Outsmarting Kangaroos with Eric Bana

Summary

Detailed Summary of "Dear Chelsea" Episode: Outsmarting Kangaroos with Eric Bana

Release Date: July 24, 2025

Introduction of Guests: Eric Bana and Phil

The episode kicks off with Chelsea Handler welcoming her special guests, actor Eric Bana and his boyfriend, Phil. Their banter begins with light-hearted discussions about Eric's recent experiences, including his foot surgery and the challenges he faces with constantly losing his glasses.

• Quote [03:26]:
  Eric Bana: “I have not been taking my mental. My BR. Plasma neurogens and my plasmologens and all my CoQ10 because of the surgery. So I'm a dumb dipshit.”

Personal Updates and Lighthearted Chats

Eric shares humorous anecdotes about his lost glasses and foot surgery recovery, providing listeners with a glimpse into his personal life. The conversation seamlessly shifts to promoting DreamWorks Animation's The Bad Guys 2, highlighting the film's cast and storyline.

• Quote [05:21]:
  Eric Bana: “Oh, my boyfriend is here today. You guys, this is my boyfriend Phil.”

Introduction of Phil and Discussion on "Untamed"

Phil Bana is introduced as Eric's boyfriend and a new guest on the show. The discussion delves into Phil’s latest project, the Netflix series Untamed. Phil expresses his enthusiasm for the pilot episode and the collaborative effort behind the show, emphasizing the unique setting and elements of danger that differentiate it from other crime dramas.

• Quote [29:35]:
  Phil Bana: “So, okay. Oh, my boyfriend is Eric Bana, guys. You know, I love him and he's here today because he's in a new show. He's on a new show. He's inside me. It's called Untamed and it's on Netflix.”

Advice Segment: Helping a Family Dreamer (Elizabeth)

Listener Elizabeth reaches out for advice on convincing her husband to pursue their long-held dream of living abroad in Barcelona. Chelsea and Phil offer supportive and pragmatic guidance, encouraging Elizabeth to seize the opportunity and assuring her that financial fears can be managed.

• Quote [33:50]:
  Phil Bana: “You've gotta go. You have to do it.”

Advice Segment: Navigating Unexpected Fatherhood (James)

James, a bisexual man from Louisiana, calls in about suspecting he might be the father of a child after a woman approached his mother with frightening assertions. Chelsea and Phil discuss the importance of handling the situation delicately, suggesting a DNA test and cautious communication with all parties involved.

• Quote [38:19]:
  Phil Bana: “It's not just a black and white situation...”

Advice Segment: Marital Struggles and Considering Divorce (Kate)

Kate shares her struggles with a long-term marriage where her husband's lack of ambition is impacting their financial stability and personal growth. The conversation between Chelsea and Phil centers on self-empowerment, the importance of aligning values, and the courage to make difficult decisions for personal well-being.

• Quote [54:57]:
  Kate: “I'm definitely leaning on that side of. I think that's where my head is at.”

Concluding Remarks and Upcoming Projects

As the episode nears its end, Phil discusses his upcoming performances and residencies in Las Vegas, highlighting his dedication to his craft despite personal challenges. The hosts wrap up by reiterating support for listeners facing similar dilemmas and promoting their ongoing projects.

Notable Promotions

Throughout the episode, subtle promotions for The Bad Guys 2 and Phil's new show Untamed are interwoven into the conversations, providing listeners with updates on Eric and Phil's professional endeavors.

Conclusion

This episode of Dear Chelsea offers a blend of personal anecdotes, professional insights, and heartfelt advice, all delivered with Chelsea Handler's signature humor and honesty. Through engaging dialogues and thoughtful guidance, Chelsea, along with her guests Eric Bana and Phil, create a supportive environment for listeners navigating complex life situations.

Highlighted Quotes with Timestamps:

• Foot Surgery and Supplements:
  [03:26] Eric Bana: “I have not been taking my mental. My BR. Plasma neurogens and my plasmologens and all my CoQ10 because of the surgery. So I'm a dumb dipshit.”

• Encouraging Pursuit of Dreams:
  [33:50] Phil Bana: “You've gotta go. You have to do it.”

• Handling Potential Fatherhood:
  [38:19] Phil Bana: “It's not just a black and white situation...”

• Marital Advice and Empowerment:
  [54:57] Kate: “I'm definitely leaning on that side of. I think that's where my head is at.”

This structured and detailed summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing valuable content for those who haven't listened while maintaining engagement through direct quotes and clear sections.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Chelsea Handler]

Hi Katherine.

[Katherine]

Hi Chelsea.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi.

[Eric Bana]

I'm wearing my glasses. My dark glasses. Like Stevie Wonder in the daylight. Because they're my prescription glasses.

[Katherine]

What do they say?

[Eric Bana]

They must be prescription glasses. I can't.

[Chelsea Handler]

I've lost four pairs of glasses in the last three.

[Eric Bana]

And I have this new favorite glasses.

[Chelsea Handler]

These look glasses.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah, they're like my the transitional are they called? Okay, I was calling them transgender for a while and I was like, they.

[Katherine]

Don'T make you look like a serial killer, do they? Like, they're not orange like they used to be, right?

[Eric Bana]

No, that guy from. You mean the guy from svu? That guy who wears them? What's his name? The actor?

[Katherine]

Everyone who wears a transition looks like a.

[Eric Bana]

They're like kind of green. They turn green.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes, yes, yes. No, I got rid of those.

[Eric Bana]

I got rid of those and now I have. It's this brand called Look. And they sent them like Eva Mendes was doing a line with them. So she sent me a bunch. Or they sent me a bunch and I was like, oh, I love these. I think I'm gonna do something with them because they're nice and big and they don't touch my face.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Eric Bana]

Which is what I want with glasses. Cause otherwise I have lines and indentations Anyway. I've lost three pair in the last two days, so my team is running around like crazy just trying to resupplement me. Supplement, supplify, supplicant. Listen, the last few weeks, I am not playing with a full deck of cards. After my foot surgery, I don't know if I announced I got foot surgery.

[Chelsea Handler]

But I think it's whatever.

[Eric Bana]

I mean, I pretty much announce everything.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Eric Bana]

I have not been taking my mental. My BR. Plasma neurogens and my plasmologens and all my CoQ10 because of the surgery. So I'm a dumb dipshit.

[Katherine]

It is really true. Coq10, like, helps with the brain fog.

[Chelsea Handler]

Brain fog.

[Eric Bana]

But I take all of these supplements for brain fog and now I know they fucking work. I don't know which one it is that works. But I am like, I try to say things and I'm like, wait, woohoo.

[Chelsea Handler]

Where?

[Eric Bana]

What? I can't think of the words I'm trying to use. And also I'm taking Norco because of the pain from my foot and also cause I love pills and you know, I only get 10 and so I've spaced them out in a nice way. Yeah. So it's been a little bit of a party for me.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

Well, I mean, that's not true.

[Eric Bana]

I just wanna mention I'm still not in my house. Everybody still haven't moved into my house.

[Katherine]

Oh my gosh.

[Eric Bana]

Supposed to come back from my European trip to move into my house, but no, no.

[Katherine]

You know, we were talking about this recently and like, I just wanna put it in perspective for the listeners, like, you Bought this house when the show.

[Eric Bana]

Was like 20, 24 months old.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I bought this house.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah, it's 2025.

[Katherine]

As long as people have been listening to the show, you have owned this house.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eric Bana]

So that's exciting.

[Katherine]

Is there any, like, update on it? Do they have a eta?

[Eric Bana]

Yes, it's in the final stages and at least now it is guaranteed work. So there's a warranty on all of the work. So now that they came in and fixed everything that my prior contractor fucked up, there is a warranty on the work. Okay. And so that it will be professionally done. And then I am hoping to either offload or rent this house out. I don't want anything to do with it.

[Katherine]

I think, yeah, the juju there is not for you.

[Eric Bana]

It's ruined. I had someone come in and cleanse the house.

[Chelsea Handler]

That did not work.

[Katherine]

Oh, no, no.

[Eric Bana]

Before that clearly didn't take. The only thing is Doug loves. Doug loves that house. So maybe I'll let people rent the house and also be with Doug.

[Katherine]

He can just be part of the rental.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah, he comes with the rental with.

[Chelsea Handler]

A couple of other people too, actually, so.

[Katherine]

Well, that sounds great. Today we have an awesome guest.

[Eric Bana]

Oh, my boyfriend is here today. You guys, this is my boyfriend Phil. My long term boyfriend. I've had a crush on him for years. He's definitely in my top, probably top five of like actor men that I've ever had a crush on because, I mean, the other ones are too old to fuck. Like all of the guys I like, like Robert De Niro, he's passed Harrison Ford.

[Chelsea Handler]

Too old.

[Eric Bana]

Like they've all, I don't know Harrison Ford. I mean, Harrison Ford is still hot.

[Chelsea Handler]

He's still got a six pack.

[Eric Bana]

So, like, I appreciate that kind of respect. You know what I mean?

[Chelsea Handler]

I appreciate when men show us the respect that we show them.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah, he's keeping it tight. Women are so taking care of their shit in ways that men don't. And then they hit a certain age, they fucking let it rip. And it's disgusting.

