Hanging Out with Peter Madrigal In The Iconic Back Alley of SUR

Summary

Detox Retox with Tom Schwartz

Episode: Hanging Out with Peter Madrigal In The Iconic Back Alley of SUR

Date: September 30, 2025
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Episode Overview

This episode of Detox Retox with Tom Schwartz is a laid-back, boozy, love letter to the hospitality industry—especially to the crews working the legendary West Hollywood spots TomTom and SUR. Joined by fellow Vanderpump Rules legends Peter Madrigal (manager at SUR) and Logan Cochrane (manager at TomTom), Schwartz embarks on a “wellness check” for his friends and the LA restaurant scene, capturing the human side, chaos, and camaraderie of bar life. It’s a nostalgic, meandering, and entertaining reflection—equal parts burnout confessional and hilarious reminiscence—set in the iconic back alley of SUR.

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Main Themes

• Camaraderie and Chaos in Hospitality: A celebration (and an honest critique) of life in the restaurant/bar world.
• Wellness and Burnout: How hospitality professionals cope with stress, late nights, and industry pressures.
• Reflecting on Vanderpump Rules: Stories and legacy from the show; dealing with fame's impact on daily restaurant operations.
• Personal Projects and Growth: Updates on side hustles and future plans from the cast.
• Customer Stories & Encounters: Funny and surreal moments working with celebrity guests and diehard fans.

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Segment Breakdown & Key Insights

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1. Introduction and Framing (00:00–02:25)

• Schwartz sets the tone: this episode is more relaxed and less structured, with candid bar chat among old friends.
• Reflects on the duality of restaurant work—draining yet rewarding.

“This episode is a love letter to anyone who’s ever worked in the business. …It’s a strange ass carnival. Honestly, it’s a bit of a freak show, and I mean that in the most loving way possible.”
— Tom Schwartz (02:27)

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2. The Realities (and Romance) of Restaurant Life (02:25–09:54)

• Schwartz gets philosophical about serving—empathy, missed birthdays, nocturnal life, financial highs, and emotional lows.
• Romanticizes the camaraderie—“the proximity clause,” dating and bonding with coworkers (through smoke breaks or just knowing glances).
• Points out front-of-house glory vs underappreciated cooks/chefs.
• On addictive, chaotic rhythms: “There’s some sort of poetry in it. …Chaotic, intoxicating. Poetry of some sort.” (06:09–06:10, 07:00)

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3. Wellness Check at TomTom: Chat with Logan Cochrane (11:19–36:41)

Life as a Manager at a Tourist Mecca

• Logan recounts the impact of COVID, industry struggles, and resilience in the team.
• Unique environment: 91% of TomTom’s reservations are out-of-towners and fans seeking VPR magic.
• Tourist/fan dynamic: “If they don’t say it explicitly, you’ll see them coming and they kind of have a wandering eye, just like looking to see, ‘Is Tom Schwartz here?’” — Logan Cochrane (16:31)
• Handling awkward phases (e.g., post-Scandoval drama) with grace, compartmentalizing personal life and work.

Camaraderie and Staff Culture

• Staff described as family: creative, artistic, supportive.
• “My family.” — Logan (21:56)
• Schwartz praises Logan for never being irritable, which Logan credits to tight-knit, long-term staff.

Celebrity Sightings and Fan Encounters

• Kelly Clarkson, Eve, Miley Cyrus stories—celebrities dancing on tables, fans looking for recreations of iconic moments.
• Managing fan intensity and overindulgence when stars are present.

Industry Burnout and Coping

• Logan avoids burnout by running, being mindful not to get “sucked up into the culture.”
• “I work at a bar. That doesn’t mean I want to spend every hour at a bar.” (33:49)
• Hospitality workers’ unconventional schedules strain social lives and sometimes leave them out of friends’ plans.

Light Banter and Favorites

• Best drinks: Clockwork Pink (Logan), Nutcase (Schwartz).
• Best food: Cauliflower wings, hot honey pepperoni flatbread.
• Celeb crushes, including cartoon crushes and inside jokes.

Key Quotes

“There’s a camaraderie. …You become family with them. And I’m proud to say that we have some of the best employees in the world.” – Tom Schwartz (09:54)
“It kind of feels like a puzzle you will never finish.” – Logan (32:08)

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4. Legendary Back Alley Chat with Peter Madrigal (37:00–88:31)

The SUR Origin Story

• Peter recounts joining SUR in 2008, starting as a busser, being promoted to manager, and living the pre-show life.
• “When I started working at Sur Restaurant… it meant ‘south’. And then as we got on Vanderpump Rules… it became ‘Sexy Unique Restaurant.’” – Peter (41:11)

Vanderpump Rules: Legacy and Behind-the-Scenes

• Early cast camaraderie, legitimate friendships, and why the show felt authentic.
• Managing friends as employees is “like being Switzerland”—blurry lines when close with staff.

Working with Vanderpump Icons

• Highest respect for Lisa Vanderpump as matriarch and mentor:
  “If you’re going to go after Lisa… that’s the line you don’t cross for me.” – Peter (60:21)
• Funny and candid stories about Jax and Sandoval:
  “Jax was a great employee, terrible bartender. Tom Sandoval, great bartender, terrible employee… If you merge Tom and Jax together, they form the best bartender.” – Peter (53:22)

Handling Burnout, Fame, and Thousands of Selfies

• Over a decade at SUR: Peter estimates 67,000+ selfies taken with fans (68:13)
• “How do you avoid being jaded? …It’s not in my DNA. I’m not jaded, I’m not salty, and I’m not impatient.” – Peter (68:24)
• Peter credits discipline (waking at 5:30am), exercise, and gratitude for never burning out.

Current Endeavors and Side Projects

• Teases a new utility coin (crypto project), upcoming “RealityNetwork” TV content, and his own show “Outside the Rules” (his life, wine, adventures).
• “I just want to build something. I want to build something else. …I’ve built a few different companies.” – Peter (73:11)

Notable Banter and Audience Interactions

• Multiple friendly fan interruptions in the alley—Peter is gracious with every group.
• Joking contests over who has the better goat cheese balls, TomTom or SUR.

Iconic Quotes and Moments

• “Adventures in adult babysitting. That was me every night.” – Peter (80:11)
• Audience favorite VPR quotes:
  • “It’s my birthday!” – Stassi
  • “It’s not about the pasta!” – Schwartz/Peter (85:13)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Schwartz on the service industry’s ‘shared hell’:

  “Maybe it’s forged with a smoke, a cigarette break out back. Even if you don’t smoke, you need a cigarette. …A knowing glance that communicates a special type of hell that only you know if you’ve ever worked in this business.” (02:27, 02:54)

• Peter on management and empathy:

  “It’s adult babysitting… To this day!” (80:11)

• On Lisa Vanderpump’s influence:

  “You do not come for the queen. …When it comes to our public life, it’s Lisa Vanderpump and Ken Todd.” – Peter (60:02)

• On gratitude for the journey:

  “Would I change some things? Maybe, little things. But for the most part, I am insanely grateful for everything…” – Peter (71:08)

• On industry burnout:

  “Take some time for yourself. Go see Beyoncé if you can.” – Logan (34:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• (00:00–02:25) — Introduction: The episode’s purpose and setup; love letter to hospitality staff.
• (11:19–36:41) — Deep dive: Tom Schwartz and Logan Cochrane on burnout, staff culture, fan encounters.
• (37:00–88:31) — In the SUR alley: Schwartz and Peter Madrigal with stories from the trenches, career recollections, dealing with fame, personal growth, and wild audience/fan interactions.
• (85:00–88:31) — Audience call-outs, iconic ‘Vanderpump’ quotes, manager stories, and favorite SUR/TomTom menu items.

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Tone and Style

Candid, self-deprecating, nostalgic, and irreverent. The whole episode is a mix of heartfelt gratitude and playful self-mockery, with plenty of inside jokes, boozy banter, and camaraderie. Schwartz and friends highlight the highs and lows of hospitality life, never shying away from hard truths, but always circling back to their love for the business, each other, and the VPR fanbase.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

If you’ve ever worked in hospitality, felt burned out, or wondered what reality TV fame does to a workplace, this episode captures the highs, lows, and everyday poetry of restaurant life. It’s one part behind-the-scenes Vanderpump Rules, one part industry confessional, and another part joyous reunion of friends who have survived chaos and still love the ride.

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Retoxification complete.

Transcript

[Tom Schwartz]

Foreign. It's now time for your weekly retox.

[Peter Madrigal]

With Tom Schwartz gang.

[Tom Sandoval]

What up? It's Schwartz checking in.

[Tom Schwartz]

How are you?

[Tom Sandoval]

We're gonna go on a little journey today. We're gonna go to the motherland. We're gonna go to. Sir, maybe just sip some tequila with Peter's her manager. Check in with Logan at TomTom. A wellness check. Also, it's the first episode where I get a little tipsy, so I apologize in advance. I just wanted to catch up with my friends. It was like a wellness check. Just see how things are going. Because if you've worked in the bar, restaurant industry, you know, it takes its toll. It's taxing, it can be rewarding. You can make a lot of money, but at what cost? Peter and Logan are in the unique position of managing bar restaurants where most of our patrons are fans. We have regulars, of course, I love our regulars, but primarily it's tourists. People from all over the world. London, Italy, France. A lot of Norwegians that watch Vanderpump Rules. Tons of Aussies shout out to the Australian Canadians in droves. You know, I love Canada. Honorary or Canadian here. But yeah, we're to check in, see how the guys are doing. How's business? It's been rough in LA lately. Also, I want to let you guys know that this one's, you know, a little off the cuff. But we're gonna get into some very intense things down the road. Some fascinating subjects, mind altering substances. We're gonna go down rabbit holes. Don't worry. But this time I just wanted to go hang out with the guys, check in. I want to go sit in the back alley at Sir Sip a cold one. Just check in on my friends, man. They've been doing it a long time and they're so good at it, you know what I mean? They don't just serve, they make you feel seen. They're good at what they do. And I love them. I'm so grateful for them. Because without them, you know what? The places wouldn't exist. Sorry, my dogs are going crazy right now, but I kind of like it. But I'm gonna take you along for the ride.

[Tom Schwartz]

This is a little love letter.

[Tom Sandoval]

This episode is a love letter to anyone who's ever worked in the business. I know most of you have servers, bartenders, cooks, hosts, bar backs, everyone. It's a special type of camaraderie. It's a strange ass carnival. Honestly, it's a bit of a freak show and I mean that in the most loving way possible. My God, I Think that's one of the reasons Vanderpump Rules was so successful. It's like if you've worked in a bar, restaurant, there's a special type of, I don't know, commisery, camaraderie. It's like the proximity clause. You end up dating, hooking up with your co workers. And it's. It's such a unique place. The business of bars and restaurants, hospitality, retail. It's just a special type of camaraderie. Again, maybe it's forged with a. A smoke, a cigarette break out back. Even if you don't smoke, you need a cigarette. You know what I'm talking about. Just eye rolls, a knowing glance that communicates. A special type of hell that only you know if you've ever worked in this business. And don't get me wrong, I love it. I love it. I say that with love. I love people. I've always had such a high tolerance for my fellow human beings. My first job was at TGI Fridays in Woodbury, Minnesota. Back when you had to have. Flair. Yeah, suspenders. Back in those days, I think I started as a busboy and a host. And I loved it. I've always had a high threshold for people. I must say it again, I can handle them at their worst. So give me your best. I think a great deal of empathy is a prerequisite to make it in this business. Compassion and patience. You guys though, man, how good does it feel as a server, a bartender, a busboy? The high of a Saturday night. Closing out, counting your tips, Cold, hard, sticky cash in your hand. Maybe you made 550 bucks. Listen, you smell like the entire menu, but your pockets are heavy with cash. It's time to tie one off, baby. Sip a cold one. Commiserate. You had a laugh now, cry later. You know what I'm talking about. There's a cost to this lifestyle. The cost is written in the margins of your life. Your body, your rhythm, it's all messed up. Nocturnal rhythms. Your sleep is. Well, hopefully not forever, but at least while you're doing it feels forever compromised. You're just out of sync with the rest of the world. You know what I mean? LA bars close at 2am so if you're a bartender or a server, if you're lucky, after closing duties, you get home around 3. New York, 4am, get home at 5. It's brutal. It can really wear you down. Also, and it. Listen, confessional, at least for me, you end up drinking more than you would any other job. Maybe to numb the pain. I Don't know.

[Tom Schwartz]

There's, like.

