherine: Announces upcoming comedy dates, lightening the mood after a serious discussion.

Final Notable Quote:

Katherine: "It's too ugly out right now. It's too ugly."
[23:24]

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Key Takeaways

• Navigating Familial Conflicts: Addressing and setting boundaries with family members who spread false information can be crucial for personal well-being.
• Managing Political Divides in Social Groups: Balancing diverse political views requires mutual respect and sometimes difficult decisions to maintain group harmony.
• Personal Growth Through Adversity: Engaging in tough conversations and setting boundaries are essential steps toward personal growth and healthier relationships.
• The Role of Community and Support: Supportive networks and honest advice, even when blunt, can provide clarity and direction during challenging times.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Savannah: "I just haven't been feeling brave."
  [04:00]

• Yamaneika: "Beat it, lady."
  [04:06]

• Ashley: "I do not believe in cancel culture, nor do I believe in ghosting."
  [06:56]

• Katherine: "If you can't really have respect for somebody on the basis of something about their point of view, politically, I think it's gonna be hard for you to respect them in anything that they have to say about literature."
  [07:57]

• Yamaneika: "Stop aligning yourself with her. You keep having this pity for her for whatever reason."
  [16:28]

• Yamaneika: "It's a mental disorder if you really believe someone who has a different skin color is less valuable. That is a mental disorder."
  [25:21]

• Chelsea Handler: "The MAGA thing really upsets me. I mean, they're still fucking far removed, you know, like the idea that somebody's too liberal and the idea that, like, being open-minded and aware of, like, the future is a bad thing."
  [23:00]

• Katherine: "It's too ugly out right now. It's too ugly."
  [23:24]

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This minisode of Dear Chelsea sheds light on the intricate balance between maintaining personal relationships and standing firm on one’s values amidst political turmoil. With candid discussions and heartfelt advice, Chelsea, Catherine, and Yamaneika provide listeners with both humor and wisdom to tackle real-life challenges.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Katherine]

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[Yamanika]

Exposed to me is a great.

[Katherine]

Yeah, it's exposure is what I'm. How I would frame it. Thank you.

[Yamanika]

And the only reason why I'm here is for exposure.

[Katherine]

Katherine, what do we have on the docket for today?

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, we have an update from a previous caller. This is Savannah. She had called in on our Kevin Hart episode. She is not a person doing only fans, but her dad thought she was doing only fans because.

[Katherine]

Oh, and the stepmom was spreading rumors about her, Right?

[Chelsea Handler]

Exactly.

[Katherine]

Stepmom was telling. Going around the family, telling everybody that this girl was on OnlyFans.

[Yamanika]

Why?

[Katherine]

I don't know.

[Chelsea Handler]

She had made some offhanded comment about, like, I wonder how much they make or how do they do their taxes? And like, she started telling everybody she was doing OnlyFans.

[Yamanika]

Oh, wow.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

So the.

[Chelsea Handler]

The advice was to, like, hit it head on, have a conversation with her. And so she's like, kind of not talking to her stepmom because she's mad at her. So I asked for an update. She says, I have my tail between my legs because we've continued to just ignore each other. She lives three hours away and we don't have to talk much anymore. I'm getting nervous as her daughter. My stepsister is getting married this year, and I want to tackle it by then August. I just have fear over how she'll receive what I want to say. She will shut down and get defensive and say things like, well, I guess I'm just the worst person ever. I don't want to pull my dad into this anymore, and I think I just need to call her when I'm feeling brave. I guess I just haven't been feeling brave. And she hasn't tried anything either. The advice you and Chelsea gave was wonderful. And I've listened back to it to make sure it lives in my head when the time for the conversation comes. I just don't know when that would be signed. A nervous and disappointed non sex worker stepdaughter. Savannah.

[Yamanika]

No, baby, baby. And I know I wasn't here for the first one. Who gives a crap? What are you talking to your stepmother? Beat it. You told everybody in the family I was on OnlyFans, bitch. Beat it. I don't understand why she gotta have a conversation. And guess what? I'mma be at my stepsister's wedding. My dad gonna be there. I'm be there. Unless the stepsister tell you to be there and then you know where the stepsister lie. I don't understand this nonsense of I gotta tackle this conversation with a woman that you already know is gonna be defensive and is passive aggressive and playing the victim. Beat it, lady. Yeah, so that's me updating you, giving you updated advice.

