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Dear Jane
Hosted by Scott Baker & Marcie Little · EN
This podcast brings together pro-life leaders and individuals of all stripes to have meaningful conversations about the issue of life. How do we tackle the massive injustice of abortion while keeping the abortion-minded woman at the forefront of our considerations? How do we hold heartbreak, anger, and compassion close to our hearts to minister to everyone impacted by abortion? How do we work with others with whom we differ ideologically on every other issue except the issue of abortion to promote a culture of life? These are just some of the questions we wrestle with on our Dear Jane podcast.
The other side only wants to highlight our differences, but we want to talk with people in the movement about what unites us. Dear Jane focuses on the one thing we can all agree on: the sanctity of every human life. Dear Jane will host the hard conversations, ask the tough questions, and acknowledge our differences while always keeping in mind our shared beliefs. Tune in to listen to heartfelt conversations and learn more about what your place in the pro-life movement may be!
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Has the Pro-Life Movement Lost Its Focus?
1w ago00:29:19Tap to summarizeThe pro-life movement is not having one conversation right now. It has several, and they do not always agree with each other.Scott and Marcie discuss the Massachusetts bill that would allow abortion up to birth and the question it raises about messaging: As the movement has shifted its focus toward the mother, has it made a strategic mistake by stepping back from talking about the baby? They discuss fetal pain—what it is, how it shapes the conversation, and why some in the movement have moved away from talking about it.They also examine the California lawsuit in which the state's attorney general is seeking more than $20 million and a permanent gag order against Heartbeat International and Real Options for telling women about Abortion Pill Reversal. Under oath, the state's own expert witness could not say APR is unsafe, could not say it does not work, and could not support the state's claim that the abortion pill is safer than Tylenol.These conversations are shaping the future of the pro-life movement and raising questions it can no longer avoid.Watch the full episode of Dear Jane.--0:23 — Abortion Up to Birth1:49 — Have We Abandoned the Baby?3:30 — The Fetal Pain Argument4:16 — The Baby Recoils5:40 — The Problem With Subjectivism6:50 — Reorienting Around the Baby7:54 — What's Your Favorite Type of Abortion?9:34 — Equal Protection Explained11:00 — Inside the Movement's Divide13:14 — Unapologetic About the Goal14:12 — Is the Movement Making It Worse?15:00 — Abortion Is Illegal. It's Still Happening.17:10 — History Doesn't Answer 202619:30 — Showing What Abortion Actually Is20:00 — The California Lawsuit21:00 — Coercion and the Feminist Silence21:50 — The Baby Who Almost Wasn't22:40 — The Witness Who Couldn't Back It Up23:50 — Population Control on the Stand24:40 — What If We Just Called It Progesterone?26:00 — APR Is a Choice27:00 — Taking Away the Right to Change Your Mind
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What If Family Is Being Redefined Without You Knowing?
2w ago00:34:38Tap to summarizeThe redefinition of the family is not happening all at once. It is happening one sentence at a time, buried inside 80-page bills that most lawmakers never fully read, drafted by legal bodies most people have never heard of, and framed as routine updates to reflect the modern reality of family life. Patience Sunne, Engagement Director at Them Before Us, has been reading those bills. She joins Dear Jane to talk about what is actually in them: the removal of mother and father language from parentage laws, the legalization of surrogacy without a single background check, the quiet allowance of poly parenting slipped into a single line of code, and what any of it means for the child at the center of all of it.Them Before Us recently released the Children's Rights Scorecard, grading all 50 states on how well their laws protect children's rights. You can look up your state. The grades are illuminating.This is not a conversation about politics. It is a conversation about what children need and whether anyone in power is asking.Watch the full episode on Dear Jane.