[Katherine]

Not Harrison.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah, no, I was on a beach in Portugal from my friend's 50th, and they all went in the ocean and there's like five men coming out of the ocean and five women. And I'm like, everybody stop right there. I go, men, I want you to take a look at these women and then I want you to take a look at your bodies. What are you thinking?

[Chelsea Handler]

Why do you get to look like that?

[Eric Bana]

And then women are keeping their shit Together.

[Katherine]

It's very King of Queens.

[Eric Bana]

Yes.

[Katherine]

Yes.

[Eric Bana]

It's very King of Queens. That reminds me, I need to reach out to Leah Remini. I haven't spoken to her in a few months. One of my buddies.

[Katherine]

Should we get her on the show?

[Chelsea Handler]

Absolutely. She would love to do the show. Yeah.

[Katherine]

Awesome.

[Eric Bana]

Well, she's studying. She's getting a law degree.

[Katherine]

Really?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Eric Bana]

She's fucking amazing.

[Katherine]

That's awesome. She's getting a law degree. Yeah. That's amazing.

[Eric Bana]

And, yeah. So, okay. Oh, my boyfriend. My boyfriend. See, I already forgot what I was talking about. Okay, so my boyfriend is Eric Bana, guys. You know, I love him and he's here today because he's in a new show. He's on a new show. He's in a new show. He's inside me. It's called Untamed and it's on Netflix. So please welcome my baby, my baby mama.

[Katherine]

Eric Bana.

[Eric Bana]

Eric Bana.

[Chelsea Handler]

Welcome to America. Eric Bana. Welcome to America.

[Phil]

Thanks, Chelsea. This is my official welcome.

[Chelsea Handler]

This is your first. I'm surprised you're here actually in person.

[Phil]

This is what I expect at customs, you know, like when I'm getting my passport stamped.

[Chelsea Handler]

Things have changed.

[Phil]

This would be much better.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Things have changed a lot since your last trip over here. Cause I know you do come when you have to do press to America. I know your wife doesn't like to travel. Rebecca doesn't like to travel. But you come.

[Phil]

She came on this trip, actually. I coaxed her in. Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Are you trying to make me jealous?

[Phil]

No, I'm just pointing out that I managed to, you know, get her on a plane. But no, I don't come here too often. I haven't been here for quite some time. But anyway, it's lovely to see you.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's lovely. It's always lovely to see you. You know who I was with last night?

[Phil]

No, I don't.

[Chelsea Handler]

Connie Britton.

[Phil]

No way.

[Chelsea Handler]

Who Eric starred with in Dirty John.

[Katherine]

Was one of your favorites.

[Chelsea Handler]

We've actually spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about Dirty John. I don't know if we had you on to talk about Dirty John. No, but Connie's a very close friend of mine.

[Phil]

Right.

[Chelsea Handler]

And we were out of friends house last night. And I just think that whole story, you know, Dirty John was just. I know Connie was acting, but she kind of is dingy like that in real life. So I always like to remind her that I found out.

[Phil]

You're saying it wasn't a stretch?

[Chelsea Handler]

I just was like, how could anyone be that stupid to believe this guy. And I didn't like you playing that role either, because you know that I have strong feelings about your acting, your performing. You know that I've always had a crush on you. I mean, we've passed the point of it being an issue.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Because we've known each other for so many years, so it's not an issue. You know, I've met your wife. I understand, you know, so it's not a problem. But I didn't like seeing you play that kind of character.

[Phil]

No. Fair enough. And I had a lot of people who had a. Had a visceral physical reaction to me after that. Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, people would, like, cross the street. And even people that, like in my suburb, you know, coffee shops and stuff, they just kind of, like, kind of recoil for a couple of months, which I took as a good sign, actually. You know what? I should play more of those sort of characters. I want people to recoil when they see me and run.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, well, that's better than being bombarded all the time. I would imagine you would want a break from people at some point. I mean, I feel like, yeah, that was a really repellent character. But, I mean, you've played other repellent characters.

[Phil]

You know what? I love repellent characters.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, you like that?

[Phil]

I love to be repellent.

[Chelsea Handler]

I mean, the new show that you're on is Untamed. It's on Netflix, started streaming. And that I like, because you were on a horse immediately out of the gate. You were on a horse and you were a park ranger and, you know, some sort of detective. That's where I like non repellent.

[Katherine]

That's what.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's the vibe I like to see you in and embody. That's when I feel the safest with you, is when you're in this kind of role. You're solving a crime. You know what I mean? People.

[Phil]

You're like the tough guy, supposedly trustworthy.

[Chelsea Handler]

Supposedly.

[Phil]

Well, let's see.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. I mean, you're Australian, so. Not in this movie, though. I mean, in this show, you're not Australian. You play an American, and the accent is very good.

[Phil]

Well, if at this stage, if I can't, I'm in trouble. Right.

[Chelsea Handler]

Why do you think it is, Eric, that so many Australians can do such great American accents, but Americans can't really ever do Australian accents?

[Phil]

You know why? Cause you don't try.

[Chelsea Handler]

Really?

[Phil]

Yeah. When was the last time you tried to do an Australian accent?

[Chelsea Handler]

I can say no, no, I know how to Say that.

[Phil]

No, I honestly, I would really love to see more Americans forced to do an Australian accent.

[Chelsea Handler]

They would be eliminated from the acting industry because it would be brut. That would be brutal.

[Phil]

It's like a tax we have to pay, you know, to work internationally. We're either playing Brits or we're playing Americans. We don't have a choice. You don't see Australian people in international film. Right. We just don't exist. We don't exist as a species. There shall be no Australians appearing as Australian in any film or TV show.

[Chelsea Handler]

You think you deserved that?

[Phil]

Yes, we do. We've worked for it. We've worked.

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't know. I mean, it's a very young country, you know? I mean, you guys are a younger country than America and peopled with criminals, of course. And littered with criminals.

[Eric Bana]

Right.

[Phil]

That's a fair point. I'll get back into my show.

[Chelsea Handler]

I know a lot about you. I know that you love race car driving. Like, you're really into that. I saw a film once that you did about it, and I know you're a big family man. I didn't know that you were attacked by kangaroos.

[Phil]

Attacked by kangaroos?

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, were you in a kangaroo fight?

[Phil]

I was picked on by a kangaroo once when I was camping by myself. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It was just one guy. He was, I think, the leader of the pack of the valley. I picked the wrong spot to pitch a tent, and he shaped up to me.

[Chelsea Handler]

He did, yeah. Yeah. What is the process of. How do you handle. How does one handle an infraction with a kangaroo?

[Phil]

Well, I'm glad you asked because I didn't know either. I wanted to Google, what the hell do I do? This guy wants a fight. I had no cell phone coverage, Right?

[Chelsea Handler]

Of course not. You're in the outback.

[Phil]

I'm in the outback. And so I thought, I'll scare him off with my motorcycle. And I walked behind the motorcycle, I put the bike between me and him, and I started it up. I'm like, this 1200cc beast is just. He's just gonna go running. And. And he didn't move, he didn't flinch. And he actually had a facial expression, like. Really? Yeah, really. That you think that's gonna. And then he just kept hopping around, trying to square off at me. I since learned that I should have perhaps not made so much eye contact and sort of gone into his space. I should have retreated. But I had the worst night's sleep. I was in a Single man tent. And I was just picturing, like, Cujo, you know, like this thing's just gonna come in and just rip me to pieces. But I survived.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, you're a survivor. And it's funny, though, you don't think of kangaroos as a very aggressive type animal, but they are kind of aggressive.

[Phil]

They can be. They can be. Look, my fault was the kangaroo.

[Chelsea Handler]

Were you drinking with a kangaroo? Because I know a woman who had a cocktail with a monkey and then the monkey attacked her.

[Phil]

No, I was not drinking. I was, but as I said, like, I would have attacked him if he was in my. If. If he appeared in my bedroom as well. I. I was in his backyard. I was sleeping under his tree. I had. I didn't know. I should have done my homework.

[Chelsea Handler]

What other close calls have you been involved in? Have you ever had a shark incident?

[Phil]

No. No.

[Chelsea Handler]

Have you ever seen a shark?

[Phil]

Oh, yeah, I've seen plenty of sharks. There's a place we used to go to called Lord Howe island, which has loads of sharks out on. Past the reef, but not where you swim, you know, Like, I think they're pretty safe. I love them.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, well, all Australians say that. And they say they're not here to eat us. They're not, but they are eating people. So, like, I know they're just trying to take a bite and then they decide, oh, I don't like that, but whoopsie doodle, then the person's leg is missing.

[Phil]

Yeah, I think the sharks that do that are a little bit off, if you know what I'm saying.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, oh, like, okay, I think they're.

[Katherine]

Copy that.

[Chelsea Handler]

Copy that.

[Phil]

They've been, you know, discarded from the pack, perhaps.

[Chelsea Handler]

What about poison? Well, I don't think they travel in packs, but anyway.

[Phil]

Been to Australia. Don't make it. Don't make it sound like this. Unwelcoming, you know, violence.