[Tom Sandoval]

There's a camaraderie in it. I have no doubt that half the kitchens out there in the world, not just America, are running on some sort of uppers. Adderall, cocaine, Red Bull, gamy wings, you know, Cooks, man, they don't.

[Tom Schwartz]

Cooks.

[Tom Sandoval]

Chefs. Underpaid, underappreciated. They don't get the glory the front of the house gets, man. It's a grind. But I'm happy in this day and age, Some. Some chefs, some cooks could be rock stars, man. They're the best people to grab a beer with, people who've worked in the customer service industry. We're checking in on Logan and Peter. Man, they can be your therapist, your best friend, a shoulder to cry on when you're down, bad. Lord knows I've been on best. Well, not best. Both sides of the bar. Yeah, but also, it's hard on your relationships. Romantic, personal, you know, bent, hopefully not broken. But when you're in this business, you miss birthdays, vacays, holidays. Your circadian rhythms are all kinds of messed up. But there's some sort of. There's some sort of poetry in it. I don't know. I think I still romanticize it. I'm a romantic. Chaotic, intoxicating. Poetry of some sort. I don't know. I think in the same way that someone can get addicted to, like, a toxic relationship, you kind of get addicted to the lifestyle. It's fun, especially when you're making good money. I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. I said I'm definitely not encouraging drinking on the job. It's probably the fastest way to get fired. It is, but Lord knows I did it. Not proud of that. Not always, but damn, man, the best beer in the world again. Just counting your tips. Crack at a cold one. My God. Bliss. Closest to heaven that I'll ever be. The chaos, just tickets, like, spewing the sounds, crazy. Glassware clinking.

[Tom Schwartz]

I love it.

[Tom Sandoval]

I don't know. It's not for everyone, but the shared grin of a co worker who knows exactly what type of hell you're wading through. You guys again? Said with love. But, yeah, the high highs, the low lows, the high earning potential. Right. I was listening to an interview the other day with Mark Cuban. He said if he had to start all over, the first thing he'd do is get a sales job or start bartending. It's a fast way to make cash, man. Yeah, but listen, over the years, I think the real currency is Just in the. The humanity or the stories, the people I met along the way, engagements, proposals. Like people breaking up, heartbreak, divorce parties, man. Just the absurdities you witness. It is kind of a fever dream. Every night, another story, a soap opera in its own. You know what I'm talking about? If you've worked in this business. Alright, I don't want to yap too much, but why do we love it, guys? We keep showing up. I don't know what it is. Maybe for all the sleepless nights, the fucked up circadian rhythm, the madness, the burnout, there's some sort of twisted beauty in like the camaraderie, the. The fellowship of this service industry. Yeah, man, the restaurants are. Are a little battlefield, but it's also brotherhood, a sisterhood. Yeah. You become family with them. And I'm proud to say that we have some of the best employees in the world.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sir.

[Tom Sandoval]

Tom. Tom. Oh my God. This is almost 10 minutes. I'm gonna shut up. I'm going. I already went. I went. I hung out with Logan, who was the manager at Tom Tom. You know him. You've seen him on Vanderbump Rules. Peter. Of course. And I just wanted to check in and see how they're doing, check in on my boys. Let's go. It was really fun. I had a great time. It was Saturday night. West Hollywood. Heart will always be in West Hollywood. Let's go check in with our guys, see how they're doing, how they're holding up. Are they jaded? Spoiler alert. No, not at all. And I had a blast. I hope you guys enjoy it too. Again, sorry. The first time I've ever been tipsy while doing the podcast. So, yeah, it's not as structured as it usually is, but I think it was fun. Get some unique purview, insight into what it's like managing bars where the patrons are primarily tourists, fans. Such a unique experience and I'm so grateful to have these guys in my life. All right, I'm gonna shut up. Next stop, back alley. Sir. Here we go.

[Tom Schwartz]

Logan Cochrane. Hi. Where are we? Where are we? What are we doing?

[Logan Cochrane]

We're at. We're at TomTom.

[Tom Schwartz]

How did you end up here?

[Logan Cochrane]

Here? Today I took a lift because I was in a car accident last night.

[Tom Schwartz]

And you're okay?

[Logan Cochrane]

I'm okay. My car not okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

How's your spirit? Your morale?

[Logan Cochrane]

Wounded, but we'll survive.

[Tom Schwartz]

Well, you look beautiful.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thank you so much. As to you, you got the prettiest.

[Tom Schwartz]

Blue eyes on the planet. St. Why did I feel creepy when.

[Logan Cochrane]

I said That I don't know.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, my God, you guys. I'm here with my friend Logan. You might know him from Vanderpump Rules. He's the manager at TomTom. He's a dear old friend, and he's a beautiful soul. Beautiful human being.

[Logan Cochrane]

That's so sweet.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, you really are.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thank you so much. As are you.

[Tom Schwartz]

I just wanted to check in.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

At the top. Because anyone who's ever worked in the bar, restaurant industry, customer service industry, retail, it can be grueling.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

And I feel like you need. I don't feel like you needed it, but, like, everyone collectively could use a wellness check. How are you holding up? Are you. Do you find yourself a little bitter, a little jaded lately? Are you okay with the. With this business? Not in life.

[Logan Cochrane]

Life is an entirely different conversation. We're gonna get to that, Vienna. I mean, the. I think working in this business is always very trying. It's very.

[Tom Schwartz]

Using, you know? Tell me, using your words carefully, can you explain to someone who's never worked in the bar and restaurant industry, the customer service, how it can be so grueling and taxing?

[Peter Madrigal]

You.

[Tom Schwartz]

You miss holidays, you miss birthdays, you miss special events, you work weekends, late nights.

[Logan Cochrane]

I mean, you. You said it. There's you. You sort of have to exist in a different timeline than a lot of other people. Whereas a lot of people, they're off work.

[Tom Schwartz]

Friday comes, they're like, where are we going?

[Logan Cochrane]

Where are we going?

[Tom Schwartz]

Cabo, baby.

[Logan Cochrane]

For me, Friday is essentially like the start of the work week, and you get to see everybody out having fun, and you are at work till 2 or 3 in the morning.

[Tom Schwartz]

For everyone who's working in 9 to 5, you know, that Friday feeling, it's one of the best feelings in the world. It's like getting out of school for summer. And. And for Logan, he has to just start school in summer.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, My. My weekend is usually Sunday. Monday.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

Which is not. It's. It's not bad. Less crowds when you try to do stuff on those days.

[Tom Schwartz]

So Monday's a big hospitality night in the industry. If you go out to your local diver on a Monday, most of the people, Most of the patrons will probably be bartenders, servers, bussers, chefs.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, right.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

I think in la, there's also actors, actresses.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

You get a little more variety here. But just because nobody here works normal, it's so rare.

[Tom Schwartz]

When I meet someone who has a conventional 9 to 5, it's almost alien. It's exotic. You're like, whoa, wait, tell me about it.

[Logan Cochrane]

A corporate job.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah. I don't. Those aren't my people. Just because we seldom cross paths.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's true.

[Logan Cochrane]

Unless they're coming to Tom.

[Tom Schwartz]

Tom, how. How has TomTom been lately? How is West Hollywood been lately? The industry in LA struggling as a whole. We're not going to look at the PLS P. Ls. We're not going to talk numbers, obviously, but, like, generally speaking, post Covid, the industry's taken a hit. How has TomTom been lately?

[Logan Cochrane]

We're.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

I mean, there's. It's a roller coaster. It's a roller coaster. We've got some really great days. We've got some days. Days that are a little quieter than we all would like them to be. But I'd also say we're pretty resilient.

[Tom Schwartz]

We are resilient and we.

[Logan Cochrane]

We have a lot of fun here. The staff is incredible here.

[Tom Schwartz]

10 out of 10 staff.

[Logan Cochrane]

10 out.

[Tom Sandoval]

Partial.

[Tom Schwartz]

We're partial.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's. It's. I think you're in a very unique position. Not many people manage a bar in which the patrons, the. The primary people who occupy that bar are fans of a TV show.

[Logan Cochrane]

This is true.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can you speak to this a little bit?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah. You. Everybody who comes in here, more or less, I think. I think I've, like, looked it up. I think it was like, at one point, 91 of our reservation book was from first timers, which I assume to mean out of towners, tourists, and you. You kind of always see people. If they don't say it explicitly, you'll see them coming and they kind of have like a wandering eye, just like looking to see. Is Tom Schwartz here?

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

Where's Sheena? Has anyone checked on Sheena?

[Tom Schwartz]

My favorite meme on the Internet, Sheena.

[Logan Cochrane]

We love you, but. Yeah, so that's. That's. That's always been a. A strange but, like, very fun. Like, it's. It's so much fun when people do come in here and somebody like you is here.

[Tom Schwartz]

You have such a good attitude about it, Logan. But I know someday, say for instance, you just got into a car accident, you're stressed out, your significant other left you, or you're just. You're sick, whatever, your dog just died. God forbid, sometimes that is ever just great on your nerves. You're like, if someone asks me if Tom or Tom is here again, I might snap. It's okay to say yes.

[Logan Cochrane]

I. Yeah, I think more so when I was. Well, a couple years ago, in light of a certain situation that happened, we.

[Tom Schwartz]

Don'T say that word. But. But I would just, you know, what of all. And it was. Well, I think it was a very unique situation because you're one of Ariana's best friends.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

And you love her. That's your ride or die. But also, you are the manager at TomTom. How. How weird was that, by the way? Not to go. We don't, we don't talk about that.

[Peter Madrigal]

But how weird.

[Logan Cochrane]

How did you do without talking about that? Like, just from, like, a standpoint of, like, being here. People had so many questions, people inquisitions, people wanted to talk. And I got pretty fed up at a certain point with that.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

But that's calmed down and now it's like, nobody brings it up. People are just excited to be here. It's much more, Much more manageable now.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah. But during the peak of it, it got, like, at Schwartz and Sandies, it got crazy. We. There was points where we were nervous about someone. We had people make threats.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Death threats, things written on the wall. We got, you know, it got. It got scary for the employees. It didn't. It wasn't as bad at TomTom. Or was it?

[Logan Cochrane]

I. I never heard anything about any threats or anything, thankfully. Yeah, but I mean, we would get like, like prank phone calls. Honestly, this day we get, like, prank reservations.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

Jax Taylor had a reservation the other day and he and his reservation notes requested that you sing to him.

[Tom Schwartz]

That actually might have been Jack's.

[Logan Cochrane]

But also, people don't realize when they do that there's usually like an email address attached to those, like, to their OpenTable account. So I'm like, I know it's you, Nancy.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah. But that was. Those are strange times. Did you ever feel morally conflicted? Like, I'm managing TomTom and my best friend is Ariana and. No, I think you compartmentalized. You handled it really, really well in my. You really did. You. You did. Like, I, I gotta, I gotta sing praises for you. You handled it so well.

[Logan Cochrane]

No, I never felt. Felt conflicted because also I have been here for over seven years now.

[Tom Schwartz]

Seven years.

[Logan Cochrane]

Seven years. We just had our seven year anniversary like a month ago.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, my God. Seven year anniversary.

[Logan Cochrane]

Seven years.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's a big deal in this business.

[Logan Cochrane]

This is true.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

To still be open and still. I mean, today you brought in a crowd to still have that, all these, all these years later. That's very exciting. But no, I've. I've been here for so long and it is my.

[Tom Schwartz]

I mean, it's, it's your job. You were compartmentalized. And I think you have such a good sense of humor. I feel like you did appreciate like the irony of it. You know what I mean?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

With you know, in a facetious way.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And yeah. I gotta say to your. To sing PR more praises. I don't think I've ever seen you in a bad mood in my life at TomTom ever. Not one time. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thank you.

[Tom Schwartz]

I've never seen you be bitter or annoyed or irritable. That is the sign of a true amazing manager.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thank you.

[Tom Schwartz]

Cuz God knows we all want to just vent and. Yeah, I mean I just go off on the occasional. I. We won't go there. But yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

Honestly a testament to the, the staff that works here because so, so many of them have been here for so long and are my friends now. So it's really nice even if I am coming in in a bad mood and I see somebody who I love here and I'm like, okay, it's a. We're going to have fun tonight.

[Tom Schwartz]

You become family. There's a, there's a, there is a camaraderie.

[Tom Sandoval]

A.

[Tom Schwartz]

You commiserate with people when you're in.

[Logan Cochrane]

What?

[Tom Schwartz]

No, you know, it's. He said a friend to me.

[Logan Cochrane]

Come, come right on.