[Katherine]

That's better advice than I gave the first time around, quite frankly. I mean, yeah, fuck her. I think the girl was upset because her mom, her dad actually was like believing the mother, but also exactly like off. If you're spreading rumors about me like that that aren't true, if there's no basis like a fact, then no, like off it's right.

[Yamanika]

Fuck her.

[Chelsea Handler]

So new advice, Savannah, Just her.

[Yamanika]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

So we do have a caller today. Ashley writes in her subject line is Politics are destroying my Book Club. Dear Chelsea, I'm part of a six woman book club that consists of the following demographic one maga, three liberal Dems, one moderate Dem. Think Bill Maher, Dem. This is me and one extremely woke progressive. We live in Seattle. However, all the Dems are transplants from California and the MAGA fan is a transplant from Idaho. I was homesick during our last gathering in early February when a notable fight erupted over the current Trump administration's work since taking office. It resulted in the MAGA individual leaving the gathering in tears and one remaining progressive and three liberals agreeing to kick her out of the book club. When we planned our next meetup, I inquired about talking to MAGA and moving the group forward without her. I received backlash from the progressives that she was not worthy of feedback given her values. I disagree with this. Kicking someone out of a club they've been in for six years with no feedback, then continuing to post about it on social media is a textbook book form of high school bullying. We're 37, grow the fuck up. And yes, we've already tried. Agree to disagree and don't talk politics in our book club. However, it's difficult to avoid these topics in 2025. I do not believe in cancel culture, nor do I believe in ghosting. And while I've spent my entire life residing in coastal elite quote unquote areas, I have a handful of family members who voted for Trump that I would never dream of cutting out of my life. I feel strongly that further segregation of our two communities is compounding the current issues we're facing in America. Finally, this has raised some questions for me about my liberal friends who are more than happy to continue life in their own political bubble and dump someone just because they don't share their beliefs. As it stands, I'M wondering if I should excuse myself from the group altogether. Ashley.

[Katherine]

Sounds like a Supreme Court situation here. I mean, liberals, progressive, this is a hard day. Moderate and then a maga. Okay, cop it. Hi. Hi. How are you?

[Ashley]

Hey, Chelsea. I'm well, how are you?

[Katherine]

So, I don't know. I mean, what do you think? I feel like there's.

[Yamanika]

Do you want me to go first? I think we're gonna.

[Katherine]

Okay, yeah, you go first.

[Yamanika]

Or do you want me to go first?

[Katherine]

You go.

[Yamanika]

I mean, I'm in a book club, so we try. You know, this book club is really centered. Any of the book clubs I've ever been in have been centered around people that are sort of like minded in ways. Right. There's something that's threading us together. And I feel like when we've had dissension in the club, it's probably somebody got, you know, people didn't like somebody or whatever it was. So I've seen people come and go in book clubs and you just go into another damn book club. I think it's unfortunate that it did get political. I think the issue probably right now is, I understand, like you have people in your family that you would never turn away from even though they voted for Donald Trump. And I think you have the capacity to do that right now. For me, if I'm honest in this time, being a woman and being a black woman, I think it's a matter of life or death for me when I start to see people that are saying certain things about certain values and people being less than human or having to go back to places that they never even would feel from, you know, it becomes life or death. So then I do look at people during this time very differently than maybe I did when we all, you know, I didn't agree that, you know, George Bush Jr. Was president. Like there was no way I would have ever gotten rid of somebody. Cause they voted for him. But we're talking for me right now, the president we have is very dangerous to people like me. And so it's like a matter of life or death. And I can see how people are getting crunchy in that time. And I think maybe if this is gonna cause you a tear, you may have to just go to another place, you know what I'm saying? Because when one of the things about the book clubs are like, we respect each other's opinions, you know, even about their interpretation of books, you know, interpretations of words and what the authors are saying or what the point of the story is. And if you can't really have respect for somebody on the basis of something about their point of view. Politically, I think it's gonna be hard for you to respect them in anything that they have to say about literature.

