BONUS Onyx Storm Tour Denver Recap: Rebecca Yarros’ Biggest Q&A Reveals

Summary

Dear Fantasy Reader Podcast: BONUS Onyx Storm Tour Denver Recap: Rebecca Yarros’ Biggest Q&A Reveals

In this engaging episode of Dear Fantasy Reader, hosts Hannah, Karly, and Kinsey share their exhilarating experience attending Rebecca Yarros' Onyx Storm book tour in Denver. The episode provides a comprehensive recap of the event, delves into the highlights of Yarros' Q&A session, and explores various theories and insights gleaned from the author herself. Whether you're a seasoned Empyrean series fan or new to the world of Romantasy, this summary captures the essence of the episode, offering a deep dive into the latest developments and fan theories surrounding Onyx Storm.

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1. Attending the Onyx Storm Tour in Denver

First-Time Reunion and Fan Camaraderie (00:17 - 02:48)

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic recount of the hosts' first-time reunion at the Onyx Storm tour in Denver. Karly shares, “[02:12] It was so much fun. I can't believe we all finally got to hang out for a weekend,” highlighting the joy of meeting in person after connecting online. The trio spent two days immersed in fangirling over Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm, with their time punctuated by food stops and creative activities.

Friendship Bracelets and Fan Interactions (02:24 - 04:02)

Kinsey reminisces about the camaraderie among fans, stating at [02:24], “We made a bunch of friendship bracelets to hand out to everybody. That was a great time.” The event was a hub for Empyrean enthusiasts, including cosplayers and dedicated readers. Hannah adds, “[03:33] There were also service dragons,” referring to cosplayers dressed as dragons with wings, enhancing the event's immersive atmosphere.

Sold-Out Event Dynamics (04:02 - 07:12)

The hosts describe the overwhelming turnout, with lines encircling the venue ([04:02]). Despite arriving early, the event sold out quickly, leading to a bustling environment where fans continued to mingle long after the official program ended. Hannah recounts a poignant moment at [05:04], “Which was still really cool because the people outside were still like taking photos together and trading bracelets,” emphasizing the community spirit that permeated the event.

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2. Highlights from Rebecca Yarros' Q&A Session

Spoiler-Rich Insights and Book Preparations (07:12 - 10:14)

Rebecca Yarros, aware that Denver is her home state, took a more spoiler-friendly approach during the Denver stop. Carly at [08:53] shares, “Rebecca responds, telling us to all reread the last hundred pages of Onyx Storm,” urging fans to revisit critical sections for deeper understanding and upcoming developments in Book 4. This directive sets the stage for unraveling intricate plot points and foreshadowing future events.

Deep Dive into Specific Q&As (10:14 - 26:24)

The bulk of the episode focuses on dissecting key questions posed to Yarros, each shedding light on pivotal aspects of the Onyx Storm narrative.

• Jack Barlow and Feather Tales Mystery ([11:04] Carly)
  When asked about Jack Barlow's knowledge of Feather Tales, Rebecca replied, “Everyone knew that the Feather Tales existed. They just didn't know they were children because that's what was protected by the Empyrean.” This cryptic answer fuels theories about Jack's background and his connections within the Empyrean hierarchy. Karly builds on this by positing, “[12:21] I think Jack was brought back from the Isles,” suggesting a deeper lineage or hidden past.

• Gifts from Zenaal ([13:38] Carly)
  Yarros revealed that each gift from Zenaal is uniquely chosen, hinting at significant symbolism and future plot developments. Kinsey explains, “[14:21] I know a really popular theory going around is that the compass will end up leading Violet to Zaden,” indicating that these gifts may serve as narrative devices steering characters towards crucial revelations.

• Missing Characters and Power Struggles ([15:38] Kinsey)
  A question about a missing member led Yarros to respond, “Pay attention to who’s missing at the end. Pay attention to someone who feels like whatever they've been given is not enough.” This response has fans debating whether the missing character is Garak, Arryk, or another pivotal figure, deepening the mystery surrounding upcoming conflicts in the series.

• Dragon-Rider Bonds and Signet Capacities ([21:08] Kinsey)
  Yarros elaborated on the limitations and future potential of Violet’s and Zaden’s signets. She stated, “Violet's second signet will evolve, that she is only utilizing it at 10% capacity in Onyx Storm,” revealing that Violet's abilities are far from fully realized and hinting at significant character growth in subsequent books. Similarly, Zaden’s signet is at 50% capacity, suggesting his powers will expand, adding layers to his character’s complexity and role in the story.

• Chapter Editing Choices ([22:03] Hannah)
  The hosts discuss Yarros’ decision to cut a chapter from Onyx Storm that originally featured the entire squad seeking Papa Sorrengeill's research. Instead, the focus shifted solely to Dane, enhancing his character arc. Kinsey remarks, “[22:40] I loved that she decided to make it all about Dane,” appreciating the streamlined character development and increased narrative focus on Dane’s redemption.

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3. Easter Eggs, Theories, and Future World-Building

Easter Eggs and Pirates Potential ([33:03] Kinsey)
Yarros hinted at hidden elements like pirates and the Kraken, suggesting potential future storylines or expansions within the Yar verse. Carly expresses excitement, “[33:39] I was so excited about this because I love pirates,” while Kinsey connects this to existing lore, “...she had them specifically mention that they were afraid of the water, so I feel like that could kind of tie into the Kraken a little bit.”

Universe Expansion and Special Editions ([35:27] Kinsey)
The discussion shifts to Yarros’ plans for possible special editions and bonus chapters. Yarros indicated a willingness to explore additional content, such as bonus chapters about pivotal moments like Zaden discovering Violet’s interrogation. Carly passionately states, “[37:29] But clarified a difference between wanting to write it and going to write it,” underscoring fans' desire for more in-depth explorations of the characters' experiences.

Taylor Swift Playlist Alignment ([41:05] Hannah)
A unique highlight involves Yarros sharing her Taylor Swift playlist tailored to Book 4’s themes. Hannah enthuses, “[42:12] Down Bad,” which Carly confirms, “[44:35] I think that really fits with Violet's state of mind at the end of Onyx Storm.” This creative alignment adds a contemporary cultural layer to the Empyrean series, allowing fans to connect with the characters’ emotions through music.