[Peter Madrigal]

Me coming.

[Logan Cochrane]

Camaraderie.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, but there, there's a, it's a special bond. People who work in this. Right.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And we have an amazing, amazing staff.

[Logan Cochrane]

We do.

[Tom Schwartz]

Amazing doesn't do it justice.

[Logan Cochrane]

The best.

[Tom Schwartz]

They're so funny, charming. A lot of them are insanely talented artists, musicians, actors. Just great people. Soulful, beautiful souls. Yes. Right.

[Logan Cochrane]

My family.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm saying my family.

[Logan Cochrane]

My family.

[Tom Schwartz]

But yeah, it's been weird. It's. I don't want to say freak show cuz that has a negative connotation. But it's been such a just wild ride since we opened the doors. Yeah, it's been such a wild ride.

[Logan Cochrane]

Can people. The. The amount of people who have come in here over the last seven years. The amount of really cool people like Kelly Clarkson.

[Tom Schwartz]

My God, we've had some cool ones in here. Eve. Eve was here. I just said. You saw my throwback post with Eve?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, I met her that night.

[Tom Schwartz]

The table guys. I'm in the back garden before we expanded the garden at TomTom and I'm looking at it. I'm remembering Miley Cyrus. I think she was dancing on the table.

[Logan Cochrane]

She's dancing on this table right behind.

[Tom Schwartz]

Right behind us.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

So many cool celebrities. Remember, remember the first Time. Chrissy Teigen and John Legend kissed in front of me and Tom.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

That set off a trend that lasted for. Well up until.

[Logan Cochrane]

Still happens.

[Tom Schwartz]

Does it still happen?

[Peter Madrigal]

People.

[Logan Cochrane]

People will come in any given night and they're like, where's the. Where's the photo?

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

And I'm like, right this way.

[Tom Schwartz]

I found that even through some of the darker times in our history, the in person people, the patrons are always lovely.

[Logan Cochrane]

100. They're so excited to be here.

[Tom Schwartz]

And. And for people, like, it's.

[Tom Sandoval]

You don't need.

[Tom Schwartz]

Listen, we don't have to get too deep here, but online is so different than the real world. You know what I mean? The juxtaposition between what my experience online has been and what my experience here. TomTom shorts and Sandy's. Whatever, sir. It's just a world's difference. Day and night.

[Logan Cochrane]

People aren't saying nice things about you on the Internet.

[Tom Schwartz]

I mean, they're pretty cool lately. Okay. Everest. I mean, I think. I think I peaked at mediocre shit stain, but I think it actually inspired me to do better.

[Logan Cochrane]

That's a term of endearment, depending on how you look at it.

[Tom Schwartz]

I mean, if you call me that, I'd be okay with it. Old blue eyes. Logan.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

You've been here a long time.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

What's your favorite dish at TomTom?

[Logan Cochrane]

I mean, the. The cauliflower wings are.

[Tom Schwartz]

They're iconic.

[Logan Cochrane]

An iconic forever banger on the menu I've really been into. We have like this hot honey pepperoni flatbread that you just saw me eating.

[Tom Schwartz]

I just scruffed down myself and I'm having it. I'm having a cocktail right now.

[Logan Cochrane]

I'm having water.

[Tom Schwartz]

What's your favorite drink?

[Logan Cochrane]

Probably the Clockwork Pink.

[Tom Schwartz]

Clockwork Pink is solid. Mine's probably the Nutcase. It's a little sweet, but it's my favorite drink.

[Logan Cochrane]

Sticky Sweet.

[Tom Schwartz]

So sticky. Pain in the ass for the bartender.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, but no, it's like the. It's like a pina colada vibes.

[Tom Schwartz]

What's our best seller? I know it was Madame Butterfly, but I feel like the tides have turned.

[Logan Cochrane]

Well, now we have the. The pumptini on the menu.

[Tom Schwartz]

And we got the Big Pinky.

[Logan Cochrane]

Big Pinky.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

We got happy hour. Now both of those drinks are on happy hour.

[Tom Schwartz]

But have you been a little worried about West Hollywood as a whole?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, there's definitely some nights where you are.

[Tom Schwartz]

There's.

[Logan Cochrane]

There's definitely some nights where the streets are quiet and you're like, what is going on? Because then you think, you wonder if it's like a, a bigger issue, but then you kind of take solace in knowing that, like, oh, if we're quiet, but the whole street's quiet, like it's not, it's not us.

[Tom Schwartz]

You try to not be results oriented on a night to night basis. Think long term. You know this, the 700 tip night will make up for the $50 tip night. But it's hard when you are sacrificing being with the people you love, not being with your friends, your family. Missing out on the Tate McCray concert tonight because you got to be at TomTom and then you have a really slow night. It's hard not to get jaded.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Don't you think?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, it's. Well, one of the things that I've always struggled with is you have friends who, you know, aren't stuck at work on a Saturday night. And then like every once in a while you get that random Saturday night off and you're like, oh, everybody's doing stuff without me. Why didn't you invite me? And then it's like, oh, we just like assumed you were working.

[Tom Schwartz]

No.

[Logan Cochrane]

And I'm like, no, no, not tonight.

[Tom Schwartz]

It does suck. It's one of the worst parts of the industry.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah. Or people plan things and you're, you're just not included because people just assume you're. He's probably working.

[Tom Schwartz]

He's probably working. Wait, I know I asked you this earlier and I hate when people are like, what's the craziest thing that's ever happened? That and I. Because I miss, I don't know, lots of crazy stuff. Can we do some like, I don't know, can we do some crazy stories? Like, I know we've seen some freaky stuff on the security footage. I remember one guy getting a beach. I think it was during. Oh, remember that one? I mean, it was sweet. I hate to.

[Logan Cochrane]

That kind of stuff I embrace.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's like it was hard to, you know, it felt like it was borderline homophobic not allowing that to happen. But it is, it is a business and there needs to be a modicum of that, boundaries, that kind of stuff.

[Logan Cochrane]

That doesn't bother me.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, of course not, but I welcome it. Can we talk about some unique stories? Maybe some stuff you haven't told me?

[Logan Cochrane]

What haven't I. I mean, I feel like you've been here for a lot of the, the crazy, the craziness.

[Tom Schwartz]

Like any you ever. Have we ever found anyone, like passed out downstairs in storage or like back here or like, we make it a point to never over serve. We're so good about that. But listen, inevitably you. You get someone who's in tourist mode when you're on vacay. You drink a little more, you don't sleep as much.

[Logan Cochrane]

I used. Like, people come here, especially fans. Especially if, like, one of you are here.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

People will drink themselves into oblivion. And, like, they try to, like, get the. They're nervous and they try to, like, get the courage to go up to.

[Tom Schwartz]

You and say, hi, and how long have you known me? I might be the least intimidating human on the planet.

[Logan Cochrane]

You. But people wouldn't hurt a fly.

[Tom Schwartz]

People will chug six vodka sodas at the bar to muster up the courage. I'm like you guys. I don't bite. I'm the easiest human being on the planet and. But I get that it's Jax you.

[Logan Cochrane]

Gotta watch out for.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, but it's scary. I'm. When I see a celebrity, I get nervous.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Who's your favorite? What's your best celebrity encounter at TomTom or just anywhere?

[Logan Cochrane]

There was a. When I was still waiting tables here, I would say, like the best night. Like, personally, I would say. Oh, well, I'd say there's two. There was the night that Kelly Clarkson came in.

[Tom Sandoval]

Kelly Clarkson.

[Logan Cochrane]

Who is Kelly Clarkson? Icon, queen, icon, legend.

[Tom Schwartz]

We love her.

[Logan Cochrane]

And at the same time that I was waiting on Kelly Clarkson, I was also waiting on Selena Gomez. That I was here that night at the same time.

[Tom Schwartz]

I was so intimidated.

[Logan Cochrane]

But Selena, she's been in here a few times and she's so, so sweet.

[Tom Schwartz]

She's an earth angel and so nice. She asked me to sit down with her. I don't know if you remember. And I was so. That's the most nervous I've ever been in the history of TomTom. I felt like I was 13 again, hitting on my crush. I did not. Not like in a. I don't know if that's the right way to phrase it, you know, in terms of my uncouth uncoolness.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, you got. You got a little butterflies.

[Tom Schwartz]

For some reason, I. I felt very comfortable around Lady.

[Logan Cochrane]

She married today.

[Tom Schwartz]

And Miley Cyrus. She is.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah. Benny to Benny. I like right now.

[Tom Schwartz]

Are they relationship goals? Yes.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

I don't know much about their relationship.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'll just say yes. Yes. Oh, my God, they're so cute together.

[Logan Cochrane]

I think he's a little kooky.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah. But in a good way.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

They have such a sweet relationship. And I. I want.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

I want that. What else? Who else? I'm trying to think. Paul Abdul.

[Logan Cochrane]

So sweet.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm looking at a little to the left of where Miley Cyrus was dancing on the table. And I remember serving, meeting Denise Richards for the first time. I just watched the new Charlie Sheen documentary.

[Logan Cochrane]

Oh, okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

They had some insane trauma. I. You. Can you imagine dating Charlie Sheen in his prime?

[Logan Cochrane]

That sounds.

[Tom Schwartz]

She is a soldier and a champion and such a strong woman. But I met her on the garden side of Tom Tom. And I was like, what can I get you? That's when she was filming Housewives of Beverly Hills. And she said, I'll do a double tequila because I'm stressed.

[Logan Cochrane]

She likes the. It's like Casamigos Repo.

[Tom Schwartz]

She did. She likes Casamigos repo. But she always kept her composure. Like, she just. Yeah, she had the one drink and then she didn't drink again. She wasn't like a repeat drinker, but she was so fucking sweet. And I was like, it's weird when you meet your childhood crush.

[Logan Cochrane]

I mean, that. Your childhood crush.

[Tom Schwartz]

One of them.

[Logan Cochrane]

Wow.

[Tom Schwartz]

I had a lot of them. Who was your childhood crush?

[Logan Cochrane]

Ricky Martin.

[Tom Schwartz]

You guys, Logan is a beautiful gay.

[Tom Sandoval]

Man, if you don't know.

[Logan Cochrane]

Single.

[Tom Schwartz]

Single. Are you single right now?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Who doesn't? Ricky Martin is.

[Logan Cochrane]

Ricky Martin is. But also celebrity crush now is Ricky Martin.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah. Do you have any niche ones we can talk about? Cartoons, anime, Toms.

[Logan Cochrane]

Nope, Nope. Toms. I don't think that joke. Bad joke.

[Tom Schwartz]

We don't have to go there.

[Logan Cochrane]

I'm sure there are some.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's okay.

[Logan Cochrane]

Oh, maybe like Sebastian from the Little Mermaid.

[Tom Schwartz]

Ah, yeah. You and Luke loves. Yeah, Luke's a big little.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, he's pretty.

[Tom Schwartz]

Kristen's. Luke is a big, big fan of. You know.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait, who is she? I can't think of her name.

[Peter Madrigal]

Who?

[Tom Schwartz]

Little Mermaid.

[Logan Cochrane]

Ariel.

[Tom Schwartz]

Ariel. Oh, Luke's a big fan. No spoilers. But Luke. Luke. Kristen Doty's fiance. Oh, yeah. I was just with them.

[Logan Cochrane]

Oh, I love that.

[Tom Schwartz]

We were playing basketball.

[Logan Cochrane]

Cute.

[Tom Schwartz]

We were hooping it up.

[Logan Cochrane]

Congrats to them and the baby.

[Tom Schwartz]

But you're feeling okay? You're not too jaded? I had. I wanted to check in on you.

[Logan Cochrane]

No, it's still. It's still fun coming in here. And I still. It kind of feels like a. Like a puzzle you will never finish.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

But you're just kind of always on the verge of finding that final puzzle piece. It's always something new. New people coming in here. It's pretty exciting.

[Tom Schwartz]

I applaud Your just inability to be jaded. I mean, maybe you are. If you do, you hide it well. It's just how. Do you. Do you have any tips for other people out there who are burnt out in the bar and restaurant industry? Do you have a regimen? Do you do. Do like, do you meditate? Yoga? Are you just built for this?

[Logan Cochrane]

I've been running. I don't know if that's running away from things or running just like running from anything. No, that's good for the. That's good for the mind. That helps clear out any negative energy that I may have.

[Tom Schwartz]

Maybe some palo santo, some sage.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, a good candle shout out. Candle delirium.

[Tom Schwartz]

Shout out to Candelarium. I love that place on Santa Monica Boulevard.

