Minisode: Ditching a Date with Chelsea + Catherine

Summary

Dear Chelsea – Minisode: Ditching a Date with Chelsea + Catherine

Podcast: Dear Chelsea
Air Date: May 8, 2026
Hosts: Chelsea Handler & Catherine Law
Guest: Lunel (short segment)

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Episode Overview

In this punchy minisode, Chelsea Handler and her co-host Catherine Law answer listener questions about fitness plateaus, dating mishaps, and shifting friendships. With their trademark wit and warmth, Chelsea and Catherine balance practical life advice with laughs, personal touches, and a bit of cannabis-fueled camaraderie. The episode also features a short, lively segment with comedian Lunel.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Gratitude Mindset Works Wonders (04:32-06:13)

• Listener Update: Charlotte, a past caller, checks in with fantastic news: after Chelsea’s advice, both she and her wife landed great new jobs, and things are much better at home. She credits keeping a gratitude journal for helping her mindset.
• Chelsea’s Perspective: Chelsea reaffirms the power of daily gratitude:

  “It's true. It's like you can't really put your finger on what's different, but it does make you... Right.” —Chelsea Handler (05:46)

• Further Insight: She shares a tip about intentionally choosing the opposite feeling when gripped by negativity to break out of negative loops.

2. Mini Session with Lunel: Sobriety, Smokes & Stories (06:13-08:16)

• Cannabis & Cocktails: Chelsea, Katherine, and Lunel discuss how more people are sober lately, with Lunel joking,

  “Boring.” —Lunel (06:45)

• Drinks & Drugs: Conversation drifts to favorite drinks and infamous experiences with gin.
• Weed Legends: Lunel reveals Snoop Dogg said Willie Nelson is the only person to outsmoke him; Chelsea recalls getting so high with Willie Nelson she was still high the next morning:

  “I smoked weed with Willie Nelson. Yeah, in his trailer... I was high the next day when I got up fucking with Willie Nelson.” —Chelsea Handler (07:59)

• Tour Plug: Lunel mentions her stand-up date at Netflix Is A Joke Fest.

3. Fitness for Working Moms: Maximizing 30-Minute Workouts (14:06-15:44)

• Question from Caitlin: As a working mom who's hit a fitness plateau with 30-minute morning workouts, Caitlin asks for tips on maximizing results.
• Chelsea’s Advice:

  “If I had 30 minutes every day, I would weight train.” (14:52)
  Sprints on the treadmill a few days a week are also recommended for fat burning; Chelsea herself rarely does cardio anymore.

• Katherine Agrees:

  “Cardio is like dating. Cardio — it’s out.” —Katherine (15:10)
  She adds that the fitness industry has moved past the 'endless cardio' phase, especially for women.

• General Consensus: Walking and chasing kids count as built-in cardio; it’s okay to take rest and recovery days.

4. Ditching a Late Date – Yes or No? (19:17-20:03)

• Kendra’s Dilemma: She ditched a date after he was 20 minutes late with no text. He later apologized, blaming a dead phone. Should she give him another chance?
• Chelsea’s Response:

  “Yeah, I would give him another chai. Maybe his phone did die.” (19:38)
  She confesses her own phone dies occasionally, suggesting Kendra shouldn’t write him off for one mishap.

5. Losing a Friend to Their Relationship (20:03-21:46)

• Lucy’s Problem: Her best friend drops her for a new boyfriend, morphs into his personality, and the friendship fades. Lucy feels she doesn’t miss the new version of her friend but mourns the old bond.
• Chelsea’s Take:

  “I don't know that you can [get her to see it]... I think people have to outgrow that stuff.” (20:58)
  Explains that telling someone you dislike their boyfriend rarely helps; people often need to figure things out for themselves.