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4. Personal Touches and Community Building

Friendship Bracelets and Host Interactions ([47:17] Hannah)
The hosts share their own experiences creating and exchanging friendship bracelets, symbolizing their bond and shared love for the series. Kinsey humorously notes, “[48:22] I have more. I took him off because I moved my arms too much, and I would. That'd be too jingly,” adding a lighthearted end to their recap.

Community Engagement and Future Episodes (46:54 - 48:56)
Hannah invites listeners to engage further by subscribing to upcoming episodes, including their next Chapters by Chapters deep dive of Onyx Storm. She encourages fans to share their theories and join their Discord group, fostering a vibrant community of Empyrean enthusiasts.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Hannah ([00:50]): “Prepare to face this storm.”
• Carly ([08:53]): “I know, I'm sorry, but a lot happens in there.”
• Carly ([27:43]): “[...] Zaden's second signant, she said, is only at 50% capacity.”
• Kinsey ([15:38]): “Pay attention to who’s missing at the end.”
• Hannah ([24:45]): “What else does he have to hide?”
• Carly ([44:35]): “Down Bad” fits with Violet's state of mind.”

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Conclusion

This episode of Dear Fantasy Reader offers an immersive recap of the Denver Onyx Storm Tour, enriched by firsthand accounts of the event's vibrant community and behind-the-scenes insights from Rebecca Yarros' Q&A session. The hosts adeptly dissect Yarros' answers, weaving them into broader theories and future expectations for the Empyrean series. From signet capacities and hidden agendas to the tantalizing hints of pirates and mythological creatures, this episode serves as a treasure trove for fans eager to delve deeper into the intricate world Yarros has crafted. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes, where the hosts will continue their Chapters by Chapters exploration of Onyx Storm, unraveling more secrets and fostering the ever-growing Empyrean fan community.

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Transcript

[Kinsey]

Foreign.

[Hannah]

Dearest Fantasy Readers, welcome to the Dear Fantasy Reader Podcast where we dive deep through the Empyrean series currently covering Onyx Storm. I'm Hannah.

[Kinsey]

I'm Kinsey.

[Carly]

And I'm Carly.

[Hannah]

Today we are going to talk about our experience seeing Rebecca Yarros on the Onyx Storm tour in Denver this past weekend and a few of the biggest.

[Carly]

Q and A responses, quick content warning and spoiler alert. We will be covering anything and everything Empyrean series to this date and any content Rebecca Yarrows has given us. So if you haven't read 4th Wing, Iron Flame and Onyx Storm in its entirety, go to do that and we will be here waiting for you when you're done.

[Kinsey]

Also, due to the nature of these books, this podcast is rated R in content and in language.

[Hannah]

As Rebecca Yarros says, readers who may be sensitive to these elements, please take note and prepare to face this storm. If you didn't already know, Rebecca just wrapped up her Onyx Storm book tour and it was basically a huge Q and A where some questions are from the hosts and some are from the audience. We went to the very last stop on the tour. So while Rebecca was super avoidant of Onyx Storm spoilers for the majority of the other stops, she did say that since Colorado is her home state and the last stop, there were going to be spoilers and boy did she give us some gold with her answers. Before we jump into that, we are going to briefly talk about what it was like to attend the tour and then we will get to our favorite questions and answers.

[Carly]

And this was the first time all three of us finally united in the same spot at the same time and.

[Hannah]

We got to meet in person. Yes.

[Carly]

And it was so much fun. I can't believe we all finally got to hang out for a weekend. And it was. I mean there were a few highlights but this was definitely top of the list of getting to all hang out and just Fangirl over 4th wing and Empyrean and Rebecca Yarros and Rebecca Yarros for two days straight with nothing in our way other than some food stops.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I would say it was a whirlwind, but Storm seems more hitting.

[Kinsey]

Lots of cuddling. Yes.

[Carly]

Yep, yep.

[Kinsey]

It was so fun to have you guys in Colorado. I got to drive everybody around but I love too. Like the night before we made a bunch of friendship bracelets to hand out to everybody. That was a great time and just getting to meet not only you guys but other Empyrean fans. So many Friends that I've made online. I finally got to meet them in person, including a few of our listeners, which was really, really cool experience.

[Hannah]

Really cool.

[Kinsey]

Trading some bracelets with them, the cosplayers. Oh, my gosh, they were out of this world. Like, it was incredible.

[Hannah]

Absolutely.

[Carly]

It really was. I felt like getting to see all of these women in the same space who love the same thing, supporting each other, hyping each other up, showing each other so much love. It was such an amazing experience to get to be in that environment. Just I wouldn't have traded it for anything.

[Hannah]

It was a very adjacent to eras tour vibes, very much so. That sort of culture. Which friendship bracelets. Am I right?

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I have to point out before I do come back and tell you what my friendship bracelets say, because. But the chocolate cake cosplayer, it was pretty creative.

[Carly]

That was top tier.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah. There were also service dogs who. What did they say?

[Carly]

Service dragons.

[Hannah]

Service dragons.

[Kinsey]

And they had wings.

[Carly]

Yep.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God, it was so cute.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, My friend. Yeah, my friend dressed up as Imogen, and I think she was the only Imogen I've seen at any of these events. So that was really cool.

[Hannah]

The pink hair. Oh. Killed it.

[Carly]

She was Imogen. It was amazing. And, yeah, that was so much fun.

[Kinsey]

It was so cool. And then the fact that the event was completely sold out. Like, we showed up, like, almost two hours before the event, two and a half hours before the event started, and the line already went around the block. Like, it fully encircled the entire building. It was insane. Like, I knew that the event was sold out, but even the staff were like, we weren't expecting it to be this chaotic. And we're like, well, I don't know who didn't.

[Hannah]

Who you thought was showing up. Showing up, but we were coming.

[Kinsey]

There was no way we were not gonna see Rebecca Yarros.

[Hannah]

When I was walking to meet you in line, I overheard someone walk up to, like, the booth area at the very front, and they looked at the line and they were like, oh, it says sold out. I thought that you could show up and get tickets today. And I was like, oh, no.

[Carly]

How hurting.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Carly]

I would be so sad if that was, like, the communication I had received and showed up and couldn't go.

[Kinsey]

But, I mean, like, what venue does sell tickets the day of if an event is sold out? Like, usually sold out means sold out.

[Hannah]

They must. Well, she. It seemed like that was the moment they realized it was sold out because it said it on the sign. So I'm not sure where they got their information. But I was like, oh my heart, that sucks.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Which was still really cool because the people outside were still like taking photos together and trading bracelets. But of course if you think you're gonna get to see Rebecca Yarrow speak, like that's. Yeah.