[Logan Cochrane]

The best.

[Tom Schwartz]

Right next to Laurel Hardware, one of my OG stomping grounds.

[Logan Cochrane]

Great patio.

[Tom Schwartz]

Are you more detox or more Retox lately? How's your harmony?

[Logan Cochrane]

Harmony is harmonying.

[Tom Schwartz]

Balanced.

[Logan Cochrane]

Lately, I'd say more detox. Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

I asked Logan to have a drink. He said no, thank you. Not that he ever drinks while he's working, but I was just like, hey, before the podcast, can we have a drink?

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, no, I. I mean, maybe this is also something that's helped lately is not getting sucked up into the culture.

[Tom Schwartz]

Of.

[Logan Cochrane]

I work at a bar. That doesn't mean I want to spend every hour at a bar. On my days off, I'll go for a run, go hang out by the pool. I might go to dinner. I have a glass of wine with dinner. But I'm not.

[Tom Schwartz]

I get it. It does curb your enthusiasm for bars. I always found it ironic that being a bar owner, especially Shorts and Sandy's.

[Logan Cochrane]

Ironically, you spend more time at home.

[Tom Schwartz]

Made me not want to drink. It was I. It was like, ironically one of the more sobering ventures I've ever done in my life. Even though I drank a lot to help numb the pain, it was ironically sobering having a bar. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a grind. It's a full time job. And like, you know, even when you're not on the clock, someone's sick in the morning. Logan, I can't make it in. I got a big audition, I stubbed my toe, my dog ate my homework.

[Peter Madrigal]

Stuff.

[Tom Schwartz]

Stuff like that.

[Logan Cochrane]

All of the above.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Logan Cochrane]

No, it's. I mean, you're never. You're never fully off the clock, but take some time for yourself. Go see Beyonce if you can.

[Tom Schwartz]

You love Beyonce.

[Logan Cochrane]

Love her so much.

[Tom Schwartz]

Who do you love more, Beyonce or Beyonce? Yeah. No.

[Peter Madrigal]

Are you.

[Logan Cochrane]

You might Be top over Tom Schwartz. Beyonce.

[Tom Schwartz]

You might be top 10 Beyonce fans in the world.

[Logan Cochrane]

I hope so.

[Tom Schwartz]

Do you. Do you still love me? Yeah. Well, there was a little pause there.

[Logan Cochrane]

No, I do.

[Tom Schwartz]

You do.

[Tom Sandoval]

I know.

[Logan Cochrane]

Sorry, I was surprised by the question.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sorry, guys.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thought it was obvious. You got.

[Tom Schwartz]

This is technically a podcast, but I feel like I'm just sitting down and talking to you and it's nice. Cuz I. I miss you. And usually it's so loud in here and in a good way.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

By the way, you're a great dj, a great curator of vibes.

[Logan Cochrane]

Oh my.

[Tom Schwartz]

You are really great curator. You have some of the best playlists. I'm so grateful to have you as a friend, as a manager.

[Logan Cochrane]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Tom Schwartz]

I would have liked to hear some freakier stories about things that have happened at TomTom. I. But it's okay.

[Logan Cochrane]

We'll do like a. We'll do like a tell all one day.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay. I actually respect this boundary because it could backfire.

[Logan Cochrane]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, listen, you'll see. I mean, it's West Hollywood.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, read.

[Logan Cochrane]

You could imagine.

[Tom Schwartz]

Read between the lines. Guys, it's West Hollywood. There's some freaky stuff that happens, but.

[Logan Cochrane]

But we love it.

[Tom Schwartz]

I love you and I'm so happy to sit down with you.

[Logan Cochrane]

I'm so happy to sit down with you.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh my God. We ran long. It's 25 minutes.

[Tom Sandoval]

Sorry, Guy.

[Tom Schwartz]

I promised him. I said 10 to 15.

[Logan Cochrane]

It's okay. All right, Logan, I'll be here all night.

[Tom Schwartz]

All right, we're signing off. Next stop. Sir. I'm going to go chat with Peter and catch up with Peter.

[Logan Cochrane]

Tell him I said hello.

[Tom Schwartz]

I will. I'll tell.

[Logan Cochrane]

We'll see him soon. He's in here pretty often.

[Tom Schwartz]

We always did a good job of cross pollinating, right? Yeah, I think we did with sir. And even something about her too, during the day.

[Logan Cochrane]

And best sandwiches in WeHo.

[Tom Schwartz]

Best sandwiches in WeHo. Can you ask Ariana if I can.

[Tom Sandoval]

Get on Love Island?

[Logan Cochrane]

I don't think she's in charge of the casting.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's not my. It's not my age.

[Logan Cochrane]

You. Are you under 30? Still a little.

[Tom Schwartz]

Little higher. Do they have a love when they do early 40s?

[Logan Cochrane]

When. When they do the Golden Love island, maybe.

[Tom Schwartz]

All right, we're leaving. This is over.

[Logan Cochrane]

Okay, bye.

[Tom Sandoval]

Love you. Peter, we're rolling.

[Peter Madrigal]

Are we really? Tom?

[Tom Schwartz]

Can we go back?

[Peter Madrigal]

You're not going to introduce me or anything?

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, straight to the Arnold impersonation.

[Peter Madrigal]

Stay to the island. Impersonation. Cool. How about this one? You can recognize this one. It's mine. My precious loss.

[Tom Schwartz]

You guys, this is what happens when you're the manager of SIR for 15.

[Peter Madrigal]

Years and you're getting drunk with one of your oldest friend companion patriots. What do we call ourselves?

[Tom Schwartz]

You're my O.G. one of my rider dies. I miss your face, by the way.

[Peter Madrigal]

Before we start, Peter, where are we?

[Tom Schwartz]

What are we doing?

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, first of all, before we get into any of that. Thomas. I was going to say Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, but that's not who you are. Thomas Schwartz.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter Madrigal.

[Peter Madrigal]

There you go. Before we do anything like that, we got to take this shot.

[Tom Schwartz]

Where are we?

[Peter Madrigal]

Well, first of all, we do shot. Ladies and gentlemen, in the. In this podcast, Tom and I used to do shot for shot all the time. So let's raise our glasses high. This one's for you tonight, Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

I don't do full shots, but in honor of you taking time out of your schedule because I know you're busy as fuck, I will do a full shot with you.

[Peter Madrigal]

I love it. Cheers to you, Tom. So.

[Tom Schwartz]

But you didn't tell. You didn't tell the audience where we are right now.

[Peter Madrigal]

We are in the iconic sir alley, the sir alleyway. We are doing this podcast. We are talking on this podcast as people are driving by and saying, hi. This is real.

[Tom Schwartz]

Hi.

[Peter Madrigal]

Hi. How's it going?

[Tom Schwartz]

Hey, guys. We are looking at Zach Wickham right now.

[Peter Madrigal]

Zach Wickham and Peter, thank you for.

[Tom Schwartz]

Doing this, by the way.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, thank you for having me on, Tom. I really appreciate it. So we are in the alleyway of the iconic sir restaurant right now.

[Tom Schwartz]

For me, some of the best times in my life, some of the worst times in my life and everything in between. Without this place, I don't think I would be who I am today.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't think so either.

[Tom Schwartz]

What about you?

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't think I'd be who I am today either. I mean, like, that goes for Sir Lisa. If it wasn't for Lisa, we would not be who we are today.

[Tom Schwartz]

I think it's safe to say it's, like, as important as some of the OG Cast members. Sir.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

Maybe even Tom. Tom. But sir is where it all started.

[Peter Madrigal]

It's sir is the mothership.

[Tom Schwartz]

It is the fabric, the glue that ties us all together.

[Peter Madrigal]

Absolutely. Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

It is the reason I met my former wife. It's the reason we're sitting here now.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Shout out to Katie. We're on great terms now. Shout out to something about her okay. Business love.

[Peter Madrigal]

Something about her. Great. Sandwiches, Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

This is nice.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes, it is.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter's mad cause we're not filming this, but just.

[Peter Madrigal]

I am mad.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm gonna describe how he looks. He has a beautiful James Bond esque shirt on. He still looks like a swashbuckling pirate three buttons down. He's aging in reverse. You don't have a wrinkle on your goddamn face, Peter. What's your secret?

[Peter Madrigal]

My secret is I take care of myself. I work out for like two, three hours a day. I run five miles at least a day. I have a rigorous. A rigorous facial routine. I mean, I'm like American Psycho when it comes to my face.

[Tom Schwartz]

You're Patrick Bateman.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

I've been doing that for a long time. Since our Vanderpump Rules days.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, man.

[Peter Madrigal]

And I've been doing that for a long, long time.

[Tom Schwartz]

You've been regimented since the moment I met you, Peter. There's no one like you. You're the only Peter Madrigal on the planet.

[Peter Madrigal]

Magical Madrigal.

[Tom Schwartz]

And I mean that in the most respectful, loving way. You're a hustler. You are Dao the Father in. Before we get into what's going on in your life, can we go back in time? Peter? I love time travel on this podcast.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, no, we got. We're going to time travel here.

[Tom Sandoval]

When?

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, when was your first day at Sir Restaurant? West Hollywood.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, my God. That is like. That is as iconic as they come. Okay, so that is so iconic. Before we get into that, though, I'm scared. Before we get into that, before we get into my first day at Sur Restaurant. S U R. When I. When I started working at Sur Restaurant Sur, it meant south. And then as we got on Vanderpump Rules, as we became Vanderpump Rules, as we. As we became this very popular piece of pop culture, it became Sexy Unique Restaurant.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, it evolved into that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, it evolved into that.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait, I did not know that. Yeah, I know. Sir means south and South Espanol.

[Peter Madrigal]

See? So how do you feel before we get into my first day here, how do you feel now that Sir Vanderpump Rules is over? What are your thoughts? How are you feeling? I feel it's not over for. I mean, over for specifically for us.

[Tom Schwartz]

It will live on forever.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes, it will.

[Tom Schwartz]

I think. And this has nothing to do with my ego because I do not enjoy watching myself. I have no ego. But I do think it's an iconic show, and I think it'll stay in the cultural zeitgeist for a long time because of its authenticity.

[Peter Madrigal]

Absolutely.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's one of the most authentic shows, I think, in the history of reality tv, you know, because you lived it. Yeah, you can factor.

[Peter Madrigal]

We both did.

[Logan Cochrane]

We both did.

[Peter Madrigal]

We both did. We were both part of pop culture history.

[Tom Schwartz]

And I. Yeah, there's no ego here when we're talking about this. And it changed my life forever. Yeah, it really did.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And I love this place. And then I have so many good memories here. Some bad, but I would say 98. Good.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'd say 95. But we're not. We're not counting.

[Tom Schwartz]

So we're not counting the S10 or the confessions in the Back Alley.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, exactly. So my first day here was, you got to wind the clocks back all the way back to 2008.

[Tom Schwartz]

And, Peter, how did. Before you even get there, how did you even end up in West Hollywood in the first place?

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, so I was still in college.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

I was at the University of Southern California, home of the Trojans. I was graduating from college in 2008, and I met this gentleman by the name of Guillermo Zapata, right? And I was working at Club Monaco at the time, which no longer exists on Sunset. Okay? So basically, when I'm taking a swig, by the way of my tequila soda, so he's all like, wow, you have a good look. You should come work at my restaurant. Now here's the real kicker for this whole thing, okay? At the time, I literally lived in an apartment, a two bedroom apartment with five guys, right? So it was me, my brother Paul, my brother Jude, and then Zephany, our adopted brother, and then this guy Arthur. Now, Arthur was in a movie called Pineapple Express. He was the redheaded kid in the. In the hallway of Pineapple Express who tells. So you got. You got Amber Heard and Seth Rogen walking down the hallway, right? And. And he's the one that said, all right, time to suck today's dick.

[Tom Schwartz]

I know the reference.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, there you go. Okay, so he was in that movie, right? He also, at the time he was filming that movie, was a busser here at Sir Restaurant. So at the time I wanted some more pay and I was looking for a different job, and I wanted, like, something in the restaurant industry, right? So he was all like, yeah, you know, they're looking for a bus through there. So I didn't put two and two together at the time because I was young and dumb, right? I was literally just fresh out of college, and I was trying to figure myself out. I was 24. And I couldn't keep anything together. You know, you're a dumb, little young 24 year old. And so I didn't match up that he worked at Sur. And I just met the owner of Sur. So I'm walking around the corner right here. I'm in my best white shirt, buttoned down, tucked in my pants.

[Tom Schwartz]

What year is this again?

