Celebrating The Last Pride (maybe) at TomTom!

Summary

Detox Retox with Tom Schwartz

Episode: Celebrating The Last Pride (maybe) at TomTom!
Date: June 10, 2026
Host: Tom Schwartz
Guests: Tom Sandoval, Jesse Lacey, Kyle Chan, Logan Cochran, Zach Logan, Lisa Vanderpump (call-in), Melissa, and others
Theme: Reflecting on TomTom, West Hollywood, and What Pride Means

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Episode Overview

This poignant and lively episode spotlights what might be the last Pride celebration at TomTom, the iconic West Hollywood bar co-owned by Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval. Tom Schwartz and his friends reminisce, celebrate, and get candid about what TomTom, Pride, and West Hollywood mean to them. There are stories of wild parties, cherished friendships, industry camaraderie, and heartfelt gratitude to the LGBTQ+ community that has embraced them. The future of TomTom is uncertain, but the sense of belonging and legacy feels eternal.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. TomTom’s Place in West Hollywood & Its Legacy

• Tom Schwartz announces TomTom is for sale, evoking nostalgia and some sadness but also pride in what the bar contributed to the community.
  • "TomTom is for sale. [...] It's sad, but I'm happy. We've had a hell of a run, man. TomTom is still open and it's pride.” (02:24, Tom Schwartz)
• Tom describes TomTom as more than a bar:
  • "It's like my happiest third space. Our little Central Perk, our little McLaren's Pub, our Cheers bar. Because sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name.” (04:23, Tom Schwartz)

2. Pride Memories & TomTom’s Community

• Schwartz and guests reflect on how Pride at TomTom is a time capsule for life’s highs and lows—love, heartbreak, proposals, bachelorette parties, and more.
  • "It's a time capsule for some of the best and worst moments of my life. Mostly the best." (16:44, Logan Cochran)
• Tom and friends emphasize the deep family-like bonds formed by working in hospitality, especially over busy Pride weekends.
  • "When you work at a bar or restaurant, the staff becomes your family. Am I not to get too deep here? Right? It's love and hate." (17:58, Logan Cochran)
  • "You're in the trenches with people...at the end of the shift, you realize, oh, my God, it was so chaotic. But you just look at each other and laugh and you're like, we're stronger because of it. We're closer because of it, and those are your best friends.” (19:15, Kyle Chant)

3. The Changing Nightlife Scene

• Tom and friends discuss how West Hollywood is changing, attendance is different, and running bars is harder than ever.
  • "Times are changing. People aren't going out as much. Bars change, the cast changes. The city's definitely changing. For better and maybe for worse. It's tough out there as a bar restaurant owner, I'm gonna say." (10:30, Tom Schwartz)

4. Favorite Memories and Legendary Stories

Notable Stories Include:

• OG Pride moments:
  • Kyle: "Used to, when I was a younger gay, dance on tables every Pride weekend here at TomTom. Honestly, every Pride is such a blur. It's always so crazy." (17:10, Kyle Chant)
• Bartending camaraderie and chaos.
• Celebrating the little wins (special menu items, wild parties, iconic West Hollywood moments).
• Dakota Fanning riding in the TomTom sidecar (46:10, Tom Sandoval).
• Creating inventive cocktails, like the Ghost of Mary (white Bloody Mary):
  • "I was like, I'm gonna make and create a Bloody Mary that is white. And that took a lot of time, a lot of research, and I figured it out." (42:29, Tom Sandoval)

5. West Hollywood: Home and Belonging

• Multiple guests describe West Hollywood as a place of acceptance, creativity, and freedom.
  • "No matter who you are, no matter who you want to be, you go to West Hollywood, you will be accepted." (32:05, Tom Sandoval)
  • "I feel like it's safe to take risks here. I think it's the first time I wore skinny jeans. Tom gave them to me. Do you remember?" (34:44, Jesse Lacey)
  • "We all have 50 shades of gray...You can be any shade of yourself and come to West Hollywood and feel fully, fully at home and fully welcome." (34:31, Tom Sandoval)

6. Lisa Vanderpump’s Message

• Lisa calls in to share gratitude and love with the TomTom crew, acknowledging their impact on her businesses and the LGBTQ+ community.
  • "This year Pride, it's always been such a huge thing for all of us at SIR and at TomTom. I was with you in spirit. I sent you lots and lots of love...All of it standing up for what's right. I know you're representing me there so I thank you. I love you." (14:44, Lisa Vanderpump)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On TomTom’s Future

• Andy Cohen (Guest, on TomTom’s closure):
  "We just couldn't wait to be there and just always the best vibe really emanating from the Toms...I'm gonna miss it." (01:43)
• Tom Schwartz:
  "The doors are still open, so let's not get too sappy. We'll save the sentiment, the mushy stuff for when we actually close the doors. But for now, TomTom is still open and it's pride." (02:24)

On West Hollywood’s Magic

• Jesse Lacey:
  "To me, this is a time capsule. It's so much more...It helped me come up. It helped me find my voice, my confidence, and I think it turned me into the person that I am today." (30:31)

On Community & Acceptance

• Tom Sandoval:
  "West Hollywood embraces everybody. That's what's so great about it." (33:49)

On Opening Day & Sidecar Lore

• Tom Sandoval:
  "One of the happiest things of my life, man, was, like, us just riffing one night drunk, and then, like, making that dream actually come true. Showing up in our matching white suits, our matching helmets, in a motorcycle sidecar. Dude, it was one of the coolest things ever." (37:44)