[Kinsey]

I mean the event started at like 2:30, but we didn't even leave until like 7:00 at night just because everyone was just hanging out after the event. Like it was just a big hangout of all of your like online book friends. And we, we got dinner after, got dessert. It was just really cool.

[Hannah]

It was really cool. Well, and especially I loved how the, the venue kind of pulled things together. So when we go in, you're handed your signed book in a little bag that says I earned a dragon at best Gaia, which is so cute. And that's had included a signed book from Rebecca, which is really, really cool. Probably one of my favorite parts. They also had little photo booths upstairs. They had this massive. It was a photo booth, but it was Onyx Storm. There was book cover, which is really cool. And then they had a merch line which don't even get Kenzie started because she spent all of her time and half of mine in the merch line to get signed copies of Rebecca's other books. But unfortunately I never made it to.

[Kinsey]

The front and I was in line for an hour and a half. Yay.

[Hannah]

The show started, which is really cool, I will say about the Q and A. I really enjoyed it. It makes such a difference when the interviewers themselves are fans. And you could really tell because the follow up questions were fantastic, especially considering that Rebecca was able to be a little bit more spoilery. She just told people in the audience who, of course some people didn't have time to read Onyx Storm before the tour. It's literally like two weeks after its release. So she would tell people like earmuffs, earplugs, earmuffs. And then she would give us like small spoilery things. She did mention that maybe next time to avoid the whole spoiler thing, she might do the tour a month out. And I just want to say Rebecca or Red Tower or if anyone on your team is listening, please do that because we want all the spoilers.

[Carly]

Yeah, for sure, definitely.

[Hannah]

But I also understand why they would, for marketing purposes, want to do it the first two. But I think she has far exceeded the limitations of your typical, I guess you'd say authors in this arena because boy, did this book not sell 2.5, 2.7 million copies or something crazy like that.

[Carly]

Yeah, it broke some records, I think.

[Hannah]

Yeah. So no wonder her tour, like, I think she could have went on a couple more months and people still would have showed up to this thing.

[Carly]

Yeah, I don't think she could have.

[Kinsey]

Done a couple of months. No, she wouldn't want to do that. She's happy to be home.

[Hannah]

No, absolutely not.

[Kinsey]

She is so glad to be home.

[Carly]

Yeah. And she deserves to be home.

[Hannah]

Overall, though, I think it was just super surreal seeing the Queen of Romantasy herself. I said earlier it was kind of like Eras tour. Have you guys heard of Swifty Amnesia?

[Kinsey]

No.

[Hannah]

No. Yes, Carly, of course you have. So I feel like I have something similar to that about this. It's basically when you have so much excitement for an event and then afterwards you just can't really remember it. Like, it's blurs. So I'm just really, really glad that I recorded it. Which, speaking of, I have been posting clips of the Q&As on my TikTok and the podcast's Instagram, if you would like to go see them. I'll link part one in the show notes. You can start there. But I had an absolute blast. And I'm so excited to get into all of the favorite Q and A responses that we got from Rebecca. And she gave us a lot. There were a lot of questions. An hour and a half worth of her answering questions. Something close to that.

[Carly]

An hour and ten.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, hour and ten.

[Hannah]

So without further ado, are we ready to get into our favorites?

[Kinsey]

Let's do it. Let's get into it.

[Hannah]

Perfect.

[Carly]

When asked if there was a specific scene with hidden meaning, Rebecca responded, telling us to all reread the last hundred pages of Onyx Storm. Quote, I know, I'm sorry, but a lot happens in there. And a lot happens in there. Set up for book four. And a lot happens in there to tell you what's actually happening in the world, because remember, you're only looking through certain people's eyes. So I would say, like the last hundred pages.

[Hannah]

How specific, Rebecca?

[Kinsey]

I was just like, good thing. I already did. That was the first thing I did.

[Hannah]

The first thing. Yeah, we've like literally sat down, Kinsey and I, and out loud, read through the last. Because there's so much in there. Which is exactly why we are releasing a whole episode, breaking down and explaining the ending. So if you haven't already listened to that, go check it out because she is right. So much happens, and even more that we'll be picking up. I'm sure. And teasing out in our chapters by chapters coverage that we will be starting soon. So you heard it from the Queen herself. Reread the last 100 pages, right?

[Kinsey]

As shit hits the fan.

[Carly]

Yes. And as also someone else who has reread the last with you both, I know we've broken it down quite a bit. Truly. You gotta reread those last hundred pages.

[Hannah]

You pick up more every time.

[Carly]

There's so much.

[Hannah]

I think with the first time you're like, oh my gosh, I'm emotionally invested in this tornado. And then afterwards you're like, okay, process for a second. Now I can actually pick up on the details. I think that's what's super fun about the entire series. But next question. When asked why Jack Barlow knew about Feather Tales before threshing, Rebecca responded, quote, so everyone knew that the Feather Tales existed. They just didn't know they were children because that's what was protected by the Empyrean. So they just knew they wouldn't bond and they were anti war, which kind of comes back full circle. It's so weird that you have. Okay. When things happen on places. That's kind of the unknown fact. And I'm gonna. I wanted to give you guys the full context there to not mis paraphrase. But she's trying to be vague because there's people in the audience who hadn't read the book.

[Carly]

She's definitely trying to make it so that there's the least amount of spoilers possible. So she wasn't having to do the whole earmuffs thing.

[Hannah]

Exactly.

[Carly]

Over and over again. So she was being vague where possible.

[Hannah]

But Carly, I included this one specifically because I'm really curious your thoughts on it since your Jack and Papa Sorengale theory was based a lot on this.

[Carly]

Yeah. You know, so I went back and double checked because I was like, I'm pretty sure I don't misremember this quote. And I wish the question would have been asked a little more specifically about not just why Jack knows about feathertails, but why does he know the specific information that he knows about Feather Tales? And why is Violet surprised that he knows the information? Because.

[Hannah]

Oh, that's fair.

[Carly]

Yeah. Because her response, and I went and grabbed the exact quote is no one knows anything about feathertails. So I don't know where Jack is getting his information. That is Violet's big surprise to him, talking about the feathertail information. So I guess like, why is Violet so surprised then if this is common knowledge? So I don't know if this is Just something that went a little weird in edits. Or if the question needed to be asked a little more specifically, because I've seen Rebecca Yarros give some very careful answers to things. So I'm not sure she's good at that.