[Peter Madrigal]

This is 2008.

[Tom Schwartz]

Thank you.

[Peter Madrigal]

And I see Guillermo, and he's working the. Working the curtains outside on the patio. And he sees me and he's all like, oh, hey, I'm. I was like, oh, hey. Oh. And it clicks in my brain, you know, because I didn't come online fully until season five of Vanderpump Rules when I turned 33. And then I really came online then I was like, oh, wait, hold on. I'm gonna start dressing in a suit. I'm gonna start wearing my button down. If you watch the first. Like, you became self aware. Yeah, exactly. I became self aware at 33, which is the average age for.

[Tom Schwartz]

For men. For men in particular.

[Peter Madrigal]

For men in particular.

[Tom Schwartz]

If you're lucky. If you're lucky, 40.

[Peter Madrigal]

Unless you're Jack Taylor.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, so straight, Jax.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sorry. So. So I'm not. So. So. So I get hired on the spot by Guillermo, right? He's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, you come on in. Right? And then I started working as a busser that day.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm whispering. I was like, that's what I was gonna ask you next. You started as a busser?

[Peter Madrigal]

I started as a busser. All right. And then what ends up happening is that six months in, we have a turnover of different servers. Now, keep in mind that I've been bartending for, like 20 years at this point, so since 2005. So I already knew how to bartend at that time. I was. You know, it was three years in. I knew how to bartender. I knew how to make a mojito.

[Tom Schwartz]

So it's humbling to have to start.

[Peter Madrigal]

As a. I didn't mind because I went and applied over there.

[Tom Schwartz]

Chacones.

[Peter Madrigal]

It wasn't Chacones at the time. Time. I went and applied over there as a server.

[Tom Schwartz]

He's pointing south. We're in West Hollywood, Right.

[Peter Madrigal]

The corner of Melrose. But it wasn't Chacon's at the time.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, I'm just letting him know because we're not filming.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, so say it again.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm letting him know because we're not filming right now.

[Peter Madrigal]

I know. Say it again, though. I'm letting him know because we want to Hear your voice.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter likes my voice.

[Peter Madrigal]

Peter. Like, Peter love Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

You've never told me some of this stuff. Wait, keep going, Keep going.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, yeah, I'm. I'm, you know, I'm a natural storyteller, so.

[Tom Schwartz]

I love you, Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

So I applied there, and I remember applying there, and I didn't get the job. So I was like, okay, you know, like, they rejected me outright. And it might have been my torn jeans and my T shirt that I came in with because I didn't dress properly. I was a kid. I was in college. So I made sure to dress properly for Guillermo. And it was like, shirt, pants, and this is 2008.

[Tom Schwartz]

Did you receive constructive criticism, say, hey, maybe dress up a little more? Did you just instinctually know?

[Peter Madrigal]

I instinctually figured it out. I mean, you're talking to a kid in college. You know what I mean? So. And I'll never forget it, too. So I got. I started here as a busser, and I was like, okay, I'm going to start off at the bottom and work my way up as long as I'm in the system. And that's exactly what happened. We had so much turnover with so many servers. I was like, I want to be a server. And I'll Never forget, until 2010, walking down here because I was like, I was only getting two shifts at the time because, you know, we had a little bit of a recession and all that stuff. And then this was pre show, and I'll never forget, like. And this was 2008.

[Tom Schwartz]

Was the recession.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah. But trickled into 2010. So I was. I remember only getting two. Two ships. Two ships a week as a server. And then all of a sudden, they offered me the managerial job, and I took it because I was like, okay, I might as well guarantee myself, like four or five days a week.

[Tom Schwartz]

So you're saying they were desperate? I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, they weren't desperate. But. But here's the thing. Nobody else wanted the job, and I wanted it because I was guaranteeing myself at least an income.

[Tom Schwartz]

You had a fire.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes. Just like you see me today. I have a fire, Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, we're gonna come back to that. Peter. Peter has an undeniable. We'll come back to this. Peter, you have a fire burning within that always inspires me. Every time I see you, I get fired up. Wait, I interrupted the story.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sweaty mess, baby. Sweaty mess.

[Logan Cochrane]

No, keep going.

[Tom Schwartz]

I hate when people interrupt on podcasts. Keep going.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, no, no. That's pretty much the end of the story. That's the way I started it, Sir.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay.

[Peter Madrigal]

And all those trials and tribulations, like they hit up until I started becoming the manager here at SIR and then once that happened a year later, 2011, Lisa comes in, we all sit down at this, at this long table over there that you've seen before in the main room, and she tells us, everyone, we are about to do a TV show. They want me to do a TV show based on one of my restaurants. And of course, like, I was like, yes, I want to do this. So I meet with her and I was cast right away. So I meet with, with, with Natalie and with Lisa and Lisa is all like, you see Pisa? We can do a TV show based around him, just him by himself. That's how charismatic he is. And I'll never forget, I was all like, I didn't know I was that charismatic when I was like a 28 year old, 29 year old man. You know what I mean? So, Yeah, I was 28 at the time. Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

At that point. Let's see, Most of the OGs were working at SIR, right?

[Peter Madrigal]

We all were. But that's why the show worked, Tom. The show worked because we, we all. Like when I went out to get drinks that, that iconic scene with, at the parlor with Jax.

[Tom Schwartz]

I remember.

[Peter Madrigal]

And we downed a bottle of tequila by ourselves. We were talking because we had known each other for goddamn five years at that point in time.

[Tom Schwartz]

And Peter, at that point you had, you dated half of the OGs. So you.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, just two of them.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, you had dated stuff. Saucy.

[Peter Madrigal]

Well, dated his. And then I hooked up with your ex wife.

[Tom Schwartz]

But then, but then also you. That's it. I thought you had hooked up with not Sheena.

[Peter Madrigal]

No. Oh.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh. I just.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, we'll get into that later.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, no. And then, well, some other people that weren't fully on the cast. Not to make you sound like a man whore or anything, but you were like a bit of a.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, you were, you were a respectful playboy.

[Peter Madrigal]

I know. I know how to. I know how to date a woman. I know that. It's true. I enjoy dating. I love it.

[Tom Schwartz]

But it's.

[Peter Madrigal]

I love taking, taking someone out.

[Tom Schwartz]

People are always fascinated that Peter and Stassi dated. Peter and Katie kind of had a moment. But who am I? Not you and Kristen. No, that she was.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, not Kristen. No, there was someone else. I'm not going to mention her name. There was someone else.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, that's not what I do here. But I. Peter. Yeah. Do you remember the early days 2000, 2010, 11. The show started officially in 2000. We filmed in 2011.

[Peter Madrigal]

So we shot the pilot, the teaser in 2011.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes. And then it aired in 2012. And the rest is history.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Do you. Do you have fond memories of the early days?

[Peter Madrigal]

I actually do. I remember, like. And I love Kristen. Kristen is like, maybe between you and Kristen, you and Chris. And this is weird for me to say now, you, Kristen and Lisa are the only people from. From like that I even communicate with. And I remember. But I remember Kristen before we started filming the first season, she comes up to me, she, you better start treating Stassi better. I was like, or what? Or we're kicking you off the show. I was like, okay, do it. Bring it.

[Tom Schwartz]

So at that. Oh, because you were her manager.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And she felt that you were treating her unfairly or being too harsh.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I wasn't being harsh on Stassi. I was just being. I, like, I don't know. I don't even remember. I do not remember the circumstances.

[Tom Schwartz]

Inherently, as a manager, you do have to be of that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Why do you think I was always Switzerland?

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

Nowadays I don't have to be Switzerland anymore because none of you guys work for me anymore. What do you. What do people.

[Tom Schwartz]

How weird is it? A mind to think about the fact that you may. At one point you were managing Katie Stassi, Kristen, Jax, Tom.

[Peter Madrigal]

Let me tell you something that's so weird to me. Okay?

[Tom Schwartz]

So, you know, they were like, you're really close friends too. What, do the lights get blurred as a manager when you're that close with your.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes, they do a little bit. Like, here's the thing. Like, Jax, he was a very, very good worker.

[Tom Schwartz]

He actually, Jax is a hustler.

[Peter Madrigal]

Jax was a very good worker. Terrible bartender, Very good worker. So.

[Tom Schwartz]

And a charmer.

[Peter Madrigal]

I remember.

[Tom Schwartz]

I think his. Sorry, you guys, we're talking about, like.

[Peter Madrigal]

Listen, OG this is pre show.

[Tom Schwartz]

Jax was very charming as a bartender. If you asked him to make a mojito, he would say that we're out of limes and mint.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And I respect that.

[Peter Madrigal]

So one time I was late for a. A lunch shift and he started the music and helped because I text him. I was like, I'm going to be late. And so he. He put the music on and got everything ready for me. It was awesome. You know what I mean? He couldn't make a drink, but he got everything ready. He got everything prepped.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, guess who taught me how to bartend.

[Peter Madrigal]

You know how to bartend?

[Tom Schwartz]

Jax Taylor. Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

No. No way.

[Tom Schwartz]

Tom Sandoval and Jax Taylor taught me how to bartend. Zach, come over here real quick.

[Peter Madrigal]

So let me tell you something. So Jax was a great employee, but terrible bartender. Tom Sandoval, great. Both great bartender, terrible employee.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can you expound?

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, I'll tell you. Oh, okay. So I'd be. I would be managing. I would be managing. And Tom Sandoval wouldn't show up for, like, you know, it takes a lot to pre. To open a bar, and I'd have to open the bar for him. And then I opened the doors, and he still wasn't here about 20 minutes later. And then he finally showed up. I was like, oh, here you go, Tom. It's all set and ready for you.

[Tom Schwartz]

But he would show up looking good and do a good job and overcompensate. That was his thing. Once he showed up, he did a good job.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, exactly. So if you merge Tom and Jax together, they form the best bartender. There you go.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, that's actually one of the funniest things. That's a great observation, Jackson.

[Peter Madrigal]

Tom Sandoval together. Guess what? Perfect bartender arrives on time, does their due diligence, and knows how to make a cocktail.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes, Jax, not the best bartender, but very charming. He is prompt as a motherfucker.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Jax is never late. And he's one of the. But people don't know this about Jax, but he's also very tidy. He's ocd. If you go into his house, his condo, everything is in perfect order. There's no. There's not a speck of dust on the floor. Floor. He's OCD people. Don't they. You wouldn't know.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I know. I know he is.

[Tom Schwartz]

And Tom. Tom's very cleanly too, but Tom's late to everything.

[Peter Madrigal]

Tell me something. Speaking of Tom Sandoval, do you still speak to Tom Sandoval?

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, he's on tour right now. I was gonna go meet him in Texas, actually. Yeah. Yeah, we took a break from each other for obvious reasons. And just to recap, it's like I'm.

[Peter Madrigal]

Taking a break from everybody on this thing.

[Tom Schwartz]

I know Peter. Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

I haven't talked to anybody except for you and Kristen.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, people. You know what? People ask me a lot. They're like, is Peter resentful because he was on the show more? And you know what I. You know what I say? Can I tell you?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

I say no. At least I say, I don't think so, because Peter, since I met him, has 30 projects going at once. And like, for real.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

You have your coals and a lot of fires, but we're gonna come back to that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

I want to say early days, sir, before we go to there, because I. I want to get.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm not resentful to anybody. I don't say, like, for instance, just as an example, recently, I had a little bit of a falling out with someone.

[Tom Schwartz]

Why are you looking at. With me?

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I didn't have a falling out with you. I had fallen out with someone else.

[Tom Schwartz]

You don't have to say it.

[Peter Madrigal]

You don't want me to say it.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's up to you, Peter, if you're comfortable with it. But I'm very comfortable.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm always comfortable.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's not the speed of my podcast.

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, all right, I'll keep it.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can you. Can you vaguely allude to who it is?

[Peter Madrigal]

I. Well, I won't vaguely. Well, I mean, like, if. If I say it, if I tell the story, everyone's going to know who it is.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's up to you.

[Peter Madrigal]

Made natural news. It did, yeah. Made a lot of news.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, I. I don't. I have no idea. I know. Now everyone who's listening wants to know.

[Peter Madrigal]

But you don't want me to say it. You want to keep it a PC baby.

[Tom Schwartz]

I. I have no idea.

[Peter Madrigal]

You don't know.

[Tom Schwartz]

Guys, since we're having a moment here, I have no idea what Peter's talking about. Can you just vaguely allude to who it is?

[Peter Madrigal]

So let's just. I can't vaguely allude to it because I don't know how to be vague. I'm just Very straight point. Okay, so we'll leave it there.