On Family & Friendship

• Zach Logan:
  "My favorite memory of TomTom is just...the family and camaraderie of, like, the bartenders. I love everybody, like, every single one of them. It's just like a second home. It's where we start the night every...It's just kind of like that Cheers thing for us." (25:33)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• TomTom’s Fate & Pride Nostalgia: [01:43–10:30]
• Lisa Vanderpump’s Message: [14:44–15:28]
• Pride Reflections & Staff Stories: [16:11–21:05]
• WeHo Memories & Bar Family: [21:36–28:00]
• Tom Sandoval on Pride, Community, and Sidecar Lore: [30:09–41:11]
• TomTom Cocktail Lore & Menu Stories: [41:41–45:14]
• West Hollywood as a Place of Acceptance: [45:39–49:47]

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Episode Takeaways

• TomTom has been a special place for many: patrons, staff, and owners alike. Even as the bar faces potential closure, its emotional impact and memories live on.
• West Hollywood stands out as a place of unparalleled acceptance, freedom, and joy.
• Pride at TomTom is not just a party—it’s about unity, chosen family, self-expression, and community support.
• The bar industry bonds are deep, often likened to family—epitomized by the TomTom staff and the wider friend group.
• What comes next for TomTom and its crew is unknown, but the episode radiates gratitude, love, and hope that the spirit of TomTom will always find a home in West Hollywood.

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End Note:
Whether or not this was truly the last Pride at TomTom, the episode stands as a loving, tipsy, candid time capsule—a true celebration of queer joy, belonging, and lifelong friendships.

Transcript

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[Tom Schwartz]

It's now time for your weekly retox with Tom Schwartz.

[Andy Cohen]

Be pride to Tom, Tom and everybody else. God, my TomTom memories are really from the early days and just being there when you first opened it and it was so fresh and new and it was so fun being there. We just couldn't wait to be there and just always the best vibe really emanating from the toms through everybody who worked there and everybody who went there and just some great times at TomTom. I'm. I'm gonna miss it. If that's what you're telling me.

[Tom Schwartz]

Andy, that is unfortunately what we're telling you. TomTom is for sale. Yeah, TomTom's for sale. I think you guys know this by now. It's sad, but I'm happy. We've had a hell of a run, man. Annie got me reminiscing. When it was fresh and new, the vibes always remained high. Remember we opened back in 2018, pulling up on the sidecar, man. Feels like it was just yesterday. I also feel like I've lived an entire lifetime since we've opened TomTom. It's a magical place, steeped in so much lore, a formative place in my life that's just been a catalyst, a spark for change. It's boosted my confidence and just elevated my entire life to the point where I am now. You're like Schwartz. Chill out. You got 5%, buddy. Well, it has 100% changed my life for the better. And the doors are still open, so let's not get too sappy. Right? We'll save the sentiment, the mushy stuff from when we actually close the doors. But for now, TomTom is still open and it's pride. Yes. Wonder closes, another opens. In this case, 188 of them. The new Vanderpump Rules hotel opening this week. Flying out Thursday with Caesars to celebrate the opening with Ken, Lisa Pandy, Jason Nicolain, the whole team at Caesars. Kiki, I'm sure a bunch of other cast members really excited. It's where the former Cromwell property was. Industrial, romantic vibes. It's kind of like their signature look. Now, don't you dare call it steampunk, because I'll tell Lisa on you. She doesn't like that steampunk. But you guys. Tom Tom FOR sale. This might be our last Pride. I don't know. I won't get too mushy, gushy, like I said. But, yeah, for now, we're still alive and well, right? It ain't over till it's over. That's what Rocky said. Our beloved little Tom Tom sitting along Santa Monica Boulevard in West Holly with the heart of the Rainbow District. I love the Rainbow District. I've had probably some of the best times of my life, and it's the place I've most frequented in Los Angeles. Route 66. Yes. Pink Pony Club. The Abbey, the Bayou Motherlode. Some of the most iconic spots. Mickey's High Tops, man, so many good times. Of course, sir. Formerly Pump, which is now part of TomTom. I will always have a very special place in my heart for the Rainbow District in West Hollywood. And I've had the great honor of getting to be a bar owner, a business owner in my favorite part of Los Angeles, West Hollywood. That's right. And you could buy it. You, me. Should we crowdsource and should we buy TomTom? What do you guys think? They tried to do it for spirit. I think it kind of fell apart. Maybe for the best. What if we crowdsource, TomTom. You guys, the listing encompasses intellectual property, social media accounts, furniture, fixtures, equipment, goodwill, proprietary operational systems. You know what I'm saying? All the ip. Why don't we do this? Listen, we've had a hell of a run and it's been a great pleasure in mine and Tom's life. Got our foot in the door and yeah, it forever changed the course of my life. We're gonna celebrate Pride this episode. I'm actually recording this after the weekend. It was an absolute hit. Love wins again. I think we still have some Pride 2026 shirts for sale if you want to buy them. Me and Logan made them. But. Yeah, man, I love Tom. Tom, it's like our little. It's like my happiest third space. Our little Central Perk, our little McLaren's Pub, our Cheers bar. Because sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if this is our last Pride. It feels that way, but just. Yeah, man. So many good memories in there. In TomTom West Hollywood, it's. It's. It's become a character in itself. Like Sir Pump, Villa Blanca, they became characters, right? Like TomTom became part of the story. It has its own personality, history, lore, big wins, some losses and like. Yeah, it just has an emotional connection to me. Everyone involved, the staff who've become family in the trenches. It's like you don't go there just to sip on a Tom fashion or a Pumptini. Snap a pic with the Sandy Schwartz kissing picture. You know, it's. It's like you go there because it means something. It's. It's. It's just steeped in so many beautiful memories, you know, I don't know. When the bar. If and when the bar is gone, one thing I'll miss the most is just connecting with people from all around the world. Hearing your guys stories. My God, the secrets you've confided in me. The beautiful moments. Love won, love lost. Promotions fall apart. Divorce parties, marriages. Bachelorette parties. I mean, you guys, I forgot to share in so many of your lives. It's a beautiful thing. I mean, for God's sakes, I help multiple people propose and. Tom. Tom. But yeah, listen, I don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe tt gets old, maybe it doesn't. Maybe next year we're all sipping pump teenies in Vegas only, but I don't know. It's been quite the lesson, right? But the times are changing. People aren't going out as much. I don't know, things change. Bars change, the cast changes. The city's definitely changing. For better and maybe for worse. It's tough out there as a bar restaurant owner, I'm gonna say, but we're gonna keep it positive. I'm not gonna cry. Too sad a song. And I want to get into it. Listen, I got everyone a little tipsy just in case it was our last Pride at TomTom. I was extra sentimental. So, yeah, maybe I poured it on a little strong, literally and figuratively. But thank you guys for just taking a moment out of this beautiful weekend Pride Month, and sharing some of your favorite stories. So, yeah, without further ado, let's riff, catch up with Kyle, Tom, Jesse Lacey, Zach Logan, who's the manager, one of the managers at TomTom, and just shoot the shit. We kept it light and sentimental and we got a little drunky. So what? What of it? We had a few Chardonnays, we had a few Vanderpump. 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[Lisa Vanderpump]