[Ashley]

I think that's a really interesting perspective. Just about the point of the book club, obviously, is to respect each other's opinions because you're going to have different opinions about how you interpret things that you read, et cetera. I think what was really interesting for me is this all came up. So your book, I think Chelsea came out in February. So I was traveling and reading your book around the time that this happened. And obviously I'm thinking of certain chapters in your book that come to mind because there's a theme of sisterhood, right. In your book about being able to have tough conversations. Respectfully, I'm thinking of the Jane Fonda chapter.

[Yamanika]

Right.

[Ashley]

Your friend who partied a little too hard, who ended up pursuing their sobriety. Right. How? And so to me, I think the bigger issue is, are we now at a place in life? Like if these are your my friends, are we now at a place in life where if we have a disagreement with someone, we don't give them the basic decency and respect of having a tough conversation and explaining why you want a relationship to end or why you don't agree about something? I think that's more what I'm struggling with.

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[Ashley]

In terms of the underlying values, does that make sense?

[Katherine]

Yeah, that does make sense. And it's like it seems like it's just really up to you. You know what I mean? It's really a personal decision. Like, do you want, I mean, you can always reach out to this woman and give it to her straight as a sister, you know, in the name of sisterhood, like, take it upon yourself to be like, listen, I mean, what is your understanding of the whole situation? What does she, what is your understanding of her understanding?

[Ashley]

Well, I think she lives in her own media bubble, right. So she consumes what she wants to consume. And so she ironically is the one. So book club existed before COVID Right. So started in 2018ish. Right. And obviously Trump was president then. And so we were, we had kind of agree to disagree and we don't talk politics at book club rule. And we, you know, we're not reading like seriously political books and book club. Right. These are like churchy, fun, uplifting, let's drink wine books. So we paused hiatus in 2020, got back together after, you know, peak Covid, and we just continued from there. I mean, Trump was out of office, so it didn't really come up. But since he has been back in office and obviously with the election last year, she's often the one who brings up politics, knowing that she's the only Trump supporter in the group. So that's where it's also been agitating. She comes from a place of I want to learn, I want to hear your opinion, I want to understand your viewpoints, which I think we all welcome having conversations, even if they might be uncomfortable and respectfully. But it comes from kind of the Fox News lens of any time we engage in the conversation. It's like, well, what about when Hillary did it? Right? She just follows that like media playbook. And so the conversations end up being not productive.

[Katherine]

Yeah, I think that's the bottom line. Is it? But productive, like, it's nice to be able to extend your tolerance to someone who has a different viewpoint if you can have productive convers. And I don't mean just by getting them to understand what you believe. I mean actually having productive, thought provoking conversations and being open to new ideas and new information on both sides. So I mean, if she is bringing up politics, it's kind of like that's the reason she's not in the group. You know what I mean? You're not there to talk about politics. You just said that. And you guys all understand that. And especially her being like the only MAGA person, of course she's gonna feel outnumbered and want to like, you know what A dog does to like, mark their territory, to almost just establish some sort of, like, you're not gonna roll me over or roll over, you know, like, she's probably trying to establish some sort of dominance or just a placeholder at the very minimum. But it's just. It's a matter of what does she think that happened? Does she know what it is that she got nixed from the group?

[Ashley]

Well, yeah. So, interestingly so, I was traveling and missed last book club, but I guess she announced to the group that she's just gonna move to Texas because living in Seattle is pointless and she can't date anyone here because none of they're too liberal and too woke.

[Katherine]

Oh, yeah.

[Ashley]

So it's just like, okay, that's the solution. Just move to a red state and.

[Katherine]

Well, but that's her, though. Like, you can't blame your other book club friends who are the liberals and progressives. You can't blame them for her. She's, from what you're telling me, she is an agitator. Not just. Cause she's a Republican or a MAGA or whatever. She keeps bringing it up like, that's not that she knows that's not the forum for that kind of conversation.

[Yamanika]

And I want you to see where you keep aligning yourself with her, which I think is the biggest problem. Stop aligning yourself with her. You keep having this pity for her for whatever reason. Right. And it's like she doesn't deserve any pity in where she comes into a situation and she's trying to antagonize it and agitate it. And most certainly, if there is a constant conversation about what she feels, you know, with this current presidency and all of this stuff and nobody's bringing that up, maybe she should go somewhere where people are willing to engage her in that conversation.

