Minisode: Refresh My Memory with Chelsea + Catherine

Summary

Dear Chelsea Minisode: Refresh My Memory with Chelsea + Catherine Release Date: August 8, 2025

In this engaging minisode of "Dear Chelsea", hosted by Chelsea Handler and co-hosted by Catherine Law, the duo delves into their recent literary adventures and provides a humorous follow-up to a previous listener question. This episode seamlessly blends deep literary discussions with Chelsea and Catherine's signature wit, making it a must-listen for both avid readers and fans of candid conversations.

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Book Discussions: Exploring Diverse Narratives

Percival Everett's "James" The episode kicks off with Catherine sharing her thoughts on Percival Everett's "James". She passionately describes the novel, emphasizing its profound impact:

"It's an amazing book. You have to read it. It really shook me up for a few days. I think I absorb sometimes I absorb things so much, like I can't stop thinking about them, you know?" [02:27]

Catherine highlights how Everett reimagines the classic Huck Finn story from the slave's perspective, offering a poignant and heart-wrenching saga set against the backdrop of the Mississippi River just before the war.

Exploring Other Literary Gems The conversation flows into a discussion about other recent reads:

• "Life is Just a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches" by the hosts of I've Had It Podcast: Catherine praises this humorous take on life's challenges.

• Elizabeth Gilbert's "All the Way to the River": Described as a beautiful homage to love and loss, Catherine finds it deeply relatable and moving.

• Tananarive Due's "The Reformatory": Danielle lauds this horror novel set in the Jim Crow South, blending spiritual and ghostly elements to create a haunting narrative.

• "Lonesome Dove": Danielle recalls reading this classic with her father, appreciating its rich character development and humor.

• Jessica Knoll's "Bright Young Women": Both hosts commend this gripping story about the victims of a notorious serial killer, noting its emotional depth.

• "Beautiful World, Where Are You" by Sally Rooney: A favorite for its intricate portrayal of relationships and personal growth.

• "Hyper Focus" by Chris Bailey: Discussed as a functional self-help book aimed at enhancing productivity, though Catherine admits she often forgets details from such reads.

• Sarah Thornton's "Tits Up": Danielle recommends this non-fiction exploration of societal perceptions of breasts, lauding its insightful and personal narrative.

Catherine sums up her reading experience with a mix of admiration and honesty:

"It is amazing, and it is also very true. It just happens. I'll tell you what, I am sad that I spent 900 pages reading." [06:37]

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Follow-Up: Tackling the "Penis Toucher" Episode

Building on a previous episode titled "Penis Toucher", Chelsea and Catherine address a listener's concern about a friend, Phil, who frequently touches himself inappropriately.

Listener Recommendations and Underwear Solutions Danielle shares the plethora of advice received from listeners, which primarily revolves around upgrading Phil's underwear to manage his behavior better. They discuss various brands, ultimately honing in on Andrew Christian's "Trophy Boy" collection as the optimal solution.

"He says one of the collections is called Trophy Boy. So that is what we'll buy for Max Eisenbud." [13:57]

Catherine humorously narrates an anecdote about a friend, Max Eisenbud, who struggles with managing his size, reinforcing the need for specialized underwear:

"You can't just let them go. Yeah. I mean, what is the point of boxer shorts? I don't understand. They're not doing anything." [15:26]

Their banter underscores the importance of practical solutions delivered with their trademark humor, making light of an otherwise sensitive topic.

Community Engagement and Support Danielle shares a heartwarming response from another listener, Janet, highlighting the positive impact of their advice:

"FYI, whenever Bill adjusts himself and doesn't realize it, my code word for him now is Chelsea." [16:20]

This exchange emphasizes the supportive community fostered by the podcast, where listeners feel empowered to seek and share advice openly.

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Upcoming Events and Personal Announcements

Towards the episode's conclusion, Chelsea shares exciting news about her performance schedule, encouraging fans to join her for upcoming shows:

"I'm adding three more dates. In addition to my Vegas residency, I'm doing West Hampton Beach August 21st. I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe Comedy Festival September 13th, and I will be in Napa on October 3rd. So those will be my last dates of the year." [16:04]

Her enthusiasm for spreading laughter and providing "a little bit more laughter and a little bit more medicine for the end of the year" resonates with listeners eagerly anticipating her live performances.