[Chelsea Handler]

I love Australia. First of all, you don't have to tell me about Australia. I know you're from Melbourne and I. But I prefer Sydney. Sydney is. I just was there last year. I did a tour there again. I reached out to you, of course, to invite you to my show, as usual, and you didn't show up.

[Phil]

Well, I was in Canada making the show we're here to talk about. So I wouldn't be here now if I wasn't unavailable to you back then.

[Chelsea Handler]

Obviously, we need you on Untamed. That was a priority. What about a deadly snake? Have you ever come into contact with a deadly snake? Because I fucking hate snakes.

[Phil]

Yes, unfortunately, Yes, I like to play golf, and I see them quite a lot. We get browns and all sorts of stuff.

[Chelsea Handler]

The brown ones are the really dangerous ones. But in Australia, basically, all snakes are dangerous.

[Phil]

Yeah, a lot of them are. But again, you know, like, they. You're going into their area, Chelsea. Like, they're not come. Actually, sometimes in Queensland, they might put themselves inside your shoes.

[Chelsea Handler]

Are they. Are they golfing? That doesn't seem like their area. That definitely seems like another area.

[Phil]

Invading on the fairway. Actually, they do cross the fairway sometimes as well.

[Chelsea Handler]

The brown ones are the grossest ones. I find those.

[Phil]

Yeah, they're big. They're big and they're thick.

[Chelsea Handler]

And I once saw a picture of, like, a golf course that had. Was just laden with all of these snakes. I don't think it was in Australia. It was probably somewhere in Florida. But there were, like, eight or ten huge snakes on the golf course. And I'm like, oh, my God. That is, like, my worst nightmare. Are you a good golfer?

[Phil]

No, I'm not very good. My wife's way better, unfortunately, but I'm only three years in.

[Chelsea Handler]

Is your wife teaching you how to golf?

[Phil]

God, don't bring this up. She's so good. It's annoying, but, you know, she's a better athlete. She played tennis as a kid, and it just. I can't say it comes natural to her. She's worked really hard. Anyway, she's about seven shots ahead of me. Can we move on?

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, you're embarrassed and you shouldn't be. It's good. Well, women are much.

[Phil]

No, I shouldn't be embarrassed. You know, why shouldn't she be better than me? Why should I expect to be better than her?

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, because you're an Australian male. That's probably why you're thinking that. By the way, that's a urine sample. Just kidding. I would never do that to you. I would never do that to you. Okay, so now let's talk about some of your roles, because I want to know which ones mean the most to you. What role of yours made you like. I know you loved working on Troy, right? With Brad Pitt.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

And who else was on that movie? Was it Orlando Bloom?

[Phil]

Orlando Bloom.

[Chelsea Handler]

He's funny.

[Phil]

So many great actors. Sean Bean, Mr. Cox. I mean, it was just. Yeah, it was just amazing.

[Chelsea Handler]

And I know you said about that movie, like, had it made no money, you would have still been just happy that you had done it because you were in such good company and you enjoyed it.

[Phil]

I feel like that on everything I work on. Do you always, always like, what happens afterwards. Like, you just. You do the thing and it's like you put that experience in a box and you lock it away. And sometimes, I know this sounds ridiculous, sometimes I actually forget that people are going to see the thing. Like, now I'm out here talking about the.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's already over.

[Phil]

I had such an amazing time filming that last year. And you know how beautiful it is in bc, outside the back of Whistler, where we shot most of this. I mean, I was getting paid to be on a horse up in the mountains every day, hanging around with the most incredible crew, working with amazing riders. And then now I'm like, oh, that's right. People are gonna see that. I forget. I forget we're making it for people. Like, it wasn't just for us. Like, I literally forget.

[Chelsea Handler]

But it's also, like, with the way the industry is now, there's so much. You know what I mean? We're so saturated with so many TV show, so many films. There's so much that it's like, it's not as big of a drumbeat to get to things, for releases, for things as it used to be.

[Phil]

Yeah, that's true.

[Chelsea Handler]

You know, it feels like there's a lot more that comes and goes much quicker. So to have something like a project adding onto what you're saying that there's, like a little bit of lag time to promoting something. But British Columbia, I think, is, I think you'll agree with me, one of the most beautiful parts of the whole world.

[Phil]

Yeah. I mean, in some ways, we were lucky. We couldn't get into the key parts of Yosemite, where the series is set in summer because of practicality reasons. So we ended up.

[Chelsea Handler]

Because of what happened with you and that kangaroo.

[Phil]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chelsea Handler]

Exactly.

[Phil]

They heard. So we ended up in B.C. at the back of Whistler for most of it.

[Chelsea Handler]

And did you see any bears when you were in bc?

[Phil]

Do you know what? I wanted to. I wanted to. And I saw none. And we had a bear guy. We had a bear guy who was like, you know, our safety and the bear's safety. I'm like, dude, you're full of shit. Where are the bears? Like, there's just nothing I wanted to, like. I heard a rumour that some actors in the past had put stakes outside of their. I'm not gonna mention any names.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Phil]

Not on our show. By the.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[Phil]

Well, had put stakes on plates outside their trailers to try and get an Instagram moment. I didn't do that, but I didn't see one bear. So I need to go. I mean, I would have more chance of seeing a bear on a ski lift in winter than I did on this show.

[Chelsea Handler]

Where did you guys stay? Off the back of Whistler. You keep saying where. Where were you? Do you know where you were?

[Phil]

Well, we stayed in Whistler and then we travel out into the back. Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

You know I have a house in Whistler.

[Phil]

Well, I know, but you never offered it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, I didn't even know you were. No, I didn't know you were there. This is you. This is what I'm talking about with our relationship. You're constantly very close by and acting like you're nowhere else.

[Phil]

So you claim no one at Whistler told you I was there?

[Chelsea Handler]

No, no one.

[Phil]

Really?

[Chelsea Handler]

You would have heard from me, Eric, if I had known you were in Whistler, you definitely would have known.

[Phil]

You don't go there in the summer.

[Chelsea Handler]

No, I go in the winter. I go to ski. You know, I like skiing, so I knew that. So yeah, I've never seen a bear there either. Really? And at end of ski season, when the whip, when the snow melts everyone, there's always bears, you know. So this year I stayed extra long because I love the idea of seeing a bear. My dogs look like bears. I feel like I have a connection to bears and I feel like I could handle a bear. You know what I mean? I would know what to do in that situation more so than a snake or a shark or a kangaroo.

[Phil]

Right.

[Chelsea Handler]

But this year I kept waiting and they were like, oh, there's a bear at the end of the road. And then we drive down the end of the road, the bear would be gone. So I still haven't seen my real life bear.

[Phil]

The area that we were filming in at the back of the old Olympic ski park, there is a grizzly there called Debbie, which they saw at some stage in pre production. I'm like, debbie, where are you? Like, Debbie did not come out.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Especially a grizzly.

[Phil]

She's like a big grizzly.

[Chelsea Handler]

But a female grizzly is gonna be even than a male grizzly.

[Phil]

Fantastic.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So back to the question about what movie role do you think? Like, what is one movie role that you think has had the biggest, not even impact professionally, but on you personally?

[Phil]

That's a really good question. Cause I've had like four or five that have been really special. But in terms of which ones long term friendships. My first big American film was Black Hawk down, which was this huge ensemble. And I to this day have like, three or four of my closest friends are from that shoot that we still in contact with. We had hotel rooms on the same floor. My son was, like, 18 months, I think, at the time. When we turned up, he was 2 by the time we left. I'm literally catching up with one of those people tomorrow night.

[Chelsea Handler]

Great.

[Phil]

So in terms of, like, impact on your life, I'd say that would be the greatest. Mainly because the friendships that were forged. And I'm not alone. There was, like, different gangs of friendships on that film. Cause the cast was so huge. Of, like, two people there, three people there, five people there. And it's the same for everyone. Everyone is, like, super, super tight from that film. Troy was really special. Munich was really special.

[Chelsea Handler]

Munich was a great film.

[Phil]

Yeah. There's been so many that I think the big long shoots where everyone's away from home has something special to it. I'm usually the only guy who's away from home. I'm usually somewhere where everyone's sleeping in their own beds at night and I'm going back to an apartment and whatever. But on the big ones like that, it's a bit more of a bonding experience.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Which is hard because you're also away. There's a bit of a summer camp vibe to it.

[Phil]

Exactly.

[Chelsea Handler]

You know.

[Phil]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

I mean, and I know it's hard for you to be away from your family, too. I mean, maybe it's not hard, but it's obviously not. You'd rather be with your family, and you're the one traveling from Australia. But your kids are grown up now and in college.

[Phil]

Yeah. Well, they're past that stage at 23 and 25. Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

And are they still speaking to you?

[Phil]

They're still speaking to me. Isn't that fantastic?

[Katherine]

Wow.

[Phil]

Yeah. One of them just FaceTimed me from Europe today. They're out of the house and stuff, so. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so old.

[Chelsea Handler]

What are you and Rebecca gonna do now that your kids are, like, adults?

[Katherine]

Empty now.

[Chelsea Handler]

So how are you going to celebrate your life?

[Phil]

We'll do more travel. We'll play more golf. We'll have some fun. We'll Dr. Get her to drink more than one glass of alcohol a week. You know, get her to go.

[Chelsea Handler]

She's.