[Katherine]

Yeah. I think what you're saying is, like, you have a set of principles and that's great. You can still engage with people who are Trump supporters and you can still talk to your family members. But this instance, like, this instance, this woman has kind of caused her removal from the book club, it sounds like.

[Ashley]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

So while you have your principles, you can still hold onto those and remain in your book club. She just kind of worked outside the lines. Like that doesn't change that you're open to talk who have different political beliefs.

[Yamanika]

And it sounds like she's still in the club, isn't she? Cause how is she making all these announcements? Is she out the club?

[Ashley]

Yeah, she's engaged with us still. I mean, I.

[Yamanika]

Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Yamanika]

Y' all got to really show her the.

[Katherine]

She just sounds like a pain in the ass regardless of her political alignment. You know what I mean?

[Yamanika]

Yeah. And you seem fun and cool and upbeat, and I know you seem like you got sympathy for this lady, but shake her off.

[Katherine]

Yeah. And focus on other Trump, like, supporters that are more, you know, that you can have conversations with that don't surround politics. You know, I totally am with you that it would be nice to be having in conversation with people who are different from different political beliefs. But unfortunately, I feel like Yamanika feels like. I feel like it is a deal breaker.

[Ashley]

Chelsea, so you mentioned recently on your social media that you have some family, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, but who don't share your political beliefs as well, and maybe supporters of Trump, if I recall.

[Katherine]

They're not Trump supporters, but they are conservative. I don't know that they voted for Trump. Nobody has admitted to voting for Trump. Nobody would admit that to me and my family. But there are supporters of more conservative politics and arguments about affirmative action, arguments about Russia, Ukraine, who's really at fault there. Things that I find intolerable and propaganda. And so I draw the line at, like, if you're spewing conspiracy theories, I'm not interested in being around that. And that's, for me, a personal thing that I've just. I don't want that. I don't want that toxicity around me. I want to talk about things that are actually happening. So I have a different set of values. But I like your principle. I think I'm. I totally support that for you, but I think this woman is just kind of outside of that. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Ashley]

Fair. Yeah. And I think this is validating. I think the reason I loved your most recent book as well, Chelsea, is because I kind of followed. Have followed the same trajectory in my life where 10 years ago I would have told someone to fuck off and never spoken to the. To them again if they even irritated me a little bit. Right. And I have spent some years in therapy after COVID lockdowns and whatnot, and I'm now working to be a better person in terms of tough conversations and whatnot and almost feel sometimes I err a little bit too far on the other side. Right. I've gone from one pendulum to the other of giving people passes on things or feeling like, well, how am I playing a part in this if someone is being an antagonist? So. So it's nice to Hear this perspective and get a little clarity on this. So thank you. Yeah.

[Katherine]

And if you wanted, like, if you want to show in a strength of sisterhood or a demonstration of sisterhood, like, if you want to shoot her an email and go, listen, I'm sorry that this didn't work out with the book club, but I just want you to know, like, you kept bringing up politics in a place that is not supposed to be. It's supposed to be politically free. Like, if you want to extend that to her, you can. But I wouldn't feel terrible about her not being in the book club anymore. Like, I would let that go. It's not our job to, like, you know, it's not everything. It's like. I think the great thing about getting older is understanding when and where to have those lines. You know what I mean?

[Ashley]

Yeah.

[Yamanika]

And she might have tapped out on her reading source. I mean, if she voting for Trump, how many books can she really hustle down?

[Katherine]

Trump supporters read too?

[Yamanika]

Okay, well, yeah, see, Spot run. That's four words.

[Katherine]

But they won't be reading for long though. Cause there'll be no books left to read. So there's that. There's that reassurance to the other girls. You can tell the progressives that. But anyway, yeah, I appreciate your call and I appreciate what you're saying, and I understand, but I. I think you should let this one go and like, focus on that principle that you have in a. In a more constructive in. In other areas of your life where it will be met with the same thing.

[Ashley]

Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Thank you. Chelsea. Katherine, good to see you again in your book. In our book club.

[Katherine]

Oh, great, Great. Well, she should fucking read that.

[Yamanika]

You know, bring her back for that.

[Katherine]

Yeah, it's her. Dana. Mom. Her last book.

[Ashley]

We'll zoom in from Texas when we do.