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Conclusion

This minisode of "Dear Chelsea" offers a delightful mix of intellectual discussion and comedic relief. Chelsea and Catherine's exploration of diverse literary works provides listeners with thoughtful insights, while their playful take on sensitive topics underscores the show's unique blend of humor and honesty. Whether you're seeking book recommendations or simply enjoy the dynamic between Chelsea and Catherine, this episode delivers content that's both meaningful and entertaining.

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Notable Quotes:

• "It's an amazing book. You have to read it. It really shook me up for a few days." – Catherine on Percival Everett's "James" [02:27]

• "What is the point of boxer shorts? I don't understand. They're not doing anything." – Catherine on underwear solutions [15:26]

• "I'm adding three more dates... So those will be my last dates of the year." – Chelsea on upcoming performances [16:04]

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For more insights, advice, and upcoming episodes, tune into "Dear Chelsea" on iHeartPodcasts.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Kathryn]

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[Kathryn]

Hi Kathryn.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hi Chelsea. How are you?

[Kathryn]

Hi. I'm good. I'm good. I just read that book James by Percival Prescott. Percival. Percival Prescott?

[Danielle Fishel]

Is that his name? Yes, that has been E.P.

[Kathryn]

Everett. Percival. Everett.

[Danielle Fishel]

Percival Everett seems right yeah, James.

[Kathryn]

It was very. Should be required reading. It's an amazing book. You have to read it. It really shook me up for a few days. I think I absorb sometimes I absorb things so much, like I can't stop thinking about them, you know?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. It is Percival Everett. I just double checked. And it's like a retelling of the Huck Finn story, right?

[Kathryn]

From his perspective, from the slave's perspective. So they have like a guy. Yeah. So it's great. It takes you through, like right before the war broke out on the Mississippi river. And then kind of he's trying to escape for his family and he's trying to get back. It's just. It's a saga. It's a whole saga with Huck Finn involved in it. And it's a nice retelling. It's beautiful, but heartbreaking.

[Danielle Fishel]

And you do love a retelling of a classic too. Like, I know you love Circe and those other ones.

[Kathryn]

Yeah, yeah. And then I read those women that have that podcast. I've had it. Those two funny women. I think they have a great podcast called I've Had It Podcast, which is. There's these two women from Oklahoma and they have a new book called Life is Just a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. That's a pretty funny book that I also just read. I'm reading Elizabeth Gilbert's book All the Way to the river and I'm almost done with that. That is a beautiful book. Yes. I started reading Demon Copperhead, but I haven't finished that. I stopped.

[Danielle Fishel]

I heard that's kind of a hard read.

[Kathryn]

It is. I brought that to Whistler and I left it there. Cause I was halfway through and I'm like, okay, I don't wanna not read this book, but I'm not finishing this right now. And I had other books to read for our podcast, so. But everyone talks about that book and it's been on the list for years and years and years. And then. What about you?

[Danielle Fishel]

I started out this year reading a bunch of books that I did not like. I didn't like, like the first five books I read this year. And I realized it was. Cause they were all from Booktok and all recommendations from Booktok. So I stopped doing that.

[Kathryn]

But what's wrong with Booktok?

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, I think it's just like people read a book and they feel like they need to recommend it because it's a thing that they read. But I will some. Some books that I have really, really loved this year. One is called the Reformatory and This is absolutely a horror novel, but it's written by Tananarive Due and it's all about like Jim Crow south and a boy's reformatory, which of course like all kinds of terrible things happen. But she is a student of horror and weaves in all these different elements. Like there are, there's like a spiritual aspect and a ghost aspect and like you know, really scary adults aspect. I mean it is one of the most beautiful books I've ever read. Probably not a great beach read, although that's where I read it. But I loved it and it was also one I couldn't stop thinking about. And then I just finished reading Lonesome Dove. Do you remember that one from the 80s?

[Kathryn]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I read it with my dad because he's like a big cowboy guy and I kept seeing it on all these book talk lists and that was one that I can say is totally worth a read. Is a. It's pretty long, but you just, you are there with the characters. It's beautifully written. It's so funny throughout and just like very. I mean you just feel like you're there, so.

[Kathryn]

I also read Bright Young Women.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh my God.