[Phil]

Loosen up.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, absolutely. Remember that.

[Phil]

Can I send it to you for a week?

[Chelsea Handler]

Absolutely. I can train anybody. I can train anybody to drink more. Remember we went to dinner one night in Melbourne, and then I got into the van on the way out and I went to go take a step up. I Had had a few cocktails, of course, and I stepped up and then I kind of fell into the van and Eric's like, you're right there. And just kept walking. Just walking by me. No, I think this is a perfect time for you guys to travel. Enjoy your lives. You know, it's so nice when kids are grown up and you've like, they're cooked. I know, they're never fully cooked.

[Phil]

Exactly. No, it is. It does feel amazing. And it's also that it's that age you think will never happen. You know, when you've got, like, you just think this point will never ever come where you'll just travel and it won't really matter where you are because they're not around. So it's. No, it's kind of fun. I mean, it's kind of sad in some ways, but yeah, it's amazing.

[Chelsea Handler]

And what do you think if you had to describe yourself as a dad, how would you describe yourself?

[Phil]

Oh, God, I definitely try and be funny. I think my wife and I are really similar. Like, we're just really into it. Really into being parents. Like, we were always really, really into it. So I would say they were always sick of me being around. They were like, can you just go back to work? Like, enough of you already. So, yeah, I don't know. Something like that.

[Chelsea Handler]

Did you find out that you. Were you surprised to find out how much patience you had as a father?

[Phil]

Well, it depends on the day of the week, right? Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Would you say patience is one of your strong suits or one of your less strong suits?

[Phil]

No, I would say in life in general and in work, I'm very, very patient. Very, very patient.

[Chelsea Handler]

Are you?

[Katherine]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

I need to work on my patience.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Stupid people. It's very hard for me.

[Phil]

No, fair enough.

[Chelsea Handler]

You know, stupid people. It's very hard for dumb everywhere. I don't like to. I want everyone to assess a situation quickly and then move on.

[Phil]

Is it stupid people or is it inefficiency? Because I have discovered recently that. That all of my close friends, all of my male close friends are high intelligence and have no capacity for inefficiency. It's just. I just discovered this one day when I was telling my wife about the story. I was just recently traveling with a buddy of mine and his bugbear is checking into hotels. Anything more than three words, Any fingers that tap more than three words.

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't even wanna interact with the person. Yeah, yeah, just bring me to my room and then also don't come in.

[Phil]

Yeah. Hand me the key. Don't give me the tour. Say nothing.

[Chelsea Handler]

My issue with impatience is when the interaction just. Yes, it's exactly that. When it could be succinct, and yet it keeps going and there's a back and forth. It's like, I already have clocked what's going on, and I've expressed to you via mi ojos that this is not. Like, this is over. Like, I got it. You know, it's even on planes. I notice when people. It's almost like people want to just waste time, you know, talking to people. I think when people. I think planes specifically. Cause people seem to get nervous on planes, and I think they like to talk too much just because they're feeling nervous ordering food.

[Phil]

Like people that. You know. Like when you're in line and someone's ordering and they're having, like, a conversation with the cashier.

[Eric Bana]

Oh, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's so fucking annoying. I hate that. Or in airports when people are just standing there, I'm like, what are you doing? Move. You're not. No one is here to hang out and meet friends here. No one is here for that reason. The purpose of an airport is to get from one place to the next place. So fucking move your feet. I don't understand either. What's going on.

[Phil]

No. Three or four breasts. Fucking. Come on.

[Katherine]

Oh, no, please. Cause those people are never paying attention either.

[Chelsea Handler]

Don't throw that word around either. Are you somebody that would ever listen to a show, watch a show on your phone, or have a FaceTime call on your phone without a pair of headphones on? Eric?

[Phil]

No, Exactly. No.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's the right answer. I had to confront about three different people on my last travels. I was just in Europe for two months, and I guess.

[Phil]

Were they Americans?

[Chelsea Handler]

No, they were men, though. They were men. There was one woman, and she was elderly. So I was like, am I gonna. Cause I am very.

[Phil]

Listen, she might have been hard of.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hearing well, but she still could get her headphones. I mean. You know what I mean?

[Phil]

It might affect her hearing aids or something. See, that's where I'm going along.

[Chelsea Handler]

Well, that's n. But I thought if I don't say. If I said something to the two men and I didn't say something to the woman, then that would be sexist, and I don't want to be sexist.

[Phil]

You're a modern woman.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, exactly. You knew that.

[Phil]

Write that bitch down.

[Chelsea Handler]

So I said, excuse me, miss, do you have a set of headphones? And she goes, oh, I'm so sorry, but yeah, there was a good reaction.

[Phil]

Were you surprised by how well, she was?

[Chelsea Handler]

No, because I'm so nice about it. I go, I'm so sorry. Would you mind not watching that fucking race car show at full blast volume while we're on a fucking plane together when everyone. It's just so inconsiderate, you know? I mean, it's definitely more of a male thing. Of course, like everything where people just don't consider that other people may not want to hear your social media or your FaceTime call. I mean, it kills me when someone's on a FaceTime call without a guy walking down the street and you're just like, do you think. Do you want people to hear your conversation?

[Phil]

They do. That's the truth.

[Chelsea Handler]

No, they do.

[Phil]

They totally do.

[Chelsea Handler]

They do.

[James]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, we're gonna take a break and we're gonna be right back with my favorite Eric Bana. Okay, the Bad guys are back. And they've brought back up.

[Eric Bana]

I'm talking about DreamWorks Animation's the Bad Guys 2.

[Chelsea Handler]

And it is going to be the baddest comedy of the summer. I mean, how could it not? The all star cast is back for round two. Sam Rockwell, Marc Maron, Craig Robinson, Anthony.

[Eric Bana]

Ramos and Awkwafina make up the world's.

[Chelsea Handler]

Most lovable crew of criminals who are trying and hilariously failing to stay on the straight and narrow.

[Eric Bana]

And that's when a new crew shows up.

[Chelsea Handler]

The Bad Girls, played by favorites like Danielle Brooks and Natasha Lyonne.

[Eric Bana]

And they are hilarious.

[Chelsea Handler]

They pull the bad guys into a globetrotting heist that's bigger and badder than anything they've ever faced. I mean, with so much action and comedy, plus this ridiculously talented cast, the Bad Guys 2 is the kind of movie that you just have to see in theaters. Get tickets now for DreamWorks animations. The Bad Guys 2. In theaters August 1st. Rated PG. I want to talk about something deeply personal.

[Eric Bana]

My feet.

[Chelsea Handler]

Are you excited yet? I've been wearing ultra running shoes lately, and honestly, life changing. They're now my go to for everything from runs to hikes to dog walks to airport sprints, you name it.

[Eric Bana]

They've got extra room up front so.

[Chelsea Handler]

Your toes can actually spread out and move the way that they're supposed to, which is way better than most running shoes that cram my toes together. Plus, the lower heel drop means your stride feels more natural. It's like my body finally went, oh, this is how we're supposed to move.

[Eric Bana]

They are crazy comfortable.

[Chelsea Handler]

And yes, they help Me chase that runner's high. You know mama loves her dopamine and feeling strong and actually wanting to work out. So if you're getting into running, getting back into it, or just want healthier feet so you can get on a feed finder, Altra is where it's at. Find [e-mail] and use code Chelsea for 10% off your order. That's a L, T R a running.com. stay out there.

[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, and we're back with Eric Bana. Okay, tell me why you wanted to do Untamed.

[Phil]

Eric, I loved the pilot episode. When it was sent to me, I just thought it was so brilliantly written. So it's. And selfishly, as an actor, you. Honestly, when I'm reading something, I'm reading something as an audience first. That's the truth.

[Chelsea Handler]

As an actor or as a person?

[Phil]

As a person. As like, does this interest me? Do I think this is great? And then the second time it's like selfishly diving in. Okay, what's this character like? Blah, blah. So I read I'm like, I'm so in. I like, whether I'm in this show or not, I'm watching this like it's not gonna be on my list.

[Chelsea Handler]

Cause the first episode is very intense. Lots of things happen.

[Katherine]

Oh my gosh. The opening, I was like panicking under my covers.

[Phil]

I loved it. And I loved the character of Kyle. And then I met with Mark and we spoke and I was like, I want to help set this up. I want to make this show. So that was five years ago. So it took us quite a while to get to this point.

[Chelsea Handler]

See, I would lose interest in something if it took five years.

[Phil]

You gotta have patience.

[Chelsea Handler]

But five years is such a long time.

[Phil]

I wouldn't be here talking about this if I had no patience.

[Chelsea Handler]

I know.

[Phil]

Anyway, no, I just loved it. And I. Because I love a murder mystery. So many of us do. But I'm done with people driving around in cars and knocking on doors. So here we were in a national park, trying to solve a crime. But in the most beautiful, epic setting, which has an element of danger to it. And for those of us who love nature, we know, like there's yin and yang. It's like you're exposed. It's amazing. But there's always this element that I could be in a little bit of danger here. So I love the idea of that genre or that, that kind of program, but set somewhere amazing as a point of difference.

[Chelsea Handler]

Uh huh. Yeah. I mean, it means even more to me now that I know it was shot in Whistler. I didn't even know that. I didn't even recognize it watching it, that it was shot in Whistler.