[Tom Schwartz]

But is it someone who was on the show?

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh. Is it a female or a male? Yeah, a male.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, female. Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Had she worked at SIR before?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Does her name rhyme with Ina? Hi. Hina.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

All right, we'll leave it at that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Leave it at that.

[Tom Schwartz]

I missed this whole thing, but we're not going to get into that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, yeah, there's. I can. You can. You can look it up. And there's article after article after article. I kept on getting like these. Let's just put it this way, she tried to call me out on something, and the. The.

[Tom Schwartz]

Just give them the old PR Answer, Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

PR Answer. I don't do pr. I don't know what that is.

[Tom Schwartz]

Well, I just say what's in your heart, then.

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, sounds good. So. So I tried to bring her on, on one of mine, because one of my shows that I have On. On reality network, which we're coming back. RealityNetwork TV.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter's.

[Peter Madrigal]

Go check it out.

[Tom Schwartz]

So many good shows.

[Peter Madrigal]

And she sent me to her manager, who sent me to her publicist, and I was very nice about it. I was like, okay, I'll email this person. I don't know who publicist is. And then a publicist just said, no, we're not interested. So I wanted to bring her on one of my shows to promote her stuff. And my show, you know, like, it's not the biggest thing, but, you know, what's the problem? It would be like you asking me to do something, and I send you to some random person who sent it to some random person and tells you no. Not cool in my book. I've known. I've known all y' all for years. Okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

You know, anyway, we have a deep bond.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, we do.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm serious, Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

We have you. You. Now it's down to you and Lisa and Kristen. That's it.

[Tom Schwartz]

Really?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah. I don't talk to anybody else, Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, I could get into all of it, because I don't have any. I don't have a filter. Well, Peter, because the reason why on the show that I had a filter is because, a, I was the manager.

[Tom Schwartz]

B, you have a certain. You have a certain order of, like, civility and decorum that you have to keep as the. Because you're the ambassador for this place.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tom Schwartz]

You can't pop off and just be like.

[Peter Madrigal]

Exactly. And I was also the manager of this place, so I was managing everybody. So I couldn't really take a side. None of them are under me now. So now I can talk, say whatever I want. Now I can express myself the way I always wanted to. So she said, you know, oh, send my manager who. Who sent me to a publicist who literally said, no. So me, I. I was on set filming bar brawl for bar brawl at the time, which is a bartender competition show. I saw the email on Petersburg network.

[Tom Schwartz]

But we'll come back to that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Come back to that at the end.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes. Hell, yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

I saw the email, and I was like, that's weird. Okay, cool. But what. What the real thing was, it had nothing to do with her being on my show. It had to do with her coming after the queen, the woman who none of us would be here without. Lisa Vanderpump. And when she did that, I was like, all right, gloves are off. I'm done. You do not come for the queen. I may be a bishop, but the queen and king for me as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to our public life is Lisa Vanderpump and Ken Todd.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah. I think she felt.

[Peter Madrigal]

She. I understand.

[Tom Schwartz]

To give her some empathy. I think Sheena felt some sympathy or entry. I think empath. I feel more sympathy because I. Yeah, there you go. You're right. But I, you know, she's one of my good friends, too. I think she felt some sort of. I don't. I don't know. I don't want to speak for Sheena.

[Peter Madrigal]

No matter whatever happens between me and Lisa, I will never publicly go against her. I love her, and if you don't, like.

[Tom Schwartz]

I still FaceTime her on a regular basis.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, yeah. I got. I got an interesting story for you. She. I got a story for you. Do I have a story for you. Okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

Well, she. A lot of the audience thinks that she's partial to the guys or she. Only.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, she's not.

[Tom Schwartz]

Not at all. She's harsh. She's my harshest critic.

[Peter Madrigal]

I think she's partial. She's my harshest critic, too. I think she's partial to loyalty. So my problem is, is that she went after Lisa. If you're going to go after Lisa and you're going to be like, oh, Lisa had nothing to do with it, why don't you get rid of all your following and start fresh and just build it up yourself without Lisa. That's the line you don't cross for me. Oh, so speaking of Lisa and FaceTiming. So I have a story for you. And you want to hear this story about a couple of weeks ago, you were in Houston, Texas.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, so I was in Greece for my birthday. I was shooting an episode of Outside the Rules.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can you tell them what that's about real quick?

[Peter Madrigal]

Huh?

[Tom Schwartz]

The audience. Can you tell them?

[Peter Madrigal]

So Outside the Rules is about my life outside of Vanderpump Rules.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, that's so on the nose. I thought it was gonna be such a different. Peter's never told me this.

[Peter Madrigal]

You don't know this? No. I'm shooting a TV show called Outside the Rules along with bar brawl. Outside the Rules is going to be on reality network.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

So Outside the Rules is my own. You know, I'm just like, you know, going and tasting wines and. And bartending and doing. Doing Peter. That's all it is, is Peter. Peter, like Peter, love Peter wants more of. So I was in Greece, right? I was in Greece, and I was filming an episode over there. I just got the episode, actually. Like, I just need to inject the Interviews and all that stuff. But I just got the episode of me in Greece. It was in Santorini, and I shot an oia, and I was on the dome where I wasn't supposed to be. I did something very, very bad. I have the pictures, too, so. And the video. So the last shot was south of Santorini, and it was right next door to this other spot that they were having a wedding at. Okay, so when you FaceTimed me, you met with some ladies that said, oh, he was at my wedding in Houston. Do you remember this? Yes. Okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes.

[Peter Madrigal]

And you said, you want to hear the story? So I'm telling you the story right now for all to hear.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, that's so sweet of you guys. You still with us?

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

Me and Peter, just. Sorry. We're dialing.

[Peter Madrigal]

We're dialoguing, baby.

[Tom Schwartz]

Just so you know.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, we're dialoguing.

[Tom Schwartz]

We've been friends for a long time, but we don't sit down and have long, informed conversation. So, Peter, you were saying one more time.

[Tom Sandoval]

There it is.

[Peter Madrigal]

You're saying, there it is. Harder. Give it to me harder, Tom.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, God. All right. You were saying, though, Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, so I was like, am I going to go to this wedding? So my wedding crashed, right? Summer, one of the. The. The maid of honor, she invited. She's like, oh, you're shooting right next door at this place called the Edge.

[Tom Schwartz]

And.

[Peter Madrigal]

And I shot the last scene, and it was a sunset. It was a sunset scene for this episode. And. And then I went directly from the Edge in Santorini to this other location where the wedding was happening, right? So then at the wedding, at the wedding reception, after we got done eating, we're at the bar, we're drinking, and then the bride, Isabella, and the. And Summer, the. The maid of honor come up to me, like, peter, can you get Lisa on the phone? And, you know, you're around the world, so it's like daytime over here. I was like, yeah, sure. Let me text her and I'll find out. So I text Lisa if I could get her on the FaceTime me. Next thing you know, we're taking a selfie with the. I'm taking a selfie with the bridesmaids and the. And the. And the bride. All of a sudden, Lisa Vanderpump appears on my cell phone, and they all start freaking out, and I say, answer it. So they do, and they're like, oh, my God, Lisa, I love you. I love you. She's like, oh, thank you. Thank you. Where's pizza? I was like, I'm here. Lisa, she's all like, why was it, am I invited to the wedding? I was like, I'm in Greece right now. Lisa, I don't know what to tell you. I would tell you to hop on a plane and get on over here, you know?

[Tom Schwartz]

Can I inject for one second?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, of course.

[Tom Schwartz]

I think some people think that Lisa is unapproachable or maybe somehow out of touch with the. She's one of the most grounded, loving, soulful humans on the planet.

[Peter Madrigal]

Absolutely right. She is approachable.

[Tom Schwartz]

Listen, maybe once in a while she's like, I don't feel like taking a picture, of course. Which she has to set a boundary once in a while. Ken does that. But like, she. She will hang out with you, look you in the eye, talk about life. She is. She's like our. Our LA mom, but yeah, she is our la.

[Peter Madrigal]

She is our LA mom, but back to. She's like our second mom. So. So Isabelle, the bride, gets on the camera, on my camera, on my phone, and I was like, all right, you get on there. I'm gonna take a screenshot of it. So you can have that and you can post it, right? Isabelle comes up to me later on, and she's all. And you met her in Houston. You met this woman in Houston. She's all like, oh, Peter came to my wedding. You met her. So she comes up and she's like, that was the best wedding present ever. It's like, you're welcome. You got. Was awesome. Isabelle, you're awesome. If you're listening to this amazing, amazing, amazing Peter 2000. Thank you for inviting me to your wedding, Peter, wedding crasher over here. And that's not the first time I've. That's like the fourth time I've wedding crashed.

[Tom Schwartz]

By the way, you should be so lucky. Peter crashes your wedding.

[Peter Madrigal]

Thank you, Tom.

[Tom Schwartz]

Although he's gonna have, like six buttons.

[Peter Madrigal]

Down his chest and I'm be drinking all your booze.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, how do you avoid burnout? So. So this is for everyone in the customer service industry, bar, restaurant, retail, everything. Peter. Well, first of all, there's no one else in the world who has experienced your unique experience as the gm, the manager of one of the. One of the. First of all, one of my favorite spots in the world.

[Peter Madrigal]

But, Peter, favorite spot. You're gonna say favorite spot or second favorite spot?

[Tom Schwartz]

No, favorite. Well, okay, TomTom's my favorite.

[Peter Madrigal]

There it is.

[Tom Schwartz]

But, Peter, people come from all over the world here. It's primarily driven by. By fans. I talked to Logan earlier about this it's such a unique experience. Bye, Mikey.

[Peter Madrigal]

Bye, Mike.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, it's a. How do you avoid burnout, mental fatigue? Because I know Peter before. All right, let me. One more thing, you guys. I have a theory that Guillermo and Peter have the world record for the most selfies ever taken in history.

[Peter Madrigal]

Peter, you could be right about that.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, you've cut back a little bit, but you're still in here all the time. But you used to work five days a week.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

And how many selfies this is. There's no ego here.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't know.

[Tom Schwartz]

Let's just say.

[Peter Madrigal]

People always ask me that question, Tom. How many selfies do I take a night? And I have no idea.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, let's just say you take on average. Let's just say you take on average, 20 selfies a night. You work 55 days a week.

[Peter Madrigal]

That's lowball. Yeah, that's low ball.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's 100.

[Peter Madrigal]

That's way lowball.

[Tom Schwartz]

There's 52 weeks in a year. That's 52. Minimum. 5200 selfies a year.

[Peter Madrigal]

Okay, so how many is that for the show?

[Tom Schwartz]

It's been on 12 years.

[Peter Madrigal]

12 years. No longer than that. So 2012 till now is how many years? 13 years. So multiply that by 13.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, you've taken 60. Roughly 67,000.

[Peter Madrigal]

Jesus mercy.

[Tom Schwartz]

600 selfies. That's a minimum.

[Peter Madrigal]

That's a lot of selfies.

[Tom Schwartz]

But, Peter, how do you. How do you avoid being jaded or salty or impatient?

[Peter Madrigal]

You know what? It's not in my DNA. I'm not jaded, I'm not salty, and I'm not impatient.

[Tom Schwartz]

But nights where you're like, I gotta leave. I gotta get out of here.

[Peter Madrigal]

Well, I mean, there's been those nights, but those nights were like, you know, like. It's just like me dealing with servers. No, I never. I never really get there. You know, I. I'm always grateful for what I have. You know what I mean?

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, I will say this. I said the same thing to Logan. I've never seen you impatient, flustered or frustrated at sir.

[Peter Madrigal]

Because I have a lot of testosterone, baby.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, that's the most Peter answer ever. No, but, Peter, I want to say this is a testament to your stoicism. You rarely get. I know. You get tired, and sometimes it's natural.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm a human being. I'm not Superman. I wish I was.

[Tom Schwartz]

But you could be.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm not. Jesus Christ. There you go.

[Tom Schwartz]

But he could be.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I can't.

[Logan Cochrane]

Okay.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sorry, guys. No, but, Peter. Peter, you're in a very unique environment. This is nothing like any other restaurant in the world.

[Peter Madrigal]

No.

[Tom Schwartz]

And it could be so easy to get jaded or bitter or just be like, I cannot handle this anymore because you're hyper socializing and there's a parasocial relationship and people feel like they know you, which I experienced at TomTom. But I, I'm fortunate enough to have. I, I don't mind, but once in a while you're like, I'm gonna snap. Do you ever feel like you're in a snap?