[Kathryn]

That's what I read by Jessica Knoll.

[Danielle Fishel]

I read that last year and it's one of the best books I've ever read. I loved it.

[Kathryn]

Remind me what that's about and refresh my memory. Cause I'm looking at all my pictures and I was like, okay, yes, this is. I read this in Whistler and I remind me. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cause I was like, you have to read this one. I saw it around your house. It is about.

[Kathryn]

Oh yeah, you're the one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Victims of the serial killer of a certain serial killer who you do know, but they don't ever name him in the book. But he's a real serial killer. And it is a telling of the stories of some of his victims and other women who were impacted by his murders.

[Kathryn]

Oh, okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Kathryn]

And then I did read here I read Beautiful World, Where Are youe by Sally Rooney. That's a great book.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh yeah, she's wonderful.

[Kathryn]

And then there's the other book I read which isn't for everyone. It's called Hyper Focus, how to Work Less and Achieve More by Chris Bailey. But that was kind of just a. That's not a escapist book. That's more of like a functioning book.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Kathryn]

You know, like how to function better. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like a self helpy sort of thing.

[Kathryn]

Isn't it amazing though that you can read an Entire book and forget what the fuck it's about.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, it is amazing, and it is also very true. It just happens. I'll tell you what, I am sad that I spent 900 pages reading.

[Kathryn]

Did we ever talk about Cassandra at the Wedding by Dorothy Baker?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, we did.

[Kathryn]

Yeah, we did. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I did four myself to read the Mists of Avalon, which is, like, way from the 80s. And it's like a retelling of the Arthurian legends from the woman's perspective and man.

[Kathryn]

Arthurian legends? What is that?

[Danielle Fishel]

The legends of Arthur.

[Kathryn]

Who is that? King Arthur.

[Danielle Fishel]

King Arthur, yes. And it was so boring. And Nothing happened in 900 pages. And the end wasn't even satisfying.

[Kathryn]

That's kind of how I feel about demon Copperhead. It's just like, what? So depressing. The subject matter. I hate when there's crystal meth involved.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I don't like crystal meth.

[Kathryn]

Crystal meth. I mean, there may as well be. It's like the set. That's the setting. You know, it's like a trailer park. And. Yeah, there's like alcoholism and crystal meth. It's just like. I hate that vibe. It's like, I wanna be taken away on a journey. Like, the Elizabeth Gilbert book is so beautifully written because it's about her lover and she finds this love of her life, and then so she gets diagnosed with cancer. And it's about their last year, and they had been friends for years. And it's this beautiful Syrian woman, and she just is, like this show. The book is kind of like an homage to her love and, like, how special and vibrant this woman was. You know, she's so dynamic and complicated. And complicated. And she just like. And lights up every room she walks into or tears it apart. Yeah. So I could relate to that.

[Danielle Fishel]

One other book that I'll recommend to you and to the listeners is called Tits Up. And it is a nonfiction book, but it's called Tits. What sex workers, milk bankers, plastic surgeons, bra designers and witches tell us about breasts. And it's this woman, Sarah Thornton, and she had to get a double mastectomy and kind of went on this, like, journey to learn everything she could about breasts and socially, what the burden of breasts is and physically and the good things that they do. I mean, it was really interesting. And I used the book on tape for that one because it's read by the author, and she was great. So that is one I think our listeners would enjoy, too.

[Kathryn]

Okay, great. Well, that was a good little book.

[Danielle Fishel]

Book Roundup.

[Kathryn]

Book roundup.

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[Danielle Fishel]

Well, are you ready for a follow up?

[Kathryn]

Yes. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is from our Penis Toucher episode.

[Kathryn]

Penis what?

[Danielle Fishel]

Penis Toucher. Remember our guy Phil who catches himself? So I sent her a bunch of recommendations from listeners, most of which are.

[Kathryn]

Also to get a shotgun so the next time he touches his penis, she can just fucking shoot him.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I have a result that's even better than that. So most of them were about getting different kinds of underwear, which we talked about. Janelle said Duluth Trading Company makes special garments for men that have this issue called Bullpen, which I just think these names for. These are hilarious. Dave said. As a decently well endowed gay man, I feel this is my annual good deed for straight men. There are several companies most popular among gay men that design underwear that cradle all the goodies in a way that keeps them in a position to avoid the uncomfortable flop to the wrong side or split down.