[Phil]

Well, hopefully you don't, because, you know, we had some bee stuff from Yosemite that we stitch in to make it, you know.

[Chelsea Handler]

Right, right.

[Phil]

So that's good.

[Chelsea Handler]

All national parks look the same to me.

[Phil]

You know what, Once you're in the.

[Chelsea Handler]

Woods, once you're a park ranger for one park, you're a park ranger for pretty much all parks.

[Phil]

I'm not a park ranger, but anyway.

[Chelsea Handler]

No, I'm talking about myself. I'm a park ranger.

[Katherine]

You're a federal agent, right?

[Phil]

I'm a federal security Services branch. Thank you.

[Chelsea Handler]

You're a permanent investigative whatever. And put an investigator in front of anything. And that's what he is. Yeah. Yeah.

[Katherine]

Well, should we start with.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I want to hear Eric give advice to people.

[Phil]

This is what sort of advice?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, this is called Dear Chelsea, first of all. So it's called like Dear Abby. So people are gonna call in for life advice. And based on your. Based on your life experience, Eric, everything you've been through, you are gonna tell them what you think they should do.

[Phil]

Fantastic. Well, hang on. Will they listen?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, will they listen?

[Phil]

Will they take it on board? Do I get evidence as to whether they took this shit up or not?

[Katherine]

I'll let you know. Because people follow up with us.

[Phil]

Cause my wife and I are sick and tired of giving advice to people that they don't take up.

[Katherine]

Okay, that's true.

[Phil]

This comes with a price. There's gonna be follow up. Come on, let me add them.

[Katherine]

And you can demand it. Of the callers when they come on, you can say, you better follow the caller.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's. That's a good approach.

[Katherine]

Well, this one's just an email, but I thought this would be a good one. We were just talking about traveling and, you know, especially since you have two grown kids, you might have some insight on this. Elizabeth says, dear Chelsea, for the sake of sisterhood, help a girl out. Back on our third date, 18 years and two kids ago, my husband and I dreamed of living abroad for a year or two. Think Europe, Asia. Epic memories. Before our kids hit high school and stopped thinking we're cool, we fell in love with Barcelona a decade ago and said, this is the place. Well, one day is now, our son's headed into sixth, daughter into third, and the clock is ticking. We can technically afford it in the long run, but my husband, who runs his own law practice, calls it, quote, financial suicide. Meanwhile, I've been in and out of full time work since COVID and the plan would be for me to be on team logistics while he keeps the lights on. He feels the pressure. I get it. But also, yolo. How do I get him to jump? We both want this. We're dreamers. This country is a dumpster fire. The kids are still impressionable. And honestly, the crisp Spanish white wine is calling tips. Pep talk, Chelsea Wisdom. I'll take it all, Elizabeth.

[Chelsea Handler]

I mean, I think you have to go for it. You have to. First of all, no time like the present, especially with what's happening in our country. A great reason to get out of there and great reason to expose your kids. I mean, I'm surprised they're even willing to take their eight and third grader. Eight year old who are eight and third grade. Whatever the ages are.

[Katherine]

Yeah, eight is third grade.

[Chelsea Handler]

But I mean, if they made that agreement, then they should follow through on that. That's a good idea, don't you think?

[Phil]

I think it's a terrible Idea.

[Chelsea Handler]

You do?

[Phil]

No, I'm joking. Absolutely. It is the best thing they will ever do for their kids, for their marriage, for themselves. I understand hubby's point of view. He's a bit stressed about it, but 10 years from now, he'll look back and go, I don't know why I was stressed about that financial situation. I made good on that, you know, like, within two years. But the kids will never forget it. Our kids traveled a lot through my job. They remember every single location we ever shot in. They remember absolute specifics. So it's a no brainer. You've gotta do it. How do you get the husband over the line? You tell him, Threaten him? Oh, no. It only gets harder as the kids get older. If you don't do it now, you will not do it. And listen, don't let him say, you know what, let's check in again in two years. That's not gonna happen.

[Katherine]

Sixth grade is right before junior high.

[Phil]

You've gotta go.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, yeah, right. You do have to. And also, you have to take life by the like, you know, saying something like it's a financial suicide is very dramatic.

[Katherine]

Yes.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's actually not gonna be financial suicide. You'll figure it out. And everyone does figure these things out.

[Katherine]

And even to that end, like, I'm not exactly sure about the logistics, but, like, he could have a paralegal or an assistant who's stateside and in your time zone, and he can be working remotely, I would imagine.

[Phil]

But you know what else? The financial suicide thing, that's something that's in your head when you're in your current bubble. And the minute they land in. Where is it? Barcelona. The word financial suicide will slip out of his brain.

[Katherine]

Gone.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. You're always worried about the things that.

[Phil]

Get on that plane.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

And it'd be great for your kids to learn Spanish. That's really important for Americans. And then also, like, they're not just gonna be in Barcelona. You're gonna be taking weekend trips all over Europe.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, you guys can go spend time in my house in Mallorca. I mean, there you go.

[Katherine]

Perfect.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Hello.

[Katherine]

All right, done. Elizabeth, let your husband know.

[Phil]

But again, I want to hear. I want to hear. Elizabeth, I want to see a photo from Barcelona.

[Chelsea Handler]

I'm going to email with you. Okay? You can count on that.

[Katherine]

And you know what? I'll even say, elizabeth, if your husband is not convinced, you guys can call in for a couples counseling with Chelsea.

[Chelsea Handler]

Tell him Eric Bana just told him to do it. Like there's not gonna be a bigger conversation after that. I don't say I don't think so either.

[Katherine]

Well, our first caller is James. James is from Louisiana. He says, dear Chelsea, I'm a 26 year old bisexual man from south Louisiana. I've only been with men since coming out about six years ago. I live in a small town where everyone knows everybody's business. This past Christmas Eve, my mom was in the Dollar General when the mother of an old friend of mine walked up to her. She proceeded to tell my mom that she thinks her daughter's child is mine. Within the first couple of minutes of hearing this, I was in denial. But after looking through pictures though, I'm convinced the child is mine. The quote unquote father of the child doesn't know this information and the mother is in a mental health facility for 18 months getting help. I'm at a loss for words over this one and would love some advice. Thanks for everything you do, James.

[Chelsea Handler]

Whoa, whoa, James. Hi, this is our special guest Eric Bana today.

[Phil]

Hey, James.

[James]

Hi, it's nice to meet y'.

[Phil]

All. You too, man.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hey.

[Katherine]

And James is having a bout of Bell's palsy, so we have a little bit of a slurred speech.

[Chelsea Handler]

No problem, no problem. All good? Yeah. Well, it sounds like you're dealing with a lot of stuff right now.

[James]

Yes, I am.

[Chelsea Handler]

And how do you think you want to handle this?

[James]

I'm still just kind of like dealing with this at the moment. But as far as like the kids situation goes, I mean, I've had a similar view on kids as you have, and I've never really especially. I haven't been with a girl since like 2018, so that's something. But then what's really pulling me in are the amount of like, concerning things like with the child's father, supposed father. He has like a Confederate flag on the back of his truck, which is like all you need to know about that. And especially growing up down here. My cousin actually babysit the child before because it's a small town, everyone knows everyone. She had like seen a picture of the kid on the fridge and had asked like, hey, is that James the mom? She said, no, that's the kid. But we think that James is the kid's father and told her not to say anything. And this is like a few months before she admitted herself into that mental health facility for 15 months. So, yeah. And then there's little things like the kid liked My Little Pony and stuff like that. And he also has like a brother Who's a complete opposite, more similar to the father.

[Chelsea Handler]

But you definitely had sex with this woman right there. Theoretically, you could be the father.

[James]

I did once, yes.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, okay. So you could be the father.

[James]

I could be the father.

[Chelsea Handler]

Wow, that's heavy.

[Phil]

But you don't know 100%.

[James]

We don't. And my mom was in talks with the grandmother about, like a DNA test and stuff like that, but they kind of thought it would be a better idea to wait until she gets out so she doesn't feel, like, blindsided, which I understand.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she's already got a husband with a Confederate flag, so.

[James]

Yeah. And they're actually. So they're not really, like, together is another thing.

[Chelsea Handler]

Who's looking after this little girl right now? Her grandparents.

[James]

So it's a boy, but yeah, her grandparents. And she's staying with the. They're staying with the dad.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay.

[James]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

I think you need to process exactly how you wanna approach this before you actually make any move. You know what I mean? Since it's a huge responsibility and it is like the rest of your life, you first of all wanna go about it the right way and actually make sure that she is your daughter 100%. And do a DNA test because. Son. Sorry. I'm sorry.

[James]

It's okay. It's all right.

[Chelsea Handler]

And do a DNA test, but also figure out what the timing of that. What the timing is, and what makes most sense with regard to the mother being in that facility. Right. Like, there's a lot of delicate issues around this.

[James]

Correct. And she does get out in November, so.

[Katherine]

Okay.

[James]

That's something.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. I think maybe at that time you can take it upon yourself to suggest that, you know, in a face to face with her about doing a DNA test or if she thinks that you're the father, you might not be.

[James]

That's also true.