[Katherine]

Take care.

[Ashley]

Bye.

[Katherine]

Thanks, Ashley.

[Yamanika]

Bye.

[Katherine]

Bye.

[Chelsea Handler]

One of the funniest things about the MAGA contingent for me is like. Like this woman, they won. And they're still fucking crying about it. Like, they're still feeling like a victim. I don't get it.

[Yamanika]

I mean, the fact that anybody. It's. For me, it's been almost. Mum's the word. But maybe like Chelsea said, ain't nobody gonna say nothing to me about voting for Trump. But I like, people are scared to say anything. I haven't heard anybody speak in Spanish in at least, what, since January? People scared to speak in Spanish. I'm telling you, they don't know what's gonna fucking happen. They sending people to El Salvador, that's from Maryland and shit, I'm from Maryland. Next thing you know, I'll be in El Salvador. I mean, it's a rough time, you know what I mean? And so she's fortunate. This woman is fortunate that she has the luxury to concern herself with the feelings of a Trump supporter. I don't have that. And this time, what it means to be MAGA is it means to be supporting white suprem, you know, stopping a lot of stuff. It's very bad times for people, especially people of color. And I can't be playing around with anybody that's over there supporting that, because that means you have no regard for my life or whatever I got going on. You wanna do nothing but take from me. I can't be around that. You're dangerous to me. You're a predator.

[Katherine]

Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I'm kind of like, I don't have time for it. I'm not talking. I just don't have time for that. It's too ugly out right now. It's too ugly. And people are being like, what's happening is unforgivable. It's disgusting. So, no, I'm not interested in hearing especially maga, you know, like that. That's like another level of fuck off.

[Yamanika]

You're right, though. Anyway, I'm thinking of this shit.

[Katherine]

Let's wrap it up. That was a long minisode.

[Chelsea Handler]

It sure was.

[Katherine]

I feel like it's longer than a shower.

[Yamanika]

Okay, don't say that. That means you didn't enjoy me.

[Katherine]

I always enjoy you. Of course I do. I just. I hate thinking about all of this stuff all the time.

[Yamanika]

I know you do. Why do you do it so well, though? You give good advice.

[Katherine]

I just know. I just. The MAGA thing really upsets me. Like, it fucking brings me down like that people are so fucking far removed, you know, like the idea that somebody's too liberal and the idea that, like, being open minded and aware of, like, the future is a bad thing. Saying yes to trans people is a bad thing. Like history has shown us over and over again. Especially, like there's this contingency of gay people, people who are not pro trans. And it's like, I find that you.

[Yamanika]

Got gay people who are racist. Listen, what I keep telling you is this, Chelsea, it's like this, right? This is a prime example. It's not you. You want to do certain things. You want the doubt to move. But I keep telling you, we gotta have these conversations because there's a lot of dumb motherfuckers out here that don't get it. And more importantly, the worst part is some of them get that what they're doing is racist or homophobic or all of this shit, and they just don't care because it's not. Do you understand? People are very selfish and that's why the conversations have to keep being had. And yeah, it wears you out. I get it. You get tired. I'm your. Hey, I'm doing my part. I'm not over here being a racist asshole. But imagine now you gotta live as a person that has to navigate around people with mental disorders of race being racist. That's uncomfortable as a motherfucker.

[Katherine]

That is a mental disorder. That's a great, great way to frame it. Racism is a mental disorder if you really believe.

[Yamanika]

Wait, stop laughing.

[Ashley]

True.

[Katherine]

It's mental disorder if you really believe someone who has a different skin color is less valuable. That is a mental disorder.

[Yamanika]

It's a mental disorder. And we gotta.

[Katherine]

We gotta go. She's starting to yell.

[Yamanika]

Goodbye.

[Katherine]

Bye. Bye. Bye. So I added a couple of new dates. I'm not on tour yet, but I added a couple of dates just because I felt like we need a little bit more laughter and a little bit more medicine for the end of the year. And I was wrapping things up, but I thought maybe let me do a couple more. So I'm adding three more dates. In addition to my Vegas residency, I'm doing West Hampton Beach August 21st, I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe Comedy Festival September 13th, and I will be in Napa on October 3rd. So those will be my last dates of the year.

[Chelsea Handler]

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