[Peter Madrigal]

I've never snapped before.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, I've never seen you snap.

[Peter Madrigal]

No. I'm very calm, very, very cool, very collected.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter also on vacation, so they're drinking a little more than usual and they're a little tipsy. And when I'm a little tipsy, I'm a little obnoxious sometimes. So, like, this is a testament to your, your, I guess, commitment to just being a great representative ambassador for West Hollywood. Sir, Vanderpump Rules. Like, have you ever been, have you ever broke and be like, I can't do this anymore?

[Peter Madrigal]

Well, here's the thing. I'm very, very insanely grateful for everything that I, that I've accomplished. But the thing is, is that without this restaurant. Hey, guys, how's it going?

[Tom Schwartz]

What's up, guys?

[Peter Madrigal]

Great. Without Sir, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.

[Tom Schwartz]

I would not.

[Peter Madrigal]

Without being on tv, without being on the show Vanderpump Rules.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm hyper aware of this. There was a butterfly effect. Even with TomTom, even with Schwarz and Sandies, there was.

[Peter Madrigal]

Would I change some things? Maybe, yeah, here and there, little things here and there. But for the most part, I am insanely grateful, I think, for everything that.

[Tom Schwartz]

Some people come to me, like I told you earlier, like, is Peter bitter? I'm like, no, he's not. Peter Magal is not. Dude. He's got 15 things going, going on at once. You don't have time to be bitter.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't. I. Why would I be bitter? I'm. I'm living a great life.

[Tom Schwartz]

Because they think that you weren't featured on the show enough. That. And I'm like, no, Peter has a.

[Peter Madrigal]

Million things that doesn't make sense to me. Why would anyone think that I'm bitter? Because I have a coin coming out next month.

[Tom Schwartz]

Boy, Haktua, that's a joke.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I have a reputation. Haktu was just spit on that thing. I have a reputation to keep up, baby.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

I have built a reputation for 15 years, 12 years. Thirteen years. Okay. All right.

[Tom Schwartz]

You really have.

[Peter Madrigal]

But 15 years as a restaurant manager. I have a reputation. I've been on television for a long time. I have. I've owned companies. Why the hell, like, no, no, I have a reputation. So, yeah, I have a coin coming out. It's a utility coin. It's not a meme coin. That's a big difference too. And yeah, let's say that again.

[Tom Schwartz]

Utility.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, it's utility. Not meme. I'm not a meme. I am part of nightlife. And you all are going to be appreciative of what I about to come out with. It's going to be phenomenal.

[Tom Schwartz]

Do you want to talk about. Or should we come back to that.

[Peter Madrigal]

So I can talk about right now? So I have. I have a coin coming out in October. We start pre sale, I think October 2nd or 3rd. When you're hearing this, I don't know when you're coming out with this particular. Particular podcast, Tom.

[Tom Schwartz]

Tuesdays.

[Peter Madrigal]

Tuesdays. Okay. So you're gonna come out with this before I launch. I'm not giving you the name or anything because I'm going to announce that on my socials. So be paying attention to my socials because I'm gonna be announcing this coin coming out, and it's going to be utilized for a number of things and it's going to be freaking amazing. I don't know if I can say the f word on your podcast. It's. It's gonna be amazing. You. You wanted to keep it PC.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, no, no, it's okay. Let's lean into it. Not just that, but we. Can we talk about the reality TV network, too?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, we'll talk about that right now, too. But first off, yeah, my coin comes out next month. I know everyone's all like, oh, Hawk, two of this. And I have an actual. Like, that would never happen for me. I just want to, like, build something. I want to build something else. I've built. I built a few different companies. I remember telling you about celebrity slots all the way back in 2019.

[Tom Schwartz]

So can you tell the audience just real quick? This is where we got Peter. Like Peter want Peter.

[Peter Madrigal]

Like Peter love Peter wants more of.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's when you hit the jackpot.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, that is literally how you hit the jackpot.

[Tom Schwartz]

So it was a digital casino. And when.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, yeah. So it started off as Peter Riffic slots. And all the best ideas come. Come when you're eating food. So I was eating food. I was eating a burrito, a breakfast burrito with my Buddy Chandler, who's out in Shout out to Chandler Rapson who's out in Florida. And I was giving him a ride back and we wanted to get breakfast. I was giving him a ride to the airport and he's like, you know what, Peter? You're all the, you're at sir all the time. You're always taking all these pictures. You should tell them to start downloading a picture frame. I was like, that's an interesting idea. Cool. Maybe, you know, as an app, you know, it'd be cool. And the next thing you know, he calls me up the next day. We're gonna make a casino out of you. That's all like, yes, yes, let's do it. It's a slot machine. And, and we're gonna need your voiceover and all your, all your characteristics. You like tequila, you like wine, you like wearing. Wearing suits. All those are gonna be on your, on your real. The, the, the. The rolls for the, for the. And then you like dressing like a pirate, so that's all it's gonna be on there. So I still have all those pictures from when I, when I did the Peter Rific slots. And then we moved that I was the guinea pig for this company and I owned the company. A part of the company. I owned the company. And then we moved that from Peterific slots to celebrity slots. So I was a guinea pig for it. And then we, and then we had food. God. We had Natalie Vermari. We had a bunch of people on the, on the celebrity slots.

[Tom Schwartz]

I remember.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, I know you do. It came out the night that we had the, the, the, the party. The last party for season eight.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah.

[Peter Madrigal]

Of Vanderpump Rules in 2019 at. @ TomTom. And I remember telling everybody, download my game right now. Download my game right now.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, I want to know how do you. I asked you this already. How do you avoid burnout?

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't have burnout.

[Tom Schwartz]

Told me that you, you work out, you treat yourself, you, you yoga, you get massages.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't get massages.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, you treat. You take care of yourself though.

[Peter Madrigal]

I do actually. I'm very scheduled. I'm very regimented. I wake up like 5:30, 6:00 clock every morning. And you know what's funny is that someone here at Sir. I'll say the name. Natalie. So Natalie, I got her the job here as a bartender.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, you mean Natalie's Guillermo?

[Peter Madrigal]

No, no, Natalie the bartender now.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, gotcha.

[Peter Madrigal]

I got her the job here as a bartender and she's now she's going to be on is she's going to be on the show. And she. She joked to me one time, she's all like, what time do you wake up, Peter? I was like, well, I wake up at 5, 5:30, 6 o'.

[Tom Schwartz]

Clock.

[Peter Madrigal]

She's like, oh, you're getting old. I was like, I've been getting up at five o' clock since I was in high school. It's like ingrained in my body to wake up at that point in time. I always took early classes in high school and I took early classes in college at usc. Yeah, yeah. So. So my body was already ingrained to that. So I've been getting up at six o' clock in the morning since the age of 14. And before that, I don't remember because, you know, your brain doesn't. I don't, you know, keep that information. It's wired somewhere over there.

[Tom Schwartz]

You've been grinding since you were born, Essentially.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter. You have that energy.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

But I know we're all fallible.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, sorry, I didn't mean to apply. You do. But has there ever been a moment you're like, you know what? I'm done with Sarah. I need to leave right now.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I mean, like, we. We have. I mean, I'm just, you know, right now. It is what, Like, I'm. I am. I am doing my own thing at this point in time. But, you know, whatever. I'm still here. I'm still on the schedule. I'm still going.

[Tom Schwartz]

You're kind of the energizer.

[Peter Madrigal]

There he is. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait in.

[Peter Madrigal]

Hold on a second. Just showed up.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm just going to hand the mic.

[Peter Madrigal]

To G. Oh, my God, you guys are here. I'm walking into the famous S Alley. What? I found. I found two icons. Okay. Two friends. I mean, you're the icon. You're the icon. What a. Nice to see you guys. I'm going to let you continue with your business. You look like it's a nice conversation here. I'm going to bring some T tacos and some chips and guacamole. I think it's a. It's good. All right. Love it.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, you got to come back out. You got to come back out.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay. All right.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay.

[Peter Madrigal]

Have fun.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sorry, guys. I'm taking a selfie. Sorry, guys. I know it's audio only. Stick with us. Stick with us.

[Peter Madrigal]

There it is. Yeah, you're welcome. What's your name? Georgia. How are you, Georgia?

[Tom Schwartz]

You want to. Want to say hi? This is Georgia.

[Peter Madrigal]

Guys, what's your name?

[Tom Schwartz]

We're in the back alley, sir.

[Peter Madrigal]

Michael. How are you, Michael? Hello, everyone.

[Tom Schwartz]

Where are you? Where are you from? What are you doing?

[Logan Cochrane]

San Diego.

[Peter Madrigal]

I broke my ankle recently and he took Vanderpump in like the whole eight months. Or not eight months. Oh, my gosh. She binge. She's another binge watcher. I love it. And we're. We're going to dinner over here. And I was like, we're close to. Sir, like, can we just see the back alley? Because this is historical. Wait, you're not going to go in and get a drink? We are. We have to. Yeah, you do. We have to get goat cheese balls. Yes, those are. Tom.

[Tom Schwartz]

Are far superior.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, they're not. No, they're not.

[Tom Schwartz]

Joking, joking.

[Logan Cochrane]

I wonder if Peter Silver there.

[Peter Madrigal]

And here I am. What's up? I'm Michael.

[Tom Schwartz]

Fondest memory of Vanderpump rules.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, my God.

[Tom Schwartz]

We most iconic quote.

[Logan Cochrane]

Most iconic quote.

[Peter Madrigal]

Has to be be Stassy clocking everyone.

[Logan Cochrane]

Jack.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sociopath. Tom Sandoval, narcissist. No, no, no. Come on, come on. The most iconic quote is Stassy Schroeder saying it's my birthday. I really like the first season in Vegas when Tom Schwartz dumps a little.

[Tom Schwartz]

Beer on his head. No, I never. They're saying something.

[Peter Madrigal]

Hand them the.

[Tom Schwartz]

I was looking for a quote.

[Peter Madrigal]

No. How about. How about this one?

[Tom Schwartz]

How about this one?

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't know if you recognize this quote. I don't know what I did. It's. I don't know.

[Tom Schwartz]

I am the devil. And don't you forget.

[Peter Madrigal]

Or. Or Peter. I'm babysitting adults.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's Peter's every night ad.

[Peter Madrigal]

That's my day. Every day. It's like adult. No, no. My line was it's adult babysitting.

[Logan Cochrane]

I mean, fair.

[Peter Madrigal]

That was me every night. Adult adventures in adult babysitting. To this day.

[Tom Schwartz]

It is Peter. Yeah, it's okay. Okay.

[Peter Madrigal]

Thank you guys.

[Tom Schwartz]

So nice. Peter. Peter. So on some level, as a manager, you are a babysitter. Oh, are you not, Peter? Because I. I talked to Logan for a long time. It's like. So people text you first thing when they. They're sick, they're hungover, they've fallen out of love with their significant other.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, my God.

[Tom Schwartz]

They got cheated on. Their dog died, their mom died. By the way, these are all very valid things.

[Peter Madrigal]

But I know what, because you have.

[Tom Schwartz]

A great deal of empathy. You have a big heart.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sympathy.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, empathy.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sympathy.

[Tom Schwartz]

You don't have empathy.

[Peter Madrigal]

I right Maybe.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, Peter. No, but. No, but, Peter, Peter, I'm sorry. You do have a big heart. You do.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah. Speaking of hearts.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, no, no.

[Peter Madrigal]

What happened with you and Lala? Okay, Peter is getting.

[Tom Schwartz]

Going off the rails. As a manager, what do you do when someone calls in and you're short staff and they say, listen, I just threw up.

[Peter Madrigal]

You want to know what I do? What do you take the night off. I'll take your section. I'll make sure it gets done.

[Tom Schwartz]

Bought a big butt.

[Peter Madrigal]

Boom. Okay, that's my.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's what happened.

[Peter Madrigal]

What was that? Was that a.

[Logan Cochrane]

Was that a thing?

[Tom Schwartz]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Peter Madrigal]

Everyone was saying that you were dating Lala.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, yes. So the Internet.

[Peter Madrigal]

So there it is. See?

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, yeah. So, Peter. So someone used AI to create an article. And I did a whole.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, my God, this AI garbage.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's on pot. It's on Facebook.

[Peter Madrigal]

Facebook.

[Tom Schwartz]

They did a whole AI thing. And my. Every single person I know sent me that article. I was like, you're dating Lala. You're dating Lala? And I was like, I. I haven't talked to Lala in three months, even though she's one of my good friends. And.