[Chelsea Handler]

So. Yeah. So it's not like, you know, a black and white situation just yet. I think it's a very. Something that you really have to handle with a lot of delicacy, you know, until you actually do a DNA test.

[James]

Got you.

[Katherine]

Do you think that he should have a conversation with the grandma, the one who approached his mom, and just to sort of like get the lay of the land with the supposed father and the mom?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I think that would be. Are you up for that?

[James]

Yeah, I'm totally up for that.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Eric Bana]

I think you just be as nice.

[Chelsea Handler]

And reasonable as you obviously are and have a conversation with her. If she's the one who initiated that conversation, follow up with it, like any responsible adult male would, you know, or should.

[James]

She literally walked up to my mom in Dollar General and was like, so I don't know if it's my place, but I think your child is my grandson's dad. And just like, on Christmas Eve. So it was just crazy.

[Katherine]

That's a lot.

[Phil]

And then I have, obviously now, how old is the boy?

[James]

He's like seven.

[Katherine]

Yeah. So this will be something for him to process, too, like when and if it comes out.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes. I think be very thoughtful. Don't have unnecessary interactions with the child until you know for sure what the situation is. And start with the grandmother, and then in November, when the mother comes out, then you can have a conversation with her, too. And then just take steps in the direction of finding out for sure. But don't do anything rash right now.

[James]

And then I also have a boyfriend.

[Chelsea Handler]

Another question.

[James]

This is a doubleheader that caused some tension at the time. We've obviously built on our relationship, so I think that would be fine if it came down to it. But that's just a whole nother thing, because it's like.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, but again, I think you're getting ahead of yourself. I think you just take it one step at a time. You don't have to solve all of the problems on one day, you know?

[James]

Right. That's my problem.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. So just don't overwhelm yourself. You know, you're dealing with. So just take it. The first step is you're gonna have a conversation with the grandmother.

[Katherine]

And I would also say, check out our episode we did with Karamo Brown, because he has a really similar story. Like, he had sex with a woman once and, you know, found out way later that he had a child with her. And now they have a wonderful relationship. So check that episode out.

[James]

Awesome. Will do.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, well, thanks for calling in.

[Katherine]

Thanks, James.

[Phil]

Good luck.

[James]

Yeah, absolutely. And just lastly, anyone who's on Medicaid, there's a lot going on right now, and when this happened, I didn't realize that I was thrown off of it. So anyone who's on it, anything can happen anytime. And make sure that you're keeping up with your deadlines and stuff like that, because they're trying to trick people left and right.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah.

[James]

Just to throw that out there, because that's some scary stuff.

[Katherine]

Yeah, That's a really good reminder. I mean, I know any of us can have unexpected medical bills crop up. So if anyone wants to pitch in and help with James's medical bills, I will put a link in the description Dear Chelsea, listeners are always so amazing at helping folks out. And it's a pretty small amount, so I'm sure we can make a good dent in that.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, thanks, James.

[Katherine]

Thank you.

[Phil]

Thank you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Have a great day.

[James]

It's so nice to meet you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Nice to meet you guys.

[Katherine]

Follow up with us.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yes.

[Eric Bana]

Oh, God.

[Katherine]

I know. It's a complicated situation.

[Phil]

He needs to go to Barcelona.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, he needs to go to Barcelona. Other family to Barcelona.

[Phil]

Oh, man.

[Chelsea Handler]

I know. Can you imagine if he found out that we had a baby together? Can you imagine? What would you do? Well, I mean. And you wouldn't have even remembered how it happened.

[Eric Bana]

That would have been so much.

[Phil]

What would have been so quick?

[Chelsea Handler]

That would have been such a scrub. No, you would have been like. I mean, no, not so quick. You just. I mean. Oh, it's a lot to deal with. It is a lot unexpected things in life. It's a lot to deal with.

[Phil]

No, that's a lot.

[Katherine]

It's a lot.

[Phil]

That is a lot.

[Katherine]

Now, I mean, but as a dad, you know, obviously it's a different situation, but as a dad, I mean, I would assume that you would encourage him to, like, try to develop a relationship with this kid. Right?

[Chelsea Handler]

But once you know for sure, you don't. Just what someone says at face value, like, who knows in the dollar general.

[Phil]

And you know what the hard thing also is? Like, I didn't want to ask James this, but it was like, how would he feel? Would he feel better or worse if he found out tomorrow that the kid wasn't his?

[Chelsea Handler]

That was a good question. Why didn't you ask it? Well.

[Phil]

Cause you guys were talking and so I didn't want to interrupt.

[Chelsea Handler]

I was talking on my podcast. I'm so, so, you know, like, you know what? I did take a pain pill today for my foot because I wanted to be coherent for this interview. I wish I had taken it now. I really do.

[Phil]

I don't know. I mean, would he be relieved or would he be devastated? I mean, for how many years now has he thought that this child is his?

[Chelsea Handler]

Just recently, it's only really raised, so.

[Phil]

It'S not like he's been living with this for years.

[Chelsea Handler]

The Dollar General Store interaction. Do we have an easier question for Eric? Do you want me to do, like a setup?

[Phil]

You got something to do with motorcycles or football?

[Chelsea Handler]

Do you have a Lego set of motorcycles that he can put? A lot of grown men are into Legos now. Do you know that? That's a thing?

[Katherine]

My sister in law. My sister in law's Into Legos. She's like, that's my relaxing thing.

[Eric Bana]

I put together Lego sets, but are these more intricate? Crazy.

[Katherine]

I think they're cute. And like there's, you know, you can do like a little flower pot or like different fun, cute things or like the set of Harry Potter.

[Phil]

Recently at a Formula one race, the trophies were sponsored by leggers. They got their podium trophies in Lego. Oh, I'm not sure that goes in the cabinet with all. And what happens if you drop it? Like, does someone come around?

[Chelsea Handler]

And I think they're different Legos now. Like, they stick together. It's not like it's a. I think.

[Phil]

One of these fell apart.

[Chelsea Handler]

I went to my first Formula one race at Barcelona a couple months ago.

[Phil]

Did you love it? Yeah, it's a very particular thing.

[Chelsea Handler]

I felt watching those guys get stuffed into those cars with that dry ice being blown in their faces to cool them down made me feel. And I just can't believe that those guys are in the car for two and a half hours. I didn't know it was that long. So it was pretty intense. And it's definitely athletic.

[Phil]

Yeah. And it's a different. It's also like, I love it, but there is a point where I do prefer watching it at home. Like, I do love being at the track sometimes, but for the race, I do actually really like watching it, you know, at home with all the commentary and stuff. But no, it's a pretty incredible environment. I was recently on a trip around Europe with a buddy of mine for a few weeks on motorcycles and we took in some motor racing and went to the Austrian Formula one race, which is great to compare it to. Cause we have Melbourne Formula one, which is like five minutes from home. And it was great to compare the differences. But yeah, it's a whole other world.

[Chelsea Handler]

You've never driven in one of those races?

[Phil]

Not a Formula one car, no. But I've done a lot of racing, like GT3.

[Chelsea Handler]

You don't have to be defensive about it.

[Phil]

No, I wasn't being small dicked about it at all. I was just, you know, trying to claim my bonafides.

[Chelsea Handler]

There was a long conversation. Brad Pitt was recently on Dax's podcast and they were talking about Formula one for almost two hours. And I texted Dax and I was, I was like, I can't believe you think people wanna listen to this shit.

[Katherine]

People are so into it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Like, I just can't believe people love Formula one. Like, they love it. And the reason I went in Barcelona is cause I was performing, I was doing a Show and my cousins wanted to go. She's like, come on, let's go. You'll get the VIP treatment. And I was like, okay, we'll go. And then they put me on the pad or like the pit or the. What's it called?

[Phil]

No, I think I saw a photo. Which team were you with? You were in the Williams.

[Chelsea Handler]

They both lost that day, of course. You know, I mean, did you have.

[Phil]

The headphones on and were able to listen to all the.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I mean, I did for a while. But you know what the best part was? The catering. I mean, I've been to a lot of vip. Like Wimbledon, you know, where you go to these suites.

[Phil]

Yeah. You're at Wimbledon last week as well.

[Eric Bana]

She's been everywhere.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, I get around. I was in Glastonbury and then I went to Wimbledon, and that's what happened with my foot.

[Phil]

What's next? What major event are you ticking off next? Have you done the Australian Open?

[Chelsea Handler]

I'm gonna do the Australian Open. Do you go?

[Phil]

Yeah, it's the best.

[Chelsea Handler]

I fucking love tennis. I was just watching Wimbledon this morning before I came over here.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

I think Sinner Alcaraz just won and Sinner's playing Djokovic, I think. Is he beating him?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Really?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

How do you feel about that?

[Phil]

I have a lot of respect for. I mean, I've seen so many of his finals in Melbourne. Like, he's just a freak. I mean. Yeah, I mean, I love Sinner as well. Like, it's. It's. It's handing over of the guard, isn't it? Right. I just hope there's going to be a third Alcarez Sin and we need someone else.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, we need a third one. Alcaraz is so much fun to watch. Like, I love him. You know what I mean? Sinner is an amazing player, but it's less fun to watch that.