• Katherine’s Suggestion: Try inviting the friend to coffee and sharing, in a kind way,

  “I feel like I’m missing you just as you are without this guy.” (21:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mindset Transformation:

  “There really is something powerful about reminding yourself every day what you’re grateful for… that seems to shift your mindset in a really positive way.” —Charlotte (Listener Email via Katherine, 05:12)

• On Relationship Changes:

  “Telling someone you don’t like their boyfriend is unhelpful information most often.” —Chelsea Handler (21:14)

• On Outgrowing Patterns:

  “I think people have to outgrow that stuff.” —Chelsea Handler (20:58)

• On Fitness Trends:

  “Cardio is like dating. Cardio — it’s out.” —Katherine (15:10)

• On Keeping It Real About Mistakes:

  “My phone dies... not a lot, but it’s happened when I’m supposed to.” —Chelsea Handler (19:47)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Listener Gratitude Update: 04:32–06:13
• Lunel’s Guest Segment (Sobriety & Pot): 06:13–08:16
• Fitness/Workout Advice: 14:06–15:44
• Ditching a Date Question: 19:17–20:03
• Losing a Friend to a Relationship: 20:03–21:46

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Summary Tone

Throughout, Chelsea and Catherine mix compassion and directness with playful banter and personal anecdotes. The advice is pragmatic, non-judgmental, and laced with humor—classic Dear Chelsea.

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For Listeners

If you’re wrestling with friendship woes, confused by dating mishaps, or stuck in a workout rut, Chelsea and Catherine deliver honest, relatable guidance—and a few laughs along the way.

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To submit your own questions, email [e-mail]. Follow Chelsea on social media @chelseahandler and catch her live via chelseahandler.com.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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May 16th Monterey. May 17th, Modesto. I will be in Port Chester on June 4th.

[Chelsea Handler]

And we added two new dates to the High and Mighty Tour. On June 3rd I am coming to Saratoga Springs, New York. So pre sale has begun for that. And then on June 28th I am coming to Nantucket.

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And presale has started on that.

[Chelsea Handler]

June 5 I will be in Boston, Massachusetts. June 12 I will be in Portland, Oregon. And June 13 I will be in Seattle, Washington. June 27 is going to be Hyannis, Massachusetts. August 6 is Red Bank, New Jersey. August 7, I'm coming home to Montclair, New Jersey. August 15 is Calgary, Alberta, Canada. September 18, Santa Barbara.

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September 19, San Diego.

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September 25 I will be at the

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September 26, I will be in Philadelphia.

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September 27, New Haven, Connecticut. October 2, Atlanta, Georgia. October 3, Baltimore, Maryland.

[Chelsea Handler]

October 4, Saginaw, Michigan. October 9 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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October 10, Toronto, Canada.

[Chelsea Handler]

October 16 I'm coming to Boise, Idaho. October 17 Spokane, Washington. November 7 I will be in San Francisco. And November 13, Salt Lake City. November 20, Austin. November 21, Houston, Texas. November 22, Irving, Texas. December 5, I am adding a second show in Denver for those of you

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who couldn't get tickets to the first one.

[Chelsea Handler]

And on December 6th I will be coming to Vancouver, Canada. Okay, those are all my dates for

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the High and Mighty door.

[Chelsea Handler]

Go to Chelsea handler.com for tickets. Hi, how are you? Katherine?

[Katherine]

Hi, Chelsea. Hi. I'm great. I actually just got back from a nice little trip to Mexico with two of my girlfriends that I go on every year.

[Chelsea Handler]

So that's nice. Yes.

[Katherine]

Very, very toasty and warm down there.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's nice to feel rested after a vacation.

[Lunel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Katherine]

And it's nice to have like something to look forward to every year where it's like, this is where we go. Well, I have a follow up. This is Charlotte who called in on our Judy Greer episode a while back. So she was frustrated because her wife was the breadwinner. But it had like a job change and had gotten fired from her job a couple of times. They have a little kid and you had recommendations like, do a gratitude journal and like change your attitude, start looking positively. And she was like in a tough spot with her marriage. So she says, hi, Chelsea. I wanted to send a quick follow up. Not long after our call, something pretty amazing happened. About three weeks after we talked, my wife got an awesome new job. And then a week after that, I was promoted at my job.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, my gosh.

[Katherine]

I know. Now I'm actually up for another promotion. And I have my first appointment with a fertility doctor this week to get busy having a second kid. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but there really is something powerful about reminding yourself every day what you're grateful for, taking a moment to focus on that seems to shift your mindset in a really positive way. And that's been pretty incredible to see how things have started falling into place since then. Thank you so much. You're really helping people in a time like now. We all really need it. Thank you so much, Chelsea. And see you in Port Chester, Charlotte.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, cute. I love that. Yeah, that's nice.