This is Lisa. Oh my God, I miss you. This year prior, it's always been such a huge thing for all of us at SIR and at TomTom. I was with you in spirit. I sent you lots and lots of love and I just thank all the incredible days, everything we've done, the laughter, the naughtiness, inappropriateness, the goodness. All of it standing up for what's right. I know you're representing me there so I thank you. I love you. I'm opening a bloody hotel so I can't be there. I'll see you very soon.

[Logan Cochran]

Logan Cochran I just watched episode two Love Island. I'm falling in love with the cast. Everyone's hating on them online. Thoughts?

[Kyle Chant]

Are we sharing?

[Logan Cochran]

What thoughts? Feelings.

[Kyle Chant]

Oh Love Island Season 8. It's the best show on television. Sorry to you.

[Logan Cochran]

Well, listen, I. Ariana looks so good on the billboard. The one in Ventura, right across the street from Casa Vega.

[Kyle Chant]

I haven't been to that one, but there's one on Sunset that I pulled over and took photos of and with the other day. She's also at all of the bus stops.

[Logan Cochran]

Is this Our last pride TomTom? First of all, I love you.

[Kyle Chant]

I love you too.

[Logan Cochran]

And you're my friend.

[Tom Sandoval]

You're my friend.

[Logan Cochran]

And I'm just worried. I don't know if I'm worried. I'm at peace. Is this our Last Pride at TomTom?

[Kyle Chant]

In my head, pride is eternal. So even if Tom Tom. The business is not at this location, I think we will. We'll find our way back here

[Tom Schwartz]

for life.

[Kyle Chant]

Pride. Pride doesn't end if TomTom bends.

[Logan Cochran]

So poignant because it's so much more than a bar restaurant. It's a time capsule for some of the best and worst moments of my life. Mostly the best. And a lot of those were amplified because of you. Wait, can I ask you a question that I've never asked you before? Even though you did my podcast and you were lovely. Rave reviews. Favorite moments at TomTom Pride Edition.

[Kyle Chant]

I used to, when I was a. A younger gay, dance on tables every Pride weekend here at TomTom. Honestly, every Pride is such a blur. It's always so crazy. I'd also like to, because I don't. I didn't hear you mention this. We're in the back alley of TomTom right now in a U Haul truck. And whose U Haul is this?

[Logan Cochran]

I was at Foxfire, which is another Vanderpump staple. A lot of things happened there. We were outside smoking a cigarette, and he goes, he was from Texas. He goes, listen, in Texas, we don't have U Hauls. We have y' all halls.

[Kyle Chant]

Okay, but whose truck is this?

[Logan Cochran]

This is my favorite podcast.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochran]

Wait.

[Jesse Lacey]

When you work at a bar or

[Logan Cochran]

restaurant, the staff becomes your family. Am I not to get too deep here? Right? It's love and hate.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochran]

You don't.

[Jesse Lacey]

We're not gonna.

[Logan Cochran]

But like, right? Are you gonna.

[Jesse Lacey]

I'm kind of sad.

[Logan Cochran]

This feels like the end of an era.

[Jesse Lacey]

I know. It will live on.

[Logan Cochran]

It's a time capsule. It's on tv. Our memories, our brains. Like it'll live on forever. What are you going to miss most? If this is the Last Pride at TomTom,

[Kyle Chant]

if this is the last Pride of TomTom, I will miss spending these long ass days with in such close, tight quarters with some of the best people I've ever met, you included. But we have the best staff here, and if this is our last pride together, that will be devastating for me. But I also think we'll look back on this time so, so f fondly with such pride.

[Tom Schwartz]

Beautifully stated.

[Logan Cochran]

For people who have never worked in a restaurant. I know we touched on this. Can you explain what it's like and how it's like you commiserate, you bond not over your misery, but it's like being in the customer service industry is grating, it's draining. It's fulfilling, too, and I love it. Can you explain for someone who's never worked in a restaurant, why you trauma bond with your coworker so much?