[Phil]

You know, I used to be a downhill sk.

[Chelsea Handler]

I know you had to choose between skiing and tennis, just like I had to choose. And I chose skiing.

[Phil]

You chose podcast.

[Chelsea Handler]

I chose a podcast, yeah.

[Katherine]

Yeah. Well, Kate is deciding about whether to stay with her long time. Well, husband, I guess, but.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, well, this is. This will be something. This will be something that Rebecca could relate to.

[Katherine]

So Kate is 36, and she says, dear Chelsea, I've been married for almost eight years, together with this man for almost 20 years now. Now, recently, some things have come up that I think I've always known deep down, but never wanted to fully admit. My husband is so smart and talented in so many ways, but has never reached his full potential. He's always bounced between dead end jobs and unemployment. He drained our savings training to be a pilot, but that never went anywhere. In the meantime, I've worked my ass off to be where I'm at in a great career and I've always been the main one supporting our household. It's exhausting. He always had excuses as to why he didn't get promoted or doesn't get better jobs. I always believed him and have been rooting for him since day one, thinking this next job will be it, it'll be the one to lead to a good career. But it never happens and I'm finally realizing it's him. He's the problem. He has no motivation and shows zero initiative. That's why I'm writing after all my quote nagging. He recently admitted that he's content with low level jobs forever. He doesn't need anything more to make him happy or fulfilled. I accept him for who he is, but I've always wanted more for myself and the resentment is really starting to build now. My question is, do I stay with him out of love and accept that I'll never reach my financial goals because he's holding us back? Or is it time I let him go and accept that I may just be alone forever? I'm so torn and don't want to end up regretting my decision years down the line. Thank you, Kate.

[Chelsea Handler]

Jesus. This is another.

[Katherine]

And she's a mover and a shaker.

[Chelsea Handler]

Thank you for bringing the drama, Eric.

[Katherine]

She's great.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, Kate, this is Eric Banner.

[Eric Bana]

Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

He's here to help you today. Hi. Wow, that was a heavy letter. That's heavy thinking.

[Kate]

Yeah, it's been weighing on me.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, it sounds like it. It sounds like it. I would say to you, if you're talking about resentment, that really doesn't go away. You know, if you're gonna accept somebody for who they are, that's one thing. But he was kind of falsely advertising who he really is, who he really was to a degree. So that adds another layer of resentment. And I would say I wouldn't look at this decision as, as like a binary choice, like, okay, I'm staying or going. It's actually, now that you've written all of this, you've said it out loud, you're calling in, you're acknowledging all these feelings. It's kind of like, okay, well, where does this new information take you now that you know he's content living like that? I don't want you to look at it. Like, what if I'm alone forever? Don't look at anything like that. Like, that's not the option. It's not him or you're alone forever. You could meet somebody else down the road. You could meet somebody in 2,000 months. You could meet somebody in two years. You never know who you're going to meet. I doubt you're going to be alone. Most people aren't. Just by everything that you're saying, it sounds like you're getting ready to make a move.

[Kate]

I'm definitely leaning on that side of. I think that's where my head is at. I think. I just. I don't know. I. I just love having, like, an outside perspective of, like, am I making the right choice? Am. I don't know, just any sort of validation that I'm not screwing this up by leaving. It's just a lot of mixed emotions. So any. I'm just trying to talk to a therapist. I'm trying to talk to all my friends. I'm trying to talk to family, outside perspectives is, you know, I'm just trying to not make, like, a rash move immediately and just, like.

[Chelsea Handler]

Right. I think that's smart. I don't think it should be a rash move, but I think you should acknowledge everything that you're feeling. Like if you have a lot of resentment, that's not necessarily just gonna disappear. Being ambitious and wanting more for yourself is not selfish. That's the type of person you are. And acknowledging that is really important as a woman. It's really important also to acknowledge that and not to be held back by this idea of loyalty or love. He'll be okay, too. Everyone survives. People get divorced all the time. If that's the road that you go down, you really just also have to honor where you see yourself in your life. Take the time that is necessary to make a deep decision like this and spend time alone with yourself, with your thoughts. Thoughts with a therapist, and really contemplate how you see your future moving forward without him. If that's, you know, one option and how it would look with him.

[Kate]

Yeah. And I think that's. Yeah. Kind of what I've been talking to with my therapist is just, like, what my values are. And I feel like we're just kind of growing apart. And, like, my values and his values maybe don't align at this point. Like, maybe they did 10 years ago. But at this point, I feel like I'm trying to continue to grow myself and, like, improve myself. And I just don't think that he cares to do that. And so, yeah, if those values don't.

[Chelsea Handler]

Align, like, it's not even values, it's just kind of like values. Almost sounds like you're judging him for. It's you. It's what you want, your desires, like you're desiring a different type of life. It's not like he's a bad guy and you're a good person. It's not like that. It's just that you kind of seem like you're on two different trajectories. He's content with where he is and you're not.

[Phil]

So it's gonna also be really, really tough. Cause you guys obviously met really young. You've been together for a long time.

[Kate]

So we did since like 1920.

[Phil]

Yeah. So in a lot of ways, you didn't get to see your fully formed partner until you were well and truly, truly married. So, like, if you had a met in your mid-20s, it's maybe a little different. You may have identified things in your husband that you can now that would have been less negotiable up until now. I'm really sorry you're in this position. There's a naive part of me that goes, oh, he sounds like a really. I don't want to say low maintenance husband, but is he happy with. I know so many men who are so, so driven and have achieved so much, and they were so miserable and bitter. And then I hear this story, I'm like, oh, this guy doesn't have as much as a lot of people, but is he truly happy or. I don't know enough about him to be able to. To make, you know, that sort of a. Sort of a call. But there's a side of me that goes, that's kind of a really nice thing as well, that someone who's not crazily driven still really happy with their lot in life. And he probably. I don't know, I'm hoping he adores you. So there's that side, obviously. But I can hear in your voice, maybe that's not fully the case. It's a real tough one. But you could also end up with someone who's all the things you want, who's incredibly driven, who's maybe never home, and he's just miserable all the time. I mean, that's also possible, right? Not discounting any of the way you're feeling, as Chelsea said.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. I just think it's really important as women, first and foremost, to really honor the thoughts and feelings you have around a relationship and not stay there for someone else. You know what I mean? You really have to look out for yourself because no one else is going to look out for you but you. Like, no one is gonna make the best decisions for yourself. And whatever your decision ends up being is gonna be the right one anyway. You know, you're gonna make a left or you're gonna make a right and you're gonna double down in that direction. And if you stay, you're gonna double down on your marriage. And marriage and good things can come from that too. It's kind of like almost like you have to become non emotional about it, you know?

[Kate]

Yeah, that's the hard part because. Yeah, I completely agree with. Yeah, he's such a great person. And like, that's why I look at my life. Like, will I meet anybody that's so low maintenance as him? He's like the most low maintenance person ever. But yeah, like the same thing you're saying too, Chelsea. Like, I. I'm a woman and I feel like I need to look out for myself and like my desire. I don't know, it's just. It's such a hard place to be in.

[Chelsea Handler]

So there's no rush at all. You know, it's good to just really, like, think. I mean, the only bad decisions are the really impulsive ones. So as long as you're putting a lot of thought into this, you're gonna come out and make the right decision.

[Kate]

I hope so.

[Katherine]

One thing that might help as you're sort of making this decision is would.

[Chelsea Handler]

It help to have sex with Eric Bana? Would that help in making this decision?

[Katherine]

She's on offer.

[Phil]

Really not.

[Chelsea Handler]

Because we could do this right now. That may help. Okay. Yeah, if that would. Would you be willing to do that if you thought it would help Eric? He acts like this, but, you know.

[Phil]

Oh dear, I'm sorry.

[Chelsea Handler]

He acts shy and he's scared.

[Phil]

She's in her car and like she's sharing her life with you and you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Just thinking out loud, that's. I mean, this is a good solution, actually. I mean, this wasn't the intention of this.

[Kate]

Look, here we are.

[Chelsea Handler]

Now out here we are.

[Katherine]

But as you're sort of like dealing with these two, like very different decisions, one thing you can do is pretend like you've made a decision one way and sit with it for a couple of days and feel how it feels, and then take a couple of days where you've quote, unquote, made the other decision and like, see which one feels good, which one feels like a relief to you.

[Kate]

Yeah, yeah, I'VE kind of been doing that over the last couple months.

[Chelsea Handler]

Months.

[Kate]

And I think I keep going back to leaving. And I think that's my answer. I just, I don't know, trying to make sure that's the right answer. And so I appreciate all of the advice from everybody.

[Chelsea Handler]

Keep us posted when you do make a decision. I'd like to know what happens. And Eric wants a follow up too. He wants to know what happens to.

[Kate]

All of our number.

[Phil]

I want to know. I want to know what happens.

[Chelsea Handler]

I've already tried to. To have sex with him. It's not gonna work. He's actually married, happily so. But, you know, listen, I think all of these conversations, like, I think a lot of women are going through this right now. You're not alone in this. Like, there's a lot of women of our age that are happening. I mean, I'm sure you're younger than me, but like, in the world today, realizing, like, maybe we don't need this partner. Maybe. I certainly don't need a partner for what, you know, you better bring a lot to the table. So, like, I can totally relate to why you would be feeling this way. Way. And that so many women are feeling this way.