[Katherine]

Yeah. So glad to hear things are going well.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. And also to frame it in that way that it shifts your mind like that. It's true. It's like you can't really put your finger on what's different, but it does make you Right. I like the other thing that I heard recently, which is not to. When you. When you have a feeling to have the opposite. You know, like, there's an opposite feeling to every feeling. Choose that one when you have a bad feeling.

[Katherine]

Right? Yeah. Yeah. And focus on the positive.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's a very serious minisode today.

[Katherine]

It's very serious. We just recorded with Luna, which was

[Chelsea Handler]

not serious at all.

[Katherine]

It was not serious at all. And, like, I have a contact high, so I know you're doing amazing earlier that day.

[Chelsea Handler]

Should we smoke this joint?

[Lunel]

Yeah, why not? You don't mind my lipstick, do you?

[Chelsea Handler]

I'll give you your own.

[Lunel]

You already started without me.

[Chelsea Handler]

No, I had. And this is from yesterday. I was. I'm so glad that you're the guest today, because I was like, I want to. I haven't sat and smoked a joint in my new podcast room for a podcast guest in a while. Most people are sober these days. Have you noticed this?

[Lunel]

Boring.

[Chelsea Handler]

Why? Why? Why do you think that is? That's such a thing.

[Lunel]

They went too hard, they did the wrong shit, and they got burnt out real easy, real quick.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. But I know people that have gone too hard and then they're able to reel it back in.

[Lunel]

Everybody can't really back in.

[Chelsea Handler]

You have a good cocktail, too. I like this.

[Katherine]

I'm having a cocktail. I'm having a little old Tom gin, which is my new favorite thing.

[Lunel]

That's going too far right there. That's the one right there.

[Katherine]

I have to be able to read later, so I can't.

[Lunel]

I can't fuck with that gin, girl. You need to see my acting.

[Katherine]

Well, that's what we were talking about before. I feel like a lot of people went too hard with gin in college or whatever and they just like, they got sick on it once and they can't stand it.

[Lunel]

No, I got sick on it multiple times.

[Chelsea Handler]

Do you like that, Chelsea? And the vodka lemonade that you're drinking

[Lunel]

could be stronger, but yeah, it's okay.

[Chelsea Handler]

It could be stronger.

[Lunel]

It's a day drink, but I like that. Oh, is that what it is?

[Chelsea Handler]

It's kind of like a light drink so that you can have a couple.

[Lunel]

Have you tried the Willie Nelson?

[Katherine]

No, I haven't.

[Lunel]

I want to. Don't you?

[Chelsea Handler]

Is it a drink?

[Lunel]

Yeah, it's like this, but I think it's got weed in it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, probably. No, I haven't tried it yet. But I love anything that he does. His weed is strong.

[Lunel]

I heard Snoop said that's the only person who out smoked him was Willie Nelson.

[Chelsea Handler]

I smoked weed with Willie Nelson. Yeah, in his trailer and on it.

[Lunel]

Best way to do it.

[Chelsea Handler]

And I was high the next day when I got up fucking with Willie Nelson. Yeah, there was two times where I've gotten so high that the next morning I was still high. When are you performing at Netflix as a joke, Lunel?

[Lunel]

May 9, the 9th at the Ice House. And then I think I'm doing something with Shaq and Burt Kreutcher.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay. So you can get [e-mail] make sure to check out Lunel's full episode on

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[Katherine]

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[Katherine]

All right, so here's our featured question. It's our one drink question and she says, Dear Chelsea, I've been a weekly listener of your podcast for the last few years. I love your humor and your commitment to destigmatizing Mental health and therapy. Since you're a total badass in the gym, I have a health and fitness question for you. I'm a working mom in my late 30s. I love to work out, but my time is limited during the week and I can only squeeze in 20 to 30 minutes in the morning. I'm consistent working out every day, but I've hit a plateau. How can I maximize my Monday through Friday 30 minute workouts to still build my strength and see change? What's the ideal balance of strength versus cardio versus recovery? I feel like since I don't work out very long each day, I'm hesitant to take rest and recovery days. I have free weights, a stationary bike and a treadmill. Cheers, Caitlin.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, Caitlin. I love these kinds of questions. It's so ridiculous. Um, but I will say that I would just weight train. If I had 30 minutes every day, I would weight train. Or you can sprint every one a few days on the treadmill because that's really good for like fat burning and like, also like it's good to have some cardio, but I don't do cardio on the regular.