[Peter Madrigal]

And no, I'm getting convers. I'm getting confirmation right now. It's all AI. Dude, it was all AI.

[Tom Schwartz]

So it's all AI. It was all on Facebook. And what a weird thing.

[Peter Madrigal]

What a weird experience, right? So we.

[Tom Schwartz]

So, by the way, Peter, I did a podcast with her and she had no idea. And I read it to her and she laughed so hard she almost threw up. Peter. All right, I gotta. Can you hear me?

[Peter Madrigal]

I can hear you. I can hear you.

[Tom Schwartz]

Great.

[Peter Madrigal]

I want to know I have superior hearing. Everyone, with respect. I have hearing aids.

[Tom Schwartz]

Peter, with respect to the business, can we talk about some of the craziest stories that have happened in sir?

[Peter Madrigal]

Craziest stories that have happened in sir Talking about.

[Tom Schwartz]

About Jax in the back.

[Peter Madrigal]

Suck a dick, Diana. Suck a dick. That was a crazy story.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, I'm talking about.

[Peter Madrigal]

I love you, Kristen.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm talking patrons.

[Peter Madrigal]

Patrons.

[Tom Schwartz]

Like at Tom. Tom. I've seen some crazy stuff. Things we get.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, no, we've had some patrons come in and be like, not wanting to pay because they just try to walk out and then we had to catch them or whatever. That's happened before. But nothing really crazy. I mean, like, just, you know, I. It's just stuff you deal with on a constant basis. But running a business. Yeah, does that make sense?

[Tom Schwartz]

Running a business in which People are consuming alcohol and not even.

[Peter Madrigal]

Not even alcohol.

[Tom Schwartz]

They're eating, they're drinking, they're on vacation. They're having a good time. You give them a lot of grace, right?

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes. A lot of fun.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh, here comes the legend right now. Oh, God.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh.

[Tom Schwartz]

Oh.

[Peter Madrigal]

Hello. How's it going?

[Tom Schwartz]

Guillermo's coming back out. Peter, wait. We got. We got to talk about your new projects.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have to. Hi, there. How's it going? Yeah, Schwartz. Right here.

[Tom Schwartz]

Hey, guys. Hey. Sorry. Come over. Come over. Say hi.

[Peter Madrigal]

What's your name? Stephanie. Stephanie.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yes. Do you want to say how are you?

[Peter Madrigal]

Hi. Connor. Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

And he's from. He's my son.

[Peter Madrigal]

You're in the military? I was. I just got out, actually, Recently. In the military. What branch of the military are you in? Force.

[Tom Schwartz]

Air Force.

[Peter Madrigal]

Air Force. Air Force.

[Tom Schwartz]

By the way, what's your name?

[Peter Madrigal]

Thank you for your service.

[Tom Schwartz]

Huh? Connor. Connor.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm talking for your service. Connor, recently.

[Tom Schwartz]

Thank you for your service. I recently threw out the first pitch at the Boston game, and you guys crushed. Yeah, it was Tamra.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, Tampa Bay. Tamara. Wait, what were you saying about Tamara?

[Tom Schwartz]

I was about to start naming the housewives I was with. Oh, God. All right.

[Peter Madrigal]

Want to say.

[Tom Schwartz]

Do you want to say anything? Who am I talking to? We're doing a little. We're doing a little retrospective on Vanderpump rules in the back alley of sir.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes, we are iconic back alley of sir and we're doing a retrospective with Tom Schwarz on the Peter Podcast.

[Tom Schwartz]

This is the Peter podcast.

[Peter Madrigal]

I'm literally taking it over.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, this is.

[Peter Madrigal]

It is Detox. I'm just being. I'm just being facetious.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can we talk? Favorite moment? Vanderpump rules.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

I like the part where it's. I don't know.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't know. What's the line? What I did to you.

[Tom Schwartz]

I don't know what I did to.

[Peter Madrigal]

You, but I'll take a p. But.

[Logan Cochrane]

I'll take a Pinot Grigio.

[Tom Schwartz]

I honestly have no idea.

[Peter Madrigal]

You don't know what a Vanderpump is? No.

[Tom Schwartz]

My mom's a huge fan, but that's.

[Peter Madrigal]

Why I came out.

[Tom Schwartz]

And you know what? It's not about the pasta. She was making me want. It's not about the pasta.

[Peter Madrigal]

It's not about the pasta.

[Tom Schwartz]

Apparently, by the way, pasta is not code for cocaine.

[Peter Madrigal]

It's not.

[Tom Schwartz]

Thank you.

[Peter Madrigal]

It's just. Okay, so I was there, and Rachel was. Raquel. Whatever her name is.

[Tom Schwartz]

Whatever it is.

[Peter Madrigal]

She was eating pasta and then he started eating pasta. Her pasta. And they. They started arguing, and then she started talking about her pasta. And he's like, it's not about the pasta. Because they were. They were. They were eating pasta. His podcast he had me on as a guest. I was being facetious.

[Tom Schwartz]

Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. You guys gonna do a picture?

[Peter Madrigal]

Let's take a picture.

[Tom Schwartz]

All right, we're gonna pause. It's so nice to meet you guys. Go Boston. I had my first Boston cream pie not long ago. It was awesome. It's the best. Forget about it. Not yet.

[Peter Madrigal]

I don't eat Dunkin Donuts, but I.

[Tom Schwartz]

Can quote great lines from Good Will Hunting. Son of a bitch. He stole my line.

[Peter Madrigal]

How about them apples?

[Tom Schwartz]

All right, we're gonna come inside, we're gonna buy you guys a drink. I'm gonna come back up there. I'm serious.

[Peter Madrigal]

Trader Peter.

[Tom Schwartz]

What's the best Trader Peter you've never been to sir? What's your favorite drink?

[Peter Madrigal]

Wait, I've never been to sir? What you talking about?

[Tom Schwartz]

Hypothetically.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, hypothetically. Yes.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm going to ask you again.

[Peter Madrigal]

The Greenfield. The.

[Tom Schwartz]

Is that.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, it's a. It's like a cucumber margarita, but with sage. Peter, like Peter Love Peter, wants more of Peter Best.

[Tom Schwartz]

What's your favorite meal at sir?

[Peter Madrigal]

Favorite meal at sir? The skirt steak with the french fries. The. The potato.

[Tom Schwartz]

What does Lisa gets?

[Peter Madrigal]

It depends on her mood. Yeah. Or. Or. Or if she's taking a shot with me, she gets a tequila shot.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's rare to get shot. Rare?

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, no, no, no. It's not rare. It's rare. When she comes in, she takes a shot with me.

[Tom Schwartz]

Well, cuz you earn that. You have to earn that.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I remember once I was having a dry month, and then Ken was all like, wait, you're not drinking with me. And he goes and tells Lisa. Lisa's all like, I'll take a shot with him. So I was like, okay, fine. I'm taking a shot with you, Lisa. So I get her a tequila, and then I have a tequila, and then. And then she takes it with me. Yeah, Peter, sounds good.

[Tom Schwartz]

See you guys in there.

[Peter Madrigal]

Yeah, of course. Absolutely.

[Tom Schwartz]

See you, bro. Peter, what's. What's Lisa's go to?

[Peter Madrigal]

Lisa does Lisa's go to is a. Is a big pinky or a rose.

[Tom Schwartz]

And what's Ken's A peroni.

[Peter Madrigal]

Ken is a gin on the rocks.

[Tom Schwartz]

Rarely a gin on the rocks box.

[Peter Madrigal]

Oh, no, we've taken. We've taken shots before him And I. Oh, yeah.

[Tom Schwartz]

And you're go to again. I know we talked about.

[Peter Madrigal]

Tequila. Tequila. More tequila.

[Tom Schwartz]

No, your meal, your meal, your meal.

[Peter Madrigal]

But my meal. Squirt steak or. I love the salmon here, too. The salmon is phenomenal.

[Tom Schwartz]

So, guys, when I come here, I get the salmon. It has no skin on it. I get. I get potatoes, and I get broccoli. I will say it's my favorite meal here. The goat cheese balls are better at Tom Tom.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, they're not.

[Tom Schwartz]

True or false?

[Peter Madrigal]

No, we have the OG baby. OG over here. Hello. How are y' all doing?

[Tom Schwartz]

Shake eyes.

[Peter Madrigal]

All right, I'm gonna say hi.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait, say hi. All right. There's a lot of people right now. Sorry, guys. Hey, guys, what's your name? You want to say hi?

[Peter Madrigal]

Hi. Lane.

[Tom Schwartz]

I'm Katie. Yes, Lane. Katie. Wait, that's my ex wife's name.

[Peter Madrigal]

I know, I know, I know.

[Tom Schwartz]

I love you.

[Peter Madrigal]

You're Katie.

[Tom Schwartz]

Wait, where are you from? What are you doing?

[Peter Madrigal]

I live in Redondo beach, but I'm from Northern California, but she's visiting, so we came here. Nevada. Reno, Nevada.

[Tom Schwartz]

They say. They say everything's bigger in Reno.

[Peter Madrigal]

Is it true or.

[Tom Schwartz]

That's Texas.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, the biggest little city in the world's better. Bigger. No, everything's bigger in Texas.

[Tom Schwartz]

Okay, Peter's being creepy now.

[Peter Madrigal]

No, I'm not. I'm just standing up.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sorry. No, you guys doing. We don't.

[Peter Madrigal]

We're doing his podcast. It's Flexes and Mexes over here on Sorry, guys. This Tom Schwartz's podcast.

[Tom Schwartz]

Sorry, we are not in depth conversation.

[Peter Madrigal]

Sorry. You are.

[Tom Schwartz]

Thank you so much. Thank you guys. Okay.

[Tom Sandoval]

If you made it this far, thank you. That was a little off the rails. I just want to say thank you to Peter, to Logan, all the employees at Sir Tom, Tom, you guys, they have stories and I respect their boundaries. I don't think they want to divulge some of the crazier ones out of respect for the owners. Guillermo, lvp, Ken, the whole squad. I love West Hollywood, and I'm just. For better or for worse, I feel like I'm always going to be a part of this industry. It's shaped me into the person I am today. TomTom, Sir Schwartz and Sandys. I don't think I changed a thing. I mean, I'd change a lot of things, but yeah, you guys, I see you chefs, cooks, barbacks, hosts, hostesses, servers. All you guys. I see you vendors. I feel you.

[Tom Schwartz]

My heart is with you.

[Tom Sandoval]

I cannot wait to grab a beer with you. A cold One post shift. You know what I'm talking about. Maybe we'll hit IHOP afterwards. The Sizzler, but I see you. I love you.

[Tom Schwartz]

I appreciate you.

[Tom Sandoval]

You're gonna be okay. I know it's tough. We love it.

[Tom Schwartz]

We hate it.

[Tom Sandoval]

Are we masochistic? Maybe a little bit. We keep coming back for more, though.

[Tom Schwartz]

It's the best, worst job ever.

[Tom Sandoval]

You know what I'm talking about? But thanks, guys. I sure love Sir. I have so many great memories there. Just so many firsts. That back alley. If those walls could talk, that alley could talk. My God, I've seen depraved things out there. I won't even go into it. I want to, but I can't just. Let's just say sex, drugs and rock and roll. A lot of crazy things back there, but yeah, man. Thank you guys for your support. Hope at any point, I didn't sound like I'm not grateful for your patronage. Is that even a word? No. But your support, I truly. Sometimes, you know, we're a little facetious. We sound like we're bitter. But no, we love you. I'm so grateful for everyone who comes in. Everyone has ever came to Tom, Tom Schwartz and Sammy. Sir. Everyone who's left a negative review. You're lame. You have no idea what it takes to start a small business, to open a restaurant. But it's okay if it makes you feel better. Anyways, shout out to all the bars and restaurants, all the small business owners out there. I see you. I'm going to come support you and go support your local bars and restaurants, your mom and pops, even your chains. I love Chili's. I love applebee's. I love T.G.I. fridays and Woodbury. This has been fun.

[Tom Schwartz]

A little chaotic.

[Tom Sandoval]

And remember, we're just getting started. Lots of cool stuff planned for the podcast. And, yes, I'll be doing video soon. I know it's a process, but I love you guys. Seriously. It's been so fun so far. Thanks for the support. Like, I feel like we're in this together. It's gonna be fun. We're gonna do some live streams down the road. Detox, Retox. We're keeping it together so we can fall apart. We're in the pursuit of happiness, Harmony. We're living, we're laughing, we're loving. All right, till next time. Love you guys.

[Tom Schwartz]

Retoxification complete.