[Phil]

Do you have children together?

[Kate]

No. Thank God. That's the one thing I don't have to worry about. I mean, we have a lot of animals, but no children, so.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, well, I would say that's your answer right there. I would say you can get out free without children, then that.

[Kate]

Then get the hell out.

[Chelsea Handler]

Then get out. I don't mean to be harsh about it, but that's how I feel.

[Kate]

No, but I appreciate the harshness because I'm kind of a harsh person too. But with him, I've just been taking care of him for our whole entire lives. And so I feel like he's the one person that I'm not harsh with. And maybe I need to start. I need to do that. I don't know.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Katherine]

All right. Kate, will you follow up with us?

[Kate]

I will, absolutely. Thanks for coming. I will let you guys know.

[Chelsea Handler]

Thank you.

[Phil]

Good luck, Kate.

[Kate]

Thank you guys so much. I appreciate it.

[Katherine]

Chelsea, I think you bring up a really good point. And I mentioned this to her when we chatted in our pre interview. I feel like for me right now, there's a lot of women around who are around me who are leaving a marriage, not because there was some big chaotic breakup or cheating or whatever. It's just because, like, I think there's something better or this doesn't feel like the Right fit or we've grown apart.

[Chelsea Handler]

And that's not a bad. Like, that's not the biggest failure in the world when something doesn't work out. Like, I think that's what women are coming to grips with, that it's not the end of your world if you break up, if your marriage breaks up. Like, the dissolution of a marriage doesn't mean, like, you can have a new beginning. And like. And, you know, men seem to have Latin nine lives. Men get married three or four times and you're like, oh, women just aren't as codependent. And women are like, you know, they're going through something. I mean, I feel like when you have to make a really hard decision, Eric, is there a decision you can think of that you really had to struggle with? Cause I always just think, make a decision in either direction and then just go with that.

[Phil]

I do sit on them for quite a long time. Like.

[Chelsea Handler]

Like indecisive?

[Phil]

No, no, not indecisive. I don't like to feel pressured into making a quick decision, you know, so I'm comfortable sitting on it for quite a while. But it's. And it sounds like I could just hear it in her voice. She's lost some respect for him. It's hard to move past that, isn't it? Yeah, I think so, once you get to that point.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. Because it all sounds like a great idea when you're starting out. But you have to grow and evolve together. And taking care of someone is not sexual. That's not hot. No one gets turned on by that. They think they are gonna like that. But there is some sort of awakening or uprising happening with women right now.

[Phil]

And you are helping forge that.

[Chelsea Handler]

I am. I've been helping forge it before I was even here. Well, thank you. I couldn't tell if you were serious or not.

[Phil]

No, I'm deadly serious.

[Chelsea Handler]

I appreciate that.

[Phil]

I'm deadly serious.

[Chelsea Handler]

Thank you.

[Phil]

Yeah, I mean, you've probably helped a lot of people really, really move on and, like, empower them.

[Chelsea Handler]

But I'm not like a proponent of, like, I don't wanna be a relationship wrecker. Like, get away from him. Like, I'm not anti man. I just think that I'm pro woman. You know what I mean?

[Phil]

And you're just saying it's not the end of the world. Like, don't look at yourself as a failure if a relationship doesn't work. Cause I think a lot of people do have that baggage associated with it. Like, how is this gonna. Am I a failure if this fails? Like, how does this reflect on me as a person?

[Chelsea Handler]

Right, right, right.

[Phil]

It's not the end of the world.

[Chelsea Handler]

No. And you survive everything. Even if someone like the worst things that could happen in your life, you are survivable. So once you have enough life experience, you realize, oh, I'm not gonna be broken. You know what I mean? Somebody doesn't have another person, doesn't necessarily have the power to break you. That's kind of on you.

[Phil]

Yeah, it's cool. It's a cool message.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, we're gonna wrap up. We'll be right back. I'm gonna give Eric a quick bath, and then we're gonna be right back to wrap up this podcast. Okay.

[Eric Bana]

The Bad guys are back. And they've brought back up. I'm talking about DreamWorks Animation's the Bad Guys 2.

[Chelsea Handler]

And it is going to be the baddest comedy of the summer. I mean, how could it not? The all star cast is back for round two. Sam Rockwell, Marc Maron, Craig Robinson, Anthony.

[Eric Bana]

Ramos and Awkwafina make up the world's.

[Chelsea Handler]

Most lovable crew of criminals who are trying and hilariously failing to stay on the straight and narrow.

[Eric Bana]

And that's when a new crew shows up.

[Chelsea Handler]

The Bad Girls, played by favorites like Danielle Brooks and Natasha Lyonne.

[Eric Bana]

And they are hilarious.

[Chelsea Handler]

They pull the Bad guys into a globe trotting heist that's bigger and badder than anything they've ever faced. I mean, with so much action and comedy, plus this ridiculously talented cast, The Bad Guys 2 is the kind of movie that you just have to see in theaters. Get Tickets now for DreamWorks animations. The Bad Guys 2, in theaters August 1st. Rated PG. I want to talk about something deeply personal.

[Eric Bana]

My feet.

[Chelsea Handler]

Are you excited yet? I've been wearing ultra running shoes lately and honestly, life changing. They're now my go to for everything from runs to hikes to dog walks to airport sprints, you name it.

[Eric Bana]

They've got extra room up front so.

[Chelsea Handler]

Your toes can actually spread out and move the way that they're supposed to, which is way better than most running shoes that cram my toes together. Plus, the lower heel drop means your stride feels more natural. It's like my body finally went, oh, this is how we're supposed to move.

[Eric Bana]

They are crazy comfortable.

[Chelsea Handler]

And yes, they help me chase that runner's high. You know, mama loves her dopamine and feeling strong and actually wanting to work out. So if you're getting into running, getting back into it or just want healthier feet so you can get on a feed finder. Altra is where it's at. Find them at ultrarunning.com and use code Chelsea for 10% off your order. That's a L T-R-A running dot com. Stay out there.

[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

As good as it looks?

[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

And we're back with Eric Bana.

[Phil]

I'm so much cleaner now.

[Chelsea Handler]

Eric Bana, one of my favorite people. Love him so much. Love you so much. And the new show is called Untamed. It's now streaming on Netflix. Netflix. So if you want to watch some Eric Bana porn, that's where you should watch it.

[Phil]

Six whole hours of it.

[Chelsea Handler]

Six hours of Eric Bana. You know, you know, you don't come at us all the time, so when we get you, we have to, we have to watch it.

[Phil]

Limited supply.

[Eric Bana]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

You're not oversaturating yourself. So, no, it's a limited supply and we're lucky to have it.

[Phil]

Get it before the wi fi drops out, I say, you know, like, that's right. Limited supplies.

[Chelsea Handler]

I also want to say one thing about Australians before you go I have a lot of Australians in my life, and they.

[Phil]

Well, I don't have to rub it in. I thought, well, I mean, I feel that special.

[Chelsea Handler]

Most of them are Sydney, but they always think they're right about everything.

[Phil]

Really?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Phil]

That's a Sydney thing, darling.

[Eric Bana]

Is it?

[Chelsea Handler]

Is it? Because that's what my next question was going to be.

[Phil]

More people from Melbourne. Bit more. Bit more, yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Explaining to me, like, I was listening to a podcast with my friend. She's Australia. And while we were listening to the podcast, she was explaining the podcast to me. I'm like, I can't fucking hear anything.

[Phil]

How is it? It's just because you always hang out in Sydney. How is it you don't have many Melbourne friends? You have more Sydney?

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't know, because I think Melbourne people stay in Australia and Sydney, people move to the States.

[Phil]

Okay, okay.

[Chelsea Handler]

But, yeah, Sydney is my city there. I would love to live in Australia one day. I mean, that's really just like kind of a very idyllic lifestyle.

[Phil]

It is a great place. But, hey, you got it pretty good here. You got your little place up in Whistler there. You just get up there with your dogs and.

[Chelsea Handler]

And my bear. Your bear and my bear that I'm gonna find in a dog stake out.

[Katherine]

On your front porch?

[Chelsea Handler]

I don't think so. I'm not that stupid.

[Phil]

I'm hearing three properties, none of them in Australia. That's what I'm hearing.

[Chelsea Handler]

That's what you are hearing.

[Katherine]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, that's what you're hearing. No miracle ear for you. You've got this. Okay, Eric, thank you so much.

[Phil]

It's so awesome to see you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Thanks for having me, as always, love.

[Phil]

Oh, God.

[Eric Bana]

Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas. There are remaining dates for this year. Summertime is coming, and I will be in Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on August 30th. And then November 1st and 29th. November 1st and November 29th, I will be in Las Vegas at the Cosmos, performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea. It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, thank you.

[Katherine]

Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write in to dearchelsea podcastmail.com find full video episodes of Dear Chelsea on YouTube by searching earchelseapod. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brad Dickert, executive producer Kathryn Law. And be sure to check out our merch@chelsea handler.com.

[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

This time the Bad Guys are trying and failing to go good, but they.

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Eric Bana]

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[Katherine]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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