[Hannah]

She's gotten really good at that.

[Carly]

Yeah, she's gotten. She has good at that. So I'm not sure which it is. But I will say, after reading that book, even before I heard this answer, my theory on all that had evolved. I'm thinking Jack was brought back from the Isles.

[Hannah]

We're like turning this into a theories episode.

[Carly]

I'm not going to go into it any further than that, I promise. But that is where I'm like, this has evolved, given the information from this book.

[Hannah]

So for the record, you no longer think that Jack is Papa Sorrengill's illegitimate child?

[Carly]

No, but I still think he has a connection to the Sorrengails.

[Hannah]

Perfect.

[Kinsey]

Rebecca said that she may do a bonus scene of Riddick and Aytrim's threshing. Personally, I would eat this absolutely when.

[Hannah]

I tell you that. The entire audience roared cheering when she said this. I think it's clear we want that, Rebecca.

[Kinsey]

We were like, please, please leave it to us. Please, we'll do anything.

[Carly]

Yeah. My heart cheered for that. I was like, yes, please.

[Hannah]

I love Zaden. All we've got is his pov. And I would be interested in getting some other people's of previous books. Rebecca, please, please, if you want, you could give us more than just a scene. You can give us a chapter. All right, moving on.

[Carly]

Rebecca Yarrow said that she purposely chose the gifts from Zenaal for each person, but of course didn't say what they were, which we are absolutely going to be deep diving.

[Hannah]

Absolutely going to be deep diving.

[Kinsey]

Yes. This question and response specifically got me so excited because this was the exact confirmation I needed, because I know Hannah and Carly and I have already started researching all the different gifs and all the different meanings that it can play. And I know it's going to be a much larger role than it already has. So I'm really excited. I mean, I know a really popular theory going around is that the compass will end up leading Violet to Zaden, which I fully believe. But there are other very interesting gift to address as well.

[Hannah]

I think it's like the coolest way to integrate Easter eggs, especially if they're like fortune telling a bit about what's to come. So she definitely was like, I'm gonna give them some toys to play with until Book four, quite literally, we just.

[Kinsey]

Need Auric to, like, be like, okay, that's what that's for. That's what that's for. That's like. That would be really handy. But she'll never make it that easy.

[Hannah]

But what could be really cool is in future books, after we get them, looking at the meaning of the gifts and then seeing how that actually played out. That's. Again, what I love about the series is the different experiences every time you read it. Now, this next one was a big one, and I will clarify. The question itself was intentionally left vague to avoid spoilers. When asked, quote, if one was to wonder about a member, like a brother, what might you wish we pay attention to? And Rebecca responded, I would pay attention to who's missing at the end. Pay attention to someone who feels like whatever they've been given is not enough. Which is always the case when you turn Venon. When you turn Venon, it's always because you need to reach for power beyond your own. You're not given enough power. End quote.

[Kinsey]

I could not believe that she gave us this.

[Hannah]

I couldn't either. And everybody was like. It was like the whole room was still for her response.

[Kinsey]

Well, we all, like, gasped, too. I felt like, to me, it made it seem so obvious, like, oh, okay, so it is Garak. But online, people are still debating, and they're like, well, this means it has to be. I saw someone say Riddick. I know a lot of people said Halden Arrek. Halden. Oh, my word. Brennan Bodhi. Like, I'm like, we still can't agree even with this massive, massive clue.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

When she said it, I looked over to Carly and I said, Garrick.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because we thought it was too obvious. And we will get way more into this. If you haven't already listened to our explaining the ending episode. We'll flesh it out more there. But the only person that she says is missing on page, which we all kind of took to be like, almost a red herring, like, a little too obvious.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Was Garrick. And this. The way she worded it was not hinting at dig deeper than what I put on the page. It was literally, go read what I wrote to you. Yeah. Who's missing? And Garrick was the one who was burning out and said that to Imogen. He was out of power. So when she says it's because you need to reach for more power beyond your own, you're not given enough. He literally was the one that said he didn't have enough. So I don't know because then it's like, it makes me second guess that so many people are also not taking it as confirmation. I'm like, what am I missing here? Am I not thinking about this hard enough? Or am I thinking too hard about it?

[Kinsey]

Yeah, well, I personally, up until this point was debating between Garak and Arryk, but when she said who's missing, who needed more power, I was like, oh, there we go. It is Garak. Because we know that Arryk abandoned his post, so technically he could be missing because we don't know where he ended up in the final battle.

[Carly]

But.

[Kinsey]

But he's not confirmed missing the same way that Garak is confirmed absolutely missing. Without a doubt.

[Hannah]

This is the question that's going to haunt me until we get Book four.

[Kinsey]

It's going to keep us occupied for like the next two years.

[Hannah]

So the next one is also really wild and came left field. We did not expect this question or response at all. When asked. Can you give us some insight into how Kaori's records for dragon and rider bonds are incorrect? And I want to preface that. This seems to be a reference to when Zaden is telling Violet about the March 1/2 signets and he says something along the lines of, not enough of Kaori's records are accurate. So that's where this question came from. And Rebecca hit us with quote, so what makes you think the members of Empyrean always give their correct name to their rider? The riders aren't aware it's a different name. It's the rider that tells you the dragon's name for record and then goes on to explain. So when the rider appears after threshing to give the name to the person who's recording the bonds, it's the rider that says the name, not the dragon. End quote.

[Kinsey]

Yeah. The audience was just like, what did she say?

[Hannah]

Yeah, yeah. The gasp. I gusped.

[Carly]

Yeah. And then she acted like she didn't just drop something insane on us, like she was surprised we were freaking out.

[Kinsey]

Yeah. I was like, hold up.

[Hannah]

It took me a minute to process still. And even rereading this, basically she's saying that there are dragons out there who are giving their rider the wrong name to then give for Kaori's records, essentially, which tying this back seemed to imply in relation to the marked ones. Right. So this question still takes me time to process.

[Kinsey]

Yeah. I'm just like, okay, so are there dragons that just disappear for a couple decades and then come back and pretend to be somebody else? Potentially. They're like elder dragons flying around that are super knowledgeable and they're just screwing stuff up for everybody else. But don't the other dragons know who they are? Nobody's snitched on anybody.

