Deepen with Pastor Joby Martin – The Weight of Dad’s Words + The Love of the Father

Episode: Matthew S1E2 | Date: January 19, 2026

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This episode of "Deepen with Pastor Joby Martin" takes a deep dive into the sermon on Matthew’s account of Jesus’ baptism, exploring the immense impact of a father’s words, the biblical meaning and purpose of baptism, and John the Baptist’s unique role in preparing the way for Jesus. With a roundtable of candid storytelling and theological clarity, Pastor Joby and guests examine how the blessing and presence of a father echo our longing for relationship with God, discuss the doctrinal landscape around baptism, and highlight what it means to publicly declare faith in Christ.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Weight of a Father's Words

• The Deep Need for a Father's Blessing

  • Pastor Joby reflects on God’s words at Jesus’ baptism: “My son, in whom I am well pleased.” (00:17)

  • He shares how foundational a father’s affirmation is to children, likening it to the archetypal relationship with God (00:38):

    “All of us are yearning for that [perfect relationship]. And so a shadow of that is dad's words over you.” — Pastor Joby Martin (00:51)

  • The deep longing for the father’s blessing is contrasted with the practical reality:

    “The way we treat our kids will be the most defining thing in our children's lives as adults as to how they see God the father.” — Pastor Joby Martin (05:19)

  • Notable Story:

    • Wild Bill, one guest’s father, showed up at the airport just to clap and walk his son home after a long, tired ministry trip.

    “The number one way to be a good dad — show up, man. Presence, dude, that's incredible.” — Joby Martin (03:58)

  • Parenting Wisdom:

    • Avoid phrases like “I'm disappointed in you” as it doesn’t reflect gospel reality (06:12–06:50).
    • Focus on effort and attitude, not just achievement.

    “God's for you and so am I. We say that a lot.” — Pastor Joby Martin (06:54)

• Theological Root:

  • The desire for our dad’s approval reflects our spiritual longing for the Heavenly Father.
  • Reference to John Eldredge’s writing that everyone’s relationship with their dad shapes their adult view of God.

John the Baptist: Historical and Prophetic Significance

• Role & Identity

  • John fulfills Old Testament prophecy, coming “in the spirit of Elijah” (09:34).

  • Matthew’s Gospel links John to the Jewish audience via prophecy; Luke provides more backstory for a Gentile audience (09:34–10:28).

  • Distinctive Life:

    “There's a parenting lesson right there — don't try to dress up your kids in your clothes... They've got their own unique call on their life.” — Pastor Joby Martin (10:10)

• John’s Birth and Personhood in the Womb

  • Emphasizes that John was “full of the Spirit from birth,” using the example of John leaping in the womb as biblical evidence for life and personhood beginning at conception (12:10–13:35).

• Warning for the Church

  • Pastor Joby warns that the greatest threat to the Church comes from within:

    “The most dangerous thing to the American church right now? The American pulpit, period.” — Pastor Joby Martin (13:49)

Baptism: Meaning, Practice, & Misconceptions

• John’s vs. Jesus’s Baptism

  • John’s baptism: about repentance and preparation for the Messiah (23:48)
  • Jesus’s baptism: initiation and identification, pointing to His redemptive mission, with the exclamation point at Pentecost (23:48–24:20)

• Baptismal Practices

  • Baptism is not a requirement for salvation but commanded as public declaration for disciples (24:44–25:52).

  • Child baptism and christening are framed as parental dedication; “get baptized” when your faith is personal (27:19, 34:05).

  • On Order & Intent:

    “Order matters…get baptized.” — Joby Martin on post-belief baptism (27:18)

• ‘Work’ vs. Obedient Response

  • Any act, including baptism, must be a response to grace, not trying to earn favor (29:16–33:46).

    “If we are trying to go first, we think we are the preeminent one, and then he has to respond to us...You’re trying to earn my grace. Which means you don't get it.” — Pastor Joby Martin (30:04)

  • The same action can be worship or offense, depending on intent (31:39).