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What Finally Made an Abortion Clinic Nurse Walk Away
3w ago00:45:35Tap to summarizeShe was a nurse. She believed she was providing care and helping women. She had no idea what she was walking into.Naomi Padilla spent four years inside a Tampa abortion clinic where, she says, surgical suites were wiped down with a household cleaner, women were processed like cattle, and the words baby and God weren't allowed to be spoken.A woman who said she wasn't sure was still ushered through the abortion process.A woman who called back, saying she was on the brink of taking her own life, received no emergency intervention. No one called 911.And the number of procedures completed determined whether the staff got pizza or “the good lunch.”When Naomi later met former abortion workers from across the country, she realized her clinic was not an isolated case. More than 700 workers have connected with And Then There Were None, many of whom have described similar experiences.Then one day, a patient offered her $50 just to hear her baby’s heartbeat.Naomi had not heard one in two years.Everything began to change.Today, Naomi is part of And Then There Were None, an organization that helps abortion workers leave the industry and begin healing. She joins Dear Jane to tell the story of what she witnessed, what finally changed her mind, and why she believes her story is only one of many.
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The Legal War on Pregnancy Centers, Abortion Pill Reversal, and the Women Behind the Cases
4w ago00:29:20Tap to summarizeThe New Jersey attorney general created a strike force to investigate pro-life pregnancy centers.One of those centers received a subpoena demanding ten years of private donor records.No complaints had been filed. No fraud had been alleged.The case went all the way to the Supreme Court, which ruled unanimously in the pregnancy center's favor.Twenty-four hours later, the state found a way to keep fighting anyway.That is just one case.In New York and California, attorneys general are trying to silence pregnancy centers for simply telling women that abortion pill reversal exists. In Louisiana, a woman's ex-boyfriend ordered mifepristone online and coerced her to take it. And the drug whose label says one in twenty-five women will end up in the emergency room is now available to anyone with a few minutes and an internet connection.Gabriella McIntyre is an attorney with the Alliance Defending Freedom. She joins Dear Jane to walk through all of it, the cases, the creative tactics, the real stories behind the headlines, and answer the question most people are left with at the end:What can the rest of us actually do about any of this?
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1.5 Million Frozen Orphans and What the IVF Industry Won't Tell You
Jul 200:36:42Tap to summarizeWhat happens to the human embryos that are never chosen?Emma Waters has spent years asking that question. A researcher at the Heritage Foundation and the author of the forthcoming book, Rethinking Fertility, she joins Dear Jane to talk about the 1.5 million frozen embryos currently in storage across the United States, human beings suspended in time, some for decades, and the fertility industry that created them with fragmented regulatory oversight.Emma breaks down how genetic screening allows parents to test embryos for everything from Down syndrome to IQ, personality traits, and male pattern baldness, selecting which lives continue and which are destroyed. She also covers a federal class action lawsuit filed in California in 2025, where a woman destroyed her last remaining embryos based on a 98% reliability statistic that turned out to be scientifically unsupported.And she asks the harder question underneath all of it: how did a $35 billion industry with the power to make these decisions end up answering to almost no one?
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What Happens When You Build a Business Around Your Values?
Jun 2500:30:23Tap to summarizeWhat happens when you stop waiting for Washington to fix things and start building the solution yourself?Anton Krecic left political fundraising convinced that policy alone wasn't enough to end abortion. So he started Seven Weeks Coffee, named after a question his wife asked: When is a baby the size of a coffee bean? The answer is at seven weeks, the same point when a heartbeat can often be detected on ultrasound. The mission followed naturally: give 10% of every sale to pregnancy care centers and build it unapologetically pro-life from day one.Nearly $2 million in donations later, he joins Dear Jane to talk about boldness in the marketplace, what the parable of the talents can teach entrepreneurs, and why the pro-life movement needs more Christians building businesses. He also weighs in on the difference between being humble and passivity, the importance of unifying within the pro-life movement, and how he would respond if Starbucks came calling.Timestamps:1:00 — The Idea Behind Seven Weeks: Mission, Name, and Giving Back4:50 — From Political Fundraising to Pro-Life Business7:40 — Why For-Profit Can Be a Force for Good8:40 — Christians in the Marketplace: Excellence as a Calling10:13 — The Quality Behind the Coffee: Sourcing and Standards11:30 — Advice for Mission-Driven Entrepreneurs15:00 — What Holds Christians Back from Bold Business16:30 — Prioritizing Pro-Life Partners in Business18:40 — There Is a Market for Values19:30 — Be Proud, Be Bold, Be Unapologetic23:40 — Unity Over Division: Navigating Internal Pro-Life Debates26:06 — Fake Reviews and the Overwhelming Pro-Life Response27:30 — What Is Next for Seven Weeks Coffee28:25 — What Anton Would Say to Starbucks
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The Uncomplicated Alternative to Abortion That Works 98% of the Time
Jun 1900:33:25Tap to summarizeWhat if the reason most women choose abortion isn't because they want one, but because they don't feel like they have any other options? Emily Berning of Let Them Live has seen it firsthand: when you remove the financial pressure, the isolation, and the panic, 98% of abortion-minded women choose life. Not because they were lectured or given platitudes, but because someone actually met their needs. In this episode, Emily breaks down what a true funded alternative to abortion looks like: immediate support, mid-term stability, long-term independence. She makes the case that the pro-life movement can't only fight to end abortion without funding the alternative. The church, employers—and yes, even the government—all have a role to play. This isn't a theoretical solution. It's happening right now. And it works. If you're pro-life and you're serious about saving lives, this conversation will inspire and challenge how you think about what "winning" actually requires.