[Kyle Chant]

I think it is. It's so much fun, and I think that's a lot of the appeal and the draw. But there are moments where it just gets to be so chaotic and so crazy, and you are in the trenches with people and you are, like. You're, like, down bad, and you've got nine tables and you don't know what the is going on, but. And you say to people around you who you love normally, and you. You're cursing at them because you're, like, pissed off because your table's pissed off at you, because the kitchen is taking too long, the food's taking too long, the drinks are taking too long, and it's. It is very traumatic and it's humiliating at times, but those are. Those are the moments that, like, first of all, make you grow. But also at the end of the shift, after everything is said and done, it's all just, like, burgers and fries and if you're at TomTom, some cocktails as well. But it's, like, not the end of the world. And then at the end of the shift, you realize, oh, my God, it was so chaotic. But you just look at each other and laugh and you're like, we're stronger because of it. We're closer because of it, and those are your best friends.

[Logan Cochran]

I know I already asked you this earlier, and you're like, don't put me on the spot, but can you ask me or can you ask me? Did I just say, can you ask me?

[Jesse Lacey]

You did.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait, favorite. Just, like, favorite off the top of your head.

[Logan Cochran]

Favorite TomTom moments. Doesn't have to be Pride Edition.

[Jesse Lacey]

Okay?

[Tom Schwartz]

Just, like, something sweet.

[Kyle Chant]

I think we're about to get in trouble for being in this U haul right now.

[Zach Logan]

We are so trouble.

[Kyle Chant]

We are about to get in trouble. I Think we are getting in trouble.

[Logan Cochran]

Okay, that's an easy out then. Logan, I love you.

[Jesse Lacey]

I appreciate you. Oh, sorry, bro. Sorry.

[Zach Logan]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochran]

I'm sorry, bro.

[Satan]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lacey]

All right, we got to go. We just got in trouble. Love you guys.

[Sandy]

Sam,

[Jesse Lacey]

Lacey, favorite moments, favorite memories. TomTom West Hollywood. Could be our last one.

[Melissa]

Melissa's birthday. Best day ever. We had Sunday Funday. I bonded with Brittany and we ate goat cheese balls.

[Satan]

So Jesse, Lally from the Valley here with Lacey, soon to be Lally from the Valley. My best moment of gay pride was I, believe it or not, not many people know that. I used to be a bar back at here Lounge, now part of the Abbey. And my first ever pride. I had a gold sarong, see through mesh sarong, body painted with stars. And the amount of love I got on my chest at the time was amazing. I've been back every single year. I've been back with Isabella, my daughter. Take her down for the parade every single year. And for the last few years, we always end pride parade with Tom.

[Jesse Lacey]

Tom, do you know working at. Working at the Abbey is a rite of passage? I feel like Jax worked at the Abbey. Any Abby stories that you can tell that aren't too.

[Melissa]

Yes. So I used to be a gay icon. I lived with my gay best friend for 10 years.

[Jesse Lacey]

Used to be you still are.

[Melissa]

Still am. And we used to go to the Abbey every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday night. We would all pool our money together and get a table because we were bougie. And I'm not going to lie, I've been roofied a few times there, but

[Tom Sandoval]

it was worth it, you guys.

[Jesse Lacey]

Jesse, do you think people actually get roofied or. The drinks are just really strong at the Abbey.

[Satan]

I mean, I roofie myself at the Abbey every time I go. Just for the. For the opportunity to maybe have a fun night. But I will tell you my favorite Abbey story first. Move to LA first week. My best friend was a waiter at the Abbey. I picked him up at. Picked him up on a Sunday brunch. And he was in the backseat counting out like $1,000 in tips. This is 2007. And I was like, shit, maybe I should work at the Abbey. Then I got a job at Here Lounge. Next thing you know, I'm body painted and. And, yeah, the rest is history.

[Melissa]

She is here.

[Jesse Lacey]

Sheena's here. All right, you guys. Thank you. I love you. Thank you for doing this. It's a little audio diary for myself. Thank you, guys.

[Tom Schwartz]

Love you.

[Jesse Lacey]

Everyone's been. It's a rite of passage. Just like, bartending, philanthropic mom.

[Melissa]

Don't air the.

[Tom Sandoval]

Okay.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yes. Love you guys.

[Kyle Chant]

All right.

[Logan Cochran]

Back.

[Jesse Lacey]

By the way, TomTom, back alley, underrated. A lot of lore here there.

[Zach Logan]

It's so underrated. And also, I don't think people realize that they built out, like, a deck and a stage during COVID And so we would go outside of TomTom, and then we could go into the adjoining bar at Beaches, and we would just like, constantly go back and forth. It was so much fun.

[Jesse Lacey]

We Ho's the best place in la. I will die on that hill. Although we live in the Valley now. We're on the Valley. I'm.

[Zach Logan]

I will die in WeHo, period, at some point. So, yes, agreed.

[Jesse Lacey]

Zach, if I die prematurely, will you spread my ashes around the strip in weho?

[Zach Logan]

I'll do it at the Bayou. I'll just. Straight at the Bayou.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I'll.

[Zach Logan]

I'll make it into the jello shots and then give it to people.

[Jesse Lacey]

You have officially been on my podcast more than anyone else. I love you. It's. You're one of my best friends in the world. Can you tell me. I know. I don't want to put you on the spot and ruin your vibe because, you guys, it's Sunday. It's our last Pride favorite memories. Tom Tom doesn't have to be be Pride. At least Pride adjacent.