[Katherine]

Cardio is like dating cardio. It's out.

[Chelsea Handler]

No. Yeah, it's out of style. And I do do it just sometimes, like if I want, you know, need to sweat, like, I'll do it. But I don't do a lot of cardio anymore. I used to be obsessed with it and I used to be much less lean.

[Katherine]

Well, that's the thing is like in the 90s and 2000s they were like, oh yeah, cardio, cardio, cardio. And then we realized like, oh, it's actually not doing much for. Especially for women.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I wasted so many hours of my life running after not.

[Katherine]

Yeah, your cardio is going to come from like chasing your kids, going on walks with them, running around at the park.

[Chelsea Handler]

Like, walking is really good for you, but that's just doing naturally.

[Katherine]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chelsea Handler]

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of things that most people don't.

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[Katherine]

Well, we have a couple more really quick questions, Chelsea. The first one is from Kendra. She says, dear Chelsea, I was supposed to meet a date at a bar, but left after. He was 20 minutes late. No text, no show. An hour later, he said his phone had died and apologized profusely. Should I give him another chance? It was a third date, Kendra.

[Chelsea Handler]

Third date. First time that happened. Yeah, I would give him another chai. Maybe his phone did die.

[Katherine]

I know, but I'm a little bit like, did he.

[Chelsea Handler]

My phone dies.

[Katherine]

Yeah. Okay. All right. So speaking from personal experience, you need another chance.

[Chelsea Handler]

I mean, not a lot, but it's happened when I'm supposed to. Yeah.

[Katherine]

And I feel like if he's out already, he doesn't get a chance to charge his phones. That's why. Maybe it was.

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[Chelsea Handler]

You can't just break up with him for that.

[Katherine]

Okay. All right, Kendrick, give him another chance. So our last question today comes from Lucy. She says, I'm writing in because I recently lost my best friend to a dude. She's always been someone who gets her sense of worth from male attention. She'll date a guy and morph into them, adopt their interests, humor and lifestyle. And, yeah, we all sink into our partners to a point. But her current boyfriend has become her whole world, while I've completely dropped out of it. We used to talk every day, share everything, but now I barely hear from her. If I'm being honest, I don't even miss her. Mainly because the her she has become isn't the one I knew. But I can't throw it all away. She is my person. It's not her fault that she fawns to men. But how do I get her to see it? Side note, the dude and I are perfectly friendly, but, Jesus, please don't leave us alone together. Zero vibe. It's like we both forget that we

[Chelsea Handler]

know how to speak.

[Katherine]

Lucy.

[Chelsea Handler]

Brutal.

[Katherine]

Yeah. So how do we get her, like, vibing with her friend again?

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't know that you can. Well, no, not while the guy's in the picture. And if she's acting like that with guys, I don't know, I think people have to outgrow that stuff. I don't know how you, you remind. Telling someone you don't like their boyfriend is unhelpful information most often.

[Katherine]

Yeah, well, and I wonder, like, is there a way to say, like, I feel like I'm missing you just as you are without this guy?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, that's a nice way to just. I mean, I don't know how you could say that wrong.

[Katherine]

Yeah, right. Like, I think that's a text of,

[Chelsea Handler]

like, it's a nice way to say it.

[Katherine]

Yeah. Like, I'd love to go to coffee. Like, let's get some coffee. I want to spend some time just with you. And then when you're at coffee or dinner or whatever, you can address and just be like, hey, like, I really want some more. Like, I miss you. Like, alone time with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, I support that.

[Katherine]

All right, Lucy, problem solved and we're done for today.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, wonderful. Okay, goodbye.

[Katherine]

Okay, bye.

[Chelsea Handler]

Goodbye. I'm going upstairs.

[Katherine]

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