[Hannah]

It seems like it's like a cahoots thing. Yeah, it's just because they're also referring to each other with those names. And it seems like the reasoning is that they're going and bonding a family member of a previous rider knowing that their signet would be stronger, which is really interesting considering that that implies it's actually a human rule and not an Empyrean rule. I know a lot of people were commenting on the video being like, oh my God, is Taryn not Taryn is Indarna not in Darna is Sigail. And I think that our core dragons are safe, especially because we have like, the reasoning for Sigail specifically was that the record showed it was a great uncle instead of a grandfather. But all the others are fair game. For me, I guess it would specifically be the March ones dragons.

[Carly]

Perhaps. But I am also going to say, like, I wouldn't put it past Sigail to do this in the past just because the current riders have their. Maybe their current name. What about previous writers? Maybe it's not necessarily even that the current writers have the incorrect name, but maybe previous writers had the incorrect name and that's how they're going to bond in the same familial line.

[Hannah]

Oh, so we could have the right name now.

[Carly]

Potentially. So I think we could see it going either way. So it opens up so many possibilities. And she acted like she didn't just drop some huge theory bomb on us. And I just have not stopped thinking about this since she said it. Nope.

[Kinsey]

It's going to haunt me. Next up, Rebecca said that Auric signet did manifest in Onyx Storm before joining Quest Squad, but that you could find moments where he had gut feelings about things before he understood that it was his signet even earlier than that.

[Hannah]

Which is a big question we've all had, like, do we go back and reread the end of Iron Flame to see if, like it was back then, but it doesn't seem to be. Unless she's implying, which I don't really think she was, based on the context that he was having those gut feelings then.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, they specifically asked a follow up question. What about the ending of Iron Flame? And she said no to Iron Flame. She said specifically Onyx Storm only. So don't feel the need to look for that in your rereads.

[Hannah]

But we will be Looking for those gut feeling moments because I can already think of a couple of them in our chapters by chapters. Deep dive.

[Kinsey]

I definitely think it started like, the moment he started teasing, like, oh, Violet would make great nobility. Ha ha ha.

[Hannah]

A duchess. Yeah, that's one of my favorite moments. Okay. She also said that they cut a chapter out of Onyx Storm where the whole squad was going together to find Papa Sorrengeill's research, but that they changed it to just Dane getting it for both fitting her book length requirement and because it was important to her that this be part of Dain's character arc. And as much as I'm sure that chapter was awesome and I was initially begging for it in the audience when she said that, I was like, I'm glad that it was just Dain as.

[Kinsey]

A proud Dane defender. I loved this because, like, there was a moment, even reading Onyx Storm where I was like, please, Dane, don't do something stupid. Like, please don't betray her now, like, I really need you to just get this research and go. And he proved himself yet again, redeeming his character arc. You know what I'm saying? So I really like that she decided to make it all about Dane.

[Carly]

Yeah. I'm glad that Violet was able to find trust in Dain to do that and that he came through. I still think it would have been cool if we would have gotten a little bit of, like, him trying to figure out how to get it or it being more difficult or something. But I do understand, though, that there was already a lot going on in that book and maybe that wasn't an added element. I just was expecting there to be this element of Mission Impossible trying to get the research, and we didn't get that, which is totally fine. But I do love that we got that moment where Violet decides to just trust him and he comes through.

[Hannah]

I do recall thinking in my first read of Onyx Storm that that seemed very like, well, that was easy. Like, that was not teased out much at all. And so this context makes a lot of sense for that.

[Kinsey]

It also started the beginning of Violet delegating tasks instead of like, I have to do everything myself. Like, that's why we got these additional point of view chapters at the very end, because Violet can't be everywhere at. So this was kind of part of it. I think it was setting it up for that.

[Hannah]

Well, and then just in case we didn't fit this into what we were going to talk about, she also said the reason we got those POVs was because Violet. Yeah. Needs to delegate. But also we, for the most part only ever get to know what Violet does. And so in re and Imogen's POVs, we did get to see the things that Violet doesn't in minimal capacity. I thought that was really cool.

[Carly]

Yeah. So our favorite Rebecca said that Violet's second signet will evolve, that she is only utilizing it at 10% capacity in Onyx Storm.

[Hannah]

10, 10, 10.

[Carly]

And that her first is at 85% capacity. So there's that.

[Hannah]

I said the other moments before we gasped. This was the one. Everyone in the room. I can't believe she told us that for one. Also. I feel so hopeful now because we kind of hinted at thinking that she was going to be a mindwalker first of all. This confirmed that for me. But we were saying like one kind of a little underwhelmed by the signet and its use in this book. And we were like, it could be really cool. So to hear her say 10%.

[Carly]

Yeah. I will say though, that we have Violet learning her first signet for two full books and she wasn't even trying to learn this one and she's not even trying until book four. So it'll be interesting to see how she gets from 10% to something significant in time for it to be important. We'll see how she gets there.

[Hannah]

I will also add Rebecca also included that there is only one person that Violet could learn this signet with, which is a whole rabbit hole that we will save, but that also she would be killed for it because she is an intensic. I can't help but think that she's actually going to be like a full blown intensic on steroids.

[Kinsey]

I hope so. But that could be really cool. I was even just like more blown away by the fact that Violet's at 85% of her threshold for just her pure power signet. So I'm really hop that she starts to utilize better control without the conduit in the upcoming books. But I'm like, Dang, 85. That's a lot.

[Carly]

That is a lot. And she did imply that the remaining was mostly about control. So I think you're gonna get what you want, Kenzie.

[Kinsey]

Yes.

[Hannah]

And it doesn't end there. My. Oh my gosh. Okay, so prepare for a moment for me to be absolutely insufferable. Guys. Zaden's second signant, she said, is only at 50% capacity, which I have been screaming in definitely other words since season one when we did our deep dive of fourth wing through the lens of Iron Flame. Because that was a lot of what we were looking for because of the reveal in Iron Flame and somehow conversations in Onyx Storm got left out of our initial reactions episode. So we're going to just plug that in right here. I felt so validated when I was reading Onyx Storm and they kept having the conversations about, like, pointing out that he was actually reading her fucking thoughts this whole time and he just didn't know which again, our deep dive will go into that. But this is like confirmation on top of the confirmation. Not you guys. You guys have been on this as well. But, like, no one can convince me that he is not a full intensic that can read thoughts and not just intentions. Like, it's so validating.

[Kinsey]

I think it's terrifying now that he's only at 50%, but he's a full venon. Yeah. So it's like you go into, like, how much more powerful he's going to be with his Venin powers too. I'm just like, ooh.