[Zach Logan]

Yeah, they can all tell it's the third day of Pride because my voice right now is very third day pride. My favorite memory of TomTom is just. It's actually the family and camaraderie of, like, the bartenders. I love everybody, like, every single one of them. And, like, one of our best friends, Mindy, was a bartender for years. And, like, we. It's just like. It's like a second home. It's where we start the night every. It's. It's just kind of like that cheers thing for us, you know what I mean? My favorite memory, like, literally, opening day was so much fun. I was here on opening day with y', all, and I'll be here on closing day, even. You know, hopefully it's a little bit longer. But you know what? This just opens it up for us to do our own Pride party in WeHo from now on.

[Jesse Lacey]

I thought you were gonna say it

[Tom Schwartz]

opens us up to open our own

[Jesse Lacey]

bar in we ho.

[Zach Logan]

No, especially not with our names.

[Jesse Lacey]

Zach, I love you. You've been such a supportive. You've been a formative person. This has been a formative place for me. I grew into the man I am Today because of TomTom, I was a little bit of a before this place, to be honest.

[Zach Logan]

I mean, I think you still a little bit are. But that's okay. You're trying and that's what matters. All right.

[Jesse Lacey]

I don't know if I wanted to go there, but you're drinking a cocktail right now. It's delicious, it's well balanced. How would you rate my cocktail making skills?

[Zach Logan]

I will say you are the worst cocktail maker that's ever existed. 0, negative 5. I don't even know. But they do get you fucked up. But also you. For some reason, out of all that, you can't make a vodka cranberry. But for some reason, you can make an espresso martini. It is the only thing you make well. But you do make it well. So I will give you that.

[Jesse Lacey]

They call that a paradox.

[Zach Logan]

They call that just fucking insane, that that's what you do well.

[Jesse Lacey]

Zach, I love you. I just wanted to snip it because this is a time capsule in case this is our last pride here. I love you.

[Zach Logan]

I love you more.

[Jesse Lacey]

Love you, brother. Wait, by the way, just for the fans, is there any furniture in your apartment yet?

[Zach Logan]

Oh, wow. You're gonna say I don't have any furniture.

[Jesse Lacey]

Did you get a sponsorship deal with Monster?

[Zach Logan]

Not yet. I'm sure they'll call, though. I've had literally so many people send me Monster fridges. Like, say, here, I'll send you this one. And one lady sent me an ebay listing and was like, I will buy this for you. And it was like, $1,300. I was like, ma', am, no, please.

[Jesse Lacey]

All right. I love you, brother.

[Zach Logan]

Love you.

[Jesse Lacey]

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[Sandy]

satan, T. Sandy, Kyle Chant.

[Jesse Lacey]

Two of my favorite human beings on planet Earth. I love you guys, your family. It's probably our Last Pride at TomTom West Hollywood. How you feeling?

[Tom Sandoval]

I'm feeling good, man. By the way, it's great to see you. It's great to be here. I haven't been to a bride. It just worked out that I haven't been able to come to bride because of filming House of Villains. And I think it was traitors or something. I had something going on. This is my first bride in two years.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I feel great. I think TomTom might be gone, but all of our spirit will still be

[Jesse Lacey]

here and we'll haunt it, but in a positive way, right? To me, this is a time capsule. It's so much more. Dude, I was talking about this earlier with Zach. This was a formative experience for me, Tom. You witnessed it in real time. It helped me come up. It helped me find my voice, my confidence, and I think it turned me into the person that I am today.

[Tom Sandoval]

All of our experiences have turned us into the people we are today. The good, the bad, the ugly, the amazing, the highs, the lows. It makes us who exactly we are today and exactly why we are here right now.

[Jesse Lacey]

Dude, this has been one of the. I have some of the best memories of my entire life here with you and Kyle. And I don't say that lightly.

[Tom Sandoval]

I do not say likewise 100%. Dude, there's been so many experiences. I mean, I remember, like, experiencing my first pride at sur. Then I also remember, like, I remember, like, when, you know, the Pulse nightclub shooting happened and, like, all of us were so afraid to come. There was somebody that was stopped with rifles in their car. Like, it was so heavy and so unbelievable. Like, but we had to show up. We had to do it. And you know who led by example. And I will always appreciate her for this. Lisa. Lisa led by example by showing up. And I was so proud of her, you know, and. And so proud to be there because of all the oppression and all the things that happen for people just wanting to be themselves, this is why we are here and this is why we're in the best air. Like West Hollywood is always popping and it's always popping with positivity, excitement, happiness. It's a place of acceptance. And no matter who you are, no matter who you want to be, you go to West Hollywood, you will be accepted.

[Jesse Lacey]

The Pink Pony Club. You could be whoever you want to be in the, in the most radical, fabulous fucking way ever here.

[Tom Sandoval]

I agree.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I love the Pain Pony Club.

[Jesse Lacey]

Tom. West Hollywood. Without West Hollywood, I don't think I would be the person, the man I am today. What are you going to miss most if this is our last pride? Not to ask you a stock question,

[Tom Sandoval]

you know what I think I would miss? Maybe a place that, like, we can walk in and call home. But you know what, at the end of the day, like at the end of the day we can walk in anywhere here and call it home. We feel at home here. So it doesn't matter, like whether TomTom closes, gets sold. Whatever happens, we'll always walk here and feel at home. I come here and I say, like on a random Tuesday, if I'm here, I walk by any place and I know 10 people at least. You know, I walk into every place, I know everybody there. Like we're always at home here. Yep.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I don't think, I don't think TomTom's closure represent the. Wait, your question was what would happen if this last pride. I think the spirit would live on for sure.

[Jesse Lacey]

Kyle, you just said it so poignantly and so perfectly. By the way, unlike Schwartz and Sandy's, which is a whole other thing. I love shorts and Sandy's, but the neighborhood didn't embrace. West Hollywood embraced us.