[Kathryn]

Okay, wait a second. I need these underwear. Do you have the brand? Can we forward it to Garen.

[Danielle Fishel]

So he says, my favorite brand is called Andrew Christian.

[Kathryn]

Andrew Christian, Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

He said, you'll see on their website that is heavily marketed toward gay men. But I recommended them to a bunch of my straight buddies. And not only do they love them, but so do their partners.

[Kathryn]

Okay. I was at Wimbledon with a friend of mine, an old friend of mine. His name is Max Eisenbut. He works at img. I think he runs all of img, like, tennis, sports, whatever. Anyway, he married this girl that I went to high school with. Her name was Farrah Katz. She was the prettiest girl in high school. Max Eisenbud landed her. He looks like Mr. Potato Head. So the fact that he landed Farah Katz is ridiculous. So whenever I see him, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe she married you. You know, obviously, he does really well for a living. She's divorced, he's divorced. So they came together and they raised their kids together. And he's a good husband, probably, but probably not great. But anyway, I was with him during Wimbledon a lot at the IMG house. And I would come there, and it was very alarming. Cause he was sitting. He posts up in this, like, corner. Cause he's like the king. He acts like a king. And his legs are spread open. And I'm like, oh, my God, your fucking balls are humongous. And spread out, Max. I'm like, this is so revolting. I'm like, what are you wearing, a skirt underneath your pants? Like, what are you doing to contain your balls? And he's like, I don't know. I just have really big balls. I'm like, but you need to contain them. I'm like, whatever you're doing, you need to get a pair of underwear that embrace them, that wrap them up and split them so that one is on one side and one is on the other side. And that none of them are shooting down like a barrel.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, you shouldn't be seeing them. Underwear. I don't understand.

[Kathryn]

And boxer shorts are not. That's not underwear. That is not. As you get older, you need to reel them in and you need to contain them. You can't just let them go. Yeah. I mean, what is the point of boxer shorts? I don't understand. They're not doing anything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Keep you away from your jeans, I guess, and the zipper.

[Kathryn]

But they're for the man, not for the outsiders. Yeah, we need to something for the outsiders, people who are viewing you. If you're gonna sit there with your legs Wide open. Then you need to contain your balls in some sort of net situation. So can you please forward that company to Karen so she can order Max Eisenbud? Let me tell Karen right now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, it's Andrew Christian, and he says one of the collections is called Trophy Boy. So that is what we'll buy for Max Eisenbud.

[Kathryn]

Hold on. Let me just send Karen a voice memo. Karen, Katherine's sending you a link for these underpants. Can you get, like, a package for Max Eisenbud at a IMG and send them to him from Chelsea? Make sure they're. There are like, six or seven pairs, like a variety pack. Thank you.

[Danielle Fishel]

A week day of the week pack.

[Kathryn]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so I sent these along to Janet, who's Bill's wife, and she said, hi, Katherine. I'm humbled by this advice and wonderful community. Thanks for forwarding the advice. FYI, whenever Bill adjusts himself and doesn't realize it, my code word for him now is Chelsea.

[Kathryn]

Oh, that's. That's really heartwarming. Yeah, I love that.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought that was great.

[Kathryn]

I love entering marriages, like, in a confrontational way, but also keeping marriages together. You know, I mean, we're helping them.

[Danielle Fishel]

We split people up when they should be split up, and then we keep them together when they should be.

[Kathryn]

Well, wrapping up. This is us wrapping up. Bye, guys. We'll see you later. Oh, I added a second show in West Hampton, August 21st. Now I'm performing in West Hampton. And August 22nd, I'm performing in West Hampton. So go to chelseahandler.com to get your tickets dates. So I added a couple of new dates. I'm not on tour yet, but I added a couple of dates just because I felt like we need a little bit more laughter and a little bit more medicine for the end of the year. And I was wrapping things up, but I thought maybe let me do a couple more. So I'm adding three more dates. In addition to my Vegas residency, I'm doing West Hampton Beach August 21st. I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe Comedy Festival September 13th, and I will be in Napa on October 3rd. So those will be my last dates of the year.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write into dearchelseapodcastmail.com Find full video episodes.

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Kathryn]

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