[Hannah]

Alone. Just his shadow. Look at what he just did with his shadows.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, I think we're gonna get a lot more intensics manifesting signets to counter him.

[Hannah]

That would make sense because we got Lynx as the counter for who else is a first year who would get the intensic ability?

[Kinsey]

I don't know any of the first year's names.

[Hannah]

Yeah, we gotta, like blue Pass those.

[Kinsey]

But no, but I mean, like, could Violet Signet even be, like. I mean, granted she did manifest before.

[Hannah]

He turned, but technically she's still been using it. Yeah.

[Kinsey]

And like, would precognition count as Xaden thinks? It's intentions. Precognition is seeing something like actions that will happen in the future. Could Arryx be the counter to that in a way? Like, it's not. He's not an intensic.

[Hannah]

This all depends on how far Rebecca wants to take it, how literal she wants us to take her rules.

[Kinsey]

But I was like, oh, my gosh, Zaddy's gonna be unstoppable.

[Hannah]

That question alone prompting three different percentages. The 10, the 85 and the 50. I could have walked in there, only heard that response and felt like completely satisfied with the entire Q and A.

[Kinsey]

Well, we got that and we got the brothers. To me, that's all I needed.

[Carly]

Yeah, I think those two and then just the dragon names was to me like the big bombshells in this panel. But I will say, I think one of the things that was very interesting to me about this question was what did not come Up. Which was his first signet.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Carly]

Was this intentionally left out? I don't know. I'm so curious because I've been the one saying I don't think his first signet is really Shadows. I think it's the ability to nullify power.

[Hannah]

Ooh.

[Carly]

I think it's very interesting. The first signet for Zaden does not get mentioned. It seems specifically left out.

[Kinsey]

I hope that it's similar to Violet's first signet. Around 85%. He's probably more like 90, because, for one, he's a second lieutenant, and he was able to train a lot longer than Violet has been able to train. So he has better control. But he definitely is continuing to grow that signet still. So I feel like it's gotta be higher than the intrinsic one because he can't be like, hey, Professor Carr, why don't you teach me how to read people's minds? He can't do that. But I agree with you, Carly. I was like, give us the tea.

[Carly]

Yes.

[Hannah]

My mind just keeps going back to that one person who can train Violet. I'm like, who? Ooh, that's another one. That'll help if Zaden's there.

[Kinsey]

Zayden. If not, maybe Dane. I don't know.

[Hannah]

See, but Zaden even says he needs someone to train him. So it's like, I guess he could technically train her a little, like he did with, like, Professor Zaddy did. But I don't. I have a feeling it's someone else.

[Carly]

I kind of don't think it's probably somebody that she would have access to.

[Hannah]

So let me ask you this, because we said that we assumed Berwyn was a dreamwalker as well, since he is actively in their dreams and dreamwalking. Is he also the mindwalker? Oh, okay, this is, like, left field question really quick. Is it all mavens that an initiate gets pulled to, or is it just a mindwalker?

[Kinsey]

Fnin he's not a maven.

[Hannah]

Sage.

[Kinsey]

But I think it's up to the sage and. Or maven, because Theophany specifically said that she would give Violet control and that it's like a special bond. So I think they're choosing to have bonds with them.

[Hannah]

But still, that does clarify that. It's very unlikely that that would be the case.

[Kinsey]

I don't think it's because of his signet. But also part of me is kind of like, I don't really know if he's necessarily a dreamwalker. Mindwalker would be better. But also a lot of those nightmares that Zaden Was having was. It was a way for the venom to communicate with him, but it was also a form of precognition because he was telling him what was gonna happen. He could have been impl that idea into Zaden's head. But it's just very strange to me. Like, Berwyn recognized that Violet's a dreamwalker, but I don't necessarily think that means that's what he does. I think mind walking would be better.

[Hannah]

But if he is the counter to Violet, essentially she is the counter to him, it would make sense that he doesn't just do dreams as well. If there is a counter to Violet out there or vice versa, they also have the extended capability. It's not just limited to dreamwalking, but that is really fascinating to think about. And I think we should just keep in mind as we go through, like, all of our questions in our deep dive, that we keep saying, like, this nature likes everything in balance. But, like, who's to say? Because theophany even says that it was unbalanced for a long time. Who's to say that before Zaden turned, it was balanced perfectly, and now he has thrown off the balance somehow. Maybe Violet and him being on the same side was unbalanced, and now he has balanced it out. So just a mind twister for you for the next year or so while we wait for this book.

[Carly]

I know so many things to theorize.

[Hannah]

About, but that's what's fun. Which she also. Rebecca did also say she loved not debunking a lot of our theories because she likes that we have fun with it.

[Kinsey]

And so I was like, I kind of would like to get a few debunked that way I don't keep wasted my time on that.

[Hannah]

Yeah, let me get closer to being correct, Rebecca. But does she really want us to do that? Because she wants us to be surprised.

[Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So she wins no matter what, because it's marketing.

[Carly]

Yeah, that's true. That's very accurate.

[Hannah]

Speaking of crazy Easter eggs and theories that it could prompt, she said that she has laid in Easter eggs for pirates and the Kraken in previous books that she may or may not go back to in future books.

[Carly]

Okay. I was so excited about this because I love pirates. When I actually took a mythology class, we actually had, like, a whole coursework on pirates because there's, like, there's real pirates, right? And then there's, like, pirate mythology. And I would love for her to write a pirate series. It just would be the icing on the cake.

[Hannah]

I'm Pretty sure Victoria Aveyard is writing a pirate fantasy series. The Red Queen author. Yeah, pretty sure that's what she's working on right now.

[Carly]

Well, I would be very excited for that too. But, yeah, she wasn't clear if she was going to include this in this series or another series, because she said something along the lines of, I have two more books to write to include these things. Or maybe not in this series. I would love a whole series just on pirates.

[Hannah]

Almost seems like she's, like, building her own world universe.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Which is cool, considering we're only on one continent.

[Kinsey]

Well, the island where Zaden's mother is. Is it Hadadis? Is that how it's pronounced? I don't know. We'll go with it.

[Carly]

I think you're close enough.

[Kinsey]

But she had them specifically mention that they were afraid of the water, so I feel like that could kind of tie into the Kraken a little bit.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Kinsey]

Oh, because I. I was reading with my friend Bria, and I literally had turned to her at one point and I was like, why does she keep mentioning that they're afraid of the water? I'm like, are we gonna see a sea dragon? Like, what's going on here?