[Tom Sandoval]

They really did. West Hollywood has fully embraced because West Hollywood embraces everybody. That's what's so great about it.

[Jesse Lacey]

Sorry I got excited.

[Tom Sandoval]

I mean, it doesn't matter. Everything from classy to trashy, like, I'm sorry, that's a cocktail book plug. But like, for real, like you can be, you can, you can, you can be as whatever you want to be here and be fully accepted and actually appreciate it.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I agree.

[Jesse Lacey]

I've never felt more myself that I'm in. When I'm, when I'm in West Hollywood, I feel like the full essence of myself. We're both straight, but I don't know what it is I love. I just, I feel so honored to be a part of the community and be a Brisbane.

[Tom Sandoval]

We all have 50 shades of gray. We do. We all have 50 shades of ourselves. You can. You can be any shade of yourself and come to West Hollywood and feel fully, fully at home and fully welcome.

[Zach Logan]

I love.

[Jesse Lacey]

You know, I feel like it's safe to take risks here. Like, I think it's the first time I wore skinny jeans. Tom gave them to me. Do you remember when you first gave me my first pair of skinny jeans? I wore them in West Hollywood, dude.

[Tom Sandoval]

They were. When I first met you, you had no pants that didn't have holes in them. So I had to give you a pair of, like, good, actually, like, classy jeans because all your jeans not only had holes in them, but they had holes that, like, you. When I could tell, I could tell right away that you had been putting them on and putting your foot through the hole and. And pushing the hole fully open down, like, to your ankle. I could tell. See?

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

So I think this is the best place to be when you're a little bit not sure of your fashion choice and then you wanted to experience something like sassy, something sexy and you're too shy to wear in front of all of your straight friends. You come to West Hollywood and go all out.

[Tom Sandoval]

I mean, Brock just showed up in as a pink Cuban Pete.

[Jesse Lacey]

Dude. Was. Wait, was that of the mask reference?

[Tom Sandoval]

Yeah. I mean, did he look, he's wearing a full blown pink Cuban Pete.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Like, it's like a tutu top, tutu top, tutu pants.

[Tom Sandoval]

It's like a. It's a fluffy, like, pants, fluffy top. It's basically like, imagine the mask. Cuban beat.

[Jesse Lacey]

His name is Cuban Pete Sandoval. You had a billboard for the jeans. What was the name of the jeans brand that you gave me?

[Tom Sandoval]

Rockin Republic.

[Jesse Lacey]

You gave me my first pair of skinny jeans. Rockin Republic. Was it on sand? It was on.

[Tom Sandoval]

It was literally right here. It was right here. It was on.

[Jesse Lacey]

It was on La Cienega and Santa Monica. Next to the cvs.

[Tom Sandoval]

Yes. Yeah, it really was. I. It was. It was my face on the billboard. It was crazy.

[Jesse Lacey]

That was before Vanderbump rules.

[Tom Sandoval]

It was before Vanderbump.

[Jesse Lacey]

Was that Via D? Was that Via D models?

[Tom Sandoval]

No, that was not via these models. That was photogenics. But what one thing I do.

[Jesse Lacey]

Sorry. Oh, yeah. Hi. Hey, guys. Oh. Oh, sorry, you guys. We're doing this live right now. They're trying to get the trash out. Oh, somebody upset.

[Tom Sandoval]

Hey.

[Tom Schwartz]

Hi.

[Jesse Lacey]

All right, let's run. We'll wrap it up.

[Tom Sandoval]

No, we're not.

[Jesse Lacey]

Wait, Tom, favorite memory.

[Tom Sandoval]

My Top of your head. Favorite memory that took place in West Hollywood. And especially with Tom. Tom. Dude, I'll never forget manual riffin how to make an entrance and how to, like, show up to our first, like, opening of our first place. Dude, I'll never forget the word motorcycle sidecar got brought up, and I literally. I you plan. That's the one thing about us, Schwartz. You plant a seed in my head. We plant a seed in each other's head. We make it happen. Dude, I literally flew somebody while we're filming the show to Miami to buy this motorcycle sidecar on set. It didn't run. This guy got it on a truck, got it back to, like, la. Then it, like, fully got stripped down, painted, created the logo. The lightning bolt.

[Jesse Lacey]

The lightning bought the side car in Miami, right?

[Tom Sandoval]

Huh? Yes, but so I had it flown back and I created the logo, which was. Was. Was a circle. It was the two T's circle that represented unity and the lightning bolt, which represented lightning in a bottle. The chance meeting of me and you on Craigslist, dude, I'll never forget it. One of the most happiest things of my life, man, was, like, us just riffing one night drunk, and then, like, making that dream actually come true. Showing up in our matching white suits, our matching gloves, our matching helmets in a motor motorcycle motherfucking sidecar. Dude, it was one of the coolest things ever. I mean, dude, I'm, like, literally getting really emotional thinking about it. It was. And you know what? I had speakers installed so I could play. So I could play.

[Jesse Lacey]

Don't say it. It's not my favorite movie.

[Tom Sandoval]

I know it's not your favorite movie,

[Jesse Lacey]

but, like, to tell the audience what their references.

[Tom Sandoval]

Varsity Blues Hero by Foo Fighters. First motherfucking song I played. He's like, there's speakers on this thing. I'm like, yes, there are speakers on this thing for a specific reason. So I could play this motherfucking song.

[Jesse Lacey]

Tom, do you remember Best friend? We've had so many prides here since we. Do you remember almost dying from heat when we were riding in the. During the parade. We did a parade in the sidecar.