• On Repeat Baptisms

  • If initial baptism was not from sincere faith, get baptized after you truly believe (34:05).
  • On secondary baptisms (like in the Jordan River): it’s an affirmation, not diminishing the first (40:38–41:00).

Gifts and Filling of the Holy Spirit

• Spirit Baptism & Gifts

  • Immersion in the Holy Spirit happens at conversion (Ephesians 1:13–14), not in a separate “second baptism” (51:25–54:00).

  • Differentiates types of “tongues” in Scripture: actual languages (Acts), prayer language (Romans 8), and prophetic utterance (1 Corinthians).

    “What's actually evidence of the Spirit is evangelism, that you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses.” — Pastor Joby Martin (54:08)

  • All spiritual gifts are for edification, not confusion or self-centered experience (56:06–56:53).

  • Encouragement to yearn for the Spirit’s fullness and experience more of God (57:24).

    “God does have more for you. There’s more of him to experience...not so we can get more Holy Spirit, but so he can have more of us.” — Pastor Joby Martin (57:24–58:25)

Public Declaration & Commission

• Being a Disciple vs. Being a Fan

  • Attending church and appreciating sermons isn’t the same as discipleship and obedience:

    “There’s a lot of Christian adjacent people and they’re not doing the thing.” — Pastor Joby Martin (59:41)

  • Emphasizes living out the Great Commission and taking visible next steps of faith (e.g., baptism, making disciples) (60:52).

• Practical Q&A on Baptism

  • Timing: Sincerity of intent is key; public is the biblical norm, but large crowds aren’t necessary (61:12–62:01).
  • Baptism doesn’t always need to be at the church—it can happen wherever a believer professes faith (62:04–63:21).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Father’s Blessing:

  “The way we treat our kids will be the most defining thing in our children’s lives as adults as to how they see God the father.” — Pastor Joby Martin (05:19)

• On Presence over Perfection in Fatherhood:

  “The number one way to be a good dad — show up, man. Presence, dude, that's incredible.” — Pastor Joby Martin (03:58)

• On Baptism & Order:

  “Order matters…get baptized.” — Pastor Joby Martin (27:18)

• On Works vs. Worship:

  “If we are trying to go first, we think we are the preeminent one, and then he has to respond to us…You’re trying to earn my grace. Which means you don’t get it.” — Pastor Joby Martin (30:04)

• On the Role of John the Baptist:

  “There's great similarities between the life of the believer and the life of John the Baptist. John the Baptist is saying, prepare, he's coming. And we are saying, he has come and prepare, he's coming back.” — Pastor Joby Martin (19:55)

Key Timestamps

• Impact of Father's Words / Blessing: 00:17–08:59
• John the Baptist's Role & Prophecy: 09:34–15:13
• Baptism: Meaning, Practice: 23:48–34:33
• On Works vs. Response to Grace: 29:16–33:46
• Holy Spirit, Gifts, & Misconceptions: 51:25–58:25
• Public Declaration, Living as Disciples: 58:51–63:21

Episode Tone

Pastor Joby and guests maintain a conversational, honest, and sometimes humorous tone, mixing heartfelt storytelling, biblical teaching, and practical advice. The approach is direct yet pastoral, aiming to both challenge and encourage listeners in their faith and obedience.

Summary Takeaway

This episode is a passionate appeal to embrace the biblical model of both parenthood and discipleship, challenging listeners to understand the gravity of their words and actions, especially as fathers, and to step into the fullness of faith—including obedience in baptism and openness to the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist serves as a model for both bold truth-telling and humility, reminding believers both to prepare the way for Christ and to live as public witnesses for Him. If you haven’t taken the step of believer’s baptism, or if you wrestle with the meaning of Spirit-filled living, you’ll find both clarity and a heartfelt call to action in this conversation.