[Hannah]

But that could be cool.

[Kinsey]

When she. When Rebecca had brought up the Kraken again at her Q and A, I was like, well, maybe that's what it is.

[Hannah]

And Heaton can breathe underwater, so it's like, there's the groundworks there.

[Carly]

Yeah, I definitely think there's some universe building here because she does say she has those four other ideas she pitched, Red Tower, and she might still write some of those fantasy series. So I think there is some universe building here, and I would absolutely live for that. So. Yes, please.

[Hannah]

We call it, like, what, the Yar verse. It doesn't quite work as well as verse.

[Carly]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kinsey]

Rebecca has said that she is going to ask her team if we can get matching sprayed edge editions of 4th Wing and Iron Flame. She did clarify that she hates doing special editions and doesn't have control over them, but people in the audience kept requesting them. So she has agreed to ask and seemed very scared of Instagram backlash. So she said, okay, audience, clarify for everybody. You do want this. And we were all like, yeah, we want it.

[Hannah]

She was like, I'll ask. I'll ask. Yeah, that was very interesting to hear her kind of, like, talk around it, because it seemed like she wanted to give it to us, but she was like, I don't know, guys. Are you setting me up right now?

[Carly]

Yeah, I definitely Think there's some conscientiousness around the topic of having multiple, multiple special editions of books and having people go through so much anguish trying to get their hands on that first edition, that first copy, that first special edition, just for there to be another one around the corner. And so I do appreciate that, but I would love an Iron Flame special edition that went a little more with my Fourth Wing and Onyx Storm edition.

[Hannah]

Just having the option to have one that matches would be really, really great. She also did say she wasn't going to reprint the first edition of Fourth Wing, which I thought was really interesting.

[Carly]

And I will say, though, she is an absolute queen for making sure her bonus chapters end up on her website, available to all readers, that all readers have access to the full canon of the series, regardless of their access to special editions, because libraries do not often carry them. So thank you so much for making sure we always have access to those, Rebecca.

[Kinsey]

She's honestly the best for that.

[Carly]

Yeah, she is. On the topic of bonus chapters, Rebecca Yarrow said she would love to write a bonus chapter for Iron Flame where Zaden found out that Violet has been taken for interrogation.

[Hannah]

Let's fucking go, right?

[Carly]

But clarified a difference between wanting to write it and going to write it. Implied that she couldn't write this one yet because Zaden is still hiding something that would spoil it for us, which I immediately freaked out in the audience because I have long said that the way Zaden got those, Wyvern is very suspicious that he was able to find them because nobody knows where they're coming from. And he was able to get so many so quickly. And so I think it has something to do with that. And we won't get into theories here, but I would live for this chapter. I understand that there might be secrets we can't know yet, and maybe it'll come out when the series is complete, but please, could we get this when the series is over?

[Hannah]

I want it so bad. I think it sounded to me like after the next couple books, she could go back and rewrite that or, like, write that one for us.

[Kinsey]

And I think she did clarify too, because she's like, what I can write or what I want to write for an additional Iron Flame chapter. And she was very specific that she wants to write this, but she just can't. And I'm like, please, Rebecca, do what we have. Do whatever you have to do to make sure that we get this, because.

[Hannah]

That'S going to be releasing book four or five, which it does prompt a reread of those scenes from Violet's perspective where she mentions Zaden. Because there's clearly something going on right there that you could have a field day with for theories.

[Kinsey]

This is Prevenon Zaden. What else does he have to hide?

[Hannah]

She said a lot. Yeah, which is why we didn't get back and forth POV in Onyx Storm of her and Zaden. Because he's still hiding a bunch of stuff, which I guess this one's been in.

[Carly]

So I don't care if I have to wait four years, five years. I mean, I waited, what, a decade for this new Hunger Games book that's coming out in March that Kinsey and I are so excited for.

[Kinsey]

I'm so excited.

[Carly]

I'm so excited. I don't care how long I have to wait. But I just putting it out into the universe, even if it's after the series is over. I want this bonus chapter so bad of Zaden finding out she's been taken for interrogation, hunting the wyvern, getting back to her. I want it so bad, I also.

[Hannah]

Want him killing everyone. Yes.

[Kinsey]

I wonder if part of it could be because they did communicate mentally through a bond, but technically she was under the serum and that.

[Hannah]

I think you're onto something there.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because it seems awfully suspicious that that still hasn't been brought up. But in another Q and A, I've seen her kind of like debunk the fated mates. Kind of. She was very. She does this thing where she's very.

[Carly]

Specific in her wording, walks the line.

[Hannah]

And so some things you really can't take as full confirmation just because of how suspiciously she says it.

[Kinsey]

I'mma be delulu until it's in the book saying no.

[Hannah]

I think what she said was something along the lines of, I love reading about fated mates, not writing it. That sounds like a no, but also not a no.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, they don't have to be fated, but they could still be mates. Like the way that they have their bond because there are mates in the Empyrean, they just are with dragons. So, yeah. I don't know.

[Carly]

I just do think it's suspicious that their bond worked even when she was on the serum. And that has not been addressed. I haven't seen anybody even ask that question, so.

[Kinsey]

Dang it.

[Hannah]

Well, I think we're gonna find out pretty quickly, though. We do have the other means of communication via dreams for book four, but I imagine if it was ever gonna come out, it's gonna be during book four. So.

[Kinsey]

Yeah. Yeah, she did say we might get some more POVs from his point of view, but it depends on what he's doing. And I turn to Bria and I'm like, sleeping, sleeping. That's when we'll get his POV in book four, when he's asleep.

[Hannah]

That actually, strangely enough, leads us into our next question, which I have to say, I don't even know how to start this because I'm so freaking stoked to talk about it. It's my two favorite things in life. Rebecca Yarros and Taylor Swift. Quick preface before we get into this. In another Q and A, Rebecca was asked about the first song on the playlist because she already started it. She said she had the first song, and it was a Taylor Swift song specifically from Tortured Poets department for book four. And so that sent me into a spiral this last weekend in the backseat of Kinsey's car with Carly going through TTPD and narrowing down the ones that I thought it was going to be. And she was intentionally vague about it and said she didn't want to release what song that was because it would scare us.

[Carly]

Yes.

[Hannah]

So that's the context we had going into it, but she gave it to us. And not only that, she gave us two more. So she says. Rebecca says that the first two to three songs on the Book 4 playlist are down bad. But Daddy, I love him and I can fix him. No, really, I can.