[Tom Sandoval]

I had blisters in my hand. So I decided to do the motorcycle sidecar in the parade. And it's like stop and go. This is a clutch, you know? I mean, it's like driving a clutch like a car, you know? I mean, anybody who's ever driven a motorcycle.

[Jesse Lacey]

Can you explain it?

[Tom Sandoval]

So. So for any. Everybody who drives a motorcycle knows this, but essentially you, You. You have Gears, you have to shift. You have to hold down the clutch and you have to shift and, and gas it and go. And literally, like, it's gassing and going. Gassing and going. Foot on the clutch. Gas or sorry, hand on the clutch. Gassing and going. And it's like, dude, my hands were fully blistered by the end of it. But it was so worth it. It was so amazing. Everybody loved it. Dude, we. I feel like the motorcycle sidecar is a symbol of not only us, where we came from, where we started, and how dreams can happen with me and you, man. And how chance meetings on Craigslist can turn into something so huge. And you know what, dude? Literally the other day, literally the other day I was actually, I was talking to Richard Hatch because I just shot the Weakest Link with him and he was like, you know what, man? He's like, I watched a show and he's like, the one thing that myself and everybody connects to is. Is Ewan Schwartz. He's like, the fact that, like, you guys are two straight dudes that, like, can fucking, like, be open with their emotions and accept each other, hug each other, cry together, do everything, feel safe and not like, in a. In a self conscious way, but just fully be open and like, he's like, it's really inspiring. It's been. It's great to watch. And you know what, Shorts, I'll be honest with you. I can't wait for, like, us to, like, be on camera again. Like, it will happen someday.

[Jesse Lacey]

Me too. Hashtag. Me too. That was a jax reference.

[Tom Sandoval]

Oh, God.

[Jesse Lacey]

Not funny. Not funny.

[Tom Sandoval]

No, it's funny because he doesn't know what me too means. So, like, somebody will be like, jax. It was so funny when he said that. It was on the reunion. He was like, yeah, he does now, by the way. Yeah, he'll be like, oh, I agree with that. Hashtag, me too. You're like, dude, that's not what that means.

[Jesse Lacey]

That's the beauty. That's a Jackson.

[Logan Cochran]

I know.

[Tom Sandoval]

Kyle, wait, put a camera on this guy. Please put a camera on this guy.

[Jesse Lacey]

Casey, what are you gonna miss the most if TomTom, if it's our last pride.

[Tom Sandoval]

I miss.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

I miss the. The Sliders.

[Jesse Lacey]

The Ken Sliders.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Oh, that's Ken Sliders. I didn't know that. I missed it. I missed the Sliders. I miss everybody here.

[Jesse Lacey]

Tom, do you remember the Gourmet. What do we call them?

[Tom Sandoval]

Oh, the Gourmet crunchwrap Supreme. That was originally on the menu here.

[Jesse Lacey]

That was. That was Tom's how do you say homage?

[Tom Sandoval]

The Taco Bell. I love a Crunchwrap Supreme.

[Jesse Lacey]

In my opinion, the best thing we ever had on the menu. They took it off because no one bought it.

[Tom Sandoval]

I know people were scared of it.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

They took the Daddy Diablo.

[Tom Sandoval]

Oh, oh, the Daddy Diablo with the buzz buttons. Buzz buttons.

[Jesse Lacey]

Sandoval. Say on this note, I don't know if I'm proud of a lot of things in my life, but our cocktail menu. We put our heart and soul, Kyle. We put our heart and soul. We were in the laboratory in the kitchen five days a week for months. And listen, as time went on, it wasn't always practical to keep our. But dude, at one point, I'm telling you, it was one of the best cocktail menus I've ever had in my life. Tom, can you tell them about the Ghost of Mary or no. Is that secret?

[Tom Sandoval]

No, no, of course not. So, like, one of my favorite, one of my favorite drinks I ever created. And this came from a concept. It was. I'm gonna do. I wanna, I wanna tell you the easiest way and trashiest way to make a Bloody Mary, and also the most classiest and coolest way to make a Bloody Mary. And I had this idea. I was like, I'm gonna make and create a Bloody Mary that is white. And that took a lot of time, a lot of research, and I figured it out.

[Jesse Lacey]

So people, how do you make a white Bloody Mary?

[Tom Sandoval]

So this is what you do. You put all the ingredients in there. You could do green. Yes, yes. Kyle. Kyle just. Kyle just said a jerking off. This is how you do it. So what you do is you use the arugula, you put the old bay, you put all the spices in there. You use, you can use yellow tomatoes, green tomatoes, all those things. And you, you make the Bloody Mary mix, right? Yeah. And then you freeze it, right? You freeze the Bloody Mary mix, then you let it strain. You let it strain. And all the water that comes out brings none of the color, but all of the flavor. Yes. Wow.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yes, it's very tedious. And yeah, it's. It's labor some, but it's worth it.

[Tom Sandoval]

Guess what? My, my friend was in Montana, A really good friend of mine, Ross Kelly, who, Who produced the tip video, he was in Montana.

[Jesse Lacey]

For the people who don't remember, touch

[Tom Sandoval]

in public, Charles McMansion. So he, he was in Montana. Whitefish Montana. He went to a bar there and guess what? They had the Ghost of Mary on the menu. And it was my recipe. Yes.

[Jesse Lacey]

Dude, you know what? One of my favorite memories Was me and you finding the chef pairing menu. And we put them. We put melon, cantaloupe, cinnamon, vanilla, and honey. Dude, we made some of the best cocktails I've ever had in my life.