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Jesse Ridgway Aborts Son with Down Syndrome and the Horrifying Reality of Eugenics
Jun 1100:34:48Tap to summarizeJesse Ridgway, known online as "McJuggerNuggets", recently shared that he and his wife aborted their unborn son after he was diagnosed with Trisomy 21, also known as Down syndrome. The Ridgway's viral announcement sparked a much bigger conversation about abortion, disability, and the sinister role of eugenics in abortion decisions. In this episode, we talk about why a Down syndrome diagnosis so often changes how parents decide the value of their child’s life. We also expose what happens when technology is used to identify genetic conditions before birth and abortion becomes the expected next step being pushed relentlessly by doctors. Our conversation isn't just about one influencer's tragic abortion decision. It is about the growing pressure to decide who is worth welcoming into the world based on a test result.
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The Abortion Comments We Couldn’t Ignore | Plus Ongoing Equal Protection Debate?
Jun 400:43:00Tap to summarizeSome commenters said unborn children have no more value than sperm. Others claimed no one is truly pro-abortion, abortion regret does not matter, and the abortion pill is safer than Tylenol.This video dives into a candid and often intense abortion debate, exploring differing views on the value of unborn life and the concept of abortion as health care. We respond to some of the most revealing, frustrating, and widely repeated reactions to recent episodes, then turn to the growing debate over equal protection and whether pregnancy help centers could be affected by mandatory reporting laws.Scott and Marcie discuss:◼ Why abortion regret may be a weaker pro-life argument than many people realize◼ What happens when human value is based on intelligence, ability, or personhood◼ What a new legal memo says about equal protection and pregnancy help centers◼ Whether enforcement concerns are enough to reject equal protection legislation◼ Why one of the hosts says she is slowly moving toward equal protectionEQUAL PROTECTION MEMORANDUM: https://faa.app.box.com/v/PHC-reporting Follow The Dear Jane Podcast:Website - https://dearjane.orgInstagram - https://instagram.com/dearjanepodcastFacebook - https://facebook.com/dearjanepodcast
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She Had an Abortion. Should She Have Been Held Liable? | Part 2
May 2800:48:42Tap to summarizeBreanne Houston had an abortion at eighteen. Today she sits on the other side of the room, helping women in the exact moment she once lived. And she holds a view most people don't expect from someone with her story. She believes women who get abortions should be held liable.In Part 2 of our equal protection series, Breanne joins Marcie and Scott to make her case, from the terminology people get wrong, to the line between pressure and coercion, to what it would actually mean to treat abortion the way we treat any other taking of life. It's an honest, uncomfortable, real-world conversation about one of the most divisive questions inside the pro-life movement, told by someone who has lived both sides of it.ABOUT THE GUESTBreanne Houston helps lead Alliance Family Services and is launching a new pro-life clinic in Lenoir City, Tennessee, serving women facing unexpected pregnancies with free ultrasounds, abortion pill reversal, and long-term support. https://www.alliancefamilyservices.org/WHAT WE GET INTOWhat "equal protection" really means, and why the words matterThe difference between pressure and coercionHow prosecuting women would affect pregnancy centers and abortion pill reversal.Whether it would drive abortion further into the dark, or stop itThe committee room moment that crystallized all of it for Breanne
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