[Carly]

And Hannah, what were the songs that you gave me in the back of Kinsey's car as your top contenders for.

[Hannah]

What the songs could possibly be down bad? I also said loml until we listened to it. And I was like, no, I really think it's down bad. Yeah, but the crazy thing is, I also said, but Daddy, I love him and I can fix him. To really, I can. We're perfect. Except they don't fit her description of scaring us. I said, they are going to be on that playlist, but they are not the first song. So literally, when she said it, I was sitting next to Carly and she said, down bad. And I was like, oh, my God, I called it. And she said, but, Daddy, I love him. And I'm like, I called that one too. And she said, I could fix the.

[Carly]

And I was like, how did I.

[Hannah]

Call all of them?

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So I feel so vindicated and validated in my Empyrean Swifty signet.

[Carly]

Yeah. I got to witness Hannah have a Swifty Empyrean short circuit in real time. It was amazing, and I was so deeply impressed.

[Hannah]

I am so proud of that. But I Will take a step back here and be like, I get why she said Down Bad is gonna scare us. Interestingly enough, I've posted a reel about Down Bad, but it was in the context of Onyx Storm. So I was listening to it and it said the line. She, Taylor sang the line, how dare you think it's romantic, leaving me safe and stranded. And I gasped as I was working one day and I was like, oh, my God, I have to make it real. I have to tell people this is what I'm scared of happening in Onyx Storm. Like, what if he pulls a new moon and red tower? Rebecca's publisher followed the podcast account from that reel and I thought, oh, shit, it's for sure on that playlist. Little did I know that this was not the new moon book. Book four, at least for the start of it is. And that song, everyone go listen to that song Down Bad by Taylor Swift.

[Carly]

Yep.

[Hannah]

Don't even get me started. All right, I'm gonna Moving on. So one thing she also did add is that specific for Violet moving into book four from Onyx Storm, her song from any Taylor Swift album the interviewers were very clear about that is look what yout Made Me do, which is a reputation track. I thought it was interesting that that's not in her first three playlists, but it's Violet at the beginning, so do with that what you will. That will keep my wheels turning for a good minute.

[Carly]

I will say, when you were first talking about these songs and you brought up Down Bad, I was like, I think that really fits with Violet's state of mind at the end of Onyx Storm. Because Down Bad is angry. It's sad angry. It's very much like both of those emotions mixed up together. And I was like, that really works because it's so angry. And look what you Made me Do is also a pretty.

[Hannah]

Like it's the response to that anger.

[Carly]

Yeah, it's like, you've pushed me too far and now this is what you get.

[Hannah]

Well, and in Down Bad, she's quite literally Down Bad. Like, she's saying, like, fuck it, if I can't have him, I might just die. It would make no difference. But then in look what you Made Me do, it's honey, I rose up from the dead. I do it all the time. So it's literally like the parallel. That's a story right there. Down Bad to Look what yout Made Me do. Which that was poetic. That. That was poetic.

[Carly]

Your swifty knowledge in this moment was incredible. And I watching it happen in real time was really just. I was in awe. I was like, I can't believe she got every single one.

[Hannah]

I can't believe I didn't film a video. I know. On Saturday night before we saw this, so that I could be like, look, I for real did, guys. So I'm glad you guys were there.

[Kinsey]

We were there. We heard it.

[Carly]

We vouched for you.

[Hannah]

Kinsey's like, I was tired of hearing it, honestly.

[Kinsey]

Yeah, no comment. I hear. I don't know what any of these songs mean. I don't know what she's talking about, but I'm like, yeah, she said it it. I heard it.

[Hannah]

I mean, that's all the validation I needed. It's fine. Yeah, I'll never let anyone live that down. Just so, you know, insufferable about it.

[Carly]

And that wraps up our Rebecca Yarros Onyx Storm Tour episode. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you are listening and stay tuned for our next episode, Chapters by Chapters Deep Dive of Onyx Storm, where we will be deep diving into all things, characters, scenes, theories, foreshadowing Easter eggs, lore and more.

[Hannah]

If you haven't already, check out our first season Chapters by Chapters Deep Dive on Fourth Wing through the lens of Iron Flame. There are over 30 hours of binge worthy content to explore where we pick up all of the things that Iron Flame changed about Fourth Wing. And there are timestamps in the show notes in every episode if you'd like to jump around.

[Kinsey]

As always, we encourage you to email us all of your thoughts, theories and suggestions. Feel free to DM us on Instagram or join us over on our free Discord group chat.

[Hannah]

Until next time, dearest fantasy readers, prepare yourselves for our first Onyx Storm Chapters by Chapters episode as we continue our journey through the Empyrean series. Oh, also my bracelets.

[Carly]

Oh yeah.

[Hannah]

I'm very, very proud of them. Between Carlie, Kinsey and some other people we met, I got if Lost Return to Zaden Ryerson. I made that draw up the papers. Sorengale with two Rs. But Daddy, I love him. And Zaden Ryerson. Oh, and Wing Leader.

[Carly]

I think there might be a theme.

[Hannah]

Yeah, there might be a theme.

[Kinsey]

What's funny is like a few days before the event I had posted on threads and I was like, can someone make me an Eyes Here bracelet for Dain? I'm not joking when I say I probably ended up leaving that event with five or six bracelets that just said Dane or it said Eyes here Or it said, gods, don't I know it. And I was like, oh, my goodness, what is going on? But I also have save a dragon ride.

[Carly]

Zaddy.

[Kinsey]

And Riddick fan club president. I have more. I took him off because I moved my arms too much, and I would. That'd be too jingly. But I thought it was really funny that most of my bracelets were somehow about Dane.

[Carly]

And then for how that happened.

[Hannah]

Says a lot about both of us, eh?

[Kinsey]

Well, I mean, like, I don't go that hard for Dane. I was just like, guys, give him a chance. He deserves friendship. We should trust him.

[Hannah]

Like, I don't go that hard for you.

[Kinsey]

Oh, now I do.

[Hannah]

Now I go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kinsey]

Zaden is dead to me. Just kidding.

[Hannah]

No, don't come for me, guys.

[Kinsey]

I love Zayden still, but I do go hard for Dana.

[Carly]

Yeah, you really do. Yeah. I ended up with a couple. I have a Riddick inspired one. I have one with the dragons names on it and a couple others.

[Hannah]

You're multifaceted.

[Carly]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

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