[Tom Sandoval]

I knew that it would go together so well. It went. I haven't made that drink in a really long time. Dude, I haven't made that drink in a long time. Also, just so you guys know, you can make a bloody Mary very easily. If you are in your dorm room right now and your roommate is gone, and you pull an empty water bottle out that's got the lines at the bottom, you know, like the. You know, the Kroger brand or whatever. Like. So what you do is you fill it up to the first line with water or. Sorry, fill up to the first line with vodka. That's two ounces. Fill it up to the second line, that's one ounce with water. Three ketchup packets, two cholula packets. Then you put the bottle cap back on. You shake it, you put it over ice, pull out a pepper packet, pour it over it, dump it over ice. You can add a little bit of tabasco if you want, but that is actually a damn good bloody Mary.

[Jesse Lacey]

I remember you gave me a taste of it. It's actually delicious.

[Tom Sandoval]

You know how I tested it? You know how I test was I made these drinks. I made also a drink out of taco bell sauce packets. But I made these drinks and I would, like, bottle them and I would pour them into a glass and like, dress it up. And I'd be like, what do you think? Damn, that's a good bloody Mary. And I'm like, you know what that was made out of? You want to show you what just happened? And I'd show them the video of me making it.

[Jesse Lacey]

Kyle, you are someone who's made me appreciate craftsmanship. Artist, Artistry.

[Tom Sandoval]

Yes.

[Jesse Lacey]

On the street, when you come into Kyle Chan's store, if. Well, let's not go there. But in my opinion, you make the best old fashioned of all time. Wait, one last thing. Favorite memories? Favorite. No. Favorite number one. Favorite memory. TomTom.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Favorite memory of tomtom's probably the sidecar.

[Tom Sandoval]

We go around.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

And then I met Dakota Fanning and I accidentally thought she was someone else.

[Tom Sandoval]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Dakota Fanning rode on my motorcycle sidecar. I'll send you a clip of it. But, dude, it was so amazing. She had so much fun. Her mind, she was so lit up. By the way, I do want to give. I got to give a shout out to Kyle Chan. This guy is a fucking legend. He's not only an amazing jewelry designer who's had a story in everything. Like, literally everybody think of a person. Like literally put a, put a, put a wall of celebrities, throw a dart at it. Like, he's made jewelry for that person. And he's such an amazing human being. Guy is self made and also like encompasses what is so great about West Hollywood. Like Kyle, like we met at Pomp, I think I was actually like, yeah, we met at pump fuck 14 years ago. And Kyle has just been such an amazing light in both of our lives. And just, he's the kind of person that keeps you grounded but like also bumps you up. And like, I don't know. Kyle, you're. You're such an awesome dude and I'm honored to know you.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Thank you, thank you. It takes one to know one.

[Tom Sandoval]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Yeah. You two are super amazing also. You guys are loyal and genuine. And when I first met you guys, I really go, these are the friends that I wanted for a lifetime.

[Jesse Lacey]

Even though we're a liability sometimes, we love you. You stuck by our side through thick and thin. What are you talking about? No, not Sandoval. Me.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Sandoval needs PR training. I think his rebellious personality got him in trouble, but at least he's truthful.

[Jesse Lacey]

At least. Yeah. Speaks from the heart. Wait, I don't want to kill the vibe. I love you guys. Let's, let's, let's go back in.

[Tom Sandoval]

Yeah, let's. You know what, we could talk about this all day. The festival's going on right now. Everybody's having drinks. Everybody's having a great time. I love it. That's the great thing about West Hollywood and Bride. Like, you know, we run into like that, like there's the cast here from the Valley, there's people here from Vanderbump Rules. We're all just having a great time. Yeah.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

If you guys don't see us next year at TomTom, I'm pretty sure you'll find us in Mass Hollywood somewhere.

[Jesse Lacey]

You'll find us at the Bayou probably.

[Tom Sandoval]

At least we should go to the Bayou and grab some jello shots.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Bayou for jello shot?

[Jesse Lacey]

Yeah, Bayou jello shots.

[Tom Sandoval]

Hey, by the way, if you're in West Hollywood though, you do got to go by fucking Kyle Chan store and oh my gosh, it's such an experience. The guy is the most like eclectic. Like, like collection of whiskeys, scotches, everything. And he also makes amazing cocktails. And then that's on top of his amazing jewelry design. Just go by, get the experience. I'm sorry. I'm trying. I'm not trying. I'm just like, really like. I've never experienced anything like it before. It's really fucking cool.

[Jesse Lacey]

Also, again, just to leave on the West Hollywood. No pride. The best place to be whoever you want to be. Pink Pony Club. Right. You can be whoever you.

[Tom Sandoval]

Exactly it. That's why that song is so, like, everybody connects to that. Because you can be exactly whoever you want to be on even that day in that moment.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

That's right. If you're not happy or you're having some sort of situation situationship, you can always come to West Hollywood, dress, put on the outfit that you've always want to put on and just come and have fun.

[Tom Sandoval]

Or just put on some fucking basketball shorts. Either way you want will be celebrated and appreciated.

[Jesse Lacey]

Yes. Come to WeHo. Love Pride. Let your freak flag fly in the most sweet way. I don't mean that condescendingly or. Yeah. Anyways, you guys, thank you.

[Tom Sandoval]

Love you, Schwartz.

[Jesse Lacey]

Love you, Sandoval.

[Unknown Guest (possibly a friend or regular at TomTom)]

Love you all.

[Tom Sandoval]

Love you, Kyle. Love you, Kyle.

[Jesse Lacey]

All right, let's go back in.

[Tom Sandoval]

Retoxification complete.